Hearings

Assembly Standing Committee on Military and Veterans Affairs

June 30, 2026
  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    I am gonna call this exciting meeting to order. Lots of energy in the room today. I love it. And so calling the military and veteran affairs committee to order. And before we begin, I wanna make a quick statement on providing testimony in the hearing.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    We seek to protect the rights of all participants, in the legislative process so that we can have effective deliberation on the critical issues facing California. All witnesses will be testifying in person, and all testimony comments are limited to the bills at hand. In order to facilitate the goal of hearing as much from the public within the limits of our time, we will not permit conduct that disrupts, disturbs, or otherwise impedes the orderly conduct of legislative proceedings.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    We will not accept disruptive behavior and behavior that incites or threatens violence. And we have eight bills on file today.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    On consent, there are five. So on consent, we have HR 120, Alanis, SJR 14 Cabaldon, and SB 1188 Archuleta, and SJR 17 Choi. What did I miss? And SB 892 Grove. And so we will start.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    I see an author here. Thank you for being here and on time. Senator McNerney, SB 1201: CalFresh Veterans Eligibility. And and just to clarify, because we don't have a quorum, we'll be moving forward as a subcommittee. Begin when you're ready.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    Vice Chair Gonzales and distinguished members of the committee. I'm here to present SB 1201: the No Hungry Heroes Act. This is a feel good bill. You all like it. HR 1, back in Washington, created some cuts in food assistance.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    The federal cuts specifically impacted vulnerable veterans. Many veterans rely on CalFresh to feed their families. SB 1201 helps protect veterans from these cuts by directing the state to request waivers from HR 1. SB 1201 also ensures that every veteran who applies for benefits is connected to a county veteran service officer. Today with me to testify is David West on behalf of the California Association of County Veterans Service Officers and Josh Wright on behalf of the California Association of Food Banks.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    David.

  • David West

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair, members of the Assembly, Military and Veterans Affairs Committee. Thank you for the opportunity to speak in support of Senate Bill 1201, the No Hungry Heroes Act. My name is David West, and I represent the California Association of County Veterans Services Officers. I'm also proud to serve those who served our nation. Across California, county veteran services officers work on the front lines with veterans and their families every day.

  • David West

    Person

    We see firsthand the challenges many face as they transition from military to civilian life, especially when it comes to stable employment and asset and access to basic needs like food. Recent federal changes to SNAP, known as CalFresh in California, have imposed strict work requirements and time limits do not reflect the realities that veterans face. These rules now apply to even veterans who are newly discharged, experiencing homelessness, awaiting disability determinations, or raising their children.

  • David West

    Person

    As a result, many are at risk of many are many are at real risk of going hungry. SB 1201 provides a thoughtful and a targeted solution.

  • David West

    Person

    It directs the state to seek federal waivers to protect these vulnerable veterans, ensures the job search costs are not counted against them, and critically, requires direct referrals to county veteran services officers when veterans apply for benefits. That connection is essential. Veteran services are often spread across multiple systems, making them difficult to navigate. CVSO's help bridge that gap, providing culturally competent accredited assistance that connects veterans to the full range of benefits they have earned.

  • David West

    Person

    Importantly, at the local level, most CVSOs are structurally housed within county departments of social services.

  • David West

    Person

    And even in counties where they are not, they maintain strong, direct, collaborative relationships with those departments. This means that SB 1201 builds on existing infrastructure. It strengthens coordination rather than creating something new. Simply put, this bill meets veterans where they are, removes unnecessary barriers, and ensures that those who serve our country do not go without food while working to rebuild their civilian lives. We respectfully ask for your aye vote on SB 1201.

