Hearings

Senate Select Committee on Select Committee on California’s Wine Industry

September 3, 2026
  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We're gonna call to order the select, the Senate Select Committee on California's Wine Industry. And welcome, everyone, to UC Davis for our hearing, members of the public, our distinguished panelists and experts. And particularly I want to acknowledge and thank my colleague, the Majority Leader of the California State Assembly and the Assembly Member for this amazing district, which includes Yolo and Napa and Lake and Colusa Counties.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And Sonoma County as well, overlapping with half of my district as well. So it's always a great honor to have Assembly Member Aguiar-Curry with us, and she has been extremely active this year in advancing legislation and budget, budget items in order to support California's wine industry.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So it's a special, it's a special treat to have her here in her own district. And I also wanna thank Dr. Jessica Berg, the Dean of the UC Davis School of Law, and the entire UC Davis team for generously hosting us here at King Hall. And I'd like to invite Dean Berg actually to make a few opening remarks. Thanks again for having us.

  • Jessica Berg

    Person

    Alright. Good afternoon and welcome. As you noted, I'm Jessica Berg, the dean here at the UC Davis School of Law, and we're so very pleased to host this Senate committee hearing to discuss California's wine industry. For over 140 years, the University of California Davis has played a pivotal role in advancing the California wine industry. In 1880, the California legislature instructed the regents of the University of California to establish a program providing for instruction and research in viticulture and enology.

  • Jessica Berg

    Person

    The current department engages in cutting edge research and educational outreach, facilitating a partnership between the University of California and the table grape, raisin, and wine industries. Our Robert Mondavi Institute for Wine and Food Science, whose mission it is to enhance public understanding of wine brewing and food sciences provides public programming highlighting innovations crucial to the wine industry.

  • Jessica Berg

    Person

    And at the school of law, where we focus on the policy side of things, we have courses in wine law and related fields and even a student wine law society. We view our proximity of Sacramento as a positive and continue to look for ways to establish and expand our connections. Thank you for coming to King Hall, to UC Davis, and I look forward to continuing the discussion about how we can further strengthen our ties with the capitol.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Dean Berg, thank you so much. To restate what what you said, we wouldn't be here today if it weren't for UC Davis. And not only because we're in this wonderful facility here at King Hall, but the success, the quality, the resilience, the economic impact, the joy of California wine, it owes so much throughout its history to the scientists, the economists, the creative folks here at UC Davis.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so we couldn't be more proud to be here today and to hear from folks who I know several of our panelists are alumni of UC Davis as well. And that impact, that contribution to the success of the industry and of California's unique world position and competitiveness in wine owes so much to UC Davis.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So thank you again for having us. We're here today, although we're excited to be at UC Davis, we're here because the wine industry in California is battling on so many fronts. At our last hearing in Napa at Napa Valley College, we talked about a lot of the economic and market trends that the industry is facing and how we might address them both as the state government, but as California as an entire community.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But it also faces challenges from the natural world, whether naturally occurring or not, including the impacts of climate change and successive waves of invasive species, pests, and disease that have been the story of wine not just here in California, but around the world for decades. The rediscovery of the glassy winged sharpshooter earlier this year illustrates just how dynamic this challenge has become in this part of California in particular.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    This invasive species is a vector for Pierce's disease, which already cost California wine growers an estimated $48 million a year. The Senator for Temecula, who is a member of this committee, knows this situation quite well, as many of our colleagues throughout Southern California and the and the San Joaquin Valley do as well. But the threat is statewide for reasons that we will hear later today and so must the solutions be. Grapevine red blotch is another growing threat. It's a virus that can significantly diminish fruit quality and yield.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And because there's no cure, once a vine is infected, red blotch underscores the importance of early detection, clean nurseries stock, and coordinated efforts to manage the insects that spread it, and to have effective detection and rapid response. So even so, California has in its wine industry a long and storied history of resilience and prosperity through challenges just like this. And meeting these challenges will require tenacity, partnership, and investment. They always have. They always will. That's what it takes to be the world's leader in wine.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I know, on behalf of the legislature, certainly Assembly Member Aguiar-Curry, and myself, members of the select committee, including the President of the California State Senate who was trying to join us by Zoom. We could, there is no Zoom, today, but this is an issue that is of great importance to Senator Monique Limón, the President of the Senate who represents Santa Barbara and Central Coast, the Central Coast wine industry as well. This is a top priority for the legislature and I know for the governor as well, as it is for so many Californians.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I'd like to invite Assembly Member Aguiar-Curry to make any remarks that she would she would like, and again, to thank her for her steadfast leadership on behalf of the industry, bringing science and nature based solutions to so many public policy challenges in the state, drawing often around research or practical work in the field that is happening right here at UC Davis to applying them to California public policy programs all over the place.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But both of us have been working hard to both focus state government and the legislature on the over, on the overarching challenges that the wine industry face. And then we have each been carrying big and small pieces of legislation to try to address the, I'm not gonna say death because we are alive and well, but the challenge of 1,000 cuts that the wine industry faces in California every day. And so Assembly Member Aguiar-Curry, thanks again for being a part of today, and I'd like to invite you to make any opening remarks.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you, Senator Cabaldon. Thank you for having us here today. As we know, this is a really important conversation. The problem, this is a problem that's impacting the wine industry, just not in my district, but all up and down the State of California. And so I'm here to listen and to hopefully we can find out some solutions. The glassy winged sharpshooters may be a small bug, but boy, it's a threat that poses anything but small. I farm.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    My brothers and I farm, and we know what it costs when you get some kind of invasive species. But here we have, in the grape industry, we have hard, our farmers and growers work hard to protect our crops, their livelihoods, and we need to do everything we can do to stay ahead of the pest.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    We know early detection matters. Trapping, tracing where the pest has traveled, getting ahead of the new detections can make the difference between a manageable problem and a much bigger one. We secured $10 million for the commissioners, but it's not new funding. That's why I asked for funding in the budget to help CDFA and our counties respond now. I'd much rather be spending my time today to contain this problem than wait until it spreads and cost California farmers and taxpayers many more many more dollars.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And we need to think beyond this year, not just today, but beyond this year, have a vision. CDFA estimates we may need about 5 million per year over the next three years to expand trapping, surveys, and outreach. If we let this widespread infestation take hold, the eradication cost could be far higher. So we need to start talking about this now so we can plan for this in future budgets.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And when I say now, we've been looking at this for a while, and I feel like we go on deaf ears. At the end of the day, this is about protecting California agriculture, our vineyards, our citrus, our orchards, our farm workers, and the communities that depend on them. I'm grateful for all of you to be here today. I'm ready to listen, to learn, and work together to make sure we can get in front of this before it gets any worse. And thank you, Senator.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, Assembly Member Aguiar-Curry. It is a, it is a, we have we have a lot of work to do here today. And so we wanna and we wanna make sure we get it right, and that we focus the State of California on both glassy winged sharpshooter and red blotch disease and similar invasive species issues that we're all gonna be concerned about. So let's get started with our panel and start learning and moving on to action.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that we're going to begin by inviting Dr. Cindy Kron with the National the North Coast Area Integrated Pest Management Advisor to give us the big picture overview and some of the recent findings, challenges, issues, and some of the policies informed by our past successes and identify species of concern. Dr. Kron, for thank you for being with us.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Thank you so much. Okay. Good afternoon, Chair and Committee Members. I will repeat them. My name is Cindy Kron, and I'm the North Coast Integrated Pest Management Advisor. I advise for insect pests and invasive species that affect commercial grapes, walnuts, pears, and olives in Napa, Sonoma, Lake, and Mendocino Counties.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Today, I'm here to open up, this conversation and address glassy-winged sharpshooter introductions in Northern California and their potential impacts on the grape industry. So this started with a nursery in Fresno area that delivered grapevines to Northern California Costcos in 24 counties in Northern California between April 21 and May 21 without the proper hold tags.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    So what that means is that the nursery is responsible for putting a hold tag on shipments being delivered out of counties. And what that indicates to the Costco workers is I see a hold tag. I contact my local ag commissioner. They come down. They do an inspection, and that inspection happens before it's sold on the show floor.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Without that hold tag, for a month shipments were being delivered to these 24 counties without being inspected. Luckily, it would have been nice if it was earlier, but luckily, there came a point in which a worker in Sonoma County at Costco got a shipment of grapevines, didn't have a hold tag, and was like, wow, this is weird.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    So they called the ag commissioner's office because they have a close relationship with the ag commissioner, and they know that in the past they've had these hold tags and they're supposed to hold the product before being sold. They called the ag commissioner's office in Sonoma County and asked, hey. We got this shipment. Do you wanna come down and inspect? And they were, yes. We do.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    We wanna come down and inspect. And they came down to inspect the shipment and found all life stages of glassy-winged sharpshooter. So that is eggs, nymphs, and adults on grapevines being sold on the show floor. This started the whole process of looking at where else have you shipped your grapevines, for how long has this happened, and going back and tracing to discover that it actually occurred for a whole month, 24 counties. So in addition, a nursery in Texas sent 10 trucks of desert willow and elephant ears.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Again to Costco locations but this time in 18 counties between June 24 and July 3. When entering into California, they passed a CDFA station, and only three of those trucks were given hold tags. That means seven trucks entered without hold tags. Luckily, this was caught quickly, but desert willow was sold without being inspected. And when desert willow was inspected, they found glassy-winged sharpshooter eggs on that plant material.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    In addition, in Sacramento, they found eggs of another sharpshooter called the broad headed sharpshooter. This insect is not in the State of California. It would be considered a quarantine pest, and it could also vector Xyella fastidiosa that causes Pierce's disease just like glassy winged sharpshooter.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    So in addition, since that point, CDFA, during a CDFA briefing on August 12, they have announced that glassy-winged sharpshooter fines in six counties, Shasta, Sacramento, Santa Barbara, Santa Clara, Stanislaus, and Contra Costa. I have not received an update from CDFA since then, so I don't know what has progressed and any more details other than the findings in those counties.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    So glassy-winged sharpshooter, it vector Xyella fastidiosa, which is a bacterium that causes Pierce's disease. This bacterium enters the plant in the xylem and it multiplies, and it blocks the transport of water and dissolve nutrients upward from the roots. And what that looks like in the vineyard when you see PD and signs of PD is water stress of grape vines, leaf scorch, shriveled fruits, and eventually death of the grapevine in one to three years after the initial infection. Currently, we have no cure for this bacterium.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    And once it enters into the xylem, there is nothing we can do other than rogue that grapevine. But if that grapevine is not rogue, it is a source of inoculum for our other sharpshooters that can acquire by feeding and move it to uninfected grapevines. So we have native sharpshooters that vector Xyella fastidiosa. We have blue green sharpshooter, green sharpshooter, red headed sharpshooter, willow sharpshooter.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    We also have the meadow spittlebug up in Northern California. So why are we concerned about just another sharpshooter, right? Glassy winged sharpshooter, why does it really matter? And why it matters is because glassy winged sharpshooter is not like the other sharpshooters. They are not equal. They are not the same thing. And the reason being is, let's start with the distance that it can fly. It can fly up to a quarter mile a day. This is an insect that moves across the landscape. And it will continue to move as it goes.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Where our native sharpshooters live in the riparian area, they move into neighboring grapevines that are near the riparian area and they move back into the riparian area. They do not move across the landscape. So the areas in which we have disease flare up are the same areas year after year because of this relationship.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    When you have glassy-winged sharpshooter that can fly over a quarter mile and it continues to fly, it does not return back to a certain area, it will transmit this bacterium further as its moving across that landscape. Another difference is that it's considerably larger. It's half an inch. It is, it's about twice the size of our native sharpshooters. And with that, it's a voracious feeder. It ingests a lot of xylem. It feeds on a lot more grapevines than our native sharpshooters.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    And this can exponentially increase the rate of vine to vine spread of PD during a single season. It also feeds lower on the shoots in summer. Our native blue green sharpshooter, which is our main vector in the North Coast, feeds on the green, very succulent shoot tips. And if they feed in springtime, that bacterium will travel into the permanent wood for a persistent infection the following year. But if they feed anytime from June on, there's not enough time for that bacterium to get to the permanent wood before pruning happens in winter.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    So it's not a persistent infection. There's a small window in which the Xyella is transmitted that becomes a persistent Pierce's disease infection with our native sharpshooters. But with glassy wing sharpshooter, it feeds lower on that shoot below where the pruning cuts are. It enters into the permanent wood and it also is able to feed lower in summer time. So it continues.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    It has the whole season to transmit this bacterium. And in addition, it also feeds on one to two year old grapevines during dormancy. Our native sharpshooters do not feed on the dormant wood, but this glassy winged sharpshooter can. And so it's able to transmit back this bacterium at times in which our native sharpshooters don't do it. So this sharp shooter, glassy winged sharpshooter, has over 300 different host species that span over agricultural, urban, and native environments.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    We cannot limit the host of this insect because no matter where it goes, it will find a place to feed. Some of the crop hosts that are affected and that we have in the Northern California area are grapevines, citrus, olive, almonds, stone fruit, avocados, fig, blackberry, apple, pomegranate, pistachio, pear, persimmon, walnut, and that is not a full list of agricultural crops. Some of the ornamentals are crepe myrtle, oleander, hibiscus, bougainvillea, boxwood, privet, eucalyptus, ash, sycamore, acacia.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Again, not a full list. There's over 300 species out there. And it's very important to point out when we had to deal with this before, a case study of 1998 to 2000, in which they had the outbreak of Pierce's disease that devastated the Temecula wine region after the introduction of glassy-winged sharpshooter. It is approximated that 30 to 60% of grapevines were destroyed or removed due to this infection in order to combat the spread of this disease in a very short period of time. So we've dealt with this before in California, but we haven't dealt with it up here in the North Coast.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    There is a CDFA 2025 economic impact study in which the cost of Pierce's disease to California is estimated at $110 million a year with 48 million of that born by the grape growers themselves. If glassy-winged sharpshooter becomes established in Northern California, it is estimated by this study that the cost to growers alone will more than double to $104 million annually at a time that the grape industry is really struggling, at the time in which the grape industry does not have the money for this.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    And so with UCNR, we've responded by submitting a rapid response grant two days ago. I am PI on it's a NIFA grant to able to address some of the needs for extension needs. We are not a regulatory body, but we educate. And with education, we can help prevent establishment. And so this is addressing urban, nursery, master gardener education, and outreach.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    And commercial grape industry workshops to teach hands on identification using actual specimens of insects, of showing eggs, different instars of nymphs and adults. They can see with a microscope in person so that they can become familiar enough that if they see it in the field, they know what they're looking at. They know that they need to then report it and then how to report it.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    It also this grant will include developing a degree day model tool for growers to use, trapping supplies, and Spanish translated materials, which is very much needed. Because our growers that are out in the field, we speak all languages, and it's very important that this information is able to be reach as many people as possible.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    So the invasive species that we're talking about today is glassy winged sharpshooter, but there are continued threats to the California grape industry, not just glassy winged sharpshooter. This is the hot topic today. This is what we're all trying to address today because of the Costco introductions. But in the the past, we have dealt with European grapevine moth in which there was a quick response to be able to eradicate that insect. Eradication is not easy to achieve, but eradication was achieved with European grapevine moth.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    It was a concerted effort between all parties involved. Your ag commissioner's office, CDFA, UCANR, we all work together from different angles to be able to address this holistically. And in addition, every year I present on spotted lanternfly. And it's scary because every year I have to add more states to that list in which spotted lanternfly has been found in. And this is another invasive insect that can kill grapevines from feeding on it alone. There are very few things that can kill a grapevine from feeding alone.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    It does not transmit a pathogen to our knowledge at this time, although there is current research to see if it will transmit Xyella fastidiosa on the East Coast. And so it is important to be aware that there are a lot more out there. There are insects. With European grapevine moth, we weren't expecting that. It just arrived. And it landed in Napa of all places. So it's not the only insect out there that we might need to combat in the future. And with that, I would like to take any questions that you might have.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Dr. Kron, thanks. Thank you so much for both the comprehensive and thoroughly understandable presentation about some of the issues that we're facing here. I wonder if I could dial back to the to the front end of the presentation and the Costco tagging. You also mentioned the border tagging as well. Are there, do you see roles for the state? Or is it principally a federal issue? Or is it both of us? Or is it the counties? Like, where, how do we assure that we don't see that much, that big of a gap in our detection systems in the first place?

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Sure. So at UCANR, I am, I conduct research and educational outreach. This would be a better question answered by the ag commissioner's offices because they are a regulatory body, and they know what the rules are and where that gap is. I can give you my opinion, but it might not be as well versed as the ag commissioner themselves.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, she's, it looks like she's ready. So we'll get there in a bit.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I'll give it a shot.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Then okay. So on the red blotch issue, are you also, you're also engaged in that one as well. And so where the, where are we seeing that as a problem and how it what's the what's the history to this?

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    So grapevine red blotch is definitely an issue in grapevines in Northern California, in Napa and Sonoma County. It is an ongoing issue. It is different in that treehopper vectors a virus compared to a sharpshooter vectoring a bacterium. They're not exactly the same, but equivalent in that there is no cure for grapevine red blotch virus. Once a virus is in the grapevine, that grapevine is infected and needs to be robed.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    It is an ongoing issue because it doesn't kill the grapevines outright, but it reduces the quality of wine, which reduces your ability to sell that as, you know, a high price tag bottle of wine and ends up moving to bulk wine. Growers lose a lot of money because of that. We know what the insect vector is. There is still research underway to look to see if there's other insect vectors. There has not been any that have shown to be confirmed other than three cornered alfalfa hopper, Spissistilus festinus.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you. We probably won't hear this from Josh Rubin later, but who knows? You know, one of the, you know, we know that the industry because of some of the larger market issues that we may have more vines, more vines than we than are can be supported by the market. So can you help explain why, you know, losing a few vines to a couple of vectors is still a problem even if we have too many vines at once. If they just if, you know, instead of if someone's vines, you know, are destroyed by the sharpshooter, why is that, why is that a big deal? And what are the implications for the rest of the industry and their neighbors?

