Hearings

Senate Floor

June 4, 2025
  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    We have a quorum and we are ready to begin our day. Would the members and our guests beyond the rail and in the gallery please rise. We will be led in prayer this morning by our chaplain, Sister Michelle Gorman, after which, please remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.

  • Michelle Gorman

    Person

    So let us pray today that we will heed at least some of the advice given by Walt Whitman in these few lines from his poem Leaves of Grass. This is what you should do. Love the earth and sun and the animals. Despise riches. Give alms to everyone that asks. Stand up for the stupid and crazy.

  • Michelle Gorman

    Person

    Devote your income and labor to others. Hate tyrants. Argue not concerning God. Have patience and indulgence toward the people. Re examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book. Dismiss whatever insults your own soul and your very flesh shall be a great poem.

  • Michelle Gorman

    Person

    So gracious God, grant that our lives may be a poem that gives glory to you in all of creation. Amen.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please join in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    [crowd says the pledge]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Privileges of the floor, there are none. Messages from the Governor will be deemed read. Messages from the assembly will be deemed read. Reports of committees will be deemed read and amendments adopted. Motions and resolutions and notices.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics up, we are going to wait just one second because a mic is going up. Senator Jones, for what reason do you rise?

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Motions and resolutions, Mr. President.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you. Members and guests, I rise today to make a motion that I think will be very helpful to all of us here on the Senate Floor. I'd like to withdraw Senate Bill 2 from the Senate Environmental Quality Committee and bring it to the Senate Floor for consideration of this body.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please proceed.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Since the bill failed in committee, the Air Resources Board admitted they ignore how their regulations impact gas prices. By bringing this bill to the floor, we allow every member the opportunity to repeal Governor Newsom's 65 cent gas price hike or defend his higher prices. What's happened since this bill failed in committee is,

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    many of our members, in a bipartisan manner have called for the resignation of the chair of the California Air Resources Board, based on these comments that were made in an Assembly Committee hearing. And so Senate Bill 2 would give the Senate an opportunity to repeal some of the LCFS regulations that were passed by CARB back in November.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I asked for an aye vote on this motion.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, you are recognized.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Thank you. I would also concur with our- our leader. One of the toughest parts the Legislature has been talking about, affordability. One of the things that's most unaffordable in California right now is gasoline. In fact, a lot of people across the State of California are having to decide between a gallon of milk and a gallon of gas.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    High gas prices fall disproportionately on those hard working California families. They can't make ends meet and we can't continue.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, if you'll stick to the motion to withdraw.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you. Well, I think it's important to withdraw this bill because if you want to talk about affordability in the state and you really want to be serious, the way to do that is by bringing this bill forward,

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    voting for this bill. Because as projected by USC's Market Research, that said, gasoline can go up to $8 a gallon next year. Members, your constituents can't afford $8 a gallon of gas. And it's about time we bring this bill forward and put it forward and lighten the gas price for all Californians.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    And so therefore, I support my leader's motion.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Majority Leader.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Gonzalez, you are recognized.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. And I- I thank you for making sure that we're talking about the motion here. And Mr. President, members, good morning. And I just ask that we request a no vote. Thank you very much.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    So we have a request for a no vote from Majority Leader Senator Gonzalez and an aye vote from Senator Jones. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    One moment, members, we are working on a technical issue.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 10. Noes, 23. Motion fails. Members, we will move to consideration of the daily file today. We will begin with item 19.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 835 by Senator Ochoa Bogh, an act relating to pupil instruction.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you are recognized.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Good morning and thank you, Mr. Chair and ladies and gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 835 will give Cambridge University's advanced academic curriculum the same standing in the Education Code as Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate Programs, the other two internationally recognized providers of advanced academic programs for K-12 schools.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    The Bill also offers guidance on the criteria that should be met before any privately developed program, curriculum, or examination can be identified by name in the education code. SB 835 does not place additional requirements on school districts or students.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    It simply places the Cambridge Advanced Academic Program in the Education Code to benefit current and future Cambridge international students. I respectfully ask for an "Aye" vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Cabaldon, you are recognized.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Just to express a few concerns about the Bill, we've had extensive discussions with the author about this in the Education Committee as well. And the Cambridge Program is, is a solid program. The Education Code—sorry, I'm a little under the weather.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    The Education Code is—should not be a billboard for private companies with curriculum packages. It is true that we have, for many, many years, had the Advanced Placement tests and International Baccalaureate programs in the Education Code, but those came after they were already widely adopted by school districts throughout California. So, I raised the concern with the author.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I know she's working on—she's continuing to work on this issue, that it's just not—the right process here is not for a couple of schools to do something and come to us, to have us tell educators what a good program is. We've always done it the other way around.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    What, what do teachers and schools believe, at scale in California, are the right programs, rather than us telling them and putting an Ed Code section that is basically a billboard for a single, a single institution. So, I know the author understands this. I'm hoping that we'll continue to work on it in the Assembly and that this program is.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    There's nothing wrong with it, but the—but the Education Code shouldn't be a bus stop billboard for individual companies, and we should have education—educators—do this first and bring it to us, rather than us tell educators what they should be teaching.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no further discussion or debate. Senator Ochoa Bogh, you may close.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. For those reasons, addressing some of the concerns that my good friend and colleague and member of the Education Committee expressed, I added intent language to clarify that in order for any privately developed program, curriculum, or examination to be identified by name in the Education Code must be specified, must have specified criteria, including it's already offered by a local education agency within the state, has been approved as meeting the A-G admissions requirements of the University of California and the California State University.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    It includes a comprehensive standardized examination that has been evaluated and recommended for college credit by the American Council of Education and is supported by professional development and training for teachers and school site staff offering the course set of articulated courses or exam. With this, I respectfully ask for an "Aye" vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Ochoa Bogh moves the call. We will now move to File Item 22, SB 403 by Senator Blakespear. Seccretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 403 by Senator Blakespear. An act relating to public health.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear, you are recognized.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam President. Colleagues, I rise today to present SB 403, which removes the sunset for the End of Life Option Act, which is California's Medical Aid and Dying Law.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Medical Aid and dying gives mentally capable terminally ill adults with a prognosis of six months or less to live the option to request from their Doctor a prescription for medication that they can then decide to self administer and die peacefully in their sleep.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    For the last nine years, we have had this legal protection that allows for individuals with a terminal illness that will lead to their death to have medical autonomy in determining their end of life. Nine years of data shows the law is working exactly as lawmakers intended.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And medical aid in dying is being safely practiced in California, even for people who don't take the medication. It provides peace of mind for people who fear a painful death and know that they have an option.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    The latest report shows that in 2023, 1281 terminally ill Californians obtained prescriptions for medical aid in dying, and 884 of these patients, 69% took the medication. In 2023, the aid in dying medication was prescribed by 337 unique physicians.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    The looming sunset date can cause undue stress and fear in people diagnosed with a disease that will in several years be the cause of their death. Many Californians want to know that they will have this option. There is no other medical aid and dying law in the country that has a sunset date.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Removing the sunset does not take away the right of legislators to reevaluate and amend the law at any future point. SB 403 removes this sunset, making the End of Life Option Act permanent. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Grayson. You are recognized.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam President. Members, I get to speak from a very personal perspective. First of all, I'm rising in support of SB 403 and thank the author for her thoughtful bill.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I rise to only support the bill simply because of the very stringent guidelines that have been built into the framework of this bill and the very rare, rare occasions that this option would ever be used in a person's life.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I say that because I can remember the occasion in which my father arrived home just in time to keep my mother from taking her own life because of the pain that she was in.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    And the latter part of her life, the end of her days started with her losing her toe, then losing her foot, then losing her leg below the knee, then being cut off half thigh, then her organs shutting down and then her eyes going blind to where she couldn't see her children. The pain was excruciating, terribly excruciating.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    And I realized at that point that the many, many, many prescriptions that she was taking was not so she could live. It was to simply keep her from dying.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    And for that I rise today, for us to make sure that we deal with this sunset so that people in very rare cases and under very strict guidelines may have a choice to not become an experiment with drugs, but to be able to have some type of dignity when they exit this life and enter into the hands of our Lord.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    With that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Becker, you are recognized at your desk.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I thank my. My colleague from Concord for sharing that story and for the colleague from Encinitas for bringing this up. I want to just share a personal story because this had always been very theoretical for me and we went through this last year with my friend's wife.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And, you know, fortunately towards the end she was still quite in good spirits. But the prognosis was extremely clear and she took this medicine. It was a very intense experience. I could tell more stories sort of around it that I heard from my friend and he shared with all of us.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    But ultimately it was a really beautiful thing as well and glad we have this in place. And I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar you are recognized.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thanks Mr. President. You know, I rise in my capacity of health chair and I can't as eloquently share personal stories as my colleagues have. But I do want to share that this- this program has been working as intended to bring peace of mind to terminally ill individuals.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    And and in the committee, the author took an amendment to address some of the concerns of the opposition. The opposition was asking for more data on this program which I think they are within their right. We should have more data and we do collect almost more data than any other state that has this program.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    But we don't distribute all that data. So the amendment that she took is to have the department come together with stakeholders on determining what more data can be pulled that is already accessible to make public.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    But I respectfully asked for an aye vote on extending the sunset because this is a program that is needed for a lot of terminally ill individuals.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you Senator. Senator Laird, you are recognized.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President. I rise in strong support of this bill. And if you just look at some of the facts, 94% of the people that have utilized this are in hospice or palliative care. It is really a clear delineation. And if you-

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    We don't operate out of polls, but 75% of the public polled in California supports this effort.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And there was an op ed in the Sacramento Bee a few days ago that ran in other places in my district that this morning from Dan Diaz who was on the with together with his wife was on the front page of I believe it was People Magazine at the time.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    She had to go to Oregon and deal with it before this was in the law. And it is a very, very powerful reason that we need to do this.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    I also would commend to you there's a story in the New York Times last fall, Shmuel Thaler, who's a well known Santa Cruzan and prize winning photographer, his mother chose in New York to end her life. She was known because her brother was Ed Koch, the mayor of New York.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And the New York Times covered a long accounting of how the family gathered, how she chose to do it, what her affliction was, how it was a blessing for the family that- that she was going to be out of her pain.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    But it was a way that in an adult manner people gathered around in the family there's even a humorous anecdote because she called the New York Times and said she was reporting an obituary, and they said, whose? And she said mine, because she was calling before it happened.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And I think that if you read that, you get the full flavor of why this is necessary, how it's handled responsibly, how family members can step up. And for those of us that lived through the intensity of the AIDS epidemic, this would have been so important to have in place.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    I cannot describe the number of people I was with when they were in excruciating pain. There wasn't much hope for their life being extended and there was nothing we could do. And they fully had their capacities. They were fully aware of the pain and the suffering that they were experiencing, what was going on.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    They could have made a responsible, legally viable, under this law, decision that would have spared them that and spared their family and friends what it was like to be there, to go all the way through it. And when I was in the assembly, I was there for very often unsuccessful attempts to do this.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And there were these strong arguments. And I think the experience of this law being in place has refuted almost every one of those arguments. There is no abuse. There is nothing being forced on people. There is not this as an out for somebody with a disability.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And so I think it is time that we remove this sunset and that we continue to compile the data that has proven the need for this law. And so I salute the author for bringing it forward. I know it's a difficult decision, but voting for this bill is the right decision.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Senator Valladares, you're welcome.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Thank you. Colleagues and I rise in respectful opposition. This is deeply personal, obviously, to a lot of us here in this room. And it's hard, but it's important, especially as we consider whether or not to remove the sunset on California's assisted suicide law. In 2012, my mom was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    By some miracle, it was caught early and she had massive surgery to remove it. And after months of brutal chemo, she went into remission for nearly six years. But in 2018, the cancer came back, stage four. The prognosis, six to 18 months. I'm now brought back to that moment in that oncologist's office. I was a new mom.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    My daughter was barely walking. And here I was being told that I would lose my mom. I became her full time caregiver, her advocate, her voice. I fought with hospital staff, with doctors, with nurses, paper pushers to demand better care. I pushed for pain management. And the pain.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    My mom's pain was so unbearable, I could see it in her face all the time. But I fought for her. Not because I had special access, but because I refused to let her die without dignity. I had to. She was my mom. But here's what I learned.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Unless you have the time, the resources, or someone to fight for you, our system does not offer the same level of care, especially not at the end of life. Poor families, immigrants, people of color, and rural Californians too often face limited options, inconsistent care, and unbearable suffering. That's why I oppose removing the sunset.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Not to oppose the law, but because the least we can do is require regular reporting, review, and accountability. We owe that to our communities, who are most at risk of falling through the cracks. When systems fail, it's always the underserved who suffer the most. This isn't theoretical for me, it's deeply personal.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    And if we want to lead with compassion and equity, then we must be willing to revisit and refine this law, not lock it in permanently and walk away. I respectfully asked for a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Valladares. Seeing no other mics raised, Senator Blakespear, you may close.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Well, I- I want- Really want to thank those of you who stood today and shared your personal stories and to recognize the richness of the experiences that people have around death.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    I come to this topic having practiced estate planning law for many years, which is- which is why I was having conversations with people about their end of life.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Because people who come in for estate planning are drafting their wills and trusts and their advanced health care directives, and they're asking about what they have control over, what they can give control to an agent for and what they can't. And the reality we all know is that we will all die.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And we- we face the death of our parents and our grandparents and our loved ones around us, and we all have a different experience with- with the variety of different ways that people die.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And one of the things that has been so clear to me when I've started to work in this area and have talked to countless people about this, is that people would like to be together with their family members as they are approaching death, to not be constrained by some of the laws that they fear.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    So, for example, if somebody has a terminal illness and they see the end and they see the degradation of their quality of life and they see the suffering, people will resort to types of suicide, and they want to protect their family members, so they will do it in ways that create waves of trauma in families.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And people, so many people have said, I wish I had helped my mom or my dad when they came to me. I wish I could have been with them at the end. But we didn't want to risk any legal consequences. There are- There are innumerable stories that are like that. And this is not.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    It's really important to distinguish that this medical aid in dying is not suicide, because suicide is when people want to die. But medical aid in dying is people who are deciding they don't want to suffer. They know that they will die, but they do not want to suffer.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And so medical aid in dying is the, the end of life option. It's deciding at the end of life what it is, how it is that you will have your final exit.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And seeing those nuances in the differences between- between- between what the law is and what people fear, it's really important to just recognize that, because- because we know that having- having the beginning of life, having your full life, having the end of life be something that's under your control, that you choose, that's your personal autonomy, that's your path.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Ultimately, that is the core of self determination. That is the core of saying that we give you the autonomy to decide. And- And I think nine years of data show, and we are collecting an enormous amount of data. It shows that this law is working. There are 11 other states that have this law in effect.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    None of them have sunsets. And the reality of a sunset is that people get diagnosed with something that they know will eventually lead to their death, but they're not within six months right now. But they think, what happens when I get there? Will this law be in effect when I get there?

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And that's what's driving the removal of the sunset, is to say, we want people to have the peace of mind, to know that they will be able to make that choice when they get to within six months of death. But right now, the law is very limited.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    It is only applicable to people with a terminal illness who are within six months of death. So- So just recognizing 1,200 people in a year who are accessing it is relatively small. And I- I- I want to recognize my colleague who spoke against it.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    We would like to make it so that there's more education, that everybody understands what is available to them, that all doctors are aware of the choices that they are- that they are freely communicating with patients. You know, the concerns that she raised were- were about the fact that not enough people know about it.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And I think that is something we need to continue to work on. But this is solely the removal of a sunset. So with that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 25, noes 6. The measure passes. We will move to item 23. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 433 by Senator Wahab. An act relating to health and care facilities.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I rise to present SB 433, which establishes room and board rate protection for participants in the Assisted Living Waiver and CalAIM Assisted Living Facility Transitions Community Support Programs. The ALW and Assisted Living Community Supports Programs, both Medi-Cal funded, allow participants to live in residential care facilities for the elderly, RCFEs as an alternative to nursing home placement.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Under current law, RCFEs may not charge Supplemental Security Income, or Social Security, recipients more than a standardized monthly rate for a room and board. State regulations require the standardized rate, established by the Department of Social Services, to leave those residents with a monthly personal needs allowance of $179 for 2025.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    However, low-income Medi-Cal recipients without SSI are not protected by an income-based rate cap and are not entitled to keep a personal needs allowance. The population comprises nearly a 45% of the program's participants. So, just think to yourself that if you only had $179 for the full month, what would you do?

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Can you pay your groceries? Can you pay your phone bill? Can you do any of these things? So, recently, some facilities have taken advantage of this distinction in the law to compel non-SSI residents and family members to pay out of pocket for rate increases, or face eviction.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Without room and board rate protections, program participants are older adults or seniors, often with cognitive impairments and individuals with significant disabilities, are at risk of losing their homes and care, not only harming themselves, but also impacting their families.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    SB 433 creates an income-based cap to RCFE room and board rates that allows all Medi-Cal Assisted Living Program participants to keep the same personal needs allowance. I respectfully ask for an "Aye" vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no debate or discussion. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    "Ayes," 31. "Noes," 5. The measure passes. Item 24. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 435 by Senator Wahab, an act relating to residential care facilities for the elderly.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you're recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I rise to present SB 435, which requires residential care facilities for the elderly to have alternative sources of power capable of supporting residents' health and safety for 72 hours during power outages. Since 2022, skilled nursing facilities have been putting backup power power into place for their residents.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    By contrast, seniors and disabled individuals who reside in RCFEs remain unprotected from power outages, disasters, and rolling blackouts. RCFE residents, who are often frail or have chronic illnesses such as dementia, are not able to protect themselves without a continuous power supply and rely on equipment and systems powered by electricity.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    In 2024 investor owned utilities performed 34 public safety power, PSP, shutoffs. A single PSP event can impact tens of thousands of customers. Approximately 200,000 older adults and persons with disabilities live in RCFEs throughout California.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    One third of our senior facilities are in high risk fire zones, many more located in high heat zones, which puts them at risk of power blackouts. Seniors are particularly vulnerable during extreme heat waves. This past weekend, we experienced triple digit temperatures throughout the Central Valley and elsewhere.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Imagine July and August when the likelihood of blackouts will be more frequent. Residents will be endangered and first responders will be overwhelmed. Without mandated emergency power, residents face unnecessary and preventable risks, such as the loss of ventilation, air conditioning, lighting, oxygen machines, hearing aid chargers, and other medical devices. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll for absent Members.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 38, noes 0. The measure passes. Members, we're going to move to item 26. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 526 by Senator Menjivar, an act relating to air pollution.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar, you are recognized. For which...

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    I believe I have amendments at the desk on this, on this bill. From friendly amendments.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Yes, but we do allow the author to present first and then throw that mic up. All right. Senator Menjivar, you are recognized to present your bill.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Mr. President, I have a friendly bill in front of everybody, SB 526. Colleagues, in a concentrated area in my district, my community is having difficulty breathing good quality air. In fact, if you were an EQ Committee, you would have seen the photos of cars, homes that have thick layers of dust emission on them as if it was an apocalypse, as if it was an abandoned community. That's my soccer fields.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    In an area that for some reason City of LA decided to put industrial aggregate facilities in is inundated with dust layers across the entire streets where communities play, where people live. What I'm looking to do, and I've been working on this issue ever since I was a staffer almost eight years ago, is to change the trajectory of my community members to ensure that they have access to clean water like those that live on the coast, those that don't have industrial facilities right next to their homes.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    And SB 526 is looking to do that. What I want to make sure is that South Coast AQMD updates the rule and how they enforce aggregate facilities, a rule that has not been changed since 2006. So in my district, what you see are high rises in a suburban area, 50ft, 60ft, 70ft high piles, mounds of debris, aggregate material that you can see from the 5 Freeway. No other building is higher than this. I know that maybe the Senator from San Francisco would want that to be building and not mounds.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    And maybe in this situation I would agree with him because I would take anything but those mounds in my district. What is happening is that however times we've submitted to South Coast AQMD to come enforce, they said that they're not violating anything. But you can physically breathe in that air that will choke you up.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    It's so very thick. Now, in conversations with South Coast AQMD, they engaged with me and my office, they visited my district, they came out and they committed to me that they were gonna work on this issue. They asked that they could do it, they said that they could do it on their own.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    And so they wrote me a public letter committing that they were gonna address the air quality issues in my district. And I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I want to, there's a high chance that this bill will not move forward in the Assembly because I want to see if South Coast AQMD can fulfill their promise to me and my community that they will address it.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    But I want to make sure that as you and all your other bills have it there just in case that promise isn't fulfilled. But for now, I'm excited that I had that commitment from them, and my community members will be able to breathe better in the next coming year. But for now, asking for an eye vote on SB 526.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, for what reason do you rise?

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    I rise for friendly amendments I believe been passed out that are at the desk.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read the amendments.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Amendments by Senator Strickland, set one.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, you may speak on the amendments.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, once again this year, the legislative Democrats at the start of the year said their intention is to address the affordability crisis in California. If you're truly serious about making life more affordable, I urge you in this Legislature to adopt these amendments, which would prevent the South Coast Air Quality Management District from banning perfectly functional natural gas appliances.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Let me repeat, the South Coast Air Quality Management District is attempting to force all residents, homeowners, renters, small business owners alike, to replace perfectly good natural gas appliances with far more less expensive, actually far more expensive electric alternatives. The AQMD is yet another unelected board of bureaucrats with no accountability to the four counties it represents.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    This Friday, the Air Quality Management District is considering banning natural gas furnaces and water heaters in favor of the more expensive all electric units by 2026. According to the Cost of Living Council, this could this upgrade to all electric space and water heaters can range from $1,500 to $47,000 per unit per family.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    It is never a good idea to impose excessive regulation, especially considering that the cost of living in California is 42% higher than the national average. The AQMD Regional Board is trying to enact this extreme mandate with minimal transparency and input from Californians.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    And today, if you are serious about making California residents live more affordable, then support my amendment, which aims to let Californians keep their gas powered furnaces and water heaters. As we all know, former Vice President Kamala Harris and the second gentleman get to use their gas stove for the rest of the year, but will leave us out in the cold, literally. I ask for your aye vote on these friendly amendments.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Majority Leader Senator Gonzalez, you are recognized.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President and Members. SB 526 will protect overburdened and vulnerable communities in Southern California from the public health harms of particulate emissions from aggregate operations to ensure that people don't get things like, I don't know, asthma, cancer, that they're not inhaling formaldehyde or benzene.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    For years, communities like the Senator's from the San Fernando Valley, and I thank her for bringing this forward, have had live to suffocated by particulate matter emissions from aggregate recycling facilities, which have led to very high asthma rates and obstructive pulmonary disease.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    These amendments, as proposed by my colleague from Orange County on the other side of the aisle, would protect appliances that are far worse for indoor air quality, produce more GHG emissions, and in the long run make Californians feel the burden of high expenses. So, you know, I will speak to those amendments, and we'll ensure that we move forward seeing.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Right. Seeing no one else with their mics raised. Senator Strickland, you may close.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Thank you. To retort, I respect comments from my good friend from Long Beach, my colleague from Long Beach. However, it's very almost like Marie Antoinette, let him eat cake. You know, it's one thing to say, you know, oh, okay, we're going to be able to do this, but I think more importantly, people are having a tough time living paycheck to paycheck, and they can't afford these kind of mandates coming from the State of California.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    In fact, I think they would much rather put food on the table and a roof over their head to be able to do this instead of this extreme kind of mandate come from the Air Quality Management District. And for those reasons, I bet a lot of your constituents are going to be very upset when they find out that this regulation came to fruition and you didn't do anything about it. You're going to get calls in your office, I guarantee it. I ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Gonzalez, for what reason do you raise?

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I move to lay the hostile amendments on the table please.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    This motion is non-debatable. Secretary. First of all, Majority Leader is asking for an aye vote and Senator Strickland is asking for a no vote. Secretary, please call the roll.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 28, noes 10. The motion, the amendments are tabled, and we will move back to the bill in chief. Seeing no microphones raised, no discussion or debate. Secretary, please call the roll on... Senator Wahab.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I just wanted to rise in support of this bill. I will say that our colleague from Southern California has consistently brought up concerns about her district, the health care crisis in her district. This bill does help her district first and foremost, and you cannot put a price on health. Thank you. I respectfully ask for an aye.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Senator Menjivar, you may close.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thank you to the Senator from Hayward for the final touches on this bill. Respectfully asking for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Secretary, please call roll.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 25, noes 10. The measure passes. Item 74. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 645 by Senator Umberg, an act relating to juries.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you may present.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. President. SB 645 relates to peremptory challenges. Peremptory challenges are challenges that counsel exercise in a jury trial where they can disqualify a juror for any reason that is not illegal. Historically, prosecutors in particular, and this is particularly pertinent to criminal law, would challenge folks based on race, based on prejudice, presumptions on biases, based on attributes that counsel would attribute to certain people, based on immutable characteristics.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    The law in California is that you may not challenge folks peremptorily or otherwise based on certain criteria and they include include their sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, ethnic group, age, mental disability, physical disability, medical condition, genetic information, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, or similar grounds. Those are all illegal.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Those are all illegal reasons to peremptorily or otherwise challenge a juror. The bill that was passed in 2020 or became effective in 2020 also says that you can't use a subterfuge to basically disqualify someone for those illegal reasons. That was the law and it is the law with respect to criminal trials. This bill deals now with civil litigation and what it says is that the disqualification characteristics still apply.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    You still may not challenge someone based on these illegal presumptions, but that the other procedural elements to the bill do not apply except for and the bill will be amended except for actions that involve civil rights, hate crimes or other issues where racial disparity is an issue. It is supported by both defense counsel and by consumer attorneys and I urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Weber Pierson, you are recognized.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to start by expressing my sincere appreciation for the constructive and good faith dialogue between Senator Umberg, the bill sponsors, and the opposition. These discussions have led to meaningful progress and I acknowledge the importance of their efforts to include protection for civil rights litigation.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    In 2020, AB 3070, authored by then Assemblymember, now Secretary of State Dr. Shirley Weber, represented a landmark effort to confront discrimination in jury selection by addressing both conscious and unconscious bias in the use of preemptory challenges.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    That law rightfully recognized that discrimination, whether based on race, gender, sexual orientation, or other protected characteristics, has no place in jury selection, whether in criminal or civil trials. SB 645 as originally introduced, sought to indefinitely exclude civil trials from the protections of AB 3070 before they were even set to take effect in that context.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    In response to concerns raised, recent amendments to SB 645 have made a meaningful step. They now allow the anti-discrimination provisions of AB 3070 to apply in civil rights litigation and in a few other specific civil manners such as hate crimes and dependency proceedings. This is a welcome change.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Civil rights cases like those brought under the Unruh Civil Rights Act, Section 1983, the Voting Rights Act, and the Fair Housing Act must not be exempt from protections against bias jury selections, and I commend the author for recognizing that. However, the amendment still falls short.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Discrimination in jury selection does not begin and end with civil rights statutes alone. Many cases employment discrimination, housing discrimination not brought under federal law. Reproductive justice, disability discrimination, and other statutory prohibited forms of bias are still excluded in this bill.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    This bill continues to allow broad carve outs that undermine the comprehensive protections of AB 3070 intended to provide. This raises real concern about fairness and equal access to justice in all civil matters where discrimination may play a role. Jury selection is one of the most vulnerable entry points for bias in our judicial system.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    When attorneys are allowed to strike jurors without accountability, communities of color, women, elders, LGBTQ individuals, and others are too often excluded based on identity rather than impartiality. In today's political climate, where judicial Independence is increasingly under pressure, we must be especially diligent in protecting the rights of marginalized communities.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    We cannot allow the courtroom to become another form where discrimination is tolerated or overlooked. While I will support today this bill out of respect for the progress that it has been made, I want to be very clear this bill is not yet where it needs to be.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    My hope and expectation is for continued and meaningful dialogue, especially if it goes to the Assembly, around ensuring that all forms of statutorily prohibited discrimination are addressed. Otherwise, I will not be able to support it if it comes back on concurrence. So I remain hopeful that collaboration will lead to further improvements.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Again, I want to thank Senator Umberg and the bill sponsors for their constructive engagement and strongly urge that we continue to work for a version of SB 645 that truly lives up to the principles and fairness and equity that AB 3070 embodied. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Seeing no further discussion or debate. Senator Umberg, would you like to close?

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I am in violent agreement with my colleague from San Diego that peremptory challenges are born of bias. They're born of prejudice. Many states have absolutely eliminated peremptory challenges because that's exactly what they are. If it were up to me, we wouldn't have peremptory challenges because the they are used to craft a jury.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Not a fair jury, but a jury that supports your side. The challenge with that is, while I actually introduced a bill to eliminate all peremptory challenges, is that lawyers on all sides of the issue believe that they are experts in basically figuring out how to use peremptory challenges, including me. I'm often wrong, but I'm certain that I'm an expert. That would be the ultimate resolution. But in the meantime. In the meantime, I would ask you support SB 645 to circumscribe the use of periphery challenges. Urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, with your violent agreement, we will take a peaceful vote. Secretary, please call the roll. Folks, this is actually eligible for. This item is eligible for unanimous roll call. Any objection? Seeing no objection. Peacefully. Ayes 38, noes 0. This measure passes. Yeah. Okay. We will move to item 25. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 472 by Senator Stern. An act relating to pupil instructions.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you- you are recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President. Members, since 1985, the Education Code is required that when we're teaching about World War II in our- in our classrooms, that the largest ever mass slaughter in modern history of people is taught.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    The Holocaust is specifically mentioned as requiring particular emphasis in Section 51220 of the Education Code. It's not often that we have to bring legislation to remind people of what's already in the law.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    But in this case, unfortunately, given the- the politics of today, there are some people who are simply editing that part of history out and finding it too politically uncomfortable to talk about the Holocaust and the in the context of World War II history or in the context of broader education about genocide and inhumanity.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    So this bill would send a reminder out to school districts to remind them that the law does require for the Holocaust to be taught and also provides a grant framework so that those schools who may not have the resources, who may have other reasons that are- that are impeding them from doing so, can not just help with their teachers or their administrators, but also if they want to rely on, you know, nonprofits.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    If- If folks from a district that doesn't have any Jewish students wants to go to the Museum of Tolerance and know what that is, that they won't be denied that opportunity. So we think this is important legislation. Respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wiener, you are recognized.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President. I rise personally and also as co chair of our Legislative Jewish Caucus in strong support of SB 472.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    I want to thank the author for his consistent steadfast year after year after year work on making sure that young people in California know what the Holocaust is, in addition to other genocides that have happened. Because we know that if something is not taught, people forget.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    And we know that there is an active world of Holocaust denial and Holocaust revisionism on this planet. We just saw the other day that with- with our President's support, a new President was elected in Poland who was a Holocaust revisionists.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    We have seen in this country Holocaust denial, and it's really terrifying and it's so important for our kids to be taught. I also want to say that we've seen from some of the opposition to this bill. I think we need to remember that when other bills are being opposed that they're opposing a basic Holocaust education bill.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Alvarado-Gil, you are recognized.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. On behalf of the California Legislative Hispanic Caucus, I rise in support of this bill. I want to thank the author for bringing awareness to a very important issue- issue of our history. I think identity and cultural heritage is such an important aspect of educating our children.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    And we certainly have seen around the world the devastation that has happened to the Jewish people year after year, decade after decade. And so the history is also current time and in coming together to support the very fabric of who we are as Americans. So thank you for bringing this forward. And we ask for a support.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    Aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Padilla, you are recognized.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President. Colleagues, I rise in strong support just to remind our esteemed body that knowledge is a source of power, evolution and growth, individually, intellectually, spiritually and otherwise.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    And we do have a deficit now, globally and in this country that is rooted in a growing chasm of ignorance, an unfamiliarity by the future, our children and our grandchildren about our past.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    It is vitally important that we open up opportunities for this country for future generations to understand the difficult truths that must be confronted, lest we repeat them.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    I also would point to recent examples that flow from that ignorance of violence and discrimination proliferate in this country in recent days and weeks targeted against the Jewish community, which I strongly condemn in every possible way. This is the right step in the right direction and arise in strong support.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I, too, rise in support of SB 472 and thank the author for bringing it forward. And I hadn't prepared remarks or wanted to comment on this, but I do want to address something that my good colleague from San Francisco said, that there are deniers and revisionists.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I've shared often on this floor, that my father was not a good man. And part of that was because he was a medic that went into concentration camps in World War II to rescue individuals out of concentration camps. And they had. I have. Actually, my brother has them because I gave them to him.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    But thousands of photos of what my father saw that haunted him for the rest of his life or till he died, that are available to anybody who believes that this did not happen. And they are some of the most cruel, horrific looking photos that you could ever possibly imagine.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And once you see them, you can never unsee them. And it's- it's a disgrace and an abomination to humanity that humans could be that evil to other human beings. And so I thank the author for bringing this bill forward and ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Perez, you are recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I rise as the chair of the Senate Education Committee to acknowledge the incredible work that the author has done on this bill, SB 472. This is an important piece of legislation because it would provide an opportunity as well as resources for schools that do not currently provide Holocaust education, those who want to maybe further provide that education, as well as more broadly education around genocide.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    We know that there are many different genocide events that have happened throughout history that are relevant to all sorts of our diverse populations throughout California. For myself In Senate District 25, I represent one of the largest, actually the largest Armenian community in the State of California.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I know that my constituents are incredibly supportive of SB 472 because it provides an opportunity for schools and for teachers who want to provide more resources around the Armenian genocide to be able to do so. We know so many of our schools, of our teachers are facing issues with funding, facing issues with resources.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The author's done an excellent job of actually building in a program so to better inform these districts about where they can gain these resources through nonprofits and community groups who want to ensure that history is never erased. And so I thank the author for his tremendous work that he's done around this.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    He's worked in partnership with my committee consultants and staff and have been really impressed with his leadership in this space to make sure that we are talking about these tragic events that have happened throughout history, whether it is the Holocaust, whether it is Armenian genocide, the to ensure that we're educating our young people.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    So thank you and urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Arreguin, you are recognized on this support support bill.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I'll be brief in light of that, but I also stand in strong support of SB 472 and thank my colleague from Los Angeles for bringing this important bill forward. Many of my colleagues talked about why this is such an important bill.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    This isn't just around Holocaust education, but education on genocide, which sadly, the genocide of the Holocaust wasn't the only mass genocide that has existed in our humanity or continues to exist in our humanity. And to put this in context, Senator Padilla touched on this.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    The unprovoked, violent and vicious attacks against Jewish Americans in our country, the murder of two individuals outside of the an event in Washington, D.C. and the recent attack that happened in Colorado are a prime example why this is important. And just last month we recognized Holocaust Remembrance Day here in the floor of the Senate.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    We had Holocaust survivors bravely come to stand with us in recognition of this atrocity and to say that never again should be never again. And they are a prime example that this did happen. So it's important that we educate our children in California about what happened so that this does never happen again.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Wahab. You're recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I want to thank the good Senator from, I'm going to say the LA area and appreciate him bringing this forward. I think some of the colleagues that have mentioned that genocides have happened prior to the Holocaust and also after, and it seems like society still doesn't understand from the tragedies of the past.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    So I respectfully support this bill. I appreciate and applaud the author. I'm hoping that we can also expand language to include a little bit of information about some of the other genocides that are happening and they are happening today as well. And I want to highlight how important it is to support this bill.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Also because of the fact that we have been seeing a rise in anti Semitism. There is no denying that. When two individuals are assassinated right outside of the embassy, when there are people throwing Molotov cocktails at individuals, when people are spurning hate.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And I want to highlight this because I think it's incredibly important to speak out against all hates of any form to any people based on their identity.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And so I think that this type of education and the support to ensure that we continue to educate and teach younger people to not make the mistakes of the past is incredibly important. I do just want to acknowledge that. I hope that it does expand to some degree.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    But I again respectfully request an aye vote and I thank the author. Thank you.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Allen, you are recognized.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Just a quick comment. I obviously agree with all the comments that have been made by my colleagues, but I just want to take a moment to just recognize the leadership of our colleague, the author, on this topic. He's been working so hard on this issue for a long time.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    We all know this is an issue that's close to so many of our hearts, but it's especially close to his, the son in law of a Holocaust survivor. And he's been just dogged in his work, striking, you know, the right tone, the compromises, the challenges that this bill has faced. He's been just a great leader on this topic and.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    And I want to commend him and congratulate him on- on the momentum this Bill. It's a very important bill has and I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Cabaldon, you are recognized.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Doctor President. In committee, we heard a lot of comments about this bill about all the other genocides that should be covered and should be taught. But this is fundamentally- this bill is about education, it's about schools, and there are many former teachers and professors on this floor who understand you cannot teach all of anything.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We make choices. Our curriculum frameworks say that you just can't graduate from a Spanish class without learning how to say mother in law's cousin. Like, you have to know that. But we're not telling you how to say PFAS in Spanish. Right. You make choices.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    The Pythagorean theorem, which is probably the only geometry related equation that most of us think we at one point knew, that's not the most important mathematical equation in the entire planet. But we can't teach all the mathematical equations on the planet.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so what I appreciate about this bill is it's really focused on how the Holocaust, number one, the Holocaust is exceptional. But two, it is also the anchor of a curriculum that helps young people think and make meaning and- and exercise critical thinking about genocide in- in general. It's not about teaching every single one.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    It's instead finding- finding the stories that can mean something to young people and that they can then assess and evaluate and judge and participate in society in a way that makes sure that other genocides don't happen.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So I very much appreciate the author's commitment to the issue as the Center for San Juan Convention, but also in doing so in a way that really is attentive to how this plays out for real kids in school that need to learn and need to be able to carry these lessons into the next generation.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Rubio, you are recognized.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam President. Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, I also rise in strong support of this bill as not only a colleague, but as a Member of the Legislative Jewish Caucus. And I do also want to take a moment to recognize the author.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    I know how long this bill has been in the works and how much work we've put into trying to ensure that it's thoughtful and that we listen to people. And I just want to say we know all the challenges that he's had, not only here, but in the other House. But finally it's here.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    And I just want to rise also as a teacher, I think it's important that we give teachers the tools. This is about education, doing it in a way that's factual, it's respectful. To me, the biggest line of defense in society against hate and antisemitism and everything else that our kids are dealing with is education.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    That it has the information at their fingertips, not what we hear outside. But I just want to say we have to do better. We have to be factual. And I don't want to repeat what my colleague just said, but really we could teach everything. And it's not about everything else, but we can take steps.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    But this issue in particular is important, important to all of us. So I just want to say thank you and I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no further discussion or debate, Senator Stern, would you like to close?