  • David West

    Person

    Thank you for your time and consideration.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair and members. Last year on July 4, the Federal Government passed HR 1, which included the largest cuts to SNAP, known in California as CalFresh, in the program's history. It cannot be overstated how important the CalFresh program is. Over 5,000,000 Californians rely on the food benefits they receive from CalFresh every month, and our food banks cannot make up the difference. For every meal that we provide, CalFresh provides nine.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    The federal cuts impact people who are particularly vulnerable to food insecurity, including abuse and trafficking survivors, families with children, former foster youth, and veterans. HR 1 added a time limit on veteran a time limit, I'm sorry, on veterans, which requires them to report twenty hours of work per week or lose benefits after three months. These requirements apply even if the veteran has children in their home and there are no exemptions, if the veteran is unhoused, has a less than 100% disability diagnosis, or is recently discharged.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    In California, an estimated 115,000 veteran families rely on the vital food benefits that CalFresh provides. Recognizing the unique challenges that veterans face after service, SB 1201 does three things.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    It requests a federal waiver to exempt veterans from the CalFresh time limits if they are homeless, newly discharged, awaiting a disability determination, or if they have children. Two, it requires counties to give veterans who apply for benefits a direct referral to county veteran service officers who are the best prepared to serve Americans who have served. And it ensures that the money that veterans spend on job searching does not count against them being able to receive food assistance.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    Taking away food never helps anyone find a job, keep a job, or get more hours at their job. And making veterans hungry will never make us a better country.

  • Josh Wright

    Person

    The California Association of Food Banks has asked Congress to appeal HR 1 cuts to veterans and their family. Until they do, the least that we can do is make sure that California is doing all it can to protect veterans most at risk of going hungry. And it's for these reasons that, CFP is proud to support twelve o one, and we urge your aye vote.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Is there any, principal witnesses in opposition? Okay. Seeing none, do we have folks from the audience here in support? Your name, organization, and position.

  • David Cuda

    Person

    David Kuda, army retiree, representing VFW members of 90,000. I'm in support.

  • Seth Reeb

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair members. My name is Seth Reeb with Reeb Government Relations, representing or on here on behalf of the American Legion Department of California, AMVETS Department of California, the California State Commander's Veterans Council, Military Officers Association of America, and the Vietnam Veterans of America, all in support.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Jeff Neal

    Person

    Jeff Neal representing the Board of Supervisors of San Diego County, also in support.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you and anyone in opposition from the audience? Seeing none. Any questions from the dais?

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Vice Chair.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I wanna be clear on something here. As the as the only veteran in the State Assembly, there are - there are things that, you know, people will tell me to go one way or the other. And usually, it's a partisan thing. Right? They want me to go far right or far left or whatever the case may be.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And sometimes I have to watch my tongue because that's just how it is here. The reality of of this bill is that the oath that I swore to defend was to protect my marines. Period. My marines means all service members.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Right? That's kind of how how we roll. So, as a leader, sometimes we have to do the hard things and choose whether we want to be in a position of voting against something, voting for something, and that brings its own challenges. So, with this bill, there's no gap. There is no air in between.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Take care of my marines. Feed them. Help them. Close them. That's my marines, my airmen, my soldiers, my sailors.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Doesn't matter. Who's in charge. That is my top priority because I went to war with them. So, I wanna thank the author for this, because it's absolutely something that we continue to keep on fighting for on the on this committee is taking care of our veterans and our military families. No matter who's in charge.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    That's kind of the one of the responsibilities. We are the sentinels of this, on this dais. And the great thing about it is, a lot of times, we don't make it about a partisan thing. It's just the right thing to do. So, the right thing to do is take care of our service members and their families.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So, with that, I will be in full support of this when it's when when we vote.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you, Vice Chair. I wanna thank you for this bill. You know, I think a lot of people don't realize that our, you know, our veterans are on food stamps, that they're truly struggling with food insecurity. And, you know, and after serving our country, it truly is, I think, the least we can do to make sure people have the food that they need.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    So, you know, grateful for you seeing a need and seeing how veterans could be slipping through the cracks and coming forward with a solution and grateful to the witnesses who are here today.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    With that, would you like to close?

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    Yes. I would. Thank you. Well, I wanna thank Assemblymember, Vice Chair Gonzales for your comments. The vendor's issues are really nonpartisan.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    They're bipartisan, whatever you wanna call it. And you're absolutely right. And I appreciate the committee and the Chair for working on this to make sure that the veterans are taken care of. It's absolutely so. My son is a veteran. My father and my father-in-law were both veterans from World War II.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    So, I appreciate that and ask for an aye vote.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. And we're still a subcommittee, but when we, have a quorum, we'll let you know.