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Growers can only afford so much. At some point, they will go bust. They will not be able to remove that vineyard that has that infection. And what that means is it's a source for the insects to acquire whether it be grapevine red blotch virus or whether it be Xyella fastidiosa and move it to the neighbors and even further beyond. And so without the ability to manage those abandoned vineyards and without the grower being able to afford it, it is going to become an exasperated problem. It's not as easy as, oh, we have too many grapevines. It's okay if we lose a few. That's not really what would be going on.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So what you're describing, this is what I was trying to drive, is that the confluence of these two issues, the, you know, the demand weakness on the one end and the perhaps the desirability for there to be fewer vines, is not is, it is a problem, especially for those two things to be happening at once.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Because the industry is, for some folks, the industry is not capable of sort of dealing with the vines that are in that become infected with either the virus or the bacterium. Instead, they simply become abandoned, and then they become a become abandoned and then they become a nuisance and an accelerant on the vector moving to other vines and other properties.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Yes.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Okay. Alright. Thank you. Assembly Member.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I'm sitting here dumbfounded. You know what? I realized that we'd had the issue with Costco, and I was surprised it took a little bit of time that someone hadn't identified that before. When a product comes into any warehouse, well, particularly we'll just use Costco as example cause I'm sure this is not the only place this has happened. But who identifies, checks out the plants before they even come into the store? What organization does that? What agency does that? And, yeah. Do we have an... Oh, okay. I'll bug her in a minute.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    I will defer to the ag commissioner. This is their...

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Big time. But the other thing is, is, you know, we'd I was really upset because, one of my staff people brought in this little plant, and they bought the plant online, and it was an invasive species. And I said, how did you get that in here? First of all, and I'm concerned about if they're coming through the mail order or whatever, what else is coming through?

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So I'm sure we'll address that as well because it's something we we need to have a conversation on. One of our Assembly Members, Irwin, did the rule for us this year to see how we can prevent product coming in with invasive species and bugs and whatever else. So I'll let her do it. Thank you. Thank you. Your presentation was great. Appreciate it.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    One other question that's related to the science here. So when we dealt, when California dealt with the first invasion in the in the 90s, there's been a series of both technological and other control measures that weren't available to us in the same manner as they are today, CRISPR editing, other things that you're much more familiar about than I am. Are we are we better prepared to deploy some of those strategies today?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Is have our systems, have our governmental systems without impugning or plotting the counties at this point? Because we'll hear from Tracy Cleveland later. But are systems capable of deploying or making taking advantage of the technological improvements that we've seen in some of these dimensions since the 90s?

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    I'm not aware of this technological advances being used for Xylella fastidiosa and Pierce disease specifically. I am not aware of research in that specific combination of the two.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Okay. Alright. Well, Dr. Kron, thank you so much. Excellent, excellent start to the to the hearing. Really good scene setter for us and for our colleagues. So appreciate you joining us today.

  • Cindy Kron

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Well, next we're gonna proceed to, with all the foreshadowing that we've had up to this point. Now, it is time to hear from Tracy, who is the Agricultural Commissioner and the Sealer of Weights and Measures for Napa County. Tracy Cleveland, thank you so much for joining us, and please share with us your perspective.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Wonderful. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair and Committee Members. I'm Tracy Cleveland. Again, the Napa County Ag Commissioner and Sealer of Weights and Measures. Thank you for the opportunity to be here today and to speak. I'm very honored. So I'd like to start just by giving a brief introduction to ag in the US. I think everyone on this panel is very familiar. But it's always important to touch on, you know, agriculture in the United States, in California, and then in Napa to put it into perspective for you.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And then we can dive into glassy winged sharpshooter. So California is an agricultural powerhouse. I don't know how else to say it. In 2024, California was ranked number 1 in the US in cash receipts totaling 61.2 billion. California produces more than 400 commodities, and some of those commodities are almost exclusively grown here.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Nearly half of the country's vegetables and over three quarters of fruits and nuts come from California. So we're feeding Californians, we're feeding the nation, and we're feeding the world. In July, we released our 2025 Napa County crop report. No surprise that wine grapes are our number one commodity in Napa. And they were valued at over $968 million. So for close to 43,000 production acres, the two previous crop reports, 24 and '23, had Napa's wine grape crop valued at over 1 billion.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    So it's they're big numbers. When you think about agriculture and California, those two words should be synonymous. Now that you have the full picture of what's at stake, let's talk about GWSS, Pierce's disease, and the Costco, Fresno, and Texas nursery incidents that Dr. Kron touched on. So in Napa, over the course of four weeks, April 21 through May 21, based on shipping receipts, we received about 220 total grapevines.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Customer contact lists provided by Costco weeks later, indicate that a 110 of those 220 vines were sold to Napa residents. With help from the county, with help from industry, and our residents, really, we inspected and or destroyed approximately 175 vines. So that leaves some unaccounted for. We learned that some of those remaining vines were donated by Costco to food banks. They were destroyed by Costco directly, or they were traced by my team to adjacent counties and adjacent county Costco customers. Dr. Kron touched on the 24 counties that had receiving Costcos.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    What she left out is that there were 16 additional counties that do not have Costcos but still had their residents purchasing vines from adjacent neighboring Costcos and then bringing them home. So the total impact there was 40 counties. On the Texas nursery shipment side, 25 counties received material, 18 sold material before they were inspected. Napa happens to be one of the counties that were notified with enough time to inspect and then destroy without having anything sold. But again, it points to gaps in the program. So what are counties doing in response?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    What's the strategy? The general order of things includes containing the spread, statewide survey and detection, and rapid response. So containing the spread for counties involves our trace forward efforts. So impacted counties immediately began trace forward activities. We were trying to track down all of those unaccounted for vines within our communities. We issued press releases through our public information officers, our board of supervisors, our county executive officers, and then in other social media and media pathways and networks to get the messaging out.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And then once we had customer lists, we were able to go directly to the source. So ag staff were deployed to inspect plants at identified sites, confiscating vines as necessary, and then submitting suspect pest samples to CDFA for analysis and identification. The next part is that visual inspection and survey. At these residential sites, we also inspected the surrounding landscaped area. So it's the vine that's coming in, you inspect, you take off any samples, and then you look at everything.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Because now, those vines and those pests have been in the environment for a while. They could have moved off-site. Dr. Kron touched on the fact that there are over 300, 300 hosts. So that's a that's a big number. And so we were really focusing on looking for presence of glassy wing.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And then we also added detection traps to those areas as an additional way to monitor for GWSS. To date, Napa County added 271 traps to 152 additional sites. This is on top of our general glassy wing sharpshooter trapping program where we have 1,000 traps out out in the, in the world on an annual basis. And we had four lab confirmed viable egg masses taken from those vines that we inspected.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    So this the third and final is that rapid response. If multiple life stages of a breeding or a breeding population of GWSS is found, then CDFA works with those counties to begin those eradication efforts. And there's a, it's a long and kind of drawn out process. We go through our board. We do a proclamation of an emergency program.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    So we say rapid response, but it's not really as rapid as I think that it needs to be. Counties also maintain detection traps at high density and continue to conduct visual inspections of those areas. Eradication efforts also include targeted pesticide applications and biocontrol releases. Those efforts can take years depending on the size of the population and the location. Dr. Kron touched on some of the most recent eradication efforts.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    She mentioned six different counties. Prior to the Fresno nursery incident, existing eradication projects, not including those new six counties, included four counties, Solano, Stanislaus, El Dorado, and Santa Clara. Post Fresno nursery incident, we have treatments happening in, as she mentions, Shasta, an additional site in Stanislaus. There are detections, additional trapping and serving with rapid response plans happening for Contra Costa, Santa Barbara, San Mateo, three locations in Sacramento, and an additional location in Santa Clara. So it's a lot.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I have to state the obvious here, which is that we are looking at a tremendous amount of work and likely eradication efforts coming down the line with limited financial resources. So currently, our focus is those trace forwards and trapping and not eradication. But that has to be something that we're looking at. So when eradication efforts are triggered, a quarantine within a set area is established, and that restricts the movement of commodities and regulated materials outside of that area.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    So those costs can be significant to growers as well as local, state, and federal partners. If we look at European grapevine moth, we discovered it in Napa in 2009. We eradicated it in 2016. And over that seven year time span, in Napa alone, we spent 100 million to eradicate. So 50 million to growers and then 50 million to our state, local, and federal partners. So that, that's not sustainable.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    The emphasis should be on prevention. Counties at this point are uncertain if we will be made whole for our current activities. So we are left to make decisions about limited resources. So in Napa, I'm fortunate. I have support from the county CEO and our board of supervisors and industry.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I have the benefit of a local wine grape pest and disease control district. So Napa wine grape growers assess themselves willingly. They voted to do it. And those dollars are directed by that industry board of directors. And so they're spending money to enhance. And I say enhance, but really I mean backfill some of the underfunded state programs.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    They're also funding research efforts by our local UC viticulture advisor. They're supporting grower educational seminars and bio control efforts. And all of these efforts tie to pests like vine mealybug, red blotch, Pierce's disease, spotted lanternfly, and more. So I don't have the option of choosing to scale back my efforts to protect agriculture in Napa. The total economic impact locally of the wine and grape industry in Napa is 11.7 billion, providing 55,875 jobs in Napa.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Nearly three out of every four jobs in Napa County are connected directly or indirectly to wine and grapes, as indicated in the economic impact study commissioned by the Napa Valley Vintners. So before I conclude, I want to take a quick opportunity to introduce C3PA. C3PA is the California Pest Prevention Program Analysis. Say that three times really fast. This study was funded by CACASA, which is the California Agricultural Commissioner and Sealers Association, in partnership with CDFA and the University of California.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    It's a comprehensive 500 plus page report. So I didn't send it to you because it's 500 pages. But it examines strategies, tools, and funding required to modernize our pest prevention systems, allowing us to keep pace with today's challenges in agriculture, environmental stewardship, and biodiversity. The last analysis of this pest prevention system was completed in the late 90s. So, I mean, that's thirty years ago.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And a lot has changed since then. I think I heard trade routes and e commerce and through shipping facilities and parcel facilities. So there are a lot of additional pathways that are impacting ag and the environment and our economic landscape. So through C3PA, the intent is to provide a roadmap for a resilient pest prevention system that ensures California agriculture and our farms and our farmers continue to thrive while safeguarding our environment and natural resources. So there's more to come on that.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We should have an executive summary that we're working on that will be a much more condensed version with more numbers. But in conclusion, California agriculture, it feeds its residents. It feeds the nation. It feeds the world. So it's worthy of sustainable and adequate funding levels to support the continued existence of it, and to support our local farmers that engage in, in my opinion, one of the hardest jobs that exists. So thank you for your time and for your support.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So is it since the acronym seems almost perfected, is there any chance the analysis converts to an order of some kind? So we will get AC 3PO?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I wish I hope that's the hope.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's the hope.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    That would be wonderful.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yeah. I mean, I think that I mean, you highlighted just the immense effort and workload that's involved in this, always. And then you add on these pathways. Last the Assemblymember was saying which which we weren't doing in the 90s.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We weren't having plants delivered to our homes in a box with no, with no tag, no tagging or any other information whatsoever. In this particular incident, is it did Costco neglect to or maybe that's not true. I don't want to use any words that have legal meanings to them. But I mean, was it, was Costco expected to tag and didn't like where is the system?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Where's the failure?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    It wasn't Costco. The state has a nursery program, and it's run through the Pearson's Disease Control Program. So there's different types of of nursery programs that a grower or nursery can be a part of.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And there's three different programs, and I won't go into too much detail on them, but they sort of differ. So if you're in a generally infested area, then essentially you're mandated to have treatments. Sometimes you're dictated which products you can use. And then there might be an inspection of that treatment at the origin nursery, and then again at the receiving I say origin nursery origin county. And then again at the receiving county.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And then that's where the paperwork comes in. We call it a blue tag, which means it's coming from a potentially high risk area, and so it needs extra set of eyes. So the receiving county then prioritizes and goes and inspects. So in some variation of these programs, one requires very specific materials. One, you have the option of having materials.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And one of them, a county can witness the application, and then in another, they don't necessarily have to. But those shipments usually have to be noticed, so the receiving county has to receive notice. I think it's 24 hours in advance so that you know it's coming and you can assign your staff to inspect that material. So material. So, believe it or not, the Fresno nursery was there.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I don't understand how, but they're essentially not in a, in a what's considered an infested area. They're generally free from. Even though we know that that's clearly not the case because those plants were covered in glassy wing. So that definitely points to the fact that there are some holes in the system and the program, and there really needs to be an overhaul of what that nursery program looks like and what the program at the state level is.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I'm trying.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yeah. We I think there's a lot of work we can do to reevaluate and make them better.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So then if it is if there's a blue tag and it's coming to Costco in Napa, then you your team goes out and

