Senate Budget and Fiscal Review Subcommittee No. 3 on Health and Human Services
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
On health and human services will now come to order. Good morning, everyone. It's been a different morning today. Happy you can all make it. The senate continues to welcome the public in person and via the teleconference service for public comment. For those who wish to call in and provide a comment, today's number is 1877-226-8163 and the access code is 736-2834 as always, we're holding our subcommitee hearing in room 1200, building 1021.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I ask the rest of the members of the subcommitee to be present here so we can establish our quorum. Today on the agenda, we'll be hearing budget proposals from three departments, Department of Social Services, Department of Child Support Services, and the Department of Community Services and Development. So we'll jump right in. We'll begin to hear presentations from issue number one on childcare rate reform update earlier in the year, the whole Budget Committee as a whole dove right in into childcare rate reform.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
This panel is now going to serve as an update as to what we heard earlier this year, not fully diving in since we already did that. So I want to welcome the panelists, director Kim Johnson from Department of Social Services, Kimberly Rosenberger from the Child Care Providers Union, Christina Garcia representing Parent Voices, LaWanda Wesley, the director of government relations from the Child Care Resource Center, and representing LAO Jackie Barocio.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair. Kim Johnson, California Department of Financial Services, good to see you. I will appreciate the background in the agenda, and so I'll go right to the questions of the committee, and that is to describe the department's approach and progress towards shifting from the current regional market rate methodology to a single rate structure for the field. And so I just want to recognize again the tremendous strides that the administration and legislature have made to expand services and supports for young children and families.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Guided by our master plan for early learning and care, the states made historic multi year and multibillion dollar investments. And of course, within the multi year budget the administration and Legislature committed to rate and quality reform. We are, again, just a quick history, right? We've had two different and unaligned systems for reimbursing early learning and care programs.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The standard reimbursement rate and the regional market rate, and some state subsidy programs reimbursed early learning care and programs using an RMR that varied by county and was determined based on a periodic price survey. Other programs reimbursed early learning and care programs using a flat standard reimbursement rate. So for the past year, the Department of Social Services, in consultation with the Department of Education facilitated rate and Quality stakeholder work groups.
- Kim Johnson
Person
We want to express gratitude for all stakeholders who have participated in those efforts and your agenda outlines on page six the workgroups recommendations, which were published in August of last year. Again building on that work group's report, a joint labor management committee and the Childcare Provider United published and submitted a report on November of last year to the Department of Finance and a governor's office.
- Kim Johnson
Person
That report adopts several components of the workgroup's recommendations and supports a single rate structure that includes an alternative methodology that considers a cost estimation model, base rates, incentives enhancement, rate setting metrics, and the evaluation of the rate structure. The base rate setting metrics includes a cost estimation model that factors the full cost of delivering early learning and care and is representative of the diverse needs of the various childcare and program types in their respective settings.
- Kim Johnson
Person
I also want to just lift up again in both work groups equity and addressing inequities in our system. We're certainly prioritized and lifted up in that we have again opportunities to remedy the long standing issues that have been in place with the existing rate structure.
- Kim Johnson
Person
So the governor's January budget proposes that the state will rely on the approach presented by the Joint Labor Committee and as it continues to develop this single rate structure, our federal rules require the department to obtain pre-approval for an alternative methodology, and that pre-approval requires that we submit a letter to the Federal Government demonstrating that it's met a number of specified steps.
- Kim Johnson
Person
We have done that, and I'm happy to report that that request was submitted to the Administration of Children and Families on March 28th last month. We expect a response from the Administration of Children and Families within 60 days of the confirmed receipt date. ACF confirmed our receipt on March 30, so again, we expect to receive a response within 60 days. Once pre-approved, the department can use the alternative methodology to develop a cost estimation model.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The model will produce information about the cost of care that can be used to set a unified schedule of cost based rates. And again, the final rates must be approved through our overall state plan process that we submit to the Federal Government. We've contracted with prenatal to five fiscal strategies to develop the alternative methodology and cost estimation model. They have been a contractor that there are a few other states who have adopted a similar alternative methodology that have utilized this contractor.
- Kim Johnson
Person
So they have experience in getting approval from the Federal Government, and we're glad to partner with them on that step. So the next steps are the development of the cost estimation model and a unified rate schedule with the base and enhanced rates. And all of our next steps will be taken in collaboration with the legislature, the Department of Education, Child Care Providers United and additional stakeholders.
