Hearings

Assembly Standing Committee on Human Services

April 14, 2026
  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. I call this hearing of the Assembly Committee on Human Services to order. I would like to start today's hearing by welcoming Assemblymember Solace, who will be filling in for Assemblymember Solace Rodriguez. Once we have established a quorum, we have 24 measures on the agenda, five of which are on consent. Please note that we limit testimony to two witnesses in support and two witnesses in opposition.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Each witness has two minutes to testify. In addition to, all additional witnesses will be limited to stating their name, organization, if they represent one, and a position on the bill. I also want to note that that we are accepting written testimony through the position portal letter portal on the committee's website. Lastly, we'd like to address disruptions during the hearing. Conduct that disrupts or otherwise impedes the orderly conduct of this hearing is prohibited.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    If disrupt if disruptive behavior occurs today, you will be removed from the hearing room by the assembly sergeants. Now for a little housekeeping. File item number 7AB1989, Tangipa. File item number 20 AB2500, Celestia Rodriguez, have been pulled by the authors and will not be heard for today. The Assembly Rules Committee has determined that file item number 11, AB 2189 Nguyen, also falls within jurisdiction of the Assembly Committee on Education.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Should the bill pass out of this committee, it will be referred to the Assembly Committee on Education. Since we do not yet have a quorum, we'll start as a subcommittee of members. And I see that our first author is here to present file item number one, AB 1575 by Assembly Member Rembula. So you may begin when you are ready.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mister Chair and Madam Vice Chair. I would like to begin by thanking the chair and the committee staff for their work on this bill. The Lanterman Act is a landmark law in California guaranteeing rights and services for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Prior to its passage, individuals within the IDD community were often subject to overcrowded state hospitals and institutions without access to education, socializations, or the opportunity to receive care and services at home.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    By ensuring the state's responsibility to the care for persons with developmental disabilities, the act changed the landscape of disability in California and went a long way to lessening the associated stigma. Unfortunately, despite these existing protections, adults with disabilities continue to experience discrimination in education, employment, and in health care settings.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    AB 1575 continues this arc of progress by changing the definition of respite services to allow for care in and around the community, providing greater access to socialization and continuation of daily routines for members of the IDD community. This bill also updates the Lanterman Act to ensure consistent use of person first language, emphasizing each person's humanity and moving away from stigmatizing language.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Here to testify in support of AB 1575 is Joe Meadours, former executive director of People First of California, and Alex Mountford, president of California Respite Association.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Are your witnesses present there? Okay. Yes. You can come up to the desk here.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Welcome. Alright. You have two minutes, and you can begin, whoever wants to start, you can begin when you're ready.

  • Joe Meadours

    Person

    Good afternoon. Hello. My name is Joe Meadours. I am the former executive director of People First of California, a self advocacy team network. I am also a person with a development disability.

  • Joe Meadours

    Person

    And I am here to speak for many of my peers with a disability. I am here to support AB 1575 because I believe it's in the need or per for the person's first language in their laws. The moment towards people first language begin in the late nineteen eighties, over forty years ago. It was about putting the person person before the disability. It it helped reduce harmful labels by showing that a disability is just one part of of who someone is.

  • Joe Meadours

    Person

    At the time, as the time as as times are changing, our language should change too. The term of "consumer" in the Langham Act may once been okay, but it's no longer okay. The consumer bothers me, it doesn't not sound like a person. When when I when I hear consumer, I think of someone eating something something. It is not clear and does not describe who you who you are talking about.

  • Joe Meadours

    Person

    The change is the is the law could stop calling me a consumer. From now and on, I would be call a person eligible for regional center services. When when when you are talking about me, please call me a person. I want to be treated like a person. Thank you very much.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, Joe.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Alright. Next witness please.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    Hello, Assembly. My name is Alex Mountford. I'm the CEO of Manos as well as the president of the California Respite Association. AB 1575 updates the definition of respite to provide clarity and consistency on where in-home respite services can be provided.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    When in-home respite services are authorized, we see some regional center state that the services can only be provided within the four walls of the home, while others allow the individual to access the community resources such as a park down the street during their respite services.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    There have even been cases where different case managers in the same regional center will have differing interpretations on where respite can be provided. The language in this bill provides clarity and updates the definition that has not been changed since the seventies. Especially now that in-home respite is a home and community based service, this legislation ensures that community access is an option for the individuals receiving in-home respite services.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    I'd also like to provide a little clarity on what this what these changes do and do not do. This bill does not change what in-home respite is nor the types of supports provided to an individual during these services.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    This bill does not authorize or add transportation or driving components to in-home respite and does not create any additional costs outside of the established and existing rate structures already in existence for in-home respite services.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    AB 1575 provides clarity that it is an option to go into the community during these services. This community access is not guaranteed, but is available based on what the individual case manager, planning team, and service providers determine is safe and appropriate.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    Providing clarity and enabling an individual to access the community when appropriate and safe during in-home respite services ensures that that individual has all the integration and engagement opportunities as their neurotypical peers. That they are truly a part of their community while receiving in-home respite services and are not being strictly confined to their home.

  • Alex Mountford

    Person

    In closing, AB 1575 is important, impactful, no cost legislation that supports the IDD community and ensures consistency for in-home respite services. Thank you for your time.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Now do we have members of the public who wish to testify in support of the bill? Please come to the microphone. Name and organization, please. Give it one second to turn on first. Okay. Go for it.

  • Eric Ciampa

    Person

    Eric Ciampa with United Cerebral Palsy here in Sacramento. We're in support. Thank you.

  • Diana Gonzalez

    Person

    Diana Gonzalez, public policy and advocacy manager at Manos Home Care, and we're here in support of AB 1575.

  • Julie Schurman

    Person

    Hi there. Julie Sherman, director of public policy of the Arc and UCP California Collaborative for the bill sponsor. Thank you.

  • Shauna Day

    Person

    Good afternoon. Shauna Day, senior director of government relations, 24 Hour Home Care in support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Now do we have any, witnesses in opposition to the bill, please come forward? Any members of the public who wish to testify in opposition to the bill, please come forward? Alright. Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the dais for the committee members. Any questions or comments?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Any questions or comments? Oh, Assembly Member Elhawary go ahead.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    I just wanted to, thank the author and especially the witnesses for sharing your experiences and your story with us, and especially around utilizing people first language.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    I would also like to thank the author for bringing this bill forward. And, and many of the bills that Assembly Member's does is always people centric, and this is one of those things updating the letter of law to be people centric so that the spirit of all our services are people centric. I recommend an aye vote on this matter when, we have a quorum to vote on it. But, Assembly Member, would you like to close?

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mister Chair, for the opportunity to present Assembly Bill 1575. Ultimately, this bill is about making sure that persons with intellectual and developmental disabilities are treated with the dignity and respect that they deserve. I respectfully ask for an aye vote when it's appropriate.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. We will take the matter up when we have a quorum. Thank you. Okay. Do I, I saw I saw another author. Oh, you have a sorry.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Serves you well.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Assembly Member Arambula, you're on a roll. Which one do you wanna go for? You wanna go file item 18, 21, or 25 or 22. Sorry.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    I can do whichever order pleases you, sir.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    If you could do all three simultaneously. No. If you could do, follow-up 18 AB 2470. Let's start with that one.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, mister chair and madam vice chair. AB2470 addresses a critical but often overlooked issue, the economic impact of intimate partner violence. According to a 2021 report from the Little Hoover Commission, beyond the crisis, IPV is widespread, impacting women, men, and especially vulnerable populations, including young people and transgender individuals. IP b IPV goes well beyond physical violence. So survivors often face financial abuse, identity theft, damaged credit, and loss of vital documents.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    These barriers make it extremely difficult to secure housing, employment, and to provide stability necessary to escape from abuse. AB 2470 establishes a statewide one step reentry program to help survivors to replace vital documents, to repair credit and financial damage, to protect against future economic abuse, and it also expands flexibilities in the CalWORKs emergency housing program by allowing survivors to use unspent funds for permanent housing needs. Economic stability is essential to survivor safety.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Without it, survivors are at a higher risk of returning to abusive situations. This bill streamlines access to services, reduces barriers to service, and supports dignity, independence, and long term recovery of survivors.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    With me today to provide testimony is Tamar Foster, deputy executive director of the Little Hoover Commission.

  • Tamar Foster

    Person

    Good afternoon, chair Lee and members. Again, my name is Tamar Foster. I'm deputy executive director of Little Hoover Commission. Back in 2021, we released a report that examined how the state responded, to intimate partner violence. We found that survivors often experience financial abuse, which affects them long after they've left their abuser.

  • Tamar Foster

    Person

    Many survivors have lost access to their identity documents, and even control over their bank, credit, and other financial accounts. This blocks them from resources that they may may need to flee. Some have had their Social Security number used to create accounts and open lines of credit without their knowledge. This can make it transportation, childcare, and permanent housing, particularly if survivors lack funds to cover deposits, move in costs, and other upfront costs.

  • Tamar Foster

    Person

    So we recommended a one stop reentry program to help survivors recover identity documents, help them understand their financial picture, repair their credit, and connect with legal and federal resources.

  • Tamar Foster

    Person

    We also recommended improving the flexibility of CalWORKs emergency housing voucher program by allowing domestic violence survivors to use their unspent funds to help them pay for permanent housing. Because AB 2040 sorry, twenty four seventy implements these recommendations, we respectfully request your aye vote when the time is appropriate. Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you so much. Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room to testify and support? Do we have any members in the audience that are primary witnesses in opposition? Seeing none. Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room to testify in opposition?

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    I'm going to bring it back to the committee. Is there any comments from committee? From the committee? I actually just want to thank you for this. I have in the past worked with, victims of domestic violence, as well as the perpetrators as well.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    So I do thank you for this. It is important to be able to help them in those situations that are very difficult to get out of. So thank you for the bill. And I'd like to invite you to close.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam chair, for the opportunity to present. I respectfully ask for an aye vote when appropriate.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you so much. Okay. So now, we are going to move to file item 21, AB 2510.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam vice chair. AB 2510 strengthens the CalWORKs family reunification program by ensuring that families have the support they need to bring children home safely and successfully. CalWORKs provides critical supports to families working to reunify with their children who have been placed in foster care, including the family reunification funding for families who have had their children removed from the home. Successful reunification requires stable housing, food, childcare, and transportation.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    However, under the current rules, all CalWORKs eligible children must be removed from the home to qualify for reunification funds.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Cutting off support during this critical time undermines reunification efforts and creates unnecessary hardship that jeopardizes family stability and delays reunification. This bill aligns policy with the goal of keeping families together whenever safely possible and increases the likelihood of timely reunification. AB 2510 ensures that families have access to these critical resources by allowing families to continue receiving cash aid and childcare during the reunification process. This bill is about stability, equity, and better outcomes for children and families.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    With me to testify in support is Rebecca Gonzalez, policy advocate at the Western Center of Law and Poverty, as well as COI with the Coalition of California Welfare Rights Organizations.

  • Rebecca Gonzales

    Person

    Good afternoon. My name is Rebecca Gonzales with the Western Center on Law and Poverty. We are cosponsors of AB 2510 along with the reimagined CalWORKs Coalition. This bill updates the CalWORKS family reunification program to remove barriers that prevent parents from continuing to receive cash aid and services while their children are temporarily placed outside the home in foster care or the home of a relative. This allows the state to better achieve its goal of family reunification by promoting family stabilization.

  • Rebecca Gonzales

    Person

    The 2021 law allowed the California Department of Social Services to issue guidance to the counties to implement the program.

  • Rebecca Gonzales

    Person

    In doing so, the department restricted what a family can continue to receive assistance in ways which are inconsistent with the intent of the statute. The department resolved several of our concerns about the guidance, but, ultimately, the areas addressed in twenty five ten were identified as needing statutory clarification. As mentioned, this bill, says that not not all children have to be removed in order to continue receiving reunification cash aid.

  • Rebecca Gonzales

    Person

    Two, re reunification aid can be continued when an eligible child joins the family, such as the birth of another child or in case cases of partial reunification when the parents are still meeting conditions to have the other children returned. Three, automatically ends the immunization sanction for families who fail to show proof of immunization or submit a statement of good cause.

  • Rebecca Gonzales

    Person

    This bill would restore the parents' aid since they do not have physical or legal custody of the child. Thus they cannot meet that requirement. Four, specify that parents must navigate only one set of requirements that cover both reunification and welfare to work requirements in a unified plan. Five, specify that the assignment of child support and child support cooperation agreements are suspended during this period. Six, clarify for families when the children were removed from one parent and placed with the other parent otherwise eligible for CalWORKs.

  • Rebecca Gonzales

    Person

    The CalWORKs parent can receive, family reunification aid. Lastly, ensure the sixty month limit on CalWORKs time and aid is not running for CalWORKs family reunification families. This bill helps to fulfill the state's goal of reunifying CalWORKs families by removing unnecessary barriers. We ask for your support of this bill. Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any members of the public in support? Do we have any witness that are you in support? Say your name and your position.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    Good afternoon. Amanda Kirchner on behalf of County Welfare Directors Association in support.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any primary witnesses in opposition? Do we have any members of the public in opposition? I'm gonna bring it back to the committee. Any questions from the committee members? And would you like to close?

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you for the opportunity to present. I respectfully ask for an aye vote when appropriate.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you. Awesome.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    And now we are moving to file item 22, AB 2585.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam vice chair. I would like to begin by thanking the chair and their committee for their work on this bill. Guaranteed income pilot programs across California and the nation have demonstrated promising results, including improved financial stability, health outcomes, and participants' ability to pursue education, employment, and safe housing. Pregnant individuals, parents of young children, foster youth, and survivors of intimate partner violence often experience significant economic instability during critical periods of their lives.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Providing modest direct cash assistance during these pivotal moments can help stabilize families, reduce financial stress, and improve outcomes for both parents and children.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    However, many regions, particularly underserved and rural areas, have not yet had the opportunity to participate in or benefit from these efforts. Because California's communities vary widely in terms of cost of living, economic conditions, and access to services, expanding pilots to include counties that have not previously received funding is critical. Here with me to testify in support of AB 2585 is Amber Crowell with the professor of department of sociology at CSU Fresno.

  • Amber Crowell

    Person

    Good afternoon. Guaranteed income has been shown to improve income volatility, quality of life, and economic opportunity. However, most of what we know about guaranteed income in California and across The US has come from studies conducted in urban areas. This is why I'm here to support AB 2585. None of the GI pilots that were funded by the state of California in 2022 were in the Central Valley despite high levels of poverty in the region and the need for geographic diversity.

  • Amber Crowell

    Person

    After not receiving funding from California's round of guaranteed income pilots in 2022 in Fresno County, we raised funds to conduct our own guaranteed income pilot, where we have the largest urban center in the San Joaquin Valley, but also many rural communities that are home to the farm workers who sustain our food production. It was important for us to understand how San Joaquin Valley communities often overlooked by state programs could benefit from a stronger and more robust social safety net.

  • Amber Crowell

    Person

    The only other GI pilot conducted in the valley was led by former mayor Michael Tubbs in Stockton, which was also not state funded. We focused on the urban community of Southwest Fresno and the rural community of Huron, where over a third of families live in poverty. We conducted our pilot and study from 2024 to 2025.

  • Amber Crowell

    Person

    I served as lead evaluator of this study, and we conducted surveys and focus groups over a twelve month period using a randomized controlled trial design to understand how guaranteed income was affecting the lives of families in Southwest Fresno and Huron. What we found was largely aligned with what other pilots have concluded, but some of our findings, particular to the small farm farmworker community of Huron and marginalized families in Southwest Fresno illuminated some important contextual factors that require more study of rural and underserved communities.

  • Amber Crowell

    Person

    We found that while families enjoyed improved quality of life, reduced debt spending, and better parenting experiences, they also voiced experiences that come from living in rural and marginalized communities, where even with improved income stability, it is still difficult to access childcare, health care, education, and job opportunities, which are the ramps that GI is meant to get them to. One small study is not enough to fully understand these dynamics.