  • Jerry McNerney

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you so much. And I see Senator Cervantes here for SB 970. Go ahead and get started when you're ready.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam Chair and members. Today, I'm presenting Senate bill 970. In passing this bill, we would be honoring the legacy of our greatest generation whom World War two fought in theaters as far flung as Saipan and Guam and The Pacific and in France and the rest of Western Europe and nonetheless cast ballots in the nineteen forty four presidential election.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    After the enactment of the soldier voting act in 1944 and the introduction of a federal war ballot, nearly 2,500,000 of US armed service members deployed overseas cast their ballots. However, the logistical challenges in providing and returning ballots from service members deployed literally around the world amounted to only 25 voter participation rate.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    This bill is personal to me as I had great uncles in the US army who participated in the invasion of Normandy in June 1944. In 1955, in response to the difficulties experienced during World War two, Congress created the federal voting assistance program to assist members of the US armed force forces to and their families to vote when deployed overseas.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    In 1986, Congress followed up with the uniformed and overseas citizens absentee voting act of 1986, which required states to allow military and overseas voters to vote by absentee ballot. During the Gulf War in 1990, FVAP initiated the electronic transmission service, which permitted military voters to submit their ballots by fax to alleviate logistical issues posed by sending and returning ballots to and from The Middle East by mail.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    In 2009, Congress expanded the population of voters who could avail themselves of FVAP to include American citizens who are civilians living overseas through the enactment of the Move Act.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    2018, the electronic transmission service was narrowed into the DOD fax service, which allowed military and overseas voters to submit their ballots using email to fax systems only if their home state did not accept documents by email. Unfortunately, in August 2025, the Federal Government announced that FVAP would be discontinuing the DOD fax services.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    As we know now in the February and the last November statewide special election, many of these voters have logistical issues either receiving their mail ballots at all or submitting their ballots by mail in time to be counted. Indeed, just last, several months, the post service announced that it would terminate mail service to several countries, including many where the US military maintains bases.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    This means that Californians, ex pacs, and members of the US Armed Services and their families in these countries are literally unable to mail their ballots back.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    As of now, we have large numbers of American military personnel deployed overseas in the ongoing conflict with Iran. This is not a hypothetical problem. In 2024, the Brennan Center reported the story of a couple who are both members of the armed services deployed in Germany, who mailed their ballots to The United States three weeks before election day. In the end, their voices were not heard because even though they sent their ballots back weeks in advance, they did not arrive in time to be processed and counted.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    This is not uncommon.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    The Department of Defense survey found that one in seven military voters did not receive a mail ballot in time to vote or did not receive a ballot at all. Just in the last couple months, the San Francisco Chronicle published a story about the obstacles military and overseas voters face in trying to cast their ballots. They spoke with civilian voters from San Mateo County living in Munich who had not received their ballots in time for the June primary.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    California must step up and ensure that military and overseas voters from our state retain the ability to exercise our sacred right to vote. This bill will accomplish that goal by requiring the secretary of state to promulgate regulations, allowing military and overseas voters to submit their ballots through a secure method.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    I do wanna acknowledge that there are stakeholders, including the secretary of state, who have expressed concerns about ensuring that the method of submission is secure. I do share everyone's desire to ensure that military and overseas voters can cast their ballots in a way that maintains the essential integrity of our election systems and public faith in the results of our election.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    So my team and I will continue having those conversations as we move forward with stakeholders and try to find a path forward that strikes a balance between security and improving, our military members lawfully registered right, to access that ballot and to vote. I do wanna acknowledge, though, that, you know, when I'm thinking of a soldier from California who might be serving in the Green Zone in Baghdad, where they may have taken fire from Iranian drones in the ongoing conflict.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    Maybe they're a member from Riverside or service member from San Diego.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    Unfortunately, because they are from California, it will be difficult for them to vote in the gubernatorial election come November because the USPS has ended mail service to Iraq. On the other hand, if they have a friend in their platoon from Las Vegas who will still be able to vote because Nevada provides far more options for their military and overseas voters to cast their ballots.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    This is an equity issue, and I believe that we must do more to help provide military and overseas voter voters with the access to cast their ballot. With me to testify are the sponsors of our bill, which is the California Association of Clerks and Election Officials. Thank you, madam Chair.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. And actually, before your witnesses, if you don't mind, we'd love to get a quorum so we can actually vote. Madam secretary, could you call the roll?

  • Committee Secretary

    Here. Here. Gonzales? Here. Gonzales here.

  • Committee Secretary

    Avila Farias? Carrillo? Davies? Davies here. Erwin?