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Every time.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And every time.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yes.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I mean, how many folks are on the I commissioner's team for this purpose?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    For Napa, I have full time staff of 30. They're all doing different things. Inspector wise, I have 13 inspectors, and then two, three Ag standard service workers. So my Ag standard service workers are specifically doing like trapping and GWSS inspections, and then I'll throw my inspectors into it as needed. So it's, it's a lot.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We split it usually up valley, down valley. And they just go all over the place all day long looking at plants coming into any nurseries, any landscape yards, anywhere. Even residents can call us and we'll come out and inspect plants if they're receiving them.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Does the maturity of the plant make a difference on the glassy winged sharpshooter going after it? I mean, you know, I've see fields right now rootstock, and that makes me nervous just thinking about all the rootstock that's going in right now. And will we find it there?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I don't think so. I'd probably defer to Doctor Cron, but I don't think so. Really, it does have a huge host list and kind of how we distinguish is if it has a big enough leaf for a glassy wing to lay an egg mass on, then it's probably a host. So lavender is not so much an issue. But, you know, certainly elephant ears and grapevines are, but I think they would have to be leafed out.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We look at grapevines too. So as vineyards are replanting, we're looking at those also. And we're looking for guis, really any pests and Vine Mealybug.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so what for you given your expertise, your experience in this area, and just the sheer amount of attention that you have to devote to it, I mean, do you feel like we're at a yellow alert, an orange alert or red alert? Like how I mean, this is always a problem, right? The threat of invasives and some kinds of invasives are always present in some way, which is why the County Commissioners are so important.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But how do you like what's your assessment or even your feeling about kind of where we're at today in terms your feeling about kind of where we're at today in terms of the level of concern that we should be having?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    If I would, if red is the worst, I would say red. I mean, we're because it's we're talking about glassy wing and Pierce disease today, but really, there are so many invasive pests. And we know that there are pathways that we are not covering. We have things coming in and out of the state that we're not able to inspect or look at. People are bringing things in over border stations.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    They are flying with them internationally, domestically. They're shipping them in the mail. There's a lot of, a lot of things that are happening that we need better oversight over. So I think some of my partners would say, oh, you know, we're doing okay and we're doing a good job, but we need to do more. I mean, that's the reality.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    They're getting in and it at a certain point, they will become established. And then when you talk about eradication instead of prevention, like common sense goes out the window, and so does any kind of reasonable budget.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright, so we are doing better but the threat scape is getting more intense and more extensive.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yes.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    At the same time.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yes. Yeah.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    County outpacing our ability to continue to improve and to get better at it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yes. Yeah. In like county and commit were well, the state in general, we're all struggling right with budgets and with maybe making cuts at each of our counties depending on what our board needs and is asking us to do. So we're doing more with less, and that's not sustainable.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Well, Commissioner Cleveland, I know you probably needed to be at Costco this afternoon, checking a couple things yourself just to keep up, to keep up with the backlog but we very much appreciate you taking the time to be with us and share your expertise with us.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So let's turn next to Josh Rubin, who's the Director of Sustainable Finance at the Bank of Montreal or BMOs. We'll be hearing about it, for the rest of the afternoon to share with us some some an economic lens on this situation. Welcome.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Absolutely. Thank you so much. Thank you for the committee for for having us. Yeah. And for those of you that don't know, you know, Bank of Montreal, of course acquired Bank of the West, just a few years ago.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So you may be more familiar, with that bank, which of course, now part of our operations. I'm in the state sustainable finance team, but as you probably know, you may have seen our, '24, '25, and '26, wine market reports that we've put out. So we have quite a large, wine and beverage book, including, Napa, Sonoma, and you know, bits of the Central Valley as well. So we really get a good listen, I think to what, growers and producers are facing right now.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, I won't dive too much into some of the less than thrilling economic details as far as the downturn is concerned, nor do I wanna steal any Michael's thunder here.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But yeah, obviously, an absolute shift, right? really driven by a decrease in consumer demand that's really reducing, total tons crushed, right? Total number of planted and bearing acres in California. And it really is, you know seismic. Right? Is perhaps, underestimates it. So if we're looking from, you know, a peak, wine grape crush in 2018 of 4.5, you know, millions approximate.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    We have a few different reports out there, million tons, down to 2.8 most recently in 2025. Right? So 40% reduction. So you can imagine how that reverberates. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    It's all being grown at some point, right? So if you do the math, you're missing around kinda 30% and that those are some estimates of how much fruit was actually left on the vine, last year, particularly in Sonoma County. So really big shift. Right? And as you can imagine, it's the it always hits the frontline producers the most. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Growers, winemakers. Right? Even by our own numbers, you see that total consumer spend increased to about a 120,000,000,000 right, in 2025. And they'll say, oh, that's great. That's an increase.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    That's about 5% over last year. But if you look at total inflation, right? which has really occurred kind of after that winery gate, if you will, it's really occurred at on premise and retail. The share going back to producers has actually shrunk. Right? And why is that so important, particularly when we're talking about invasive pests and glass winged sharpshooter in particular, that's you know, you gotta cut line somewhere.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? And unfortunately, pest control is always on the chopping block. You know, some listening to our, you know clients, you know, they've been able to get some pricing increases. Right? But it's pretty minimal.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So really what that the end result is, oh, I've gotta cut something. I gotta look at my operating budget and and find something there. And that's why and and we hit on it earlier, like the numbers of plants involved, you know, only a few plants here infected. Right? It may seem why do we care about that?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    That's so small. Right? But the potential for these to become such a large problem, both counties and statewide is huge. Right? Because you imagine that's just that easy line item to cut.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And really if we look at I'll kind of step back a little bit, because I'm gonna transition into this issue of okay. So we've removed those vines. Right? And a lot of removal is done correctly. You completely rip out all your grapevines.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? You try to pull as much residual grapevine material as possible, so you don't have much of a host left in that hopefully fallow field. It's very different if you just try to hit a pause button on a vineyard operation. Right? You really can't do that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    I know there's some very large growers that are claiming to be able to do that effectively, but you need maintenance sprays. Most importantly, when it comes to glasswing sharpshooter, you need trapping, and you need vineyard scouting. Right? Eventually, we'll have robots that do it all for us, but you still need people in the field looking for those problems.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So if that becomes a line item that you get rid of, you know, you can have the slippage where you're gonna get these pests, you know, just kind of passes our radar, you know, kind of through the filter in our vineyard and becomes a really big problem.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And that's where, you know, abandoned and on unmaintained vineyards become, I think and and you mentioned it earlier, Senator Cabaldon, about that intersection. Right? It's liken well, we got stress, and then, okay, we have glass and winged sharpshooter. And it's really that combination that could lead to alarm, some red said flags, potential disaster. You said red flag already.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So that's the only one. That's the only one. But if we look back to Temecula, right? and granted our tools were somewhat limited in that outbreak, part of what made it so bad was you had these huge reservoirs in citrus, untreated citrus groves right next to these producing grapevines.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So you imagine that now these kind of unfarmed, unmanaged vineyards are out there and can be a potential residuum, if you will, or yeah, for Pierce's disease and obviously the glass, I mean, sharpshooter.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So you know, I think that really becomes the threat and the danger and we really have to pay attention to that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So if you look at say, the last three years, hopefully, I'm not stealing your thunder here. You know, a 120,000 acres of grapevines pulled out statewide. You know, how much of that was done effectively that there's no residual grapevines left is a, is a big question. Right? And I think we need to allocate funds to study that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, I tried to find some estimations of how many abandoned or unmanaged vineyards. It's probably thousands to 10,000. It may not be a huge number, but it's a significant number, right? that we need to keep track of. I think, State Senate Bill 732 was a really good step in the right direction, right? that allows for fines to be kind of established for these unmanaged vineyards.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But if you look at the economics of it, you know, vineyard removal, of course, it depends on where you are.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    It could be 5,000 to 10,000 per acre. You know, the maximum penalty for SB 732, you know, if we even get to the penalty phase, everything should start as a conversation. Right? Is really 500 to 1,000. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So you almost have, you know, a 10 x number. That's very difficult for the grower, you know or the winery with the state vineyard to to overcome. Right? So it it may be, unfortunately, the last the path of least resistance. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Oh, just we'll put that vineyard on pause right now. Let's spray it a couple times, you know, and then we should be good. Right? That is what we really need to worry about. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And, you know, I think it's important to remember that ideally, you know, the wine grape grower doesn't have this burden themselves. Right? I think they're you know, and hopefully there's some funding, you know, allocated somewhere. We can certainly talk about it more for complete vineyard removal. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    If you have these vineyards in distress, there could be a change of ownership. I mean, some estimates are about we could have 30% of the California wine grape industry kind of shaken out or gobbled up or purchased by somebody else are not really active in the next two to three years. Right? So the potential, to have these unmanaged acres is huge. You know, having funds available for complete removal, inventory first then complete removal. You know, I think is incredibly important.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? Those are kind of the main points, you know that I wanted to, you know, talk about today because I see that as really the greatest risk. Right? The intersection, right? of this really essentially, the the grower is gonna have less money. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    They need to make a decision and and this pending threat, right? of residuum in the these unmanaged vineyards. You know, a much greater conversation, and this may be a bit out of scope, you know, for what we're talking about today is just kind of the future of land use overall. Right? Particularly in Napa, Sonoma, coastal counties, we can you know, what are our options if we're going out of grapevine? Ideally, we talked about fallow.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? But that's uneconomic for a while. You know, what are we gonna do that land? Is it available for groundwater recharge, you know conservation, energy production? Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    I guess you did warn me about that landmine, so I did step on that intentionally. But I think it's a really important part, and we really have to look at this not just as a shake up and a right sizing of the wine grape and the wine industry in California, but California agriculture as a whole. Right? And what crops come in. I mean, I went through the viticulture knowledge program here and actually studied Pierce's disease.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So I just saw the agave plants when I drove in. I thought that was so cool. But I mean, we're gonna have to switch to some crops. I think in the valley, it can be a little bit easier on the economics. But for coastal, Napa, and Sonoma, there there's only a few crops that we could switch to premium olives, floriculture.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? The list becomes pretty small. So I think there's a much larger question not for us to solve today is, yeah, how we manage these lands in the global framework of you know, California agriculture. And I'll stop there.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, you brought it up, and we're in Yolo County. Is Agave one of the it wasn't on Doctor Cron's list, but is that is that a host species as well for for the sharpshooter? Okay.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    It should not be, but we'll find out. We'll get back to you on that one.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Please tell me now.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, thanks. Thanks. Thanks so much for the I mean, I think this the picture that you're painting, is a very important one around the that this that we're experiencing this here with the glassy winged sharpshooter with respect to wine grapes and other and other crops.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But this is, it is a larger issue, that we're facing where this confluence of factors that may be causing more farmland and more cropland to go out of production at the same time that we're dealing with invasive species and the challenges to which that going out of production creates, accelerates the problem of the invasive species spreading.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We are definitely seeing that throughout the, throughout the state and not just with the with either wine and or with the sharpshooter certainly in the Lower San Joaquin Valley where water issues have contributed to lots of farmland going out of production, but also in many cases simply being followed with no management of species.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So this is a much bigger issue in a big respect. So thank you for pointing that out. We didn't really get to probe with Tracy Cleveland much, but I'm just maybe between the two, for counties that don't have the special district supported by the wine grape growers. How like how how are they grappling with this?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I mean, it came to mind just because Mr. Rubin was describing that, you know, the challenges for growers to contribute to on their own properties to be able to be as as vigilant as they would hope to be. You know, they share our collective interest in this but they're facing many, many challenges all at once. And so the special assessment in Napa provides a way out of that collective action dilemma to some extent.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But I'm wondering if you have some insight as to what is it, what does it mean in Sonoma and Yolo and other places where that where they may not have that tool?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I, you know, for Napa, it definitely provides a buffer, and then it's an opportunity for growers to direct how we use those dollars that they assess themselves. So it's it's a huge resource. We've had it for over twenty years. We actually just reauthorized it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We did a public hearing last month, so it should reauthorized for another five years. I do know in Sonoma, they were they have the same momentum and effort going on a couple of years ago, and they just could not get it off the ground. So growers were not voting to implement an assessment. And because you need a set amount of people to vote for it, I don't remember if it's two thirds of the grower industry, but they didn't wanna do it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    They didn't have the money to do it, and they weren't interested.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    So it didn't happen. So we're fortunate, and then other counties that don't have that to fall back on and to support some of the things they're trying to do, they definitely struggle. They struggle

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Yeah. That's, it's not your problem. It's not my problem. It's our problem. You know, you can't just put up exclusion netting around, Napa County and say, you know, we're covered.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? And that's the kind of really the what is so scary about this problem, right? is that you can't put up borders. You know, you can't put up blockers. You know, it really is a community it has to be a community based control effort, and those of course, don't end it at county, or even state lines.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And, just to kinda, you know, echo a little bit, you know, we've had you know, very successful growers that and wineries that are weathering this current storm.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, they see some of their premium bottles, you know, above 12, above $20 doing okay, you know, the lights at the end of the tub tunnel. And when asked, what are you most worried about? You know? And then standing around the field is like, well, I'm worried about that abandoned vineyard there and that abandoned vineyard right over there, and I'm in the middle of Napa Valley. You know?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    It's certainly something that our growers and our clients in particular are concerned about.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Oh, I'm glad you talked about abandoned vineyards, unmanaged vineyards. There's a cost to those. Right? And I think, doing policy and working with my colleagues, they don't put that piece into what's it cost to do work with the farmer.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Taking out of Vineyards are very expensive, and that's why you have these abandoned ones is that they just cannot do it.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And if they do, it's so expensive for them. And to recoup any of their money in the long run is really difficult. So, one of the things I think we have to acknowledge and we have acknowledged because we work in ag and we are Northern California, the, our colleagues don't understand it. And as many times as we try to educate and have them understand, I mean, this, this is preventative stuff that we could be doing, but there's a cost to that.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And nobody wants to hear that what the cost is and what's the cost to the consumer, to the farmer, etc. I'm lucky Trisha sitting up here in the top and she goes into all of our offices and educates so many of our colleagues.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And, you know, it's like talking to a wall is that, oh, that's not our problem. You know? And so I'm frustrated when I hear, and I know cause we farm, we just took out an orchard. It was so expensive to take it out, come back in, put new irrigation in, make sure the soil's ready to go, you know, put in the new trees and making sure the trees are healthy before they even get to the, to our, farm.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So there's all those costs that I think people just don't understand.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And, I think that's how we get these invasive species going from farm to farm when it's just sitting there. And, yeah, it's, it's definitely a terrible issue that we gotta figure out.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Absolutely. And we we heard some, pretty large numbers, right, of what the what's at stake. Right? But it's very hard to convince someone, you know, how much that avoided catastrophe that put that in the real dollars that you need to spend today. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    That that becomes a a very difficult blocker.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Yeah. How do you eradicate it? How do you take out the vines? Do you burn them? What happens then?

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    What do you do with the wire? I mean, there's so many things that people just don't get. So thank you for your presentation.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Oh, you're welcome.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    You open a can of worms with me.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yeah. I'm I'm I'm, this, this, conversation reminds me of the bill we just we just heard in the legislature, around, converting properties out of the Williamson Act and their protection for for agriculture into solar panels. And and we can debate, you know, we can debate the the value of that policy. But it it didn't it that that legislation did not have any requirement that you pull out the crop the the the the crops or the rootstock or anything.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    It just it so that you could simply convert the the land over, but there was no there's no accountability around around some of the decision.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And and that's why they under building the understanding and the fluency, especially for some of our, exclusively urban counterparts around how the system works, is so important.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So, I just wanted to ask you, Mister Rubin, you know, given if given given the Bank of the West is owned by Bank of Montreal, is is Quebec or are there other governments in, you know, in the world or in North America that are doing anything, you know, innovative or instructive that we might learn from here in California about how to how to address this?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Oh, yeah. That's you know, of course, you know, you know, ice wine. Of course, you have Okanogan Valley that's more similar to Napa. A lot of production, you just don't have the same pest and disease issues because of the overwinter freezes and everything. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So class winged sharpshooter, you know, won't be a a great you know, really won't be a problem for them anytime soon. I'm knocking on wood right now. An interesting, you know, prevention, very different industry, but also when I work in is controlled environment agriculture and the Canadian greenhouse system in Ontario and just the level of biosecurity involved in isolating different greenhouse grows. You know, they're they're dealing with tomato virus, which is threatening their entire industry, talking about crop switching, cucumbers, etcetera.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But but, really, that cost and investment in biosecurity is always top of the conversation.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? And really understanding the protect these local homegrown industries that have a great background and story and and putting some government funds behind that. That's certainly kind of in Ontario in particular is really good at.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. And and please let the folks of Ontario know that we we love fun. We love Ontario, everything about it and especially their name. So I appreciate you so much.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Absolutely. Let's turn

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    to our final panelist who's Michael Miller, the Director of Governmental Relations for the California Association of Wine Grape Growers. We've talked all about wine grape growers all day today. So now let's hear from their voice. Michael, welcome.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Thank you, Senator Cabaldon and some of the leaders, Aguiar-Curry. Before I begin, I do want to say, I appreciate you holding this hearing. You both represent a destination wide region in the world. Your community makes some of the finest wine in the world.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And these hearings are important. I appreciate you doing that. I also acknowledge the leaders of both your respective houses. They both represent wine regions, the Pro Tem and the Center speaker as well, and we know that they're engaged in these issues because what we're talking about today affects their constituents, affects your constituents. So we appreciate your leadership and engagement on this.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So I I can't think you're done for this. And I also wanna piggyback on one thing that you said, Senator Cabaldon. To our friends from Canada, please break more California wine. We we love our friends from Canada. Please please buy more California wine.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Alrighty.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So with

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    that, I'll begin. You've heard a lot of information today about the situation with Wes and other past. It's a very serious problem indeed. We know that for many growers and winemakers, they're struggling to stay in business and we know that many of them have already lost the struggle. And so what we're talking about today is important.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    As we wrap up the hearing, I'm gonna focus on potential solutions. I want to offer some ways forward in dealing with the situation. When we first address the Costco situation, we appreciate the $10,000,000 redirection of CDFA's Efund toward the ad commissioners on this program. It's very important. It's helpful.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    But that action also reduces money available for other things. For example, if Tracy finds that she has a problem with the Spotted Lantern Flyer District, the e Fund has now has minimal funds available for that. So we're really looking for additional state funding to deal with the issue. Our estimate is that there needs to be about $26,800,000 in new funding dedicated to deal with the Costco situation. The industry has already stepped up with new funding.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Additionally, we anticipate some federal support coming soon. We hope, we hope, we hope. But we also need some state funding and we're hopeful for that because we we recognize that there will be opportunities in January, maybe some early budget action or some additional things you can do. If there's a if there's a special session, maybe there's an opportunity there. I'm sorry.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    But we're hoping I appreciate that. That said, the second thing we need to deal with is the overall funding of the Pierce's disease control program in general. When the program was created twenty five years ago, it was built on the promise that you would have three tiers of financial support. You'd have federal support, state support, and industry support. The industry has contributed more than $90,000,000 since the inception of the program.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    At the federal level, there's ongoing funding every year. At the state level, that funding stopped during the Great Recession, and we recognize there was a budget crisis at the time, and hard decisions had to be made for only $5,000,000 of state money has been spent on this program. And that was a one time expenditure in 2017. And so in short, that is not sustainable. The lack of funding has resulted in reducing vital activities that are needed to control the the GUIS population.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And remember, this is a control program. It's not an eradication program. They're not trying to eradicate GUIS. They're trying to control it. So the activities to control it have to be funded, and that the and the lack of funding is how we wound up with risk in in Backyards in Fairfield.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    We have nine counties currently right now that have risk in in in populated residential areas, and five of those counties had a problem before the Costco situation. So the Costco situation doubled it, but we already had an existing problem. So what we're looking at to to to get to that three tiers of support again, I think the state needs to invest probably $10,000,000 annually in that program to make a sustainable again going forward.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And that's something that we can do going forward and should be a major part of the conversation. Third, we need to look at the potential causes for the spread of GWIS.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    While the last wing sharpshooter can fly a long distance, as Doctor. Kwan said, we know with the Costco situation, that didn't happen. They didn't fly from Texas to Fairfield. It didn't fly even from Fresno to Napa. It was on through the goods movement system and through shipping plants that were infested from then plants from nurseries.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So we need to look at that as a statewide issue and not just a local region by region issue because what happens in one place affects the entire state. The takeaway with the nurseries is that we need to know that the nurseries are already doing a lot of good things, and they still have a problem.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    If you've got a nursery that has spraying, they're monitoring, they're doing everything that's required, but the whole area around the nursery is infected with GISS, it is a real difficult problem to manage. Because when that that plant goes on that truck and that community is full of GISS, that truck is gonna take the GISS and send that elsewhere in the state.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So we need to look at how we can help the nurseries better manage that by probably spraying close to the nurseries and maintaining controlling that population to a to a level that we don't spread it across the state.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    With the Texas situation, we had 10 trucks come in from Texas. Three of those, only three were identified before they got here. That means that our border protection inspection stations aren't working the way we would like them to work. And I want to be clear, it's not their fault. Again, when you go back to the great recession, they lost funding.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    They were underfunded, they're understaffed, and they have a difficult job to do. But we've mentioned the glass the spotted lanternfly. That plant that that the insect when it comes to California is likely to come either one of two ways, either on the highway system or on the rail system. So the border inspection stations are vital to making sure that we, one, know when it gets here and try to block it down.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    We've already had shipments where they found the egg masses on an art fixture that was shipped to Sonoma.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And they caught it in time when we were lucky. We found dead spotted lanternfly on airship is because they're not very hardy. They get the cold weather in the plane and they die. But we know that there will be some truck, some RV or something is going to have an egg mass on it, that's going to come down Interstate 80. And if it's not inspected, and they don't catch it, it's going straight to Napa, Sonoma and other mine regions.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So we need to do something to make the inspection stations more effective. Regarding treatment methods, I want to suggest a couple of things we can do. One is somebody mentioned that how we can use robotics to better go through venues and identify things like leaf roll or mealy bug. When a robot can go through and scan the thing and come out with a full map of where the problem is, they can treat it better.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    They can identify specifically where the problem is going with another robot that was sprayed just where it's needed.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It'll just use the pest management tools that are needed and nothing more. And it controls it more effectively and timely and stops those spreads. Additionally,