  • Amber Crowell

    Person

    These communities deserve social safety net investments as well, but we need to better understand how to create a social safety net that is robust enough to support areas where access to resources, services, and opportunities is more limited.

  • Amber Crowell

    Person

    A new round of guaranteed income pilots for rural and understudied communities is needed so that this anti poverty approach, which is so effective, is also informed by empirical data from both urban and rural communities. Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Are there any members in the public in support? State your name and position.

  • Rebecca Gonzales

    Person

    Rebecca Gonzales with the Western Center on Law and Poverty in support. Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Do we have any primary witnesses in opposition to the bill? Do we have any members of the public in opposition? And I'll bring it back to the committee. Any questions? Okay.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you. And I'd like to invite the author to close. Thank you.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you for the opportunity to present assembly bill twenty five eighty five. Ultimately, this bill is about making sure that Californians who are experiencing economic instability in rural and disadvantaged areas are able to receive state funding when we create these types of funding streams for GBIs in the future. Thank you, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote when appropriate.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. We are moving to file item five, AB 1932, l Huari.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Okay. Sorry about that. We just wanted to make sure our witnesses were ready to go. Good afternoon, madam chair and members. I'm here to present AB 1932, the crisis act two point o.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    This bill builds on a system that is already working, community based crisis response that meets people where they are. We know law enforcement is not always the right response for someone experiencing a mental health crisis or a social abuse crisis. And too often, those situations escalate when they don't have to. The crisis pilot program established by statute in 2021 has shown that trained community based responders can provide more appropriate and effective care. AB 1932 simply continues and strengthens that work.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    If we let these programs lapse or this program lapse, we're not starting over. We're taking away a resource communities are already relying on. This is especially important for communities of color and for people navigating mental health or substance use challenges who need consistent, culturally competent care in moments of crisis. This bill is about making sure the right response shows up at the right time. It reduces harm, prevents escalation, and supports better outcomes for everyone involved.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Testifying with me today are Erica Naranjo, who has been directly impacted, and Asantewa Boykin, an interventionist with Mental Health First. Also with me today is Jay Kian Wood. Is Kian Wood for technical support.

  • Erica Naranjo

    Person

    Good afternoon. My name is Erica Naranjo. On 09/28/2022, my father, Jaime Naranjo, was killed by Sacramento sheriff during a mental health crisis. A single deputy arrived, and within twenty three seconds, my father was shot five times. Twenty three seconds.

  • Erica Naranjo

    Person

    That's not enough time to understand a person. That's not enough time to deescalate a situation. That's search certainly not enough time to save a life. We are taught from a young age, if you need help, call 911. But what happens when that help that arrives isn't trained to handle a mental health emergency?

  • Erica Naranjo

    Person

    What happens when asking for help becomes a death sentence? My dad didn't need force. He needed care. He needed trained professionals who understood crisis, compassion, and deescalation. Instead, he became another statistic.

  • Erica Naranjo

    Person

    Having an untreated mental health issue makes you 16 times more likely to be shot by law enforcement. And truth is, this is not uncommon. Every year, families like mine are left grieving love loved ones who should still be here today. People experiencing mental health crisis are too often met with systems that are not built to support them. This is why funding matters.

  • Erica Naranjo

    Person

    We need investments in mental health response teams, trained professionals who can respond with empathy, skill, and the right tools to save lives. We need systems that prioritize care over control, understanding over fear because this isn't just about policy. It's about people. It's about fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, Michelle Shirley, Daryl Richards, Christopher Gilmore, and Gabby Nevarez. My daddy's life mattered, and so do the lives of everyone who will face a mental health crisis tomorrow.

  • Erica Naranjo

    Person

    We cannot keep responding the same way and expecting different outcomes. Funding mental health services is not optional. It is urgent and is necessary and is long overdue, and I strongly support AB 1932. Thank you.

  • Asantewaa Boykin

    Person

    Hi. My name is Asantewaa. I'm a board certified psychiatric mental health nurse. I'm currently working at the emergency department at UC Davis. I'm also one of the cocreators of Mental Health First and cofounder of the Anti Police Care Project.

  • Asantewaa Boykin

    Person

    I know that you guys have probably heard a lot about what happens when police show up to mental health crisis. I would like to share with you some of the things that happen when community shows up. I've personally seen sexual assault victims get rerouted to leave instead of waiting in an emergency department just to add another backlogged rape kit.

  • Asantewaa Boykin

    Person

    I've also seen folks who needed acute mental health care, get that care and get to go in an ambulance instead of in the back of a police car handcuffed. I've also seen people who wanted to go in an ambulance, wanted to go to mental health urgent care, and got to go to those places instead of going to Sac County jail.

  • Asantewaa Boykin

    Person

    Excuse me. It's a lot. I've seen folks who got I've seen folks who are not clinicians spend a lot of their time volunteering, doing it for free. And one of the things that the crisis I've brought about is some of those folks were able to do the work that they're really passionate about and skilled about and actually be able to get an income and proliferate those things. I had a colleague who was not who worked in mental health care and had done so for years.

  • Asantewaa Boykin

    Person

    She had an intimate understanding of what happens when you say things like, I feel like I don't wanna live anymore, or I I don't have a reason to get out of bed. Right? You get your rights and your dignity stripped from you. I wish we had would have done something sooner because instead, she could have reached out for help instead of quietly planning her suicide that she completed. So thank you for backing this bill.

  • Asantewaa Boykin

    Person

    I know you're gonna vote yes. The people need this, and we don't need to lose any more fathers or health care professionals because the systems that we have are unfriendly.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Do we have do we have any members of the public in support? Yes. State your name and your position, please.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Good afternoon. Jasmine Asher representing the Greater Sacramento Urban League. We're in support.

  • Sheila Bates

    Person

    Sheila Bates with Black Lives Matter California and Health Care for Us in strong support.

  • Darby Kernan

    Person

    Good afternoon. Darby Kernan for End Child Poverty California in support.

  • Zachariah Okenda

    Person

    Hi. Zechariah Okendo. I'm a suicide survivor in support.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Mandy Yeeke with Southeast Asia Resource Action Center in strong support.

  • Alejandro Solis

    Person

    Alejandro Solis on behalf of CPCA Advocates in support. Thank you.

  • Eric Parades

    Person

    Eric Paredes with the California Faculty Association in support.

  • Nancy Netherland

    Person

    Nancy Netherland, parent of a child impacted by this bill and also little lobbyist in strong support.

  • Sally Ching

    Person

    Sally Ching with the Alliance for Boys and Men of Color in strong support. And if I may read off orgs, who would also like to give their me too? Urban Peace Institute, California Coalition Women's Prisoners, Nextdoor Solutions to Domestic Violence, Californians United for a Responsible Budget, Transitions Clinic Network, Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, Transformative Programming Works, A New Path, Clyde Foundation, Felony Murder Elimination Project, and Buen Vicino.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Additional me too's from the South Bay People Power from South Bay People Power, Health and Partnership, Kindred, Travajartis, Unatos, Work United, TUWU, Street Level Health Project, National Compadres Network, Empowering Marginalized Asian Communities, Prevention Institute, the Children's Defense Fund of California Services for Immigrant Rights and Education Networks, also known as SIREN, a new way of life reentry project, and end child poverty California.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    There's a few more right here.

  • Keyon Bliss

    Person

    Keyon Bliss, speaking on behalf of the Anti Police Terror Project, in strong support, and, additional organizations also, speaking up in Me Too's, the Peace and Justice Law Center, Sisters Warriors Freedom Coalition, San Francisco Public Defender's Office, Californians for Safety and Justice, Legal Services for Prisoners with Children, California Coalition of Women Prisoners, Justice to Jobs Coalition, La Defensa, Orange County Rapid Response Network, the Collective Healing and Transformation Project, Youth Leadership Institute, and Bend the Arc Jewish Action California.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any witnesses in opposition? Do we have any members of the public that wanna testify in opposition? None. And seeing none, I'll bring it back to the committee.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Any committee members have any comments? Thank you. And I want to invite the author to close.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. And we are going to move to file item number nine, AB 2126, Elhaware. And I'll invite you to. Let's switch that since mister Gonzales is here, we are going to move to file item four, AB 1925.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    And Assemblymember Gonzalez, please present your bill.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    The witnesses. Good afternoon, Madam Chair and Members. I'm pleased to present AB 1925, which takes an important step toward improving how California serves individuals living with permanent disabilities. Today, millions of Californians with permanent disabilities rely on multiple programs to meet their basic needs, including health care, housing, in home services, transportation, and utilities. However, each of these programs often requires its own separate verification of disability status.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    As a result, individuals with lifelong conditions are forced to repeatedly prove the same disability over and over again, even when there's no expectation of improvement. This is not just a bill or me just reading from this. This is actually in my house. This is happening in my home where my own son, RJ, lives with cerebral palsy, with spastic quadriplegia, and a seizure disorder. He's 33.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    He can't walk or speak. And these disabilities, yet each year, we are required to once again take a trip to the doctor to prove he still lives with these disabilities. I pray for a miracle. That would be amazing. But the reality is he has cerebral palsy.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Because he has no use of his arms or legs, transportation is a real challenge. I'll go off script quite often because this is very much in my house, such as my wife taking him to the doctor, picking him up, putting him in a chair, moving him to the to to the car, picking him up from the chair to the car, going to the doctor, picking him up, putting him back into the chair, so on and so forth. So imagine doing that and pregnant.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Imagine doing that and I'm up here. This is members, this is not the way.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    The duplicative the duplicative process creates real hardship. Families must repeatedly gather medical records, schedule appointments, and submit documentation across multiple agencies. Medical providers spend valuable time completing similar forms again and again. Meanwhile, state and local agencies devote resources to verifying conditions that have already been established and are not likely to change. Even more concerning, this fragmented system can lead to interruptions in essential services.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    This has happened in my house for months at a time. This is this is real. Individuals may lose access to benefits or face delays simply because paperwork deadlines are missed or standards vary between programs, not because their conditions have changed. AB 1925 addresses this challenge in a thoughtful and responsible way. This bill does not create a new certification program today.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Instead, it requires the California Health and Human Services Agency to conduct a comprehensive feasibility study to evaluate the challenges and opportunities associated with establishing a statewide permanent disability certification program. Again, a study. This is to determine if we can do this. Right? The study will examine key issues such as fraud prevention, privacy protections, technology feasibility, and compatibility with existing federal, state, and local programs.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    It will also require consultation with stakeholders, including disability led organizations, independent independent living centers, and county agencies to ensure the voices of those most affected are heard throughout the process, to ensure the voices of the most literally the most vulnerable are heard. This is a careful and measured approach. Establishing a permanent disability certification is a complex undertaking, and it must be done correctly. That's why I asked for a study.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    By requiring a feasibility study, AB 1925 ensures that policymakers have the data and analysis necessary to design a system that reduces administrative burden while protecting privacy, preventing fraud, and maintaining program integrity.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Ultimately, the goal of AB 1925 is simple, to make government work better for individuals with permanent disabilities. By identifying opportunities to streamline verification process, we can reduce administrative duplication, improve continuity of services, and allow individuals and families to focus less on paperwork and more on their health, independence, and quality of life. Members, AB 1925 represents a responsible first step toward a more coordinated and efficient disability services system in California. It recognizes that permanent disabilities should not require permanent paperwork.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    For these reasons, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Beside me is the is the member from Stanislaus County and joint author of AB 1925, the honorable Assemblyman Juan Alaniz, as well as Heather Stegall representing the sponsor of this measure, Disability Resource Agencies for Independent Living, and Ted Jackson representing the Marin Center for Independent Living.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    I'll go real quick.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam chair and members. I wanna thank assembly member Gonzales for bringing forward AB 1925, and I'm proud to be a joint author. As the author outlined, individuals with permanent disabilities are often required to repeatedly verify the same lifelong conditions across multiple programs, creating unnecessary administrative burdens and, in some cases, disruptions in services. AB 1925 takes a measured approach by directing the state to study whether a standardized statewide certification could improve coordination, reduce duplication, and better serve these individuals.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    I appreciate the author's thoughtful approach to examining this issue carefully before moving forward.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    This affects many in my district as well who've come forward. And, you know, they don't like to be reminded that they're gonna never be able to walk or be able to not have to use the services. So I'm proud to be part of this and respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Heather Steagall

    Person

    Good afternoon. My name is Heather Steagall, and I am the Executive Director of Disability Resources Agency for Independent Living, also known as DRAIL. DRAIL is the designated independent living center to that serves six counties, Amador, Calaveras, Mariposa, Tuolumne, San Joaquin, and Stanislaus. DRAIL is proud to sponsor AB 1925. Every day, we work with individuals with disabilities who rely on multiple programs just to meet their basic needs, health care, housing, in home support, and transportation.

  • Heather Steagall

    Person

    But one of the biggest barriers that they face is not their disability. It's the system. Right now, there is no single way for someone to verify a permanent disability across programs, so people are forced to prove the same lifelong condition over and over again. That means repeated paperwork, repeated doctor's visits, and repeated delays. We see individuals lose services not because they no longer are eligible, but because of missed deadlines, inconsistent requirements, or paperwork errors.

  • Heather Steagall

    Person

    This creates unnecessary stress for individuals, families, providers, and agencies alike. AB 1925 takes a thoughtful and responsible step forward. It does not create a new system overnight. Instead, it requires a feasibility study to carefully evaluate what it would take to build a statewide permanent disability certification process. This includes looking at privacy protections, fraud prevention, and how a system could work across existing state and federal programs.

  • Heather Steagall

    Person

    It also ensures that stakeholders like independent living centers and disability led organizations are part of the conversation. This bill is about reducing duplication, improving efficiency, and most importantly, ensuring that people with disabilities can access and maintain the services that they need without unnecessary barriers. Thank you.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    Good afternoon, members. My name is Ted Jackson. I'm the CEO of the Marin Center for Independent Living and the public policy board, the public policy board chair of California Foundation for Independent Living Centers. And I'm proud to offer support from MCIL as well as CFILC today. The Marin Center for Independent Living is a unique ILC.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    We are also a parent center. I think the only one like that in the country. In addition to that, we have a robust program in CalAIM and we're the largest provider of veterans directed care in the entire state. So while we started with one county, we actually serve people with disabilities in the majority of Northern California.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    Because of all of those programs, we are probably the one organization in the disability community that reaches into every little nook and cranny of the subsectors of the disability community.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    And with that, we see a lot of recertifications. We see folks coming into our office who need to recertify the people that we serve, no matter what the disability is, from intellectual to physical. We have memory loss issues. We have issues of poverty and people not having access to computers or getting mail on a regular basis to receive the reminders. A 101 different reasons that people come into their to the office and needing help with these many recertifications.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    But the other thing that I wanna draw your attention to is actually emergency preparedness and community resilience. One of the things that we have to do often is in helping people with disabilities when there are fires and there are disasters in California is to relocate them. After the LA fires, we were the center in the North that became a hub for relocating disabled people who could no longer live in that quality of air. And we still are working on that and still are doing that.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    So that type of movement requires another certification.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    Having a statewide certification for a certain number of years, permanent disability that would travel with you without throughout the state, is really imperative for the sustainability of in inclusion and community integration for people with disabilities. In almost every emergency and disaster in the state, people with disabilities and older adults with access and functional needs are relocated, and I ask for your support.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Are there any members of, in of the public in the room that want to testify in support? State your name and position, please.

  • Dan Okenfuss

    Person

    Good afternoon. Dan Okenfuss with the California Foundation for Independent Living Centers here in support.

  • Diana Gonzalez

    Person

    Good afternoon. Diana Gonzalez with Manos Home Care here in support.

  • Julie Sherman

    Person

    Hi there. Julie Sherman, The Arc of California, Director of Public Policy in high support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Is that everyone for support? Has everyone for support? Now do we have any witnesses in opposition to the bill? Please come forward.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Any members of the public wishing to testify in opposition to the bill? Please come forward. Seeing now, bring it back to the dais for questions and comments. But before we do that, let's establish quorum since we now have quorum. Madame Secretary, please call the roll for quorum.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I'm closing. Here.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Lee?