  • Committee Secretary

    Here. Irwin here. Quirk Silva? Quirk Silva here. And Valencia.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. We have a quorum. And with that, your witnesses have two minutes. Go ahead when you're ready. Awesome.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    Thank you so much. Good afternoon, Chair members of the committee. Lorissa Mercado, on behalf of the California Association of Clerks and Election Officials, a proud sponsor of SB 970.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    I wanna first start off in thanking the Senator for bringing this bill forward. It's very important for us and it's important that we we do what we need to do for Milos voters overseas. It's important to note that the prime driver for this bill is due to the Federal Government's end to the Department of Defense's fax service.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    The Department of Defense had an access portal that allowed military and overseas voters to fax or email their ballots to the DOD's portal, and the department would then forward those ballots over to counties as faxes since that's currently the only other way that counties can receive ballots beyond general vote by mail services. This service for counties was the simplest and cleanest and most direct route for military and overseas voters to provide a quick return of their ballots and is no longer accessible.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    As far as current process, counties across California do still maintain a vote by mail process that overseas voters can access. And under federal law, registrars can send out those specific ballots fifteen days earlier than we send local voters. However, this does not ensure that they are able to successfully and efficiently return their ballots on time. In addition, existing fax processes for counties are very limited. Various counties across California only have a couple fax lines and have reported issues of busy signals among others.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    Beyond kind of limitations, we cannot assume that military and overseas voters have access to fax machines. Our goal with this bill is to provide a secure access route, one that the secretary of state can work with all stakeholders to ensure that it remains secure and remains private for the overseas voters. Our association is committed to working with the secretary of state and all stakeholders. I would like to note that any solution here will not directly link to the voting systems.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    So when it comes to email security issues and questions, all other systems are completely separate and not impacted, meaning that there is no way that this solution that we come to will impact our certified secured voting systems in California.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    Just this morning, just one little tidbit that I heard back from one of our registrars, is that in Fresno County, they had to reject for this past June primary four Milos ballots, because they were not received before the seven day post marking window. This includes one voter who sent their ballot back via mail on May 20 from Canada, and Fresno didn't receive it until June 12, having to reject the ballot.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    To conclude, as Stated, we are committed to work with secretary of State's office and all other parties to ensure there is a secure and effective process for military and overseas voters to return their ballots. Thank you for your time today. And when the time is right, I respectfully ask your aye vote.

  • Lorissa Mercado

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Okay. Any witnesses in opposition, primary witnesses?

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Okay. Any witnesses in opposition, primary witnesses?

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Listen. You have two minutes, and you can go ahead and start when you're ready. Okay.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    Adam, Chair and members. Tim Cromartie on behalf of Secretary of State Shirley and Weber. We are not opposed to this measure. We have a neutral position. However, we have lingering concerns, significant concerns that we would like to get on the record.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    First, there is no question that those who donned the uniform of our armed forces and are willing to place their physical safety and their very lives at risk deserve to have their right and their ability to vote absolutely protected. Our position on this legislation has never been driven by opposition to that concept. It is concerned for the integrity of our election system in an era that is rife with cybersecurity threats and no improvement in that situation on the horizon.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    Despite the recent amendments, there has still been talk of at some point in evoking electronic transmission as a possible solution and with valid reason given the time and the distances involved with military and overseas voters. SB 970 does not define what qualifies as a, quote, secure ballot return method, unquote, nor does it establish any specific requirements or standards, and it provides SOS discretion without clear guidance.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    This supports the argument for our previously submitted amendments for a task force, which would provide that guidance. Today, we have consensus on both the existence of a problem regarding military and overseas voters and the need to take action in light of the defunding of the DOD fax program that facilitated return of their ballots for those, stationed overseas. What we do not have today is a consensus on what specific action to take to address the problem.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    The current version of the bill, provides direction that is vague at best in terms of what regulations would look like. What we need, we believe, is a path to developing consensus among policymakers on what specific option to pursue to ensure military and oversee voters are not disenfranchised, and our amendments would provide that.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    The mechanism we propose is a task force with a public process of evaluating and weighing options, looking at best practices nationwide, bringing in cybersecurity experts from the private sector, academia, and government, involving representatives from the counties who are familiar with election returns as well as representatives of military and veterans organizations. The speaker and the pro tem would also have appointees as well as the secretary of state appointees. It is not an open ended process.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    It would be required to make a report to the legislature by the December 2027. And the like the reality is there will likely have to be an electronic solution of some kind.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    We acknowledge that. But before we overturn the statute protecting California's vote system and our 54 votes in the Electoral College from Electronic Tampering, we urge caution. We believe a prudent approach is to take time, study the problem in a deliberate fashion, identify best practices, looking on what other states are doing in this process and their degree of success, and if possible, develop solid consensus among policymakers in and out of the legislature on a specific course of action.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    We urge action, but action that is deliberate and thoughtful rather than by regulatory fiat. The integrity of future elections in California is an issue, and the state could not be higher.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Any people from anyone from the public who would like to speak in support? Alright. Name, organization, and position.

