Senate Standing Committee on Agriculture
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
You okay? The Senate Committee on Agriculture will come to order today for individuals wishing to provide public comment. Today's participant number is 1877-226-8216 and the access code is 135-0862. Today we have nine bills on today's agenda. We have AB 1042 and AB 1141 that was pulled from today's agenda at the request of the authors before. We don't have a quorum at the moment, so we'll go ahead and start as a Subcommittee hearing. And we do have one author here to present a Bill, and that's agenda item number two, AB 408. Assemblymember Wilson, please come on up.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Good afternoon. Thank you. Madam Chair. And Senator, good to see you. Thank you. I'm presenting AB 408 our Climate-Resilient Farms Sustainable, Healthy Food Access and Farm Worker Protection Bond Act of 2024. California's food and farming system is on the front lines of this climate crisis, and if the state wants to create a more climate resilient agriculture sector, then it must act now to scale up investments.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
AB 408 proposes 3.4 billion in bond funding to support four pillars of our food system climate spart, agriculture, farm workers, wellbeing healthy food access, and regional food infrastructure. Advancing climate spart agricultural practices not only help farmers, fishers and ranchers, these practices also bring of co benefits such as supporting biodiversity, improved air, water quality, and support for local jobs and economic development.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
This is especially important because we also know that the pandemic, recent flood impacts and ongoing supply chain challenges are affecting farmers, farm workers and agriculture productivity. It is time that we secure the necessary resources and invest in the people who feed us and avoid displacing small scale farms, farmers of color, and farm workers to other states and other countries. We also must invest in food access and ensuring that our communities have the facilities they need to bring food from the farm to the table.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
This includes school kitchen facilities that can be used to teach kids about nutrition and infrastructure to deliver meals to seniors and other populations with high rates of food insecurity. With this proposed bond, the state has an opportunity to scale this work up across our state and ensure California's food and farming system is ready, resilient, and helping our state fight climate change while also continuing to feed our communities. I would now like to introduce my witnesses. I have two of them here with me today. Andy Naja-Riese, Executive Director, Agriculture Institute of Marin, and Christine Gemperle, based in Ceres, California.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
Thank you, Chair Hurtado and Committee Members, for the opportunity to speak in support of AB 408. I'm Andy Naja-Riese, the CEO of the Agricultural Institute of Marin and one of the co sponsors of AB 408 as part of the Food and Farm Resilience Coalition. The AG Institute of Marin is a Bay Area nonprofit that operates nine certified farmers markets, food access, education and training programs, serving over 2 million people annually.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
While we're rooted in the Bay Area we represent a network of over 400 small to midsize farmers, ranchers and food makers from 44 California counties. And our network spans California's bioregions, including family farmers growing avocados in San Diego and Imperial counties strawberries from the central coast stone fruit and row crops grown in Tulare County in the Central Valley apples and berries from Placer and El Dorado counties and North Bay dairy farmers and ranchers.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
Our long term goal is to preserve and expand small scale farming and food production as a way of life. Small family farmers who make up more than 80% of California farmers struggle to compete in agricultural industries. And these challenges are more common among Black, indigenous, Latino, Japanese, Mung and Laotian farmers, along with women and immigrants due to long standing discrimination.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
I'm really inspired by Ms. Wilson's leadership and the work of our coalition to solve the interrelated problems of the climate crisis, food insecurity, health risks among frontline workers and lack of infrastructure to connect the land and sea to our communities and kitchen tables. Why do we need this? Well, California feeds the nation, yet a quarter of our own households go to bed hungry at night. Access to healthy local food should be a human right, not a privilege.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
Food and nutrition insecurity have increased during the COVID-19 Pandemic due to increasing levels of unemployment, poverty and limited access to food in schools and senior centers. And we see this at our own farmers markets where we serve over 47,000 shoppers who purchase foods with CalFresh and market match benefits and thousands of older adults annually. We saw a 31% increase in CalFresh redemptions at our farmers markets and across income levels. The demand for local healthy foods continues to grow.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
For instance, early on in the pandemic, the Eritrean Society of Oakland turned to us for support to aggregate fresh food grown locally when their local food bank was overwhelmed with high demands and packaged foods were unhealthy. Our farmers and ranchers are struggling too. A recent survey of our producers found that this past winter storms hit our producers really hard. More than 75% missed market days, with a quarter experiencing property damage and 40% losing inventory.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
The majority of our producers rely on the markets and other local sales outlets to make their living AB. 408 project examples include infrastructure for markets, school kitchen facilities, food banks, senior nutrition centers, urban agriculture and facilities for food production, processing and distribution that will help to shorten the distance from farm and sea to table. At least 50% of funds would be allocated to projects that benefit socially disadvantaged producers, farmers and ranchers, tribal producers, disadvantaged communities and vulnerable populations. We can build a more resilient local food and farming system. Thank you for your time and consideration today and I urge you to vote aye on this important legislation.