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Members, any questions, comments, motions? Second. Those are probably moving second. I come I'm I'm out for a couple minutes, and then suddenly you have another witness.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Where this guy I come from? Where did you hire this guy from?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    This is public safety. I apologize. Alright. Well, I really want to thank you for bringing this bill forward and for some of the Alanis for also joining us today. I am recommending an aye vote for this bill, and I also wanna thank our Vice Chair for taking over.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Madam Secretary, please call the roll for AB0, sorry. I'm going to, I wanna let you close, but I will be recommending an aye vote.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mister Chair. Members, as I stated, this is personal to me. Everything that I talked about in here has happened in my house. So it's not like I'm reading from, if you will, a script and it's far away. This is something that's happening in my house.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So if it's happening in my house, it's happening in houses across LA, San Francisco, San Diego, everywhere in between. And we need a voice. We need a unified voice that talks about how we take care of those that are most vulnerable in the most vulnerable communities. So members, as a parent of a son with severe disabilities, My wife, Christine, and I have seen firsthand how families must repeatedly navigate complicated systems just to maintain access to essential services.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    She's a superhero in my eyes because she has to do it every day.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    When a disability is permanent, families should not have to continually prove the same condition again and again just to receive the support they depend on. AB1925 takes a thoughtful first step by asking an important question. How can we build a smarter, more coordinated system that respects people's time, protects their privacy, and ensures continuity of services? This bill is about reducing unnecessary barriers and making government systems work better for the people they are meant to serve.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    For families like mine and for the millions of Californians living with permanent disabilities, myself and my joint author respectfully ask for your aye vote on AB1925.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you very much. I'm recommending I vote. Madam secretary, please call the roll on this bill.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item four, AB1925. The motion is do passed to the Assembly Appropriations Committee. [Roll call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    For dessert, that bill's out. We'll leave the roll open for ASSA members. Thank you. Alright. Do we have any other author members here?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Stephanie Nguyen is here. So similar to Stephanie Nguyen, when you're ready, you may come up to the desk. And Assembly Rowan has three bills. So which one do you want to start with?

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Two. Right? One's on consent.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    You have three bills and one is consent, but yeah. You can start with whichever you want.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    I'm gonna do 2189, I believe.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I'm gonna go first.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    So we'll start with file item 11 AB 2189.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Thank you, mister chair and members. Thank you for allowing me to present AB 2189. I would like to begin by accepting the committee's amendments and thanking the committee staff for really working with us on this bill. AB 2189 authorizes the State Council on Developmental Disabilities to award a $800,000 annual grant over three years to support a statewide effort to train and connect parents of students with disabilities.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    This effort will provide families with tools, training, and coordination they need to understand their rights and advocate within California's special education system.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Recent federal actions have significantly reduced the capacity of the US Department of Education to oversee the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, I d e a, IDEA. As a result, states are increasingly responsible for ensuring compliance, protecting the rights of students with disabilities. This leaves our most vulnerable students and their families bearing the short end of the stick with the Federal Government reducing their enforcement of IDEA, the responsibility to protect and ensure the rights of California's 800,000 special education students fall on us.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Today, special education makes up around 15% of California's public school population and members. I'd like to remind you all that these numbers are only growing over years and years.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    It continues to grow. AB 2189 provides a practical solution to this gap. Over the span of three years, this bill would lay the groundwork for the creation of a statewide special education parent action network. The organization receiving the grant would be tasked with conducting outreach training and bringing leaders together to inform students in special ed and their families about their rights and how they can advocate for themselves.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    AB 2189 is an effort to strengthen coordination and uplift the parents' voice when it comes to special education.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    And with me to speak in support of the bill is Jordan Lindsay, executive director of the ARC California, and Christine Caslow, a powerful advocate and mother of a student in special education.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    And two Manish, please.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    Thank you, mister chair and members, and thank you very much to our champion, the author, Assemblymember Nguyen, for bringing this bill forward and for the incredible analysis that this committee staff has done on this bill. I'm Jordan Lindsay, executive director for the Arc of California statewide movement started seventy five years ago by parents with children with developmental disabilities who had the audacity to believe that their children deserved the same opportunities as every other child.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    Over the last seventy five years, we've seen the continuation of the disability rights movement with federal laws such as the ADA or state laws such as the Lanterman Act. This includes laws and rights for our students with disabilities. The ARC was a driving force in the passage of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, IDEA, in 1975, which required schools to educate all students with disabilities.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    Many of these advancements, however, are under attack. Section five zero four of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, a US civil rights law prohibiting disability, is currently under attack in the courts. The Arc is fighting against nine states that are trying to invalidate section five zero four. Similarly, the Federal Office of dismantled, and an audit found that 90% of complaints in the last few months are going, dismissed that are going to that office by parents. What does all this mean?

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    It means that oversight and enforcement of IDEA and other critical rights for our students with disabilities is going to be more and more reliant on the states and statewide stakeholders. Now when we talk about stakeholders in special education, there are several, many of which are in this room and we've heard of today heard from today.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    And nearly all of them, many stakeholders in special ed are very well organized at the state level and can provide input to the legislature, whether that's the teachers or school administrators or the self buzz. The most important voice in our opinion, however, the voice of the students and parents is usually not at that table.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    So AB 2189 would provide funding to the State Council on Developmental Disabilities to administer a grant to ensure that the parent voice in California can be heard at the state level, at the federal level, can be organized and heard.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    The grant would create the infrastructure for a co for a coalition of all stakeholders in California's special education system, a collaborative, not combative coalition with the aim of unifying around systemic advocacy. The grant would not duplicate or try to replace this is important. It would not duplicate or try to replace activities that are already happening around the state, such as direct parent training and parent leadership training, but instead would bring together those local and regional community leaders to align on statewide systems change.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    We've had great conversations with many of the stakeholders regarding the goal of the bill. We have received constructive feedback on clarifying the bill, and we appreciate the amendments that have been proposed by the committee. Thank you very much.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you. Our next witness, please.

  • Christine Caslow

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair Lee and members of the committee. My name is Christine Caslow, and I have been a special education volunteer advocate for sixteen years in Santa Clara County. But more importantly, I am the parent of two children who have had special education services. Currently have an eighth grader. I am here to support AB 2189.

  • Christine Caslow

    Person

    While our local family resource centers, mine is called Parents Helping Parents, does incredible work helping parents advocate for their individual child. As parents lack a statewide structure to advocate for systemic policy change. As legislators, when you hear about special education from parents, chances are you hear from a parent like me with the time and resources to learn how this system works despite the lack of a statewide special education parent and student advocacy organization. You don't necessarily hear from parents working three jobs, the non English speaking parents, or parents managing very intense medical needs.

  • Christine Caslow

    Person

    The network that AB 2189 would create would allow local organizations like the family resource centers, like PTAs, like other advocacy groups to work together to get those voices heard by our legislators at the state level. I'm a union member, a member of SEIU twenty one sorry, twenty fifteen as I am my son's in home support services worker.

  • Christine Caslow

    Person

    As a union member, I hear from them about local actions, actions with other branches of SEIU, and actions of many unions working together. In the labor in the labor movement, local chapters unite to create a powerful collective voice. This is the kind of network we want to build with AB 2189, a network where local groups doing important work can work together to create bigger action and let more voices be heard by legislators. AB 2189 is the bridge we need.

  • Christine Caslow

    Person

    It will unite existing groups like PTAs, family resource centers, and other local organizations into a powerful network able to elevate the voices of families and students affected by special education.

  • Christine Caslow

    Person

    To ensure legislators hear directly from families and students living these experiences, I respectfully ask for your aye vote on AB 2189. Thank you for your time and your leadership.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, and thank you for serving my our home county, Santa Clara County. Alright. Do we have any members of the public who wish to testify and support a bill? Please come to the microphone. Your name and organization, please.

  • Diana Gonzalez

    Person

    Good afternoon. Diana Gonzales, public policy and advocacy manager at Manos Home Care here in support of AB 2189. AB 2189.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Good afternoon. Emlyn Shabbard with California Disability Services Association in support.

  • Tony Anderson

    Person

    Tony Anderson, the Association of Regional Center Agencies in support.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Jane Chen, board certified pediatrician for thirty one years and a parent of a child with special needs, in support.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Julie Sherman, director of public policy for The Arc and United Cerebral Palsy California Collaborative, in support.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Jennifer Womack Olivera. I'm on the CAC with Sac City Unified School District. I'm also my area's LCAP representative, and I have two children's in special education. And I also am an SEIU twenty fifteen union member, so and I'm in support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Now do we have witnesses in opposition to the bill? Please come forward to the desk if there are witnesses in opposition.

  • Ted Jackson

    Person

    Ted Jackson with Marin Center for Independent Living and Matrix Parents at MCIL. We have actually sent a letter in before, which was not on the late letters, but we have an opposed unless amended, and we have sent amendments to the author. If it is amended, we will switch our position.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Are there any other witnesses' opposition or any members of the public who should testify in opposition to the bill? Please come forward.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Janice Canavan, Family Voices of California. We're in opposed unless amended.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you.

  • Nancy Netherland

    Person

    Nancy Netherland, parent of a child with intellectual disabilities and complex medical needs and in opposition unless amended, also with little lobbyists.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. Any other members of the public who just wish to sign opposition to the bill? Alright. Seeing none, I'm gonna bring it back to the committee for any questions or comments on this bill, members.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Assemblywoman, would you like to close?

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Yes. I think I think you have.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Oh, there's a comment by somebody talking about. Go ahead.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you, mister chair. And and, you know, I I do appreciate the the author on this. And I understand one specifically how important, advocating for, those with special needs. It's something that I care about very deeply. And I would commit to you that on the personal end, my only worry with this bill is that it opens the door where the the language can be done in the future for a different group.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    That and we've seen that time and time again, where bills that are really good ideas also become what opens the next door. And when I see state resources and funds being used for advocacy, think a lot of people think that means lobbying the government, pushing things. And I think that's where, on my personal end, I commit to you wholeheartedly That I think whatever I need to do on my personal end.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    But when it comes to the state resources, my fear is that somebody else comes in and then they work on another bill in the future that says this. And this is the framework that opens that door.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And so, for me, I can't support this bill. I just wanted to make sure that you know, from my personal end, whatever you need me to do, I will do.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    I appreciate it.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I committed that to Assemblyman Jeff Gonzales.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I've committed that to Loretta's little micacles in my district. I've committed that to anybody and everybody that wants to see what we can do and work as hard as we can, but it's just the prioritize prioritization of state resources used for specific advocating that opens the door to things that aren't in the same boat as this. So thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Any other questions, comments, members? Alright. I'll invite the I'll invite the author to close.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    I think my Mister chair would is is it okay he speaks? Or do you want me to just

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    DO you have something in response to

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    Quickly, and is that okay? Yes. Yes. Very much appreciate that and the personal work that you have done. I I want to just note in a lot of our research around this, there certainly is precedent already for state funds being used for advocacy building and advocacy infrastructure development.

  • Jordan Lindsay

    Person

    Whether or not you believe that's wrong or right, that's right. Up that's fair game. But this doesn't set a precedent. Just want that to be clear. There's certainly many precedents or many situations and examples of that happening already.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Yeah. Yeah. And Assemblymember Tongkie, if I you know, thank you thank you for that. And you've been you're right. Like, I've had conversations with you on the side, and you really do care about this this community having two members in the legislator that speaks openly about it.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    And you've always opened up your heart to us and told us how much you care about this. I think for us, it's more than that. When we talk about state resources, this is the community that gets overlooked, that is forced to get cut. That is the one that never, has anybody that's advocating for them. So both assembly member Jeff Gonzales and I are using our experience and our lived experience to advocate to ensure that we let members of the legislator know about this.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Because if not us, then who will advocate for for this community? Right? But I Aye, you know, I appreciate you for, really, you know, support supporting this effort. I under I understand what you're I disagree, but I also understand. I I think that's why we're here.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Right? Like, we're here to advocate. And when we can use, the state to be able to provide voice to us resources for families that are more in need than most other families that are still trying to figure this out. This is where we can help them out in a very small way. Right?

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    We're not asking for millions and millions of dollars. We're asking for very little to be able to give them an opportunity to advocate and be the voice. You've heard of a a parent that's here. She's working. She's the person that supports her kiddo.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    She doesn't have the time to do this. And having this extra support and this this extra resource is going to help her so much more, and that's why we're doing this. I wanna also state, mister chair and members, that, some of these amendments came over really late, and so we're committed to working with them to figure out where the balance is so that we can continue to move this forward.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    But I will also say that everybody that was in opposition or sending amendments are for this community. I wanna see something happen and wanna make sure that they're supported and that their voices are heard.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    So we have this this overarching goal. We are all speaking the same language. You just gotta figure out where that that balance is. And with that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, Wen, for for bringing this bill forward. Should this bill get out should this bill get out today, it will go to the Assembly Education Committee where I know you'll continue to work with the stakeholders. I really appreciate you bringing this bill because, you know, it is a creating an advocacy network advocacy support for so many families that often, at best, are doing this on a volunteer basis in the limited amount of time that they have.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    And like you said, it's really supporting a network for just so that they can better amplify their needs to talk to people. It's not such an advocacy in a strict lobbying kind of sense, but also to build solidarity and like mindedness.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    And this occurs especially in the local level where you really need to have advocates and like minded folks like the parents of the parents, right, on the school district's level. So I really appreciate these efforts, and I'm recommending it high as amended. The bill was, moved by Assemblyman Castillo. Madam Secretary, please call the roll on this bill.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    We'll leave that roll open for absent members. Thank you. And now we'll proceed to the next bill. If AB2684. 84. File item 24. So you may begin when you're ready.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Okay. Of course. Yes. K. Mister Chair and members, thank you for allowing me to present AB2684.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    This bill aligns state law with federal law by giving non minor dependents, also known as NMDs, who are placed out of state the option to perform monthly visits with their social worker virtually. California is currently one of 26 states that has opted to provide continued support for foster youth transitioning into adulthood. This bill builds on California's commitment to continue supporting foster youth by giving NMTs the flexibility in how they conduct their monthly meetings.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    I wanna also state that in person meetings are one of those that are very important to me because it allows social workers to develop that relationship, the trust, and also giving them the opportunity to gauge the physical and emotional well-being. So we are not eliminating the in person meetings.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    We are just making it so that way it is a little bit easier when they're able to do the virtual meetings. This bill ensures that relationship between NMDs and the social workers maintained by requiring in person visits to happen at least once per quarter. And here to speak in support of the bill and answer any technical questions is Amanda Kirchner, director of legislative advocacy for County Welfare Directors Association of California.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Go ahead. Two minutes, please.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    Thank you. Good afternoon, Mister Chair and Members. Amanda Kirschner on behalf of CWGA. We are proud to sponsor AB2684, which will allow non married dependents who are living out of state to use virtual visitation with their social workers. We've had extended foster care since 2010 that allows 18-21 year olds remain in foster care.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    They get additional supports like housing and educational support, financial stipends, and independent living and life skills. As of January, there was about 6,700 NMDs in California. Most of them live in state, but about two to 300 live out of state. They live with their family. Some are attending college, and others are out of state for work.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    Our social workers try really hard to have a very collaborative relationship where they can support these young adults as they sort of navigate through this new chapter of their lives. But because of trauma and if their involvement in the foster care system, those relationships can sometimes be tricky. And when our social workers come for the monthly visits, it often feels like we are checking up on them and not checking in with them as young adults.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    And so we're hoping that with AB 20 June, this becomes really a youth led choice for them to be able to use virtual visitations, have a more collaborative approach, and so that they can take the lead in how they manage this relationship with their social workers. So it truly feels very cooperative and supporting.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    As noted, social workers will still schedule visits in person once a quarter or if there's ever any concern about the health or safety of the NMD living out of state. By making these changes, we hope the visits are more youth led. They incorporate technology they're familiar with on their own terms to help them develop a trusting and collaborative relationship with their social worker. We urge your support. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Now do we have any members of the public who wish to testify in support of this bill? Please come up to the microphone.