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    I appreciate all the remarks in my comments. Despite the support support, the fact that the Senate's willing to have this conversation, debate should be a signal to the rest of the state that we're serious about telling the truth in our history.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    And that a bill about Holocaust and genocide is not just a bill about what the Jewish people experienced or the Cambodian people experienced or the Armenian people experienced, but it's- it's teaching young people to ask questions about who they are and where they come from.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    And it's amazing to have on this floor your father, grandfather, the people who liberated my father in law. We all sort of inherit this shared history. And I think it's going to open up and build different bridges that maybe don't exist right now. Maybe have people realize how much more they have in common.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    So with that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Senator Stern moves the call. We will now move to file item 27, SB 569, by Senator Blakespear.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 569 by Senator Blakespear. An act relating to highways.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear, you are recognized.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam President. Colleagues, I rise to present SB 569, which will direct Caltrans to improve the efficiency of its processes for working with cities in managing homeless encampments on property adjacent to state highways. Currently in my district, the City of San Diego. Thank you.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Receives over 300 complaints a month regarding homeless encampments located on state highways, which only Caltrans has the authority to address. Caltrans response to these complaints is often delayed by weeks and sometimes even months. Cities up and down the state report the same problem.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    These cities have made significant efforts to align their encampment resolution programs with Governor Newsom's policy directives. But they run into coordination issues when they try to work with Caltrans to address the encampments on highways that run through the center of their communities.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Caltrans should be linking arms with our cities to address encampments and to be working expeditiously to move people indoors in order to get to functional zero in street homelessness. SB 569 will require Caltrans to establish timelines for responding to requests and to prioritize encampments that pose environmental risks like wildfire. In most parts of the state, cities have existing relationships with nonprofits and service providers. We want Caltrans to easily plug into these systems that exist already in communities.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    This bill would make our highways safer for everyone and would create a better relationship between the state agency that is Caltrans and the cities and counties that are on the front lines of homelessness. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Arreguin, you are recognized at your desk.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Dr. President. I also rise in strong support of SB 569 and I strongly support this bill based on my own experience as the former mayor of Berkeley who had a long standing encampment on Caltrans right of way. And it took us years to get Caltrans attention, let alone their cooperation to remove this very hazardous encampment that posed a risk to the unhoused people that were living there as well as the broader community.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    And so this bill is really essential to one have us single contact for cities that need to need the assistance of Caltrans to address encampments on state right of way, to develop and support the implementation of of department delegated maintenance agreements to ensure that if Caltrans is not going to maintain the right of way, there's an agreement to allow the jurisdiction to do that and hopefully some cost sharing as well.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    And lastly, to ensure there's some reporting and accountability about the implementation of this. The governor has obviously said very clearly that he would like to see hazardous encampments addressed on straight freeways and rights of way. This requires a partnership with the state and with local government and with county government as well. I think this bill is an important step forward and respectfully, as for an aye vote and would like to be considered as a co-author when this moves to the Assembly. Thank you.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Durazo, you are recognized.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Yes. I rise to support SB 569, but I want to take advantage of the moment to give a big shout out to Caltrans in my district, District 7, who do a phenomenal job of cleanup and making sure that they respond right away with all of the requests from within our area. And that means a lot to the Californians in my area. So I want to take advantage of the moment and thank them very, very much. District 7, thank you.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Cortese, you are recognized.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam President. I do rise in support of SB 569 and as Chair of the Senate Transportation Committee, we work together well with the author on trying to align the bill with Caltrans policies in a way that would integrate with with the local jurisdictions. And I think the balance is there. Author will certainly have a chance to refine that some more in the other House as necessary, if necessary.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I also just want to point out that just as an example, in our county, Santa Clara County, most of which is dominated especially in terms of freeway interchanges and so forth, by the City of San Jose as the county seat, Caltrans has a maintenance crew of four full-time equivalent individuals to do that entire county right to deal with this issue in the entire county.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    So on the one hand, it certainly merits looking for partnerships with the locals to try to augment that effort. But if we really want Caltrans to do more, I haven't seen it in any way, shape or form as malfeasance or lack of energy on Caltrans part.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    We, we just need in a non-deficit year to beef up that part of the budget and you know, double down on, on the number of FTE that we're giving them so that they can cover all the ground we're asking them to cover. I think at some point that's what we need to do as well. But as I said, I do urge an aye vote on the bill.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Wahab, you're recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I will be laying off of this bill primarily. I want to highlight a couple of things. Number one, this bill did not go through the Housing Committee, but I also understand the Senator's effort to kind of improve coordination and collaboration in addressing our homeless crisis within the agencies and jurisdictions, which tends to be a problem.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    For example, in my district, oftentimes people complain about the underpass of a free way and that's all Caltrans responsibility versus, you know, our local cities. So there tends to be mix ups and misinformation, spread and misunderstandings.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    The concern that I have primarily is I do believe that there needs to be a little bit more change of language and I'm hoping that the author will consider that as it moves into the next house regarding Caltrans working with personnel also of the cities, not just focusing on the policy because there are some cities that may not have a policy.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And so what is the default, right, and being able to set some again minimum standards when we are dealing with different jurisdictions, as I've always stated in California, and giving dignity to the homeless population, which I think is incredibly important. So I will respectfully lay off today, but I'm hoping that this bill comes with those adjustments. Thank you.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no further discussion or debate. Senator Blakespear, would you like to close?

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you. I very much appreciate the comments of my colleagues on this bill. I mean what it shows is we have someone who came previously just months ago from being the mayor of the City of Berkeley and his experiences doing that and another Senator who said that her Caltrans district is doing a great job with encampments and another concern about cities that don't have any encampment resolution policies.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    I mean what it really reflects is and as well the good Senator from San Jose reflecting on his experiences as well, what it reflects to me is the great variety of responses from this executive branch agency that is Caltrans.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And it's notable that the governor stood stands on the Caltrans right of way and does press conferences that say cleaning up trash, saying this is a crisis, dammit, act like it. And then we have such unevenness between districts around the relationships with cities and also how encampments are managed.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Now I recognize that Caltransit's main mission of course is transportation. It's not homelessness management. But this is one of our top issues in the State of California. We which is what voters tell us, which is what polling tells us, which is what the floor debates in the last two days also reflect.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And so it's very important that this major agency of Caltrans, which is in a lot of ways the public interacts with the state agency of Caltrans because they drive on the freeways every single day. So it's very important that we establish relationships that are positive, that are working toward the same goal, that are aligned. And so this bill is aimed at trying to create a framework for that. And of course I'll continue to work on it to make it as acceptable and as proactive as possible. And with that I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [Roll call]

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear moves the call. Senators, on behalf of Senator Allen, please welcome Rosa Serratore with the California Mathematics Council. Rosa is Senator Allen's former 8th grade teacher. Welcome to the Senate. Okay, what grades did he get? No, I'm just kidding. All right. We will now move to file item 28, SB 596 by Senator Menjivar. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 596 by Senator Menjivar. An act relating to health facilities.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar, you are recognized.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam President. Colleagues, for over two years, the State of California, over two decades, I apologize. The State of California has had nurse patient ratios. SB 596 is not looking to add a new policy, but is looking to strengthen this two decade old ratio.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    And then back in 2019, this Legislature passed a bill to impose fines on hospitals if they were violating those nurse to patient ratios. Again, SB 596 is not looking to add or increase those penalties. Those already exist in our statute. What SB 596 is looking to do is define the phrase on-call list.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    So back in 2019 when the penalty bill was passed, this Legislature considered that, hey, we should give hospitals an ability to avoid a penalty if they exhausted the means to fill the their nurses to maintain the nurse to patient ratio. So the body said, okay, hospital, you won't get a fine if you call an on-call list.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    However, we never defined what an on-call list means. So a hospital could say, oh well, I don't need, I can't get the penalty because I called my on-call list. And that could be just one nurse. I don't think that's exhausting the on-call list intention of 2019.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    So SB 596 wants to define that to say that the hospital needs to call 10% of their nursing staff to be considered a waive for the penalty. The 10% right now can include the entire staff of the hospital. And that's not my intent. That's a really, really long list. So just last week, I submitted draft amendments to CHA to say my intention of the 10% is to mean 10% of the nurses that were scheduled on that day within each hospital unit. It is the last remaining concern of CHA.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Once they agree and they're meeting with their legislative body tomorrow, we are going to be moving in the right direction. And that will be amended in the Assembly. And that is their last outstanding standing concern with this bill. So, again, nurse patient ratios exist already in California. Penalties already exist in California.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    This bill is looking to just define what an on-call list is, and it's that 10%. Once we get here, back from CHA, if they're good with the language, we'll move forward with it. If they want to tweak it again, we'll move forward with that.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Because I have already committed that I don't want to increase the burdens to our hospitals. I just want to make sure the hospitals, nurses, and our departments know what the definition of an on-call list is. With that, respectfully asking for an aye vote.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no further discussion or debate, Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [Roll call]

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar moves the call. Senators, we will now move to file item 29, SB 614 by Senator Stern.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 614 by Senator Stern. An act relating to greenhouse gases.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Stern, you are recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you, Dr. President. This bill seeks to resolve an issue that we thought was going to be sorted federally. But at this point, we think it's important to establish some minimum state safety standards for how carbon dioxide can be transported in this state.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    There are a number of really important projects that we need to get online if we're going to meet our climate goals. We had some major setbacks in the last week where further federal funding was cut to cement and concrete facilities that are trying to sequester carbon while they produce that cement.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    They lost several $100 million in funding. So I think the least we can do is start to give this burgeoning industry some certainty about the standards that they'll be subject to if they want to invest millions, hundreds of millions, and potentially billions of dollars in getting our state online.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    So this would supplant the existing regulations with the new process from the Office of State Fire Marshal and also include explicit requirement that CEQA, the Water Quality Control Act, and other applicable state, local, and land use laws also apply to new pipeline construction for the transportation of CO2.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    That there would be a public process around that, as well as an advisory committee to receive ongoing input and a civil penalty structure that allows the marshal to order a shutdown for violations that pose a threat to health and safety. At this point, there aren't federal regulations on the books.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    So if we don't do anything right now, it's a completely unregulated arena. So we think that while there are some concerns outstanding from some in environmental community who might be skeptical of the carbon capture sector, we think that at minimum, California has to set the gold standard for how we do these things. And I believe that it's time. This bill has been an effort in collaboration with an Assembly vehicle led by Chair of Assembly Energy, Ms. Petrie-Norris, and would respectfully ask your aye vote.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Becker, you are recognized.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Yeah. I want to thank my colleague for picking up the ball on this. This is a critical piece of legislation. We've been for a couple years now waiting for this issue to get resolved. And again, I appreciate him taking this on. We can't not only capture, we can't do carbon removal if we can't do the transport.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And basically every other state has CO2 pipelines. And this will make California once again the gold standard and create a safe way to do this. And again, it's critical that we do do so, so we have a chance of meeting our climate goals. Thank you.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Grove. Okay. Seeing no further discussion or debate, Senator Stern, would you like to close?

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll call]

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Stern moves the call. Members, we will be taking a few more bills before we go to lunch. Lunch will only be 30 minutes. And I have also been informed that we are averaging about five bills an hour. So let's please be mindful of our comments and be concise, especially with our support support bills. So we will now move to file item 31, SB 701, by Senator Wahab.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 701 by Senator Wahab. An act relating to crimes.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I rise today to present SB 701. This bill aligns state and federal law to allow state and local law enforcement to take take action against signal jammers. Signal jammers block a wide variety of critical communication, including Wi-Fi, radio, Bluetooth, and more. They've been used in burglaries and car thefts across the country. They're also high risk for terrorist threats, which is especially relevant with major international sports events coming to California in the next year.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    While they are repeatedly illegal or already legal under federal law and Federal Communications Commission rules, SB 701 would allow local law enforcement to take direct action, reducing our reliance on federal authorities. This bill received bipartisan support and pass Senate Public Safety on a unanimous vote. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no further discussion or debate. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll call]

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab moves the call. We will now move to file item 33, SB 777 by Senator Richardson.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 777 by Senator Richardson. An act relating to cemeteries.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Senator Richardson, you are recognized.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam President. Well, members, I've learned a lot on this subject with which has to do with cemeteries that I certainly didn't plan on, but I think you'll find very helpful. The Private Cemeteries Act regulates the ownership, control, and maintenance of private cemeteries in the state.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Currently, the Consumer Bureau is the one that's responsible to hold the endowment funds, which include the principal and interest of an abandoned cemetery. And it maintains the contracts for burial, but it is not responsible for the care and maintenance of those cemeteries. Now let me.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    I'm going to divert a little bit to save us a little time here. Currently, in the State of California, we have six abandoned cemeteries. Four more are on the list. There are a total of 187 that are possible. What you see in front of you is what's happening in abandoned cemeteries. Grass gets as high as your hip.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Gates are locked, people can't see their loved ones. Gravestones are being removed for metal and horribly, even worse, crypts are being opened, which I showed you a picture of. That's an abandoned cemetery in my district. It's not a movie, it's real. So what we did was we said, okay, we gotta deal with this.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    And so I thought, let's give it to the cities and counties. That's where they're licensed. They have Parks and Rec. They should be able to mow the lawn. But it became, it had great objection. And through that I learned that we actually have a process. It's called public cemetery districts.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    And typically what happens when a cemetery is abandoned, the consumer bureau notifies LAFCO and LAFCO then works with the city and the county and they review an application. And what they do is they take that cemetery. And now with this bill, SB 777 will now either evaluate it and take an abandoned cemetery and annex into an existing public cemetery district, or they will create a new one.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    So what happened was we were able to successfully remove objections from the cities because while we're asking them to do, which is the current process, which is refer to LAFCO, who LAFCO then ultimately determines putting it in a public cemetery district, no longer responsible for a city or county for any money associated.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    So how are we going to pay for these abandoned cemeteries? The abandoned cemeteries the 6 that we have all have endowments. I believe the gentleman from San Diego had asked me that question. The problem is not all endowments are sufficient.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    In my district, a cemetery has $1 million endowment, which means it results in about $3,000 a month in interest. That's not enough to take care of a cemetery. So what we're doing is individuals who run this type of business, people who do cremations, burials, embalming and so on.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    We've looked at the fees which hadn't been increased until two years ago for 25 years. We've looked at those fees, increased them. We'll be doing those amendments in the Assembly. And I included a copy of them for you. That money will generate money into perpetuity so that there's money to pay for the ongoing maintenance that's required.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Ladies and gentlemen, we will all be one day, unfortunately, at the behest of hoping that someone like us will make a decision to say it's not okay to have people where crypts are being opened and gravestones are being removed, and worse, our loved ones can't visit us.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Attached in the packet that I provided you is to show you that LAPCO, which is the key to this whole process, has in fact removed their opposition and now is in the position of neutral. And we worked with LAFCO to develop the amendments which we will present in the Assembly. So I respectfully ask for your aye vote so we can now have a process that we can say in the State of California, takes care of the dead. With that, I ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no microphones up for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 36, noes 0. Measure passes. We will move to item 34.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 834 by Senator Durazo. An act relating to criminal records.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Durazo, you're recognized.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. SB 834 is a technical fix to improve implementation of California's automatic record clearance laws. The bill does not expand eligibility. It ensures that people already eligible can access the relief current law provides. This bill prevents one outdated pending criminal charges from blocking automatic conviction record relief.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    It requires local courts records to be updated to match the State Department of Justice records, and it establishes a clear process for individuals to provide written proof of relief. This bill offers practical, targeted changes that ensure the laws we've already passed function as the legislature intended. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no microphones raised for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 28, noes 9. The measure passes. Members, we will take the Senate Dems affordability package in special order after lunch, so please stay in the building. Lunch is only 30 minutes and the clock starts now.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I would like to thank my wife for 37 wonderful years of marriage. She truly is a survivalist. And members we have. Yes, I'm a newlywed to you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Niello. Members, we have only gone through a handful of bills and through the first few hours that we've already been here, we need to make sure in order to pick up the pace, we need to make sure we keep our comments concise to the point and speak as needed.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    And please be concise on your bill presentations as well. Thank you for your affirmation, Senator Laird. I appreciate that. And we have actually so much time that senators are actually making up graphs on our progress and the line is going down and not up. That is not good.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    So having said that, we are going to move to item 35. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 14 by Senator Blakespear. An act relating to solid waste.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you may present.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you Mr. President. I rise today to present SB 14, a measure that would position California State agencies and operations as a leader for waste reduction in the circular economy. Every day California sends 12,000 tons of plastic to landfills, enough to fill 219 Olympic sized swimming pools.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Across the US only 5 to 6% of plastic was recycled in 2021. Waste that isn't sent to landfills often ends up polluting communities and the environment. Single use plastics are among the most extractive, wasteful and harmful products in our society.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    One way to tackle the problem and reduce the enormous flow of waste is to move to a circular economy which is which focuses on recycling products and reusing.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    SB 14 leverages the state's considerable purchasing power to support recycling markets by requiring that all state contracts for single use plastic bottles moving forward must be for bottles that have at least 90% post consumer recycled content. Post consumer recycled content is material that has been discarded and is then cleaned and processed and turned into new products.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    It's basically plastic recycled. SB 14 puts state agencies at the forefront of the circular economy, ahead of the statewide goals for post consumer recycled content in plastic bottles that was established in AB 793 by Assemblymember Ting in 2021. The bill is narrow in scope.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    The 90% post consumer recycled content requirement for bottles at state agencies does not apply to bottles that are purchased for emergencies, water bottles sold at prison canteens or given to pregnant women in prison milk or 100% fruit juice cartons like milk cartons or boxed water.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And it also does not apply to the CSUs or the UCS which already have goals to move away from single use plastic bottles entirely- entirely. The number of plastic bottles sold at state facilities are just a small fraction of the nearly 12 billion single use plastic bottles consumed in California every year.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    However, even though only a small fraction of bottles are sold at state facilities, setting ambitious post consumer recycled content goals for state bottles can help develop and support existing post consumer recycled content infrastructure, which will need to be ramped up to meet statewide post consumer recycling goals.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Companies like Coca Cola already sell 100% post consumer recycled content bottles here in California and in fact right here in the state capitol. And SB 14 will help create a predictable market for these bottles that already exist today.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    In addition to setting ambitious post consumer recycled content requirements for plastic bottles in state facilities, SB 14 also requires state agencies to take more measures to reduce waste and to recycle plastic and organic material as part of the Integrated Waste Management Plan.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Right now, each state agency is responsible for developing an integrated waste management plan to to divert 50% of the waste generated at state facilities from landfills. SB 14 advances the goal of the State Agency Waste Management Plan to specifically achieve 50% reusable foodware by 2030 and reducing paper purchasing by 30% by 2030.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    SB 14 also updates the Integrated Waste Management Plan to require actions to provide adequate educational tools to inform state agency employees on how to properly sort materials for composting and recycling and ensuring that recyclable and organic materials reach responsible end markets so that they don't end up in the landfill when they're not supposed to.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Additionally, it prioritizes reducing and reusing products where feasible. And with that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no- Seeing a microphone up. Senator McNerney, you are recognized.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I'm rising to talk about this bill a little bit. Basically, we've heard a lot of input on this and there's a concern about how it's going to affect prices and all, but there's too much plastic in the oceans. There's too much plastic in our landfills. We need to start being more thoughtful about this.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    I've talked to the author of this bill and I want to thank her for bringing this up. And I think there's willing to compromise on how to make this more practical.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    And because of that, I'm going to support it with the understanding that when it goes to the other house and comes back, we'll have something that I think a lot of people can support. So I thank you for bringing this forward and I ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Cortese, you're recognized.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I do rise in support of SB 14. If the author would be willing and the presider would allow, I'd like to ask a question.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Sure.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    One of the things that we've heard here, which does make some sense to me is that this could cause a logjam in terms of procurement or downstream impact in terms of- of looking at the entire state system. We've even heard that community colleges or, you know, entities outside of the main administration of state government could be impacted.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Could you speak to that? I just would like to get clear on the record as to what the bill will do in that regard or not do.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Yes, thank you for the question. The CSUs are excluded, as are the UCs. They each have their own single use plastic and overall plastic management approach. And we're not the goal- the goal of this bill is not to have to create a separate stream or the creation of a different product that is not currently being made.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    It's these products are being made and there are, you can buy in the grocery store now 100% recycled plastic water bottles or Coca Cola or Pepsi sell them and they say 100% recycled plastic on there. So the product is being made and there is an entire system for getting recycled plastic into those bottles.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    So it's just to make it more ambitious.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Just a follow up question. So you are confident that the procurement schedule that you have in the bill can be met?

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Absolutely.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Valladares, you are recognized.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. And I just rise in respectable opposition of SB 14. This is going to likely dramatically increase the cost of the contracts to the state at a time when the General Fund is already upside down.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    And as we're talking about cutting programs, we shouldn't be passing bills that are going to increase the cost to the state. And I respectfully urge a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Cabaldon, you are recognized.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. As the chair of the Budget Subcommitee that oversees the state agency and the procurement processes, I want to acknowledge that the author is- has been committed to solving these issues. We don't have the money for radical- for radical changes in the amount of money that we're spending on these beverages.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But as Coca Cola said that all of their 20 ounce versions of every product will be recycled plastic. Smart Water is moving to 100% recycled plastic.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We'll be working together with the author in the coming weeks in the assembly to assure that we get the details right, to assure that doesn't result in significant, any significant state costs and instead that we're able to help use the state's market position to leverage the continued evolution of the market. Urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senators. Seeing no other mics up for discussion or debate Senator Blakespear, you may- you may close.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you to my colleagues for their comments and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senate Senator Choi?

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Choi, Aye to No.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear moves to call. And we will now move to item 37. Secretary please read.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Ashby, you are recognized.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 50 by Senator Ashby and act related to connected devices.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    Mr. President, I rise to present SB50, victims digital safety Act. The bill adds a crucial layer of protection for victims by requiring tech companies. To swiftly cut off an abuser's access. To Internet connected devices. The bill enjoys bipartisan support and no opposition. Respectfully asked for an aye vote and.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no microphones up for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Ashby moves the call. We will move to item 38. Secretary, please read.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 84 by Senator Niello. An act relating to disability access.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Niello, you are recognized.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate the opportunity to present SB84, which provides small businesses an opportunity to fill fix construction related Ada violations before penalties can be applied. This Bill gets to the heart of the purpose of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Finding deficiencies in buildings, building construction, and providing for the entity to actually fix the defect and thus making the facility more accessible for all. Here's the current situation. Opportunistic. Thank you, Mr. President. Opportunistic lawyers often target businesses in marginalized communities with large populations of immigrants whose first language is not English.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    These individuals are generally less familiar with the American legal system, have less trust in it, and are highly likely to settle these frankly meritless cases out of fear. Fear. Regardless of whether they actually violated the Ada, they simply believe they have no other option. Here's some additional some interesting statistics. In 1921.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Excuse me, I went back a little bit too far. When my grandfather opened up his Packard dealership. In 2021, Ada litigation in the U.S. district Court for Northern District of California tripled from 2020. Of the suits filed, nearly 85% were from one law firm.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    It's estimated that this firm's earnings on the ADA litigation was over $60 million 2018 through 2022. That's about $12 million a year.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    This problem is evidenced by there being more disability access suits filed in California than the rest of the other 49 states combined in 2021, with just a handful of plaintiffs filing thousands of suits and the problems getting worse.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Existing law requires a plaintiff attorney to submit construction related disability access complaints and pre litigation letters to the California Commission on Disability Access. The most recent published data from 2023 showed an increase of over 1600 complaints than the year before for approximately 4600 total cases alleging more than 10 violations.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    The trend, unfortunately, is going in the wrong direction. SB84 provides a reasonable solution to small businesses, 50 employees or less, targeted by unscrupulous bad actors for a path to improve their business, if a defect even exists at all. The claim that businesses will not have the incentive to be proactively compliant is without merit.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Businesses not only want to serve many as many customers as possible, they also will face quick backlash if their facility is inaccessible. SB84 strikes a balance between protecting the rights of the disabled to have physical access while also protecting the rights of business owners to have meaningful access to justice, equal representation, and being protected against meritless litigation.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Small businesses are hoping for a chance, a chance to improve access for all over closing their doors. A chance to fight meritless lawsuits and settlements instead of handling handing over their hard earned dollars because they were an unsuspecting target of a shakedown. A chance, quite frankly, to pursue the American dream. I respectfully ask an Aye vote.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Senator Ashby, you are recognized.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    Thank you. I rise in support of SB84. I think this is an incredibly important bill. Small businesses, as we know, represent at a minimum 40% of our workforce across. The State of California. They are one of the backbones for jobs across the great state. I think it is a carefully crafted bill by the Senator from Fair Oaks.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    I urge an Aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear, you are recognized.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you. I also rise in support of this bill and think it is very reasoned. It is important that we recognize that there are a number of small businesses.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    I've heard from dozens of small businesses over many years in government who have expressed that they want to cure the violation and they end up in a lawsuit that they need to settle for tens of thousands of dollars. So this Bill gives four months, 120 days to cure, which is essentially like a right to repair that.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    We've given a requirement for all sorts of other types of products for businesses to be able to fix a problem before they end up in a Lawsuit. This is a reasoned approach. It is, frankly, very modest, and I appreciate the author for bringing it, and I urge an Aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Laird, you are recognized.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Is there a problem here? Yes, a significant one. I voted for this in Committee because I wanted to give the author a chance to work on it. One of the Central Provisions gives 120 day right to cure for the businesses in question.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    There is strong concern among the advocates that the businesses will step back from adhering to the law because they have the right to cure and that they will wait until the right to cure to actually address the issue. And I believe there is some merit to that criticism.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    So today, once again, I will vote to advance this bill. But I think it is very important that the author address this issue in the Assembly and that if it comes back here, that be addressed in a way that it can assure the advocates that there's a way to do a cure. But it's not a process for.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    For ducking out of the law initially. So, believe it or not, I'm asking for an Aye vote, but I am asking for the author to address this issue when it's in the Assembly.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Durazo, you are recognized.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise with serious concerns about SB 84. The Ada has been the law for nearly 35 years, and the only way. To enforce disability rights is to bring lawsuits. This process is already a major challenge, especially for disabled people who cannot afford. An attorney or are not sure what the rights actually are.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    According to the Ada. For many decades, they have fought hard. To win their basic human rights, and this fundamentally will limit their ability to enforce disability rights laws. After leading the country, California has been. Leading the country on disabilities and civil rights. This bill will go in the wrong direction. For these reasons, I cannot support the bill.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Perez. You are recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of SB84 and want to thank the author for bringing this measure forward. I actually discovered SB84 after talking with some of my own constituents.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I was meeting with a group of small business owners in my district, and they raised these concerns to me, and particularly for those business owners who do not speak English, who are immigrants, and who don't necessarily understand all of the complexities of these Ada laws.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And many of them who are restaurant owners, they're small shop owners, have been targeted with these lawsuits. One business owner that I spoke to in Monterey Park was almost pushed to the point of bankruptcy.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    In another case, I was actually shopping for furniture for my home and began having a conversation with the business owner who shared with me that he was in the middle of one of these suits and he didn't even realize that his location was not up to Ada compliance. And he is actually very beloved in the community.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This is a very popular location that's existed for now about two generations and has been targeted with one of these lawsuits. And it has created so much stress and concern for him because he is a small business owner now.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    One of the things that I think was really shocking about this is in addition to being sued, he was also forced to sign an NDA.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And so when I told him I wanted to do something about this, he immediately told me, please make sure you, you don't share my name, please make sure that you don't share my business. I don't want to get in trouble.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And to think that someone that's trying to do their best operate a business isn't attacked in this way and not able to share with anyone for fear that they're going to face further economic damages is pretty absurd. I come from a long line of restaurant owners.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    My family owns Manuel Zo Tapiac and Boyle Heights, a very famous Mexican restaurant. My father owned the Taco Room. And I remember just how difficult it was for my dad to operate a small business while also working as an electrician. I think this is a very common sense measure.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I know that the advocates would still like to see some changes. I trust that the author is going to continue to have discussions with those folks. But we do need a remedy here to allow for our small businesses to be targeted in this way. Is is really not a fair approach. So urge an Aye vote.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And appreciate the author again for all of his work here.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I too rise in support of SB84. I know that there is a balance that needs to be struck where those that are need to be Ada compliant are compliant.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    But we also have a lot of litigant attorneys that pursue businesses specifically in areas that are immigrant areas that don't understand the law, that are businesses. And I have an area in Bakersfield where there was a rash of LA attorneys that came over the hill and started filing lawsuits against our businesses in the community.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    They reached out to our office, this was four years ago, but we had several of them reach out to our office. They were being fined for a lawsuit and there's no right to cure, which this would be a perfect example of what a right to cure would be.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    When the individual went to the bathroom, the toilet paper roll was 18 of an inch too low. That does not deny someone access. That does not enable somebody not to have. It's just a measurement that was put up on a code section. And because of that, they were drawn out into litigation for almost nine months.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And the settlement was an atrocious amount, which almost caused them to go out of business. If they had the right to cure that, the owner, as gracious as he is, one of those good business owners, would have just walked in, raised that toilet paper roll, and the issue would have been solved.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Now, I'm not advocating for somebody to completely violate Ada rules, and we should make sure that everyone has accessibility to the businesses that are operated in the State of California. But there are chronic litigants and attorneys that do this on a daily basis.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I was just reading about one of them on the Internet, where the judge had fined the attorney and found him guilty of processing just multiple lawsuits against multiple businesses, specifically in the Los Angeles area, and impacting those businesses to such a negative degree that the judge finally took action against the attorney who was doing it and using the same litigant over and over and over again, which is a chronic litigant.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    So respectfully ask for an Aye vote on this bill, and let's address some of these things with the right to cure, not egregious, but just the simple right to cure that the author has brought forth.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Rubio, you are recognized.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. And ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, this is a really important issue. I know that it's really difficult to thread the needle and understand both sides clearly. I don't think anyone on this floor wants any rights for victims with disabilities to be violated.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    But I do know that the egregiousness of the lawsuits have really turned down some of our communities. There's been legal counselors just going from business to business, really just, you know, seeking out how they can sue our businesses. And I do have a lot of friends who belong to the Latino Business Women Association.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Every time we think of a lawsuit, we think anyone can sustain, but not when they're small businesses, not when these businesses are already struggling to stay afloat. And no, I don't believe that they intentionally want to violate laws, but just giving them the right to cure is so important.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    I have, you know, 10 more examples, as the great Senator from Bakersfield just stated, so minor, something that could have been cured so easily, and yet they dragged these businesses and for months into court. I mean, I know a couple that could not sustain the damages and ended up closing.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    So I think it's time to allow them a little grace to be able to fix the problem so that we can keep our businesses open, keep our people employed. And I think again with the sensitivity that we don't want anyone to violate, you know, any laws. Let's give them the ability to cure.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Wahab. You are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I want to thank the Senator for. Bringing this bill forward. I actually do support this bill. I know we have been in conversations since fall regarding this bipartisan effort. I do want to highlight that small.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Businesses have been taken advantage of and specifically pursued by law firms seeking to get a significant amount of dollars in damages. This bill has the spirit of informing. The business owner, hey, there's a problem and you get so many days to fix is not allowing people to skirt the issue. It is not allowing people to harm disabled.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    It is not allowing anything like that. It is simply to allow a business owner to understand that there, there is an issue and they have some time to fix it. I respectfully ask for an Aye vote. I know that the Senator will be continuously working to ensure that all concerns. Are addressed and I really appreciate it.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. With no other microphones raised for discussion or debate, we turn to Senator Niello for close.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. First of all, I very much appreciate the bipartisan support of comments, but also authorship on the bill itself.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    With regard to the comments of my friend from Santa Cruz, I do commit to continue to work and would hope that I could get to a point where the opposition would either support or drop their opposition, and we will continue to work in that direction.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    But I'd like to point out that this is limited to small businesses, 50 employees or less. And that's because these are the sorts of businesses that are incredibly intimidated by these formal letters of threats of legal action.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    And they are all too willing to to cave for that and pay the 510 or $15,000 fee that's being asked to just go away and not sue, which, by the way, certainly doesn't guarantee that if there is a defect that it's fixed.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    But if that same business is so intimidated by that threat of legal action and is willing to pay that amount of money, they will be similarly concerned about the threat of legal action if they don't fix the defect, which is why I believe that they will.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    And I'd like to point out a little history with regard to this issue and why there is much more support for this now. When I was in the Assembly many years ago, I worked on this issue with no success. And it was because the law firms that issue these lawsuit threats targeted pretty much all businesses.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    It seems that they have found since then that they have a much higher propensity of success for achieving the 510 or 15,000 fee to go away when they target businesses that are intimidated by the legal system and what that means.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    It has become far more prevalent and in a lot of disadvantaged areas and all over the state that representatives of both parties have experienced this by constituents of theirs. It has become a fundamentally different approach by these predatory law firms, and they're achieving success at taking advantage of disadvantaged businesses.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    And I think this is a very reasonable approach to still uphold the ADA but provide justice for small businesses that have otherwise been abused. I respectfully ask for an Aye vote.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 34. Noes, 2. The measure passes. Members, let's give our undivided attention to pro tem Senator Mcguire.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, Mr. President and Members, colleagues, today I rise to ask for your support for the Senate's affordability package, which are three impactful, bold bills that will help make life more affordable and livable for tens of millions of Californians.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    These three bills that will be in front of us are an aggressive legislative effort to help make the Golden State a better place to live and raise a family. But let me be clear here today. There is much more to come on affordability and we are going to have large announcements in the coming couple of months.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    First and foremost, let's talk about the energy bill that will be in front of us today. This plan puts people first by protecting families from out of control utility costs and reining in excessive profits from utilities that have gone unchecked for decades. The energy bill will bring clean energy projects online faster.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Thousands of megawatts, and it reigns in investor owned utility expenditures. SB 254 is going to slash monthly bills and help power America's top economy and millions of homes. It's going to save tens of billions of dollars for California homeowners and renters in the coming years.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    And because the California dream starts at home, our housing affordability bill greatly expands the number of first time home buyers, makes rents more affordable for tens of thousands and expedites home construction in big cities, in small towns, in every corner of the Golden State.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    We're also opening up life changing opportunities to good paying middle class jobs by expanding number of career training programs in every corner of California. Because let's be honest, if we want people to afford to live in the Golden State, we need to create real pathways to jobs that help families make ends meet.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Not just today, but for years to come. Colleagues, this package isn't just policy the first priority. It's about people. It's about uplifting millions of Californians in their communities. It's about continuing to grow the nation leading economy, which is California's economy and giving Californians a fair shot.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    The bills that will be before us today confront some of our toughest challenges head on with innovative solutions and with the urgency the moment demands. Californians deserve a united approach to tackling the affordability crisis and and building a brighter future. And we simply can't afford to wait. And again, I'll start it.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    I'll end it as I started it. This is just the beginning. I would respectfully ask for an aye vote on the three bills that will be presented in the next special order.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Mcguire. We will begin with item 67.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read Senate Bill 254 by. Senator Becker in act relating to electricity and declaring the urgency thereof to take effect immediately.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Senator Becker, you are recognized. Thank you. Colleagues, it is my great pleasure to present SB254. We are all acutely aware of rising electricity bills. Our constituents are frustrated and angry at the rate at which bills have been increasing over the last 10 years.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Residential rates have gone up 82% for SDG and E customers, 90% for Southern California Edison customers and 110% for PG and E customers. Edison's and PG E's customers have seen rate increases of 50% in the last three years alone. This has got to stop.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The first step is to modernize rate making and go directly after utility profits, which is what this Bill does. The Bill is a product of many months of effort from our affordability working group, the PT's team, my staff.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    It's the Legislature's most ambitious effort ever to rein in rising energy costs and put Ratepayer first and you may have heard it's not going to save X or Y. We're here to set the record straight and tell you it will save our constituents tens of billions of dollars over the next few years.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And I'll go through some of the specifics in the provisions of this Bill and the savings and there's more to come. The Bill has nine major provisions to improve spending decisions, reduce development costs and lower electricity bills. Why nine provisions? We know there's not one silver bullet. If there's one silver bullet, we would have done it.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    There are nine major provisions in this Bill.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The first two provisions can immediately reduce electricity bills through reforms to the climate dividend that will return more money to customers and through the creation of a Power Fund that can shift some of the costs for wildfire prevention and other public purpose programs out of rates and over to the GGRF.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Instead, returning 100% of utilities cap and trade revenues in the climate dividend instead of 85% as is done today, would mean $245 million in Ratepayer savings every year based on 2024 numbers. The next provision tackles wildfire spending. This is the biggest cause, as we all know, of recent rate increases.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    As I said yesterday, our investor owned utilities spend collectively $10 billion a year on wildfire mitigation. So we need to make sure we get the biggest bang for the buck. And that's what this Bill does. It will improve coordination and oversight of wildfire mitigation plans.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Require utilities and the PUC to evaluate plans in terms of cost effectiveness so they will strike a better balance between risk reduction and cost. You've all heard about should we be undergrounding, should we do covered conductors, should we be doing more, you know, tree maintenance?