- Christine Gemperle
Person
Thank you. Hello. My name is Christine Gemperle of Gemperle Orchards and We Farm. My brother and I farm 135 acres of almonds in Stanislaus and Merced County. We work this land ourselves with no employees and as little contract labor that we can get away with during redevelopment. Let's see. So we are also a constituent of Senator Alvarado Gill. Today, I'm here speaking in strong support of AB 408 as a pathway to improving resilience of agricultural operations, increasing equity, and access to healthy food.
- Christine Gemperle
Person
So I have the wrong piece of paper, but what I'm going to in front of me so, very importantly, it is so hard to get access to farm equipment. Everything is so expensive these days, and the unit profit per acre is so Low. We have issues with actually accessing the equipment we need to do the sustainable practices that we want to do, things like cover cropping, compost, spreading.
- Christine Gemperle
Person
This is equipment that we actually absolutely need to do this, and yet we can't afford it because the prices are so expensive. For an example, we had to pay for a job that cost us $8,000, but because we were unable to do it, it would have cost us $250 in diesel. So these are family farms. We're small. We're unable to access this. If you could vote on this, that would be wonderful because it would help out a lot.
- Christine Gemperle
Person
And actually, it's about farming into the future as well. These multigenerational farms, we don't want to see them consolidated and disappear. Thank you. You're welcome.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Having heard from all witnesses in support, are there any additional witnesses here to express their support on this measure? Please state your name and organization.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hi. Priscilla Kidos, here on behalf of Staff Waste, in support.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Gracyna Mohabir on behalf of Californians Against Waste, in support.
- Kathleen Mossburg
Person
Kathy Mossburg, on behalf of Roots of Change, in support.
- Melissa Sagun
Person
Melissa Sagun, on behalf of the Pesticide Action Network, and Californians for Pesticide Reform, and in support.
- Michael Jarred
Person
Michael Jarred. On behalf of the Community Alliance with Family Farmers in support. Thank you.
- Sandra Nakagawa
Person
Thank you, Sandra Nakagawa, on behalf of the following organizations in support American Farmland Trust, California Climate and Agriculture Network, California Certified Organic Farms, California Nurses for Environmental Health and Justice, carbon Cycle Institute, Healthcare Without Harm, Mandela Partners and the Heart of the City Farmers Market, Santa Cruz Climate Action Network and GMO Science.
- Anna Larson
Person
Thank you, Anna Larson, on behalf of the following organizations the Center for Food Safety, Monterey Bay Central Labor Council, and Food Forward. Thank you.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Okay, seeing no other witnesses here in support, we'll go ahead and move it to the telephone conference line.
- Committee Secretary
Person
If you would like to testify in support for AB 40 eight, please press 10 at this time. And we have a comment from line 81. Please go ahead.
- Noah Whitley
Person
Thank you. Chair Members. My name is Noah Whitley. On behalf of the Compost Coalition, we are in support of this Bill.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Moderator do we have any additional
- Committee Secretary
Person
I. was just going to say we have no other comments at this time.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Well, thank you. Do we have any lead opposition witnesses here in the room? No. Okay, seeing none. Then we'll move to opposition on the telephone conference line.
- Committee Secretary
Person
To testify in opposition to AB 40 eight, please press 10 and we have no comment.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Okay, so we'll bring it back to the Committee. Do we have any questions or comments? Thank you.