  • Libby Sanchez

    Person

    Good afternoon. Libby Sanchez on behalf of the Chief Probation Officers of California in support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Now do we have any witnesses in opposition to the bill? Any members of the public who wish to testify in opposition to the bill, please come up to the microphone. Seeing none, we'll bring it back to committee. Any questions, comments, motions?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Elhawary. Go ahead.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    I'm a foster mom to a young woman who actually went to school out of town. And just thinking about this opportunity for the youth led aspect and really allowing the young people themselves to make the choice and and really make those decisions is huge. So thank you for the work that you all are doing and to the author for, bringing this forward.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Any motions? Alright. Thank you. I'll invite the author to close.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you, mister Sharon. Thank you for sharing that you are a foster mom. I'm a foster mom before in passing. We've talked about this.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    And when this bill came to me, when I was a foster mom, I was more of a respite looking to foster adopt. And so I took in little babies, and we would have to do visitation. And when I did the visitation, I would once in a while see some transitional age youth, so youth that were getting into adulthood that would have to do these visitation. And you can tell how upset they are that they had to be there.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    You can tell that they didn't wanna be there.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    Just their body language and the look on their face, it already sets this negative tone in their mind. Right? And what we wanna do with these, young people is that we wanna build on that relationship. And sometimes it does taking that virtual, like, hi, how are you doing? Just checking in.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    And then the next time it gets a little bit more to some point where you develop this relationship that you wanna come and see them in person and you become friends. And that's the way you deal with young people who are growing into adulthood because they've got hormones. They've got all these things that are going on with them, and so we wanna meet them where we're at.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    And so when this opportunity came to me as a former foster mom, I thought this is definitely something that we need to do. This is something that we need to get caught.

  • Stephanie Nguyen

    Legislator

    And I absolutely thought about you as assembly member, Elhard, because I remember you talking about being a foster mom as well, and I knew that this was something that you would see, have the experience, and know that this is something we need. So with that, respectfully ask for your arrival. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Well, thank you so much for bringing this bill forward. This bill was moved by Assemblymember [Unintellligible], seconded by Assemblymember Tangipa. This bill enjoys an aye recommendation for me. Madam Sec, Madam Secretary, please call the roll on AB2684.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item 24, AB 2684. The motion is do passed to the Assembly Judiciary Committee. [Roll call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    That bills out. Congratulations. Alright. I see Assemblymember Zibur is here. And if he is ready to present file item number six, AB1967, he may come up when he's ready.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Yeah. Whenever you're ready, you may begin.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mister Chair, members. I'm proud today to present AB 1967, which will promote better outcomes for older youth experiencing homelessness and instability. Children and young adults often experience homelessness for reasons that are distinct from the adult population. Their episodes of homelessness may follow significant family instability or exits from institutional settings such as juvenile, the juvenile justice system.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    In other cases, youth may be left, may have left the child welfare system through adoption or guardianship, often to find themselves in a situation that's unsupportive or even unsafe.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Youth who leave those situations can become homeless or exploited within weeks. Disproportionately LGBTQ plus and people of color, these youths are extremely vulnerable, and yet current law is leaving them behind. Youth who are unhoused and living in a youth shelter or group home are often unable to enter the child welfare system through self petition.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    When these youth self petition, the county often only investigates the shelter or group home they are temporarily living in and considers them to be in a stable situation. This assessment ignores the reality of the youth situation and the circumstances that they may be left behind when they become unhoused.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    For unhoused youth who need the support of the child welfare system, this bill ensures that county social workers review the circumstances in the home of the youth, not just the youth shelter or group home they may be temporarily living in when determining if they need to enter the child welfare system. This gives them a more accurate picture of the instability a youth may be experiencing and why they need services.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    This bill also ensures that these youth can petition the court if the assigned county social worker does not respond to their self petition and gives the court discretion to open a juvenile dependency case. For youth who left the adoptive home, this bill eliminates barriers so that they can enter extended foster care when their guardian or adoptive parent is no longer providing support but is still receiving financial benefits on their behalf.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Reentry into foster care allows a youth to regain access to housing, case management, behavioral health services, and education supports that prevent homelessness and long term harm.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Older youth deserve a safe path into foster care when abuse or neglect occurs, whether they're entering for the first time on their own petition or returning because of an adopted parent is no longer supporting them. AB 1967 continues the work I started in this space several years ago and ensures that older youth have access to the support that they need. I ask for your aye vote at the appropriate time.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And with me today, in support of the bill are Zachariah Oquenda, senior policy attorney with the Alliance for Children's Rights, and Deannie Choiselat, membership and policy coordinator with the California Coalition for Youth, both cosponsors of the bill.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Two minutes each, please.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    Thank you. Good afternoon, chair and members. I'm Deannie Choiselat, membership and public policy coordinator with the California Coalition for Youth. Our members support young people with other options. They've been kicked out of their homes or left abusive families, and state law requires that unaccompanied youth who seek services from youth homelessness prevention centers, YHPC, can only stay at these programs up for ninety days.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    YHPT staff, our mandated reporters, note that when youth disclose abuse or unsafe home environments, the resulting reports often do not trigger immediate child welfare investigations because the youth is temporarily safe within the program. A responsive self petition process helps that.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    It gives older youth a confidential trauma informed way to ask for help when they're in danger. These young people are fully capable of explaining what's happening to them, and the legislation still ensures that every petition triggers professional assessment and judicial oversight.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    I'd like to share a story of a young person who came to the attention of one of our members. Matt was living on the streets in San Francisco after years of years of abuse by his father. Matt's father threw him out of the house after he came out at age 16.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    After several months on the streets, Matt found respite in a local youth shelter following several dangerous encounters. Staff and, staff at the shelter connected Matt to legal aid advocates who assisted Matt in filing a petition under California's welfare and institutions code 329 to enter foster care alleging maltreatment.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    Despite his self petition to enter foster care to find the stability and support he needed, Matt's self petition did not result in the county child welfare agency opening a juvenile dependency case.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    The county welfare agency did not, sorry, advocates believe that Matt was residing in the youth shelter, and the county welfare agency did not recommend opening a juvenile justice case because he was not facing an urgent safety risk.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    Because California law allows youth to stay in youth homelessness prevention centers for up to ninety consecutive days, the stability of a youth shelter can put in jeopardy the long term supports and services that Matt and young people in similar circumstances need to stabilize in the short term and thrive in the long term. He struggled to identify stability and safe and affordable housing. Matt was not able to find long term housing situation.

  • Deannie Choiselat

    Person

    His relatives all rejected his request. His legal aid advocates lost contact with him after he left the youth shelter. AB 1967 will help ensure timely and responsive attention to Matt and other young people's self petitions. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Zachariah Oquenda

    Person

    I'm Zachariah Okenda, senior policy attorney with the Alliance for Children's Rights. We serve youth who experience poverty, abuse, or neglect, which can include youth and adoptive families. Adoption is not always the permanent safety net we hope it to be. When an adoptive placement breaks down, a young person can lose their housing overnight.

  • Zachariah Oquenda

    Person

    And under current law, a youth can be locked out of extended foster care entirely if they're unable to successfully reenter before turning 18. This worst case scenario, which we see too often, can happen when an adoptive parent is still collecting adoption assistant payments even while providing no support to the youth.

  • Zachariah Oquenda

    Person

    We saw this with a client, Zara, a young woman who was adopted out of foster care and later kicked out of her adoptive home at 17. She was forced to drop out of community college and work full time just to survive. The system had no foster care reentry pathway for her.

  • Zachariah Oquenda

    Person

    No more should the provision of AAP payments or any other financial assistance be a barrier to the youth like Zara to reenter foster care. AB 1967 would have helped Zara. Despite her failed adoption by allowing Zara to reenter into foster care under a voluntary reentry agreement that triggers the suspension of those payments.

  • Zachariah Oquenda

    Person

    This refocuses the support where it should be on the youth and their needs. I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Now do we have members of the public who wish to testify in support of the bill? Please come up to the microphone at this time.

  • Nicole Morales

    Person

    Nicole Morales on behalf of Children Now in support.

  • Craig Pulsipher

    Person

    Craig Pulsipher on behalf of Equality California in support.

  • Tiffany Phan

    Person

    Good afternoon. Tiffany Phan on behalf of California Court Appointed Special Advocate Association in support. Thank you.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    Simone Tureck Lee with John Burton Advocates for Youth in support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Now do we have any witnesses in opposition to the bill? Please come forward. Any members of the public who wish to testify in opposition to the bill, please come up to the microphone. Seeing none, I'm gonna bring back to committee for any questions or comments from committee members. Alright.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Seeing no questions, I'll let the author close.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    You know, one of the things that causes me to sort of focus on foster youth is the fact that, you know, they are youth that we, as the state of California, are responsible for.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And so, you know, when the systems aren't working for them, we need to make sure that we're stepping forward and making sure that these kids are being cared for and whether, you know, they have, been adopted and come into an adopted home.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    It's still, it's still our responsibility when that's not working for us to sort of step in and make sure that the system cares for them. And so, I just wanna thank the sponsors of the bill for working with our office and respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you for bringing this bill forward, and thank you for your attention to, to these young people who are unfortunately out there. We definitely need flexibility, especially because of some of the stories you shared.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    LGBTQ, they're overrepresented in homelessness and people are experiencing a lot of hardships, especially among young people. So I think this is an important bill. I'm recommending an aye vote today, and this bill was moved by Assembly Member Solache and seconded by Assembly Member Elhawary

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    So all the LGBTQ members on here. So, madam secretary, please call the roll on a on this bill. AB 9667.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item six, AB 1967. The motion is do pass to the Assembly Appropriations Committee. [ROLL CALL]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    That bill is out. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Are there any other noncommittee of authors present? If not, I believe Assembly Elhawary is ready to present a bill.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    You're doing file number 9, 2126. Correct?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. File number 9, 2126.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Yes, sir.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Hi. Thanks for your patience.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Good afternoon, mister chair and members. First, I'd like to thank the committee and staff for all of your work on the bill, and I will be accepting committee amendments. AB 2126 removes unnecessary hiring barriers for peer partners in our child welfare system. People who bring lived experience and are uniquely positioned to support others navigating those same systems. A peer partner is someone who has navigated one or more public systems of care and now uses their lived experience to support others facing similar challenges.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    They play an important role in child welfare, behavioral health, and juvenile justice systems. Research shows that peers improve engagement, strengthen stability, and support outcomes like reunification and staying in school. However, many individuals who apply for positions at community care licensed facilities are unable to secure employment because their criminal records trigger a lengthy exemption review process. This delay especially affects former foster youth, many of whom have nonviolent offenses tied to trauma or instability during adolescence. This exemption review process can take up to twelve months.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    As many of these individuals cannot wait that long for employment, the delay leads to a loss of qualified peer workers. Accordingly, AB 2126 creates a targeted automatic background check exemption for peer applicants who are current or former foster youth and whose offenses occurred before age 21. Violent and child related felonies are still excluded from this exemption, and all existing fingerprint based checks remain in place to ensure safety.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    This change allows agencies to hire peer partners more quickly and enables individuals with lived experience to contribute to the workforce while maintaining safety protections. Joining me today is Annie Thomas, policy advocate with the California Alliance of Child and Family Services, and Santos Flores Castro, a former foster youth and peer partner.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Two minutes each, please.

  • Annie Thomas

    Person

    Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair Lee and members. Annie Thomas on behalf of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services, proud cosponsor of AB 2126. The California Alliance represents over 200 organizations, including many licensed providers such as short term residential therapeutic programs, foster family agencies, and other programs that serve foster youth in the child welfare system.

  • Annie Thomas

    Person

    Our members recognize the value of hiring peers with lived experience because they see every day the trust, connection, and credibility those peers bring to youth engagement and support.

  • Annie Thomas

    Person

    Too often, the very young people best positioned to support foster youth are blocked from employment because of a youth age offenses tied to trauma, instability, and system involvement. Under current law, if the offense is not on the state's list of disqualifying crimes, the Department of Social Services already has the authority to grant an exemption. The problem is that that process takes seven to twelve months, and most applicants can't wait that long for a job.

  • Annie Thomas

    Person

    These delays not only cause agencies to lose qualified candidates, it also discourages agencies to hire peers in the first place. Current former foster youth are uniquely appropriate for these roles because they know the system from the inside.

  • Annie Thomas

    Person

    They understand what it means to navigate placements, court hearings, case plans, and the instability that so many young people face. That lived experience helps build trust, improve engagement, and help youth advocates youth advocate for themselves from a place of firsthand understanding. This bill removes that barrier. It doesn't change the law for serious nonexemptible crimes, and it maintains the same background checks and safety standards already required under current law. It's safety standards already required under current law.

  • Annie Thomas

    Person

    It simply ensures that for current and former foster youth seeking to work in a peer support capacity, already exemptable offenses committed before age 21 do not trigger a long discretionary delay that keeps them out of the workforce. This bill recognizes lived experience as an asset, not a liability, and helps ensure that foster youth are supported by people who truly understand their experience. For these reasons, we respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Next witness, please.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Yes. Good afternoon, Chair Lee, members, and everyone present. My name is Santo, and I am a former foster youth. And I'm here to speak on behalf of the importance of this bill, AB 2126. Removing barriers for former foster youth as Annie spoke and the author, to to some may be just bureaucracy to some.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    But for former foster youth who have been let down by family, caretakers, society, who also carry trauma and the instability that has been spoken about, shuffle through systems, this can be a lifeline, a hope that cannot be truly measured. I wanna share briefly just my story to illustrate this. I didn't commit any crimes after I turned 18, and I am very grateful and blessed for that. I don't have that exact experience, but I was given a second chance while in foster care.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I ran away from the court ordered group home, Rancho San Antonio, had a warrant for my arrest.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Two months later, after reaching the end of all hope for my life, ready to die by gang violence, God saved my life. I had a deep desire to go back to Rancho and face all my trauma and pain. And sorry. Lost my train right there. I turned myself into Juvenile Hall, and Rancho set accepted me back.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    As a result of that return, hope was not only restored, but a life of service and devotion to helping others with birth. I became a youth peer, completed college, worked at the very boys home Rancho that saved my life, got a master's degree in social work. I'm a licensed therapist, and I have influenced thousands of people over my career at this point. I say all this just really for one reason.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    What if that lifeline of a job that a former foster youth is seeking and that barrier that AB 2126 solves was removed and hope was infused and they can work?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    What if that trajectory of that life is like mine, serving hundreds and even thousands, giving back, making a difference. And for this reason, I ask from my heart to yours for your a vote for AB 2126. Thank you so much.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Now do we have any members of the public who wish to testify in support of this bill? Please come up to the microphone.

  • Thomas Renfree

    Person

    Tom Renfree, on behalf of the California Association of Alcohol and Drug Program Executives, in support. Thank you.

  • Nicole Moroles

    Person

    Nicole Moroles, on behalf of Children Now, in support.

  • Yesenia Revancho

    Person

    Yesenia Revancho with End Child Poverty in California in strong support.

  • Nicole Wordelman

    Person

    Nicole Wordelman on behalf of the Children's Partnership, cosponsor in support.

  • Zachariah Okenda

    Person

    Zachariah Okenda with Alliance for Children's Rights, strong support.

  • Jonathan Munoz

    Person

    Jonathan Munoz, Children's Institute in strong support.

  • Alana Latticer

    Person

    Alana Latticer, with the American Nurses Association of California in support.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    Amanda Kirchner on behalf of County Welfare Directors Association. We're a cosponsor in support.

  • Sally Ching

    Person

    Sally Ching with the Alliance for Boys and Men of Color in strong support, also reading a me too on behalf of several other organizations, California School Based Health Alliance, Sister Warriors Freedom Coalition, Integral Community Solutions Institute, Integral excuse me.