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    That's this is about getting the biggest bang for the buck and in those in that $10 billion of spend every year.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The next three provisions put tighter scrutiny over rate making, including requiring the PC to provide public explanations for any proposed and approved rate increases, requiring transparency about how much profit the IOUS are earning and where it's coming from, and requiring utilities to submit at least one spending plan scenario that would keep any rate increases at or below the rate of inflation.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Again, this inflation is not a hard set limit that might put safety and reliability at risk as some opponents have claimed. The Bill explicitly says the PUC may approve plans with higher spending if there's clear evidence that is needed to ensure safe and reliable operation.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The next provisions will help us build the same things that we're going to Build, but at lower cost, not often in energy where we can build the same thing at lower cost.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The first requires I use to use securitization, which means a much lower financing cost for the next 15 building of their spending on wildfire mitigation 5 billion of it and energization of new customers 10 billion of it. Turn.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The Utility Reform Network has estimated that this will save $1 billion a year once fully invested and about $8.8 billion over the next 10 years. $8.8 billion over the Next 10 years.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The second part creates a clean energy infrastructure Fund that can use public ownership or public financing of big transmission projects, for example, to save an estimated 50% of the cost of these major new investments.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Again, turn Utility Reform Network estimated this could save $3 billion a year over time as the authority reduces the cost of future transmission projects. The final provision of the Bill, as our pro tem referred to it, streamlines the permitting of clean energy projects.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Clean energy is already the cheapest energy, but this will bring it online faster and cheaper, which will lower electricity bills by reducing generation costs. Colleagues, our constituents are fed up with rising electricity bills and they expect us to address it.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    When the pro tem asked us to do something big to reining utility bills, we took that directive seriously. This is not a set of modest tweaks. They'll make minor improvements at the edges of a problem without offending anyone. This is a big deal.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Again, there's no silver bullet to lower electricity bills, but collectively, the provisions in this Bill will save billions of dollars every year. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, you are recognized. Thank you, Mr. President. Members, I rise in opposition to SB 254 and also looking at the whole entire package for a lot of hoopla at the beginning of the year saying this is the year to tackle the affordability crisis, these three bills are what you come up with.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    It's almost laughable, in fact, a comedy, so to speak. Yesterday, the Senator from Menlo Park cited Festivus, which is from the classic Seinfeld episode. I'd like to point out another Seinfeld episode where the word bizarro was used. Bizarro is the opposite. Down is up, up is down. People say goodbye when they arrive, hello when they leave.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    This is the Bizarro affordability package. Costs will go up. And the Democrats call this affordable. This morning, Democrats had the opportunity to make prices affordable for Californians. When Senator Jones wanted to bring up SB2 to the Senate Floor to lower gasoline prices, it was Rejected.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    I presented a helpful amendment to prevent bureaucratic efforts to signify that signifies driving up the cost of housing energy for Southern California families, renters and small business owners. It was rejected. My Democratic colleagues rejected both of these solutions. If you can keep your comments. Yes, the actual Bill. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Because it's overall package here that we're talking about. No, we're talking about this Bill. Yes, I understand. So SB254 is a cost driver by the California Chamber of Commerce. In fact. Permission to read? Permission granted. This increases cost, will require large investor owned utilities to invest a collective $15 billion on infrastructure and receive no rate of return.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    It prohibits a rate of return to the investment and can lower the investors interest in corporations. Lowering investor interest will increase the cost of financing a project which therefore will increase the cost of ratepayers. So this package, this Bill, along with the entire package. A lot of hoopla from the majority party about affordability in California.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    But again, I much have said don't look at the rhetoric, look at the record. If this is your idea of affordability package, man, the people of California are going to be hurting when it comes to affordability in the years to come. I urge a no vote on SB254. Senator Niello, you are recognized.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. The Chamber of Commerce has an opposed position on this and they have an interesting effective articulation of it. Permission to read, Mr. President, permission to read. Without objection. SB254 is framed as a ratepayer relief and wildfire safety omnibus.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    But in practice it would overlay California's already complex energy framework with new state authorities, bond financing schemes and open ended reimbursement funds that merely shift rather than reduce costs while introducing additional compliance burden and inviting continued expansion of legislative spending mandates without fear. Fiscal discipline.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Now, there are fundamentally two drivers of the cost increased cost of living in this state, inflation and regulations. I don't think we can do anything about inflation in this body, but we can do something about regulation. The regulation regime that we have in this state is oppressive and definitely drives prices.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Now your package of affordability is rather modest in number, but it is even more modest in its potential impact. Regulatory reform is absolutely essential to bring costs down in the State of California. And I don't see anything, any evidence of that effort in any three of these bills. Respectfully, I request a no vote.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Senator Perez, you are recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. And want to thank the good Senator from Menlo park for bringing forward SB254. And I've been really impressed by the thoughtfulness that he has put into the spill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I was a part of the affordability work group and actually requested to be a part of this work group upon joining the Legislature because I wanted to be a part of these deep and meaningful conversations about reducing cost for Californians. Now, I want to be really clear.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    You know, when I came to this body, I didn't know a whole lot, to be perfectly honest, about energy or utilities. But I have certainly had to educate myself because as many of you in this body know, an IOU is under investigation for its role in the Eaton fires.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This has been covered by the LA Times, by the New York Times, and because of that, many of my constituents are asking about how things could have been made safer, right? How we could have improved infrastructure.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    They're asking about the high cost of their utilities and the improvements that they want to see IOUS make, whether it is PG&E, whether it is SoCal Edison to further enhance the system to prevent fires and wildfires from happening. Now, the fact of the matter is these kinds of wildfire mitigation efforts cost money.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    They are actually the largest cost on the, on the entire system that we see. And they cause a dramatic increase in rates for poor rate payers having to make that investment to change that infrastructure. And we know that that is how IOUS make money. It is infrastructure costs them actually doing this work.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But we want them to do it because all of us in this room want to prevent fires from happening. Nobody wants to. I certainly would never wish that upon anybody else to experience the kind of devastation that has happened in Altadena. But to do that is going to require investment. It's going to require cost.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And that is why the Senator has included things like securitization. That is why he's included things like state financing. These are measures that can bring down the overall cost of doing this work, work that this entire body wants to see. This is going to save us billions. It's going to reduce cost for ratepayers.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This is efficient, it's effective. It is what Californians want to see us do. They want to know that we are working to further enhance the system, to make our system safer. But we're doing it at a reduced cost so they're not seeing their rates blow through the roof.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Now I also want to highlight, because I know there's been several criticisms today, particularly from my friends on the other side of the House, about what we are doing as Democrats here in California to advance bills to further reduce cost for folks as everybody's experiencing an affordability crisis.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And you know, I want to highlight this Bill is going to have an impact. You heard the Senator from Menlo Park already reference a dollar amount. We're working on further enhancing that so that we can get down to to that very dollar amount.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The impact that we'll see for individual constituents, the climate credit that is mentioned in here will be reflected on people's bills. This is the kind of impact we're going after directly reducing cost for IOU so that they're not spreading that cost onto ratepayers. So this is absolutely the right direction that we need to go.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And frankly I haven't seen any presentations from the Republicans around how we are going to further reduce fire risk for the entire state at a time that we're seeing fires happen year round while also addressing this issue of cost. But I would love to hear that discussion because it's the discussion that we need to have. Thank you.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Senator Jones of order. Mr. President, you. Yes sir. I appreciate the speaker from the Altadena area calling out Republicans and affordability. I will remind the speaker that we just yesterday in a bipartisan manner voted on a Bill Fund CAL FIRE and make CAL FIRE more effective with year round firefighters.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Senator Jones, I appreciate the point of order. The point of order is that the speaker has called out Republicans specifically on bills that we have or have not introduced. And I am correcting the record on that. On that calling out. Hang on one minute. Members.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Jones, point is well taken.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, sir. And if the speaker is finished, we can move on to the next Speaker. Thank you very much, Senator Perez, Senator Padilla, you are recognized.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President. And colleagues at rise in strong support. I want to thank my good friend, the Senator from Menlo park for his leadership and work in this space for so long and collaboration. So let's talk about cost. Let's talk about numbers. There's that old saying about sometimes inconvenient facts.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Requiring utilities to finance $15 billion worth of wildfire capacity improvements without putting it on the backs of recoverable fees for ratepayers can save ratepayers in California as much as $8.8 billion over the lifetime of those asset improvements. Creating public financing for new transmission.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Their proposed infrastructure authority is forecasted to save ratepayers as much as $3 billion a year on average.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Requiring utilities to submit inflation linked alternatives to their original rate case submittals and requests as public is well aware of those requests when they're coming down the line will create a strong counter pressure to just a situation of continuing unfettered rate case requests that just build in profit after profit, excessive profit that is passed on and recovered from ratepayers.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    In the rate cases. Utility costs to ratepayers have outperformed inflation since the year 2016 by more than $2 billion a year on average. Building on the already $15 billion in bill credits that have been given back to utility customers. Averaging $800 on energy costs per year since the year 2014.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    SB 254 is anticipated to provide approximately over 60 billion in utility ill credits to California residents with the 2045 Cap and Trade extension. Ratepayers know what's up. They know what these numbers mean. That's the real situation.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    It's also interesting to note that large scale energy procurers and purchasers of power support this package of bills because they know what's at stake and they understand costs. Colleagues respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you, Senator.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Durazo, you are recognized.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. I will support this bill. I have a question. Question for the author, if I might.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    The author take a question. You may proceed.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Thank you. I know there's a lot in this bill and I'm trying to understand it all. But if there's a way that you could help simplify how this will get to the consumers and save money to the consumers. That's what we all are here for.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Struggle with this every Single day back in our districts, people talk about that and affordability is a real issue. So if you could help put out a translation of this bill into what it means to regular working Californians. Thank you. Thank you for your work, by the.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Way, through the chair. Well, certainly. And we have a handout that kind of goes through the pieces that the good Senator from San Diego just mentioned. But it's really about that short, medium and long term. And the short term is specific to that climate credit, getting 100% of that climate credit back to consumers.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    They already see that on their bill, but right now it's kind of buried. They get it at a time of year. They don't necessarily need it. It's more around April and October. So we want to change that. So that comes when they need it. I'd love to see it actually more visible, too.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I don't know if that's going to happen yet, but we're going to get that credit to them when they most need it, during the summer months. And we want to increase it even more for those who need it the most. So that's really the big piece.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Now we're also creating this power Fund, and this is something the Senate has led on and tried for many years.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    It was part of our working group that we did, led by the good Senator from Santa Cruz, which is ultimately, we want to take some of those costs for wildfire mitigation, even some of the public purpose programs, ultimately out of rates, because rates is a regressive way to do that. So we're going to create this Fund.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    We may not Fund it this year because of the budget situation, but we're going to create that Fund so that over time we can take those costs out of rates.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Some of the other pieces, again, we're going to see the impact more over time that our work with the Puc, the transparency around rates, making them have a rationale for approved cases, limiting the cost of inflation, that's all going to save probably billions of dollars, too. It's just that part is a little harder to quantify.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    But the pieces around financing and securitization that I went through, the Senator from San Diego went through, those are very specific savings. The term the Utility Reform Network, which is obviously a huge supporter of this Bill, they put very specific numbers over that.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    We went through 8.8 billion over 10 years for the financing and 3 billion per year on that clean energy infrastructure. So some pieces are a little harder to quantify, like the streamlining pieces, but some are very specific. Hope that's helpful.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    I'm sorry, if I could ask one more or just make a comment Author just. Yes, just a comment is as you move. As we move forward on this with this Bill is to keep a more explicit case. Keep in mind or include in the process what the impact would be on employees of these utilities.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    We want to make sure that while we're doing a great good for consumers, consumers are also working people. And how do we make sure that there's not an impact on the employees of the utilities? Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Appreciate that. Senator Seyarto, you are recognized.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this particular bill, although it does have some things that could probably be used and incorporated. It takes the same approach that we took with ABX2 last year with the gas industry.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    It is assuming that there is giant gouging going on that the prices are being driven by greed. And so far this year the attempts to control prices in gasoline have not translated into big savings. In fact, I think right now we're paying about 50 cents more a gallon than we were paying last year.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    And I don't see any actions being taken against the gas companies because guess what, they haven't found any of that stuff. So what this is, this is not hard stuff to me. These bills in their entirety would be like me mandating two hour showers to address the drought. They don't connect. Here's how this works.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    If we are going to have unrealistic mandates and if our we're going to lower costs for and make California more affordable doesn't start with we're going to either pause, repeal or at least reduce some of the mandates that we have created that are related to energy. We are not going to lower the cost of anything in California.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Energy is what drives all the costs for just about everything else in California. Now when we're talking about the utility companies, yes, they are going back to the CPUC time and time again.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    And the reason they're going back there is because we are mandating that we attain unrealistic goals for all electric vehicles, for everything being electric in California. And they're trying madly to try and get the infrastructure, which means wires everywhere, everywhere and putting up more of the clean energy and trying to transfer, trying to transfer everything.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    All that stuff costs money. There is not one bill that I am seeing in our affordability package. This says that instead we're back to, oh, you know what, it's the utility company's fault that we don't have affordability. Well, the utility company doesn't create lawsuits.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    The Utility companies don't create regulations that don't allow us to do the type of mitigation we need to reduce fire and the costs related to that. All of these things. Our legal environment has nothing to do with utility costs. Utility costs are secondary to our regulations.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    If we are not going to step back, look in the mirror and figure out who it is that's making these regulations that's driving these costs, you know, we're not going to lower prices.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    And the more we don't lower prices, the more the people that want to start their lives are moving out of our state and we're going to have even less money. So let's get real. This package, there's some things in there I'm okay with on the other two bills. This one's not going to work.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    So let's stop pretending that we're going to do another bill so we can tell everybody, hey, we addressed this just like we addressed the gas prices. You won't see any price spikes now. BS we're going to get one next year. That's going to be a whopper. We need to fix this.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    We need to reconfigure our approach to energy and climate so that it makes sense and we can make real progress, probably over a longer period of time. Otherwise, we're going to drive more people, more people that need jobs here and more businesses that provide those jobs and right out of our state.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    If you don't think that's happening, you need to pull your head out of the sand because it is. So I urge a no vote on this SB 254.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    Senator Wiener, you are recognized. Thank you very much, Mr. President. If we're going to go with the Seinfeld theme, I'm going to say we're hearing a lot of yada yada from some of the opposition to this bill. No disrespect. Seinfeld's an amazing. It's an amazing show.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    So first, I just want to say, like, sometimes in these debates, if you didn't know anything, if you were just like coming in and you knew nothing about California and you just heard some of the things said, you would think that this state is like a shriveling, dying hellscape. And that could not be further from the truth.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    I mean, this state is amazing in so many ways. But let's focus on economics. California is the economic engine of the United States of America. We are the fourth largest economy in the world.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    We're the number one manufacturing state, the number one tech state, the number one ag state 35 out of the 50 top AI companies on the planet are in California and we pay $83 billion a year more to the Federal Government than we get.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    So I just want to start by saying that this state is, we have challenges for sure, but this state is strong. And when we look at our energy costs and utilities, which is what is at issue in this bill, over the last decade we have seen record profits by our investor owned utilities, tens of billions of dollars.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    And at the same time that we've seen these record profits, we have seen endless rate increases, endless rate increases by the utilities to pay for things like wildfire mitigation and other needs with those tens of billions of dollars of profits that could and should be paying for those mitigations.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    Instead, it's always looking to California consumers to pay endlessly increased energy costs and electricity costs. This bill will help to start turn turning that around by requiring the utilities to use more of their profits to pay for these costs. Instead of automatically looking to rate payers.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    It will provide for significant savings to ratepayers and it will start shifting this terrible dynamic of constantly going to the ratepayers to pay for things that the utilities through their profits should be paying for. I also will say that the permitting reform in this Bill for clean energy is incredibly exciting to me.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    For those who I've spoken to, probably all of you at one point or another, I am a big, big fan and I'm glad there's finally some more momentum around just getting things done more quickly. Whether it's housing, whether it's transportation, whether it's childcare centers and whether it's clean energy.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    The clean energy transition is so important, but it can only happen if we actually permit it more quickly. And this bill will be a gigantic step towards making that happen. It's not the end of the work. There's more work to do on all of this if we of course.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    Senator Alvarado-Gil, you are recognized.

  • Scott Wiener

    Legislator

    But this is a big step forward and I ask for an aye vote.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I have mixed feelings on the floor today. But it wasn't until I heard Senator from Los Angeles ask the question just in simple speak, how does this save money for Californians? Just tell us how this saves money for Californians.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    And I still have yet to hear that simple speak when we leave the floor today of what are we going to tell our constituents that this affordability package is. I'm looking at the numbers here and I feel like this is another example of Sacramento sloppy seconds when it comes to policymaking. We had 432 bills come to us.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    432. Only three admittedly have to deal with affordability crisis in California. That is 0.7% of the bills that we're talking about on the floor have to deal with affordability in California.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    When I heard over and over, over again everyone on this floor talk about how much we care about our, our constituents and putting money back into their pockets. Yet when we ask the simple question, how is this going to make it more affordable to live in California?

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    You know, I hear the projections of 10 years is going to save billions and billions of dollars. Well, Californians don't have 10 years to wait to save money on their utility bills or to differentiate between buying food or paying for their housing costs or just packing up and moving. Shame on us. Shame on us.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    We have the power and the education and intelligence and the will and the drive to put money back into the pockets of Californians and give them some financial relief. Not build big beautiful projections about what may or may not happen. This is how we've been doing it for years.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    We have the opportunity right now to go vanilla and plain speak and say this is how we are going to make it more affordable. Here in California, electric rates have increased 78% since 2013. 78%. I don't know a single Californian who has gotten cost of living raises of 78% in those years.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    In just 2019, speaking to my colleague from San Francisco who so eloquently talked about the rate increases. In just 2019, California utility rates increased 11 times. 11 times. But this is the one time where we can have conversations about affordability crisis for Californians and we're talking about putting more money into utilities companies pockets.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    I don't understand and maybe I just need to hear more mics go up so I can understand. Or maybe we just need to start talking and plain speak. How does this put money back in the pockets of our California constituents right now? How does this ensure food right now? How does this protect childcare so services right now?

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    How does that, how does this bill give Californians hope? Because I'll tell you, I don't think we've got 10 years to figure this out to see if this works. Permission to read without objection. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Granted.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    So According to the CPUC, since about 2014, the average electricity cost per month rose exponentially. PG&E went from 15 to 22 cents per kilowatt hour. That's a 47% increase. San Diego Gas and Electric from 16 to 24 cents per kilowatt, that's a 50% increase. And Southern California Edison from 18 to 32 cents, that's a 78% increase.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    Yet when we even look at our own employees and have conversations with them at the end of year, we're talking about 1%, 2%, 3% increases for cost of living.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    This is a punch in the gut when we talk about cost of living increases to our employees at such a nominal level, but when we are talking about energy rate increases at 78%.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    I urge you, I urge you in the super majority to take seriously this affordability crisis and dedicate more than 0.7% of your bills to making it more affordable to live in California.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    This is a plea not only for my constituents, but this is a plea for the millions of constituents here in California to say you have the power and you have the will, but this isn't it. And I look forward to, as our pro tem explained, more to come.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    I look forward to that because there is a real crisis right now. And I know no one in here will deny that. And I know we're all here to do good for California, but this affordability package is pathetic and this doesn't do it. So I can't support this today.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    But thank you to the author for bringing it forward.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Jones, you are recognized.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I wanted to speak to the bill and then also a couple of comments that were made on the floor regarding the bill for the Senator from Pasadena that was concerned about Republicans being concerned about affordability and fire Wildfire specifically. I will point her to our website, our state official website for Senate Republicans.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    On February 4th, we published our package of bills dealing with wildfire and specifically some of the cost of living issues regarding wildfire. And included in that Bill is the one that I referenced earlier that the Senate pro tem and I and others have co authored.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I'll also point out for the Senator from Pasadena, 18 bills that the Republicans have introduced this year that all died in Committee without Democrat support, without support from the majority party.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    18 bills specifically on affordability that the Republicans have tried to work across the aisle, build coalitions, build relationships with our partners in the majority party and increase affordability in California, rejected by the majority party. I'd like to also address some concerns that the Senator from LA and the Senator from Jackson raised specifically to this bill.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Mr. President, if I may ask the author a question? Author, will you take a question? Sure. Please. Thank you. Senators. Mr. President and Senator, I appreciate that earlier this morning I offered the opportunity for this body to vote on an affordability bill, SB2.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    You chose to vote no on that, as many of our Democratic colleagues also voted no on that bill. That bill specifically would stop gas prices from going up by 65 cents a gallon on July 1st. It's been asked on the floor.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I'll try to ask as specifically as I can, what is the specific dollar amount that this particular bill, SB 254, saves California families on a weekly basis, a monthly basis or a yearly basis.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    So you know, this bill is about electricity rates, as you know, not about gasoline rates and electricity rates. As we said, this will save directly, just the very first part, the climate credit part, $245 million a year to Californians. That's in the short term.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    It will save a lot more in the long term, but that's the immediate impact.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you. I appreciate that. That was a very specific answer. We'll look into that and try to break that down to what does it save the actual average California family? Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, I stand in opposition of this bill. My points of opposition don't need to be restated.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    As many of my colleagues have eloquently pointed out, that this bill comes is a far, far cry away from creating affordability for the average California family. I ask for a no vote. Thank you, Senator. Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you. There's been much debate on this bill. I, I do see good points in it. But I also just want to say that we don't have to reinvent the will. We don't have to create an electric reimbursement program for wildlife. We don't have to do an energy infrastructure.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    We don't have to authorize the CEC to prepare a program environmental eir. We don't have to do all that. We just have to pick up the phone, call our colleagues in Arizona and say, can you tell us how your utility rates for 851kW? 851kW is $99.43. And in California, 107kW. 107kW is $220.84.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I think if we could just model, it would be easier. It'd be probably very much cost prohibitive or cost.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    It'll be an easy way to save money by just picking up the phone and talking to our colleagues that run the Arizona state Legislature and possibly the Governor to find out how their utility rates are 90% cheaper than ours when they use just when households use more kilowatt hours or more kilowatts in Arizona and than they do in California.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I have copies of those bills from a house in Arizona and a house in California, if you're interested. I also just briefly question to the author. Pretty simple. Just so I understand.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Go ahead. Sure.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    The CEC sets the rate of return for our IOU's.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Is that you see the Public Utilities Commission.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Not the CEC.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    No, not the CC.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Okay. So the agency that sets the, the rate of return, the IOU's, RPG, Southern California Edison, whatever, they're guaranteed a certain profit set by a state agency appointed by the Governor.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Is that not there is a rate. Of return they negotiate with the PUC. Yeah.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Okay. But I guess my question is, is that it's set by an agency who is appointed by the Governor that guarantees the our IOU's a certain dollar amount. That's how current law is.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    There's a remaking process. The utilities propose a first of all any increase. For example, they propose an increase to current rates. And that's one thing this bill does. This bill says that one of the. They have to have at least one proposal that limits the rate increase to the cost of inflation could be even less than that.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    But there has to be at least one that at least either makes prices go down or limits it to the, to the cost of inflation in this bill.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Okay. So I guess the answer is yes to that. The other thing is, is that a few days ago over on the Assembly they had several agency chairs that were there addressing the cost of energy and where we are in this cliff that we're facing.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And I believe it was the California Air Resources Board chair that says they didn't put a cost on, on the impacts of families for, for making sure that her job of reducing carbon emissions was satisfactory. The same thing was this. Is this bill going to increase the cost and increase poverty? I still don't have a dollar amount.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    The, the minority leader asked a question about, you know, so many people in houses immediately going to infect their bills. I quickly did the number 40 million Californians. I know that's household. Households, not households, but reducing the rate by that dollar, it's like $6 and 12 cents a year.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    So I, I just can't, I can't reconcile my mind around this when it's specifically Arizona pays a substantially amount less. If you do the, if you do the math on the numbers that you proposed in your response for the. I think you said 220, $240 million.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Increase, 245 minute increase upon that's going from 85% to 100%. So we already returned 85%. So I don't have the math in front of me on what that total amount is, but that's a $245 million increase. Yeah, we divide the climate credit.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I think it comes to, like, 621 a year anyways. So I just, I appreciate two of the items that are in here, but not this. And I don't see how it's really going to save us money and our constituents that are struggling to pay power bills that have increased significantly over the years respectfully ask for a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I genuinely appreciate the spirited debate. I rise as a joint author of this particular Bill and I also want to highlight as chair, co chair of the Affordability Working Group that really worked to kind of address the three big issues in people's lives that are concerning to folks.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    This Bill is supported by the California Large Energy Consumers Association. They are in full support and they represent energy intensive industries that produce good essentials for daily life such as critical infrastructure, oxygen for hospitals and food distribution and much more. They are in full support of this Bill. They represent the regular person.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    I understand that there is opposition to this Bill. But I also want to highlight some of the comments that were made. I fully agree that. You know, how do we explain this as a cost saving effort for folks? First, I just want to address some of the concerns that we have. As you know, regular people here.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    PGE represents my district. And PG&E just recently in the month of March asked for 11.3% return for investors. Not for ratepayers. For investors up a percentage point from the current limit. This would increase residential customer bills by about $550 months per month. The rate hike would start early next year in January.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And in 2024, PG&E reported a $2.47 billion in profits alone. And of that, 86 million went to shareholder dividends. In fact, they actually asked for an increase to just pay their shareholders, not to take care of their ratepayers. We have seen fire after fire ravage areas in California. People lose their entire livelihood, their entire livelihood.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Not only the roof over their head, but the clothes on their back. And we are seeing people who can't eat, even choose to keep the lights on or buy a bag of groceries. That is what is happening to America, let alone in California.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And so this is a wonderful Bill that does address a lot of the big critical infrastructure concerns, systemic issues and systematic reasons why things are happening the way they are.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    So this Bill and I want to highlight this will save consumers billions of dollars over the next decade on energy bills by making the current wildfire mitigation plan more efficient, tackling what has caused the majority of the recent fires.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And I want to say that these IOUS have been increasing the cost to say that we are investing in the infrastructure. They have not. They have not invested in this infrastructure. Over the last 10 years, residential rates have gone up by 82% for SDGE customers, 90% for Southern California Edison customers and 110% for PG&E customers.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Edison and PG&E customers have seen rate increases of 50% in the last three years alone. And so when you're on a fixed income, what do you do? So these trends will continue.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And so by making utility wildfire mitigation spending more efficient and effective and streamlining this, this will save money for the IOUS and in turn supposedly reduce rates the securitization of new utility infrastructure. Many of the things that we complain about, for example in the Bay Area, if it rains, we have no lights on.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    It authorizes the California Public Utilities Commission to securitize utility capital costs which also again, hundreds of millions of dollars will be saved for new utility infrastructure by not allowing investor owned utilities to earn a profit on $15 billion on capacity building and wildfire hardening.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    It also increasing twice a year the climate credits for low income families, making sure increased credits reduce their bills when costs are the highest, not only in summer but in winter. And this currently is provided to households in IOU service territories at roughly about $200 a year that will go up.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    It creates again a state infrastructure to create a public private partnership to finance and own newly constructed grid infrastructure to deliver this energy. It also offsets the public purpose programs.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    But one of the main things, and I want to highlight this in just regular conversation, is that it does cap the rate increases to no more than the COLA increases, which is exactly what we want. The CPUC has not denied a rate increase since 2002. That is a problem as well.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    We are also trying to rein in inflation expenditure. What is happening right now when people say it's because of inflation? Well, we would like to do a better analysis of that. And so you have three main points right there. We're improving our infrastructure, making it more efficient. Long term goal.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Short term goal is the climate credit that goes directly in the pockets of individuals. And we are also making sure that the increases aren't ridiculous of what we have been seeing. And we're going to see immediate effects, both short term, midterm and long term goals. This is a good Bill.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    I thank the good Senator from the Bay Area. I thank the PT for his commitment on ensuring that we tackle affordability and move things forward. So I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Valladares. You are recognized.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I respectfully rise in opposition to this measure. Permission to read from Cal Chamber Without.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Without objection, please.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    It's one sentence. zero, I thought you said objection. No, I said without Objection.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please continue.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    SB250 according to Kelchamber. SB254 could raise the cost of doing business while amplifying price uncertainty. The cumulative impact threatens California's standing as a hub for manufacturing, food processing and other industrial activities that anchor jobs and generate significant state and local tax revenue. Now, I was sent here to represent over a million people.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    We are one of a million people, each and every one of us. And I think the pro tem really called that to our attention early when we were sworn in on, on Swearing in day in December. And what the people of my district sent me here to do is to address affordability.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    And I think we all heard that loud and clear. Now, I also don't know if any of you know where the high desert is and how hot it gets in the Acton, Palmdale, Hesperia area. Pretty hot.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    For those of you that live by the beach, we're a little jealous on some days, even though I have the best district in all of California. Our utility bills. Our utility bills often go from hundreds of dollars to $1,000. And we don't have a choice. We have to run those air conditionings.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    So if one ounce of me believed this was going to save the people of my district money, I could support it. Unfortunately, it's probably going to cost us money. I can't support that.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    We need real solutions, real solutions for working Californians that are struggling to pay their energy bills and all of the price of energy costs raises cost of everything else. We need to get serious about this. This is not serious, but I am a little perplexed and I do need some clarification.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    I'm hoping you can weigh in on here to go back to what the Senator from Bakersfield was, was getting at. So the Governor appoints the PUC Members.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Are you asking the author.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Through the chair? Yes, I'd like to.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Would the author like to take a question? Sure.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Please. So the Governor appoints PUC Members and in turn you could call the Governor and tell him not to allow them to raise rates. Is that accurate?