- Steve Padilla
Legislator
Madam Chair. Just brought to thank the author an amazing team, comprehensive and strategic all at once, not to mention well overdue, certainly with respect to the resilience focused and food access and equity. It's really big. In large part, I represent a district that could well be four different districts, but certainly one important component of it is very much affected by the proposed bond and the measure.
- Steve Padilla
Legislator
So I want to thank you for your leadership on that and I'm happy to be added at the right time and happy to move at the appropriate time when we have a quorum.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
I will second those comments. Thank you for bringing this Bill forward and I'm happy to see so many people here in this room today and of course in support of this measure and at this moment we don't have quorum, but we would love for you to close.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you so much. I'd like to thank my witnesses for their testimony as well as those that are stood up in support. It's a broad coalition and a needed coalition. And thank you for your comments, Senator Padilla, and love to have you on. And you as well. Chair Hurtado. And so at the appropriate time, I hope that it does pass and I respectfully ask their Senators for their aye vote.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Well, thank you so much, Assemblymember Wilson. And up next, we will move to Assembly Bill 552 by Assembly Member Bennett. We are going to take a quick recess to wait for additional Members to come in and present on their measures. Thank you for your patience. Okay, we are back. Thank you for your patience. We have an author ready to present here in the room.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
And before we proceed with the author in the room, I will go ahead and announce at the moment that AB 660 has been pulled from the agenda for today. AB 660 has been pulled from today's agenda. And moving on, we have Assemblymember Hart here to present on AB 1197. Please begin when you are ready.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Thank you. Madam Chair and Senators, I'm pleased to present AB 1197 to the Committee. Today, California's small farmers face numerous challenges that make it difficult for them to survive economically and maintain food production. Climate change, decreasing crop resilience and recent droughts threaten farm to fork efforts, farmers markets and other community market opportunities. AB 1197 will for the first time define and map local food producers to identify small local farms that provide essential produce to California's communities.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
This measure will support efforts to connect small family farms to the necessary resources and ensure California continues to protect diverse cultural communities and uplift local economies. Testifying in support are David Runsten, representing the Community Alliance for Family Farmers and Susie Sutfin, the founder of Tahoe Food Club.
- David Runsten
Person
Good afternoon, Madam Chair and Members. David Runsten for the Community Alliance with Family Farmers or CAFF. CAFF has represented small farms and local food for over 45 years. We are the sponsors of AB 1197. Why did we create this Bill? California agriculture still includes tens of thousands of small scale farms, including most of the immigrants and people of color.
- David Runsten
Person
A sizable number grow produce that is consumed locally by their diverse cultural communities, and this is important for the economic well being and food security of those communities. A significant share of this produce is marketed directly to consumers. These farms are increasingly under stress from multiple sources. The COVID Pandemic climate change, which has increased weather variability, leading to drought, wildfire and flood impacts. Consolidation of farms has proceeded rapidly in California in recent years, and the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act has only amplified that trend.
- David Runsten
Person
In California, we've paved over some 50,000 acres of agricultural land each year for decades. But now we have the added pressure of outside investment in Farmland, as with the nut orchards, we added a million acres of nut orchards in 20 years and the almonds alone represent 25% of all irrigated agriculture in California. This is making it increasingly difficult for people to start farms or continue producing local food. The number of certified farmers markets and the certified producers has declined.
- David Runsten
Person
In AB 1197, we have focused on farms of 500 acres or less that engage in direct marketing and sell at least 75%. In California, we added a provision for meat producers and we are looking at dairy producers. We have located this initiative at the Department of Conservation because they have the farmland mapping experience. There are plans underway at CDFA and DWR to map small farms, and the mapping requirement in this Bill could be coordinated with those efforts. We urge your aye vote on AB 1197 to help us preserve local food in California.
- Susie Sutphin
Person
Good afternoon, Chair, Members. My name is Susie Sutphin. I'm a 25 year resident of California and the founder of Tahoe Food Hub, a local food aggregator based in Truckee, California. We support over 50 farms and ranches in the Sierra foothills in Sacramento Valley.