  • Ignacio Hernandez

    Person

    No problem. Good Good afternoon, madam Chair, members Ignacio Hernandez on behalf of verified voting. We're kind of a tweener position. We were opposed to the bill, original language, and it was the wording of electronic transmission was deleted, but there's still discussion as if electronic transmission or return of ballots will be part of the regulations that are mandated. So that's concerning for us.

  • Ignacio Hernandez

    Person

    We do support kind of an interim step of identifying what the problem is and then matching the regulations to that. We think that interim step seems to be skipped in this, but we're willing to continue to discuss with the author and secretary of State's office. We think identifying the problem needs to be just a little bit more specific before we get to mandate or regulation.

  • Ignacio Hernandez

    Person

    I should mention verify vote is by nonpartisan election technology experts that we work with administrations, federally, state, and local level for decades.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you. We'll take that as the second opposition witness. So everyone else, name, organization, and position. Thanks.

  • Mark Isidra

    Person

    Mark Isidra with the county of Los Angeles in support. Thank you.

  • Jean Hurst

    Person

    Jean Hurst here today on behalf of the Riverside County Board of Supervisors in support.

  • Emma Jungworth

    Person

    Emma Jungworth on behalf of the California State Association of Counties in support.

  • Seth Reeb

    Person

    Seth Reed with Reed Government Relations representing American Legion Department of California, AMBETS Department of California, the California State Commander's Veterans Council, Military Officers Association of America, and the Vietnam Veterans of America, all in support.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Any members of the public in opposition? Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the dias for questions. Assemblymember Erwin.

  • Jacqui Irwin

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator, and appreciate, the problem that you're trying to solve. I I do apologize. I walked in a little bit late, but you had mentioned that, you were talking about two situations, a soldier from California and then somebody from Phoenix. Are the and can you explain that again and what is the difference between what's happening in Arizona and what's happening in California that was causing the delay.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    Absolutely. Through the Chair. So there are currently 24 other states, including the District Of Columbia, who allow their military and overseas voters multiple options on how to submit their ballot when they are overseas. The California does not.

  • Jacqui Irwin

    Legislator

    And that that is, surprising because California has been trying to expand voting as much as possible. So, with that

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    So we are currently disenfranchising all those military voters.

  • Jacqui Irwin

    Legislator

    With that, I'll move the bill.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you, vice Chair.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Thank you to to the author. Thank you to the author. I just wanna clarify some things, that were said for my own clarity. If you'll, indulge me as I walk through this process. And I I think he just said it, but let me just go through this, in my own brain.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So this is not a federal issue. This is a state issue that can be corrected at the state. Is that is that what I just hit?

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    It was because of a federal overturning that we are addressing this at a state level. But, yes, it is a state by state solution.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So we can we can solve this at the state issue and no problem.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    We could address the issue at a state level.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Okay. Great. And by the way, I'll I'll get back to the secretary of state at the end of this, with your office to to, add some thoughts to this piece. So what I know is that the DOD fax service ended. Right?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    No email to fax assistance, no ballot interception. Those are the things that were discontinued. As someone who's voted overseas, I just wanna separate the two pieces because it's veteran or military and then overseas members. There's actually, I I would say, three factions, if you will. There's the military members.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    There's the diplomatic corps, and then there's the someone an expat living overseas, so on and so forth. So I can see the availability of the DOD member on a base or wherever, and I can see the availability in the diplomatic corps. The challenge, I think, is on the overseas side or the the expat side, trying to make trying to vote with this fax service that's that's been ended by the DOD. Are are we try we're on the same sheet of music right now? Hopefully.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Okay. Because I'm trying to I'm trying to understand it. So in this specific piece, I'm also looking at the the FVAP is still the portal is still active for military members. Installation voting assistance is is done. That's something that I did both in combat and, on there.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    But I can I also see your I see the nuance of this, right, of of what you're trying to say? My my question here with respect to California is if this is it sounds like an easy fix. Right? But not nothing's that easy here. Right?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    What is your end goal of all of the of your specific bill? Like, if you could summarize what that end goal is with respect to procedure.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    Yes. Through the Chair again. We have worked through a series of amendments where we did remove the concerning element of electronic from the language of the bill, given the security concerns that have been brought up by the secretary of state and and other stakeholders. So we have left it into the hands of the secretary of state to help guide us in a solution.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And the now they're giving some pushback on it. What's your response to that? Because they they're like, you know, hey. December is right around the corner. Would you be willing to push it out?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Or do you think that this is, like, something that needs to be done right now? Where where do you stand on that?