  • Sally Ching

    Person

    Felony Murder Elimination Project, California Coalition for Youth, Los Angeles Trust for Children's Health, Communities United for Restorative Youth Justice, Cancel the Contract, National Health Law Center Law Program, Legal Services for Prisoners with Children, End Child Poverty California, Children's Defense Fund, the Collective for Liberatory Lawyering, Youth Leadership Institute, and Boys Republic. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Now are there any witnesses in opposition to the bill? Let's go forward. Any members of the public who wish to testify in opposition to the bill or members of the public wish to sign the opposition bill?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Seeing none, I'll bring back to committee for questions or comments or question or comment from Assemblymember Tangipa.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you. And I look forward to moving this bill forward today, and it's good to see you both. You know, I know we've worked together a lot recently. The one thing that I do want just for consideration for the future, you know, obviously, this is the exemption all the way up to crimes committed before 21 years old.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    If we can at least look into something potentially that says end crimes not committed within the last two years, because because I wanna make sure that we're not having a specific carve out.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Or somebody does something and then they're 20, then all of a sudden, you know, if there are it's just if there's just a general protection. So that way, we can make sure that if somebody wants to get better, if somebody wants to then go and and give that service again, you know, we're making sure that we have all of the protections in place.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    You know, when I I really thank you for sharing your story, and all of you have heard mine when I shared at the the event. But I understand what it means when you find hope and you find a chance. And sometimes that comes from somebody else with lived experience.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    So as long as we can have those safeguards in place, so that way we can make sure that we're benefiting those who are looking for some help. So just- just as a consideration, and look forward to moving this forward today. And then I- I will be looking for that in the future. Thank you.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Thank you. We'll definitely consider that. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Any other questions, comments? Assemblymember Castillo?

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    I wanna thank the author for this bill, and I wanna thank you for your testimony. I'm a dual licensed therapist, and I'm gonna be honest. I was gonna oppose your bill. As someone who worked for the county of Riverside Department of Mental Health, I worked with peer support specialists and, yeah, although it says not caregiver roles, my concern was peer support specialist in the role doing the work that I do without a license, you know, that was my concern

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Which, yeah, they're still dealing with people who are very vulnerable, and that was where my concern was. After hearing your testimony, I'm gonna vote to support your bill. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Any other questions or comments? See, this is why it's important to have our witnesses come to Sacramento. So I appreciate your open mindedness. Yes.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. I will invite the author to close.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. I thank you for working with committee staff on this bill. Foster youth peer support allows for unique support to foster youth and ultimately leads to better outcomes. The bill reduces barriers for the specific population to work with in a peer capacity, and I am recommending aye as amended.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    And this bill was moved by Assemblymember Solache and seconded by- seconded by anyone? By Tangipa. Assemblymember Tangipa.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Madam Secretary, please call the roll on AB 2126.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item nine, AB 2126. The motion is do pass as amended to the Assembly Public Safety Committee. [roll call].

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Thank you so much.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Next, we're gonna go to Assemblymember Solache for file item 16, AB 2379.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    No rush. Whenever you're ready.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Great. Yes. Whenever you're ready. Go ahead.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mister Chair, Members, for the opportunity to present AB2379, protecting family, childcare providers constitutional rights. I'm grateful to you and the committee for, your hard work and thoughtful analysis on this bill. Child care homes are essential to California's childcare system, especially for working class immigrant families. AB through twenty three seventy nine insurance license and licensed exempt family child care providers are informed of their constitutional rights when confronted by immigration enforcement.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    The bill requires the Department of Social Services to notify providers of the Fourth Amendment protections and to coordinate accessible multilingual training.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    The training will ensure providers understand the rights regarding searches, seizures, arrests, and detentions in their homes. By educating providers of their constitutional rights, the bill helps keep childcare door doors open and safe for from intimidation, misinformation, and unlawful searches or arrests by law enforcement, including federal immigration authorities. AB 2379 bills on existing sensitive location protections by ensuring family childcare providers have the information and tools they need to protect themselves.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    The children, their their on the care in their care and the families they serve. This bill is co sponsored by the childcare providers United, SEIU California, United Domestic Workers, ASPE Local thirty nine ninety.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    With me today, childcare providers, Vicky Ramirez and Charlotte Neal.

  • Charlotte Neal

    Person

    Good afternoon, Madam Chair and Members. My name is Charlotte Neal, and I am a 24 childcare provider here in Sacramento. I am here today to support AB2379. Providers like me have been first know firsthand how child care facilities have become targets for aggressive immigration enforcement activities. We know that agencies like ICE prey upon people's ignorance of their rights in order for people to unwittingly cooperate with their own victimization.

  • Charlotte Neal

    Person

    I have to say that again. To cooperate with their own victimization. We know knowledge is power, and that is why it is essential that AB2379 be adopted. We must have mandated trading that informs us of our fourth amendment rights against unwarranted searches, seizures, and unlawful entries into in order to protect the children in our care, the families who rely on our services, our employees, and ourselves.

  • Charlotte Neal

    Person

    AB23 will ensure that providers are already prepared, informed, and ready to assess our constitutional rights.

  • Charlotte Neal

    Person

    If ICE comes to our doorstep, we must know how to respond and how to stay safe. We are proud to partner with Assemblyman Solange to assure that state broadens its trainings, offerings for our providers with a focus on the safety and well-being of us, our families, communities that we serve. Thank you very much.

  • Elvira Ramirez

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair and Committee Members. My name is Elvira Ramirez, and I am a childcare provider in San Jose. And I am a proud member of childcare provider, SEIU Local 521. And I am also a certified Know Your Rights facilitator with our childcare providers united training fund. I have cared for many children, including kids with immigrant families, and I have seen firsthand the trauma, fear, and cause.

  • Elvira Ramirez

    Person

    One of those families recently experienced this as the father was detained by ICE for two

  • Elvira Ramirez

    Person

    months. His his young son went from being happy and carefree to anxious, living an uncertainly, while his mother had no had no one to turn to but me. Providers are often placed in this, uncertain situation, which we were never trained for. That is where my role as a certified facilitator matters. To know your rights training, I am able to teach providers about the four amendment protections and how to respond safely while protecting their homes, their business, and children in their care.

  • Elvira Ramirez

    Person

    I have seen providers to go from fear to confidence, from not from knowing not knowing what to say to being able to respond calmly and clearly, and from feeling alone to feeling prepared. Right now, this training is not reaching everyone because access depends on location, language, and opportunity, which means our childcare system is relying on chance. That is not acceptable. AB 2379 changes that by ensuring every provider statewide is prepared by receiving consistent know your rights training in multiple languages.

  • Elvira Ramirez

    Person

    So when a moment crisis happen, providers have the tools and preparation to face it.

  • Elvira Ramirez

    Person

    If providers are prepared, children are safer, families have peace on mind, and communities are stronger. As a provider, I have lived it. Now as a facilitator, I am able to help fellow providers and their families to serve. That is why I respectfully urge you support the AB 2379 so that together, we can educate entire communities. And I can tell you firsthand that this cannot wait.

  • Elvira Ramirez

    Person

    Thank you so much.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    And we have Edgar Guerra. We'll just be here to answer any technical questions from SAU California. Great. Thank you. Now do we have any witnesses in support of the bill? Any or any members of the public who wish to sign in support of the bill, please to the microphone.

  • Yesenia Rabancho

    Person

    Hi. Yesenia Rabancho with End Child Poverty in California in strong support. Thank you.

  • Lucy Carter

    Person

    Lucy Salcedo Carter with the Alameda County Office of Education in support.

  • Aliyah Griffin

    Person

    Aliyah Griffin with the American Federation of State County Municipal Employees in support.

  • Kathy Austin

    Person

    Kathy Van Austin on behalf of the American Association of University of Women of California in support.

  • Stephanie Orozco

    Person

    Stephanie Orozco on behalf of First Five LA in strong support.

  • Yajaira Gonzalez

    Person

    Yajaira Gonzalez with First Five California in strong support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Now do we have any witnesses in opposition to the bill? Please come forward. Any witnesses in opposition?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Any of the members of the public who should once testify in the opposition to the bill, please come forward to the microphone. Seeing none, we'll bring it back to the committee for any questions or commentary on this bill or any motions. You have a commentary or questions? Okay. Go forward.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    So, typically, for me, I I never have an issue with trying to inform the public when it comes to their own constitutional rights. I think everybody should be aware. Heck, I even think that members of the legislature should have lessons on the second amendment, maybe the first amendment as well. But, you know, when it comes to the positioning of DSS or DDA or yeah.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    DSS, you know, I think that this is something that the constitution is made legible so and easily so people can actually access it.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And, you know, when I'm looking at what's going on right now, the this is I don't believe it's the purpose of DSS to work on this. And that's where when it comes to the education on the constitution, I think, one, there's a lot of information out there. It's readily available. And, you know, for that, I'm just laying off. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Are there any other questions or comments or motions, members, this bill? If not, I will invite the author to oh, somebody called around? Yes. Go for it.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    Hi. Can you hear me? Hi. I just wanna thank you for bringing this bill forward. I know I walked in late, but I think it's a good bill.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    And I'd love to be added as coauthor, please. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. I'll invite the author to close.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Sure. Thank you to chair, committee members. Thank you for those comments today. I think it's a very, simple and to the point, we're trying to hit today. We're trying to ensure that our providers know their rights.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    In my district where I probably represent, eight communities, my community continues to live in fear of what if what what happens. And so I think one of the things that that I'm I'm proud to have carried this bill to ensure that our childcare providers who are taking care of our children statewide are gonna have the opportunity to ensure that they're educated and and and and informed of what the rights are. Nothing new. We're not creating anything new.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    We're just informing them and ensuring that they have the best tools to protect not only themselves, the child carers, and ultimately the children that they're caring for.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    So I'm proud of our our child care providers today that offer testimony, of course, to our our our labor partners at SA California ensuring that we are always advocates for our our communities. And I think this is the right direction to just keep informing community members of of their rights and in a time of kind of of living a a little bit of of fear in this situation. So thank you, and I ask for your it's okay for your your eye support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you so much. Assemblymember, I really appreciate you bringing this bill forward and building upon the momentum we've had in the recent years. It is an unfortunate reality that our childcare centers are essentially under threat from mass deportation rates, and I do think it is important that our childcare providers do are educated more on the constitution and the constitutional rights, especially it's something as critical as the Fourth Amendment.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    I would say that eighteenth century English is not actually the most successful thing, especially for immigrant families and especially for and I really think all of our, childcare providers themselves are coming all the way up to Sacramento, especially since you're doing twenty four hour care.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    You're taking a couple hours to come up here is really important as well. I do think it is very important because, especially speaking for people of color and immigrants, you know, it it do come from other regimes that you have to cooperate with the government. Right? But in America, you have constitutional rights, so this might not be the norm for people. And I think it is so important, especially when you're protecting our children, especially as we've seen the Federal Government also use children as bait.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    So I think it's very important that we can do such important step as educating people about the Fourth Amendment right, which is a very crucial part of the bill rights. I also would love to be had as a co-author. I also believe in this bill very much. I'm reckoning an aye vote on this bill. If we could get a motion and a second for this bill.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Move the bill. Second.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    The bills are probably moved and seconded by Assemblymember Calderon and Assemblymember Elhawary. Madam Secretary, please call the roll on AB 2379.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item 16 AB 2379. The motion is do passed to the Assembly Judiciary Committee. [Roll call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    That bill is out. We'll leave the roll open for absent members. Alright. Do I see any author members here? If not, we'll go to Assemblymember Calderon to do AB 2299 item 14.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    And then after that, if we have a lull, we will just we'll take up motions on all the bills we didn't previously have quorum on. But we're also looking for authors. So if your staff and you're watching this and you have a committee bill, we're still looking for many authors. Alright. Whenever you're ready, Assembly Calderon, you may begin.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. Thank you, Mister Chair and Members. In July 2025, president Trump signed HR 1, which made the largest cuts to the supplemental nutrition assistance program, also known as SNAP, and CalFresh in California history. HR 1 cut food assistance for millions of families and shifted costs from the Federal Government to the state. One of these cuts was an expansion of time limits on food benefits.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    As a result, beginning in June 2026, nearly 700,000 Californians will lose federal food assistance simply because they cannot prove they meet the work or community engagement reporting rules. After June 1, anyone receiving CalFresh who is not exempt can only receive CalFresh benefits for three months within a three year period unless they can demonstrate they are working a minimum of twenty hours a week every month. Through HR 1, the Federal Government cruelly limited exemptions from these time limits.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    So now people who are once exempt will be cut off from food benefits if they can't find work or fail to report their hours, including veterans, former foster youth, older adults age 55 to 64, people with dependent children older than 13, and people experiencing homelessness. Limiting access to food is just wrong.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    If we do nothing, the California Department of Social Services estimates that 665,000 Californians will lose indispensable food assistance. AB 2299, the California Anti Hunger Response and Employment Training Act, will provide a safety net for Californians who lose their CalFresh benefits until they are able to become eligible for CalFresh benefits again. I'd like to thank the chair and the committee for working with me on this critical bill.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    With with me here to testify in support is Keely O'Brien from the Western Center on Law and Poverty and Koy Saeteurn from the Coalition of California Welfare Rights.

  • Koy Saeteurn

    Person

    Hi, Chair and committees. Koy Saeturn with the- Legislative Advocate with the Coalition of California Welfare Rights Organization. I'm the daughter of an refugee family, US military allies in the secret war in Laos. We came to this country carrying the weight of a war this government helped start, and we built our lives here the best that we could. I'm a first generation American born in Fresno, a UC Santa Cruz graduate, a CalFresh recipient.

  • Koy Saeteurn

    Person

    The system was built first with someone like me in mind, and it's still hard. Fourteen days ago, humanitarian immigrants, refugees, asylees, survivors of trafficking began losing their CalFresh. People who came here the same way my family did to flee persecution, violence, and torture. They haven't all lost their benefits yet. They'll lose them one by one at recertification without a bridge waiting for them.

  • Koy Saeteurn

    Person

    AB 2299 is that bridge. It has to pass before the wave fully lands. My community came here carrying trauma most had never had the chance to treat. A published study in the American Journal of Psychiatry found that ninety percent of the inpatients showed PTSD, even among those who made it to a clinic. These are people already below baseline.

  • Koy Saeteurn

    Person

    When you're carrying that kind of weight, losing food doesn't arrive as a separate problem. It really accelerates everything. A 2023 JAMA study found that SNAP access is directly associated with reduced suicide risk. The ripple effects land in emergency rooms and hospitals and child welfare cases. Thirty six percent of the people who have begun losing their benefits right now are children.

  • Koy Saeteurn

    Person

    While food banks are a vital source, they cannot fill the gap that HR 1 is causing. For every one meal that the food bank provides, CalFresh delivers nine. Public benefits gave my family room to breathe. The Californians who have already begun to lose their benefits and the hundreds of thousands who will lose theirs in the coming months deserve that same room. This bill is cheaper than what happens without it.