- Kim Johnson
Person
And then, of course, we'll just also note, as your agenda does, that rates are subject to negotiation between care providers united and the administration, as well as federal requirements. So we'll continue as we are right now in a successor agreement to our current agreement that expires in June of this year as it relates. Again, our state plan submission as I referenced, that's due July of 2024. So we are again taking these pre-approval steps.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The survey processes are changing and we are looking to put that full adoption of this alternative methodology with the submission of the state plan in July of 2024. And then we will work through the implementation steps. There's automation components. Again, we have to analyze the survey results that we have to actually land on what the actual rate ends up being determined. So just note that's our next steps component. You also referenced in the committee agenda some questions related to the increase.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Again, just really grateful for the additional federal support we've received in California. So we are expecting to receive a $170,000,000 increase in the Childcare and Development Block Grant. Federal funds for the childcare and the Childcare and Development Fund, and the proposed plan for expenditure will be captured in our May revision proposal. And then finally, the committee has asked us some questions related to the return of family fees July 1 of 2023 and options available.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Again, we have, through a waiver that we submitted to the Federal Government, have been able to waive family fees through the beginning of the pandemic, through two subsequent fiscal years, through June of this year. In terms of next steps, the requirement is that federal regulations require lead agencies to establish and periodically revise a sliding fee schedule for families that receive federal childcare and development funds.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The fees, in terms of the law requirements, have to enable choice of a range of options for families, be based on income and size of the family, and not be a barrier to accessing care. So states have the discretion to waive family fees for very Low income families or other families receiving or needing protective services or participating in the TANF or our Cal Works program here in California based on criteria that the states establish.
- Kim Johnson
Person
But fees can't universally be waived for all families, which again is why we submitted a waiver to be able to do that in the past few years. So absent statutory change, just as a budgetary implication, we would estimate in budget year to collect between 75 and $80 million in fees in terms of revenue that's then invested back in the program in terms of access to subsidies. So I'll stop there, and I'm glad to answer any questions to the pleasure of the committee.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much, Director. We'll hold questions to the end of the panel.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Thank you Madam Chair and members. Kimberly Rosenberger with CCPU childcare Providers United, which is a SEIU and UDW collaborative. When we started our campaign nearly 10 years ago for the right to unionize, there was around 40,000 family childcare providers. And as we entered the final hurdles on our bill, there was about 36,000. The numbers were declining already, and rates are a huge component of that.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
And we saw that get worse during COVID So when we say the need for rate reform and why the rates are insufficient, it's because it has created great instability in our family childcare providers. During the pandemic, we lost a significant number of providers, and thanks to the administration and the legislature, there was a significant investment that helped keep them whole and keep providers here. It wasn't just solely rates, and I think that's something we want to highlight.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
The rate structure is dependent on these other subsidies, on waiving family fees, on looking at enrollment instead of hold harmless the rates themselves we know aren't sufficient. The P5 study said that only 25% to 30% of the rates covered the actual cost of care. Between the pandemic and the expansion to universal transitional kindergarten, we're seeing a lot of private pay families leave. And as a result, our members aren't able to bridge the gap of the cost of care for these subsidized children.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Without those private pay, families kind of paying that excess that they need to keep operating their businesses. Which is why we came together with the JLMC to address a single rate structure and to approach a different methodology. So we were asked what was agreed upon by the JLMC. I think Director Johnson covered a lot of the high level stuff. So we'll talk more on the equity as a metric, which is an important piece of that JLMC.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We looked at the cost of care model, and we are supporting that proposal because it counts for the real cost for the child. It takes into consideration the ability to scale like a small family. Childcare provider won't be able to spread out the cost of their rent, the diapers staffing that they would if they had a larger business infrastructure where you can scale things up.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So those nuances allow for the state to be flexible and the rates to be flexible to allow for the expansion of family childcare providers and centers, especially the incentives that look at family childcare deserts and can encourage subsidies to reopen where it's most needed. Where critical care is there it has flexibility. And we think that's also really helpful for the legislature bridging the gap where we have CCPU bargaining with administration, but the legislature having the conversation around how they can support childcare.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