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    when

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    you're looking at the tools that we use, we appreciate that the legislature has often come and asked to deal with managing those pest management tools. But recognize that every time that the legislature says you can't use this one or you can't use that one, you're taking one more tool out of the toolbox to grow us to deal with these pest issues. So we need to make sure that we have the tools necessary to do the job.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And finally, we talked about when you have the terrible situation, we have to rip out your Vineyard, right. And I appreciate the majority leaders comments.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It is a tough thing for people to do, but they have to do it in many cases. It's expensive. A big Vineyard, you have to. In other cases, however, it's a disease Vineyard. That grower can look at the tree assistance program and get some funding if they can, pull that out and deal with that issue.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    However, under the tree assistance program, you have to burn it. You can't mulch it. You can't chip it. You can't. It has to be burned or you lose that federal support.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    In the Central Valley, you can't burn anymore. It's prohibited now. So what they're doing is they're looking at things like curtain burners, right? High demand is not available. It's incredibly costly.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    What the, summer clean Valley Air Protection District did was to come up with some funding for those growers where they said, we will give you a grant to help cover the cost. That money dried up last summer. There's no money available for that. So what we've asked for the last two years, because we've seen this coming, is we've looked at the greenhouse gas reduction fund as a potential way of funding that effort.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    If the district can get some funding from the GGRF, and then use that to help growers deal with this issue, that'll be helpful because what happens when they can't deal with it is that a couple of things.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    One, you've got the video that's taken out and just left their piles of vineyard, that becomes a haven for rodents, as well as the disease that if it was a disease, a vineyard. And now that becomes a threat to the entire region. So those are some of the options that we have that I want to offer today. I guess going forward, I recognize how we got here and where we are.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    There are tough decisions that have to be made, but I think we have to deal with it.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It. Bringing that to the comments made from Doctor. Kron. Dollars 110,000,000 in crop loss annually, that's real. Tracy mentioned if it's green, yellow, red, we're at red.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    That's real. Josh used the word seismic. These are real problems. As as a former staffer in the capital, I know that people come to you all the time asking for the handout, asking for something, and they say the sky is falling. The sky is falling.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It's bad. It is really bad, and we need some help. Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Michael. Thank you. One, two. Do you have questions? Yes.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you. I appreciate that the just the long action list that we can take up together in the capital as well. So appreciate the specificity and the range of options that will help us maybe get to orange from red and are worth considering. There's one other, you know, the I happen to Chair the Technology Committee for the Senate.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we are anticipating the world is anticipating that some of the major technology companies, particularly the two AI the two AI labs and SpaceX may go public in the coming months or in the coming couple of years, which will mean potentially a large episodic windfalls of cash for common tax rolls.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we don't know when, we don't know how much. We actually don't even know who we'll be able to spend it because of the GAN limit. So that's a separate issue. But as most of the budget requests that I know that we both receive are ongoing permanent budget requests and we should and you've made a couple of you've identified a couple of those just now, which and those are important for us to consider.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But as you think it's also there's separately we should be thinking about if there are substantial one time revenues, what might we do that would attack the problem in a way that would avoid longer term costs?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So for example, if we're on if we are if we're trying to if eradication is possible in some of in some of these places and in some of these vectors, but it's too expensive, that but it's but it is feasible to to accomplish, then we ought to be thinking we we ought to ask ourselves the question at least, if we had enough money to fund eradication now or in the next year or two, would that and and we're able to do that at significant scale with more than one vector.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Could we could we not reduce the $10,000,000 that you're describing because that's chump change, but avoid potentially the pressure for even much larger than their costs on an ongoing basis. And so I would encourage our folks who have testified today and other experts to help us think that through. Eradication is not always an option for a variety of biological community concern and other reasons. So it's not the panacea.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And it may not eradication is just one of these dimensions where we might see, is there a big play that we might do that might and I by one time, I don't mean just once, but maybe twice, not not forever, that would allow us to to to really get at the to get at the root of the problem and also to do so in a way that doesn't require us to keep adding another $10,000,000 and another $10,000,000 and another $10,000,000 in permanent ongoing commitments.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So appreciate the list that you've given us, Michael, and would you just ask us to think about this additional dimension as well, to the extent we might make significant one time investments or short term investments that would eat at the basic problem itself.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Thank you. I'll commit to try to come up with some options for you to consider. Thank you so much.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And was it said here, I think about what does the eradication look like? You know, what does it really look like? And what what's most bang for our buck when we do that? And yeah. That

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    that's a great question. It's I'd say it's challenging to answer. We do know the PDCP program, the Pearson's Disease Control Program. We've had I think the stats are 18 quiz eradications throughout the state over many, many years. So we can do it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We're very good at it. But that was always one offs on a on a much smaller scale. So, yes, now we're facing more eradication efforts and needs that are popping up all over the place. It's a little bit like whack a mole. So I think we're kind of trying to figure out if that can work, how it will work.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And then playing the long game, you know, do we focus regionally? Do we focus on high wine growing regions? I mean, it's there's a lot of ifs, a lot of what ifs. If we leave it to be, you know, leave this county to become infested and then we just accept that it is, you know, how does that impact agriculture there? How does that impact the economy?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    How does that impact anything that's coming from that county to was free county. So there's a lot of things to think about. We can eradicate and we've done it, but never on this scale. So that's definitely a whole different part of the game.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And if I could add on to that too. I did read on some of the history about when the program was created, and they did look at statewide eradication of what that would look like. And the costs were huge. They just said that, that wasn't really manageable, but through this control program, it was more physically, fiscally recruited.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Yes. And then also, I mean, statewide eradication becomes a continual whack a mole, right? Because again, you're gonna have importation potentially from nurseries out of state. You know, there's always that risk. So, you know, I'd you know, I wouldn't wanna say that eradication is impossible.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But, yeah, it it certainly we can what is one thing for California to be very on top of it, very aggressive. But again, it's that we have to look at other Southeastern United States and and from those areas as well as an issue.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    It's it's looking at the costs eradication effort and then the continual management effort that's, like, happening in Temecula and other areas. So that you look at all of those parts. I I would space speaking for Napa, I am pushing for eradication. If it were to pop up in Napa, I don't think I have a choice at this point to to look outside of that. So I would push for that.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    If whether that's realistic or not, I don't know. But that's that's kind of where my head is at now. So I'm definitely thinking, long term and then a little more outside of the box. If we don't follow this traditional path of eradication, then then what can we do? What can I do ahead of what we normally do?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    If that makes sense.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    We have an incredible institution here at UC Davis. Hello, UC Davis. We need some help. Yeah. Just saying.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And kinda connected to the issue of whether eradication is is necessary. And Senator Kabald mentioned that earlier, you talked about CRISPR. Right? I mean, yeah, is there in most crops. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You can either well, I won't I won't say that word. But you can generally use resistance free dig, back crossbreeding, molecular techniques, right, to have resistance within your crop. Right? And very commonplace, you could set, oh, it's gonna take us fifteen years to get there. You know, PDR one, the resistance chain for Pierce's disease is actually comes from grapevines that evolved in in Mexico and Southeastern United States.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Like, oh, great. Let's stick it in everywhere, which would work in other crops. And wine grapes are so unique because we're attached to 800, you know, 1,100 year old clones that are mean everything. Right? And the genetics, it it's just a very, very different landscape.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So even if Pinot Noir looked the same, tasted the same, produced the same wine, If the public knew that there was other genetics that were brought in, it it just becomes a a different issue. And I just bring that up because it is it's great that there's that, ovaissance, lack of a better word to tradition. But other crops, you you don't really need to deal with that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, you can have a new cultivar come out every two to three years, and people are expecting that, but that's just not the, the at least the, California, Vitis vinifera based kind of wine grape landscape, if you will.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    If I can add to that too, there's been research here at UC Davis on this, Cornell, Oregon State, others were looking at how do we make the grapevine more resistant to Pierce's disease. And the PDGOS board has put quite a bit of funding into that research every year. It is a tough nut to crack as Josh said for a bunch of different reasons.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    But when they took $800,000 out of that research this year to deal with the Costco situation, that research is on hold a little bit because we have to deal with the emerging crisis. So it's a balancing act where limited resources you could do what you can.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yes. During the we were dealing with the glass wing sharp shooter of the first round, California's budget was structurally extremely different. California is the only I think it's the I think this is the case that's still the case. California is not just the only state. It's the only government state or national government on the planet, that has something akin to a $30,000,000,000 permanent deficit and years in which it has a 30 or $50,000,000,000 one time unexpected surplus.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's now a feature of our public finance system, and it has been since Facebook went public. Right? That's not new. I know. But I think, you know, especially those of us who've been around for a while, we keep thinking that's gonna stop, and we will be like any other government or company or nonprofit where we're mostly thinking about what to spend each year.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But our budget's not like that any longer. And and that open that's an enormous challenge for those of us that are trying to make a budget. But it also opens up a different set of a different box of solutions that is unlike what you might what you could imagine in Ontario or Mississippi or anywhere else.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so, you know, my my own view is it's incumbent on us to to at least consider those what would anywhere else be seen as moonshot plays, but here are actually quite possible if you just pick the right year. And and they and in some sense, they're more possible than how do we add $26,000,000 to CDFA every year?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's I think the personally, I think that's doable. But it is not. It is. It is as much of a challenge as in a year where we have a $20,000,000,000 IPO from from open a I and we're and we're like, well, could we spend $100,000,000 on erratic under an eradication program this year? That's actually a much simpler than $26,000,000 forever.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So we just so it's I'm simply encouraging, you know, researchers, innovators, creators, you know, advocates and others to about think about these these the opportunity set differently so that we can make sure that that if there you know, when there are these big dividends from some of these world changing economy changing technologies that that agriculture in particular is not left behind.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that that we're that we're assuring that we're tackling some of the we're tackling the red the the red crisis, not the communist one, but the red the red light crisis that the Right. That Joseph Cleveland has has outlined. So Thank you. Alright.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, thanks so much to to our to our panel. Extremely enlightening. Very much appreciated and very, very practical and actionable. Appreciate all your work, both for our hearing today, but also the work you're doing every day to tackle this and many other overlapping crises. We're now going to turn to public comment if we have any.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We're going to invite any members of the public to come forward, maybe line up at the center, and then we'll be taking public comment at the at the podium here where we first saw the dean of the law school. Welcome.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    Thank you. Good afternoon. Noelle Cremers with Wine Institute. Wine Institute represents California wineries. Really appreciate you holding this hearing this afternoon to delve deeply into the impacts of glassy winged sharpshooter and what can be done to help.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    California wineries, as we all know, are challenged right now, and this is an added challenge that they don't need to face. I wanna express appreciation for the recognition by the majority leader that there is a need to provide additional funding and to have a increasing number of eradications that we're gonna need to undertake. So I also wanted to follow-up on a point, that was raised earlier about the research needed and if there's opportunities for using new technologies to address, glassy winged sharpshooter and Pierce's disease.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    And the Pierce's disease, glassy winged sharpshooter board at CDFA, which is funded in part by industry, Mister Miller mentioned, over $90,000,000 since its inception for of industry dollars. But without state funding that limits what's available for research.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    And then with the glassy winged sharpshooter impact, we've had industry funding that's had to go to fund that, which takes away from research. So we're just with with the limited resources we have available, we're not able to address the concern that is present today. There's also a need, as was mentioned before, about a, having a broader discussion about invasive species and the methods for preventing their introduction.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    Because everyone wins when we prevent pests and diseases from being introduced because that means we don't have to spray additional, pesticides to treat those new pests. And as we all know, California is a leader in sustainability.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    And new pests and diseases make it even more difficult for grape growers trying to grow their grapes sustainably and maintain their certification. So there are a whole host of reasons why we should have the bigger conversation, one, about funding, but two, about, making sure that we're improving our methods for keeping, pests, and new pests and diseases out and how we handle and respond to them when they are present. So thank you again, for holding this hearing today, and I look forward to continued discussions.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Welcome.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    Thank you. Good afternoon. I'm Tricia Geringer with Agricultural Council of California and the California California Association of Nurseries. Thank you very much to the Chair and majority leader for this hearing today and appreciate all the comments made. Our council represents vineyards, almonds, pistachios, peaches, tomatoes, citrus, and more.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    And my own family grows wine grapes and raisins, my mom and my brother in the San Joaquin Valley. So this is incredibly personal issue and very important statewide issue, of course. Thanks to, the Chair and the majority leader for the 10,000,000 in the e fund, and for the recognition all throughout the summer to push for funding. We greatly appreciate that. I am here today to speak on behalf of our members from the California Association of Nurseries.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    As has been said, they are very much on the front lines as others have expressed. And they're not just on the front lines of GWIS, but also many other pests. For many of these family owned nurseries that we represent, they feel that they're in crisis now. They are working around the clock to address with to control with and be so much part of the solution.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    But they are in some cases as family owned businesses spending 6 figures of their own funding in order to fight this really critical emergency situation.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    We are working alongside our friends at the California Association of Wine Grape Growers and others in agriculture to support the 26,800,000 as mentioned by Mister Miller. And we, of course, are in regular communication with multiple ad commissioners and, working with CDFA officials on a better strategy going forward, just, to have better coordination in the future. Our members are absolutely committed to developing a stronger framework.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    I know the commissioner mentioned that and toward moving moving toward more meaningful improvements to the quiz and Pearson's programs to be more effective and to collaborate on additional state funding and better pathways as the Chair mentioned and more opportunities as a sector that's one of those front lines of defense. We know that that's crucial.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    So appreciate the time, and thanks for the hearing today. Look forward to continuing to work with you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you. Right. Good afternoon. We're gonna go back back to our last hearing in that.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    That's right. No. No.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    No. Crack one of our the oldies but goodies.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Yes. That's right.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    That's right. I did have the pleasure of presenting to the board in in Napa the last the last meeting. But since you're here today at UC Davis, and our name has come up many times throughout, obviously, thank you for being here and excited to hear the conversation today. You talked about moonshots and and this and these possibilities. And I would just like to to raise, you know, the the point that I think one of our greatest places to invest is in our university systems.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    This is where these changing technologies have have come from. And if we're thinking about applying things like CRISPR, I can tell you we have faculty here at UC Davis that are ready to do that with no funding to be able to do it. So all of these issues that we're talking about today are kind of encapsulated in that. Our CSU system, our UC system, just amazing entities to be able to tackle these problems.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Not only do we generate new knowledge, we generate the people who then go out into that industry and lead that industry and are problem solvers in the industry.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Cindy's example of that. We mentioned another alum of the program. So if there is a moonshot, I think it's going to come, you know, from a place like a UC that does that. What we've seen instead in the recent past and PDGUS board has been mentioned many times today, to note that that board now funds research on seven different pests and diseases. It's not just Pierce's disease.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    And that's because all of these diseases are emerging, and there's no money elsewhere to do it. So PDG WIS is taking it upon itself to tackle red blotch and mealybug. I can tell you in conversations with people who have gone through that process of applying there, they're they're presented with the difficult task of deciding where their limited budget is going. And what has happened in most recent years is they decide to fund one grant on each disease.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    And and that means only one project is getting funded out of maybe tens that are being being asked for.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    So, again, just echoing that, you know, we are here at UC Davis. We have a long history with this industry. We're very proud of that history, and we're ready to help. And if there are investments in those moonshots, we'll gladly take on that challenge, if if provided the opportunity. So thank you.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. One looks like we have one final public comment.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    Senator Cabaldin and leader Aguiar-Curry, Chris Reardon, California Farm Bureau, and I wanted to thank you for this hearing today. I think the one alarm bell, not only besides this issue, that sort of goes off in our head is two years ago, we were dealing with the Oregon fruit fly in the Inland Empire. You know, some years ago, we were dealing I think before both you got here, we're dealing with the light brown apple Moth Issue, particularly in the Bay Area.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    Our fear is what if we have a couple of things going on simultaneously here? What do we do?

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    I I appreciate your your discussion about one time monies, but, boy, what if we have, you know, numerous infestations that we're dealing with? That's what concerns us. And we are very concerned about, you know, what we've done for the last fifteen years, but I'm not sure we can just depend on that one time money.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    So I think it's a great idea, but it seems to me we have to invest, you know, serious monies as we look down the future just not only on one issue and one infestation, but numerous infestations at the same time. Particularly with the transportation challenges with rail and and trucks and and border station challenges, etcetera.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    So that was that's the one thing I would indicate is that I think we better be prepared for more than just one. Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you. Agreed. So the the, you know, we're we're we, try to fund moonshots for cancer, but we still work on the annual flu vaccines. It's not it's not they're not one or the other.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    They're tackling, you know, different dimensions of the same of the same problem at once. So I appreciate, the the panel, all the public comment that we've heard today. It's been extremely instructive.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I think, you know, just to return to the very beginning of the of our conversation and the majority leader this majority leader made this point at the outset as well, that though, you know, even even the scale of some of these investments, both long one time and ongoing, compared to the total value of these crops and all of the of the jobs and the towns and the communities that depend on them, it really does pale in comparison.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that's why we've been advocating so strongly to try to to to make those the necessary baseline investments for exactly the kinds of initiatives and just ongoing work for detection, for intervention, for prevention, and everything else that has been described today.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So I think the case has been made very clearly once again on that. And I know we will be taking this back as well as other members of the committee who are who will be watching the tape of today, back to the capital to to renew the battle.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I know several of you several of you will be with us in in making sure that we try to get those those resources, but also get the attention and the focus that these issues and the and the very real threats pose. This it happens to be the fiftieth anniversary of the judgment of Paris, which, was the moment when when California, shocked the world with the with the the quality, the excitement, the innovation of California's wine in the first place.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And it's a reminder that our our position in the world of wine is as as as much a vibe as anything.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    The wine like many other is is one is just one of those products, one of those crops, one of those things that is as much about the feeling and the vibe as it is about the chemistry. And it is why one it is one of the reasons why it's absolutely critical that we that we protect the reputation of California wine grapes and California's wine industry as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we've seen other places in the world that have not recovered, from from invasive species, both because of its impact on production, but also because it affected the the global reputation of those places. And we're not gonna let that happen in California. We cannot.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    As has been said, we're talking about one of California's most significant industries just in sheer economics. I know for both the majority leader and me, for the communities that we represent, it is it is the essential lifeblood. It is the defining characteristic of so many of our of our communities, but also for California as a state. The the, wine, in particular is, in in some sense, the definition of California's cache, its success, its class, its sophistication, its creativity, around the world.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that matters in California's soft power, our economic power, and our in our in our ability to continue leading to lead in so many other ways.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so, we we will remain focused on this, to be sure, in the budget, legislatively and in in in following up on today's hearing. In addition to future hearings of this select committee, I also want to invite folks to follow this. We will be in the budget subcommittee that oversees CDFA in the Senate side, which I happen to serve on.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We'll be doing additional follow-up work in the spring as we consider the governor's budget proposal to assure that the investments that we're talking about today are funded and that the appropriate priority is being placed on them as well. So thank you so much for today's feedback for the clarion call, for the for the for the rich amount of information that you provided, and the and the very, very actionable policy ideas as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And let me invite our majority leader Assemblymember Agar Kuri to make any final comments.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Thank you all for being here today. The thing I'd like to say is that, we will have a new legislature pretty soon in November, and there's a lot of new faces that will not understand what what we do in agriculture. And so I invite you to go into their offices, share your stories, tell them what's important in California, what's important in the industry. They need to be educated.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    There's a lot that have no idea what we do and the importance of agriculture in Northern California, throughout the state, obviously.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So I just wanna encourage you to meet up with our agriculture. We have an agriculture committee in both houses, and there'll be committee hearings, maybe select committee hearings. So thank you very much for coming today. We don't give up very easily. We work hard on trying to make sure that the economy in California stays thriving.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So thank you all for coming today.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. And again, thanks to UC Davis for hosting us, and I also wanna give particular thanks to Nicole Koe Nelson, who's sitting to my my left. She's been here the whole time, but she's the the staff that supports this select committee and who has been in contact with many of the folks that are here today. But she's the expert. She helps to make sure that these hearings get translated into legislative and budget action as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So thanks to Nicole. Thanks to each of you. And with that, the select committee on California's wine industry is adjourned.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Good afternoon. We're gonna call to order the select the Senate Select Committee on California's wine industry. And welcome everyone to UC Davis for our hearing: members of the public, our distinguished panelists and experts, and particularly I want to acknowledge and thank my colleague, the majority leader of the California State and the Assembly member for this amazing district, which includes Yolo and, and Napa, and Lake, and Colusa Counties.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And Sonoma.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And Sonoma County as well, overlapping with half of my district as well. So it's, it's always a great honor to have Assemblymember Aguiar-Curry with us, and she has been extremely active this year in advancing legislation and budget, budget items in order to support California's wine industry. So it's in a special it's a special treat to have her here in her own district. And I also wanna thank Doctor Jessica Berg, the dean of the UC Davis School of Law, and the entire UC Davis team for generously hosting us here at King Hall.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Jessica Berg, the Dean of the UC Davis School of Law, and the entire UC Davis team for generously hosting us here at King Hall.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I'd like to invite Dean Berg actually to to make a few opening remarks. Thanks again for having us.