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    We don't, as you know, and for all who sit on the energy Committee, we have the PUC commissioners come before us and we've had hearings exactly on this issue. And we all have a chance, Democrats and Republicans, to ask the PUC commissioners to share our views, share our concerns, ask questions of the Puc.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    We all have that opportunity as Democrats and Republicans to query the Puc, ask the PUC demand of the PUC to take action. And if you've been anyone who's been in energy hearings, you've been in those hearings this year where the PUC comes before all of us.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    So the buck stops at leadership though. So the Governor has power to influence the price of utilities in this state and has not?

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Not directly, no. Not utility rate making. Utility rate making is an independent process. We wouldn't want the Governor to set rates. You wouldn't want a Democratic Governor do it. We wouldn't want a Republican Governor to say here's what the rates are. The Governor is not the expert on rates.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    That's what the PC and this many staff, the many highly qualified staff are. That's what we pay them to do.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    So if you'll state your question and we won't do back and forth to state your questions and then we will proceed forward. Happy to take it.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    In my clothes my husband sometimes tells me I end sentences that sound like a question. So my apologies, it was more of a statement. But I appreciate the dialogue and respectfully ask for a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    We appreciate your honesty and openness in the most respectful way. Senator Choi.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    I was full of expectation when I heard affordability energy affordability acts will be introduced. But I have so many questions. But directly related to this Bill. I'm going to raise my questions of which I'm not going to directly ask the author to reply, just raising my question.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Why I will be objecting to this Bill is that this Bill will create a policy oriented and wildlife electric reimbursement program. And the analysis says that CPU estimate is to implement that program alone it will cost 5 to $10 million. In other words, investing to save money.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Investing this kind of a large amount of money and to save hopefully there's an unproven theory of saving future money. It is not logical to me. Secondly, this Bill is addressing to creating energy clean energy infrastructure authority. Creating another authority. This is another bureaucracy to govern this energy policies.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Any agency when you create it is not automatically happens. It costs money. Who knows how much money this agency will be using to establish and implement the programs and create the policies and employ the employees to run that authority.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    This Bill requires the California Energy Commission to prepare program environmental impact report Creating environmental impact report and that will save directly our energy cost. This doesn't make any sense to me. There are numerous questions I can still raise. But for the time we can save so we can process more bills.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    These are some of the representative reasons why I urge all Members with a common sense vote no to this Bill.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you Senator Choi for your consideration of timeliness pro tem.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Senator Mcguire, you are recognized. Thank you so much Members. I'll be brief and I apologize Getting up a second time. And I appreciate the opportunity to be able to speak briefly. So I'd like to address the issue of cost and costing money. You know who pocketbook is going to be impacted by this? Utilities.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    This is the most significant reform. In. Utility profit return that we've seen in decades. Number one opponent of this Bill, profit driven utilities. Number one. Why is that? Because we're reining in their record profits.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    We're raining in the record profits on these corporations and candidly, the record CEO pay that we've been seeing in these corporations as well, that's whose money is going to be impacted when and if this Bill passes. So let's talk about who's supporting this and why.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    The large ag energy users, the agricultural energy users are in support of this Bill, by the way. They're also a Member of the California Chamber of Commerce. They're the largest energy users in California's ag market, which is the number one ag market in the United States of America.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    They use more energy than almost anyone else in the State of California. Why are they supporting this Bill? Because it's going to drive down the cost of business on top of employee costs. One of the top drivers for business when it comes to their bottom line is high energy costs.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    The large energy consumers of California, the largest energy users in the State of California, the largest businesses in the State of California, the large energy consumers are supporting this Bill. Why? Because it's going to bring down the cost of business on a monthly basis.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    When we talk about wanting to become more competitive, this is what this Bill does. Take a look at who's supporting and who's not. Utilities, IOUS, investor owned utilities are opposing because it's going to impact their bottom line and where the money used to go to help their investors.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    It's going to be put back into the pockets of Californians or it's going to be put back into the pockets of small business owners and the largest business owners in this state who will then continue to reinvest in America's number one economy right here in the Golden State. Consumer groups. Consumer groups are supporting this Bill.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Why are they supporting this Bill? Because they know that this is going to drive down the cost of utility bills for every day. Californians, wind energy is supporting this. Why? Because it expedites clean energy projects, thousands upon thousands of megawatts that we want to be able to build over the next decade.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    It is going to make it easier and cheaper to be able to build the energy that we need in the State of California that will ultimately Go to the consumers here in the State of California.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    So let's also talk about what this does for consumers and let's talk about consumer bills reins in the profit centers for investor owned utilities. 2. The number one driver on PG&E bills, for example, the largest utility in the United States of America, the largest driver is wildfire mitigation.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    And they have been going buck wild, buck wild on spending. When it comes to wildfire mitigation, there is no check and there is no balance. Guess what this Bill does? It forces PGE to advance wildfire mitigation work in the most effective and efficient way possible.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    This will save billions of dollars for consumers everyday Californians for decades to come. And by the way, why aren't we talking about PG and E should have been doing this damn work decades ago and why are we all paying for it now?

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Because they've been lining the pockets of their investors and not putting it back to where it belongs to in the pockets of everyday Californians. Let's talk about CPI linked billing and CPI linked adjustments at the Public Utilities Commission.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    So right now at the Public Utilities Commission, if SDG and E, PG and E, SoCal Edison wants to come in, they lop in. I'm using some rough numbers here. 16% potential increase in bills hoping that they'll get a 10%.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    What this Bill does, it links an alternative rate increase to the cost performance Index which is at like 3 or 4%. You know why utilities don't like this Bill? Because of this alternative link to the cpi. Gone are the days, ladies and gentlemen, where we're seeing 1213% increases willy nilly.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Because now the PUC would be required to review a CPI rate adjustment. Now we all, this is our first rodeo. I get it. We're opposed. Some are opposed to this because of politics. But let's just be blunt about it. If folks want Democrats to be focused on affordability, then support this Bill.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    CPI linked adjustments at the Public Utilities Commission is going to be a massive driver of rate reduction in the State of California. Wildfire mitigation making it most effective and efficient. Massive driver.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    We can use all of our political points, but when we take a look at the facts in our quiet moments where we all talk, we know that this Bill will be one of the biggest reductions in energy costs in this state in decades. Full stop.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    And that is why you have the largest users of energy in the State of California supporting this Bill. I'm going to end it right here with this. We're not done. One thing that we can agree with all of us can agree to is that we need to do better. We need to make life more affordable and livable.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    This isn't a Democrat or Republican issue. All of us want that. So this is a down payment. And believe you me, we are going to be back here having greater discussion, maybe not a debate, a greater discussion about how we can make life more affordable.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    But these three bills drive down the cost of energy, of housing, and we can't talk about a more sustainable economy without growing our middle class. And that's what the third Bill will do. Thank you so much for your patience. I'm grateful for this respectful debate that we've had today.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    This is what the Senate is all about and we respectfully ask for an aye vote on SB254.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Pro tem Senator Becker, seeing no further mics raised for discussion or debate, you may close well to first.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Start and thank our pro tem for eloquently laying out the rationale, the effect and some of the key pieces of this piece of legislation. Friends, this is complicated. That's what we're here to do, is to do that deeply complicated work.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And of course, we have many more bills that touch, you know, that work on affordability in this Legislature. We don't affect childcare rates, unfortunately, this Bill, it's an energy Bill, but we have lots of bills that work on affordability. And this bill's about immediate savings.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The climate credit piece, by the way, as we all know, capitrade's on the table. We're reimagining capitrade. That could go to zero. This Bill puts it at 1.65 billion. So it actually increases it. That's 245 million. That's an increase.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The total in this Bill, $1.65 billion a year, just in that climate credit piece, not including all the other pieces that the pro tem went through. And that's because we're here to do the hard work. We talked about wildfire costs. Why are wildfire costs gone up? Because of climate change.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Climate change that the Democrats have tried at a state and federal level to work on for decades. But we had fire season. We never had a fire season. First and then it kind of went to September and then October, never. And now we say it's year round. That's why the costs have gone up dramatically.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And that's what we've been working at, the root causes of this. We do appreciate the partnership on the wildfire mitigation part, but we've been trying to get at the root causes of this for years, but that's one of the main drivers of utility costs. This addresses it. It addresses all the other pieces.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Again, it won't address all the points, but one thing we can agree on is streamlining. My good friend Sacramento brought up regulation. This is streamlining many, many projects across the state, many, many clean energy projects across the state so we can do things faster, get that energy to the grid cheaper. I appreciate all of my colleagues comments.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I appreciate the work of the affordability working group and and friends. I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Allen. Aye. Alvarado. Gil. No. Archuleta. Aye. Adin, Aye. Ashby. Aye. Becker. Aye. Blakespear. Aye. Cabaldin. Aye. Caballero. Aye. Cervantes. Aye. Choi. No. Cortese. Aye. Dali. No. Durazo. Aye. Gonzalez. Aye. Grayson. Aye. Grove. Hurtado. Aye. Jones. No. Laird. Aye. Limon, Aye. Mcguire, Aye. McNerney, Aye. Manjewar. Aye. Niello. No. Ochobog. No. Padilla. Aye. Perez. Aye. Reyes. Richardson. Aye. Rubio.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Aye. Sierto. No. Smallwood. Cuevas. Aye. Stern. Aye. Strickland. No. Umberg. Aye. Valaderas. No. Wahab. Aye. Weber. Pearson. Aye. Wiener. Aye. Secretary, please call absent Members. Grove. No. Reyes.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    IAS 29 knows 10 on the urgency. IAS 29 knows 10 on THE MEASURE. The measure passes. We will now move to item 59. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 681 by Senator Wahab an act relating to housing.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. Presidents, colleagues and Members of the public. I rise to present 681, which is part of the Senate affordability package. Investing in California dream. SB 681 addresses issues of housing affordability through a variety of mechanisms that focus on homeowners, renters, housing development and the preservation of housing.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    I want to highlight, as I often do, 94% of Americans, regardless of age, socioeconomic status, or even political parties, still believe that home ownership is part of the American dream. And yet so many are finding housing as a difficulty in their lives.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    SB 681 addresses many issues, including reducing junk fees and rental housing for renters, protecting homeowners from debt collectors, reducing fines and HOAs, and quadrupling the renter's tax credit.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    In addition to this, the Bill also addresses preservation and production of housing by closing loopholes in the Permit Streamlining act, making permanent the Housing Accountability act and the Housing Crisis act, as well as expanding the Surplus Land act and promoting housing production in the coastal zone.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    This Bill robustly addresses the three Ps production, preservation and Protection which are all needed to address the housing and affordability crisis. In this landscape of financial uncertainty when where Californians are clearly telling us we must address housing affordability. SB 681 offers both short term and long term solutions.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And I also understand because this is a large bill, we are continued and continuously committed to addressing any of the issues in this bill in the Assembly. I respectfully ask for an Aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Choi, you are recognized.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Thank you. Colleagues. I stand in opposition to Senate Bill 681. This bill is anti transparency fee and The Screening Bill 681 imposes severe limits and caps on the types of fees landlords can pass on to tenants. While we may think this is a good step toward affordable and controlled rent prices, that is not the case.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Under this bill, tenants won't be able to determine the breakdown of their true cost of rent, utilities and water usages. The bill actually decreases transparency and could result in higher rents for those who use less electricity and water. For those reasons I ask you your no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, you are recognized.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, I would take the advice of the pro tem, his talking points in the last ill that we talked about and take a look at who support and who is opposed to this bill.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    There's only one group that supports it, but almost everybody has anything to do with building housing in California as opposed to this bill. So take a look again as the pro tem said in the last bill, let's look at this bill, use those same kind of talking points. Look who supports it and look who's against it.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Almost everybody who provides housing in California is against this bill. For those reasons I'm against the SB681. Urge my colleagues to join me in that in that opposition. Thank you, Senator.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Umberg, you are recognized.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Question to the authority.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Will the author take questions? Without objection. Please proceed.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Thank you. Question author concerning the Bill and the issue with respect to in particular second mortgages. As you may recall, when the Bill came before Judiciary Committee there were concerns raised about the extinguishment of second, in particular second mortgages based on technical violations.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    And I wanted to ask if what the status is of that issue.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. Stakeholders both on the banking side and consumer protection side contributed to the amended language and we will continue to be working on addressing any other issues in the Assembly.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, please go.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Thank you. Just I'm going to be supportive of the bill. This is a continuing concern and I know and respect the author and expect that when we see it back on concurrence that'll all get resolved. Thank you very much.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Alvarado-Gil, you are recognized.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    I'm rising in opposition of this. Just want to share some facts for the record. This bill is only, only supported by SEIU California which represents less than a million workers in California. Less than a million workers in California.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    California has 40 million people yet we have a bill in front of us that is only supported by a union that represents less than a million. Let that sink in and if those numbers don't get you excited, if those numbers don't raise an eyebrow, let's talk about the amount of money that California SEIU gave to political campaigns.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    You want to guess? $480 million. $480 million was given to political campaigns. This bill is for 750,000 people.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Weber, would you state your point of order, please?

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Yes. Can we please have the Senator focus on the merits of the bill in front of us? Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. One moment members.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Point is well taken, Senator, and will the, will Senator Alvarado-Gil please stay to the points--merits of the bill?

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    Yes, I am simply mirroring the points that the pro tem made around contributions to California and shedding light to the transparency of what this bill actually does. What this bill actually does is takes what one union wants that represents 750,000 workers--and this isn't about a union being bad or good. That's not what this is.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    This is about one bill talking about affordability in California for housing for all Californians with less than 1%. Okay? So that really bothers me. So let's talk about numbers because I think there's a lot of merits in this bill, but we have to go back to why it's in front of us, and the why for me is the $480 million that's contributed to political campaigns in this room. So, my apologies--

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, stick with the merit of the bill, and that is not--please don't engage in personal--please.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    I think I've, I think I've made my point. This is about profits and this is about how those profits are spread out in this room and why we have an affordability package that has a housing initiative for a very small portion of workers in California. I oppose this bill.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Perez, you are recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Yeah, I just, I want to take a moment to point out a couple of things. Well, first and foremost, you know, on the last piece of legislation, the discussion was around cutting profits to cut increased rates for ratepayers. That was the connection. It was the context of the bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    SB 681 is a bill that's focused on trying to address housing costs, particularly for many of our Californians that are often forgotten about, and that is renters. I appreciate, you know, the good Senator for putting together SB 681. We don't often have a conversation about the needs of renters.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Those conversations get very sticky when we start to have conversations about renters' protections, when we start to have conversations about what we could better do to improve that safety net. One of the things included in SB 681 that I think is important--because oftentimes what our folks need is direct assistance immediately.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    We know everybody is going through an affordability crisis right now in this very moment, and people need as much assistance as they can get. In this bill is a renter's credit; that's included.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    It raises the renter's credit from January 1, 2026 to January 1, 2031 to $500 for spouses filing joint returns, head of households, and surviving spouse filers, and $250 for all other tax filers, and I think that that's something that's really important because that's that kind of direct cash assistance that folks are going to be seeing.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But I appreciate the work that the Senator has done around this bill, and I also want to mention, you know, in working as a part of the affordability work group with the good Senator, we have been talking about these issues about how to resolve some of the challenges that renters are facing.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Before there were even any co-sponsors that came on to these bills, this was all a part of a discussion, and I want to recognize that in order to address some of these housing cost issues, it's going to take a multifaceted approach. There's a lot of different ideological theories even of people that are in this room.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    It's also going to take quite a large investment as well. So I think this is absolutely a step in the right direction, it's one of many approaches that we need, but really want to highlight again the Senator's focus that she's had on trying to lift up and improve the lives of renters.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This is a very focused and targeted bill and I appreciate the thoughtfulness that she's put into it and, and really want to emphasize that, that this is something that she wanted to move forward because she feels like they have been left out of the conversation, and in so many ways, as a renter myself, we absolutely have. Thank you, and I urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no other microphones up for discussion or debate, Senator Wahab, you may close.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I want to highlight a couple of things. You know, housing has always been a very personal issue for me, primarily because during the Great Recession, my family's home was foreclosed upon and that was a life-changing experience for me, and till this day, more than ten years after the Great Recession, I'm still a renter in hopes of becoming a homeowner. And this reality is one that millions of Americans experience, not just me.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And since I have been on City Council, renters' rights, homeownership, housing as a whole has been a priority of all the work that I've done, and this bill was largely worked on since last summer. That is why this is a big, beautiful bill addressing the needs of all people as it relates to housing. It addresses the concerns for renters when we're talking about the lowest income renters and those that specifically are in fixed incomes.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    It addresses the junk fees that people are dealing with when people want to get out of the Tenant Protections Act and charge more than the 10% ceiling. It allows and prioritizes homeownership, which is a goal of so many Californians. The number one issue across the state, poll after poll, city after city, is housing and homelessness, and this bill addresses a number of different things.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    We are doing something for everyone, and for the questions that were asked, even from the last bill that was presented, I do want to highlight, we are doing things for renters, and like I said, protecting them from fees that are just absolutely ridiculous at this point.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    We are protecting people who are homeowners that have a second mortgage that they thought was gone, and now ten plus years, they're getting hit with these fines out of nowhere. We are limiting the HOA fees that are assigned to people who are purchasing their starter homes, that are first-time homeowners, that are getting hit with these assessments and these fines out of nowhere and literally have no opportunity to pay for it and do much more.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    We are also helping developers build more and prioritize affordability with this bill. We are putting money in the pockets of renters when we're saying a tax credit to our lowest income individuals.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    We are prioritizing literally the dream of millions of Californians in every single way, making sure that affordable housing is a goal and a priority, making sure that we are addressing the needs of renters, which are largely not even discussed in this building, making sure that people have a future and a roof over their head.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And I deeply, again, appreciate the pro tem for allowing us to work on an affordability package, and I want to state this very clearly: in my conversations with the PT about this effort, it was before the election, it was before any dramatic situation that made everyone turn.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    I personally know that there are people in California suffering every single day with the rising cost of living, and this--tackling housing--one of the most controversial issues because it's the most personal issue to millions of Californians, whether you're a homeowner or a renter or a landlord or a developer.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    There is something in this bill for everybody, and I will also highlight that we work on legislation every single day and later ask for people who have the same goals to please support this bill because this bill helps Americans. This bill uplifts millions of Californians. It's the right thing to do, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Reading Clerk

    Person

    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab moves to call. We will now move to Item 55. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 638 by Senator Padilla and are relating inaccurate to career technical education.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Padilla, you are recognized.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President and colleagues. I rise to present SB638 and first want to start by thanking the pro tem thanking for my affordability Working Group Co Chair, the Senator from Hayward, SB 638 establishments, the California Education and Workforce Development Coordinating Entity and a Career Technical Education and Career Pathways Grant program.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    This is part of the Senate's recent and long efforts to deal with the question of affordability and is meant to strengthen job opportunities and educational and technical training for all Californians. Skill development, technical training and all forms of traditional education are a critical prerequisite to being able to have a livable and meaningful participation in California's economy.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    To put it simply, if your skills aren't marketable and you're not compensated because you lack those skills and those skills aren't valued in our marketplace, you're not paid livable wages. Living in California will never be affordable. And that's what this Bill is about.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Recently, a PPIC survey found that 70% 70% of Californians at large think that when children in California today grow up, they will be worse off financially than their parents. Moreover, about 60% of Californians think that achieving the American Dream is harder here in California than anywhere else.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Put simply, opportunity is slipping away from millions of Californians and their families primarily for three reasons. First, our education and workforce development system doesn't focus enough on broadening that path to technical training and vocational training. Those seeking opportunities outside of a traditional four year degree program often have fewer opportunities at skill development and learning.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Our income gap is growing rapidly and we are not churning out the workforce needed to meet the growing demands of our economy. This is reflected in recent statistics dealing with the interesting dichotomy about working poverty in California, coupled with the strength of of our economy as a whole.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Our education and workforce development system, to put it gently, is disjointed programs are spread through multiple agencies. These agencies often do not communicate or collaborate with one another.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    We have spent over $7.3 billion in a broad range of efforts and it is spread about different programs, plans, applications and requirements, making it sometimes difficult difficult for different communities to actively access and benefit.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    I've said many, many times since joining the Legislature that working poverty is a real present and rising threat to full and equitable participation in California's economy. In particular, a growing percentage of historically disadvantaged communities across California find themselves economically Standish.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Stranded rural and inland communities tend to have higher unemployment rates, lower levels of education completed, and more families struggling to put food on the table. A recent Calmatters article on dual enrollment entitled More High Schoolers Are Taking College Classes, but no Surprise which Students Benefit Most discusses these disparities.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Data shows that some of California's rural students, as well as males in particular and students of color color don't enroll or complete courses at the same rate as others. SB 638 seeks to finally coordinate state agencies and programs to serve Californians in a coherent way.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    It builds off years of analytical work by professionals in this space about the need for a coordinating entity, but goes farther to operationalize that in a meaningful way.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    It pulls together a broad set of stakeholders to coordinate interagency programming and across education and workforce development, as well as to adapt regulations to streamline career tech ed programs, career pathways and workforce development. Specifically to address regional disparities in the near term.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    This Bill creates a grant program designed to strategically inject resources in high unemployment, low income regions of the state for local education agencies to better be able to to adopt and create career tech ed and career pathways for historically underrepresented populations in partnership with our community colleges and our employers.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    We cannot afford an education system that leaves behind any segment of Californians. Our prosperity and the future of our children and grandchildren depend upon a highly skilled and diversified workforce. But in order to do that, we must fix it and we must invest in it. Members, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Senator Niello, you are recognized. Thank you, Mr. President. This is, I presume, the Bill that our pro tem was referring to in terms of building up the middle class. And Republicans have always been enthusiastic support of career technical education. This isn't anything new, but it doesn't do anything for the cost of living, to tell the truth.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Now, the problem with the Bill as it's been amended in the Appropriations Committee is that the provision of diversity, equity and inclusion has been injected into the Bill which will tend to include some and potentially exclude others.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    But to that point, I think everybody here has heard me mention time and again how Our K through 12 system completely disserves black and brown kids. People from disadvantaged areas generally, but black and brown kids, and especially black kids, the lowest performing cohort in the K12 system. And it's not because of inerrant ability.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    It's because we do not do a good job of paying attention to the quality of schools where those kids go.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    And if we were to bring them up so that they are at the same level of other kids when they graduate from high school, we don't have to worry about a DEI component in career technical education beyond high school.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Again, I will emphasize Republicans have always been enthusiastic supporters of career tech and could and in Committee previously has before the Bill was amended, which is, as I said, problematic. So all of that stuff is good.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    Let's do something about the complete disservice that graduates black and brown kids from high school without the basic skills to be able to get into competently the career tech education on the same footing as other kids. By all means, let's do that.

  • Roger Niello

    Legislator

    But let's not kid ourselves that somehow this is going to bring the cost of living in California down. It's not.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Seharto, you are recognized.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. This is not something new. That's something my colleague from Fair Oaks just said. And. And I know it's not something new because I've probably been in politics longer than a couple of you have been alive, believe it or not.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    And this was something we've been doing in Riverside County since I moved there in 91. Our local schools had career technical education being offered not in the abundance that it needed to be, but since then we've actually had many of these.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    The coordinating agency is of course, our redevelopment, not redevelopment, our workforce development agencies that are tied in with our chambers of commerce and all of the businesses that used to be in our communities.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    The problem that they're having if you go talk to them and go visit their schools, is that once they've got all these people trained, they don't have jobs for them because all the jobs that used to be here for them have left and they can't afford a house if they can find a job.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    So what do they do? They leave. So we're actually workforce developing people to come in and leave our state. That's not going to save us money. So this is a very important component. But the other important components are bringing businesses back to California, which goes back to what I said before, the regulatory environment is brutal here.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Go ask. I know we have the fourth highest gdp. I get it. But we better look at if that's the case, then what the hell is wrong with us? Because we're not getting the economic benefit from that that we should be. Otherwise we wouldn't have so many people complaining how unaffordable it is in California.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    So we're doing something wrong. We're doing some things right, but the dynamics are so off that we are not retaining these people in workforce. This is not a new concept, folks. So, you know, I feel like I'm voting for something we already have and pretending that it's going to make a huge difference, but not in affordability.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    We're going to have some needs for people trained in the workforce for building our building trades. The unions have a lot of these career technicals for post high school education. So I don't know how this equates into saving money for consumers. And therefore I'm a little bit neutral on the Bill. I like career technical education.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    I like people to have jobs. I like them to have a decision whether they should go to college or not go to college. This gives them that decision. It gives them an opportunity to make money. But we also have to provide that part too. And that part means getting rid of some of the regulations.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Let's go talk to other states and find out why. Just like yesterday with the movie industry. Why is it that it's better to do business elsewhere than here? We got to find that part out. We can't just keep doling out money and hoping that that patches it up.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    We have to find out the root cause of that and address that, not keep throwing band aids out there because we're putting band aids on things that need a tourniquet and it's not working. It's not working for our Californians. So with that, I would ask for a whatever you want to do on this Bill.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    And thank you for allowing me to speak on it.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Senator Smallwood-Cuevas, you are recognized.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. And I want to first thank the author, my joint author on this Bill, for all of his hard work and all of the Members of the affordability working Group who invested time and energy in this Bill. You know, my point on this is that this is about investing in people.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    This is about saying that the other side of affordability is anti poverty. The way we accomplish affordability is putting folks on a pathway of self sufficiency. And that means quality work. That means skills that are transferable.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    That means having an opportunity to work in a career where you have dignity and respect and can sustain your family in the State of California. As Chair of the Senate Labor Committee and also appointee to California Workforce Development Board, I know what good access means.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    It does mean that when you have a good job that pays you a real wage, particularly in a state where we now know that $100,000 qualifies as low income, we need people to have quality careers that pay them well so that they can afford the price of eggs, the price of housing, the price of health care and all of the things that allow our families to thrive.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    I strongly believe that we have to invest in workforce and be intentional, intentional about the kind of workforce that we are investing in in the State of California. We aren't investing in low road jobs that don't allow our residents to have the ends meet. We have to invest in real skill development and career opportunity.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    And that means like we are streamlining other processes to accelerate our ability to reach our goals, we've got to streamline our workforce strategies to accelerate the path to self sufficiency and a real living wage in a way that says we're going to identify ways and populations that are impoverished and build direct pathways out of that poverty into careers.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    We don't do that enough. And this is what this Bill is about. I want to also lift up the point that in response to the over 1 trillion in federal infrastructure investments that this Legislature had made clear commitments to build pathways to, now those dollars are in jeopardy. We don't have those investments.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    We will not have those jobs to take thousands, tens of thousands of our community Members into quality jobs because of this federal Administration. So we damn sure need to figure out how the State of California is going to make up for that as people are again unable to afford the basic things that they need in life.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    This is what this Bill is about. Affordability. We want to do more on affordability. I have been in that working group and we have talked into the wee hours about what people need to afford to live in California and what we can do.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    But again, our state is in fiscal crisis as we are staring down the barrel of these cuts that are going to make Californians suffer. Our people are going to suffer. So yeah, we're trying to figure out what can we do with what we have to make a difference in the lives of working people.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    And again, look at opportunities to turn anti poverty workforce strategies into self sustainability. SB638 builds on that commitment by not only creating new pathways in workforce but ensuring those pathways are included, inclusive, data driven and rooted in equity. And I want again to thank the author for working closely with me to strengthen this Bill in collaboration.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    We added an Equity and Accountability Subcommitee to the new coordinating body and it's a meaningful step to ensure an implementation that stays focused and intentional on including our most vulnerable populations in pathways to to jobs that exist that help to sustain them and their families.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    We know that the outcomes will make a difference in the immediate future for these families, but for generations to come. And I respectfully ask for your I.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Vote Senator Rubio, you're recognized.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Thank you Mr. President and ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, today I rise as a Member, proud Member of the Affordability Working Group and also as an advocate for education and workforce advancement. I'm also very proud to support this Bill because I think it's very thoughtful and forward looking measure.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    It really recognizes things that are very important for the success of our youth and of course it's better for economy in today's rapidly changing world. We must ensure that our educational system really aligns with real world skills and opportunities.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    SB638 moves in that direction by helping students streamline career pathways and making it easier for students to access the programs that will help them by establishing the California Education and Workforce Development Coordinating Entity. It just helps our students who are navigating such a complex system.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    I was sharing recently with a great Senator from Orinda that as a teacher I remember constantly hearing these stories after our students graduated, not knowing where to go or what to do because we failed to help them on the front end.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    And I also believe that many times we kept pushing over and over four year University higher education and sometimes it just doesn't work for everyone at the same rate.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    So I really think that this is a Bill that's thoughtful where it brings everyone together from educators, employers, government leaders to ensure that students are not just graduating, but they're graduating with a purpose, with preparation and opportunity. That's what we want. And we also know that if you make more money, life is more affordable.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    So this is about affordability and there's two sides to affordability. One is not only reducing cost, but helping them with higher wages. That is how we're going to help with affordability. And I also just want to say we have to really start rethinking the way we do things.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    We have to stop doing things with our traditional silos where everything works alone. We need to make sure that everyone comes together so that we could build stronger bridges between the classrooms, those that will help with career pathways. And I think this Bill is really thoughtful. It's really a thoughtful approach to policy.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    It doesn't just call for change, but it builds it intentionally by prioritizing coordination and accountability. It helps reduce barriers and expands access to programs that equip Californians for their future. So with that, I respectfully asked for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Perez. You're recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I wanted to take a moment to respond to the the Senator's comments from Fair Oaks. I know you know, he had some questions and concerns about how this is an affordability measure. And I want to highlight there's three bills that got presented today. Two of them are looking at immediate cost.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    We're talking about the rising cost of energy. We're talking about the rising cost of housing. We're looking at ways that we can immediately get dollars back into people's pockets. But this Bill, SB638 from the great Senator from San Diego, is looking at a longer term vision.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And that longer term vision is how do we make sure that our youth are prepared for jobs of the future. And in order to do that, we have to make sure that workforce is communicating with our education system, that we're actually preparing our students in a meaningful way for those different jobs.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And whether that means that that student chooses to go on to a community college and earn a certificate, or chooses to go on to a University and earn a four year degree or enter directly into the workforce, we have to make sure that all of those opportunities are there and available to them.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I'm the chair of Senate Education, but I have worked in the education space for many years before I got here to the Senate. And I can tell you one of the incredible things about about our huge public education system here in California is that people don't talk to one another. There's not a lot of communication that's happening.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And best practices that are being utilized in one district are not necessarily being shared or replicated in other districts. I heard the Senator from Murrieta share that there's an excellent program that's operating in his region that is fantastic. I've heard stories from other Senators on this floor about excellent workforce education programs that they have set up.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The point of this Bill is to create a coordinating body where folks can communicate with one another, share best practices, share best ideas so that we can see these things put into effect across the state. This is the kind of collaboration that we need to have.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    You know, you all have seen I've introduced bills in this space around creating apprenticeship programs. We need to ensure that we are doing the best that we can to educate our students. And I want to underscore something else that was shared earlier.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Yes, we have to do a better job of preparing and educating our black and Brown students. There are clear equity gaps that have persisted. This Bill is part of addressing that. Is it going to resolve all of the challenges that that are being faced within our education system? No.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This is an affordability Bill in the sense that it looks at our long term vision for how we are going to prepare our students to better enter into future jobs and future opportunities. We need to not just think in the short term. If we're not thinking about the long term, we are going to fail as a state.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I urge an aye vote. SB638 is absolutely needed. And thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Members, we have 39 more bills left to take up and I'm not speaking as to whether your comments are warranted or not. I'm just simply speaking scientifically that at the current rate of average time per Bill, we have nine hours ahead of us. Please be concise. Senator Caboldan, you are up next after that announcement.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you for that generous introduction, Mr. President. It was just over a decade ago that the entire Senate. The entire Senate, I think 38 of the Members of the Senate went to Long beach to understand workforce pathways and development.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I'm rising because as the former chair of the National Workforce Development Council and the former chair of all of the U.S. mayors for education and Workforce, because when we talk about coordination and alignment and silos, it can seem very abstract. But these are about real massive policy breakthroughs.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So as a result of those conversations that the Senate had in Long Beach with real people doing the work, we changed a simple law here at the time. If you took a course in Project Lead the Way in engineering in high school, half the courses did not qualify for admission to CSU. They weren't A to G.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    If you were enrolled in a Career Pathways health care program at Port Waenemi High School, Berkeley High School or Army High School in my district.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And you took Spanish for healthcare services, learning how to speak Spanish with a special focus on prescriptions, insurance forms and what have you, that course did not count for Spanish for CSU or for UC because it didn't cover the parts of the body in week one and the parts of a kitchen in week two.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Instead, it was covering actually useful, applied work. So as a result of the Senate visit, as we discovered that this was happening, it was a misalignment miscoordination between the institutions. The Senate pushed and we prevailed to translate all of these career technical education courses directly, map them directly into A to G the required courses.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    For UC and CSU, that was 14,000 career technical education classes which became instantly eligible simultaneously CTE and for the universities. And I mention this because we have so often talked about this being CTE versus college, but it isn't CTE versus college, it's about both.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And in fact, one of the largest provider of CTE in the state is the California Community Colleges.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Similarly, as the author noted, the breakthrough work that this Legislature has done on dual enrollment to assure that students don't waste their senior year, but can complete a workforce certificate, do an internship and earn a college degree and transfer over and over again, we have done these actions.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So when we talk about coordination and alignment, there are real challenges, real breakthroughs that we can achieve to advance workforce opportunity.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, if you'll give me a moment, folks, there's a lot of noise and chatter. Please take your conversations off the floor. Thank you very much.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Last week we passed a Bill on credit for prior learning so that students so that Californians who already learned something on the job or in the military can actually get credit and then build on that learning to improve their salaries at work or move into a higher level job.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we're working on badging systems to recognize the vast the tens of thousands of young Californians that are learning all kinds of skills on YouTube or volunteering at Habitat for Humanity, skills that they have, they don't actually need to be trained, but they are not marked, they're not transcripted anywhere.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so when we talk about coordination, as the author has so eloquently done, it isn't just about A group of CEOs of the universities and the workforce development boards coming together. It's about real breakthroughs that can bust through the kinds of calcified processes to open up massive educational and economic opportunities for Californians.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I as for an aye vote Senator. Jones, you are recognized.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate your comments earlier reminding us to be brief. I think that we've actually talked about these bills more than we've more time than it took to think about them or write them. I would like to ask the author a question, if that would be okay. Would the author take a question?