This methodology allows that conversation to happen. So our recommendation is to move to the alternative methodology known as cost of care as soon as possible. The base rate is the foundational rate. We believe we can start scaling that up and then looking at the flexibility for the other considerations. Ratio and group size, staffing patterns, family engagement, those all contribute to the flexibility and to not just retaining the workforce that we've seen decline, but recruiting and expanding, which we so desperately need.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We have slots that are proposed. We would like to see them continue to be implemented. We know that the January budget proposed delaying it. In large part that was due to delays. We think those delays also add to the instability. We've seen that with the funding that was put in the original contract and through the COVID agreements such as the facility improvement grants, stipends, and most recently dues deductions have all attributed to delays in payments to our family childcare providers.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
As such, they are taking on tens of thousands of dollars of debt because they're relying on the state to pay them and they're not seeing those payments in a timely and reasonable manner. We are working with DSS. They know it's an issue, but they also are reliant on contracting, which delays the process further. So, for instance, the stipends that were guaranteed, that was about 1442 per child, up to 15,000, that was agreed upon last year's budget. We were hoping to be released in January.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
That's where the conversation was at, and now is being pushed back to the summer. It's not that there's not a recognition of urgency, but ultimately the fees and costs from having the providers pay out of pocket, put it on credit cards, take on debt, won't be reimbursed by the state, so they're just taking on all these additional cost factors. That stability, or lack thereof, makes it really difficult for us to help recruit new workers.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So what we like about the new methodology and why we think there's an urgency is that there is fluidity, there's flexibility. But ultimately, at the end of the day, the base rate takes into consideration actual cost of care and is more substantial. We know that that cost is significant and can't be done overnight. We recognize the budgets in a deficit, but we do think we can start shifting as soon as possible.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
As mentioned by the director, we're working with the Federal Government to have that address, but we don't think we need to wait till 2024, when the contract is up with the state. We believe it can be done through an indentum, and we would like and encourage the legislature to be in that conversation as much as possible, recognizing the bargaining. But that is what we at the table are asking for, is an urgency to shift, an urgency to provide a more stable infrastructure.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
But again, I want to highlight that what we think is important, in addition to this switch to the alternative methodology, is all those additional factors that help provide stability, which is the family fee waivers, which is going away from attendance, which they don't have control over, and looking at enrollment base because they are still opening their facilities to those children, whether or not they attend every day. And we know little kids get sick. I have, too. They get sick often, no matter the best efforts.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So we don't think they should be penalized. And we support our allies in the ECE world that are asking for those considerations as well. And I'm available for any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Before we move on, let's establish a quorum.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Senators. [Roll Call] We have a quorum.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you so much. Kimberly. Christina.
- Christina Garcia
Person
Good morning. My name is Christina Garcia and I live in Marin County, where I've lived for the past 20 years. I have four kids, a 17 year old, 7 year old twins, and a 2 year old. I'm currently studying psychology with a minor in community action and social change at Dominican University. I'm here to talk about the necessity of continuing to suspend the family fee.
- Christina Garcia
Person
Right now, three of my children are able to receive care thanks to the voucher, which I received last April after being on the waitlist since my twins were little, my 2 year old's in a center based program and has really benefited from being in a high quality childcare program. People mistake her for a 4 year old because of her language, and that's because of that care. Because of the voucher, I was able to enroll my twins in an after school program that also does summer camp.
- Christina Garcia
Person
They get help after school with homework and get to hang out with their friends while I'm running around doing all of my projects. Today I'm representing the 146,000 families who have recently received childcare and the 20,000 families whose access to care rests in your hands. Before I had childcare, things felt impossible. I was able to get my associates last year, but it took several years due to the lack of childcare.
- Christina Garcia
Person
You can't really focus on school when your kids are awake if you want them to be safe. My last semester at College of Marin, I got inspired by a woman of color who got her doctorate. That changed my life, and after her class, I knew I needed to transfer to get my bachelor's in order to access career opportunities. These are essential to be able to live comfortably in my county and do something meaningful with my work. Once again, I can't do that without access to childcare.
- Christina Garcia
Person
I've been able to say yes to opportunities that I never would have been able to. I've been able to go to classes in person, do interviews. I serve on the Marin Indian Alliance Board as a Pomo woman, and we were able to throw our first ever pow wow. I'm able to serve on a scholarship committee at the College of Marin to make scholarship opportunities more accessible to native students like myself. Because I had barriers.