- Susie Sutphin
Person
And I started the Food Hub in 2012 for two reasons one, to represent small and medium sized family farms and provide them an equitable marketplace where they could get a fair wholesale price and two, increase access to local food in the High Sierra by taking advantage of the proximity to year round food production. When we talk about sustainable farming, we need to ensure the farm business is just as sustainable as their farming practices.
- Susie Sutphin
Person
Bills like AB 1197 aim to put measures in place that ensure the long term success of smaller farms so they can have a viable farming career and continue to feed their community. Without the economy of scale that larger farms have, smaller farms have a harder time absorbing the additional cost associated with power outages, water restrictions, wildflower and wild, wildflowers and flood. In the last five years, 50% of our farms have had at least one fire evacuation, while no farm has completely burned.
- Susie Sutphin
Person
There has been wildfire damage. And for some, the future threat has been too much, and they've actually changed careers. And we have three of those farms that would fall into that category. Bill AB 1197 recognizes that small farms, small and medium sized farms are critical to a thriving food system.
- Susie Sutphin
Person
The ETC Group, a research organization focused on global socioeconomic and ecological issues, found that industrial food system uses 70% of the world's agricultural resources to provide only 30% of our food, leaving smaller farms to produce the remaining 70% with only 30% of the resources. Smaller farms are how we're feeding the world, and they need our protection. By mapping local producers, AB 1197 will show how local family farms are the backbone of California's agriculture. This will give local organizations like Tahoe Food Hub the ability to better serve our growers and ensure their resiliency and success. Please vote yes on 1197.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you. At this moment, we'll take any additional individuals here in the room who want to state their name and organization in support of the measure.
- Rebecca Marcus
Person
Good afternoon, Chair and Members. Rebecca Marcus on behalf of the Certified Organic Farmers. Thank you.
- Brian Shobe
Person
Brian Shobe on behalf of the California Climate and Agriculture Network in support. Thank you.
- Andrea Collins
Person
Andrea Collins with NRDC. The Natural Resources Defense Council in support. Thank you.
- Beth Smoker
Person
Beth Smoker with the California Food and Farming Network in support. Thank you.
- Melissa Sigun
Person
Melissa Sigun on behalf of the Pesticide Action Network. In support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hi. Andy Najaris with the Agricultural Institute of Marin in support.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Seeing no additional individuals here in support of this measure. Do we have any witnesses or individuals in opposition to this measure in this room? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and move to the telephone conference line in support and opposition to this measure.
- Committee Secretary
Person
If you would like to testify in support or opposition to AB 1197, please press 10 at this time, and we have a comment from line 81. Please go ahead.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you. Chair, Members, my name is Noah Whitley, speaking on behalf of the Mid Peninsula Regional Open Space District. We are in support of this Bill.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Thank you and we have no further comments at this time.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Okay, having heard from both support and opposition, do we have any questions or comments from committee Members? Committee Member?
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Committee Member. Stage to myself, every politician's dream. No appreciate the author. Happy to move when we have a quorum.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you and I'll go ahead and give it back to you. Selena Hart, would you like to close?
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Respectfully request an aye vote.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Okay. Thank you. At this moment, we are as a Subcommittee hearing, and we'll go ahead and wait until we establish a quorum to be able to vote on your measure. Thank you so much very much. And in the room, we also have up next Assembly Member Bennett on AB 552. Assembly Member, feel free to begin when you are ready.
- Steve Bennett
Legislator
Thank you very much, Madam Chair Members, I'd like to start by thanking the committee staff for their great work on this Bill. AB 52 will simply create a regional heavy equipment loan sharing program. Equipment sharing programs allow farmers to borrow or lease expensive heavy equipment, much like you would handle books out of a library. It's a Bill that has great bipartisan support and no opposition after the purchase of land. This heavy equipment is the next biggest challenge for particularly small farmers moving forward. And I look forward to your support of the Bill.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you.
- Steve Bennett
Legislator
Sorry, I do have two witnesses here, right? And that's Anna Larson, California Climate and Agriculture Network. And Christine Gemperley. And from the Gimperley almond orchards. Anna? Thank you.