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    We are having ongoing conversations on a path forward. We do not believe a task force is the path forward as it is more costly, and I believe that is a a direction that we are not looking at given not trying to add additional cost to our state at this point in time, but we also believe that inaction is not a solution.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Okay. Thank you for that. And to the secretary of State's office, your your response to those?

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    Well, we don't believe that a task force necessarily has to be costly. The work of the task force to a degree can and should be done administratively. And and we're we're willing to roll up our sleeves and try to figure that out to make it as cost effective as possible.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    The other thing that I would note is that the FVAP, before it was shut down, was actually criticized for focusing too much on civilians living overseas and not directing enough attention to the military voters because they were the ones who needed the assistance and the outreach. And, part of the problem one of the justifications was that the program was not doing enough to, penetrate the military overseas community.

  • Timothy Cromartie

    Person

    And so they they in part justify defunding it based on that because it seemed that the program was catering doing two things, catering to the civilian overseas population and emphasizing something that in California is out now illegal, which is Internet voting.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So I understand that, you know, it it takes a lot to move this ship. But I also understand the the author's intent here of trying to let's let's just fix the the problem. And and it's because of that. You know, I wanna thank the author for your leadership in this. Honestly, one of the issues that we see is sometimes we don't have action.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Sometimes it takes too long. So I appreciate your your action and wanting to get this done, and I'm sure you'll work together to to do all of that. And especially, this is a nuance. Like, this is is not a, you know, something that that people would be paying attention to. So I appreciate the fact that you're looking at these nuances.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So it's because of that and and that I will fully be in support of you and any help that you need on that, please feel free.

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Any other questions? You know, I wanna I wanna thank you for bringing this forward. I know that we're having to try to invent new things as some of the supports at the federal level just disappear before us. And, you know, I appreciate the concerns brought by the secretary of state who is tasked with making sure we have secure and safe elections and and that we you know?

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And and so California, I think, is often in a situation of having to find that balance or we endeavor to find that balance of making sure that we are balancing access and people's ability to vote with safety and security.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And that's one of the reasons that it takes a while to count votes in California because we wanna make sure as many votes are counted and that everyone has a chance to vote by 8PM on election night and that we count all of those votes. And so, you know, so so I I think, you know, from the comments you heard, we we wanna find a solution here. I appreciate that the secretary of State's office is trying to be, you know, creative with some solutions.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    You know, hopefully and I think, you know, as you as you mentioned, the task force could be administrative. It's something that with this bill passing, the secretary of State's office could just choose to do.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And, you know, looking at at what other States are doing and other models makes a lot of sense to me too, but I don't think it has to be. I think that the it it seems and correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like the author is really endeavoring to defer to the expertise and knowledge of the secretary of State's office to to guide this process and leaving a lot of openness and flexibility for for that to happen.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    So I know a lot of conversations are still happening, and we're hoping that you guys get to a kumbaya moment. But, you know, today, I'll be recommending that it it move forward with an aye vote in the hopes that those conversations can continue as well.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Would you like to close?

  • Sabrina Cervantes

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you, madam Chair, and thank you for the dialogue today with the committee membership. Again, this bill will help correct this inequity that we currently see and help provide military and overseas members, voters with more options to cast their ballot. And with that, respectfully ask for an aye vote.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. And we have a motion. Motion. Motion and a second. Okay.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Moved by Erwin, second by Yes, Chair. No. Yes. Yes. Okay.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Okay. Got it figured out. Secretary, can you please call the roll?

  • Committee Secretary

    Senate bill 970 by Senator Cervantes. Motion is do passed, and we refer to the committee on appropriations. Schiavo?