- Christina Garcia
Person
I'm also able to serve on a DEI Committee at my kids'school where I'm the only native parent. The best word to describe what it would mean for my family if these fees come back is soul crushing. It would derail my long term goals for my career that I can't do without my education. Rent in Marin is astronomical at best, the cost of living. There's inflation. Grad school is going to be a lot. I can't afford to pay hundreds of dollars to have care.
- Christina Garcia
Person
The family fee coming back puts me in a difficult situation. I'd be back in a fight or flight mode where I'd be basing my decisions not from a logical perspective, but from a place of fear. I'd be making decisions on what bills to pay to stay housed. Sorry, it's very emotional imagining what this would be like. We'd have to leave the program, which would then mean I would have to step down from spaces where I can't be replaced.
- Christina Garcia
Person
There's not a ton of native people that can go and do this work that I'm doing. Part of getting the bachelor's is only one step to getting my teaching credential, which would help with the teacher shortage, right? Especially considering we don't have indigenous educators and women of color. You're going to have a bigger labor shortage as a state if you make these family fees come back and families can't stay in the program because of it.
- Christina Garcia
Person
You won't see that just in education, but all over the place. It seems criminal to me that the state asks hundreds of dollars per month from the families they know are marginalized and low income who need the childcare the most. It's unjust that the state is asking primarily low income women of color to subsidize the cost of care provided by other low income women of color.
- Christina Garcia
Person
The way that these family fees and rates have been done historically perpetuates systemic racism and a classist system that is built into the very foundation of our country. Colonialism, capitalism, all of those things. These systems are made to keep our most vulnerable and marginalized oppressed people, to keep them in generational poverty. We can do better than that if we have to bring back the fees on a federal level. The current family fee is not sustainable.
- Christina Garcia
Person
That's why I'm here today to ask the committee's support in passing a final budget that continues to suspend family fees as long as possible until we can develop a system that reimbursed the providers based on the true cost of care that they provide and that includes the elimination of unaffordable family fees in the reimbursement model. When you do these things, if you do them in a few years, you're going to see an increase in your labor market.
- Christina Garcia
Person
You're going to see people that have been in generational poverty no longer experiencing that. You're going to see a ripple effect that can only benefit the state. So thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Moving on to our next panelist.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
Greetings, Chairman Menjivar and good morning committee members. I am Dr. LaWanda Wesley, the director of government relations for Childcare Resource Center. Childcare Resource Center serves children and families have been serving children and families since 1976. Currently, we serve about 50,000 children and families in both Los Angeles County and San Bernardino. county.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
We're a proud Member of the Early Care and Education Coalition, which is made up of about 34 organizations that advocate for state budget investments and policies that promote quality equity and serving the highest need children. First, we are informed by research and promising practices. Collectively, we are led by the expertise of families and early care and education professionals. And I'll get straight to the ask that we are looking for this coalition.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
Our coalition is asking for a 25% increase to the current rates for immediate relief and adopting the cost estimation model that was talked about earlier and including a timeline for implementation for the actual cost of care based on program enrollment without charging families of fees and much to the story that was shared here, by reinstituting family fees, it could cost some families upwards to $595 a month.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
And knowing that some families have never known what a family fee has been like, we're also asking for the 20,000 childcare spaces that were to be released for the 2324 budget year, those 20,000 spaces to be released. We know that families can't wait. And as exemplified here, waiting could mean not being able to go to work or pursue your educational career.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
I do want to thank you, Senator Menjivar, because you are in our San Fernando area, and to that you came and read to our little ones. And thinking about that time that you spent last month with them, we wanted to let you know who's in your district in particular. There's about 2600 childcare providers in your district. Over 2700 parents, and about 7000 children. A little over 7000 children. And many of you on the committee also have children, families in the ECE workforce in your community.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
And so what we're asking for is not to have another decade go by. We've been waiting for about a decade now literally having the same conversation about developing a single rate system. And so what we want to do is take advantage of the work that the rate and quality work group has done to make recommendations about shifting from our current bifurcated and inequitable rate system to a new single rate for all providers based on, again, the cost estimation model.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
And what we also know that there's some cost drivers that are happening right now that wasn't there before. And I will say there is a regional market rate that is done every two years, but the last one was done in 2018, but that was sourced from data from 2016. And you think about 2016 to 2018 to 2023, the cost drivers that childcare providers are impacted by is staffing costs being up by 29%.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