- Anna Larson
Person
Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Anna Larson with the California Climate and Agriculture Network, and we are co sponsor of this Bill with CAFF, the Community Alliance with Family Farmers and Calcan is a coalition of eight sustainable and organic farming organizations. And so, Assembly Member Bennett mentioned, while California leads the country in agricultural production, the number of family farms decreases with each agricultural census due to market pressures and climate change.
- Anna Larson
Person
And more than ever, farmers need support to have viable farming operations and to also be able to meet state goals for agriculture, like as outlined in the 30 x 30 goals and in the Scoping plan. And so, farm equipment is the highest capital expense, as was mentioned. And 75% of California's 70,000 farms operate with net cash farm income under $25,000 or less.
- Anna Larson
Person
And so investments in specialized equipment for healthy soils practices or wildfire mitigation like no till drills, wood chippers or compost spreaders can often be out of reach for farmers, especially small and midscale farmers. And so we've heard that access to equipment is a critical need for the farmers that we work with and from our partners in Extension and Resource Conservation Districts in on our nonprofit partners who collectively serve thousands of farmers across the state.
- Anna Larson
Person
And many of them have identified equipment sharing as a solution, but they lack the funds that they need to be able to create and start those programs. And so we already know that this model works. In Fresno, the UC Cooperative Extension Small Farms team operates an equipment sharing program to help Healthy Soils recipients be able to apply compost on their farm.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
And so the program is so successful that they actually have a lot more interest and they're able to serve, and they're limiting it only to the Healthy Soils participants. And there's still too much demand and so Assembly Member Bennett's AB 552 would help programs like Fresno's be able to meet that demand and also help scale that model across the state to realize the potential of agriculture to address climate change and support regional food economies. So thank you for your time. Thank you.
- Steve Bennett
Legislator
Thank you, Anna. Our other witness is Christine Gemperle.
- Christine Gemperle
Person
Hi, again. I'm Christine Gemperle of Gemperle Orchards and my brother and I farm 135 acres in Stanislaus and Merced Counties. We work that land ourselves. We have no other employees, and that actually helps us to limit the cost of labor, which we need to remain financially viable. But unfortunately, that is no longer enough with the skyrocketing costs of growing. As multigenerational and small farmers, we are committed to the stewardship of the land, which means adoption of sustainable regenerative and conservation practices.
- Christine Gemperle
Person
But this often requires specialized equipment that we might only need for a couple of days out of the year. Examples I gave before, like compost spreaders and Low till sea drills. The equipment enables us to eliminate burning, sequester carbon, build healthy soils, conserve water, and reduce dust, all things that we need. But it's also expensive, with many pieces well over $100,000 or more. Being small, we do not have the economies of scales to make such purchases worthwhile.
- Christine Gemperle
Person
Conversely, paying someone else to do the job really puts us in the red. Small farms built California AG to what it is today. We are the backbone. This Bill will help future generations of small farmers who are willing to do the work to have a future. It will only also promote community at a time when things are becoming increasingly competitive and aggressive. Don't wait for consolidation and our disappearance. Speaking for California's boots on the ground, I'm asking you for your support on AB 552 to help farmers access critical equipment. Thank you.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Do we have any additional witness individuals here in support of the measure, please state your name and organization, please.
- Michael Jarred
Person
Michael Jarred, on behalf of the Community Alliance with Family Farmers, in support. Thank you.
- Rebecca Marcus
Person
Rebecca Marcus, representing Carbon Cycle Institute and the American Farmland Trust. Thank you.
- Beth Smoker
Person
Beth Smoker, with the California Food and Farming Network in support. Thank you.
- Christina Mohabir
Person
Christina Mohabir, on behalf of California's Against Waste, in support. Thank you.
- Melissa Sagun
Person
Melissa Sagun, on behalf of the Pesticide Action Network and Californians for Pesticide Reform in support. Thank you.
- Andy Naja-Riese
Person
Andy Naja-Riese, Agricultural Institute of Marin, in support.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Okay, having heard from all individuals in support, we'll move on to any witnesses or individuals here in opposition to this measure here in room 2100, seeing none. Okay, we'll take it to the telephone conference line. For those who wish to state position either in support or in opposition to this measure, please state your name and organization, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
If you would like to testify in support or opposition to AB 552, please press 10 and we have a comment from line 91. Please go ahead.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hi. My name is Pala Khan. I'm with California for Pesticide Reform and I want to support this Bill as well. Thank you.