  • Jacqui Irwin

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Schiavo, aye. Gonzales?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Gonzales, aye. Avila Farias? Aye. Avila Farias, aye. Carrillo?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Carrillo, aye. Davies? Aye. Davies not voting. Irwin?

  • Committee Secretary

    Aye. Irwin, aye. Quirk Silva? Aye. Quirk Silva,

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Aye. Valencia? That's out with six votes, and we'll leave the role open for asset members. Thank you. And last but not least, Senator Jones.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Welcome. Please go ahead and get started. SB 1224. You can begin when you're ready.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    There we go. Thanks a lot. Appreciate that. Good afternoon, chairwoman, members. It's an honor to be back with the Assembly.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I'm here today to present Senate Bill 1224, the California Emerging Therapies Research Partnership Act. I wanna thank, principal coauthors, Senator Wiener and Becker, and Assembly member Lowenthal for their work on this issue. SB 1224 is a narrow research infrastructure bill intended to position California to compete for available federal research funding through the Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health. Earlier this year, the Federal Government directed ARPA to make available at least $50,000,000 in funding to states with qualifying emerging therapies and research programs.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    California is uniquely positioned to compete for those funds.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    The University system already has federally registered clinical trials underway at campuses including UCSF, UC San Diego, UCLA, UC Berkeley, and UC Davis. What California currently lacks is the statutory framework needed to apply for and receive the federal partnership funding. SB 1224 addresses that gap and will allow California research universities to continue their work in an important area with this new funding. Importantly, this bill does not spend General Fund Dollars.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    The fund established would hold $0 unless and until the federal awards or other eligible non general fund monies are received.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Joining me today in speak of and to speak in support of the bill is David Cuda, the state commander for the VFW of California.

  • David Cuda

    Person

    Good afternoon, chairperson Schiavo, committee members. I'm David Cuda. I'm a disabled army retiree and a commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars for California. I thank you for the opportunity to speak on behalf of over 90,000 members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, its auxiliary, and the 1,600,000 California veterans we serve. Today, I'm asking for your support for, Senate Bill 1224 as the California Emerging Therapies Partnership Act enables funding for veterans suffering from PTSD, depression, opioid, addiction, and other invisible wounds of war.

  • David Cuda

    Person

    This bill will enable funding that increases access to alternative and complementary treatment options and is critical importance as it affects people's lives. The reality is sobering. On average, more than twenty one veterans die by suicide every day in America. Thousands more struggle with silently with PTSD, depression, anxiety, substance abuse, and social isolation. While traditional treatments such as counseling and medication help many veterans, they do not work for everyone.

  • David Cuda

    Person

    This one pill fits all approach has left a fatal legacy in its wake for these men and women who have borne the battle for this country and its citizens. Our veterans deserve access to every tool available to support their recovery. This is not asking to replace evidence based medical treatment. We're asking for the mechanism for funding that will allow the California medical research hospitals and their partners to expand access to alternative therapies that have shown promise in improving mental health outcomes and reducing suicide risk.

  • David Cuda

    Person

    When a veteran reaches a point of crisis, we owe them more than one path to healing.

  • David Cuda

    Person

    We owe them options. We owe them hope. The cost of inaction is simply too high. Every veteran lost to suicide is a son, daughter, husband, wife, parent, friend, or battle buddy whose life mattered. As an army veteran, I've lost too many friends that fought a war, yet decided the mental health battle was too great and took their life to escape that reality.

  • David Cuda

    Person

    As leaders, we have an opportunity to support innovative solutions and provide veterans with the resources they need to heal, investing in alternative PTSD treatments and investment in saving lives, to help veterans reconnect with their families, communities, and a sense of purpose. I respectfully ask for your support in Senate bill 1224 to enable access to funding that will for the continued research of therapies that can help us save our veterans who have sacrificed so much for our nation. Thank you for your time.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Any principal witnesses in opposition?