We have gas that's up by 50%, milk is up by 45%, eggs 70%, and then baby formula 51, and baby wipes, 33. So when you think about all the infrastructure of running a business and a childcare program, family childcare, homer center, the costs are astronomical. And so today we know that there are childcare programs, historic programs, family childcare classrooms that are literally empty. And sometimes we refer to that as classrooms going dark.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
And so, meaning that there is room to serve these children, but there isn't staffing capacity to provide the care to the children. And like was said earlier today, we know that children get sick very often, and because of them getting sick very often they're home. And as a result of that, then the childcare provider isn't paid because enrollment, it's based on attendance versus enrollment. So the comment around needing to pay based on enrollment versus attendance is very real.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
We also realize many of our childcare workforce is reliant upon other forms of subsidy, which was said earlier, many are relying on Medical, CalFresh, SNAP. And I know that as a preschool teacher myself, I had to rely on those subsidies when I was a preschool teacher in the classroom, who also was a mother of five receiving subsidies. So it is sort of like women of color trying to take care of women of color.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
So just to not belabor it too much longer, I just want to let you know that our childcare workforce is leaving our industry to go work for other industries. And all work is dignified work. But when you leave an industry where you're a college educated, skilled, taking professional on and on and on continuously year after year, to go work for In N Out or McDonald's, where they can provide educational assistance, they can provide benefits, and our field still doesn't have that in a comprehensive way.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
And so we want parity with other sectors, care, industries and also our K through 12 partners to receive annual COLA raises on a regular basis. And then I'll just end by just saying that the field cannot wait. We are fragile. They are leaving. We're bleeding out. I was going to say a lot, but I don't want to read all of this. I just want to talk to you. The field is bleeding out, it's hemorrhaging.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
And literally, I believe there was a report from the Center for the Study Childcare Workforce that said in this the nation, about 2000 ECE folks left our field 2000 just in one month because it's so unattractive. And yet this is a field that most of us came to. If you were a practitioner like myself, in loving and enjoying being with young children, bringing our. I have a doctorate. I went that far because of how much love I had for this field.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
But yet you want to pay me, and not that you personally, but we're being paid less than $15 an hour in some cases, and most of the cost of care is usually only paid at a third of what it really cost. So just making that case and blending that with the inflationary climate, we have to do something now. If we don't, we're going to have families not being able to go to work. And I actually benefited from subsidy with my five children as a single mom.
- LaWanda Wesley
Person
That allowed me to persist. So when you were sharing your story. I got a little emotional because I'm getting older and we need new folks to come in and start doing this work. So I just plead to you today on behalf of the EC coalition, that we put in the 25% increase across the board for all of our EC workforce and I will conclude my testimony.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, Dr. Wesley. The last panelist we're going to hear from LAO.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Jackie Barocio with the Legislative Analyst Office. I'll start off the comments by just summarizing our comments regarding the family fee waiver expiration and then go into providing an update on a senate budget request that we received in February regarding the potential cost implications of moving to the alternative rate model developed during the work group process. So with regards to family fees, as mentioned in your agenda, the family fee waiver is assumed to expire at the end of June 2023.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
In our analysis and through our conversations with stakeholders and the department, the expiration of the waiver may likely create barriers of care for low income families who may not be able to afford these fees.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
So with that said, we flag that the legislature may want to ask the administration if they have a sense of just how big of a barrier this will pose to families, but then also ask the administration what changes could be made to the family fee structure in order to mitigate these access barriers, but also while still complying with the federal requirement, and just to provide an update as well.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
We're also working with the department to get a better understanding of whether it would be possible to at least potentially extend the waiver to the end of the fiscal year September 2023, just so that the legislature has a bit more time to decide what an alternative family fee schedule could look like. Moving on to our comments regarding the costs associated with the alternative rate model.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
So, during the Senate Full Budget hearing in February, we were asked to look into the potential cost impacts of that alternative rate model developed during the work groups referred to in this panel as the cost of care model.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Just to provide a bit more context of what that alternative rate model looks like compared to the current rates, which are based off of the market survey that's conducted every two years or currently the 2018 survey, the work group model was designed so that childcare workers generally could receive at least a living wage in addition to benefits such as paid sick leave, but then also that providers could receive funding associated with training and supplies, things like that.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Also, the alternative rates still continued to vary based off of certain factors such as provider setting, age group and region across the board. When we compare the alternative rates to current rates, they are significantly higher. So with that, in terms of what the associated costs would be if we were to move to these rates today, we estimate that that would cost an additional $12.6 billion relative to the Governor's Budget, which also includes $1.2 billion cost in Proposition 98 impact.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