  • Jessica Berg

    Person

    Alright. Good afternoon and welcome. As you noted, I'm Jessica Berg, the dean here at the UC Davis School of Law, and we're so very pleased to host this Senate committee hearing to discuss California's wine industry. For over a hundred and forty years, the University of California Davis has played a pivotal role in advancing the California wine industry. In 1880, the California legislature instructed the regions of the University of California to establish a program providing for instruction and research in viticulture and enology.

  • Jessica Berg

    Person

    The current department engages in cutting-edge research and educational outreach, facilitating a partnership between the University of California and the Table Grape Raisin and Wine Industries. Our where we focus on the policy side of things, we have courses in wine law and related fields and even a student wine law society. We view our proximity of Sacramento as a positive and continue to look for ways to establish and expand our connections.

  • Jessica Berg

    Person

    Thank you for coming to King Hall, to UC Davis, and I look forward to continuing the discussion about how we can further strengthen our ties with the capital. Thank you.

  • Jessica Berg

    Person

    You're welcome.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Dean Berg, thank you so much to to restate what what you said. We wouldn't be here today if it weren't for UC Davis. And not only because we're in this wonderful facility here at King Hall, but the, the success, the quality, the resilience, the economic impact, the joy of California wine, it owes so much throughout its history to the scientists, the economists, the creative folks here at UC Davis.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And, and, and so we couldn't be more proud to be, be here today and to hear from folks who I know several of our panelists are alumni of UC Davis as well. And that that, that impact that contribution to the success of the industry and of California's unique world position in competitiveness in wine, owes so much to UC Davis.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So thank you again for having us. We're here today, although we're we're excited to be at UC Davis; we're here because the wine industry in California is battling on so many fronts. At our last hearing in, in Napa, Napa Valley College, we talked about a lot of the economic and market trends that the industry is facing and how we might address them both as, as the state government but as California as an entire community.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But it also faces challenges from the natural world, whether, whether naturally occurring or not, including the impacts of climate change and successive waves of invasive species, pests, and disease that have been the story of why not just here in California, but around the world for decades. The rediscovery of the glassy-ringed sharpshooter earlier this year illustrates just how dynamic this challenge has become in this part of California in particular.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    The this invasive species is a vector for Pierce's disease, which already cost California wine growers an estimated 48 million dollars a year. The senator for Temecula, who is a member of this committee, knows this situation quite well as, as many of our colleagues throughout Southern California and the and the San Joaquin Valley do as well. But the, the threat is statewide, for reasons that we will hear later today, and so must the solutions be. Grapevine red blotch is another growing threat.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    It's a virus that can significantly diminish fruit quality and yield.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And because there's no cure, once a vine is infected, red blotch underscores the importance of early detection, clean nurseries, stock, and coordinated efforts to manage the insects that spread it and to have effective detection and rapid response. So even so, a in its wine industry, a long and storied history of resilience and prosperity through challenges just like this.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And meeting these challenges will require tenacity, partnership, Gary Curry and myself, members of the select committee, including the president of the California State Senate who was trying to join us by, by Zoom. We could there, there is no Zoom today, but this is an issue that is of great importance to Senator Monique Lamone, the president of the Senate who represents Santa Barbara and Central Coast, the Central Coast wine industry as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    This is a top priority for the legislature and I know for the governor as well as it is for so many Californians.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I'd like to invite Assemblymember Aguiar-Curry to make any remarks that she would she would like, and again to thank her for, her steadfast leadership on behalf of the industry, bringing science and nature based solutions to so many public policy, challenges in the state, drawing often around, research or practical, work in the field that is happening right here at UC Davis to applying them to California public policy programs all over the place.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But both of us have been working hard to both focus state government and the legislature on the over on the overarching challenges that the wine industry face. And then we have each been carrying big and small pieces of legislation to try to address the, the I'm not gonna say death because we are alive and well- but the challenge of 1,000 cuts that the wine industry faces in California every day.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so, Assemblymember Aguiar-Curry, thanks again for being a part of today, and I'd like to invite you to make any opening remarks.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you, Senator Cabaldon. Thank you for having us here today. As we know, this is a really important conversation. The problem this is a problem that's impacting the wine industry, just not in my district, but all up and down the state of California.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And so I'm here to listen, and to hopefully we can find out some solutions. The glassy-winged structure may be a small bug, but boy, it's a threat that poses anything but small. I farm. My brothers and I farm, and we know what it costs when you get some kind of invasive species.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    But here, we have, in the grape industry, we have hard our farmers and growers work hard to protect our crops, their livelihoods, and we need to do everything we can do to stay ahead of the the pest.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    We know early detection matters. Trapping, tracing where the pest has traveled, getting ahead of the new detections can make the difference between a manageable problem and a much bigger one. We secured 10 million dollars for the commissioners, but it's not new funding. That's why I asked for funding in the budget to help CDFA and our counties respond now. I'd much rather be spending my time today to contain this problem than wait until it spreads and cost California farmers and taxpayers many more, many more dollars.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And we need to think beyond this year- not just today, but beyond this year, have a vision. CDFA estimates we may need about 5,000,000 per year over the next three years to expand trapping, surveys, and outreach. If we let this widespread infestation take hold, the eradication cost could be far higher. So we need to start talking about this now so we can plan for this in future budgets.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And when I say now, we've been looking at this for a while, and I feel like we go on deaf ears.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    At the end of the day, this is about protecting California agriculture, our vineyards, our citrus, our orchards, our farm workers, and the communities that depend on them. I'm grateful for all of you to be here today. I'm ready to listen, to learn, and work together to make sure we can get in front of this before it gets any worse. And thank you, Senator.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, Assemblymember Aguiar-Curry. It is a it is a, we have we have a lot of work to do here today. And so we wanna and we wanna make sure we get it right, and that we focus the, the state of California on, on both glassy-winged sharpshooter and red box disease and similar invasive species issues that we're all gonna be concerned about. So let's get started with our panel and start learning and, and moving on to action.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that we're going to begin by inviting Doctor Cindy Kron with the National the North Coast Area Integrated Pest Management Advisor to give us the big picture overview and some of the recent, findings, challenges, issues and some of the policies informed by our past successes and identify species of concern.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Doctor Kron, for thank you for being with us.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Thank you so much. Okay. Good afternoon, Chair and committee members. I will repeat them. My name is Cindy Kron, and I'm the North Coast Integrated Pest Management Advisor.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    I advise for insect pests and invasive species that affect commercial grapes, walnuts, pears, and olives in Napa, Sonoma, Lake, and Mendocino Counties. Today, I'm here to open up, this conversation and address gossiping sharpshooter introductions in Northern California and their potential impacts on the grape industry. So this started with a nursery in Fresno, area that delivered grapevines to Northern California Costco's in 24 counties, in Northern California between April 21 and May 21 without the proper hold tags.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    So what that means is that the nursery is responsible for putting a hold tag on shipments being delivered out of counties. And what that indicates to the Costco workers is I see a hold tag.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    I contact my local ad commissioner. They come down. They do an inspection, and that inspection happens before it's sold on the on the show floor. Without that

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    delivered to these 24 counties, it would have been nice if it was earlier, but luckily, there came a point in which a worker in Sonoma County at Costco got a shipment of grapefines, didn't have a hold tag, and was like, wow, this is weird. So they called the AG commissioner's office because they have a close relationship with the AG commissioner, and they know that in the past they've had these hold tags and they're not supposed to hold the the product before being sold.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    hold tag, for a month, shipments were being

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    They called the commissioner's office in Sonoma County and asked, hey. We got this shipment. Do you wanna come down and inspect?

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    And they were, yes. We do. We wanna come down and inspect. And they came down to inspect the the shipment and found all life stages of glass of wings sharpshooter. So that is eggs, nymphs, and adults on grapevines being sold on the show floor.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    This started the whole process of looking at where else have you shipped your grapevines, for how long has this happened, and going back and tracing, to discover that it actually occurred for a whole month from 24 counties. So in addition, So in addition, a nursery in Texas sent 10 trucks of desert willow and elephant ears. Again, two Costco locations but this time in 18 counties between June 24 and July 3.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    When entering into California, they passed a CDFA station, and only three of those trucks were given hold tags. That means seven trucks entered without hold tags.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Luckily, this was caught quickly, but desert willow was sold without being inspected. And when desert willow was inspected, they found glass tubing sharpshooter eggs on that plant material. In addition, in Sacramento, they found eggs of another sharpshooter called the broad headed sharpshooter. This insect is not in the state of California. It would be considered a quarantine pest, and it could also vector Xylella fastidiosa that causes Pierce's disease just like glassy winged sharpshooter.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    So in addition, since that point, CDFA, during a CDFA briefing on August 12, they have announced that Glasserwing sharpshooter fines in six counties, Shasta, Sacramento, Santa Barbara, Santa Clara, Stanislaus, and Contra Costa. I have not received an update from CDFA since then, so I don't know what has progressed and and any more details other than, the findings in those counties. So glasaming sharpshooter, it vector Xylella Fastidiosa, which is a bacterium that causes Pierce's disease.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    This bacterium enters the plant in the xylem and it multiplies, and it blocks the transport of water and dissolve nutrients upward from the roots. And what that looks like in the vineyard when you see PD and signs of PD is water stress of grape vines, leaf scorch, shriveled fruits, and eventually death of the grapevine in one to three years after the initial infection.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Currently, we have no cure for this bacterium. And once it enters into the xylem, there is nothing we can do other than rogue that grapevine. But if that grapevine is not rogue, it is a source of inoculum for our other sharpshooters that can acquire by feeding and move it to uninfected grapevines. So we have native sharpshooters that vector Xylella Fastidiosa. We have blue green sharpshooter, green sharpshooter, red headed sharpshooter, willow sharpshooter.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    We also have the meadow spittlebug, up in Northern California. So why are we concerned about just another sharpshooter, right? Glassy winged sharpshooter, why does it really matter? And why it matters is because glassy winged sharpshooter is not like the other sharpshooters. They are not equal.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    They are not the same thing. And the reason being is let's sharp shooters, as it goes. Where our native sharpshooters live in the riparian area, they move into neighboring grapevines that are near the riparian area and they move back into the riparian area. They do not move across the landscape. So the areas in which we have disease flare up are the same areas year after year because of this relationship.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    When you have blossoming sharp shooter that can fly over a quarter mile and it continues to fly, it does not return back to a certain area, it will transmit this bacterium landscape. Another difference is that it's considerably larger. It's half an inch. It is only it's about twice the size of our native sharpshooters. And with that, it's a voracious feeder.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    It ingests a lot of xylem. It feeds on a lot more grapevines than our native sharpshooters. And this can exponentially increase the rate of vine to vine spread of PD during a single season. It also feeds lower on the shoots in summer. Our native blue green sharpshooter, which is our main vector in the North Coast, feeds on the green, very succulent shoot tips.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    And if they feed in springtime, that bacterium will travel into the permanent wood for a persistent infection the following year. But if they feed anytime from June on, there's not enough time for that bacterium to get to the permanent wood before pruning happens in winter. So it's not a persistent infection. There's a small window in which the xylella is transmitted that becomes a persistent Pierce's disease infection with our native sharpshooters.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    But with glassy wing sharpshooter, it feeds lower on that shoot below where the pruning cuts are.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    It enters into the permanent wood and it also is able to feed lower in summer time. So it continues. It has the whole season to transmit this bacterium. And in addition, it also feeds on one to two year old grapevines during dormancy. Our native sharpshooters do not feed on the dormant wood, but this glass winged sharpshooter can.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    And so it's able to transmit back this bacterium at times in which our native sharpshooters don't do it. So this sharp shooter, glass winged sharpshooter, has over 300 different host species that span over agricultural, urban, and native environments. We cannot limit the host of this insect because no matter where it goes, it will find a place to feed.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Some of the crop hosts that are affected and that we have in the Northern California area are grapevines, citrus, olive, almonds, stone fruit, avocados, Fig, blackberry, apple, pomegranate, pistachio, pear, Persimmon, walnut, and that is not a full list of agricultural crops. Some of the ornamentals are crepe myrtle, oleander, hibiscus, bougainvillea, boxwood, privet, study of nineteen ninety eight to 2000 in which they had the outbreak of Pierce's disease that devastated the Temecula wine region after the introduction of Glaserwing sharpshooter.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    It is approximated that 30 to 60% of grapevines were destroyed or removed due to this infection in order to combat, the spread of this disease in a very short period of time. So we've dealt with this before in California, but we haven't dealt with it up here in the North Coast. There is a CDFA 2025 economic impact study in which the cost of Pierce's disease to California is $110,000,000 a year with 48,000,000 of that born by the grape growers themselves.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    If class of being sharpshooter becomes established in Northern California, it is estimated by this study that the cost to growers alone will more than double to a $104,000,000 annually at a time that the grape industry is really struggling, at the time in which the grape industry does not have the money for this. And so with UCNR, we've responded by submitting a rapid response grant two days ago.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    I am P I on it's a NEFA grant to able to address some of the needs for extension needs. We are not a regulatory body, but we educate. And with education, we can help prevent establishment. And so this is addressing urban, nursery, master gardener education, and outreach, and commercial grape industry workshops to teach hands on identification using actual specimens of insects, of showing eggs, different instars of nymphs and adults.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    They can see with a microscope in person so that they can become familiar enough that if they see it in the field, they know what they're looking at.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
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    They know that they need to then report it and then how to report it. It also this ground will include developing a degree day model tool for growers to use, trapping supplies, and Spanish translated materials, which is very much needed Because our growers that are out in the field, we speak all languages, and it's very important that this information is able to be reach as many people as possible.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    So the invasive species that we're talking about today is glassy winged sharpshooter, but there are continued threats to the California grape industry, not just glassy winged sharpshooter. This is the hot topic today. This is what we're all trying to address today because of the Costco introductions.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    But in the the past, we have dealt with European grapeVine Moth in which there was a quick response to be able to eradicate that insect. Eradication is not easy to achieve, but eradication was achieved with European grape Vine Moth. It was a concerted effort between all parties involved. Your commissioner's office, CDFA, UCANR, we all work together from different angles to be able

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    And in addition, spotted

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    to address this holistically.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    lanternfly

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    has been found in. In which spotted lanternfly has been found in. And this is another invasive insect that can kill grapevines from feeding on it alone. There are very few things that can kill a find from feeding on it alone. There are very few things that can kill a grapevine from feeding alone.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    It does not transmit a pathogen to our knowledge at this time, although there is current research to see if it will transmit Xylella fastidiosa on the East Coast. And so it is important to be aware that there are a lot more out there. There are insects. With European grapevine moth, we weren't expecting that. It just arrived.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    And it landed in Napa of all places. So it's not the only insect out there that we might need to combat in the future. And with that, I would like to take any questions that you might

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    have. Doctor. Prawn, thanks. Thank you so much for both the comprehensive and thoroughly understandable presentation about about some of the issues that we're facing here. I I wonder if I could dial back to the to the front end of the presentation and, the Costco tagging.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    You also mentioned the border tagging as well. Are there do you see roles for the state? Or is it principally a federal issue? Or or is it both of us? Or is it the counties?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Like, where how do we assure that we don't see that much that big of a gap in our detection systems in the first place?

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Sure. So at UC ANR, I am I conduct research and educational outreach. This would be a better question answered by the Ag Commissioner's Offices because they are a regulatory body, and they know what the rules are and where that gap is. I can give you my opinion, but it might not be as well versed as the ad commissioner themselves.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, she's it looks like she's ready. So we're we're we'll we'll get there and

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    I'll give it a shot.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Then okay. So on the the red botch issue, are you also you're also engaged in in that one as well. And so where the where where are we seeing that as a problem and and how it what's the what's the history to this?

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    So grapevine rep lodge is definitely an issue, in in grapevines in Northern California, in in Napa and Sonoma County. It is an ongoing issue. It is different in that treehopper vectors a virus compared to a sharpshooter vectoring a bacterium. They're not exactly the same, but equivalent in that there is no cure for grapevine red blotch virus. Once a virus is in the grapevine, that that grapevine is infected and needs to be robed.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    It is an ongoing issue because it doesn't kill the grapevines outright, but it reduces the quality of wine, which reduces your ability to sell that as, you know, a high price tag bottle of wine and ends up moving to bulk wine. Growers lose a lot of money because of that. We know what the insect vector is. There is still research underway to look to see if there's other insect vectors. There has not been confirmed other than three cornered alfalfa hopper, spicisylus faecimus.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you. I we we, we probably won't hear this from Josh Rubin later, but but who knows? You know, one of the you know, we we know that the industry because of some of the larger market issues that that we may have more vine more more vines than than we than are can be supported by the market.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So can you help explain why why, you know, losing a few vines to a couple of vectors is is is still a problem even if we have too many vines at once. If they just if, you know, instead of if if someone's vines, you know, are are just are are destroyed by the sharpshooter, why is that why is that a big deal?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And and what what are the implications for the rest of the industry and their neighbors?

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Growers can only afford so much. At some point, they will go bust. They will not be able to remove that vineyard that has that infection. And what that means is it's a source for the insects to acquire whether it be grapevine red blotch virus or whether it be Xylella fastidiosa and move it to the neighbors, and even further beyond. And so without the ability to manage those abandoned vineyards and without the grower being able to afford it, it is going to become an exasperated problem.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    It's not as easy as, oh, we have too many great fines. It's okay if we lose lose a few. That's not really what would be going on.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So what you're describing, this is what I was trying to drive, is that the the the confluence of these two issues, the the, you know, the the demand weakness on the one end and and the the the perhaps the desirability for there to be fewer vines, is not is, it is a problem, especially for those two things to be happening at once because, the industry can't is for some folks, the industry is not capable of sort of dealing with the vines that are in that become infected with either the the virus or the back or or the bacterium.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Instead, they simply become abandoned, and then they become a become abandoned and then they become a nuisance and a and a and a and a an accelerant on the vector moving to other other other binds and other properties.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Yes.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Okay. Alright. Thank you. Assembly member?