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    President I will, without objection. Thank you, Mr. President. I apologize. I did mean to ask the prior author this question as well.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    You may remember earlier today I made a motion to bring SB2 to the floor to Give all of us an opportunity to vote on affordability issues here in California, specifically the price of gasoline and lowering the price of gasoline 65 cents a gallon.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    My question, sir, to you on this particular Bill, SB638, what can the average California family expect to save as a result this year of SB638 going into effect?

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Mr. President, you may respond. Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Leader, thank you, my good friend, for your question. And I would sort of reject the premise in answer, affordability is not just about a near term relief of out of pocket expenses. It's not just about a near term or one term discount on an item.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    This isn't a discount package. This is an affordability package. And due respect, Mr. President and colleagues, I think our good friends on the other side of the aisle are for getting the ability part of affordability.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    And the answer to the question is if somebody living in California working two or three jobs right now, whose skills aren't marketable enough to participate in a meaningful way in this economy because they can't even qualify with three jobs for what we interestingly call affordable housing, for example, then that's a problem.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    And so what can Californians expect to save? Californians? If this Bill executes the way that it is intended and designed to do, it will open opportunities and efficiencies that don't exist. And furthermore, Mr.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    President and colleagues, I'm a little perplexed by my good friends on the other side of the aisle who nationally harp away at the need for integration, efficiency, reducing duplicity as a means to improving affordability and opportunity. And that is exactly what this Bill does.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate the attempt at an answer. I was trying to be specific as to what a dollar amount would be for this year. I do want to be clear that I support this kind of technical education. It is very important.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    My dad was a carpenter, construction worker, union carpenter, and then was able to transform that into his own business and build his own business. The author said he rejects the premise of the question. I'm going to reject the premise of the affordability package.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I think that really this is a messaging opportunity for the majority party to talk about affordability through these, through these three bills. I can't wait for the headline to come out that says Republicans vote no on affordability on the two previous bills.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I'm not sure exactly how this bill's going to go while the majority party is working on the affordability working group. I would encourage maybe next year or even this year. Republicans are more than happy to cooperate with the majority party, work in a bipartisan manner, and be a part of that Affordable Working Group.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I don't think any of us had the opportunity to participate in that. I will congratulate the working group. Out of 864 bills that were introduced in the Senate this year, three of them, you were able to come up with three that deal with affordability. I think Californians are very disappointed in that outcome.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Affordability is one of the top issues in California right now, and the working group comes up with three bills. I think rather than call it the Affordable Working Group, you should have called it Gavin Newsom's Gaslighting School. Senator, would you stay with the merits of the Bill? Thank you, sir. Yes, I will.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    The argument of the Bill is that this is to help make California more affordable. Mr.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    President, I would propose to you and all of us on the merits of this Bill and the two previous bills, that if there was valid affordability issues in those bills, the press would be lined up here to see what's going on on the floor.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I don't see any press cameras here trying to find out what's going on in the State Capitol regarding affordability and what SB638 does specifically to help Californians afford to stay here, work here and live here.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Mr. President, affordability, as has been said many times today, is an issue that all of us are responsible for addressing. I argue that these three bills are neither affordable nor a package, and I ask that we all vote our conscience on this bill, and let's try to work together before the end of the year and come up with something that actually is affordable for Californians. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Seeing no mics up for further a debate or discussion, Senator Padilla. Oh, I have another mic up. Senator Choi, you are recognized.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Thank you. I was going to vote for this bill and then I did so in the committee, but this bill is two large parts that I see is--this Career Tech Education is very important. I know it is right now kind of a trend. So this bill is aiming mainly two points.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    That is to create the workforce development coordinating entity and then to create the grant programs. But this Career Tech Education is--when the student chooses that career, I mean, it should be open to anybody. What troubles me is that it says that this bill is prohibiting a grant from being awarded unless the coordinating entity approves.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Based on what standard? What guidelines will they have to approve? I mean, that is questioning to me, and then also, likely the applicant will be assessed through the lenses of DEI eyes. Why education has to do with DEI? I mean this Career Tech Education can be open for anybody, and when they need the money, also needed the people should be applied--should be able to apply and get the grant when they choose that, not based upon their own unknown standard of a DEI lens. This really troubles me.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Choi. And now no other discussion or debate, Senator Padilla, you may close.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President, and I thank all the members for the vigorous debate. I would just say this: you cannot decouple opportunity from affordability. This package, I think, thoughtfully addresses a number of elements which are of immediate concern and does seek to provide quantifiable, well-identified, well-articulated savings to Californians in the near term.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    But ability is part of affordability. That means that if our folks living and working and endeavoring in the state don't have broader pathways to improve their skills and knowledge and training and education along many pathways, they will never be able to afford anything because it's about opportunity and skill development and investment in that skill development and education.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    And when we seek to do that in California, we should seek to do it in an effective and operational and meaningful way, which means we do take stock of the status quo and we do identify areas of improvement and redundancy and overlap and inefficiency because not only is that a good thing in government and not only does that ultimately reduce incremental cost to people who participate, but it makes more room for more people.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    And speaking, Mr. President and colleagues, of more room for more people, I would be remiss if I didn't address some of the colleagues by--our colleague from Fair Oaks and others that addressed the amendments in Approps dealing with DEI. It disturbs me greatly that diversity, equity, and inclusion in our discourse, political and otherwise, has suddenly become a dirty word because, Mr. President, I can't think of a bigger set of more American words than those three.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    You know, there's that old saying, 'rising tide lifts all boats,' but if all the boats aren't in the harbor, they can't rise. Affordability is linked to opportunity, and it is linked to the ability of everyone in California to participate in our economy.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    This bill seeks to make more room for more people, it seeks to improve and maximize the impact of how people can develop their education, skills, and training and be connected to our workforce and to our centers of labor and opportunity, and in the long run, creates more opportunity, reduces costs, and lets more people afford to live in California. Mr. President and colleagues, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call the roll.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes: 30; noes: three. The measure passes. We, we are going to lift the call on File Item 59. Lifting call on File Item 59. Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes: 28; noes: ten. The measure passes. Members, we're going to move back into file, reminder of the 39 bills we are facing. Going to Item 39. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 224 by Senator Hurtado an act relating to water.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Hurtado, you are recognized.

  • Melissa Hurtado

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Colleagues, SB224 doesn't require any graphs. It doesn't require a TED Talk has bipartisan support. All it needs is your Aye vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you for the awesome reset. Secretary Seeing no further discussion or debate. Secretary, please call the roll.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Hurtado moves the call. We will move to the next item, item 40. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 248 by Senator Rubio, an act relating to firearms.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Rubio, you are recognized.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and gentlemen of the senate, I rise to present SB 248. This is an important public safety bill that would promote responsible gun owners ownership and reduce gun violence. First and foremost, SB 248 makes no changes. I'm going to say it again.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Makes no changes to who can purchase guns or how to purchase a gun in California. But data shows that the right information at the right time can save lives. So this bill really just intends to educate.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    So what this bill does do is simply help educate gun owners and how to be responsible owners and how to keep their guns safe and away from their families. We also know, as we hear often, you know, children grab guns, their parents' guns, going to school and then shoot their, their friends.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    And that's the kind of thing that we want to avoid. SB 248 will only require California Department of Justice to send a letter with this information to gun purchases during their 10 day waiting period. So there's several things that they need to know that I think it's important. Number one, just best practices.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    How do we keep them safe and how do we store them safely away from children. Two, information on reducing the risk of suicide and domestic violence. We also know that there's a high risk of suicide and domestic violence incidents when there's a gun readily available. And three, reduces gun violence restraining order cases.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    This bill is supported by a coalition of organizations dedicated to reducing gun violence, including the Brady Campaign. Moms Demand Action at every town for gun safety. With that, I respectfully ask for an I vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. With all due respect to the author, the Department of Justice has not debt dated its current statutory mandated firearm summary on their website since 2022.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And if they're incapable of updating their own website to complet comply with existing law regarding this information to the public, how can we expect them to mail a new accurate letter of information to every firearm purchaser within 10 days during the waiting period, respectfully ask for a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no other microphones up for discussion or debate. Senator Rubio, you may close.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Thank you. I respectfully ask for an I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary. Call the roll.

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Rubio moves to call. We will move to item 41. Secretary, please call the roll. Or please read.

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    Senate Bill 261 by Senator Wahab, an act relating to employment.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. SB 261 supports local enforcement of wage theft judgments by requiring the Labor Commissioner's Office to create a public list of employers with outstanding judgments. It also authorizes additional penalties of three times the outstanding judgment after six months of nonpayment.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    The existing process to file and pursue a wage theft claim is long and burdensome, often taking months or years. Even after the LCO issues a judgment, employers often don't pay. The Legislative Analyst's Office found that workers reported collecting less than a fifth of the unpaid wages they were owed. Wage theft disproportionately affects vulnerable groups in our state.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Black and Latino workers, workers without college degrees, and non-citizens are all more likely to experience wage theft, according to a Rutgers study. We need to address wage theft seriously and give enforcement some teeth. This bill will help workers and advocates push noncompliant employers to pay what they are owed.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Wage theft affects millions of workers as well as their families and communities. It's also an unfair practice that hurts honest businesses. Californians deserve to be paid every cent they earn. SB 261 will put money back in the pockets of working Californians at a time when they need it most. I respectfully ask for an aye.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no debate or discussion, secretary, please call the roll.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab moves the call. We will move to item 42. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 331 by Senator Menjivar, an act relating to substance abuse.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you are recognized.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. This bill makes modest and meaningful changes to both the LPS and the CARE Act. You know, one of the biggest complaints we hear in the CARE program is that families or those who make the petitions are not allowed to stay within the process.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    And sometimes they're the most knowledgeable on their family member or their loved one in relation to their symptoms. So under this bill, courts will be able to assign ongoing rights to family members so that they can participate in developing CARE agreements and plans.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    The bill is also looking to align the definition or include chronic alcoholism with substance, substance use disorder. And finally, we're looking to define mental health disorder, which has drawn a couple of groups as opposition, as we've never defined a phrase that we drastically legislate all the time.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    However, let's remember that we conserve or place people on hold based on the symptoms they are portraying and not their diagnosis. Once a person is taken to a facility, that location is responsible for assessing and evaluating the person for holding.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    SB 331 is looking to ensure that once at that facility, there's a standard definition across California as a starting point to use a guidance to assess individuals. I once again reiterate my commitment to working with any stakeholders in crafting the definition that is acceptable to everyone. With that respectfully asking for an I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar moves the call. Members, we need you to return to the floor. If you are not on the floor, we need you to return to the floor. We will move to item 43. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 354 by Senator Limón, an act relating to insurance.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Limón, you are recognized.

  • Monique Limón

    Legislator

    Thank you, president and colleagues. SB 354 is a bill that updates current privacy laws regulating insurance that--which date back to the 1980s and have not contemplated all the ways that consumer data could be collected and shared. This bill will create a modern structure for protecting consumer privacy across the insurance industry.

  • Monique Limón

    Legislator

    I continue to work with the opposition. We are reviewing 50 pages of some of the feedback they've given us, and I do expect that this bill will come in a different form when it moves forward. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics up for discussion or debate, secretary, please call roll.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes: 27; noes: ten. The measure passes. Moving to Item 44. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 423 by Senator Smallwood-Cuevas, an act relating to inmate firefighters.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    This is a support-support measure. Senator Smallwood-Cuevas, you are welcome to present on a support-support.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I want to present SB 423, which reduces the barriers formerly incarcerated firefighters face when seeking employment upon release. This bill would ensure that those who are providing a tremendous service to keeping California safe from wildfire will have the opportunity to turn that experience into educational credits.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Additionally, this also authorizes the police chiefs of LA County Fire Department to establish a local handcrew pilot program for five years. This program will allow the Fire Chief direct authorization to select and enroll formerly incarcerated individuals into the program. The findings and evaluations and recommendations on the program would then be reported to the State Legislature. This bill has bipartisan support, and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. On the support-support bill, I support SB 423. I was sitting in committee and my husband called and said--or texted and said--'there's a fire at the ranch.' A couple of hours later, as he said, the ranch is on fire.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    When I got there on Thursday, there was crews that were coming from a local facility that allowed incarcerated or formerly incarcerated youth to be able to work on these fires and they worked very hard all through the night to make sure the ranch did not burn down.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    They should be entitled to these--and then not just on my ranch but on others--and they should be entitled to these skill sets to be able to use in their future endeavors. Respectfully ask for an aye vote, speaking very quickly.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    This item is eligible for unanimous roll call if there's no objection. Seeing no objection, ayes: 38; noes: zero. The measure passes. Item 45. Secretary, please call the roll.

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    Senate Bill 453 by Senator Stern, an act relating to energy.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator, you are recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, when public safety power shutoffs occur, micro grids help keep the lights on. We passed a bill about six years ago to provide incentives for lower income parts of California that needed these micro grid systems. We've got half that money out the door.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    This bill would put a shot clock on that money, so hopefully we can get the rest of that money out the door right away and keep people's lights on so the power doesn't go off on them. Respectfully ask for your I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Seeing no mics up for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I's, 38. No's, 0. The measure passes me. Moving to support support item 46. Secretary, please call. Or please read.

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    Senate Bill 483 by Senator Stern, an act relating to criminal procedure.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    You are recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you. Members, SB 483 would standardize mental health diversion procedures by clarifying the defendant needs to understand the treatment plan they're agreeing to before mental health diversion is granted. Bipartisan support on this bill. Respectfully ask for your I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no other mics raised for discussion or debate, this item is eligible for unanimous roll call. Is there objection? Yes, we have objection. Secretary, please call the roll.

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I's, 37. No's, 0. The measure passes. We are, if I can make an announcement real quick, we are joined by former Assembly Member Manny Perez and chair of river, who is chair of Riverside County Board of Supervisors. Welcome to the Senate Chamber. Good to have you here. We will now move to item 78.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Item 78. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 357 by Senator Menjivar, an act relating to juveniles.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar, you are recognized.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Colleagues, I know we've been trying to go fast and I usually don't talk long, but bear with me. This is a topic that is really serious and deserves a lot of background on this because it is one of those crunchy bills.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    If you were on Public Safety, I read you off a long list of a timeline of what's happening in LA County, specifically LA Probation. I'm not going to go through the entire list, but I want to share with the rest of the body some high-level things.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Since early 2000s, LA Probation has been dealing with some horrendous issues. As early as 2006, the U.S. Department of Justice put the probation under federal supervision because of reports of abuse. They have been found to have violated constitutional rights of juveniles in their care as early as 2008.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    From 2022, article after article in the local newspapers talked about a call-out culture, staffing shortages that led to lockdowns, and individuals being held for 24 hours in lockdown. The ombudsperson during that time would visit and saw urine coming out of their stalls because they weren't let out to go urinate and use the restrooms because of lack of staffing.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Seventy women, young women, filed lawsuits alleging sexual assault that just this month or just two months ago, LA County is about to settle on a $4 billion settlement to address those sexual assault cases.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    A youth in the probation juvenile hall in my district overdosed and died less than two years ago because there wasn't enough staff to do their mandated walkarounds and he overdosed and died at night because they weren't checking in on the individuals in their care.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Three months ago, our Attorney General filed an indictment on 30 LA probation officers for running gladiator fights, and just today, early this morning, LA County came to a settlement of $2.7 million that is going to be awarded to the teen that was beat up during the gladiator fights.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Just this year, two judges have asked LA Probation to shut down. Our state department or BSCC has found LA Probation to be still operating under violation of our findings because they don't have enough staff, no services are being provided. Judge rules unlawful for Los Padrinos--which is a juvenile hall in LA County--to continue housing juveniles.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    But what has been happening in the past ten years is that they'll move juveniles from one unfit and unsuitable location to another unsuitable location and the problems keep coming back. It's playing pinball with juveniles. Just two months ago, nine kids overdosed, but no one died, luckily.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Just two months ago, about three to four juveniles escaped one of the locations. They were found and brought back. In one day, 60% of probation officers are calling out. On Super Bowl, they are not showing up. Holidays, they are not showing up.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    My bill is asking and is permissive to allow LA County to turn to another county-endorsed--county-approved entity to supplement, to help address the issues in LA County. This bill is specific to LA County. With the recent amendments that I myself introduced, I said a county of a minimum of six million individuals.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    No other county is going to be able to meet that. With the amendments that I introduced, I said that no role that is held by a peace officer can be replaced. With the motion that was unanimously approved by LA County Board of Supervisors--because this is an ask from my local board of supervisors--they put in their motion that this would not change the relationship between probation officers and the courts, that probation officers will still be the ones responsible with providing recommendations.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Now I've heard--I've been having various conversations with almost every single one of you, concerns regarding, 'well, could this have an impact with other counties even though this is specifically to LA County? What about transfers?' Two things I'll say to this.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    There is no county outside of LA County that is looking to transfer your juveniles to my probation department because in my probation department kids are dying and kids are being beat up. The only thing that could potentially happen is transferring juveniles from LA County to your county, but the MOUs that exist for those transfers are between a county and a county and it's not between a probation department and another probation department.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Since my bill does not touch on MOUs between counties, does not change any established--any procedures there, it is not going to impact your county. Another concern is that, 'well, another bill is going to be introduced to expand to statewide.' Unless you, the legislator representing that specific county, is looking to introduce a bill to expand it, I am not going to expand it respectfully. I am worried about LA County and LA County only.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    So that is up to you if you are looking to expand it. The opposition will say, 'well, this is a public safety issue. We are the only ones that are responsible for these juveniles.' Right now in LA County, the adults on probation in the field are not being supervised because the field probation officers have been pulled out of the field to come into the juvenile halls because of the lack of staffing.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    The opposition will say it's going to disrupt their relationships with the court. I have with me, I have--well, I didn't ask for permission. I have with me, and I'm able to share with you a reasoning--well, with the permission of the president, I'd like to read.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Without objection, such shall be.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    I have with me and a request of continuance from LA Probation as to why they can't appear to court. 'At this time, Probation does not have'--verbatim--'does not have adequate staffing in the field to prepare a sufficient report for the court's consideration, therefore, a continuance respectfully requested.' They can't even show up to court. They don't have enough staff. No services are being provided to our juveniles. When I visit these juvenile halls, they're just watching TV.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    I'm just asking that you let my County Board of Supervisors have another tool in their toolbox. This isn't going to solve everything. The Attorney General has already noted that they're going to--he wants to put LA County Probation under receivership. So many courts are getting involved.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    There is trailer bill language right now in the budget proposed by the governor to give more teeth to our BSCC, but those teeth aren't going to solve everything. They're just asking for the ability to come investigate more than they do now because they only investigate twice a year. SB 357 is another tool in the toolbox.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    What's hurting our kids? The public safety issue is the safety of our kids. The Department of Youth Development by the county is there to provide the services and services only. They are not going to be the ones that are in charge of the security. Only peace officers, post-certified individuals, hold that responsibility, and you need them but you also need the social workers, the individuals that are going to run arts and crafts, the individuals that are going to teach the education.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    We need them to work hand in hand, and this bill not getting off the floor--if this bill doesn't get off the floor today, you are handcuffing my Board of Supervisors to expand their ability to address this very serious situation in LA County. So I'll end here with asking, colleagues--LA County is suffering. The kids under LA Probation are suffering. It's not about throwing more money at it.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    They have $25,000 sign-on bonus to get more probation officers. Audit has shown that we have, unspent, $88 million in LA County, $88 million that can be used for services, $88 million that can be used for hiring more individuals. It's not a money issue. It's a lack of staffing and they need support, and SB 357 is a tool that I think is needed. This is why I'm asking respectfully for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Becker, you are recognized.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Thank you. Just a quick moment to say that--chime in--so we cannot and must not ignore the deeply disturbing documented failures within our juvenile justice system, from the horrific incidents captured in the LA Times video showing the fight club and other things to the significant settlements that we just heard about paid out for sexual abuse. It's a stark reminder that this is unacceptable and we have a moral imperative to protect the young people in our care, and respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Perez, you are recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of SB 357 and want to recognize the good Senator from the San Fernando Valley for bringing this forward. This is a necessary measure. We have seen in the Los Angeles area article after article about the absolute crisis that is happening in our juvenile detention centers.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Everything from gladiator fights--the good Senator just spoke about the overdoses that we've seen. And why is this happening? The Los Angeles Times held an investigation. On one weekend, they found that 50% of probation officers that were supposed to be present had called off.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    You even had the LA County Probation Chief himself claim that there is a toxic call-out culture amongst staff. We've seen over $4 billion have to be paid because of multiple lawsuits of inappropriate actions that have happened within these centers, and frankly, it's because there is no oversight. There needs to be accountability here.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    You know, the LA County Board of Supervisors wants to see this measure pass because they need to take action, and this is the kind of action that that is needed and necessary. SB 357 has been worked on. I've talked directly with some of the LA County Board of Supervisors who are desperate for change. This is us working in partnership with them to make sure that we can deliver. So urge an aye vote. These kids need justice, they need accountability; this is a part of that.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to ask a few questions of the author, if at all possible.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Author, will you take questions?

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please proceed.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Two of my counties, the three I represent, are in opposition to this bill. It's a tough bill for me because I listen to your heart on Budget Sub Three and I hear what happens in the Los Angeles County.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I looked up every article that you shared with me to verify that what you were telling me were true--not that I didn't believe you or anything--but I just verified it and looked it up. I looked at the settlements on the gladiator issues, I looked at the overdose deaths, the stuff that was reported in the paper that was happening at these juvenile facilities down in Los Angeles County. So will you confirm again that this is--this MOU is between counties and not probation departments?

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Through the president, confirming that the MOUs that occur that are in place for transfers only occur between county to county.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And these--again, I've several questions, just to confirm. Would you like me to ask every time or just proceed with the questions?

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    No, just proceed if the author's okay.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    If the author's okay?

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    The author's okay with endless amount of questions.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Okay. Is it true that LA County transfers are coming to different counties but no one is transferring our juvenile justice kids to LA County because of the atrocious actions that are taking place in LA County?

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    You know, when I made that statement, I want--I don't want to, I don't think I want to be completely quoted. I would say I'm assuming, given the situations that are happening in my county, that your county would not want to transfer your youth to a county that has these many problems and is under court order to shut down. So it was just in a assumption, not a direct fact. I could get back to the author on finding if that is in fact true.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Is it true that your, this bill is a district bill and does not cover counties with one million people?

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    This, this bill, after amended, it originally said 3.5 million. We heard that potentially, maybe even San Diego can grow to 3.5 million, so I upped it up to six million individuals minimum so only LA County is eligible for this bill.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    So it's fair to say that a county with two million people or under a million people is definitely not covered in this bill?

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    That is correct.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Okay. I realize that two of my counties are on opposition to this and I understand their concerns, but I really feel like the author has addressed these concerns, and if this situation was happening in my counties where these individuals were being treated the way they're being treated in LA County, these are kids, and yes, some of them are in there for most heinous crimes--rape, murder--but they still--even though they're serving a sentence or serving in a juvenile facility--they still should be able to serve with dignity and respect, abide by the rules, follow the rules, all of those things.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And then the last thing that I wanted to say was that one of the comments of the reason for opposition is because they should not have mental health workers doing a police officer or an officer's job. Well, obviously in LA County, that is not helping the situation and it's actually making it work, so why not try something new? It's a definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I believe the author of this bill is bringing forth something that is trying to help these individuals that are just as impacted in LA County, only LA County, and it's a district bill and respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Senator Richardson, you are recognized.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. First of all, I want to commend the efforts of the author. If I ever needed to pick a team and pick members to be on my team, you would certainly be one of the first ones I would pick. You're tough, you research your issues, and you do absolutely what is best.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    I would just like to add though, a little food for thought. I probably will not be voting for this measure and I'll share with you why. One, I just really wanted to express concerns. I don't--I'm not convinced that this is an issue of probation officers and I heard quite a few comments referencing that, and I think we have to be very careful of assuming that that is the ultimate problem.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    It's my understanding that Los Angeles has had probably three, four, five, six individuals who are supposed to have been responsible for this department and have failed to do so. I believe an audit was authorized by this very body of what's going on in Los Angeles. So I think in addition to the efforts of the author, there's also additional things that we need to look at or what are the causes.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    I did have an opportunity to go to Orange County to the juvenile center, and I will say it was well run. There were amazing programs, the young people seem motivated, and so what that tells me is, it's possible. So we have to understand why is it happening in one community and it's not happening in another.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    So my only concern is, is this the way to get there? But I do want to stress to everyone I believe the author is well-intended. She's done an extended amount of work, and like me, when I bring something forward, it's because you see a problem and you don't want to sit and just look at it. You want to fix it. So I commend her efforts for taking the bull by the horns and doing that effort. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no further discussion or debate, Senator Menjivar, would you like to close?

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. The Senator from Bakersfield and the Senator from San Diego have been purviewed to ongoing conversations in Budget Sub Three on these very issues, more so the Senator from Bakersfield who's been with me for the past three years on the subcommittee, and the past three years, we've had ongoing informational hearings on this very topic and we've brought in representation from other counties, and to answer--or to respond to the comment from the Senator from Los Angeles, we know why it's working in other probations.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    For example, Sonoma Probation Department is phenomenal because they've opened their doors to collaboration with service providers because they welcome CBOs into their probation halls to work alongside them.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    In LA County, on any given day, LA probation officers will change the guidelines on service providers like ARC from entering their doors. Every day is a different rule. They have the sole authority to reject or allow any service provider to come inside their juvenile halls to provide services.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Teachers--and this is a fact--teachers are being denied entrance into juvenile halls because they're bringing in highlighters and writing utensils so they can teach the course. That means teaching is not happening at probation officers. I've been a legislator for three years. These issues have been happening for over 20 years.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    I can't call or name off the top of my memory any other LA delegation member that has brought up a bill of any other kind of solution to this situation. This might be the first one. I recommend and challenge any other legislator, if there's another idea, introduce that bill, but this is the first bill that's been introduced to look to address it on the state level regarding these issues. It may not be the sole, again, the sole driving nail to address the issues, but it's the status quo is not working.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    The status quo is ensuring that these kids, once they get released, will be automatically transferred to adult prison, and as we're looking to close down our adult prisons, we need to make sure the kids in our juvenile halls are successfully rehabilitated and are not in the pipeline into adult prisons.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Once again, colleagues, this is a bill that's specifically to LA County and LA County only. Please help my board of supervisors get an extra tool in their toolbox to address the situation, and if it doesn't work, we're always going to come back to the table and readdress.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    And once again--and one last thing--this won't be implemented in tomorrow. There are negotiations that need to happen, MOUs need to be drafted up on depicting and delineating what duties are going to be done. It's a long process. We just want to get started sooner rather than later. Respectfully, hopefully, urging y'all please, for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator, for your close. Secretary, please call roll.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes: 24; noes: five. The measure passes. Members, we will move back in file to Item 47, a support-support bill. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 498 by Senator Becker, an act relating to hygiene products.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Thank you. This bill is trying to wash away the very unjust practice of denying essential hygiene products to people who cannot afford them. Currently, these indigency level thresholds vary dramatically across California, creating a system that denies many incarcerated people access to basic hygiene necessities. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics up for discussion or debate, this item is eligible for unanimous roll call. Without objection. Seeing no objection. Ayes: 38; no: zero. The measure passes. Moving to Item 48. Secretary, please read.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 500 by Senator Stern in equity to electricity.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Senator Stern, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. President. If we're serious about affordability, that means. We need to take a harder look. At reforms of the public utilities commissions. Existing standard operating procedures. This Bill puts forward a new tool for their consideration.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Performance based incentives to ensure that utilities are rewarded when they actually take down rates, when they make things more affordable for people. I'll continue to work together with all the stakeholders to deliver better results for all Californians. Respectfully ask for your aye vote seeing. No mic except for discussion or debate.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read or please call the roll.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Allen? Aye. Alvarado. Gill. Aye. Archuleta. Aye. Araguin, I. Ashby, I. Becker, I. Blakespear, I. Cabaldin, I. Caballero. Aye. Cervantes, I. Choi. No. Cortese, I. Dali. No. Durazo, I. Gonzalez. Aye. Grayson. Aye. Grove. No. Hurtado. Aye. Jones. No. Laird. Aye. Limon. Aye. Mcguire, McNerney? Aye. Menjivar. Aye. Niello. No. Ochobok? No. Padilla. Aye. Perez. Aye. Reyes. Richardson. Aye. Rubio.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Sierto? No. Small Workuevas, Stern. Aye. Strickland. No. Umberg. Aye. Valadez? No. Wahab. Aye. Weber. Pearson. Aye. Wiener. Aye. Alvarado, Gill? I don't know. Secretary, please call absent Members. Mcguire, Reyes, Rubio. Aye. Smallwood, cuevas. Aye. Ayes 28.

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    Alvareto, Gilbert.