- Committee Secretary
Person
And Madam Chair, we have one more comment coming through. It'll just be one moment please, while we provide them with their line number.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you.
- Committee Secretary
Person
And line 87, please go ahead.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Mr. Bella Kraus. Sustainable Agriculture Education in support. Thank you.
- Committee Secretary
Person
And there are no further comments.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Having heard from everyone both in support and opposition to this Bill, any questions or comments from committee Members? No. Okay, would you like to close respectfully.
- Steve Bennett
Legislator
Ask for an aye vote
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Okay. Thank you. Assembly Member Bennett. We will place this Bill on hold until we establish quorum. Thank you. And we have one more Bill. And we are going to take another pause or break to wait for Assemblymember Jones Sawyer to present on AB 1016. And I hear he will be in here shortly. He's presenting on another Bill in a different committee. So please bear with us while we get this agenda rolling. Thank you. Okay, we're reconvening here. The Senate Committee on Agriculture. We have all Members here. So committee Assistant can you please establish quorum?
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
[Roll Call]
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Jones Sawyer. Welcome. Welcome to the Senate AG Committee. We're you're the last item on the agenda.
- Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer
Person
Oh, great. And as the ranking Member of the Assembly Agriculture Committee, I would like to present AB 1016, which authorizes the Department of Pesticide Regulations DPR to create a pathway for our community colleges or other institutions to prepare applicants for the aerial pesticide applicator examination in order to operate unmanned aerial systems. UAS, commonly known as drones, on California farms, vineyards and nurseries. Today's, farms primarily use drones to capture crop canopy, soil health, water usage, and other farm data.
- Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer
Person
A drone can be used to apply pesticides, but only if the aerial applicator has been trained in a journeyman apprentice structure and earned a request training and ultimately passed the examination for an aerial pesticide applicator license. And before anyone can spray any farm with a drone during commercial application, they must successfully complete the state's license exam through DPR. Under existing law, only a journeyman can apply to take the license exam.
- Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer
Person
In other words, the sole pathway to becoming a licensed drone aerial pesticide applicator is to work with one of a few hundred existing journeymen, with the vast majority of potential trainers being airline pilots, not drone pilots. The current regulatory process impeded individuals from becoming licensed aerial applicators. As a result, there are only seven DPR licensed drone applicators in the entire state of California.
- Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer
Person
This Bill aims to further facilitate the training of drone operators on the necessary practical skills required to successfully complete the state's aerial applicator license exam in an effort to boost the number of licensed drone applicators in California. With DPR's adoption of AB 1016, farmers will be able to use precision technology to spray fewer pesticides while using less water and airplane fuel. Farm workers will have less contact with pesticides, and the use of drone application will help decrease pilot fatigue and risk accidents.
- Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer
Person
In May, the Federal Aviation Administration FAA issued a decision that stated there have been zero reported accidents or injuries among licensed agricultural drone operators in the eight years since the agency began licensing drones for pestitide applications in 2015. The FAA also shared that drones are lower risk than manned aircraft in a similar operation, drones weigh much less than manned aircraft, carry a smaller payload and no flammable fuel, fly slower, and are more manageable or maneuverable than manned aircraft.
- Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer
Person
By passing AB 1016, we will increase farm worker safety, equip farmers with more efficient and safe technology enhance California agricultural industry. With me to. Provide testimony is Al Stehly, a small farmer who operates a pesticide applicator services business. Thank you. And I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you.
- Al Stehly
Person
Good afternoon. Thank you. I'm honored to speak to you today. My name is Al Stehly. I'm a third generation farmer from San Diego County, where I grow avocados, citrus and wine grapes, most which are certified organic. I have been a licensed agricultural pesticide applicator for over 35 years. In that time, I've seen many advances in application technology that has resulted in improved efficacy and worker safety.