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I'm sitting here dumbfounded. You know what? I realized that we'd had the issue with Costco and I was surprised it took a little bit of time that someone hadn't identified that before. When a product comes into any warehouse, well, particularly we'll just use Costco as example, cause I'm sure this is not the only place this has happened, but who identifies checks out the plants before they even come into the store? What organization does that?

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    What agency does that? And, yeah. Do we have an oh, okay. I'll bug them in a minute.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    I will defer to the ad commissioner. This is their

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    big time. But the other thing is, is, you know, we'd I was really upset because, one of my, staff people brought in this little plant, and they bought the plant online, and it was an invasive species. And I said, how did you get that in here? First of all, and I'm concerned about if they're coming through the mail order or whatever, what else is coming through? So I'm sure we'll address that as well because it's something we we need to have a conversation on.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    One of our, Assembly members, Erwin, did the rule for us this year to see how we can prevent product coming in with invasive species and plan bugs and whatever else. So, so I'll let her do it. Thank you. Thank you. Your presentation was great.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    One one other question that's related to the science here. So when when we dealt when California dealt with the the the first invasion in the in the 90s, there's been a series of both technological and other control measures that weren't available to us in the same manner as they are today, CRISPR editing, other things that you're much more familiar about than I am. Are we are we better prepared to deploy some of those strategies today?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Is have our systems have our governmental systems without impuning or or or plotting the counties at this point? Because we'll we'll hear from Tracy Cleveland Later.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But our systems capable of of of, deploying or making taking advantage of the technological improvements that we've seen in some of these dimensions since the nineties?

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    I'm not aware of this technological advances being used for Xylella fastidiosa and Pierce disease specifically. I am not aware of research in that specific combination of the two.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Okay. Alright. Well, Doctor. Vaughn, thank you so much.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Excellent, excellent start to the to the hearing. Really good scene setter for for for for us and for our colleagues. So appreciate you joining us today.

  • Unidentified Speaker 003
    ID Pending

    Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Well, next we're gonna proceed to, with all the foreshadowing that we've had up to this point. Now, it is time to hear from from from Tracy who is the agricultural commissioner and and the sealer of weights and measures for Napa County. Tracy Cleveland, thank you so much for for joining us, and and please share with us your perspective.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    Wonderful. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair and committee members. I'm Tracy Cleveland. Again, the Napa County Ag Commissioner and sealer of weights and measures.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    Thank you for the opportunity to be here today and to speak. I'm very honored. So I'd like to start just by giving a brief introduction to AG in The US. I think everyone on this panel is very familiar. But it's always important to touch on, you know, agriculture in The United States, in California, and then in Napa to put it into perspective for you.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    And then we can dive into glassy winged sharpshooter. So California is an agricultural powerhouse. I don't know how else to say it. In 2024, California was ranked number 1 in The US in cash receipts totaling 61,200,000,000. California produces more than 400 commodities, and some of those commodities are almost exclusively grown here.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    Nearly half of the country's vegetables and over three quarters of fruits and nuts come from California. So we're feeding Californians, we're feeding the nation, and we're feeding the world. In July, we released our 2025 Napa County crop report. And they were valued at over $968,000,000. So for close to 43,000 production acres, the two previous crop reports, '24 and '23, had Napa's wine grape crop valued at over 1,000,000,000.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    So it's they're big numbers. When you think about agriculture and California, those two words should be synonymous. Now that you have the full picture of what's at stake, let's talk about Gwyss, Pierce's disease, and the Costco Fresno and Texas nursery incidents that Doctor. Kron touched on. So in Napa, over the course of four weeks, April 21 through May 21, based on shipping receipts, we received about 200 and tote two twenty total grapevines.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    Customer contact list provided by Costco weeks later, indicate that a 110 of those 220 vines were sold to Napa residents. With help from the county, with help from industry, and our residents, really, we inspected and or destroyed approximately 175 vines. So that leaves some unaccounted for. Remaining vines were donated by Costco to food banks. They were destroyed by Costco directly, or they were traced by my team to adjacent counties, an adjacent county Costco customer.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    What she left out is that there were 16 additional counties that do not have Costco's but still had their residents purchasing vines from adjacent neighboring Costco's and then bringing them home. So the total impact there was 40 counties. On the Texas nursery shipment side, 25 counties received material, 18 sold material before they were inspected. Napa happens to be one of the counties that program. So what are counties doing in response?

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    What's The general order of things includes containing the spread, statewide survey and detection and rapid response. So contain containing the spread for counties involves our trace forward efforts. So impacted counties immediately began Trace Forward activities. We were trying to track down all of those unaccounted for vines within our communities. We issued press releases through our public information officers, our board of supervisors, our county executive officers, and then in other social media and media pathways and networks to get the messaging out.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    And then once we had customer list, we were able to go directly to the source. So Ag staff were deployed to inspect plants, at identified sites, pest samples to CDFA for analysis and identification. The next part is that visual inspection and survey. At these residential sites, we also inspected the surrounding landscaped area. So it's the vine that's coming in, you inspect, you take off any samples, and then you look at everything.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    Because now, those vines and those pests have been in the environment for a while. They could have moved off-site. Doctor. Kron touched on the fact that there are over three hundred three hundred hosts. So that's a that's a big number.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    And so we were really focusing on looking for presence of glassy wing. And then we also added detection traps to those areas as an additional way to monitor for GWSS. To date, Napa County added two seventy one traps to 152 additional sites. This is on top of our general glassy wing sharpshooter trapping program where we have a thousand traps out out in the, in the world on an annual basis. And we had four lab confirmed viable egg masses taken from those finds that we inspected.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    So this the third and final is that rapid response. If multiple life stages of a breeding or a breeding population of GWS is found, then CVFA works with those counties to to begin those eradication efforts. And there's a it's a long and kind of drawn out process. We go through our board. We do a proclamation of an emergency program.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    So we say rapid response, but it's not really as rapid as I think that it needs to be. Counties also maintain detection traps at high density and continue to conduct visual inspections of those areas. Pesticide applications and biocontrol releases. Those efforts can take years, depending on the size of the population and, the location. Doctor Kron touched on some of the most recent eradication efforts.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    She mentioned six different counties. Prior to the Fresno nursery incident, existing eradication projects, not including those new six counties, included four counties, Solano, Stan El Dorado, and Santa Clara. Post Fresno nursery incident, we have treat treatments happening in, as she mentions, Shasta, an additional site in Stanislaus. There are detections, additional trapping and serving with rapid response plans happening for Contra Costa, Santa Barbara, San Mateo, three locations in Sacramento, and an additional location in Santa Clara. So it's it's a lot.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    State the obvious here, which is that we are looking at a tremendous amount of work, and likely eradication efforts coming down the line, with limited financial resources. So currently, our focus is those trace forwards, and trapping, and not eradication. But that has to be something that we're looking at. So when eradication efforts are triggered, a quarantine within a set area is established, and that restricts the movement of commodities, outside of that area.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    So those costs can be significant to growers as well as local state and federal partners.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    If we look at European grapevine moth, we discovered it in Napa in 2009. We eradicated it in 2016. And over that seven year time span, in Napa alone, we spent a 100,000,000 to eradicate. So 50,000,000 to growers and then 50,000,000 to our state, local, and federal partners. So that, that's not sustainable.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    The emphasis should be on prevention. Counties at this point are uncertain if we will be made whole for our current activities. So we are left to make decisions about limited resources. So in Napa, I'm fortunate. I have support from the county CEO and our board of supervisors and industry.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    I have the benefit of a local wine grape pest and disease control district. So Napa wine grape growers

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    do it. And those dollars are And those dollars are directed by that industry board of directors. And so they're spending money to enhance, and I say enhance, but really I mean backfill. Some of the the the underfunded state programs. They're also funding research efforts by our local UC Viticulture advisor.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    assessed themselves willingly. They voted to

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    They're supporting grower educational seminars and bio control efforts. And all of these efforts tie to pests like Vine Mealybug, red blotch, Pierce's disease, spotted lanternfly, and more. So I don't have the option of choosing to scale back, my efforts to protect agriculture and Napa. The total economic impact locally of the wine and grape industry in Napa is 11,700,000,000, providing 55,875 jobs in Napa.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    Nearly three out of every four jobs in Napa County are connected directly or indirectly to wine and grapes, as indicated in the economic impact study commissioned by the Napa Valley Vintners.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    So before I conclude, I want to take a quick opportunity to introduce c3p. Prevention Program Analysis. Say that three times really fast. This study was funded by CACASA, which is the California Agricultural Commissioner and Sealers Association in partnership with CDFA and the University of California. It's a comprehensive 500 plus page report.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    So I didn't send it to you because it's 500 pages. But it examines strategies, tools and funding required to modernize our pest prevention systems, challenges in agriculture, environmental stewardship, and biodiversity. The last analysis of this pest prevention system was completed in the late 90s. So, I mean, that's thirty years ago. And a lot has changed since then.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    I think I heard trade routes and e commerce and and through shipping facilities and parcel facilities. So there are a lot of additional pathways that are impacting Ag and the environment and our economic landscape. So through c three p a, the intent is to provide a roadmap for a resilient pest prevention system that ensures California agriculture and our farms and our farmers continue to thrive while safeguarding our environment and natural resources. So there's more to come on that.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    We should have an executive summary that we're working on that will be a much more condensed version with more numbers.

  • Unidentified Speaker 004
    ID Pending

    But in conclusion, California agriculture, it feeds its residents. It feeds the nation. It feeds the world. So it's worthy of sustainable and adequate funding levels to support the continued existence of it, and to support our local farmers that engage in, in my opinion, one of the hardest jobs that exists. So thank you for your time and for your support.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So is it since the acronym seems almost perfected, is there any chance the analysis converts to an order of some kind? So we will get AC 3 p o?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I wish I hope that's the hope.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's the hope.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    That would be wonderful.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think that I mean, you you you highlighted just the immense effort and workload that's involved in in this, always. And then you add on these pathways. Last the Assemblymember was saying which which we weren't doing in the 90s.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We weren't having plants delivered to our homes in a box with no with no tag, no no tagging or any other information whatsoever. In this particular incident, is it did did Costco neglect to or maybe that's not true. I don't want to use any words that have legal meanings to them. But I mean, was it Cox was Costco expected to tag and didn't like where where where is the system?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Where's the failure? Yeah. It wasn't Costco. The state has a nursery program, and it's run through the Pearson's disease control program. So there's different types of of nursery programs that a grower or nursery can be a part of.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And there's three different programs, and I won't go into too much detail on them, but they sort of differ. So if you're in a generally infested area, then essentially you're mandated to have treatments. Sometimes you're dictated which products you can use. And then there might be an inspection of that treatment at the origin nursery, and then again at the receiving I say origin nursery origin county. And then again at the receiving county.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And then that's where the paperwork comes in. We call it a blue tag, which means it's coming from a potentially high risk area, and so it needs extra set of eyes. So the receiving county then prioritizes and goes and inspects. So in some variation of these programs, one requires very specific materials. One, you have the option of having materials.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And one of them, a county can witness the application, and then in another, they don't necessarily have to. But those shipments usually have to be noticed, so the receiving county has to receive notice. I think it's twenty four hours in advance so that you know it's coming and you can assign your staff to inspect that material. So, material. So, believe it or not, the Fresno nursery was there.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I don't understand how, but they're essentially not in a in a what's considered an infested area. They're generally free from. Even though we know that that's clearly not the case because those plants were covered in glassy wing. So that definitely points to the fact that there are some holes in the system and the program, and there really needs to be an overhaul of what that nursery program looks like and, what the program at the state level is.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    That was gentle.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I'm trying.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I do so. Don't blow up. Okay.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yeah. We I think there's a lot of work we can do to reevaluate and make them better.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So then if it is if there's a blue tag and it's coming to Costco in in Napa, then you your team goes out and and

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Every time.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And every time.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yes.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And, I mean, how many folks are on the eye commissioner's team for this purpose?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    For Napa, I have full time staff of 30. They're all doing different things. Inspector wise, I have 13 inspectors, and then two, three AG standard service workers. So my AG standard service workers are specifically doing like trapping and GWSS inspections, and then I'll throw my inspectors into it as needed. So it's it's a lot.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We split it usually up valley, down valley. And they just go all over the place all day long looking at plants coming into any nurseries, any landscape yards, anywhere. Even residents can call us and we'll come out and inspect plants if they're receiving them.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Does the mature does the maturity of the plant make a difference on the glassy winged sharpshooter going after it? I mean, you know, I've see fields right now, rootstock, and that makes me nervous just thinking about all the rootstock that's going in right now. And will we find it there?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    I I don't think so. I'd probably defer to doctor Kron, but I don't think so. Really, it does have a huge host list and kind of how we distinguish is if it has a big enough leaf for a glassy wing to lay an egg mass on, then it's probably a host. So lavender is not so much an issue. But, you know, certainly elephant ears and grapevines are, but I think they would have to be leafed out.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Okay. We look at grapevines too. So as as, vineyards are replanting, we're looking at those also. And we're looking for guis, really any pests and Vine Mealybug.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Okay. Yeah. And so what what for for you given your your expertise, your experience in this area, and just the sheer amount of of attention that you have to devote to it, I mean, do you do you feel like we're at a yellow alert, an orange alert or red alert? Like how I mean, this is always a problem, right? The threat of invasives and some kinds of invasives are always present in some way, which is why the county commissioners are so important.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But how do you like what's your assessment or even your feeling about kind of where we're at today in terms your feeling about kind of where we're at today in terms of the level of of concern that we should be having?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    If I would if red is the worst, I would say red. I mean, we're because it's we're talking about glassy wing and Pierce disease today, but really, there are so many invasive pests. And we know that there are pathways that we are not covering. We we have things coming in and out of the state that we're not able to inspect or look at. People are bringing things in over border stations.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    They are flying with them internationally, domestically. They're shipping them in the mail. There's a lot of a lot of things that are happening that we need better oversight over. So I think some of my partners would say, oh, you know, we're we're doing okay and we're doing a good job, but we need to do more. I mean, that's the reality.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    They're they're getting in and it at a certain point, they will become established. And then when you talk about eradication instead of prevention, like, common sense goes out the window, and so does any kind of reasonable budget.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright, so we are doing better, but the threat scape is getting more intense and more extensive. Yes, the same time.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yes. Yeah.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    County outpacing our ability to continue to improve and to get better at it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Yes. Yeah. I in like county and commit were well, the state in general, we're all struggling right with budgets and with, maybe making cuts at each of our counties depending on what our board needs and is asking us to do. So we're doing more with less, and, that's not sustainable.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Well, Commissioner Cleveland, I know you probably needed to be at Costco this afternoon, checking a couple things yourself just to keep up to keep up with the backlog, but we very much appreciate you taking the time to be with us and share your expertise with us.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So let's turn next to Josh Rubin, who's the Director of Sustainable Finance at the Bank of Montreal or BMOs. We'll be hearing about it, for the rest of the afternoon to share with us some some an economic lens on this situation. Welcome.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Absolutely. Thank you so much. Thank you for the committee for for having us. Yeah. And and for those of you that don't know, you know, Bank of Montreal, of course, acquired Bank of the West, just a few years ago.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So you may be more familiar, with with with, that bank, which, of course, now part of our operations. I'm in the state sustainable finance team, but as you probably know, you may have seen our, '24, '25, and '26, wine market reports that we've put out. So we have quite a large, wine and beverage book, including, Napa, Sonoma, and, you know, bits of the Central Valley as well. So we really get a good, listen, I think, to what, growers and producers are facing right now.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, I won't dive too much into some of the less than thrilling economic details as far as the downturn is concerned, nor do I wanna steal any Michael's thunder here.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But, yeah, obviously, an absolute shift, right, really driven by a decrease in consumer demand that's really reducing, total tons crushed, right, total number of planted and bearing acres in California. And it really is, you know, seismic. Right? Is perhaps, underestimates it. So if we're looking from, you know, a a peak, wine grape crush in, 2018 of four point five, you know, millions approximate.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    We have a few different reports out there, million tons, down to 2.8 most recently in 2025. Right? So 40% reduction. So you can imagine how that reverberates. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So if you do the math, you're you're missing around kinda 30% and that those are some estimates of how much fruit was actually left on the vine, last year, particularly in Sonoma County. So really big shift. Right? And as you can imagine, it's the it always hits the frontline producers the most. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Growers, winemakers. Right? Even by our own numbers, you see that total consumer spend increased to about 120,000,000,000 right in in 2025. And they'll say, oh, that's great. That's an increase.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    That's about 5% over last year. But if you look at total inflation, right, which has really occurred kind of after that winery gate, if you will, it's really occurred at on premise and retail. The share going back to producers has actually shrunk. Right? And why is that so important, particularly when we're talking about invasive pests and glass winged sharpshooter in particular, that's you know, you gotta cut line somewhere.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? And, unfortunately, pest control is always on the chopping block. You know, some listening to our, you know, clients, you know, they've been able to get some pricing increases. Right? But it's pretty minimal.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So really what that the end result is, oh, I've gotta cut something. I gotta look at my operating budget and and find something there. And that's why and and we hit on it earlier, like, like, the numbers of plants involved, you know, only a few plants here infected. Right? It may seem why do we care about that?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    That's so small. Right? But the the potential for these to become such a large problem, both counties and statewide is huge. Right? Because you imagine that's just that that easy line item to cut.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And and really if we look at I'll kind of step back a little bit, because I'm gonna transition into this issue of okay. So we've we've removed those vines. Right? And a lot of removal is done correctly. You completely rip out all your grapevines.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? You try to pull as much residual grapevine material as possible, so you don't have much of a host left in that hopefully fallow field. It's very different if you just try to hit a pause button on a vineyard operation. Right? You really can't do that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    I know there's some very large growers that are claiming to be able to do that effectively, but you need maintenance sprays. Most importantly, when it comes to glasswing sharpshooter, you need trapping, and you need vineyard scouting. Right? Eventually, we'll have robots that do it all for us, but you still need people in the field looking for those problems.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So if that becomes a line item that you get rid of, you know, you can have the slippage where you're gonna get these these pests, you know, just kind of passes our our our radar, you know, kind of through the filter in our vineyard and becomes a really big problem.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And that's where, you know, abandoned and on unmaintained vineyards become, I think, and and you mentioned it earlier, Senator Kibaldin, about that intersection. Right? It's like, well, we got stress, and then, okay, we have glass and winged sharpshooter. And it's really that combination that could lead to alarm, some red said flags, potential disaster. You said red flag already.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So that's the only one. That's the only one. But if we look back to Temecula, right, and granted our our tools were somewhat limited in that outbreak, part of what made it so bad was you had these huge reservoirs in citrus, Untreated citrus groves right next to these producing grapevines. So you imagine that now these kind of Un Unfarmed, Unmanaged vineyards are out there and can be a potential, residuum, if you will, or, yeah, for Pierce's disease and obviously the glass, I mean, sharpshooter.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So, you know, I think that really becomes the threat and the danger, and and we really have to pay attention to that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So if you look at, say, the last three years, hopefully, I'm not stealing your thunder here. You know, a 120,000 acres of grapevines pulled out statewide. You know, how much of that was done effectively that there's no residual grapevines left is a is a big question. Right? And I think we need to allocate funds to study that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, I I tried to find some estimations of how many abandoned or unmanaged vineyards. It's probably thousands to 10,000. It may not be a huge number, but it's a significant number, right, that we need to keep track of. I I think, state Senate bill 732 was a really good step in the right direction, right, that allows for fines to be, be, kind of established for these unmanaged vineyards.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But if you look at the economics of it, you know, vineyard removal, of course, it depends on where you are.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    It could be 5,000 to 10,000 per acre. You know, the maximum penalty for SB 732, you know, if we even get to the penalty phase, everything should start as a conversation. Right? Is really 500 to 1,000. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So you almost have, you know, a 10 number. That's very difficult for the grower, you know, or the winery with the state vineyard to to overcome. Right? So it it may be, unfortunately, the last the, the path of least resistance. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Oh, just we'll put that vineyard on pause right now. Let's spray it a couple times, you know, and then we should be good. Right? That that is what we really need to worry about. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And, you know, I think it's important to remember that ideally, you