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    Alvarado-Gil. I don't know.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    All right. I's, 28. No's, 10. The item, the measure passes. We're moving to item 49. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 536 by Senator Archuleta, an act relating to insurance.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Archuleta, you are welcome to present on a support support item.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Today I am presenting Senate Bill 536, which will empower insurers and license rating organizations to identify when employers are fraudulently withholding premium by comparing what is reported to them, what is reported to the Employment Development Department.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 536 is also designed to provide tools for the Employment Development Department to identify and prevent tax evasion. The insurer or license rating organization is required to report all suspected premium fraud back to the Employment Development Department. California sees underreporting of payroll in tens of millions of dollars each day each year. Let me repeat that again.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    California sees underreporting of payroll in the tens of millions of dollars each year, providing an unfair advantage to employers cheating the system, which in essence hurts the employees. With these suspected bad actors identified, it is to the insurance industry that is seeking help.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    The Employment Development Department will be able to focus on resources on recovering taxes from employers attempting to evade their responsibilities to the state of California.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 536 is needed due to substantial underreporting or misreporting of payroll to insurers by dishonest employers, which directly impacts the competitiveness of honest businesses who face higher rates than they would face if all employers reported accurately.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    It is expected that restitution of premium fraud due to Senate Bill 36 will amount to tens of millions, potentially even hundreds of millions of dollars. We remember, during the pandemic, EDD and the loss of their billions and millions of dollars. This bill is a win win for California.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 536 will bring costs down for honest employers, including the state itself, and target bad actors who are cheating the system. This bill has no opposition, has received unanimous bipartisan support. It is supported by a broad correlation of groups including the insurance industry, district attorneys, labor unions, and the California Chamber of Commerce, among others.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    I respectfully asked for your I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics up for discussion or debate. This item is eligible for unanimous roll call without objection. Seeing no objection. I's, 38. No's, 0. The measure does pass. Item 50.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 562 by Senator Ashby, an act relating to bail.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    You are recognized.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. We'll hope that side of the room stays with the mics down. I rise to present SB 562, this bill is extremely narrow. It only does one thing.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    It says that if you are arrested and you post bail and no charges are ever filed or there is a dismissal within 21 days of your arrest, that you should get a percentage of your bail back. There is still a 20% capture for the bail bonds company and all of the court fees would be paid.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    The point of this bill is that no one should be left in debt because they were wrongfully arrested. The average bail in California is $10,000. That's the amount you would pay. That's on a $100,000 ask. On a $50,000, you would need 5,000. Unless you have that money yourself.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    You need to work with a bail bonds company. Right now, people are arrested, they pay $10,000 to bail out. No charges are filed. They don't get any of their money back. SB 562 remedies that. I respectfully ask for an I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Seyarto, you are recognized.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. This bill needs to be so narrow that I can't even see it in order for me to support it. And here's the reason why. Because this can result in people spending more time in jail than if we had a bail system.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Because this is. Because, remember, bail is just a business. And in the business, they have to weigh risk versus gain when they're doing bail. Currently, everybody can get bail. This system would cause them to have to evaluate whether somebody is going to fall under what you're talking about. And if they don't, they won't give them bail.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    They won't. They will not offer their services to that person, and that person will stay in jail instead unless they come up with the bail. So there are remedies for people that are falsely arrested to regain money and make themselves whole. Yes, It's a legal system, but there are remedies for that.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    And I think we are going to complicate it and make it worse if we try to adjust the bail in this manner. So with that, I ask for a no vote on 562. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no other mics up for discussion or debate, Senator Ashby, you may close.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    I will just reiterate that the bill allows a 20% fee from whatever the amount paid on bail was for the bail bonds company. Respectfully ask for an I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I's, 24. No's, 11. The measure passes. Members, we're moving to item 52.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 601 by Senator Allen and act relating to water.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Allen, you are recognized.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, Mr. President. For many, many decades, the Federal Clean Water act has served as an important protector of our waters in the nation. We lived under the regulations and a definition of what constituted protected waters in the United States and continued to do so. But in 2023, the U.S.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Supreme Court in the SACA decision significantly narrowed the definition of wotus waters of the United States to not apply to certain wetland streams and even rivers that occasionally dry up. Now, that made a lot of sense from an East Coast hydrological perspective.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    But in the west, we know that there are a lot of important waterways that are not continuously running 365 days out of the year.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Now, we do have our own water protection system under Port of Cologne, which does continue to regulate waters, but it lacks some of the protections that the Clean Water Act, the federal Clean Water act provided. And of course, there were also enforcement tools under the. Under the Clean Water Act that Porter Colon did not provide. So those.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    So we were seeking. We were seeking with this bill to continue the protections under the Clean Water Act for the types of waters that were previously protected under the definition of waters of the United States before the SACA decision came down in 2023.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Now, we've made an agreement to the current Clean Water act is enforceable by a private right of action. We have agreed to drop that, and we've committed to working with the opposition on a different enforcement system, and it would include public prosecutors.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    We're also looking to work with the opposition to narrow further the definition of potentially protected waters in the United States, in line with both the Kagan concurrence on the Sackett decision and also the Kavanaugh concurrence that was joined by Justices Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson as part of the SACA decision that came down in 2023.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    But this is ultimately about, you know, The Clean Water Act has played a really important role in protecting our waters here in California.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    In fact, there was an action that led to, you know, back in 1999 in my neck of the woods, it led to a 90% decrease in sewage pollution discharged into Santa Monica Bay, which has protected generations of Angelenos and families. Just simply wanted to go swimming. That's what this is all about.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Senator Alvarado-Gil, you are recognized.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    And I ask for an Aye vote.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    Thank you. I rise in respectful opposition to Senate Bill 601 by our Senator. At its core, this bill attempts to circumvent the U.S. Supreme Court's 2023 decision in Sackett vs. The EPA, but by creating a vague new category of nexus waters and layering on costly, duplicative and potentially litigious regulatory regime.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    But what Senate Bill 601 offers an ambition it lacks in clarity, coordination and fairness. So let's be clear. California has already taken significant steps to preserve and protect our wetlands and our waterways.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    Our state agencies and leadership, including our Governor are our Attorney General and the State Water Board have all confirmed that California's environmental safeguards remain intact despite the Sackett decision. In fact, the State Water Board has already is already conducting a thorough analysis of the impact of Sackets.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    And a written report is due to this body by January 1st of 2026. We are putting the cart before the horse here, pushing forward broad changes before we even have a full picture of the problem we are attempting to to solve. So, colleagues, Senate Bill 601 is not a solution. It's a liability.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    It will create regulatory chaos, inviting litigation and threatening and threatens to stall critical housing and infrastructure projects without offering any measurable environmental gain. So let's not undermine the work our agencies are already doing. Let's not write more black blank checks for unnecessary litigation. Let's not pass a Bill that confuses more than it clarifies.

  • Marie Alvarado-Gil

    Legislator

    So I'd like us to allow the State Water Board to complete its report, then guide us based on real evidence, not speculation. We have the ability to carry two year bills in this body and I respectfully urge a no on this bill. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Seyarto, you are recognized.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. In respect to our financial situation in California, our unaffordability, anything that says creates a private right of action adds to that problem in California. And we do not need that. I respectfully asked for a no vote on SB601.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Cabaldon, you are recognized.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Just rise. I had some. Some significant concerns about the application of the bill, the private right of action and the scope. I served for eight years as a Democratic and a Republican appointee on the Regional Water Quality Control Board, have some experience in this regard. But the amendments that the Senator has described.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Meet those. Meet those. The immediate issues and also the commitment to try to get this tuned exactly right. As he noted, it was a unanimous Supreme Court decision to undo SAC in its nexus test. So the question is just what is the correct, what is the correct scope here?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    The center from Santa Monica has clearly articulated and committed that he's going to be working on to get that right. To make sure that we do protect California agriculture in particular, was important to me. And with those commitments, I urge and Aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Cortese, you are recognized.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. First of all, I want to say I appreciate very much the author's efforts in this regard and many other similar issues, water issues, particularly when we have had discussions. I think the author has begun to move in the direction of clearing up some of my concerns.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I am not going to be able to support the bill today, particularly because of what I would call the range Association issues with Gray's Land, of which, believe it or not, I have massive amounts of acreage between, you know, the heart of Santa Clara County and the districts east of me all the way to Stanisaw and Alameda.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And those folks are, are scared and concerned about implications and I need to stand with them today.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    But I'm absolutely willing and if my thoughts are accepted going forward on the bill, if the bill moves forward today, to try to work out some of those concerns, to make sure that folks in those kind of environments, you know, are not caught in, you know, in a situation that's just a lose, lose situation for them, despite the good intentions of the bill.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no other mics up for discussion or debate. Senator Allen, you may close.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Yeah, thank you for the discussion. Just to clarify, from my friend from Marietta, I did say that we are, we're dropping the private right of action. It's something that is in the, the federal Clean Water Act Enforcement System. But I understood that was an area of some concern to Members.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    You know, we are looking to narrow the definitional, the definition of waters so as to address some of the agricultural concerns that have been raised by my friend from San Jose. You know, I don't think anyone. But we still want to make sure that there's a, there's some, there's some protections there.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    So that's going to be the work going forward. We're very committed to working with folks from Ag and business interests as the bill moves. And then my only final comment to one of the questions raised. You know, with so much respect, we're all looking forward to this report from the Water Board, but I don't know that it's.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    You know, at least with regards to relevance to this bill, we don't need a report to let us know that polluting discharge into, you know, into waterways is bad. So a lot more work to do. But I respectful and I vote on this important measure to protect our waters. Thank you. Secretary, please call the roll.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 22. Noes, 12. The item or measure passes. Moving to item 53. Secretary, please call or please read.

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    Senate Bill 613 by Senator Stern.

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    An act relating to greenhouse gases.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Stern.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Stern, you are recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, we import the large majority of our oil and gas to this state. Most of our gas comes from Colorado, New Mexico, Texas, Canada, and elsewhere. And then on the petroleum side, we import about 50% of our oil from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Ecuador, Brazil, Guyana and Canada.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    This state is the largest consumer of petroleum in the entire world, besides the US And China. So while we are climate leaders, we are also still a major part of the problem. This bill hopefully will bring some transparency to our supply chain and look further upstream for the imports that we're bringing in.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    We know our in state producers are subject to some of the highest standards out there. But often the petroleum that we import isn't subject to those same standards and sometimes has sparse, if not non existent, emissions data. So we'll hopefully make some progress on that front by working with both the PUC and the Air Board.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    And with that, a respectfully ask for your I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Forgive me if I fall over. I want to thank the author for bringing forth SB 613. Thank you. This bill requires state agencies to prioritize strategies to reduce methane emissions, including emissions from imported petroleum and natural gas.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    For the fourth year in a row, I have introduced SB 13 to try to get some state agency in our state to look at the energy supply, where it comes from and considering the environmental impacts and and human rights of importing oil from countries that do not have California's values.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Your bill, SB 613 is focused on methane emissions, which I think is absolutely positively crucial. Iraq, for instance, as you mentioned, is California's number one source for foreign crude oil.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    But it's responsible for the worst methane flaring in the entire world, releasing millions of metric tons of car, of toxic chemicals, not just carbon emissions into the atmosphere. A couple of years ago, the New York Times had a headline that said in Iraq burning gas poisons in the air.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And recently the Iraqi prime minister admitted the county's methane's release, or the country's methane's releases, were responsible for a surge in the cancer rates in that country. Yet California continues to send 5.5 billion dollars to this country every year to meet the needs of California's consumption on oil.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    That doesn't make sense when it can be produced here by Californians for Californians. When we control the process and we don't have to have ships bring us those that oil that's produced in Iraq at roughly 126 million metric tons of carbon emissions across our ecosystem. So, question the author.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Author, take a question. Please proceed.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I know that you're aware how important this issue is to me and thousands of people in my district that have lost jobs and are hanging by the balance in California's energy policy. Because of the policy.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    One of the other issues that my bill asks for is require CARB to measure carbon emissions from tanker ships from the point of origin to point of destination. Right now, those ships come from foreign countries that you mentioned in your comments, but they are only. CARB only calculates the emissions 12 miles off our coastline.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    It's not apples to apples and it's not oranges to oranges. Is that something that you would consider addressing in your bill going forward?

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Yes, I supported your legislation and I think I look forward to working with the administration to look further upstream. We shouldn't be subjecting our in state producers to a stricter standard than those outside of our jurisdiction. I think we need to put that same scrutiny at our borders.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you. Respectfully ask for an I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no other mics up for discussion or debate, Senator Stern, you may close.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Respectful ask for an I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you so very much. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call for absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I is 36. No, 0. The measure passes. We will move to item 54.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 633 by Senator Blakespear, an act relating to beverage containers.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear, you are recognized.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Colleagues, I rise today to present SB 633, which will require beverage container manufacturers to verify the amount and origin of the recycled plastic that they use via a third party certification process and to report that data to CalRecycle.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Although many popular drinks proudly advertise the amount of recycled plastic in their bottles, there is currently no verification process for these claims. In fact, recycled plastic is indistinguishable from new plastic after it has been processed by reclaimers and made into pellets or flakes.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Recent reporting has found evidence that new plastic is masquerading as recycled plastic and at least some of the plastic that's imported into the state of California. A robust third party certification of this plastic would help regain trust in the recycling system and encourage more sustainable business practices. I respectfully ask for your I vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    And seeing no microphones raised for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I's, 26. No's, 10. The measure passes. Item 56. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 655 by Senator Stern, an act relating to housing.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Stern, you are recognized for your Support Support Bill.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, it's too hot. And this bill would say going forward that we'd be looking for Housing and Community Development to have some kind of maximum safe indoor air temperature at 82 degrees for new residential dwelling units based on the recommendations of a report generated from AB 209 in 2022. Respectfully ask for your Aye vote

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no other mics raised. Seeing no mics raised for discussion or debate. Okay, this item is eligible for unanimous roll call. Ayes, 38. No, 0. The measure passes. Moving to another Support Support Bill. Item 57.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 675 by Senator Padilla and ACC relating to environmental quality.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Padilla, you are recognized.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President. I rise to present SB675. As you well know, the Jobs and Economic Improvement Through Environmental Leadership act of 2021 authorized government. The Governor. Excuse me to speak. Certify ELDPs that meet extraordinary environmental standards in order to qualify for streamlining.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    This bill applies the ELDP streamlining to a Waterfront ELDP specific project on the waterfront of downtown San Diego. This development will create new parks, plazas, promenades, gathering spaces, restore visitor access to the waterfront and exceeds strongly LEED gold standards. It encourages early coordination between agencies, promotes transparency and reduces duplicity and gives applicants clarity, predictability and fairness.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask for an Aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics raised for discussion or debate.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Padilla moves the call. Let's move to item 58. Item 58, Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 680 by Senator Rubio. An act relating to sex offenses.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Rubio, you are recognized.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, I rise to present SB 680, a public safety bill that protects our communities and strengthens California sex offender registration laws to protect vulnerable girls from exploitation.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Under existing law, adults who engage in specific sexual acts, like oral sex or sodomy with a minor who is more than 10 years younger than them are automatically required to register as sex offenders.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    However, if those same adults engage in sexual intercourse with the same minor who is more than 10 years younger than them, existing law does not require them to register as sex offenders.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    This does not make sense to protect some minors and not others, and it leaves young girls without the full protection of the law, and they also deserve the protection. SB 680 will fix the loophole. The Bill will treat all types of unlawful sex with the minor the same and require sex offender registration if an adult is having sex with the minor.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Bottom line, they have to register. 6—SB 680—is supported by a broad coalition of law enforcement professionals and victims' advocates, and it has passed with bipartisan support in multiple committees. I ask for your "Aye" vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no mics up for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll. Oh, hang on a second. Sorry. Senator Allen, you are recognized.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Just a question for the author.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Will the author take your question?

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please proceed.

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    You know, I, I was initially concerned about this because it took away discretion from a judge, but especially on something that is a crime with no intent, right? It's a statutory rape—doesn't involve any intent or circumstances. It's just an act that is, in itself, illegal.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    But it's my understanding that the key to this Bill is that their own—that a person is only caught up in the implications of this Bill with regards to the Registry if it's a second offense, a second similar offense. Is that, is that correct?

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    That is correct.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Okay. All right. That, that certainly makes the Bill feel a lot more reasonable, and with that, I'll be supporting.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Senator, would you like to close?

  • Susan Rubio

    Legislator

    Thank you. Respectfully ask for an "Aye" vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Rubio moves the call. Item 50—we will move back to Item 51.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 586 by Senator Jones. An act relating to vehicles.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Jones, you are--

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Ashby, I guess I'm next, huh?

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Jones, you are next and you are recognized.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate all of us paying attention. I rise to present file item 51, which is Senate Bill 586 dealing with eMotos and OHV. This will establish a clear legal framework for registering eMotos as off-highway vehicles in California.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Currently, eMotos are not explicitly recognized as electronic OHVs under California law, preventing them from obtaining the necessary OHV green sticker for registration. This bill does three things. Defines eMotos as electric off highway vehicles, motorcycles. Removes the outdated engine number requirement for registration. Provides a clear legal pathway for eMoto riders to legally access OHV designated areas.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I appreciate the help of the committees that worked on this bill and ask for a unanimous resounding excited aye vote on SB 586.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    We feel your energy. Seeing no mics raised for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Jones moves the call. We will move to back up and file to file item 60. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 704 by Senator Arreguin. An act relating to firearms.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Arreguin, you are recognized.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise today to present SB 704, which require individuals who purchase or transfer a firearm barrel to undergo a background check through a licensed firearm dealer. The legislature for many years has shown leadership by passing laws to reduce the proliferation of of ghost guns.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Recent efforts by bad actors have led to the 3D printing of guns through 3D printed. Though 3D printed guns still require a real barrel as it is the main piece of equipment that cannot be reproduced through 3D printing. Firearm background checks save lives.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    SB 704 extends this proven public safety measure by requiring background checks for one of the most critical components of a firearm its barrel. This simple step will help reduce the spread of ghost guns and 3D printed firearms, which are proliferating in cities throughout California and helping or and actually leading to a rise in gun violence.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    This bill exempts law enforcement agencies, including the military and individuals that are already undergoing a background check to purchase a firearm as required by state and federal law.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Colleagues, our intent with this bill is not to target individuals that are lawful gun owners who are following state or federal law, which is why they are exempted from this bill, but to specifically focus on individuals that are manufacturing unregulated and unlicensed guns and putting our community's public safety at risk. If this bill leaves this house today,

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    we are committed to making amendments in consultation with with the Department of Justice to address implementation and to specifically look at the penalty amount in the bill. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. And members, let's remember to take our conversations off the floor in the back. Getting a little loud. Senator Choi, you are recognized.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Thank you. I rise in strong opposition to SB 704, which would ban the private sale or transfer of firearm barrels. This bill, although the author claims to be necessary to reduce gun violence, will not at all stop dangerous criminals from purchasing illegal firearms.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    What this bill will do is threaten law abiding gun owners with tens of thousands of dollars in fines and potentially even jail time. This bill will not keep California safe and will just turn law abiding gun owners into criminals. I strongly urge a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Limon, you are recognized.

  • Monique Limón

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. President and colleagues, I rise to support SB 704, which aims to strengthen state laws to ensure safe access to firearms. This bill does not ban gun barrels or firearms, but ensures that those buying or transferring them go through a background check performed by a licensed firearm dealer to promote responsible gun ownership.

  • Monique Limón

    Legislator

    This bill would also help prevent gun parts from being trafficked or misused. With an average of 37,000 people dying every year in the United States by firearms, California must continue to address gun violence. I respectfully ask for your support for SB 704.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear, you are recognized.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of SB 704. I want to recognize the author and say thank you for bringing this bill. California has some of the strongest and most effective gun violence prevention laws in the country. We know that when somebody prints- does a 3D print of a gun, there is no background check that happens.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    So what this bill does is it closes that loophole. People with criminal histories, domestic abusers, and those who otherwise would be prohibited from access to deadly weapons could have them if they are 3D printing a gun. So this bill regulates the one part of the firearm that is difficult to 3D print, that's the barrel.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    By requiring that those sales go through a firearm dealer, we know that background checks save lives and SB 704 is a simple step to reduce gun violence. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I respectfully rise in strong opposition to SB 704 which would require background checks for the purchase of firearm barrels. While I appreciate the author is trying to address crimes associated with ghost guns, this bill would neither detour criminal criminal activity nor assist law enforcement in identifying or apprehending individuals committing them.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    California already mandates extensive background checks on firearms, lower receivers, ammunition and now with this bill, firearm barrels. Adding barrels to the process is unnecessary, duplicative and unfairly targets law abiding gun owners who are already complying with existing regulations. This is especially concerning since barrels are often needed to be replaced and upgrading to maintain a firearms function.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    What's also troubling is that violating the proposed law would result in a $10,000 fine a year. So think about this just to be a little sarcastic. A tougher penalty than purchasing a 16 or 17 year old for sex.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    This bill would add yet another landmine that already complex legal landscapes for the gun control regulations that everyday citizens citizens are forced to navigate to avoid being punished and continue to be law abiding citizens.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    This is an extensive punishment for something that's as simple as acquiring a piece of metal tubing that only functions when paired with a firearm that's already subject to extensive regulations, it can't hurt or shoot or kill anyone by itself.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Since COVID 19, pandemic gun ownership has surged across all communities, including women, who are the fastest growing group of gun owners in the country.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And other than the other comments I have here, if you guys really think that someone who is an abuser, a criminal, or anyone like that is going to register with the Department of Justice, wait 10 days to buy a firearm, fill out an application because you're replacing the barrel because of use or practice or whatever purpose, it's ridiculous.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    It is only a mandate on law abiding citizens that have guns that want to comply with the law. It's an additional fee that lawful gun owners will have to face.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    The individuals that are using these ghost guns, these individuals that are doing these 3D printings, the individuals that are committing these crimes are not going to follow the laws already in existence on the books. They are not going to follow this law. They're going to continue to do it.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And therefore it doesn't do anything to protect public safety because these are criminals by, by themselves alone. Respectfully ask for a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Seeing no other mics raised for discussion or debate, Senator Arreguin, you may close.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Just to put the issue of ghost guns and gun violence in context, In California, from 2019 to 2021, the number of ghost guns recovered from a crime in California increased by 592%. And this increase in ghost guns accounted for nearly 70% of the total increase in crime guns recovered in California during this period.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    This bill is important to me in my district. I represent the City of Oakland, which has been afflicted by gun violence over the last decade. And ghost guns are a main reason why we've seen an increase in gun violence that has taken the lives of many innocent people in my community and communities throughout California.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    This bill does not attempt to prevent gun ownership or seek to undermine the right to bear arms. Regulating industrially manufactured barrels will create a practical and I would argue, non burdensome barrier to the illegal manufacturing of 3D printed firearms that undermine our process, that undermine legal gun ownership and hurt and- and undermine the safety of our communities.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    I just want to reiterate that this bill would exempt law enforcement, would exempt the military and those that are currently undergoing a background check. I reiterate the commitment that I stated in my opening remarks of our commitment to work with DOJ on implementation amendments.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    If this goes to the assembly as well as should we look at the penalty amount, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you Senator, for your close seeing- Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 27. Noes, 11. The measure passes. Moving to item 61.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

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    Senate Bill 716 by Senator Durazo. An act relating to communications.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Durazo, you are recognized.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Picture this, colleagues, a 10 year old sitting outside a library at night trying to finish homework on a borrowed phone. Because even today, too many families in California still cannot afford Internet at home. Nearly one in three families in California can't count on reliable home Internet for their kids to do schoolwork.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    And with the expiration of the Federal Affordable Connectivity Program, almost 3 million low income households lost critical support. We as legislators have worked hard to close the digital divide. Along with the Governor, we made a historic $6 billion investment in broadband infrastructure. But affordability remains the persistent barrier.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    We need to make sure families can actually connect to the wires that we are building. This bill creates a Home Internet Lifeline Program for low income families. It allows families to use the current state lifeline subsidy that they would otherwise receive and choose it- choose to use it for home Internet.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Participation is voluntary for ISPs if they want to participate. But they need to offer at least one plan with speeds of at least 100 down and 20 up at $330. Fiscal reporting to the legislature is built into the bill and the bill has a sunset date of January 2032. This bill is an investment in California's future workforce.

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    If kids can't finish homework today, they cannot compete in tomorrow's economy. Closing the digital divide isn't charity. It's building California's future strength. In the fourth largest economy in the world, California's kids deserve more than parking lots and borrowed phones. I respectfully urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Becker, you are recognized.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of SB 716. This bill builds on California's Lifeline Program which provides discounted home and cell phone service to low income households by expanding it to home Internet access,

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    as we just heard. Under this bill, participants gain access to home Internet with speeds of 120Mbps for as little as $10 out of pocket. The result will be a better Lifeline Program with more options for eligible customers and increased participation from providers.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I want to thank the author for working with my committee to address concerns about ratepayer costs. I know she's taken a number of amendments to contain those costs and to provide adequate oversight. And I know she'll continue to work with all the relevant stakeholders going forward. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Caballero, you're recognized.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I just want to thank my colleague from Los Angeles for her hard work on this. This is really critically important. Internet access a number of years ago was seen as a very nice thing to have, but mostly to play games and to surf the net.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    But what we learned during COVID is how important it was to have Internet access. The picture that everyone saw of the two little girls sitting in front of the Taco Bell were in the City of Salinas.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    Those little girls had no Internet at home, and so they went to the local Taco Bell to be able to do that, without their parents, because that's what kids do. In my district, this continues to be a problem. I have Zoomed with family members.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    I have Zoomed with people to have neighborhood meetings, and they've had to go to their local library and sit in the parking lot in order to be able to do that. So this is righteously important and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no further discussion or debate. Senator Durazo, would you like to close?

  • María Elena Durazo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank my colleagues for their comments and respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you so very much. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Durazo moves the call. Members, it is imperative to come to the floor to vote. We are going to lift calls on multiple items. I also want to announce we only have 13 bills left on file, so we are- after we. Okay.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    So we are going to take a pause for a moment to make sure that everybody is on the floor before we lift calls. And then after we lift calls, we will take a dinner break for 30 minutes. A 30 minute dinner break.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please stay in the building so that we can get back promptly and we can get done in a decent time. Members, it looks like we have all- all present and accounted for. So, Secretary, please lift the call on file item 19. Or we will lift the call on file item 19. Secretary, call for absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 30, noes one. The measure passes. We will now lift the call on item 25. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 38. Noes, 0. The measure passes. We will lift the call on item 27. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 37. Noes, 0. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 28. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 24. Noes, 10. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 29. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members once more.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 37. Noes, zero. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 31. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 37. Noes, 0. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 35. Secretary, call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 21. Noes, 10. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 37. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 38. Noes, 0. The measure passes. Lifting Call on item 39. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 38. Noes, 0. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 40. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 28. Noes, 11. The measure passes. Lifting Call on item 41. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 29. Noes, 6. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 42. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 27. Noes, 0. The measure passes. Lifting call on item 58. Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 39. Noes, 0. The measure passes. That was item 57. Sorry.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 29, noes eight. The measure passes. Just one moment. Members, we are Members. Stay put. We are working on some paperwork here and we will give you direction momentarily.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Members, we only have 13 bills left. All. All items on call were lifted. So we have dinner for 30 minutes. Please stay in the building, be prompt on your return and we will get finished with our business tonight. Go have dinner. 30 minutes. The timer started.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Members, we are moving back to consideration of daily file. Back to the business with 13 bills left for this evening. All right, File Item 36. File Item 36. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 29 by Senator Laird, an act relating to civil actions.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Members, let's remember to take our conversations off the floor. Senator Laird, you are recognized.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    Oh, thank you very much, Mr. President. For over 70 years, California has had a pain and suffering action. If you experience pain and suffering due to somebody else's action, you have the ability to redress it in the courts. However, until 2021, we were one of five states—five states where that action died with you.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    If you died before it was adjudicated, you did not realize the benefit from that. That year, Senate Bill 447 was passed. That actually helped us catch up with Alabama, Mississippi, Utah, West Virginia, and the other 45 states that allowed that right to reside, regardless if somebody had died.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And what happened was, is that the process to realize that was delayed in the courts. People just needed to string it out, and somebody died without realizing it. It was particularly acute during the COVID Pandemic because the court process slowed down, but the courts are still backlogged. That is still an issue. And who were these people?

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    These were disproportionately women, people of color, workers. There's a reason that the State Building and Construction Trades Council did a floor alert on this Bill earlier today, because they know who it's affected. This Bill, Senate Bill 29.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Members. It's a little loud on the floor.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    This Bill extends the sunset five years and collects data so that it can demonstrate how this is used. And that's important because the Judicial Council takes reports of how this is used. There have been exactly four cases reported to the Judicial Council in the year since 2021. Four cases.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And at the same time, the language says that we should try to compile information about settlements, because once people knew that this couldn't be strung out until somebody died, then settlements were reached. Yes, four cases and some settlements that weren't quantified.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    So, there have been many concerns expressed about this Bill, and let me quickly go through them. There's been the concern that somehow insurance rates are going to, to skyrocket.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    The floodgates are open. With the few cases that have happened since this law was changed, that has simply not been in evidence, and there is no evidence that that that has happened. It is said that this original Bill was passed with the understanding that when Covid passed, this Bill would be allowed to sunset.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    I presented that Bill in Every hearing. That was never said, never understood, and never part of the 2021 deliberation. It has been affirmed that the MICRA negotiation in 2022 really took this into account. This subject, this legislation, this Bill was not discussed in those micro negotiations.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    There was no understanding that this would be allowed to sunset because of the MICRA negotiations. And in fact, I was a principal co-author of that MICRA settlement Bill. I never would have done it if I thought it undid this Bill.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And I think in the Committee hearing, it was clearly demonstrated this was not part of the MICRA negotiations. It's been argued that this Bill allows double claiming because of—with punitive damages. However, punitive damages and pain and suffering damages are separate damages with different purposes that don't overlap necessarily. So, there could be people in both ways.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    That's also true with regard to wrongful death. And wrongful death has immediate—it happens immediately sometimes—doesn't happen with pain and suffering. There's even a higher level you have to prove in some of these. This benefit is under the MICRA caps. This is not unlimited. This is under the MICRA caps.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    It was before 2021, and it was after. And so, the real issue here is that this is a righteous matter.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    Not if this Bill doesn't pass, we go back to being one of the four states in the United States that all you need to do is string it out in the courts and this benefit is denied to you. I have committed to continue to work on this.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    If there is a way that we can resolve some of these issues without gutting the Bill, I am really open to doing it. When I did the Bill in 2021, we made amendments in the Assembly that relaxed a lot of people and allowed it to go all the way.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    So, I think this is an appropriate Bill to just extend the sunset, compile the information, provide the justice to people that have this. And so, I respectfully ask for an "Aye" vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Ashby, you are recognized.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. President. I rise today with some concerns about SB 29, but a willingness to support my colleague from Santa Cruz today. I have a concern about the inclusion, which he's spoken a bit about here, the inclusion of medical malpractice. I know it is something he has agreed to work on.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    I would like to just ask, through the presiding officer, if possible, for a clarification from the Senator on his intent to continue working on that language so that I can feel comfortable in my vote, if he's willing.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Author, are you willing to clarify?

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    I'm not 100% sure what the question is. But I'm obviously continuing a—committed to continue to work on this. I haven't committed to a specific thing to take, but I am committed to work on this to see if there's a way we can address some of the concerns that have been expressed.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Does that suffice?

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    It sure does. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar, you are recognized.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I want to also echo the concerns that my colleague from Sacramento has shared as well. You know, given the uncertainty coming down from the Federal Government in cuts, especially to our health care system, I'm worried that this will add and burden our healthcare system.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    But to reverence to the Senator from Santa Cruz, I will be supporting this, but still with some concerns, specifically on the medical inclusion of this Bill.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I just want to highlight that I do appreciate the effort from the Senator regarding this Bill. I think that there have been many concerns kind of raised, and I just want to highlight that.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    I hope that he will continue the work that he is doing with all the stakeholders involved as it moves into the next house. And I just would like that commitment, which I believe he is more than willing to make.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    If that's a question through the Chair?

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    I believe I addressed that.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And I will continue to do that.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. So, I think that there are some concerns regarding some of the—with the stakeholders. You know, number one, some of the concerns that Planned Parenthood has raised about this, as well as, you know, just the, you know, CMTA to a number of other agencies. So, I do believe the author.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    I believe that he's trying to move this forward in the right way and respectfully ask for an "Aye" vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Richardson, you are recognized.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to take a little step back to, I think, go more into detail about this. What's outstanding is to talk about pain and suffering, and in a legal context, that refers to the physical and emotional distress caused by an injury, including the loss of enjoyment of life.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    I experienced a pretty severe accident, and my case was extended three years. So, I know exactly what you're talking about. Ruptured a disc, third, fourth, and fifth in my lower vertebrae. They took out six inches of my bicep. And I have a plate in my arm.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    And every time I lift a bag, which is two times a week, I have sharp pains in my arm because of the plate in my arm. So, I know exactly what you're talking about. But I also want to express concerns because when I came back, one of the most exciting things to learn was that MICRA had been negotiated and it was no longer on the table, that the parties had come together and had agreed.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    And it appears now there's this little open window and my concern, and I'm going to listen to the rest of the debate before I take a position, but my concern with the author is that we're seriously going to look at the medical practice portion. Because what I don't want to do is live through another 8, 10, years of us kicking the ball back and forth.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Those of us who know the MICRA fight, it was quite a fight for a long time, and we finally turned the corner on it. Good, good men and women prevailed and negotiated. And it just seems that this door is opening again.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    And I think with all of what we're going to be faced with cuts and programs that we're looking to protect, our efforts would be better spent in those areas. So, I look forward to the rest of the debate and at that point I'll make my final decision. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Senator Valladares, you are welcomed.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Thank you. Colleagues, I, too, regretfully rise in respectful opposition. I approach every Bill with one core question in mind. And does this reduce the cost of living, or does it raise it? Because Californians are hurting right now. Families are being crushed under the weight of housing, of energy, of groceries, and health care.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    And as written, this Bill will raise cost. It removes the sunset on SB 447, allowing unlimited economic damages and up to $3 million in non-economic damages and wrongful death cases. These are on top of the historic changes made just last year under AB 35. Now, let me be clear here though.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    I support justice for families who have experienced loss, but this isn't about justice, it's about unchecked payouts that will drive up malpractice insurance premiums, especially for community hospitals, small practices, and clinics serving low-income neighborhoods. And when those costs go up, they don't hit lawyers or they don't hit insurers, they hit patients.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    This Bill is going to make health care even more expensive for everyday people. It'll mean higher costs for employers, for Medi-Cal, and for families already choosing between groceries and prescriptions. We say we care about affordability, then we can't ignore the price tag of policies like this. There is a way to balance accountability with sustainability.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    But as written, this Bill is not balanced. If we care about the cost of living, if we care about keeping access, then we should oppose this Bill—and oppose this Bill, and I urge a "No" vote. Thank You.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you for your comments, Senator Valladares. Senator Perez, you are recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of SB 29 by the good Senator and want to thank him for bringing this forward. You know, I spent some time looking into this Bill and talking with folks both in support and opposition, as well as meeting with several attorneys, one in particular that's currently representing a civil rights case.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And this case would be very relevant to this Bill. It's a case in which a young boy was shot by police officers in crossfire eight times in the back.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And whether or not his family gets any justice in that case is being based on the 15 minutes of recording that they have of him breathing into the microphone where you can hear him to justify his pain and suffering that he experienced after that happened.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Now, I can't imagine having my son or daughter pass away in such a manner.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And that being what determines whether or not there will be any justice held up, whether or not there will be any sort of restitution that I'll receive for the pain and suffering that my family's been forced to experience, as the result of such an event. And I think that this Bill is one that addresses that very issue.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    In addition to that, I know MICRA was brought up. This was actually a main question that I had for folks. This was actually not a part of the MICRA Agreement. And both the supporters and the opposition recognized that when I sat down to speak with them about this Bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And as I understand it, the good Senator also worked on that MICRA Agreement. So, I just want to recognize that as well. So, urge an "Aye" vote and thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Umberg, you are recognized.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Oh, thank you, Mr. President and colleagues. A couple points here. One is with respect to MICRA, indeed, this was not part of the MICRA conversation. The law, as it exists today, was in existence during that negotiation, number one.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Number two is having been on the defense side of litigation for most of my career in the private sector, almost always it benefits the defense to delay basically a decision on the merits. But in this circumstance, there's a huge benefit to the defense.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    The benefit is if you delay until the plaintiff victim dies, then those damages go away. That family is not compensated. That family is not compensated for the time that someone was in pain and agony and living.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    And in terms of fairness and justice, we, California, should join all the other states, save five, and vote "Aye" on this Bill. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, you are recognized.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, I'll be brief. If this Bill—I rise in opposition to SB 29. If this Bill passes, health care costs will dramatically go up for all Californians. We're already having a crisis trying to get people into the medical profession.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    This is going to dramatically hurt that opportunity because we have shortages right now in all these professions. Podiatrists, dentists, doctors, you know, you name it, psychiatrists. Almost all these folks who own these medical practices are small business owners throughout our state. If this were to pass, and then also, hospitals are having a tough time staying open.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    If this passes, you're going to hurt the very ability to provide health care for the people of California. Right now, we have a crisis because we don't have enough people going into the field and many people have been in the field in the medical profession are retiring early because they just can't make it.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    We have rising costs of health care. And this is another thing that will just dramatically increase the cost of health care and will hurt California citizens all throughout the state. I urge a "No" vote on this Bill because it's not good for patients or doctors or medical industry in California.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Seeing no other microphones raised for discussion or debate. Senator Laird, you may close.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President. I, I appreciate the debate but let me correct some facts. It was said that these costs will skyrocket and in fact the $3 million number was tossed out. This is under the MICRA cap.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    The MICRA cap at the time of the negotiations in 2022 was $250,000. Over 10 years, I believe it goes up to $1 million. If there is medical malpractice, it's under the $1 million cap. If there is pain and suffering, it's under the cap. If they do them both together, together, they completely are under the cap.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    The there is no possibility of having multimillion dollar settlements on this because it is under that cap. And I think it is not understood clearly that MICRA was adopted in 1975. And so, for 50 years, we've had both pain and suffering, and we've had MICRA, and they have both been under the cap that whole time.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    All that happened in 2022 is the amount of the cap was negotiated to change. It wasn't like, oh, we should remove all these rights because the cap was changed after those years. It wasn't.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    And so, when, when the phrase was used like, oh, the door is opening, that cap has been negotiated, it's final, we have adopted it. It is in law for the next 10 years. And the notion that there's four reportable—four reported cases—in the last four years and the argument is, oh, costs are skyrocketing.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    It's the end of the world, not the case. And what we are doing as part of this is taking the next sunset and taking the language to compute exactly how this is used, to be able to demonstrate that if there is a big impact at the time of the next sunset, we, in fact, address it.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    I really salute my colleague from Orange County, the Chair of the Judiciary Committee. And in the Judiciary Committee, he asked a question of the advocates that I thought made the point clearly.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    He said, if somebody's in a car wreck and they have pain and suffering, but somebody is the victim of medical malpractice, the people in the car wreck get pain and suffering, but the people in medical malpractice don't. And he actually asked, why should there be that difference? Why should there be that tear? And there shouldn't be.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    They were probably negligence of somebody that caused a car accident. And then, you have the pain and suffering. Same with the medical malpractice in this. And when you really look at who these cases are, a lot of wealthy people can really handle it.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    But this really is people that are in maternity cases or working people that have had working injuries, injuries at their jobs. That is really who this is about. And so, I think, don't make us go back and be with the other.