  • Koy Saeteurn

    Person

    So being hungry never supports stability, and I truly believe that we should support policies like AB 2299 to help us many vulnerable Californians receive basic human needs in order to thrive. I urge you to support AB 2299.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    Good afternoon, chair and members. Keely O'Brien with the Western Center on Law and Poverty. Two weeks ago, as Koy said, 72,000 humanitarian immigrants in California, including refugees, asylees, and survivors of trafficking, started having their food benefits stripped away. In June, nearly 700,000 more Californians will follow as time limits are implemented. If we do nothing, time limits alone are expected to cause 4,000 avoidable deaths in California among older adults and parents with children by 2040.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    And these cuts are built on a lie that hungry people must be starved into working harder. The research is unambiguous. Work requirements do not increase employment. Every rigorous study shows the same result. People don't find more work.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    They just lose food. The maximum CalFresh benefit is $10 a day. Nobody is avoiding work for $10 a day. These are people who are already working in jobs with low pay, unpredictable hours, and no margin for error. AB 2299 empowers California to fight back against this cruel policy.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    This bill and the associated budget request would make California the first state in the nation to build a food system that's capable of providing everyone losing access to CalFresh with, excuse me, everyone losing access to SNAP due to discriminatory federal rules. And it builds on work that we've already committed to. The planned expansion of the California food assistance program to undocumented older adults in 2027. AB22- AB 2299 adds to that plan and makes CFAP an even more powerful tool against discrimination and hunger.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    The return on investing in food security is extraordinary.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    Higher employment, stable families, reduced health care costs, better educational outcomes, and so much more. And if we don't fight back, people will suffer and thousands of people will die. When we strip food access, those costs land in our Medicaid budget, our ERs, and our child welfare system, as Koy said. And HR 1 didn't cut food benefits because we ran out of money at the Federal Government. The 1.5 trillion dollars they cut from food and health benefits, that funded 1.5 trillion dollars in tax breaks for the ultra wealthy.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    So the best way for California to fight back against HR 1, against all of its cuts to food, to MediCal, to our communities, is to reverse it, claw back those tax breaks where we can, and restore what was taken from our people.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    We're lucky to be in the most beautiful and prosperous state in this country, and AB 2299 is our chance to make that prosperity a reality for everyone, not just the ultra wealthy, but the hundreds of thousands of people, the veterans, the seniors, the families, the refugees who built our state and who are now being abandoned by the Federal Government. I urge you to vote aye on AB 2299. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Now do we have members of the public who wish to testify in support of the bill? Please come up to the microphone.

  • Yesenia Robancho

    Person

    Yesenia Robancho with End Child Poverty in California. This is an End Child Poverty Imagine priority, Also priority for the Dream Alliance Coalition, Stronger California Coalition, and adding in support the California Immigrant Policy Center and End Poverty in California, EPIC.

  • Dawn Koepke

    Person

    Thank you, mister chair and members. Dawn Koepke on behalf of the Child Abuse Prevention Center and California Family Resource Association, pleased to be in support.

  • Evan Fern

    Person

    Evan Fern with Disability Rights California in support.

  • Alejandro Solis

    Person

    Alejandro Solis on behalf of California Primary Care Association in support.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    Josh Wright with the California Association of Food Banks, proud cosponsors along with the Public Interest Law Project, also a Me Too for the California Food and Farm Network in support.

  • Mandy Diêc

    Person

    Mandy Diec with Southeast Asia Resource Action Center, also in support.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you. Now do we have any witnesses in opposition to the bill? Please come forward. Any members of the public who should testify in opposition to the bill, please come forward. Alright.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Seeing none, we'll bring it back to committee. Assemblymember Solache.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Thank you, Chair. I wanna thank, again, the author as well for bringing this bill to forward to us. I know our Chair earlier this year was also speaking about how do we improve and work on the SNAP program and food and food insecurity issues. I have a bill in the space, so just wanna thank the author for this.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    This is an important conversation to have and to, obviously, the witnesses today. I also would like to add myself as a coauthor and the importance of moving this conversation forward and looking forward to in- celebrate when the governor signs it. Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Any other questions or comments, members? Seeing none, I'll invite the author to close.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    Yes. I just respectfully ask for an aye vote at the appropriate time.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. I, again, also wanna reiterate how important this work is. Food security is so critical right now. We I've seen time to time even in other states that work requirements are a smooth conservative talking point, but it is a smooth way to actually kick people off of services who actually desperately need it.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    So I would also like to be added as a coauthor to this bill, and I will be recommending an aye, an aye recommendation for this bill. Can I get a second for this bill? Can I get a second for the there you go? Alright. The bills have been moved and seconded by Assemblymember Solache and Assemblymemeber Elhawary.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Madam Secretary, please call the roll on this bill.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item 14, AB 2299. The motion is do passed to the Assembly Appropriations Committee. Lee?

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Lee, aye. Castillo? Calderon? Calderon, aye. Elhawary?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Elhawary, aye. Jackson? Solache? Solache, aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Tangipa?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    That bill is out. Congratulations. Thank you. Alright, members. Let's run through some of the bills we only heard as a subcommittee so we can bring motions to them.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Madame Secretary, should we do them one at a time? Should we go through them? Alright. Let's start with the consent calendar.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Can I get a motion in a second for the consent calendar? Second. Alright. Consent calendars are moved and seconded.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Four to zero. That bill is out. I'm going to present actually my bill first because I our witness, I understand, has to leave urgently. So I'm gonna present the bill. Assemblymember Castillo, can you take over?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Yeah. Alright. Thank you, Madam Vice Chair and members. I'm presenting AB 2213, which reconstitutes the California Healthy Food Financing Initiative. First, I'm accepting the amendments, including analysis, which are very thoughtful and very thorough, starting at page eight.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    CalFresh currently serves 5,500,000 people, and it is proven to be 1 of the most effective programs in tackling food insecurity. If it wasn't for safety net programs like CalFresh, an additional 2,600,000 people would be living in poverty.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    But with the passage of HR1 and its unprecedented cuts and draconian eligibility restrictions, every CalFresh family is expected to be negatively impacted. Amid devastating federal cuts, the California Healthy Food Financing Initiative will build much needed state reserves to maintain investments in food aid.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    The bill will create a council represented by the State Treasury, the Department of Food and Agriculture, social services, as well as labor and workforce development to implement initiative and develop financing options. The initiative will prioritize funding to organizations that serve communities and food deserts along with the food cooperatives and independent grocery stores, among others.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Funding sources may include new market tax credits, federal and foundation grant programs, as well as financing from private financial institutions. It is estimated that roughly a quarter of California families experience food insecurity. More and more families are struggling to afford their groceries. Over the last five years, grocery prices have surged by almost 30%.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    The Federal Government's trade war is causing problems to rapidly increase and hurts local farmers. Without safety net programs, roughly 2,600,000 more Californians would be in poverty. The bill creates another tool for California to preserve our efforts to combat food insecurity and invest in all of our communities. With me today in support is Arnold Sowell with NextGen California.

  • Arnie Sowell

    Person

    Good afternoon, madam chair and members. My name is Arnie Sowell, and I am the executive director of NextGen California. NextGen is a nonprofit organization that focuses on economic climate, environmental food, and racial and social justice. I'm here today in strong support of AB 2213, the California Healthy Food Financing Initiative. First, I wanna thank Assembly Member Lee for bringing this bill forward.

  • Arnie Sowell

    Person

    It's extremely timely. It's comprehensive. And the, and the legislation aims to improve healthy food access, eliminate food deserts, better link state the state agricultural sector with regional food systems and combat food insecurity. Secondly, I just wanna say that this bill has a personal aspect to me. And that is that fifteen years ago, I was the policy director for speaker John Perez.

  • Arnie Sowell

    Person

    And Speaker Perez is the author of the original California Healthy Foods Financing initiative. And, later in the, the testimony, Mayor Cames, was one of my colleagues in the speaker's office who actually worked on the original, in the original bill. That being said, the reason why this bill is coming forward is because there's still more work to be done. The problems of food access, food deserts, and food insecurity still persist in our state.

  • Arnie Sowell

    Person

    And as a matter of fact, despite California's agricultural abundance, an estimated 3,000,000 Californians live in communities without reliable access to fresh, affordable, and healthy food.

  • Arnie Sowell

    Person

    In these regions of our state, often, food offerings at, convenience stores as well as, food offerings at, fast food restaurants, are what constitutes the opportunities for folks to access access food because full service grocery stores are much too far away. And this adds to the financial strain for families as well as it increases the incidence of diet related disease. It is well documented that these disparities are not evenly distributed.

  • Arnie Sowell

    Person

    Low income communities, rural and tribal communities, and communities of color are far more often to lack full service grocery stores. And as Assembly Member Lee indicated, at the same time all this is happening, the CalFresh program is being devastated by federal actions, and an estimated five point five million Californians could result in, and, and lose, are on CalFresh and could, could lose their benefits.

  • Arnie Sowell

    Person

    AB 2213 is a a necessary legislative solution, to meet the moment we're facing. By reviving the California Healthy Food Financing Initiative, this bill creates a coordinated cross agency approach to expand food access, build out our food systems, and invest in resources in underserved communities, leveraging federal, state, philanthropic, and private funding, develop a more sustainable strategy for eliminating food deserts and tackling the issue of food insecurity. I respectfully ask that the committee move this bill forward with an aye vote.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any members in the hearing room of the public in the hearing room that are in support? Please state your name and your position.

  • Yesenia Robancho

    Person

    Yes. Yesenia Robancho with End Child Poverty in California in strong support.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Kelly Mac Millan

    Person

    Hello. Kelly Mac Millan on behalf of the American Academy of Pediatrics California in support.

  • Russell Manning

    Person

    Russell Manning on behalf of California State Treasurer, Fiona Ma, in support.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    Josh Wright on behalf of the California Association of Food Banks in support.

  • Mary Kames

    Person

    Mary Kames on behalf of the Office of Kat Taylor in strong support.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any primary witnesses in opposition? Oh. I was like, you tricked us there.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room in opposition? None? Okay. I'm gonna bring it back to the committee.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Thank you, Vice Chair. Again, as mentioned earlier in in Miss Calderon's bill, Mister Lee and I spoke earlier at one point about this, this priority, and I also wanna coauthor this bill.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I think it's imperative that we prioritize these dollars and and the SNAP program and to ensuring that, you know, folks don't go without food. So with that, thank you to the author for, for this bill. Thank you. And with that, I'd like to move it.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. I wanna thank the author for the bill, and I wanna thank your witness here for your testimony. Thank you so much. And I'm gonna ask you to close.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you so much, Madam Vice chair. This bill is a great foray into what I think resolving a big paradox in the state. California is the breadbasket of the nation, if not the world. The trade war, of course, made things so difficult on the world stage, but, yeah, we have such a strong agricultural economy.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    We saw people literally work in the fields or miles in the fields who go hungry, who starve. And it is really important that we access our powerful economic might as well as our state resources to really connect people to fresh food that has grown in California. And so with that, I respectfully ask your aye vote.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. The bill was motioned by Solache, second by Jackson. Madam secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item 12, AB 2213. The motion is do pass as amended to the Assembly Appropriations Committee. [ROLL CALL]

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Six to zero. That bill is out.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    We are gonna move to file item, 14, AB 2230. Avila Farias. Careful there. And thank you, Assembly Member. Please present your bill.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Chair and members. ICE enforcement has created fears across California impacting both citizens and immigrants alike. AB 2230 protects two critical spaces, voting rights and centers and childcare center facilities.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    This bill prohibits immigration enforcement from entering or surrounding area locations ensuring people can vote and that children can learn without fear. California is home to 10,000,000 immigrants, many of whom are US citizens and are eligible voters.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    At a time when there is a growing concern about intimidation at the polls and aggressive enforcement tactics, we must act to protect fundamental rights and community safety. No parent should fear losing their child to enforcement actions, and no voter should be intimidated from participating in our democracy. AB 2230 ensures that these spaces remain safe, free, and fear free, and from intimidation. I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Thank you. Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room in support? Do we have any primary witnesses in opposition? Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room to testify in opposition? State your name and your position.

  • David Bullock

    Person

    David Bullock in opposition. I'm with the SFP Alliance. Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. And I'll bring it back to the committee. Any questions from the committee? Comments?

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    I just wanna thank the author for bringing this bill forward.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    And I just wanna echo that. I think in this time where we're really, seeing our community struggling and, for those of us who have seen that firsthand with our, community members who, are immigrants, ensuring that they feel safe, that our community members feel safe, whether they're an immigrant themselves or related to someone, especially looking at the child care facilities and polling places. It matters. So thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    You can close.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    Chair and members, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Okay. The bill was motioned by Calderon, seconded by Elhawary. Madam secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item 13, AB 2230. The motion is do pass to the Assembly Elections Committee. [ROLL CALL]

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Four to zero, that bill is out.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    We are moving to file item 10 AB 2162 by Assembly Member Brian. You can present your bill, please.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam chair and colleagues. I'm proud to present AB 2162, which would build on California's progress in preventing and reducing homelessness for former foster youth by making targeted improvements to the housing navigation and maintenance program, also known as the HNMP. The HNMP is a state run program that operates to the California Department of Housing and counties to provide services to youth with federal housing vouchers.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    Former foster youth receive federal vouchers from the US Department of Housing until they're 24 years old, and these vouchers remain valid for up to five years after receiving them. The problem is that our HNMP program only assists youth from ages 18 through 24 in navigation.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    This means that if a youth who has a valid housing voucher from the Federal Government turns 25 years old, they cannot access the services of the program to help them find housing even though that voucher is good for up to five years after they receive it, and they could receive it at 24 years old. As you can see, there's a gap here. The Federal Government is stepping up and providing vouchers, and we are providing navigation, but not for as long as you can use the voucher.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    We need to correct this imbalance. Joining me to testify in support of AB 2162 are Mercedes Jackson, a youth advocate with the John Burton Advocates for Youth, and Simone Tureck Lee, a senior director for pro of programs and policy also at JBAY.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    Thank you, Assembly member. Good afternoon, chair and members. My name is Simone Tureck Lee. I'm with John Burton Advocates for Youth in support of AB 2162. Thank you for authoring this bill.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    AB 2162 strengthens an existing program, a proven state program that prevents homelessness among former foster youth, the housing navigation and maintenance program as the Assembly Member pointed out.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    This program provides supportive services that counties need to pair with federal housing choice vouchers for former foster youth. Because of this state investment, we've seen a 137% increase in federal vouchers coming into California for this population specifically.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    With a $13,700,000 investment in the housing navigation and maintenance program, we're unlocking more than $33,000,000 in federal housing assistance each year for former foster youth. And this is uniquely a federal program that remains safe with all of the proposed cuts and changes happening at the federal at the federal level.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    These vouchers are powerful, but really only work when paired with these services to help youth find and secure housing and maintain stability. County's provider contract for that support, and the housing authorities provide the rental subsidy that lasts for three to five years. Right now, there's a gap. As you heard, youth can receive that voucher any time between 18 and 24. And so if they get it toward that 20 birthday, that takes them into their mid to late twenties.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    AB 2162 simply closes that gap by extending this program, the housing navigation and maintenance program, to age 28 to ensure that young people have consistent support like education, employment, and crisis double stabilization, for the full life of their federal voucher.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    This bill also brings much needed transparency. Currently, there's no public data showing which counties and housing authorities are participating in the federal voucher program or how many vouchers there are in California.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    AB 2162 requires this information to be reported as part of the reporting requirements for the housing navigation and maintenance program for the counties that accept that funding so that we can better understand at a community level where the federal resources are, whether they're being maximized or not being maximized, and so that we can advocate at the local level for full participation in this program for our counties and housing authorities.

  • Simone Lee

    Person

    Now I'd like to turn it over to my colleague, Mercedes, to talk a little bit more about the importance of the bill.

  • Mercedes Jackson

    Person

    Hi. Good afternoon, Chair and members. My name is Mercedes, and I support AB 2162. I'm speaking as someone with lived experience and as someone who can use to work closely with young people through the Los Angeles Youth Commission. What I've seen again and again is that age cutoffs don't match real life.

  • Mercedes Jackson

    Person

    For former foster youth, support doesn't suddenly stop being needed at 24. In many cases, that is exactly when the pressure becomes more serious. People are trying to hold together housing, work, school, transportation, mental health, and basic survival all at the same time without the safety net that many other young adults have who are not in the foster care system. Sometimes young people do not hear about these resources early enough. Some find out too late.

  • Mercedes Jackson

    Person

    Some are already in crisis by the time they learn that help exists. And when services cut off too early, that could push youth closer to homelessness, disconnection, and instability. That is why AB 2162 matters. If a young person is able to keep a federal housing voucher after turning 25, the supportive services tied to stability shouldn't cut off at their 25th birthday either. Housing stability is not just about rent.