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    know, the

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    wine grape grower doesn't have this burden themselves. Right? I think they're you know, and hopefully there's some funding, you know, allocated somewhere. We can certainly talk about it more for complete vineyard removal. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    If you have these vineyards in distress, there could be a change of ownership. I mean, some estimates are about we could have 30% of the California wine grape industry kind of shaken out or or gobbled up or purchased by somebody else are not really active in the next two to three years. Right? So the potential, to have these unmanaged acres is huge. You know, having funds available for complete removal, inventory first then complete removal, incredibly important.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? Those are kind of the main points, you know, that I wanted to, you know, talk about today because I see that as really the the greatest risk. Right? The intersection, right, of this really, essentially, the the grower is gonna have less money. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    They need to make a decision and and this pending threat, right, of residuum in the these unmanaged vineyards. You know, a much greater conversation, and this may be a bit out of scope, you know, for what we're talking about today is just kind of the the the future of land use overall. Right? Particularly in Napa, Sonoma, coastal counties, we can you know, what are our options if we're going out of grapevine? Ideally, we talked about fallow.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? But that's uneconomic for a while. You know, what are we gonna do that land? Is it available for groundwater recharge, you know, conservation, energy production? Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    I guess you did warn me about that landmine, so I did step on that intentionally. But I I think it's a a really important part, and we really have to look at this not just as a shake up and a right sizing of the wine grape and the wine industry in California, but California agriculture as a whole. Right? And what crops come in. I mean, I I went through the viticulture knowledge program here and actually studied Pierce's disease.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So I just saw the agave plants when I drove in. I thought that was so cool. But, I mean, we're gonna have to switch to some crops. I think in the valley, it can be a little bit easier on the economics. But for coastal, Napa, and Sonoma, there there's only a few crops that we could switch to premium olives, floriculture.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? The list becomes pretty small. So I think there's a much larger question not for us to solve today is, yeah, how we manage these lands in the global framework of, you know, California agriculture. And I'll I'll stop there.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, you brought it up, and we're in Yolo County. Is Agave one of the it wasn't on doctor Kron's list, but is that is that a host species as well for for the sharpshooter? Okay. It should

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    not be, but we'll find out. We'll get back to you on that one.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Please tell me no.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, thanks. Thanks. Thanks so much for the I mean, I think this the the picture that you're painting, is a very important one around the that this that we're experiencing this here with the glassy winged sharpshooter with with respect to wine grapes and other and other crops.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But this is it is a larger issue, that we're facing where this confluence of factors that may be causing more more, more farmland and more cropland to go out of production at the same time that we're dealing with, invasive species and the challenges to which that going out of production creates, accelerates the problem of the invasive species spreading.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We are definitely seeing that throughout the throughout the state and not just with the with either wine and or with the sharpshooter certainly in the in the in the Lower San Joaquin Valley where water issues have contributed to lots of farmland going out of production, but also in many cases simply being followed with no management of species.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So this is a much bigger issue in a big respect. So thank you for pointing that out. We didn't really get to probe with Tracy Cleveland much, but I'm just maybe between the two, for counties that don't have the special district supported by the wine grape growers. How like how how are they grappling with this? I mean, it came to mind just because Mr.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Rubin was describing that, you know, the challenges for for growers to contribute to on their own properties to be able to be as as vigilant as they would hope to be. You know, they share our collective interest in this, but they're facing many, many challenges all at once. And so the special assessment in Napa provides a way out of that collective action dilemma to some extent.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But I'm wondering if you have some insight as to what is it what does it mean in Sonoma and Yolo and other places where that where they may may not have that

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    tool? I Aye, you know, for Napa, it definitely provides a buffer, and then it's an opportunity for growers to direct how we use those dollars that they assess themselves. So it's it's a huge resource. We've had it for over twenty years. We actually just reauthorized it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We did a public hearing last month, so it should reauthorized for another five years. I do know in Sonoma, they were they have the same momentum and effort going on a couple of years ago, and they just could not get it off the ground. So growers were not voting to to implement an assessment. And because you need a set amount of people to vote for it, I don't remember if it's two thirds of the grower industry, but they they didn't wanna do it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    They didn't have the money to do it, and they weren't interested.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    So it didn't happen. So we're fortunate, and then other counties that don't have that to fall back on and to support some of the things they're trying to do, they definitely struggle. They

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Yeah. That's, it's not your problem. It's not my problem. It's our problem. You know, you can't just put up exclusion netting around, Napa County and say, you know, we're covered.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? And that and that's the kind of really the the what is so scary about this problem, right, is that you can't put up borders. You know, you can't put up blockers. You know, it really is a community it has to be a community based control effort, and those, of course, don't end it at county, or even state lines.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And, just to kinda, you know, echo a little bit, you know, we've had, you know, very successful growers that and and wineries that are weathering this current storm.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, they see some of their premium bottles, you know, above 12, above $20 doing okay, you know, the lights at the end of the tub tunnel. And when asked, what are you most worried about? You know? And then standing around the field is like, well, I'm worried about that abandoned vineyard there and that abandoned vineyard right over there, and I'm in the middle of Napa Valley. You know?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    It's, certainly something that our our growers and our clients in particular are concerned about.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Oh, I'm glad you talked about abandoned, vineyards, unmanaged vineyards. There's a cost to those. Right? And I think, doing policy and working with my colleagues, they don't put that piece into what's it cost to do work with the farmer.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Oh, I'm glad you talked about abandoned, vineyards, unmanaged vineyards. There's a cost to those. Right? And I think, doing policy and working with my colleagues, they don't put that piece into what's it cost to do work with the farmer.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Taking out of Vineyards are very expensive, and that's why you have these abandoned ones is that they just cannot do it.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And if they do, it's so expensive for them and to recoup any of their money in the long run is really difficult. So, one of the things I think we have to acknowledge and we have acknowledged because we work in ag and we are Northern California, the, our colleagues don't understand it. And as many times as we try to educate and have them understand, I mean, this, this is preventative stuff that we could be doing, but there's a cost to that.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And nobody wants to hear that what the cost is and what it's a cost to the consumer, to the farmer, etcetera. I'm lucky Trisha sitting up here in the top and she goes into all of our offices and educates so many of our colleagues.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And, you know, it's like talking to a wall is that, oh, that's not our problem. You know? And so I'm frustrated when I hear, and I know cause we farm, we just took out an orchard. It was so expensive to take it out, come back in, put new irrigation in, make sure the soil's ready to go, you know, put in the new trees and making sure the trees are healthy before they even get to the, to our, farm.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So there's all those costs that I think people just don't understand.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    And, I think that's how we get these invasive species going from farm to farm when it's just sitting there. And, yeah, it's, it's definitely a terrible issue that we gotta figure out.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Absolutely. And we we heard some, pretty large numbers, right, of what the what's at stake. Right? But it's very hard to convince someone, you know, how much that avoided catastrophe that put that in the real dollars that you need to spend today. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    That that becomes a a very difficult blocker.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Yeah. How do you eradicate it? How do you take out the vines? Do you burn them? What happens then?

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    What do you do with the wire? I mean, there's so many things that people just don't get. So thank you for your presentation.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Oh, you're welcome.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    You open a can of worms with me.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yeah. I'm I'm I'm, this, this, conversation reminds me of the bill we just we just heard in the legislature, around, converting properties out of the Williamson Act and their protection for for agriculture into solar panels. And and we can debate, you know, we can debate the the value of that policy. But it it didn't it that that legislation did not have any requirement that you pull out the crop the the the the crops or the rootstock or anything.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    It just it so that you could simply convert the the land over, but there was no there's no accountability around around some of the decision.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And and that's why they under building the understanding and the fluency, especially for some of our, exclusively urban counterparts around how the system works, is so important.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So, I just wanted to ask you, Mister Rubin, you know, given if given given the Bank of the West is owned by Bank of Montreal, is is Quebec or are there other governments in, you know, in the world or in North America that are doing anything, you know, innovative or instructive that we might learn from here in California about how to how to address this?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Oh, yeah. That's you know, of course, you know, you know, ice wine. Of course, you have Okanogan Valley that's more similar to Napa. A lot of production, you just don't have the same pest and disease issues because of the overwinter freezes and everything. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So class winged sharpshooter, you know, won't be a a great you know, really won't be a problem for them anytime soon. I'm knocking on wood right now. An interesting, you know, prevention, very different industry, but also when I work in is controlled environment agriculture and the Canadian greenhouse system in Ontario and just the level of biosecurity involved in isolating different greenhouse grows. You know, they're they're dealing with tomato virus, which is threatening their entire industry, talking about crop switching, cucumbers, etcetera.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But but, really, that cost and investment in biosecurity is always top of the conversation.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Right? And really understanding the protect these local homegrown industries that have a great background and story and and putting some government funds behind that. That's certainly kind of in Ontario in particular is really good at.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. And and please let the folks of Ontario know that we we love fun. We love Ontario, everything about it and especially their name. So I appreciate you so much. Absolutely.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    to our final panelist who's Michael Miller, the Director of Governmental Relations for the California Association of Wine Grape Growers. We've talked all about wine grape growers all day today. So now let's hear from their voice. Michael, welcome.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Thank you, Senator Cabaldon and Senator Aguiar-Curry. Before I begin, I do want to say, I appreciate you holding this hearing. You both represent a destination wide region in the world. Your community makes some of the finest wine in the world.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And these hearings are important. I appreciate you doing that. I also acknowledge the leaders of both your respective houses. They both represent wine regions, the Pro Tem and the Center speaker as well, and we know that they're engaged in these issues because what we're talking about today affects their constituents, affects your constituents. So we appreciate your leadership and engagement on this.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So I I can't think you're done for this. And I also wanna piggyback on one thing that you said, Senator Cabaldon. To our friends from Canada, please break more California wine. We we love our friends from Canada. Please please buy more California wine.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Alrighty.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So with that, I'll begin. You've heard a lot of information today about the situation with Wes and other past. It's a very serious problem indeed. We know that for many growers and winemakers, they're struggling to stay in business and we know that many of them have already lost the struggle. And so what we're talking about today is important.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    As we wrap up the hearing, I'm gonna focus on potential solutions. I want to offer some ways forward in dealing with the situation. When we first address the Costco situation, we appreciate the $10,000,000 redirection of CDFA's Efund toward the ad commissioners on this program. It's very important. It's helpful.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    But that action also reduces money available for other things. For example, if Tracy finds that she has a problem with the Spotted Lantern Flyer District, the e Fund has now has minimal funds available for that. So we're really looking for additional state funding to deal with the issue. Our estimate is that there needs to be about $26,800,000 in new funding dedicated to deal with the Costco situation. The industry has already stepped up with new funding.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Additionally, we anticipate some federal support coming soon. We hope, we hope, we hope. But we also need some state funding and we're hopeful for that because we we recognize that there will be opportunities in January, maybe some early budget action or some additional things you can do. If there's a if there's a special session, maybe there's an opportunity there. I'm sorry.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    But we're hoping I appreciate that. That said, the second thing we need to deal with is the overall funding of the Pierce's disease control program in general. When the program was created twenty five years ago, it was built on the promise that you would have three tiers of financial support. You'd have federal support, state support, and industry support. The industry has contributed more than $90,000,000 since the inception of the program.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    At the federal level, there's ongoing funding every year. At the state level, that funding stopped during the Great Recession, and we recognize there was a budget crisis at the time, and hard decisions had to be made for only $5,000,000 of state money has been spent on this program. And that was a one time expenditure in 2017. And so in short, that is not sustainable. The lack of funding has resulted in reducing vital activities that are needed to control the the GUIS population.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And remember, this is a control program. It's not an eradication program. They're not trying to eradicate GUIS. They're trying to control it. So the activities to control it have to be funded, and that the and the lack of funding is how we wound up with risk in in Backyards in Fairfield.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    We have nine counties currently right now that have risk in in in populated residential areas, and five of those counties had a problem before the Costco situation. So the Costco situation doubled it, but we already had an existing problem. So what we're looking at to to to get to that three tiers of support again, I think the state needs to invest probably $10,000,000 annually in that program to make a sustainable again going forward.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And that's something that we can do going forward and should be a major part of the conversation. Third, we need to look at the potential causes for the spread of GWIS.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    While the last wing sharpshooter can fly a long distance, as Doctor. Kwan said, we know with the Costco situation, that didn't happen. They didn't fly from Texas to Fairfield. It didn't fly even from Fresno to Napa. It was on through the goods movement system and through shipping plants that were infested from then plants from nurseries.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So we need to look at that as a statewide issue and not just a local region by region issue because what happens in one place affects the entire state. The takeaway with the nurseries is that we need to know that the nurseries are already doing a lot of good things, and they still have a problem.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    If you've got a nursery that has spraying, they're monitoring, they're doing everything that's required, but the whole area around the nursery is infected with GISS, it is a real difficult problem to manage. Because when that that plant goes on that truck and that community is full of GISS, that truck is gonna take the GISS and send that elsewhere in the state.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So we need to look at how we can help the nurseries better manage that by probably spraying close to the nurseries and maintaining controlling that population to a to a level that we don't spread it across the state.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    With the Texas situation, we had 10 trucks come in from Texas. Three of those, only three were identified before they got here. That means that our border protection inspection stations aren't working the way we would like them to work. And I want to be clear, it's not their fault. Again, when you go back to the great recession, they lost funding.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    They were underfunded, they're understaffed, and they have a difficult job to do. But we've mentioned the glass the spotted lanternfly. That plant that that the insect when it comes to California is likely to come either one of two ways, either on the highway system or on the rail system. So the border inspection stations are vital to making sure that we, one, know when it gets here and try to block it down.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    We've already had shipments where they found the egg masses on an art fixture that was shipped to Sonoma.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And they caught it in time when we were lucky. We found dead spotted lanternfly on airship is because they're not very hardy. They get the cold weather in the plane and they die. But we know that there will be some truck, some RV or something is going to have an egg mass on it, that's going to come down Interstate 80. And if it's not inspected, and they don't catch it, it's going straight to Napa, Sonoma and other mine regions.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    So we need to do something to make the inspection stations more effective. Regarding treatment methods, I want to suggest a couple of things we can do. One is somebody mentioned that how we can use robotics to better go through venues and identify things like leaf roll or mealy bug. When a robot can go through and scan the thing and come out with a full map of where the problem is, they can treat it better.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    They can identify specifically where the problem is going with another robot that was sprayed just where it's needed.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It'll just use the pest management tools that are needed and nothing more. And it controls it more effectively and timely and stops those spreads. Additionally,

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    you're looking at the tools that we use, we appreciate that the legislature has often come and asked to deal with managing those pest management tools. But recognize that every time that the legislature says you can't use this one or you can't use that one, you're taking one more tool out of the toolbox to grow us to deal with these pest issues. So we need to make sure that we have the tools necessary to do the job.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    when