  • Unidentified Speaker 006

    And

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    and members of the public in support.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Thank you. Cody Boyle's on behalf of Vet Fund Foundation, and I'm also, was asked to register support for the California Association of County Veterans Service Officers. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker 016

    Madam Chair and members, Anthony Molina on behalf of Heroic Hearts Project and Healing Breakthrough in support. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker 006

    Seth Reed with REIT government relations representing American Legion Department of California, AMVETS Department of California, the California State Commander's Veterans Council, Military Officers Association of America, and the Vietnam Veterans of America all in support. Thank you. Cool.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. Any members of the public in opposition? Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the dias. Any questions? Vice Chair?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Senator, thank you for for this bill. I worked on a similar bill with, a Solomon Boenthal about this. And, I I asked your office to be a co author. They said, you know, I had to wait my turn because so many people wanted to join. But, yes, you're absolutely correct.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    A lot of thing a lot of people don't understand the, when it comes to therapies, modalities for for veterans specifically. I went through the what was known as wounded warrior battalion. And at wounded warrior battalion, you know, you start off with pills and then they try to give you 10 different routes. And, you know, at first, it's kinda funny. Like, why would I wanna go through through this?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    But honestly, you know, wood turning therapy with gardening and and a whole bunch of other different things. Honestly, those are some of the things that saved my life outside of the traditional. Let me just give you a pill. As the potential eleventh member of my 10 marines who died by suicide, I was looking for that way out. How do you how do you figure it out?

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So I I have specifically had members that I have served with that have done this outside of this country, and it has saved their life Saved their life. So whatever we have to do to save the lives of of our veterans, I I think we're we're all on on board for something like that. So I wanna thank you for your leadership. Thank you for your leadership, and you'll you'll find my full support. Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Any other questions from the dais? Yes. Assemblyman.

  • Jacqui Irwin

    Legislator

    I just wanna say thank you as well and I'd be honored to be a co author.

  • Unidentified Speaker 006

    Thank you.

  • Jacqui Irwin

    Legislator

    I don't know if I've waited my time.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    We'll reopen the list. I'm we're glad to have you on as coauthors. Thank you very much.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    So thank you so much. I know there's been different iterations of this bill and appreciate the creativity and really trying to address a a critical and and dire need Right. In our veteran community. I just wanna make sure we get on the record. My understanding is that you have agreed to take amendments before you reach the Senate.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004

    Right.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Deleting the Department of Healthcare Services, ensuring clinicians or researchers on the CalVet advisory council have no conflicts of interest, a requirement that CalVet must use current resources for administration of the advisory council and that work with CalVet and other departments to ensure the timelines are within their Yes. Ability. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. You know, we've certainly, we've heard a number from a number of veterans who have had to go outside of the country for this kind of treatment. We know that, you know, being able to ensure that this is something we can do safely is a critical path forward for our veterans. And, and with that, do we have a motion? By the Chair or vice Chair?

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And second? Davies? Thank you. And would would you like to close?

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    I'll just close by saying thank you. I wanna thank both this committee and the Assembly Health Committee for taking a leadership role on this issue. Both committees have been very helpful in in in taking care of this, and I appreciate the comments also in support of of the research. And I just wanna share with all of us that we have a this is a beginning step, you know, a very elementary step.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    We have a lot of work to do legislatively, policy wise, after this research is completed.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    But but I am very encouraged by the comments saying, madam Chair, thank you very much for your help. Appreciate you and and your support. Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you. And with that, madam secretary, we call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Senate bill 1224 by Senator Jones. The motion is do passed, and we refer to the committee on appropriations. Schiavo? Aye. Schiavo, aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Gonzales?

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Gonzales, aye. Avila Farias? Aye. Avila Farias, aye. Carrillo?

  • Committee Secretary

    Aye. Carrillo, aye. Davies? Aye. Davies, aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Erwin? Aye. Erwin, aye. Quirk Silva? Quirk Silva, Aye.

  • Committee Secretary

    Valencia? Yes. Valencia, yes.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    That has eight votes. That's out.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And we will do a round of votes starting with Oh. Oh.

  • Brian Jones

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    So So first, for the consent calendar, HR1 20 Alanis, HR 892 Grove or sorry. SB 892 Grove. SB 1188 Archuleta. SJR 14 Cabaldon and SJR 17 Choi. Madam secretary, could you please call the roll? We have a motion sorry. Motion and a second. Do you use motion by second? And vice Chair with a second? Got it. Call the roll, please

  • Committee Secretary

    [Roll Call]

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    That's out with eight votes. And our one more vote, Senator, or Assembly member. We still needed to vote on Senator McNerney's SB 1201. Is there a motion? Okay. Motion by Quirk Silva, second by Carrillo. And madam secretary, would you please call the roll?

  • Committee Secretary

    [Roll Call]

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Nope. That's out with eight votes. And we are going to do add ons now for SB 970 Madam Secretary

  • Committee Secretary

    [Roll Call]

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