  • Mercedes Jackson

    Person

    It's also about navigation, deposits, employment support, education support, case management, and having someone to call when things start falling apart. The second reason this bill matters is accountability. We need clear public information about which counties are partnering with housing authorities to offer these vouchers and how many are in circulation in our communities and statewide.

  • Mercedes Jackson

    Person

    With that, gaps stay hidden, and youth pay the price. AB 2162 is a practical bill. It closes a harmful gap, strengthens support during a critical transition into adulthood, and it prevents homelessness before it starts. I respectfully ask for your a vote, your aye vote. Sorry.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room in support? Please state your name, organization, and position.

  • Yesenia Robancho

    Person

    Yesenia Robancho with End Child Poverty in California in support.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Nicole Moroles

    Person

    Nicole Moroles on behalf of Children Now in support.

  • Daisy Madrigal

    Person

    Daisy Madrigal from Lutheran Social Services, and I am in support.

  • Marie Cooper

    Person

    Marie Cooper from Waking the Village, and I'm in support.

  • Zachariah Oquenda

    Person

    Zachariah Oquenda, Alliance for Children's Rights in support.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any primary witnesses in opposition? Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room in opposition? I'm gonna bring it back to the committee.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Yeah. Move the bill.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Second.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Yes.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    I want to thank the author for bringing this bill forward. We got elected at the same time during COVID, which was a really, really difficult time. But every year, you introduce bills to help foster youth in and around this space. And I know you have a deeply personal story, but I really appreciate that you don't forget where you came from. You don't forget the people that need to help most.

  • Lisa Calderon

    Legislator

    And so I just wanna thank you for bringing this forward.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Assembly Member, I wanna thank you for continuing to ensure that this legislature remembers its responsibility to the children that's within this care and want to always appreciate the the annual bills that you bring forth to making sure that the state of California is holding up to that commitment. I just ask that your staff just keep in contact with mine once the bill is scored because I'm very interested in the bill. Sir.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    And I especially wanna thank your witness for sharing your lived experience, for telling us both about what you've gone through, but also for advocating on behalf of so many other foster youth and your experience on the LA Youth Commission too.

  • Mercedes Jackson

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    And I wanna thank the author for the bill. In the short time I've been here, you've always championed legislation for foster youth. You know, as someone who worked for county mental health and I worked with foster youth, I really do appreciate the legislation you push forward to help those that are in need. I'm gonna read the comments here from Assembly Member Lee, the chairman.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    This is a common sense change to a program that has proven results in helping former foster youth navigate barriers to securing housing, and he's recommending an aye vote. I'm recommending an aye vote. Thank you.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    Absolutely. The.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    And I'm gonna, I invite you to close.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you to to my colleague from Whittier. It's interesting. Nobody else on this committee actually knows, but when I got here, you were Chair of this committee. And serving on this committee was the first committee hearing I ever served on as a legislator several years ago on this committee, and it means a lot to come before before all of you and and fight for these bills.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    This is a common sense bill. The Federal Government, even under this administration, is continuing to provide housing vouchers for foster youth up until they are 24 and then can then be used for another four years. If the state is providing and counties are providing pure navigation or or supportive navigation to use these vouchers effectively, it should last as long as the voucher lasts. To me, that's good governance. That's responsible.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    I, I would like to believe that is bipartisan, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. We have a motion from Calderon, second from Jackson. Madam secretary, please call the roll.

  • Daisy Madrigal

    Person

    File item 10, AB 2162. The motion is do pass to the Assembly Appropriations Committee. [ROLL CALL]

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Six to zero. That bill is out.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    And we are gonna move to file item 19, AB2478. Assemblymember Schultz, can you present your bill?

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Well, thank you very much, Madam Vice Chair and

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    colleagues. Privilege to be here to present AB2478 today. Just wanna give a special thank you and acknowledgment not only to committee staff, but also to our joint author and most importantly my roommate, mister Solange, who's here on the committee. Nice to see you. This bill, quite simply, will strengthen California's commitment to keeping children with their families and extended kin whenever possible.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    California has embraced a kin first culture, meaning that the state strongly prioritizes keeping a child placed with a family member or a trusted adult who can better assure that a child stays connected to their communities and their cultures. The state recognizes that kinship care includes both relatives and non relative extended family members who are safe adult caregivers that a child has a preexisting familial relationship with.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Now research consistently and strongly shows that children placed with family caregivers experience better outcomes, including greater placement stability, higher likelihood of enrolling in higher education or gaining employment by age 21, and improved mental and behavioral health. Now currently in the state of California, all foster care applicants must go through one unified application called the Resource Family Approval Process or the RFA for short, regardless of whether or not they are kin with the child they're applying to care for.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    The RFA was largely designed for licensing foster parents in traditional foster homes and does not fully reflect the needs of kin caregivers who step up amidst the family crisis.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    This standardized process can create unnecessary administrative barriers and undue delay for these Kin applicants, sometimes preventing children from being placed with Kin altogether. Recognizing these issues, the legislature passed AB2830 by speaker Rivas in 2024, calling on the Department of Social Services to adopt a simplified approval process for relatives to become foster caregivers. AB 2478 follows through on this requirement. It would create the Kinship family approval pathway or KFA for short, a streamlined approval process specifically for Kin caregivers.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    This pathway would reduce these regulatory barriers and irrelevant requirements to maximize efficient kinship placement.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    The bill would also include non related extended family members and tribally approved foster homes in the definition of Kin in line with established best practices. AB 2478 also removes barriers to Kinship placement by number one, clarifying that courts may authorize placement with safe Kin caregivers while approval processes are still pending, provided that the court has found they pose no risk to the child.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Number two, extending a limited and preexisting, criminal records exemption process to non related extended family members and tribally approved foster homes. And number three, enabling agencies to be eligible to claim, title four e federal dollars. By reducing these administrative delays and strengthening family first placement policies, AB 2478 helps to ensure that children entering foster care can thrive, and they can remain connected to the people and communities that matter most to them.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    In closing, madam vice chair, I'd like to note that I am committed to continuing to work with all of our sponsors, the Department of Social Services, and tribal advocates to continue fine tuning some of the technical language of the bill. I at the appropriate time, we'll respectfully ask for an aye vote. And with me to testify in support today is Amanda Kirchner with the County Welfare Directors Association of California and Ann Kork with the Children's Law Center of California.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    Good afternoon, Mem- Chair, and Members. Amanda Kirchner with CWDA. I wanna thank the author for his leadership on this issue. I wanna thank committee staff for their excellent analysis. When a child enters foster care, it is a moment of crisis for that family.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    And as noted with traditional resource families, they do all that work upfront to get trained and approved, but families have to do that after the moment of crisis when the child is being removed. Statewide, about one third of our children are placed with family members.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    Counties have worked diligently to over the last few years to increase placements with relatives, including partnering with the Center for Excellence and Family Finding on best practices, participating in CDSS' kinship navigator sprints, and utilizing statewide funding to build out family finding efforts. But we know that there is more that we can do, and 82478 is our next step. This will help us streamline relative approval so that more children in foster care can be placed with their family members.

  • Amanda Kirchner

    Person

    We are worKing collaboratively with our cosponsors, stakeholders, and the Department of Social Services to ensure that this new Kinship specific approval has equitable funding for resource and resources as well as greater flexibility on requirements that do not impact child safety. CWDA is committed to moving forward a process that prioritizes Kin first culture because we know that children in foster care simply do better when they are placed with Kin and keep ties to their culture and to their community. We ask for your support. Thank you.

  • Ann Quirk

    Person

    I'm Ann Quirk, policy attorney with Children's Law Center of California. We are the attorneys for the children in the child welfare dependency system in Los Angeles, Sacramento, and Placer Counties. Being placed in foster care is often scary, confusing, and traumatic. We teach children about stranger danger, then a social worker shows up, takes them from their home, and places them in a stranger's house. Seven year old client of mine clarified this for me many years ago.

  • Ann Quirk

    Person

    She'd recently been placed into a foster home, and I asked her how she was doing. She told me, I don't feel safe. I know I'm supposed to, but I don't. They're very nice people, but I don't know them, and I don't feel safe. AB 2478 seeks to remedy this.

  • Ann Quirk

    Person

    It's a big bill with a simple purpose. When a child can't get home, get them with the people they know and love as quickly as possible so they can both be safe and feel safe. Sadly, I have many examples of why this bill is necessary, but I think Jeremiah's story is particularly illustrative. He changed his name and blurred some of the details for his privacy. He entered foster care as a young teenager along with his little half brother and half sister.

  • Ann Quirk

    Person

    They had the same mother with a diff with different fathers, but their father had been the one who raised Jeremiah, so he considered him dad. That father jumped right into reunification services and did everything that was asked of him, so Jeremiah's little brother and sister were able to be returned home quickly. Unfortunately, it wasn't the same for Jeremiah. The father had some criminal history from long ago. And because he'd never married Jeremiah's mother, there was no legal relationship between Jeremiah and his and the father.

  • Ann Quirk

    Person

    So Jeremiah couldn't be returned. It was very hard to explain why it was safe for his little brother and sister to go home, but not safe for him, the teenager. Because the issue wasn't about safety. It's just the law doesn't allow it. Jeremiah remained in foster care and ended up aging out.

  • Ann Quirk

    Person

    We were never able to find him permanency, which makes sense because he had a home. We just couldn't put him there. AB 2478 would change that, give us the legal tools we need to get the current Jeremiah's home. We thank you for your support and respectfully request your aye vote.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any members of the public in the hearing room in support? Please state your name and your position.

  • Zechariah Okanda

    Person

    Zechariah Okenda, Alliance for Children's Rights. We're a sponsor in support of the bill.

  • Tiffany Phan

    Person

    Good afternoon. Tiffany Phan on behalf of California Court Appointed Special Advocate Association in support. Thank you.

  • David Bullock

    Person

    David Bullock of the SFV Alliance with great respect to the author and support.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Do we have any witnesses in opposition? Do we have any members in the hearing room in opposition? And I'll bring it back to the committee. Is there any questions from the committee members?

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Go ahead.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Vice Chair. And, again, thank you to the author. I'm proud to work with him on this. I think it's and to to get the wins and sharing those stories. As a local former mayor myself and council member of my city, I got to work with so many families and so many caring families that, you know, that you hear all the stories.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I think there's no I need to reread all the stories that we all know and we all have lived experiences. I think this is the right thing to do when we can unify families and, you know, and give these, children a safe haven. I think that's it's the goal of all of us to do that. So I think maybe we could do that. I'm looking forward to support this and just happy that we're moving this forward.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    And and and like you said, it's just changing something in the law that's gonna help, advocate and and make this a a safer area for our support kids. So with that, I'd like to move the the bill. Thank you.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    I I also wanted to just really thank you for sharing, Jeremiah, although you changed his name, story. It was it's just so powerful to be able to bring, those stories into the room, especially when they can't be here themselves, but to really illustrate, like, what it means when we're not able to place someone with a family member for these, you know, legislative barriers that have really made it harder for young people like him to thrive with their own family.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    I shared earlier, but I'm a foster mom too. But I'm actually a foster mom because I'm a nephron, like, a non extended family relative family member, whatever it is, because my foster daughter was my mentee. And it was because of that that they were able to easily make it happen, but there are so many barriers to even doing that.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    And so thank you for really advocating on behalf of those young people who deserve, an opportunity to stay with folks that they're familiar with.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    I wanna thank the author for the bill. I get emotional because hearing it, I think of all the foster youth that I worked with with a lot of stories like that. I don't want there to be any more Jeremiahs. So I thank you for the bill.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    And I if you're looking for co authors, I would like to co-author.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I'd be honored.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Second.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    We have a motion from Solace and a second from Jackson. Madam secretary, please call the room. Oh, I'm sorry. Can you close?

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I'll be very brief. I respectfully ask for an eye, and all I would say is in a really tough year, I know we all don't agree on everything, and sometimes we have to

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    go to battle, and it's a tough budget year. But in my entire legislative package, I really view this as a bright spot and a potential to come together and do some real good for kids. So and just I'll say thank you to the witnesses for being here. You really you you told the story better than

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    So thank you.

  • David Bullock

    Person

    I could.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Secretary, please call the room.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item 19AB2478. The motion is do passed to the Assembly Judiciary Committee. [Roll call]

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Six to zero, that bill is out.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Alright. We will do some vote ads, add ons to the role. So, Mavsik, whenever you're ready, you can begin.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Standby. We are still waiting for one more author to arrive. Alright, Seminarabanta. Whenever you're ready, you have a couple bills in front of us. So whichever you want to start with first.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Thank you. I will start with

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Just the one bill. Never mind. The other consent, we took care of it already.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Thank you. I was having a little bit of a moment there. I wanna thank you for your patience, committee and chair. I wanna start by thanking the chair and committee for working with my office on this, piece of legislation that is so important. AB 2600 is a recognition that no one facing consequences such as indefinite death detention without due process, deportation, or permanent family separation or exile should do so without an advocate by their side.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    You see, unlike in the criminal legal system, people facing deportation The United States do not have a right to a government appointed legal representation if they cannot afford it. As a result, most immigrants who cannot afford a lawyer must represent themselves in immigration proceedings.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    That means that the mom who was was picked up by ICE after dropping her daughter off at school, the farm worker picked up in an ICE raid, or the domestic violence survivor going in for the routine ICE check check-in but gets taken into custody by ICE has no right to a lawyer if they cannot afford one. As of February 2026, more than 93,000 people with pending deportation cases in California remain unrepresented.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Even though thousands of Californians are detained by ICE every year in for profit detention facilities in dangerous conditions, only thirty two percent of Californians detained by ICE and facing deportation do not have legal counsel to protect their rights or help them navigate complex legal proceedings.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    We need representation now more than ever. Since June of last year, more than 10,000 Californians have been arrested in raids and indiscriminate arrests across our state. Over 8,250 Californians were deported in the first nine months of 2025 alone, triple the pace of 2024, and over 6,400 remain in ICE custody as of February 2026. Additionally, six Californians have tragically died in ICE custody since September 2025. Legal representation saves lives, protects civil liberties, and keeps families together.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Studies show that represented immigrants are up to 10 times more likely to obtain lawful relief than unrepresented individuals. This is a due process issue. In California, people can lose their freedom, their family, their job, and home through immigration proceedings, which are civil administrative proceedings, yet there is no guaranteed right to an attorney. That is not consistent with the basic fairness and access to justice. AB 2,600 helps right this injustice.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    It creates a state program to provide legal representation to all Californians facing deportation proceedings. AB 2600 does so by establishing a framework that allows an administrator within CDSS to create a phase and plan for the implementation of the right to counsel and to effectively track implementation. The administrator will create the plan in collaboration with expert legal services providers from across the state and immigrant rights advocacy organizations to help ensure everyone has access to immigration legal proceedings.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    I wanna make one important point as we continue to discuss the difficult budget decisions we need to make in the in the coming months. Mass deportations threaten the state's economic vitality and workforce stability.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    A national 2024 report by the institution of taxation and economic policy highlighted that for every 1,000,000 undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8,900,000,000 in additional tax revenue. With AB 2600, we will help keep families together, keep our communities and economy stable, and protect the safety and rights of all Californians. With me to testify today in support of the bill are Gerson Navidad, immigrant defense defenders law center, and Arisel Garcia from the Vera Institute of Justice.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Two minutes each, please.

  • Gerson Navidad

    Person

    Good afternoon. My name is Gerson Navidad, and I'm here on behalf of Immigrant Defenders Law Center. ImmDef is the largest deportation legal defense organization in Southern California and a power con sponsor of AB 2600. At a time when escalating anti immigrant policies and persecution are deliberately targeting immigrant communities, AB 2,600 is an urgent and necessary response.

  • Gerson Navidad

    Person

    Access to counsel is more critical now than ever because for immigrants facing detention and deportation, legal representation can mean the difference between safety and separation, hope and despair, and some instances, the difference between life and death.