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And finally, we talked about when you have the terrible situation, we have to rip out your Vineyard, right. And I appreciate the majority leaders comments.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It is a tough thing for people to do, but they have to do it in many cases. It's expensive. A big Vineyard, you have to. In other cases, however, it's a disease Vineyard. That grower can look at the tree assistance program and get some funding if they can, pull that out and deal with that issue.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    However, under the tree assistance program, you have to burn it. You can't mulch it. You can't chip it. You can't. It has to be burned or you lose that federal support.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    In the Central Valley, you can't burn anymore. It's prohibited now. So what they're doing is they're looking at things like curtain burners, right? High demand is not available. It's incredibly costly.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    What the, summer clean Valley Air Protection District did was to come up with some funding for those growers where they said, we will give you a grant to help cover the cost. That money dried up last summer. There's no money available for that. So what we've asked for the last two years, because we've seen this coming, is we've looked at the greenhouse gas reduction fund as a potential way of funding that effort.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    If the district can get some funding from the GGRF, and then use that to help growers deal with this issue, that'll be helpful because what happens when they can't deal with it is that a couple of things.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    One, you've got the video that's taken out and just left their piles of vineyard, that becomes a haven for rodents, as well as the disease that if it was a disease, a vineyard. And now that becomes a threat to the entire region. So those are some of the options that we have that I want to offer today. I guess going forward, I recognize how we got here and where we are.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    There are tough decisions that have to be made, but I think we have to deal with it.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It. Bringing that to the comments made from Doctor. Kron. Dollars 110,000,000 in crop loss annually, that's real. Tracy mentioned if it's green, yellow, red, we're at red.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    That's real. Josh used the word seismic. These are real problems. As as a former staffer in the capital, I know that people come to you all the time asking for the handout, asking for something, and they say the sky is falling. The sky is falling.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    It's bad. It is really bad, and we need some help. Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Michael. Thank you. One, two. Do you have questions? Yes.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you. I appreciate that the just the long action list that we can take up together in the capital as well. So appreciate the specificity and the range of options that will help us maybe get to orange from red and are worth considering. There's one other, you know, the I happen to Chair the Technology Committee for the Senate.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we are anticipating the world is anticipating that some of the major technology companies, particularly the two AI the two AI labs and SpaceX may go public in the coming months or in the coming couple of years, which will mean potentially a large episodic windfalls of cash for common tax rolls.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we don't know when, we don't know how much. We actually don't even know who we'll be able to spend it because of the GAN limit. So that's a separate issue. But as most of the budget requests that I know that we both receive are ongoing permanent budget requests and we should and you've made a couple of you've identified a couple of those just now, which and those are important for us to consider.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But as you think it's also there's separately we should be thinking about if there are substantial one time revenues, what might we do that would attack the problem in a way that would avoid longer term costs?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So for example, if we're on if we are if we're trying to if eradication is possible in some of in some of these places and in some of these vectors, but it's too expensive, that but it's but it is feasible to to accomplish, then we ought to be thinking we we ought to ask ourselves the question at least, if we had enough money to fund eradication now or in the next year or two, would that and and we're able to do that at significant scale with more than one vector.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Could we could we not reduce the $10,000,000 that you're describing because that's chump change, but avoid potentially the pressure for even much larger than their costs on an ongoing basis. And so I would encourage our folks who have testified today and other experts to help us think that through. Eradication is not always an option for a variety of biological community concern and other reasons. So it's not the panacea.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And it may not eradication is just one of these dimensions where we might see, is there a big play that we might do that might and I by one time, I don't mean just once, but maybe twice, not not forever, that would allow us to to to really get at the to get at the root of the problem and also to do so in a way that doesn't require us to keep adding another $10,000,000 and another $10,000,000 and another $10,000,000 in permanent ongoing commitments.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So appreciate the list that you've given us, Michael, and would you just ask us to think about this additional dimension as well, to the extent we might make significant one time investments or short term investments that would eat at the basic problem itself.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Thank you. I'll commit to try to come up with some options for you to consider. Thank you so much.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you. And was

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    it said here, I think about what does the eradication look like? You know, what does it really look like? And what what's most bang for our buck when we do that? And yeah. That

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    that's a great question. It's I'd say it's challenging to answer. We do know the PDCP program, the Pearson's Disease Control Program. We've had I think the stats are 18 quiz eradications throughout the state over many, many years. So we can do it.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    We're very good at it. But that was always one offs on a on a much smaller scale. So, yes, now we're facing more eradication efforts and needs that are popping up all over the place. It's a little bit like whack a mole. So I think we're kind of trying to figure out if that can work, how it will work.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    And then playing the long game, you know, do we focus regionally? Do we focus on high wine growing regions? I mean, it's there's a lot of ifs, a lot of what ifs. If we leave it to be, you know, leave this county to become infested and then we just accept that it is, you know, how does that impact agriculture there? How does that impact the economy?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    How does that impact anything that's coming from that county to was free county. So there's a lot of things to think about. We can eradicate and we've done it, but never on this scale. So that's definitely a whole different part of the game.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    And if I could add on to that too. I did read on some of the history about when the program was created, and they did look at statewide eradication of what that would look like. And the costs were huge. They just said that, that wasn't really manageable, but through this control program, it was more physically, fiscally recruited.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Yes. And then also, I mean, statewide eradication becomes a continual whack a mole, right? Because again, you're gonna have importation potentially from nurseries out of state. You know, there's always that risk. So, you know, I'd you know, I wouldn't wanna say that eradication is impossible.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    But, yeah, it it certainly we can what is one thing for California to be very on top of it, very aggressive. But again, it's that we have to look at other Southeastern United States and and from those areas as well as an issue.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    It's it's looking at the costs eradication effort and then the continual management effort that's, like, happening in Temecula and other areas. So that you look at all of those parts. I I would space speaking for Napa, I am pushing for eradication. If it were to pop up in Napa, I don't think I have a choice at this point to to look outside of that. So I would push for that.

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    If whether that's realistic or not, I don't know. But that's that's kind of where my head is at now. So I'm definitely thinking, long term and then a little more outside of the box. If we don't follow this traditional path of eradication, then then what can we do? What can I do ahead of what we normally do?

  • Tracy Cleveland

    Person

    If that makes sense.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    We have an incredible institution here at UC Davis. Hello, UC Davis. We need some help. Yeah. Just saying.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    And kinda connected to the issue of whether eradication is is necessary. And Senator Kabald mentioned that earlier, you talked about CRISPR. Right? I mean, yeah, is there in most crops. Right?

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You can either well, I won't I won't say that word. But you can generally use resistance free dig, back crossbreeding, molecular techniques, right, to have resistance within your crop. Right? And very commonplace, you could set, oh, it's gonna take us fifteen years to get there. You know, PDR one, the resistance chain for Pierce's disease is actually comes from grapevines that evolved in in Mexico and Southeastern United States.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    Like, oh, great. Let's stick it in everywhere, which would work in other crops. And wine grapes are so unique because we're attached to 800, you know, 1,100 year old clones that are mean everything. Right? And the genetics, it it's just a very, very different landscape.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    So even if Pinot Noir looked the same, tasted the same, produced the same wine, If the public knew that there was other genetics that were brought in, it it just becomes a a different issue. And I just bring that up because it is it's great that there's that, ovaissance, lack of a better word to tradition. But other crops, you you don't really need to deal with that.

  • Josh Rubin

    Person

    You know, you can have a new cultivar come out every two to three years, and people are expecting that, but that's just not the, the at least the, California, Vitis vinifera based kind of wine grape landscape, if you will.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    If I can add to that too, there's been research here at UC Davis on this, Cornell, Oregon State, others were looking at how do we make the grapevine more resistant to Pierce's disease. And the PDGOS board has put quite a bit of funding into that research every year. It is a tough nut to crack as Josh said for a bunch of different reasons.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    But when they took $800,000 out of that research this year to deal with the Costco situation, that research is on hold a little bit because we have to deal with the emerging crisis. So it's a balancing act where limited resources you could do what you can.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yes. During the we were dealing with the glass wing sharp shooter of the first round, California's budget was structurally extremely different. California is the only I think it's the I think this is the case that's still the case. California is not just the only state. It's the only government state or national government on the planet, that has something akin to a $30,000,000,000 permanent deficit and years in which it has a 30 or $50,000,000,000 one time unexpected surplus.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's now a feature of our public finance system, and it has been since Facebook went public. Right? That's not new. I know. But I think, you know, especially those of us who've been around for a while, we keep thinking that's gonna stop, and we will be like any other government or company or nonprofit where we're mostly thinking about what to spend each year.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But our budget's not like that any longer. And and that open that's an enormous challenge for those of us that are trying to make a budget. But it also opens up a different set of a different box of solutions that is unlike what you might what you could imagine in Ontario or Mississippi or anywhere else.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so, you know, my my own view is it's incumbent on us to to at least consider those what would anywhere else be seen as moonshot plays, but here are actually quite possible if you just pick the right year. And and they and in some sense, they're more possible than how do we add $26,000,000 to CDFA every year?

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's I think the personally, I think that's doable. But it is not. It is. It is as much of a challenge as in a year where we have a $20,000,000,000 IPO from from open a I and we're and we're like, well, could we spend $100,000,000 on erratic under an eradication program this year? That's actually a much simpler than $26,000,000 forever.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So we just so it's I'm simply encouraging, you know, researchers, innovators, creators, you know, advocates and others to about think about these these the opportunity set differently so that we can make sure that that if there you know, when there are these big dividends from some of these world changing economy changing technologies that that agriculture in particular is not left behind.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that that we're that we're assuring that we're tackling some of the we're tackling the red the the red crisis, not the communist one, but the red the red light crisis that the Right. That Joseph Cleveland has has outlined. So Thank you. Alright.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Well, thanks so much to to our to our panel. Extremely enlightening. Very much appreciated and very, very practical and actionable. Appreciate all your work, both for our hearing today, but also the work you're doing every day to tackle this and many other overlapping crises. We're now going to turn to public comment if we have any.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We're going to invite any members of the public to come forward, maybe line up at the center, and then we'll be taking public comment at the at the podium here where we first saw the dean of the law school. Welcome.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    Thank you. Good afternoon. Noelle Cremers with Wine Institute. Wine Institute represents California wineries. Really appreciate you holding this hearing this afternoon to delve deeply into the impacts of glassy winged sharpshooter and what can be done to help.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    California wineries, as we all know, are challenged right now, and this is an added challenge that they don't need to face. I wanna express appreciation for the recognition by the majority leader that there is a need to provide additional funding and to have a increasing number of eradications that we're gonna need to undertake. So I also wanted to follow-up on a point, that was raised earlier about the research needed and if there's opportunities for using new technologies to address, glassy winged sharpshooter and Pierce's disease.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    And the Pierce's disease, glassy winged sharpshooter board at CDFA, which is funded in part by industry, Mister Miller mentioned, over $90,000,000 since its inception for of industry dollars. But without state funding that limits what's available for research.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    And then with the glassy winged sharpshooter impact, we've had industry funding that's had to go to fund that, which takes away from research. So we're just with with the limited resources we have available, we're not able to address the concern that is present today. There's also a need, as was mentioned before, about a, having a broader discussion about invasive species and the methods for preventing their introduction.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    Because everyone wins when we prevent pests and diseases from being introduced because that means we don't have to spray additional, pesticides to treat those new pests. And as we all know, California is a leader in sustainability.

  • Noelle Cremers

    Person

    And new pests and diseases make it even more difficult for grape growers trying to grow their grapes sustainably and maintain their certification. So there are a whole host of reasons why we should have the bigger conversation, one, about funding, but two, about, making sure that we're improving our methods for keeping, pests, and new pests and diseases out and how we handle and respond to them when they are present. So thank you again, for holding this hearing today, and I look forward to continued discussions.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. Thank you. Welcome.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    Thank you. Good afternoon. I'm Tricia Geringer with Agricultural Council of California and the California California Association of Nurseries. Thank you very much to the Chair and majority leader for this hearing today and appreciate all the comments made. Our council represents vineyards, almonds, pistachios, peaches, tomatoes, citrus, and more.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    And my own family grows wine grapes and raisins, my mom and my brother in the San Joaquin Valley. So this is incredibly personal issue and very important statewide issue, of course. Thanks to, the Chair and the majority leader for the 10,000,000 in the e fund, and for the recognition all throughout the summer to push for funding. We greatly appreciate that. I am here today to speak on behalf of our members from the California Association of Nurseries.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    As has been said, they are very much on the front lines as others have expressed. And they're not just on the front lines of GWIS, but also many other pests. For many of these family owned nurseries that we represent, they feel that they're in crisis now. They are working around the clock to address with to control with and be so much part of the solution.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    But they are in some cases as family owned businesses spending 6 figures of their own funding in order to fight this really critical emergency situation.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    We are working alongside our friends at the California Association of Wine Grape Growers and others in agriculture to support the 26,800,000 as mentioned by Mister Miller. And we, of course, are in regular communication with multiple ad commissioners and, working with CDFA officials on a better strategy going forward, just, to have better coordination in the future. Our members are absolutely committed to developing a stronger framework.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    I know the commissioner mentioned that and toward moving moving toward more meaningful improvements to the quiz and Pearson's programs to be more effective and to collaborate on additional state funding and better pathways as the Chair mentioned and more opportunities as a sector that's one of those front lines of defense. We know that that's crucial.

  • Tricia Geringer

    Person

    So appreciate the time, and thanks for the hearing today. Look forward to continuing to work with you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you. Right. Good afternoon. We're we're gonna we're gonna go back back to our last hearing in that.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    That's right. No. No.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    No. Crack one of our the oldies but goodies.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Yes. That's right.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    That's right. I did have the pleasure of presenting to the board in in Napa the last the last meeting. But since you're here today at UC Davis, and our name has come up many times throughout, obviously, thank you for being here and excited to hear the conversation today. You talked about moonshots and and this and these possibilities. And I would just like to to raise, you know, the the point that I think one of our greatest places to invest is in our university systems.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    This is where these changing technologies have have come from. And if we're thinking about applying things like CRISPR, I can tell you we have faculty here at UC Davis that are ready to do that with no funding to be able to do it. So all of these issues that we're talking about today are kind of encapsulated in that. Our CSU system, our UC system, just amazing entities to be able to tackle these problems.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Not only do we generate new knowledge, we generate the people who then go out into that industry and lead that industry and are problem solvers in the industry.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Cindy's example of that. We mentioned another alum of the program. So if there is a moonshot, I think it's going to come, you know, from a place like a UC that does that. What we've seen instead in the recent past and PDGUS board has been mentioned many times today, to note that that board now funds research on seven different pests and diseases. It's not just Pierce's disease.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    And that's because all of these diseases are emerging, and there's no money elsewhere to do it. So PDG WIS is taking it upon itself to tackle red blotch and mealybug. I can tell you in conversations with people who have gone through that process of applying there, they're they're presented with the difficult task of deciding where their limited budget is going. And what has happened in most recent years is they decide to fund one grant on each disease.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    And and that means only one project is getting funded out of maybe tens that are being being asked for.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    So, again, just echoing that, you know, we are here at UC Davis. We have a long history with this industry. We're very proud of that history, and we're ready to help. And if there are investments in those moonshots, we'll gladly take on that challenge, if if provided the opportunity. So thank you.

  • Ben Montpetit

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. One looks like we have one final public comment.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    Senator Cabaldin and leader Aguiar-Curry, Chris Reardon, California Farm Bureau, and I wanted to thank you for this hearing today. I think the one alarm bell, not only besides this issue, that sort of goes off in our head is two years ago, we were dealing with the Oregon fruit fly in the Inland Empire. You know, some years ago, we were dealing I think before both you got here, we're dealing with the light brown apple Moth Issue, particularly in the Bay Area.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    Our fear is what if we have a couple of things going on simultaneously here? What do we do?

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    I I appreciate your your discussion about one time monies, but, boy, what if we have, you know, numerous infestations that we're dealing with? That's what concerns us. And we are very concerned about, you know, what we've done for the last fifteen years, but I'm not sure we can just depend on that one time money.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    So I think it's a great idea, but it seems to me we have to invest, you know, serious monies as we look down the future just not only on one issue, one infestation, but numerous infestations at the same time. Particularly with the transportation challenges with rail and and trucks and and border station challenges, etcetera.

  • Chris Reardon

    Person

    So that was that's the one thing I would indicate is that I think we better be prepared for more than just one. Thank you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you. Agreed. So the the, you know, we're we're we, try to fund moonshots for cancer, but we still work on the annual flu vaccines. It's not it's not they're not one or the other.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    They're tackling, you know, different dimensions of the same of the same problem at once. So I appreciate, the the panel, all the public comment that we've heard today. It's been extremely instructive.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I think, you know, just to return to the very beginning of the of our conversation and the majority leaders majority leader made this point at the outset as well, that though, you know, even even the scale of some of these investments, both long one time and ongoing, compared to the total value of these crops and all of the of the jobs and the towns and the communities that depend on them, it really does pale in comparison.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that's why we've been advocating so strongly to try to to to make those the necessary baseline investments for exactly the kinds of initiatives and just ongoing work for detection, for intervention, for prevention, and everything else that has been described today.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So I think the case has been made very clearly once again on that. And I know we will be taking this back as well as other members of the committee who are who will be watching the tape of today, back to the capital to to renew the battle.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I know several of you several of you will be with us in in making sure that we try to get those those resources, but also get the attention and the focus that these issues and the and the very real threats pose. This it happens to be the fiftieth anniversary of the judgment of Paris, which, was the moment when when California, shocked the world with the with the the quality, the excitement, the innovation of California's wine in the first place.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And it's a reminder that our our position in the world of wine is as as as much a vibe as anything.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    The wine like many other is is one is just one of those products, one of those crops, one of those things that is as much about the feeling and the vibe as it is about the chemistry. And it is why one it is one of the reasons why it's absolutely critical that we that we protect the reputation of California wine grapes and California's wine industry as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we've seen other places in the world that have not recovered, from from invasive species, both because of its impact on production, but also because it affected the the global reputation of those places. And we're not gonna let that happen in California. We cannot.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    As has been said, we're talking about one of California's most significant industries just in sheer economics. I know for both the majority leader and me, for the communities that we represent, it is it is the essential lifeblood. It is the defining characteristic of so many of our of our communities, but also for California as a state. The the, wine, in particular is, in in some sense, the definition of California's cache, its success, its class, its sophistication, its creativity, around the world.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that matters in California's soft power, our economic power, and our in our in our ability to continue leading to lead in so many other ways.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so, we we will remain focused on this, to be sure, in the budget, legislatively and in in in following up on today's hearing. In addition to future hearings of this select committee, I also want to invite folks to follow this. We will be in the budget subcommittee that oversees CDFA in the Senate side, which I happen to serve on.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We'll be doing additional follow-up work in the spring as we consider the governor's budget proposal to assure that the investments that we're talking about today are funded and that the appropriate priority is being placed on them as well. So thank you so much for today's feedback for the clarion call, for the for the for the rich amount of information that you provided, and the and the very, very actionable policy ideas as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And let me invite our majority leader Assemblymember Agar Kuri to make any final comments.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Thank you all for being here today. The thing I'd like to say is that, we will have a new legislature pretty soon in November, and there's a lot of new faces that will not understand what what we do in agriculture. And so I invite you to go into their offices, share your stories, tell them what's important in California, what's important in the industry. They need to be educated.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    There's a lot that have no idea what we do and the importance of agriculture in Northern California, throughout the state, obviously.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So I just wanna encourage you to meet up with our agriculture. We have an agriculture committee in both houses, and there'll be committee hearings, maybe select committee hearings. So thank you very much for coming today. We don't give up very easily. We work hard on trying to make sure that the economy in California stays thriving.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So thank you all for coming today.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Alright. And again, thanks to UC Davis for hosting us, and I also wanna give particular thanks to Nicole Koe Nelson, who's sitting to my my left. She's been here the whole time, but she's the the staff that supports this select committee and who has been in contact with many of the folks that are here today. But she's the expert. She helps to make sure that these hearings get translated into legislative and budget action as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So thanks to Nicole. Thanks to each of you. And with that, the select committee on California's wine industry is adjourned.

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