  • John Laird

    Legislator

    Now, three states that do this and be one of, you know, ignore 47 other states that do it another way. There's a reason they do it the other way. And many of them don't even have the caps that protect Californians on this. So, I think this is a matter of justice. I respectfully ask for an "Aye" vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 21, noes 9. The measure passes. Moving to item 75. Secretary, please read.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 540 by Senator Becker. An act relating to electricity.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Becker, you are recognized.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Colleagues, I rise to present SB 540 which would allow California to participate in westwide energy markets. California is a renewables rich state. We have access to solar, wind, geothermal. We have access to other technologies as well.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And to leverage the potential of these renewable resources, we have implemented a world class Renewable Portfolio Standard, eliminate virtually all coal from our grid and implemented a robust integrated planning portfolio. This year alone we've seen 117 days, including last 76 straight, where we've hit 100% renewables on our system at least part of the day.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    When the RPS was first authorized, naysayers said the grid would collapse if we had a mere 20% of renewables on the system. We have come a long way. This is important because the grid must always be balanced. Too much power causes a power surge, not enough leads to blackouts.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Ensuring system reliability each minute of the day is not an easy task. And we need all the tools available to us, especially during peaks. Otherwise we're building more and more infrastructure to address those 40 hours a day. Sorry, 40 hours a year that I talked about yesterday.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And again, two main things we can do to address those 40 hours. One of those tools is better to utilize the assets we already have that shave the peak. We talked about that yesterday and SB 541. The other tool is energy markets.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    We trade electricity with our neighbors to keep the lights on, reduce polluting emissions and most importantly, save California's money on their bills. We currently trade electricity on a real time basis to help the grid keep in balance by using what's called the Western Electricity Imbalance Market every 15 minutes. That's known as the WEIM.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    That's my second favorite acronym to WUI, WUI and WEIM. Remember those? That market has saved California over $2 billion, including in the west over $7 billion since it launched 10 years ago. California is now extending that market to a day ahead market called the EDAM Extended Day Ahead Market.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Building a regional organization through this bill whose governance provides representation for all, will bring in western partners and allow us to reap the full benefits of the extended day ahead market. But only if- only if the extensive protections in this bill are met. This proposal is fundamentally different from those you may have heard.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Those who have been around for a while who have seen previous versions of this. We couldn't work it out, so stakeholders got In a room. We said, get in a room, meet for two years and come up with a proposal. And that's what they did that everyone could agree to.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And that is a market that would provide the protections that California would need to participate. Those protections include three things. Number one, the regional organization respects California's authority to set its own procurement, its own resource adequacy, its own environmental reliability and other public interest policies. Nothing in the market requires-

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Second, nothing in the market requires Californians to subsidize fossil resources. Third, the rules approved by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, or FERC, provide a procedure for unilateral withdrawal that was critical. Unilateral withdrawal from the markets without any penalties, just to name a few of the protections.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    And no, this bill does not expose California to any additional federal meddling. If FERC wants to interfere with California's markets or our climate policies via energy markets, they could do that today. This bill does not increase that exposure at all. Just a couple pieces on the benefits.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The Stanford Woods Institute study recently found an expanded market scenario under this bill would reduce the grid, would be strained 40% hours fewer and relieve strain on the grid during extreme heat events.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Originally updated CC Commission study, of which I have copies for all of you, found that an expanded market under this bill would yield anywhere from 900 million to $1.1 billion a year, additional affordability in economic benefits to California. It also modeled emissions decreases in California and across the West.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I want to be clear that the discussions we're having is happening at the same time as a competing market out of Little Rock, Arkansas, and they're looking to attract the same Western partners.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    If we do not act with urgency, we risk losing those partners to this market, to a market that does not care about respecting our climate policies or energy goals or the interests of California consumers. Make- Make no mistake, if we do not act, we will be worse off.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I want to thank my joint author, the great Senator from Los Angeles, with unwavering commitment to this idea, moving this bill forward, the many hours he spent in getting this right, and continue to work on it.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I want to thank the Judiciary Chair for the time he spent to understand and work through all these issues and his openness to continue working through it. I'm sure it is clear to the folks in this room or those who are watching that this is a consequential bill. And understand that many of you have concerns.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Many of the market participants, the diverse market participants inside and outside of California have concerns. And- And- And some of those have been working even a decade to get to this point.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    So, friends, we have a significant and rare opportunity to tackle reliability, emissions and costs with a single bill, which means there's still a lot of work to do. I look forward to continuing to work with all of you, including the chair of Appropriations Committee, our leadership and our colleagues in the assembly to resolve these concerns.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    going forward. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Strickland, you are recognized.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, I rise in support of SB 540. Recent amendments are very problematic. However, I believe the status quo is not an option for the energy markets. And I want to thank the chair of the Energy Committee and also the center from Los Angeles. We've been working together on this issue.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    Without the willingness to work with out of state partners, people will leave the current markets and making energy more expensive for- for our residents as well as less reliable. California cannot afford to be isolated from the rest of the West. In fact, when you look at who's supporting this bill, again, it's a work in progress.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    And I know I have a commitment from the chair as well as the Senator from Los Angeles, they're going to work out on some of these problems. But when you look at this strong coalition, I haven't seen a coalition like this in a long time. And I've been on Energy Committee going back 13, 14, 15 years ago.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    And you- you see business is on board with this bill. You see the Chamber of Commerce is on board with this bill. You see that labor is on board with this bill. Because everybody understands status quo is not an option. We need to get this fixed.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    We need to move forward and we need to make sure energy is reliable for all California residents. This is not a great bill at this point. Very problematic.

  • Tony Strickland

    Legislator

    A lot of things are problematic, but I have faith in the chair of the energy the that he's going to work it out and make sure we get a big beautiful bill by the time it comes back to the senate. So thank you. Urge your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Ashby, you are welcome to speak. You're recognized.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    Thank you very much to the presiding officer. And maybe up until that last line I could have agreed with the Senator from Huntington Beach as well. I do want to thank the author of this bill and the Chairman for the Energy Committee for his hard work.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    It's a really important area and I don't think we need to have seven people stand up on the floor and repeat that. But what I do want to say, I often brag both in this chamber and in any other venue where I am given the opportunity about SMUD because they are an incredible partner.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    And I feel very fortunate that my district and I know the Senator from Fair Oaks and the center from West Sac feel the same to the extent that we. That they get to share that with me, that SMUD is an entity to be very proud of. Here's my problem.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    They changed their position on this bill partway through after amendments were made in a couple of the committees. And I understand, as the Senator from Huntington Beach has laid out, that that is because we need a lot more work on this bill.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    And many times we have all stood on this floor and said there's much work left to be do- left to do as this moves forward in this bill. And that's true in this case.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    But I need to hear from either the author or I would be fine with the Senator from Los Angeles if it's okay with the presiding officer.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    To answer the question of how do you get from where you are now back to a space where you can earn the support of the one of the most trusted entities in the State of California, which is SMUD.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Would the author or joint author like to answer that question?

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Sure. The question about. Yeah, we certainly hope. I know SMUD, although they have issues with the bill, would like to see it move forward and committed to working with them going forward for sure.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    The presiding officer. I know that the author was asked another question at the time. Perhaps the Senator from Los Angeles should take a swing at it if that would be.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Do you want to repeat the question, sorry?

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    Pretty lengthy. Okay. SMUD changed their mind partway through on this bill. And I know there are many things that need to be done, but I need to hear from either yourself or your co author how you're going to earn the trust of SMUD back because these are broad, significant changes.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    And while I agree that the overall effort of the bill is critically important, I don't want to vote against my utility district, who right now does not support this bill.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I think they do support moving it forward. That's what they've told us at least. But we'll work with SMUD and all CCAs. The CCAs are important partners in this. My CCAs have been very supportive of this effort. Not everybody loves everything in the bill at this moment, but we are committed to working with them.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    The CCAs have been critical partners for this, and I think they're going to be supportive at the end of the day.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    If I may. Okay. So I'm just going to. I'm somewhat unsatisfied with that answer- I- all do respect. I have a very strong relationship with my local utility and every member of their board. So I guess I'll listen to the rest of my colleagues comments before making up my mind.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Cabaldon, you are recognized.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I also represent the Sacramento Municipal- Municipal Utility District which serves I think 500 people in my district, but it counts. I want to join with the Senator

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    from Sacramento in raising the concern, although I'm actually would urge a little less work because the problem here is all of the benefits of the bill, of this bill, and they are numerous and profound, depend on us actually joining with the region and the region joining with us. And I think so-

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I think the problem that I hope we will work with, work on to resolve in the assembly is that we cannot replicate all of the state rules and interests and what have you, as though the rest of the world is just waiting for California to allow them to be partners. So I hope as the-

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    As I will be voting for it today. But I do hope that as it moves forward that the bill that the amendments that were taken in the Judiciary Committee, just to name them, that we take another look at that and make

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    sure that we are designing a set of criteria and- and thresholds that actually can be met in a timely way so that we can compete against the Little Rock Consortium and make sure that this is actually going to be a workable- workable solution.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Ochoa Bogh, you are recognized.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Ochoa Bogh, you are recognized. I can say it a third time if you like. Okay.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, I rise with concerns about Senate Bill 540. First, I really want to commend the Senator from Menlo park in working on this bill.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    I can testify here with all truth and honesty how many times I've seen him working in the back, working around his little computer, talking to the Senator from LA- LA here. But they're working extremely hard to make sure that this bill looks right and meets all of the requirements that are being placed before them.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    So I want to applaud his efforts for working so incredibly hard and being so vested. I can tell that he has this- this mantle of pressure and responsibility that he feels and I commend him for that. I supported this bill in energy because it reflected a bipartisan, holistic compromise.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Literally every group, as mentioned earlier, related to energy visited my office and nearly all were in alignment. Not all were pleased, but they were aligned. The bill was a result of 18 months of deliberation among labor, utilities, environmental advocates and consumer groups.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    The SB 540 I heard in Energy Committee offered California a real opportunity to participate in a voluntary regional electricity market, something we desperately need to help reduce costs and strengthen grade reliability. But the bill before us today has changed.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    The creation of a Regional Energy Market Oversight Council composed of elected officials and chaired by the Attorney General fundamentally alters the governance structure. This new council would hold extraordinary authority to approve or withdraw California's participation from a regional market, injecting uncertainty into what should be a technical market driven process.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    That uncertainty directly threatens affordability and reliability for the very communities that we serve. Across the state, many entities are actively engaged in long term resource planning, committing millions of dollars in ratepayer funds to ensure clean, reliable service. If California is suddenly withdrawn. Sorry, just lost my notes.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    If California is suddenly withdrawn from the market, those investments could become stranded assets and the financial burden will fall squarely on working families and local ratepayers. This isn't just a policy flaw. It's a financial risk we can't afford. Passage of a clean bill would fulfill the legislature state priorities.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Protecting consumers, ensuring affordability, advancing electrification, and supporting California's climate goals. This amended version moves us to the- in the opposite direction, adding uncertainty where we need clarity and sound energy planning. For these reasons, I have grave concerns about this bill in supporting it today.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    However, I do believe in the efforts and the goodwill and the good faith of the Senator from Menlo Park. And I will be supporting this, this bill today with the effort that that work will continue. And I look forward to seeing it come back to the Senate for reassessment.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    And then I do reserve my- my right to change my- my vote on that. But I do wish the Senator from Menlo Park incredible success and diligence and grit. And I hope he has the fortitude to continue working on it. And wish him the best of luck.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Umberg, you are recognized.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Colleagues, this is a hard bill. This is a very hard bill because this is one of those bills where there's a clash of interests that is very difficult to reconcile. I have confidence in the authors, the Senator from Los Angeles and the Senator from Menlo Park.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    I have confidence in their diligence, I have confidence in their expertise and especially have confidence in their interest in protecting California's interests. Not just in terms of our economic interests, but also our values, our values with respect to climate change. I know you both believe in climate change.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Not sure everyone here believes in climate change, but I know you believe in climate change and you believe in protecting California, both its economic interest as well as its environmental and other interests. Here's the challenge.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    The challenge is that once we're in, it may be very difficult to leave, either legally or practically, because we become so reliant on the grid. And it also vests California in a place where potentially the administration, the current administration, can wreak havoc on California.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    And while I have confidence in the Senator from Los Angeles and confidence in the Senator from Menlo Park, I do not have confidence in the folks in Washington, D.C. I do not have confidence in the folks in Washington, D.C. that they share our values. And so thus there are guardrails that have been placed in the bill.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    Having said that, I expect that as this bill should move forward, and I expect it to do so, is going to see great changes in the Assembly.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    I expect that when the bill comes back to us that those concerns, the risks and the benefits will be weighed, the risks will be mitigated so that California is not ever held hostage, either economically or by our- by a clash of values or by practicality.

  • Thomas Umberg

    Legislator

    And that the authors of this bill will create a mechanism, will create a system, will create a grid that benefits both our economic values as well as our other societal values. And for those reasons, I'm going to support the bill. And I thank both of you for all your effort in this regard. With that I urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Valladares, you are recognized.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I want to- I rise because I want to get to a support on this bill. I was a founding member of the Problem Solvers Caucus and we visited Cal ISO and it's a phenomenal experience if you haven't had the opportunity to do that.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    And they urged for this for us needing to partner or look at a regional approach.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    We also went to talk to the head of the US Energy as well, and they also called for California needing to take a regional approach and, you know, warning us that if we don't, we- we could end up like a Texas right on an energy island.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    And we're facing that very possibility as we continue to need to improve our grid and improve and move energy around. So I want to get to a support on this. I understand it's very political and it's political regionally as well.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    What concerns me, though, is that I'm not quite understanding why the oversight and authority would be given to the Attorney General versus the PUC. And if you could walk me through that, I want to support this.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    I know it needs to happen, but I'm not sure that the amendments that were added that were headed in the right direction. If you're open to taking a question through the chair.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Author, are you willing to take a question?

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Yeah, maybe I'll address that in the close. Is it okay?

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Very well, Senator Allen, you're recognized.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Well, it sounds like we have a lot of the same themes here, which is that we all understand the- the really lofty and important goals of making sure that California is in a robust and integrated system that takes advantage of all of

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    the- that the west can provide both in terms of energy generation and also sharing burden and load, especially during those times when we've got strains on our system. So there's a lot of- of- of potential here.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    And I do want to echo all of the praise for the authors, the Member from San Fernando Valley and from Menlo Park for the incredible work they put in. This has been very difficult. I think part of the challenge for me is one of the issues I voted for this in Energy Committee.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    One of the concerns that I raised at the time and in Judiciary was about the question of legislative engagement in the process. And one suggestion was the possibility of allowing for some sort of super majority vote in the legislature that could, you know, where we'd have some sort of fail safe where the legislature could weigh in.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Because if we had it all in the PUC, that's a Governor dominated decision making process. Somehow out of all this came this bizarre panel suggestion which puts the decision in these five in the hands of these five people, including the two energy chairs from the legislature, which is not an environmental portfolio, obviously very environmentally adjacent.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    It was a very curious decision. I really am still trying to understand through many conversations how this came to be. And quite frankly, I think it's a bad direction that the bill's taken. So I want to get a better sense. I think so many people were hearing concerns expressed about that from both sides of the aisle.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    We want meaningful opportunity for the last legislature to have input and oversight over this process and not just hand this over to Governor dominated agencies. But this didn't seem to be the right way to do it. So I'm certainly interested in. It sounds as though the author will answer that particular dilemma in his close.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    So I'll wait to hear that as I determine what I'm going to do on this. But I see the goals, I want to support the goals, but I'm concerned about- about some of the way that this bill has, the direction this bill has gone.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator McNerney, you are recognized.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    President and I thank the gentleman from the Peninsula for bringing this forward. You know, I'm going to take a little higher 50,000 foot view on this. Regionalization is a good idea. Increasing the supply is going to both lower cost and increase reliability. Now, this is our chance to join a regional effort.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    And if we say no now, that opportunity is going to close. So we won't have this opportunity forever. We will have a couple of years to decide if this is if we want to continue. We can get out of that within that time frame. So joining this regional effort, it opens options, and declining it closes options.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    It's always good to have options. The author has clearly indicated that he's going to work on some of the issues that have been raised. And I have confidence in him. And so I'm going to respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Senator Stern, you are recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I really appreciate the debate. And y' all wrestling with what's normally sort of dense, you know, electrical grid issues that people just makes their eyes glaze over. So the level of- of attention and commitment here, not just from my lead author and myself, but from all of you, I think matters a lot.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    You know, this is a difficult time to want to engage beyond our borders. I think I understand at this moment that there's that distrust, that skepticism, to say, why don't we just make ourselves an island? Wouldn't it be better if we were just Texas?

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    But the California version, and we didn't look to share, and we didn't look to the north or to the east for solutions, especially in states where the majority party may not be our party, or they may be, you know, maybe they have coal fired power that they are trying to somehow fire back up again because the President told them that coal is cool, even though it's super expensive, not to mention polluting.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    But, you know, the- the exercise in this bill to me is how to engage in that- that exercise with appropriate skepticism. Yes. But an understanding that there are some things that somehow maybe can defy politics and just the ability to keep our bills low and keep the lights on might be one area where we can find some agreement.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    And I think that's- that's been my sensitivity all along, is those partners who are willing to stick their necks out a little bit and interconnect our grid and bring us renewable power. Because remember, this bill doesn't allow for the subsidy of any fossil fuel. What California would bring in through this energy market would be clean energy.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    And if they want to fire up their coal, we can only do so much to control that. We'd like to see overall a national policy that- that was actually driving towards emissions reductions, but we're not there right now.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    But if those states beyond our borders say, want to jettison their renewable energy industry and say that solar is not on the list, it's- it's too California. We'll gladly take that solar when we need it. And when we have excess solar, renewable energy here and we have nowhere to sell it because we basically, it's called curtailment.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    We curtail hundreds of millions of dollars worth of solar and wind in this state because it's online when we can't use it. What if we could just sell that to our neighbors across the street and we'd actually make some money back?

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    That's why this bill will save $1.0 billion a year, because you actually can make a partnership that works. Despite totally, sometimes diametrically opposed politics, I get the tendency to want to impose really rigorous safeguards and oversight. And I know my lead author will speak to this.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    I think the concerns raised about what oversight looks like and how to make that meaningful, it gives us a really good roadmap for going forward.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    I- I hear- I hear Senator from Santa Monica, the Senators from the Sacramento area, my colleagues- some of my colleagues from across the aisle, concerned about the nature of the oversight that we're putting forward in this bill, the framework for this council say, as well as the- the- the fact that it's not just say an off ramp or a way to provide oversight, but in fact a precondition to even getting this thing off the ground in the first place.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    This is not a bill where I think we ought to be goading the Republican Party or even the folks all the way back east and trying to pick a fight. I think this is actually one where we can lay down our arms for a second, say if you don't want your renewables, we'll take them.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    And if you'd like some cheap power from California that just happens to be renewable, you can have some of that and maybe on this one we can avoid it. So I think that legislative oversight mechanism, I'm committed to working on that with the chair of Judiciary Appropriations Chair our leadership here. I think you'll hear from them too.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    They want to make this work and try to, you know, gently get to some kind of good faith agreement. This is not easy, but I think it is worthy of your aye vote, and that's why I'm asking for it.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I want to thank both of the main authors of this bill. I appreciate the vision of this bill as we talk about energy and going bigger. However, you know, I voted on this in Energy Committee out of respect for the chair. But I also have been consistently opposed to several items.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    You know, even with amendments, I find it concerning that we're not going to bring it back to the legislature to have a full picture of what this regional organization will actually look like. A five member council is not enough.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Having the Attorney General, the President of the PUC and the two chairs of energy from the Senate and the Assembly to focus on a few small things is concerning.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    If it is a lot of confidence that we have in regional organization, the fact that it won't impact the RPS and won't take away green jobs and won't force Californians to subsidize an organization they no longer have control over, then we should be able to review the facts, once we have more concrete evidence.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And I personally believe that this proposal promises too much with very little certainty.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And as we talk about reining in PG and E and having more discretion and oversight and accountability when it relates to the PUC in our own backyard, what makes us think we'll do any better with an unknown out of state entity that is no longer mandated to protect California's interests solely? That is my concern.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    The other concern that I deeply have is creating larger monopolies. And that is I think one of the biggest concerns I have as it relates to how large PG and E has become. And PG and E is in my district, so I tend to refer to it a lot more. And how it's going to apply in this aspect.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    So for example, consolidated control over the grid, that is a concern that we should all have. How do we ensure that we're nimble, that we can operate efficiently and much more.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    While this can improve coordination and efficiency, it can also create centralized authority over key decisions like transmission planning, resource procurement and much more, including across community choice aggregators and local governments, which should have a say in how things operate as well as it offers a threat to public oversight.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    If it's dominated by large private utilities or unaccountable boards, public interest goals such as affordability, clean energy targets or labor protections may take a back seat. And that's a deep concern I have.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    As well as market power and price manipulation, we have seen the cost of electricity skyrocket with no ability to rein it back in, no ability to say that's too much, with full focus on shareholders and basically profit.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And I'm concerned also of the progress we have made in this state that is not necessarily shared by the other states and diluting our advances when we're talking about this. So. I have a lot of concerns about this bill. I think that a lot of my answers in multiple, not only hearings, but committees have gone unanswered.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    There's a lot of stakeholders that also have amendments and suggestions that have not been even discussed with those stakeholders. And so I do not feel confident in this particular proposal. I think that in a time when we're talking about affordability regarding energy in our State of California, that is where we should focus first and foremost.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    If we would like to partner with them in the future and let other states take the lead on that particular effort and investment, we should see how far they go with it without California also trying to tackle two beasts. One, set something brand new up and two, tackle the issues that Californians care about.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    So with that, I will respectfully be opposing this bill, thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Caballero, you are recognized.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I'm going to make this brief because I think a lot has already been said. But- But I heard this bill, I think three times. One was at just an informational hearing and then twice in committee. And I'm fully, I'm going to support the bill. We start off with that.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    But I also am in favor of regionalism because I think our weather patterns and the energy that we can create regionally is diverse enough so it'll benefit California. But there are a couple of things that- that I'm concerned about.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    One is that I remember distinctly the energy crisis back in the day when we did not have enough energy and we had to go out to the market and buy it and we spent millions of dollars trying to provide energy for California.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    And so I want us to be prudent about how we set up a regional organization to make sure we're looking out for the ratepayers of California. So it's the rate payers as well as the- the employee- employee protections that are going to be important.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    And then I when I heard this in hearing, what I was very specific about was the opportunity for us to have off ramps as this gets produced because we don't have enough information about what it's going to look like. There has to be an off ramp.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    There will be a new Governor that will inherit whatever we pass out of this legislature and there will be new legislators as well. And we don't want to burden them with something that doesn't work because we're too trusting, if you will. And so I'm concerned about that.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    And finally, I- I've harped on this floor and when I was in the assembly as well, about how our RPS system does not treat all green energy the same. And if we're going to enter into an agreement with other states about their green energy, then I think ours has to make sense.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    And I've got- I've got some irrigation districts that create energy that don't get to count it as part of the RPS. And I think that needs to be fixed. And finally, I do think we need off ramps and the committee is one way to get there. But I think this legislature should be more engaged as well.

  • Anna Caballero

    Legislator

    So thank you very much, Mr. President, and I- I urge your support because this is an important issue for our state.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator. Pro tem. Senator McGuire.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Senator, thank you so much, Mr. President. I will be brief. First of all, I stand in support of SB 540. I want to take a moment to say thank you to many members in this chamber, further work on this bill. To the author, thank you. To the joint author, thank you.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    I'd like to specifically talk about the legislative authority and oversight. It is absolutely important that we move forward with this committee. Few reasons why. Number one, the success of the program. Needs to have those who approve it as part of the authorizing body. Two, it's going to protect rate payers long term.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Three, it will also assist in protecting our carbon targets and climate goals as we move forward. I also know any issue like this is going to evolve. Anything big that comes through the legislature, it's going to evolve. And I know that the author is absolutely committed to continue to work with all sides.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    And we respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no other mics up for discussion or debate, Senator Becker, would you like to close?

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Sure. Thank you. Thank my colleagues who have commented, I think particularly on the oversight. We raised questions. My colleague, we're discussing. Yes. In the conception of the council right now, both energy chairs are part of that. But I still, I know there's a lot of questions about that.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    That was a relatively recent addition and you've heard, I think, a commitment here to kind of keep working and figuring what is that right role for the legislature going forward. To my colleague from Hayward, I just, maybe we've been in different hearings or I just have heard different things, different bills. I'm not really sure.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    But we had, we started this out. We didn't. We started out with a very large hearing, just focused on this idea with all the leading opposition in that hearing. We've met with the opposition many times. We've discussed amendments with everyone. So I don't know exactly referring to, but happy to talk to anyone about the bill. Large monopolies?

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Absolutely not. This is not about control of the market. We're talking about the 40 hours a year. That's what we're talking about. 75% of our energy is long term contracts. Now this is really about those 40 hours a year.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    A very small part of our energy use that we want to be able to trade back and forth with. There's a reason that munis support this. There's a reason that the CCAs were very supportive, as we know with some of the recent amendments.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Some of the CCAs now have, have questions, some of the, some of the munis have questions, but they want this bill to happen. When you talk to the market participants, they're folks like Seattle Power, the Muni in Seattle that desperately wants this to happen.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    You talk about Portland General, which has an 80% clean energy goal by 2030, desperately wants that to happen. They're all part of the pathways. It's not really a secret.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    So the whole concept of this, the whole reason this happened as a, as a group coming together was that folks who were concerned about California control negotiate an agreement where California keeps control over our energy markets. That was a critical part of this going forward. That is the reason that everyone's on board.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    We keep control of our energy market. And being part of the larger market, we can withdraw at any time. That's the whole concept. And not only can we withdraw at any time, we have to keep the technological capability ready to go so that if we do want to restart our own market, we can do that.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    So I could really kind of go point by point there. I won't, but there's ability to rein it in. This is the opportunity to get off of fossil fuels. So I think we're maybe at very different hearings there, but happy to discuss with her and others going forward.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I do appreciate all the folks who spoke about the importance of doing this and what will happen if we don't do this.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    If the Southern power pool, if they're able to pull off, when they're getting more and more people just in the last couple months, if they're able to sort of pull something together, we're going to end up isolated. So we need to do this.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    I appreciate everyone who's had their input and wants to keep working on this going forward. And I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you for your electrifying close. Secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

  • Committee Secretary

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    [roll call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 33, noes one. The measure passes, and we are--

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Members, give us just a few minutes here, a couple of minutes. We're going to take care of some paperwork.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    We're going to recognize Senator Becker under Motions and Resolutions.

  • Josh Becker

    Legislator

    Request reconsideration of File Number 75.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Without objection, reconsideration granted. Ayes: 39; noes: zero. Ayes: 39; noes: zero. Reconsideration is granted, and we are now going back to Item 75. Secretary, please call the roll.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call for absent members.

  • Reading Clerk

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes: 36; noes: zero. The measure passes. We will now move on to File Item 62. Secretary, please read.

  • Reading Clerk

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    Senate Bill 756 by Senator Smallwood-Cuevas, an act relating to motion picture tax credits.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Smallwood-Cuevas, you are recognized.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I'm pleased to present SB 756, the Film Tax Credit Accountability and Equity Act in California's continued investment in expanding the Film and Television Tax Credit Program.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    The film and television industry is one of California's most powerful economic engines, supporting hundreds of thousands of jobs, generating billions in revenue, and helping anchor our creative economy in a globally competitive market.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    The Legislative Analyst's Office made this clear in its February 2025 report recommending that the Legislature collect more detailed demographic and geographic data to better assess the program's impact and performance. SB 756 addresses that gap by strengthening transparency and reporting within the existing tax credit program. This bill does not penalize studios.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    It simply ensures that public investments come with public accountability. Specifically, SB 756 will require the Film Commission, California Film Commission to collect demographic data for all hired employees, including disabled, veteran, and wear voluntarily disclosed race and gender, aggregate zip code hiring data to assess local employment and reporting on the use of apprentices' trainees to track, inclusion in high-wage unionized trades, and the access for disadvantaged workers from California.

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    This bill is not about punishment. It is about ensuring our investments create opportunity, equity across all communities, and with that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Cabaldon, you are recognized.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. In Budget Subcommittee Four, we, along with the Revenue and Taxation Committee, conducted like the oversight hearing on the Film Tax Credit. The amount of data is completely inadequate to assess its effectiveness with respect to diversity in employment and workforce development. This is a necessary bill in order to correct that. Ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no other mics up for discussion or debate, secretary, please call roll. I'm sorry. Senator Smallwood-Cuevas, would you like to close?

  • Lola Smallwood-Cuevas

    Legislator

    Thank you for my--comments from my good colleague from Sacramento. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you so much. Secretary, please call roll.