  • Gerson Navidad

    Person

    AB 2600 is the best tool we have to uphold due process for immigrants navigating one of the most complex legal systems in our country. I know this because I lived it. At 16 years old, I spent a month and a half in government custody after arriving in The United States seeking safety. I was a minor alone terrified and completely unfamiliar with how the legal system in this country worked. Like many immigrants, I arrived knowing only that I had to survive and reach safety.

  • Gerson Navidad

    Person

    During detention, I witnessed what no child should have to witness, families torn apart, medical neglect, and an environment designed to not welcome but to dehumanize. Today, children can remain in government custody for extraordinarily long periods, sometimes as long as one hundred and eighty eight days when enduring those in traumatic conditions and adults even longer.

  • Gerson Navidad

    Person

    Without access to counsel, immigrants are expected to defend themselves off in a law within a complex legal system at a time when policies and processes are explicitly designed to persecute them and undermine their civil and constitutional rights. That is not due process. That is not justice.

  • Gerson Navidad

    Person

    An attorney provides more than legal representation. They provide dignity in dehumanizing circumstances, including a clarity in moments of fear. Without my attorney, I saw no possibility of persevering. With representation, I had a fighting chance. Today, as a graduate of UC Berkeley, I aspire to become a lawyer myself because I know firsthand that representation changes lives and keeps families together.

  • Gerson Navidad

    Person

    AB 2600 is a complete way for California to match its values with action, to protect immigrant communities above fairness, and ensure that no one is forced to face attention at the petition alone. Thank you.

  • Arisel Garcia

    Person

    Good afternoon. My name is Arisel Garcia.

  • Arisel Garcia

    Person

    Sorry. Good afternoon. My name is Arisel Garcia. I am with the Vera Institute of Justice. We are a proud cosponsor and supporter of AB 2600, which would advance due process by establishing a right to counsel for all Californians facing removal, especially those in detention.

  • Arisel Garcia

    Person

    Like the assembly member mentioned, unlike in the criminal justice system, people in immigration proceedings do not have the right to counsel if they cannot afford to hire their an attorney, which leaves people thousands of people every year alone to navigate that our highly complex immigration system on their own against against a trained government lawyer. AB 2,600 will help bridge that gap by ensuring that immigrant Californians have the right to effective counsel, giving them the opportunity for a fair day in court.

  • Arisel Garcia

    Person

    This is especially important as escalating federal immigration enforcement actions have significantly increased demand for legal services. As of February 2026, over 4,800 people are currently in detention with over 1,500 of them remaining, unrepresented. The impact of the representation is life changing.

  • Arisel Garcia

    Person

    As the assembly member mentioned, detained immigrants with representation are up to 10 times and a half more likely to win their cases than those without counsel. And access to counsel means that these people can return to their families, continue to contribute to the workforce culture and economy. A state level legislative measure to secure and protect access to counsel is one of the most effective ways to ensure fairness and due process in this system.

  • Arisel Garcia

    Person

    This law does not change immigration law, but would simply ensure that Californians can navigate the immigration system and that people who have the right to remain in the country under existing laws are not deported simply because they cannot afford to hire an attorney. I urge you to support AB 2600. Thank you for good for your time and consideration.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Do we have members of the public in the hearing room to testify and to declare your support?

  • Mark Ecedra

    Person

    Good afternoon. Mark Ecedra on behalf of the county of Los Angeles in support. Thank you.

  • Phil Melendez

    Person

    Phil Melendez on behalf of the Immigrant Resource Legal Center in support.

  • Nicole Wordelman

    Person

    Nicole Wordelman on behalf of the Children's Partnership in support.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Policy coordinator with CARESN in support of the co sponsor.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Cameron Assiah with the California Immigrant Policy Center in strong support.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Also registered in support for end poverty in California, California domestic workers coalition, Friends Committee on Legislation, Goliath Foundation, Restoring Hope California, Madera Coalition for Community Justice, California Healthy Nail Salon collaborative, Peace Action, Vietnamese American Roundtable, Courage California, legal services for prisoners with children, also for Alliance for Boys and Men of Color, Bluestone Democratic Renewal Club, Empowering Women Impacted by Incarceration, Oakland Privacy, Silicon Valley Debug, the Latina Center, the Unzipped for Opportunity, Rubicon Programs, California Work and Family Coalition, Diversity and Health, Business for a Good San Diego, Lutheran Office of Public Policy, and Healthy Contra Costa.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Is that everyone in the room?

  • Monica Madrid

    Person

    No. Because I'm Monica Madrid with the Coalition for Humane and Human Rights Chirla in support.

  • Symphony Barbee

    Person

    Good afternoon. Symphony Barbee on behalf of the ACLU California Action in support.

  • Yesenia Robancho

    Person

    Yesenia Robancho with End Child Poverty in California in support.

  • Mandy Yi

    Person

    Mandy Yi with Southeast Asia Resource Action Center in strong support, also registering support for Asian Americans Advancing Justice Southern California.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    Keely O'Brien with the Western Center on Law and Poverty in strong support. Thank you.

  • Alexandra Morales

    Person

    Alexandra Morales with Immigrant Defenders Law Center, ImmDef, in strong support and also a proud cosponsor of the bill.

  • Alexandra Morales

    Person

    Also, noting support for, Immigrant Legal Defense, Services, Immigrant Rights and Education Network, Siren, Public Counsel, OASIS Legal Services, Alliance San Diego, East Bay Community Law Center, San Bernardino Community Service Center, Center for Gender and Refugee Studies California, La Raza Community Resource Center, Kids in Need of Defense, South Asian Network, Pomona Economic Opportunity Center, Social Justice Collaborative, Santa Barbara County Immigrant Legal Defense Center, World Relief Sacramento, San Diego Immigrant Rights Consortium, Acacia Center for Justice, The Children's Partnership, Communities United for Restorative Youth Justice, Jewish Family Services of San Diego, 805 UndocuFund, Indivisible California State Strong, Orange County Rapid Response Network, The California Coalition for Women's Prisoners, Orange County Justice Fund, New Light Wellness, and the Trans Latina Coalition.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Any cousins? Any?

  • McKenna Mestazo

    Person

    Good afternoon. McKenna Mestazo with Induction California and strong support.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Any opposition witnesses? Anyone in opposition from the public? Are you registered as a opposition witness?

  • Yesenia Robancho

    Person

    They didn't reach out to us.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Okay. Two minutes.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    Thank you. My name is Jody Jones. I am an ANgel family member. Brother was murdered in 2018 by an illegal alien. He was arrested, and I'm gonna tell you the story. He was arrested, and within twenty four hours of his release, he murdered my brother. He shot my brother eight times point blank range.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    This story's a little different because what happened was ICE had faxed Tulare County Sheriff's Department a detainer to hold him, and it wasn't recognized because they needed a federal warrant. And if anybody knows, I'm a law I was I'm twenty five year law enforcement veteran. I'm retired. You can't get a federal warrant in five or six hours. You just can't do it.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    Well, they released him. Within twenty four hours, he murdered my brother. He shot him eight times, emptied his weapon on him. I read this bill, and I what I don't understand is the representation for a violent criminal because because this one will actually represent people that's been convicted of murder or violent crime. Because I didn't see in the bill that it had nothing on that.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    There there was no line drawn. So somebody can literally, like, the the person that murdered my brother would have legal representation after he was convicted of murdering my brother. So and this is taxpayers' money. It's like me hiring a hitman to kill my brother because I'm essentially paying for it. So this is what I don't understand.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    I just don't understand it. And I don't understand because if this man was deported when he was in custody, my brother would still be alive. I hear a lot of things about ripping families apart. My family was ripped apart. That'll never never I will never get my brother back again.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    Ever, ever, never. He was my best friend. So I understand the the community that don't wanna get deported. I understand that. But by gosh, understand our view because we're victims too.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    We are victims too. We we matter. So when it comes to stuff like this and we're paying for somebody that's murdered somebody or a violent crime, I don't think that's right. And I'm in strong, strong opposition of this bill. Thank you for your time.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Is there anyone else in the room in opposition? Please come on up and state your opposition to the microphone here. Just your name, affiliation, and your position on the bill, please.

  • Grant Watson

    Person

    My name is Grant Watson, and I'm in opposition on this bill from Angel Families and California tax payers That would have to pay for the defense of these individuals. Thank you very much.

  • Frank Laningham

    Person

    Frank Van Laningham, vehement opposition. Rocky Paul Jones was like a brother to me as well. I lost him. And paying money to this is morally wrong.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Thank you. Seeing no other opposition, committee members, any questions or comments at this time? Assembly member Tangipa.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    So one, to the opposition witness I hear you. So I wanna ask a couple questions. Could you go into a little bit on the background of of the person who killed your brother? You stated that he was deported.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    This man was deported twice. He actually had federal custody. He was arrested on drug charges that would have been a felony, but because of, I believe, Prop 47, they were now misdemeanors. Because it was a misdemeanor that can hold him a certain amount of time. Well, this person was deported twice before, did federal time, and came back.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    And he had a long list of crimes. A long list. And you can't help but ask yourself, why couldn't ICE come in in a secure place and take this man out?

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And and thank you. In this question I ask to the author, So I have gone through this bill multiple times, and it doesn't seem like there is anything in the language of this bill that prevents the taxpayers from paying for people who had committed murder or other crimes.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Is it a is that an accurate description that there isn't language within this bill that actually would prevent us from paying for people that would you would have killed similar to the individual that killed this, the opposition witness's brother?

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    I would, remind, as you, assembly member Tangipa, first, I wanna, appreciate the witness for, your testimony and and the loss to your family and and your brother is irreplaceable. And I I and so I will just start by saying that. I will remind assembly member Tangipa that, due process in the state of California and in The United States according to our the constitution allows every individual to be able to have the right to counsel.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    This bill essentially applies that right to counsel to to people who are facing detention proceedings. And, specifically, this bill covers individuals who an individual who is not presented by counts represented by counsel and satisfies the indigency criteria set by the administrator and meets any of the following criteria.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Is a resident of California, detained in California, they are subject to immigration or deportation proceedings in an immigration court located in California, or the immigration proceedings must have a specific nexus to California regardless of whether the person is presently in immigration detention outside of California.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    But, Senator, I understand the right to due process. But the reason why you bring this bill here today is specifically paying for the legal services. And, again, that didn't answer my question. Could these paid legal services potentially pay to protect people who have been convicted of, well, drug dealing?

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Assembly member Tangipa I have laid out who is covered under this bill. And it does include people who, have who under whatever circumstance they might have been picked up and put into detention centers and are facing in detention proceedings.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    So somebody who had been picked up potentially for drug dealing, this would protect them?

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    I've responded to your question, assembly member.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And the the same thing for child predators?

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    I've responded to your question, assembly member.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Human traffickers? Murderers?

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Already responded. You can move on to the next question.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    So the main reason why I asked that is because there was a there's language out there on other bills that specifically talk about providing legal legal services to an individual who has been or actually, it would state the simple amendment would state, the section shall not be used to provide legal services to an individual who has been convicted of or who is currently appealing a conviction for a violent felony as defined in subdivision c of section six six seven point five.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    There are bills right now that we are hearing that make sure that taxpayer funds don't go to people who are currently appealing those types of convictions and have been convicted. That is not in your bill. And there are thousands of angel families out there, thousands of them. I've met personally some over the weekend.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    That even trying to say that amendment, is that even something that you would possibly consider for this bill?

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    The state of California, should that amendment be adopted, would be standing alone in provision of immigration removal defense, with the only state that would actually provide carve out that kind of carve out. There are 13 states throughout this country, California, Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Minnesota, Nevada, and Hawaii, who all provide immigration legal defense funding. And, and should that amendment be included, California would be the only state that has any kind of criminal carve out.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    So, no, I am not willing to accept that amendment.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Well, for me, those 13 states got it wrong because I don't believe taxpayer funds should go to people who have been convicted, illegal immigrants who have been convicted, drug dealers, murderers, child predators, rapists, the same individual that killed a man right here, this individual's brother. That is insanity. And and those 13 states got it wrong. And I think that that there are thousands of angel families out there, thousands of them that feel the exact same way. And I would ask the witness here.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    You probably know a lot of angel families out there.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    I know a lot of them. Like, everyone, basically. I wanna ask you a question. Can I may I ask a question?

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Unfortunately, you cannot. But you can answer any questions that any of them Alright. May ask you.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    Yeah. I know a lot of them.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And Do you know the story of, Lincoln Riley's family?

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    Yes. I know I know her mother very well.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Well, I don't understand why I'm hearing Moans and groans when I bring up blanket rights.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    So so here's the thing. The here's here's you're asking me about other Angel family members. I I'm gonna I'm gonna say this. I I hear due process all over the place. I I hear people saying that.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    What about our due process? What about my bro my brother's due process? He don't get any. He was shot and killed. Where's that due process?

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    Nothing. I hear about families being ripped apart. Our family was ripped apart, absolutely ripped apart. I will never see my brother again. I visit my brother at the graveyard every week.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    Once a week, I go there and I visit my brother. In a bill like this, I hear I'm gonna speak on the thirteenth, the other states that that she mentioned. I believe they got them wrong too. And I know that other angel families believe they got them wrong that's that's in those states. Because how would you feel if you were providing legal representation to somebody that murdered your family member?

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    My god. How would you feel? Because this is this bill does that. It absolutely does that. I don't I'm I'm screaming from the from the rooftops to the witness

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    who paid for your funeral services.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    My brother paid for his funeral. We had a victim advocate pay for my my brother's funeral because what comes with violent crime and death is a funeral cost. We did not have that. And thank God for victim advocate that paid for it.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    I wanna oh, thank thank you. Thank you, mister Jackson, for filling in well. I just wanna remind folks that we are time crunch right now because there is another committee that needs to meet in this room. I wanna thank you for coming all the way up here and sharing your testimony as well. But, similar to talking about, I feel that you've made your point sufficiently clear.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    We just want to be able to give it to the business, if that's possible.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Fairly Is

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    it fair to say that you've sufficiently made your point?

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And I just wanna say thank you Okay. For the witness coming, speaking on behalf of the Angel families. You know, I think it's something that a lot of people need to pay attention to, that it was very clearly stated that it didn't matter if people committed murder, that the state of California should use taxpayer funds to protect them. Convicted of it too.

  • Jody Jones

    Person

    We matter.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. I wanna thank the author for being here, all your, witnesses as well. And for the robust discussion today, I will invite the author to unless there's any other comments or questions or motions. Any motions?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Alright. I'll invite the author to close.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Second. I appreciate the committee's patience in reviewing this bill at this late hour. I will say that we have based our democracy and our constitutional protections on affording every individual, through criminal proceedings the ability to have a right to due process and a right to counsel. The current moment has people being swept up, put in detention centers, taken away from their families, subjected to, in detention centers, health, health situations that have led to their death.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    We haven't we heard a little bit of that from Harrison, who spent a month and a half in a detention proceeding as well as a child.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    And this, bill simply allows for us to focus on the basic tenet of our democracy, which is that everybody should be afforded the right to due process and a right to counsel. With that, I respectfully request your right vote.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Basu, so much for bringing this bill to us and, really reminding us how court is protect vulnerable immigrants. It is also a sad reality that many immigrants are being scapegoated for crimes and murders are out there, and that should not be the case. It is very unfortunate when anyone has their lives lost, if anyone has their lives lost. But I think it is important to remind folks that two things can be true, and we still need to protect our immigrant families.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    With that, I'm recommending an aye vote.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    It is for properly moving seconding. Madam secretary, please call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    File item 23 AB 2600. The motion is to pass to the Assembly Appropriations Committee. Lee?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Lee, aye. Castillo?

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Calderon, aye. El Huari? Aye. El Huari, aye. Jackson?

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Aye. Jackson, aye. Salace? Tongapaw? No.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Tongapaw, no.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Four to one, that bill is out. I appreciate the, flexibility of the Judiciary Committee and its chair, Asim Mishalura. With that, adjourn the assembly human service committee.

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