- Al Stehly
Person
The UAV, or drone spray application, is relatively new technology in this country, and many California farmers want to use this opportunity. A recent LA Times editorial about agricultural technology said producing food for a population of hundreds of millions, as California does, requires a focus on efficiency and methods that are as advanced as any semiconductor or automobile manufacturing operation. Drone pesticide application technology is safe and effective. What is not effective is the current pathway to obtain a license to use it in California.
- Al Stehly
Person
This Bill gives California Department of Pesticide Regulation the authority to recraft this process. Opposition to this Bill say they are concerned about safety. That is commendable, but misplaced. I don't think DPR will craft anything that is remotely unsafe. I urge you to pass this Bill. Thank you.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Do we have any additional individuals here in support of this measure?
- Peter Ansel
Person
Good afternoon, chair and Members, Peter Ansel from the California Farm Bureau, sponsor and proud to support.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you.
- Dennis Albiani
Person
Dennis Albiani, on behalf of the California Seed Association, California Wheat Growers and other agriculture associations, we support.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Okay, do we have any witnesses or individuals here in opposition to this measure? Okay, we have one.
- Terry Gage
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Terry Gage. I'm President of the California Agricultural Aircraft Association. Aerial application is unique. What works for ground equipment changes when you're flying 150 miles an hour, for example, in ground application equipment. And as you increase the spray pump pressure, you increase the amount of small droplets that can move off site and off the target area.
- Terry Gage
Person
The opposite is true for aerial application because when we increase the pump pressure, we're allowing that droplet to exit the nozzle at the same speed that the aircraft is going. So there's a lot of differences between ground application and aerial application equipment. And we only learn this through data collection, analysis, and this needs to occur for drones before we kind of open it up, because there needs to be guidance for these pilots to have assistance with nozzle selection, nozzle placement, and spray system development.
- Terry Gage
Person
We agree with the author and the sponsor that unmanned aerial systems can be a powerful tool for the industry. But as with any new technology, implementation is key to avoid unintended consequences. We support the amendments that limit the capacity for drones for the private pilot applicators and maintain equivalency for commercial unmanned, unmanned pilots. These amendments will allow growers to utilize this technology in a targeted manner. While more work can be done to determine best management practices.
- Terry Gage
Person
Additionally, pilots manned or unmanned performing the same service should be held to the same requirements. Right now, the best use of this technology is for spot or partial field applications. But there are larger drones in development. I think we need to think about that. There's even a hydrogen powered drone out there and a 500 pound drone, fixed wing drone out there that are in process. We believe this technology has place in agriculture and implementing this technology in a thoughtful manner will ensure its future.
- Terry Gage
Person
We encourage the Committee to include these amendments in AB 16 or 1016 for the benefit in the industry and the safety of the environment. Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Thank you. Do we have any other individuals here in this room just in opposition to this measure? Okay. Seeing none, we'll move to the telephone conference line for those who want to state the position either in support or in opposition to this measure.
- Committee Secretary
Person
If you would like to testify in support or opposition to AB 1016, please press 10. And Madam Chair, there are no comments.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Okay. Do we have any questions from committee Members? Okay, any additional comments concerned? Okay, we have a motion on this measure. Assembly Member, would you like to close.
- Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer
Person
Respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
The vote is 3-0. That Bill is out. Thank you so much. And that is the last Bill for today's agenda. I believe this is also the last hearing for the legislative year. I want to thank all the individuals in the room, those that participated outside of the room as well via Teleconference line and also to the Committee Members and the Vice Chair for all your work and just support for this committee. Thank you. Once again, I look forward to continuing to work with you all moving forward. Word. And I hope you enjoyed it so far. Thank you so much. And with that, that ends our hearing today. Thank you. Meeting adjourned. Thank you, Chair. Thank you.
- Melissa Hurtado
Legislator
Okay, thank you. And Committee assistant, you please call the roll
- Committee Secretary
Person
AB 1016. The motion is due pass. But first, re refer to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll Call]
Bill AB 408
Climate-resilient Farms, Sustainable Healthy Food Access, and Farmworker Protection Bond Act of 2024.
View Bill DetailCommittee Action:Passed
Next bill discussion: July 12, 2023
Previous bill discussion: May 31, 2023