  • Reading Clerk

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Members, it's getting loud on the floor and some folks are missing their votes, so let's take our conversations to the back of the Chamber, please. Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes: 38; noes: zero. Measure passes. We are moving to the next item, Item 63. Maybe? We are going to go back in file order to File Item 30.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 632 by Senator Arreguin, an act relating to Workers' Compensation.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Arreguin, you are recognized.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Colleagues, I rise today to present SB 632, which establishes a Workers' Compensation rebuttal presumption for hospital employees who provide direct patient care in an acute hospital setting. The rebuttal presumption would be for specific injuries or illnesses.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    I want to clarify once again--and I think this is an issue that we can address if this bill moves out of the House to further clarify the definitions--but this only applies to hospital employees who provide direct patient care in acute hospital setting.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    And I want to make sure we narrow the focus of this for just those employees that work in a hospital setting who are in emergency care or direct patient care. Those illnesses that are covered in the bill include PTSD, respiratory illnesses, and infectious diseases, conditions clearly linked to a hospital work setting.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    This legislation is critical to ensuring that frontline healthcare workers receive timely medical treatment and Workers' Compensation benefits they deserve when suffering from job-related illnesses and injuries, and I do see this as an issue of ensuring safe staffing ratios in our hospitals, retention of the workforce, and gender equity as well.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    And just to clarify, people are already eligible for Workers' Compensation. This is creating a more streamlined process for those claims to be considered and processed. Hospital workers, particularly nurses, face high risks of occupational injuries and illnesses yet must navigate complex barriers to prove workplace causation.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    This results in delayed or denied claims, worsening health outcomes, financial strain, and exacerbated staffing shortages, and those of us that have worked in a government agency setting know that the longer it takes for people to get healthcare and the injuries or illnesses compounding is going to cost a lot more to provide that care and it's going to increase the fiscal cost.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    So being preventative and making sure that we get those issues addressed early on is actually helping save money for hospitals longterm. For several decades, California has established and expanded Workers' Compensation presumptions for first responder professions, such as peace officers and firefighters.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    These presumptions assume that certain illnesses and injuries like infectious diseases, respiratory conditions, and post-traumatic stress are work-related for these workers. In addition, during Covid, we had a rebuttal presumption for illnesses related to Covid-19. That went away. That was a time-limited presumption.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    So we already had on the books in California a presumption for healthcare workers for Covid-related illnesses and deaths. I just want to establish that for the record albeit that's not on the books anymore. Registered nurses experience workplace-related injuries and illnesses at significantly higher rates than workers in all other occupations, reflecting the demanding and hazardous nature of this profession.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    For example, nurses are particularly vulnerable to musculoskeletal injuries, with rates nearly double those of other occupations, and they face workplace violence and harmful exposure to substances at nearly four times the average rate.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Without presumptive eligibility, nurses and other hospital workers must prove that their illnesses and injuries were directly caused by their job, which can be challenging for conditions like infectious diseases, back injuries, or PTSI that may be difficult to trace to a specific workplace incident.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    I appreciate all the conversations I had with nearly all my colleagues on this bill, as well as with industry stakeholders. I want to make it clear: I am committed to making amendments to address the concerns that I've heard from my colleagues regarding costs and the impact of this bill, to narrow the presumptions in the bill, and to reduce costs. Should this bill clear the floor today, it will be a different bill--if it returns to the Senate--that's more focused and narrow.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    But I think establishing the principle, a rebuttable presumption for nurses and healthcare workers, just like we did decades ago for firefighters and police officers--these are also essential workers--I think is essential as well. I'm looking forward to continuing working closely with everyone, including the California Hospital Association should this bill move to the Assembly at the appropriate time. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Ashby, you are recognized.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you so much, Mr. Presiding Officer, and thank you to the Senator from Berkeley for bringing this bill forward. Look, I know this bill is challenging for some people today. I know that. It wouldn't be here at the end of our roster if it wasn't, but here's the thing.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    We do already do this, and one of the main differences here is that this is a workforce made almost entirely of women, and these women work in an environment full of things that would create a PTSD, infectious disease, and more than anything, hurting yourself--your back, your arms, your knees, your legs. These women go to work every day and try to help people of all sizes and shapes and get in and out of bed with various capacity to help themselves.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    This is a step we have taken before for other entities who work so hard and are our frontline responders. I believe these nurses deserve that same protection, and to the extent that some of you are wavering on this bill today and don't know what to do, want to help nurses, but aren't sure about the cost, I submit to you this: they have an amazing author in the Senator from Berkeley. I know he will keep working.

  • Angelique Ashby

    Legislator

    I know that the nurses themselves will keep working on this bill and I would submit that we give them the opportunity to do so, and if your feelings are the same when the bill returns to us, perhaps you can vote differently then, but for now, I would ask for an aye vote on SB 632.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Seyarto, you are recognized.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. So this is a subject matter of which I'm well familiar with. I'm in one of those professions that has these protections. Here's the problem: we can't afford it. I would love to give presumptive illness protections to teachers because guess what?

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    They're exposed to germs all day and they're exposed to all sorts of physical things. I'd love to give them to every profession that has a dangerous job, but we can't afford it. This is part of that unaffordability of California that is driving businesses out of business, and that includes our hospitals.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    There is a process when you get hurt or injured and that process does work. You have to prove that there is a connection to the job. When, you don't have to prove that, watch what happens. Go study some of--go look at the Workers' Comp rate for public safety from 25 years ago to now.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    It has exploded. And when you explode costs like that, you can't pay your employees, you can't give them the raises that they deserve. You can't give them the benefits that they deserve.

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    You can't reinvest in your hospitals and make sure that your hospitals are fully functioning with the staff that's needed because you're spending a lot of money on Workers' Comp insurance. So folks, I understand we want to do everything we can for our nurses, but what about our doctors? What about the other hospital staff that's working there?

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    What about our teachers? What about the people that go out and do the power lines? All of these folks have dangerous jobs. They have jobs that expose them to sometimes extraordinary hazards. But we have to think about, can we afford it? Can we afford, just like when we dealt with Medi-Cal? Can we afford that?

  • Kelly Seyarto

    Legislator

    Look what's happened. We can't, and that's what's going to happen with this. So do as you may. I will be voting no on this bill, not because I don't like nurses, but because we can't afford it, and until we can, until we have a California where we can afford to do this responsibly, then we have to say no.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Allen, you are recognized.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Well, I think the last two speakers underscore some of the compelling reasons for doing this, also some of the concerns that people have. I just have a question for the author because you may--so question of the author. Author, will you accept questions?

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    So appreciate your comments in the opening, but I just want to ask for some more specificity because you referred to respiratory but it's my understanding that you've agreed to take asthma out on a going-forward basis; I think cancer as well, two-year timeline.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    That's my understanding, but I just wanted to make sure that that was--stayed on the record because there's some important changes that have been made to address some of the cost concerns that were raised by the previous speaker.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Go. Go ahead. Senator Arreguin.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Thank you for the question. So if this bill moves out, then amendments would have to be taken in the Assembly obviously. If it doesn't, then we can't make any amendments, but what I have discussed with the sponsors is narrowing the scope of presumptions to remove cancer and asthma, as you had noted, and to shorten the period post-employment in which people can claim the presumption to two years, which would go from five years to two years.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    I think these are significant concessions that the sponsors have made to address cost concerns. We will continue to have conversations with industry and with the sponsor as this bill moves to the Assembly because I certainly understand and recognize the concerns, but I think the principle of establishing rebuttable presumption is extremely important to establish.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    So just to clarify, those are, those are things that you and the sponsor have agreed to, and then there's going to be further discussions about other changes?

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Those are the things that we have agreed to, but as I had indicated to California Hospital Association, should this bill move out of the House today, that we will sit down and we'll talk.

  • Benjamin Allen

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Padilla, you are recognized.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. President and colleagues. I rise in support, and I'll be candid as I have been with my good friend, the Senator from Berkeley. This is not an easy bill. This is a complex bill with a long and interesting history, but I rise to support fundamentally for this reason: the arc of this policy goal is absolutely correct.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    The ability to include frontline workers, such as our professional nurses, are absolutely the classification of frontline, critical workers that all of us depend on every day that saves lives and have, including mine. Is it the direction that we need to go? Is it costly? Yes. Is it complex? Yes.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    Are there concerns about adverse precedent and other issues that are legitimate operationally to healthcare delivery systems? Absolutely. But it's the right policy direction to go and I have every bit of confidence in this author's capability and character and determination to be able to move this conversation forward in a productive way.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    And briefly, just on a personal note, many of my good friends in this Chamber know it's only five years ago that I was the first official in California as Chairman of the Coastal Commission to have Covid-19 and I spent 11 days on a ventilator and was not expected to ever wake up.

  • Steve Padilla

    Legislator

    And I couldn't have visitors, couldn't talk to my family, and had to learn to walk in the six months after I was discharged from ICU, and some of my biggest heroes in life who impacted me personally were the healthcare professionals and the nurses that cared for me. Respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Menjivar, you are recognized.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President, and I want to start where my colleague from San Diego ended because I wanted to speak on the nurses that went through five years of daily deaths, and I'm reminded of my friends who were--who served with me in the Marine Corps, were deployed, then became nurses and saw more death as a nurse than they did as a Marine. And to this day, it's very difficult for her to talk about her experience as a nurse during Covid-19.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    I'm reminded of the nurses who held my uncle's hand when he died during Covid because no one else could be there. The PTSD that our nurses have and will continue to experience because of those five years is immeasurable.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    It's a period that no other kind of industry outside of our first responders of cops and firefighters would have ever thought they'd experience this ongoing kind of death. Now, on policy wise, this is why this bill is important. Through my Health Chair lens, I recognize the difficulty of this bill being introduced in a time period where were facing almost certain drastic cuts to our healthcare system.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    So on that side, I'm reminded of the public hospitals that mostly depend on Medi-Cal, other hospitals that mostly depend on Medi-Cal, and the immense impact that this could have on our hospitals, but with the commitment of this author to decreasing the length and reducing the eligibility, I know he's going to continue working in good faith to move this in the right direction.

  • Caroline Menjivar

    Legislator

    It's just unfortunate that this bill is coming, this righteous bill is coming during a time that we're making very, very unfortunate cuts and decisions to our healthcare system.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Cortese, you are recognized.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I have a little bit of history with predecessor legislation, you know, some of the bill history here, and one of the things that just absolutely has stood out to me when you take a look at this worker demographic is that 87--still to this day--87% of the workforce of registered nurses in the country are female and California's 88%.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    When you look at first responders--and I know there was an acknowledgement by one of our colleagues just a few minutes ago about the fact that first responders have these kinds of presumptions--EMTs are still 65% male-dominated nationwide and higher than that in California.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    So it's not that hard to look back at the history of what really happened here. A male-dominated Legislature made decisions over and over and over again that women who were in the business of this kind of direct, acute care and response didn't need presumptions.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And the real fallacy today--and you'll hear this--I hope this bill advances--you'll hear this in the other House if you get there--the arguments will be: why do you need presumptions? We're approving 90% of the claims anyway. If you're approving 90% of the claims anyway, why wouldn't you have a presumption?

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Isn't that the presumption that it's going to be an approved claim? Why would you make somebody with one of these conditions, one of these injuries or diseases work through two or three sets of doctors, forensic work, while they're sick, put the burden on them to prove--for these women to prove--that they're really sick and it was connected the nexus was to their work?

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    That yes, the chemicals at work is what caused the problem; it wasn't sitting around the pool on the weekend. You know, why make them do that? That's the real question. But I, I don't want to make a long set of comments today. I rise to support the bill, SB 632. I wanted to emphasize the equity issues here.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I'm hoping and hoping and hoping that as this Legislature continues to be more gender-aware--and it has become substantially more gender-aware just in the last couple of years--that once and for all, we'll correct this injustice.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And no longer will it be that when EMTs, a male-dominated profession, show up at the hospital and move a gurney to the emergency room and hand it off to women that the Workers' Comp presumptions just magically disappear as they take the gurney over. How is that? Under what natural law or unnatural law does that exist? Only under California law does that exist. That's an injustice, and with that, I would urge your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Weber Pierson, you are recognized.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Was not anticipating speaking on this bill. Appreciate the Senator for bringing this bill forward so that we could have a robust conversation about it. Unfortunately, you and I have not had a conversation about this bill, and I've gotten that opportunity.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    I think I'm probably one of the few people or maybe the only person on the floor--I'm not 100% sure--who actually has worked in a hospital, did work during Covid times, and so my concern with this bill is not that we should not provide the best level of care for those who work in the hospitals, especially our nurses--and as a physician, I work very closely with nurses on a daily basis. It really doesn't even have anything with the cost.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    But for me, the broadness in the bill is extremely concerning, the fact that there's nothing that you need to do to actually link to a specific condition that you are claiming for. So you can be a nurse and work in a variety of different areas in the hospital.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    You may not even come across a patient that has MRSA, but if you end up getting MRSA or meningitis because you happen to kiss somebody, right, then it's automatically assumed that you got it from the hospital because you're a nurse under this bill, even if you've never even managed a patient with meningitis before.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    As of right now, you do have some very concerning things. Cancer. When I saw that, I said, oh my goodness, like how can you link or just basically state all cancers? And I know you're going to work to take that out. Same thing with asthma and some other respiratory illnesses that we know are also prevalent outside and can be as a result of just your genetics, can be a result of environmental exposures.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    And so for me, my concern is just the broadness. When I look at this bill, unfortunately, I also look at it from a physician lens and I know that there are so many other things that could cause a lot of these conditions that have nothing to do with the fact that we all, well, us and nurses work in hospitals.

  • Akilah Weber Pierson

    Legislator

    So I look--if it gets off the floor today--I look forward to seeing what amendments you take in the Assembly, and hopefully, if it narrows down and looks a little bit more reasonable, I'll be able to support it when it comes back on concurrence. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Wahab, you are recognized.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Thank you. I do support this bill. I want to thank the Senator from Berkeley for bringing this forward. To me, it's not necessarily a gender-only issue or a particular workforce issue, but here's the reality: these are the folks that we trust in the most dire times.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    We have always given Covid as an example and the reality is that we did not provide enough for these first responders and people on the frontline, the fact that they had to reuse the same type of equipment and protective personnel gear and be exposed to what we didn't even understand or know, and I want to highlight this because as different strains come out, as different health concerns come out, they are always in that position.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    And absolutely--I think that the concerns that my colleagues have raised are absolutely true, that they can be exposed to a wide variety of illnesses and much more just from living their lives, but they are at risk at a greater level just doing their profession.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    Just as much as this Legislature has advocated for firefighters when they are going out and combating fires and protecting lives and saving property and much more, it's the same thing when we're talking about nurses.

  • Aisha Wahab

    Legislator

    So I respectfully ask for an aye vote and I do believe that the Senator will be working with all stakeholders to address the concerns that have been raised, and this bill will continue to evolve as it moves through the Assembly. So I respectfully ask for an aye and I appreciate the Senator's good work. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics raised for further discussion or debate, Senator Arreguin, would you like to close?

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Yes, Mr. President. I really want to thank my colleague, the only medical professional here in the Chamber, for your very thoughtful comments and look forward to engaging with you if this bill moves forward, taking advantage of your significant expertise. I think you raise, I think, a legitimate issue regarding the broadness and looking specifically about how we do, how we are able to establish causality.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    But at the end of the day, this is really about affording the same protections that we afford other essential workers and first responders to our nurses that, in addition to our doctors, are saving lives, and were on the frontlines of protecting our communities during one of the most difficult times in our country's history: the Covid-19 pandemic. This is a bill that has gone through many iterations but I think whose time has come. With that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent members.

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    [Roll Call].

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes: 22; noes: ten. The measure passes.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Members, we're going to move to item 63. This is a support support. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 759 by Senator Archuleta, an act relating to supervised release.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Archuleta, you're recognized.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Today I'm presenting Senate Bill 759, which was introduced in direct response to the shooting death of officer Keith Boyer of the City of Whittier, who served with the Whittier Police Department, by an individual on post release community supervision.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    It was the first killing of a police officer in nearly 40 years in the City of Whittier. Senate Bill 759 would require the county agency supervising the release and community supervision of an individual to revoke post release community supervision if the person violated the terms of their release for the third time or commits a new offense.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    The enhanced regulations around the revocation of the community custody would ensure that only those who are actively working to successfully re-enter the community and are not that danger the community are eligible to remain within that community. Our goal is to provide an extra layer of oversight to prevent another tragedy from occurring. Voters overwhelmingly support accountability and oversight for repeat offenders, and this bill focuses on individuals who continue to disregard and abuse the system. I respectfully ask your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics raised for discussion or debate. This item is eligible for unanimous roll call. Without objection. Seeing no objection, but hands raised. Ayes 39, noes 0. The measure passes. Exciting. Moving to item 64. Secretary.

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    Senate Bill 763 by Senator Hurtado and act relating to business.

  • Melissa Hurtado

    Legislator

    Thank.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Hurtado, you are recognized.

  • Melissa Hurtado

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Please let's give the Member.

  • Melissa Hurtado

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President,

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Our attention.

  • Melissa Hurtado

    Legislator

    California is the fourth largest economy in the world. We lead the nation with the most Fortune 500 companies. But what good is economic power if we don't have the will to enforce the rules or enforce rules that will deter illegal behavior? We can't keep bragging about our economy if we're not willing to protect it.

  • Melissa Hurtado

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask you to protect a free and fair economy by voting yes on this measure and see no mics raised for discussion or debate.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call roll.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 29. Noes, 10. The measure passes. Moving to item 65.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 771 by Senator Stern, an act relating to social media platforms.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Stern, you're recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Members, recent Harvard study found a causal relationship between widespread violence against historically targeted groups and the practices of social media platforms. Even with this escalating danger, social media platforms have announced dramatic retreats in terms of these protections online.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    We've seen a rise with the largest number ever recorded in LA County in my backyard, according to the most recent hate crime report, of crimes against the Jewish community, the LGBTQ community, AAPI community, the black community, Latino and other immigrant communities. This bill simply tries to hold algorithms that the social media platforms use to the same standards that normal people are used, that normal people are subject to when aiding and abetting crimes.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    If you aid and abet someone in the commission of a hate crime, as an average citizen, you're subject to criminal penalty or administrative penalties and in the same case should be for social media platforms. So we think that this consistency and this clarification of what we believe is existing law will help make online a less dangerous place to be and hopefully move the state forward. Respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no mics up for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, call absent Members.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 29, noes 4. The measure passes. Moving to item 66. Secretary, please read.

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    Senate Bill 842 by Senator Stern, an act related to energy.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Stern, you are again recognized.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Thank you. Members, we've been talking a lot about energy today. This bill would simply allow California's energy planning to take into account firm zero carbon resources. We know there's a greater array of technologies that will help us stabilize the grid.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    We had a study conducted by the CEC pursuant to a bill I passed a few years back that recommended we do a better job of integrating these technologies into our planning. We think this will save customers money and make our grid both lower emissions and more resilient.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Respectfully ask for your Aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no microphones raised for discussion or debate. Secretary, please call roll.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

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    [Roll Call]

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 29. Noes, 10. The measure passes. Moving to item 69. Secretary, please call or please read.

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    Senate Bill 712 by Senator Grove an act relating to air pollution.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Grove, you are recognized.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Colleagues, tonight I rise to present Senate Bill 712, also known as Leno's Law. This bipartisan bill produces a rolling smog check, proposes a rolling smog check exemption for classic cars that are 35 years or older, allowing them to be exempt from the biennially upon and upon transfer of ownership.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    The Senate Appropriations Committee amended the bill with some additional requirements for classic car owners to be exempt from these smog checks. Unfortunately, these amendments are duplicative and will hinder some car owners from pursuing their hobby that they love. A few of them.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    The new amendments require the vehicle to be, one, registered as a historic license plate, two, pass a fuel cap vision, have visual inspection, and three, be insured under a collector motor vehicle insurance. And there's only two companies I believe in the State of California that provide that insurance. It's not like you can just go to State Farm, All State, or someplace to get some reasonably priced insurance. Previously, California had a 25 year rolling smog check exemption for certain vehicles, which ended in 2005.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Leno's Law would restore a similar exemption with an update to reflect the current conditions, something car collectors have been requesting for many years. According to the California DMV, vehicles manufactured between 1976 and 1991 make up only 1% of the 30 million registered cars. Remember, we're talking, Members, we're talking about 1% of the vehicles on the road.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    The unfortunate reality is that many California smog check stations are not equipped with the necessary tools to even perform smog checks on these classic vehicles. Car enthusiasts from across the state have contacted my office and expressed how difficult it is to find a smog check station with the equipment necessary that works for their vehicle.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Recently, even one of my colleagues here on the floor said that she had to assist a constituent in trying to find a smog check station. There's only two in Southern California, and it took nine months almost to get this individual in to get a smog check for their vehicle.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I'm proud to have the former Tonight Show host Jay Leno as a co-sponsor or the sponsor of this bill. He represents thousands of of car enthusiasts across California in support. From low riders to cruisers to hot rods to JDM fans to classic car collectors, this bill speaks to a vibrant and diverse community.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Jay and other car enthusiasts recognize that these cars are pieces of rolling history, rich in culture, craftsmanship, and significance that deserve to be preserved for future generations. In many instances, these classic vehicles are sold out of state due to our stringent flight smog check requirements, meaning California forfeits the economic benefits that they bring.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    To put it into perspective, the specialty automotive aftermarket industry has contributed over $40 billion. That's with a B. $40 billion in economic activity. California has benefited from this hobby and it brings 150,000 jobs across our state, $6.16 billion in state tax revenue.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    The economic engine of these cars create, these cars create from specialty tire shops, paint shops, upholstery are all lost when current smog regulations are overburdensome for these meticulously, incredibly maintained vehicles. These vehicles are rolling works of art, reflecting generations of innovation, craftsmanship, and culture heritage in the in unique California. We're the founder of the muscle car.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    These rolling pieces of history need to stay here in California. We need to allow people to pursue their hobbies. Again, it's 1% of the cars on the road. By passing SB 712, we're not only supporting these collectors and enthusiasts, we're preserving a piece of California's history, honoring this vibrant, diverse community that's helped shaped our state's unique relationship with these vintage classes. Again, they're just rolling pieces of history. Respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Blakespear, you are recognized.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I have great respect for the author, the great Senator from Bakersfield, and I'm sorry to have to oppose her bill today, but I do rise in opposition to this bill. I'd like to take a moment to explain my position, especially in my role as Chair of the Environmental Quality Committee, even though, unfortunately, we did not get to hear this bill there.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    I understand the cultural and personal significance that these vehicles have, but they also have a real impact on public health and the environment, and this bill could drastically increase that impact. I think it's important that we talk about the exact problem this bill is solving and the change that it is making in state law.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    Collector motor vehicles 1975 and older were already exempt from smog check. They just had to meet a few basic criteria. This bill expands those exemptions even further, potentially even applying to any vehicle that is more than 35 years old going forward. These are the very same vehicles that produce the most pollution per mile.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    And without smog check, we have no way to know how much they are emitting, how much they are emitting. Recent amendments did narrow the bill somewhat, so now they require collector car insurance and historic vehicle license plates. But unfortunately, those requirements are still largely subjective and based on the vehicle owner's own judgment.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    By creating a rolling smog check exemption for any vehicle older than 35 years that the owner claims is historical or primarily used for parades and car shows, we lose a lot of information and accountability. I'm voting no today, not because I hate classic cars. And I did appreciate seeing Jay Leno in Committee.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    I appreciate that he came. But I'm voting no because I think the existing smog check exemptions for them were already generous enough for what they are. I don't want to see us lose more ground in our efforts to clean the air that we breathe.

  • Catherine Blakespear

    Legislator

    I'm not comfortable making air pollution any worse just to make life slightly easier for classic car collectors who don't want to meet the already lenient emission standards that apply to their vehicles today. And with that, I recommend a no vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Richardson, you are recognized.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    Well, first of all, I want to start off and commend the gentlelady from Bakersfield. I live in the San Pedro community, and we have quite a few of the vintage vehicles. And every weekend they line Paseo Del Mar up and down Gaffey. And I can honestly say, at least in my community, to assure our Chair, people take so much pride. They work all week so that they can come and actually drive their vehicles on the weekend.

  • Laura Richardson

    Legislator

    And I can honestly say, I really do not observe, you know, smoke and things like that. My biggest concern is there pipes that they elevate and so you hear the loud noise. But other than that, it really is a pride and joy of the community. It's something we welcome. We have the stars and stripes in many programs throughout the year. And I just want to commend the gentlelady from Bakersfield for her hard work on this measure. And I know it assures a lot of families because they want to have fun cars to celebrate with their family. Thank you very much. I urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Pérez, you are recognized.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Well, first of all, want to thank the Senator from Bakersfield for bringing forth this measure. Respectfully, I'll be having to oppose. I do want to emphasize I understand the importance of maintaining classic car culture. My mother owns a 1968 Camaro and is very, very, very proud to own one. My father is also a collector of classic cars.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But, as already was mentioned, for classic cars that are 1975 or older, they are already exempted from smog checks. And in addition to that, I don't really think that it's necessary to update that to 1992. You know, what I will say, and I think what we need to be mindful of is there are real environmental impacts when we pass these types of bills. That is part of the reasons why we have smog checks and other policies here in California. I understand that we oftentimes debate those policies and the merits of those policies.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But once upon a time, when I was a college student, I can tell you, you know, I did research around air quality and the impacts of smog, particularly in my region in Pasadena, and just how bad air quality was during the times when we didn't have many of the environmental protections that we've grown so accustomed to today. So these laws do have environmental impacts. You know, I understand for classic car owners, even those in my family, you know, it's a huge responsibility. It's a huge investment.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But I do think part of taking on that investment, taking on that responsibility is also, you know, managing some of these expectations, you know, with our current law, to make sure that we're maintaining our environment at the same time. So respectfully have to oppose and do hope that, you know, that we can continue these discussions in the future. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Archuleta, you are recognized.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. As I stand before you for the first time to comment on something for the entire week. So let's make it quick and short. What do you think? We who love our classic cars all band together. And there's something that started in beautiful downtown East LA. Classic cars. Low riding is not a crime.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    The Latino community has come together in Southern California to say, please understand, we're a culture. We are people who love our automobiles. And these cars go from generation to generation. We had Jay Leno here in Sacramento, and we had a number of people who came to say we love our classic cars. And because I do have a 1967 Oldsmobile 442 red and color convertible. It is hot. I put that in classic car shows. I always win. You know why? It's a great looking car.

  • Bob Archuleta

    Legislator

    But I will tell you this. We've got to love our cars. We are California, and this is something very important to all of us who love our classic cars. I urge an aye vote on Senate Bill 712, and I'd like to thank the author for bringing it forward. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you for your... Thank you for your words. Senators, it's getting really loud. We're almost there. Hang on, hang on by a thread. We're almost there. Senator Valladares, you are recognized.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. Today I rise on behalf of my dad who would be really mad if I didn't speak on the floor in support of this bill. And really my cousins, my brothers, who are all car enthusiastic enthusiasts. And let me just tell you something about my dad.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    He never graduated high school, but he built his first engine for a 57 Chevy when he was 15 years old. And that skill supported my family for decades and built more than just engines. It really built our family's memories. And I remember the summer of 1994 sitting in, my dad bought me a midnight blue Malibu Chevy.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    The interior was all decked out, there was no engine, but the radio worked and we'd listen. I remember sitting in that car, listening to a little bit of Lighter Shade of Brown, thinking about the days that I might take that for that lowrider through Laurel Canyon in the San Fernando Valley. And really, old cars, classics.

  • Suzette Martinez Valladares

    Legislator

    Investing in them for the Latino community is about family. It is about culture. And it's expensive. My family knows firsthand. My cousins, everyone tells me it's impossible to find a smog check. It's impossible to find parts. And this is a very meaningful legislation who the author has worked very hard on, taken a lot of amendments. And I think we owe this to our culture here in California, and I urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Cortese. You are recognized. If I can have the floor team help with order on the floor.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I want to thank the author, the Senator from Bakersfield, for bringing this forward and putting so much work into assembling a coalition, a bipartisan group of legislators. And I'm proud to be a co-author of the bill. I hope she...

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Well, let me just say her presentation was excellent, but it was very rapid fire, and I hope people really heard some of the actual things that she said. This represents less than 1% of the population of all vehicles that are out there. And by the way, it's a declining population.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    In Senate Transportation Committee, we heard those numbers and those extrapolations. They're not making these cars anymore and they're rapidly declining in the population of them. But the biggest issue of all is we're hearing a lot of discussion about whether or not the air is going to be cleaner with a smog certificate or not.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    The smog certificate doesn't make the car run cleaner at all. It conceivably could mean, it conceivably could mean that you can't legally drive the car down the street. But I can guarantee you, as somebody who has a couple of old cars myself that are already exempt, that car does not sit idle. The car is run.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    The car is going to be run even if it has to be run on private property because that's how it works. They need exercise. A car, that's going to happen. Jay Leno doesn't drive all of his cars every weekend, but I guarantee you he has somebody starting and running those cars all the time.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    So it's really a false premise that somehow if you require smog certificates on those cars and they don't pass, that suddenly the air is going to be cleaner. These are cars 35 years old. And it came. We asked for this testimony in Committee that of average, average, typically 12,000 miles per year, that's 420,000 miles on a car. That car has either been completely modified and rebuilt and customized or it's not.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    This, without this bill, you can't actually make the car run cleaner because you're not allowed to modify it because then you would disqualify yourself from getting a smog certificate. So it's a common sense bill. It makes all the sense in the world, and I would urge an aye vote.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Seeing no other mics up for discussion or debate. Senator Grove, you can drive this bill to the finish line.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. I appreciate all the debate. I just want to share some things with you. People look at classic cars differently. There are a few of you, no offense, in this chamber that would think a 1957 Chevy is the hottest thing on wheels. I, however, am 60 years old, and when I graduated from high school, my dream car and the car I always wanted, but my mom was a single mom and could never afford anything, was a 1987 Trans Am with the one with the Firebird on the hood and the whole bit.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    And there was somebody that had that car and I'd see it go by and I'm like, wow, you know. If I could restore a vehicle, that, that would be my vehicle, but it wouldn't be considered a classic car under this, the way this law, the law is right now because we only allow vehicles from 1976 back.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    I mean, in 1976 I was, you know, 12 years old. It's not, you know, it's not the same thing. I mean, I know the former Secretary of Natural Resources be all hot and bothered over a 57 Chevy, but it just doesn't work for all of us. And as our kids and our grandkids grow up, they're not even going to be interested in a Firebird. They're going to be interested in, you know, not to be controversial, but I mean, who knows, right? A truck, you know, whatever. So I was like, no.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    So I just think people have a different outlook on what they think is important to them and the things that they would want to restore in their heritage and their culture. I think about a 1981 Impala. It was a guy that we met out at the car cruise, a 1981 Impala, restored vinyl top.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    It's bouncing down the road. You know, next to us it's a lowrider. This guy came out and talked to Jay Leno. They actually went to a car club together and Jay grabbed him and he's like, I love Latino lowrider clubs. They're so family orientated. Because it is culture and it is something they want to share.

  • Shannon Grove

    Legislator

    That 1981 Impala that was candy apple red with a vinyl top with diamond tucked interior is not allowed to be exempted under this, under the current law. And so we're just trying to make it easy for people to do this, to pursue their passions, and, you know, just change culture a little bit and, and let us enjoy the vehicles that we like to enjoy. And the people that are needing this exemption respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call the roll.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes 32, noes 3. The measure passes. Members, we are minutes away from wrapping this up today. File item 21. Secretary, please read.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 356 by Senator Jones an act relating to parole.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Jones, you are recognized.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. And Members in the back. I appreciate your attention. This evening, I'm presenting file item 21, which is SB356. Colleagues, this bill aims to restore fairness and consistency to the parole hearing process by ensuring commissioners have access to relevant photographs.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Historically, the Board of Parole Hearings has accepted crime scene and autopsy photographs as part of the hearing record. These materials helped commissioners better understand the facts of the case and the impact on the victims and their families. In January 2024, the board adopted a policy change that excludes certain photographs from being considered if they are deemed graphic.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    While this may have been well intended, it has raised concerns about the exclusion of important context during parole hearings. SB356 would restore the board's prior practice by requiring the board to accept these photos as part of the hearing record. This bill does not direct commissioners on how to weigh these materials.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    It simply ensures the materials are available to support a more complete and informed review. SB356 seeks to ensure that the parole process remains balanced, transparent, and inclusive of the victims and their families. This is an important issue that simply brings the Legislature back into the process after a significant policy change was made by the board administratively.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I ask for your Aye vote this evening on SB356.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Senator Arreguin, you are recognized.

  • Jesse Arreguin

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. The Chair of the Public Safety Committee. I just want to acknowledge that we worked with the author on amendments to this bill to narrow the scope of the photographs that would be admissible. And on that basis, I will be voting for the bill today.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no other mic's up for discussion or debate, Senator Jones, you may close.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Yes, that is true. I appreciate the Chairman and his staff and the assistance of the entire Committee on Public Safety for helping make this bill even better. And I ask for your Aye vote.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, we will begin at the top of the Alphabet here. Call for absent Members. For all Members.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Okay, Ayes, 26. Noes, 9. The measure passes. Members, we have one more bill and then special consent. This next bill is a Support Support file item 76. Secretary, please read.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senate Bill 661 by Senator Hurtado an act relating to airports and making an appropriation, therefore.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Senator Hurtado, you are recognized.

  • Melissa Hurtado

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. President. SB661 has lift runaway clearance. With bipartisan support and no fiscal turbulence. SB661 is wheels up and needs your Aye vote for takeoff without delays. Thank you.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    I will not even go there. With no mics raised for discussion or debate, this item is eligible for unanimous. We do have a mic raised and then we had a mic lower. This item is. She just wanted to get your attention. That succeeded. This item is eligible for unanimous roll call. So Ayes, 39. Noes, 0.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    The measure passes. Okay, Members, we're going to move to the special consent calendar. Are there any Members that would like to remove an item from the consent calendar seeing no one jumping to that opportunity? Secretary, please read the items on the consent special consent Calendar.

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    Senate Bill 3. Senate Bill 86. 228, 244, 271, 380, 451, 471, 556, 595, 710, 718, 727, 761, 775, 776, 800.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Well done. Secretary, please call the roll.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call absent Members.

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  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    Ayes, 39. Noes, 0. On file, item 97. Ayes, 39. Noes, 0. On the special consent calendar. And the special consent calendar is adopted. If there is no other business. Senator McGuire. The desk is finally clear, ladies and gentlemen.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Send it. Amazing work. Let's give a round of applause, everybody. My goodness. Really nice job. Thank you for all of the hard work. We have made significant progress this week.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    I want to say thank you to each and every one of the Members for the passion, for the hard work, the tenacity and of course, the commitment to the people of California. Let's talk about some good news first.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Tomorrow we're going to move up our start time to 9am tomorrow we're going to move up our start time to 9am and it's going to be an efficient session. We have a respectful request that Members do not book flights before noon.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    But the good news is you can book flights starting at noon, not on Friday, tomorrow, which is going to be really fantastic that you're going to be able to get back to your families and the good work that you do in your districts. We'll have our morning agenda.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    We'll work through that efficiently, and we'll be able to say thank you to each and every one of you. And then we're going to do it all again tomorrow, all again next week. I should say the last reminder is that on budget, we have been saying this, I think, for the last, I don't know, four weeks.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Want to remind folks not to make plans for next weekend. We may be in budget session next weekend. Senator Syrto is very excited about that. He just said so. Do not make plans for next weekend. That's June 14th and 15th. We will finalize dates as we work with the chair and Vice Chair of budget. All right.

  • Mike McGuire

    Legislator

    Until tomorrow, Thursday, June 5th at 9:00 a.m. thank you for the incredible work. Work, Mr. President. Take it away.

  • Timothy Grayson

    Legislator

    The Senate is adjourned. We will reconvene Thursday, June 5, 2025 at 9.

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