And these estimates were based off of the default rate scenarios that were included in the report that came out of one of the work groups. They captured the regional variation in rates, hours of care provided, ages of children serve, and setting of care. And additionally, these estimates are based off of current slot assumptions included in the Governor's Budget, meaning that we're not fully capturing those future slot increases.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
If we were to capture those future slot increases, then the additional costs would increase from 12.6 billion to 14.3 billion. And again, these estimates are based off of the default scenarios that were included in the report. Our understanding is that the department has access to this model, and they're able to provide different rate configurations based off of different assumptions about wages or characteristics of the program. And, of course, those would impact the final cost.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
But then also, as the department noted, we're very much still in the early phases of even getting federal approval of conducting a survey based off of an alternative rate model. So what ultimately comes out of that survey? They may look different from these cost estimates today, but these cost estimates were just developed based off of the current report that came out of the work group based off of default rates. Thank you.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
May I comment on that piece? I know it's a little out of line, but I just wanted to say one thing.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
30 seconds.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Okay.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
That number is huge, and we know that, but there is no model that's fully implemented at 100%. There's a few states that are at 80%, but that took several rounds of legislation. So I do want to say that's a daunting number, and we acknowledge it, but I don't think that any of us expect to get there tomorrow. That's all.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Great. Thank you so much. I really appreciate. First of all, director, I'm glad to hear that we submitted that waiver, and we have a time frame for that response. The stories that you shared, Ms. Garcia, these are the stories that we constantly hear on a daily basis, and these are the stories we're trying to prevent from getting worse. Right. So our goal up here is to ensure we get to some place where we can provide the assistance of the families that are mostly needed.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
So my only question right now is, Kimberly, you mentioned phasing in perhaps doing something now as we continue conversations and Kimberly and director, is there something that you're thinking about how the state can implement a phasing approach? I know we had an idea of perhaps extending the fee waiver until September, giving the administration, the legislature, more time to have conversations. Is there anything else that you can think of how we can implement something right now? Phase in.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Glad to have that continued conversation with the legislature as we move forward in both fronts. Right. I think both in terms of conversations and continuation of what we're hearing on impact of family flee, we recognize and are just appreciative, again, of the partnership, as I've mentioned, of the historic expansion we've had in access to subsidies in the state. So we then also recognize that over the last couple of years, families who have entered the program newly have not had the experience of paying fees. Right.
- Kim Johnson
Person
So we recognize the change and really appreciate the fellow panelists here sharing and lifting up personally what that means to them. So we are glad to continue exploring with the legislature whether it's related to the implementation of the alternative methodology or family fees, additional work we can be doing going forward.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
And I think similar to how we look at the regional market rate, and we pay at a percentile. It's just at the end of the day, the number we have to work with we can scale. So if we determine that it's 50,000 per year that a childcare provider needs, we can set the rates at 40,000 or 80% of the cost of care. That's just a number to show. Theoretically, we're not expecting to bridge that full gap.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
But if we have a number to work with, we can prioritize what's most important. Like are we going to, the base rate is the crucial piece. But those other elements of the cost of care can be scaled. The amount of investment for professional development, training, the planning and release time, those are all components that have costs, and those are also being discussed at the bargaining table. But I think ultimately we need to know what the costs are and that model being available.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We can play around with the numbers, but we do think that through the partnership of the JLMC, the bargaining table, and the ECE group, we think this methodology could be up and running by the end of this budget year, this fiscal year.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Just one quick other question. CCPU doesn't represent all childcare providers. What are we doing to bring in the voices of the other providers in these conversations?
- Kim Johnson
Person
Yeah, glad to. Thank you for that question, Madam Chair. Yes. I mean, part of our next steps in terms of the alternative methodology that I referenced is absolutely working in partnership with CCPU from everything on the survey design of the cost estimation model and forward. But we'll also be working with the field and the rest of the components, the early Childhood Policy Council, which is a much broader group, but with other association groups, etc.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Our intent is absolutely to work with the broader field in terms of looking at the impact and getting their input into the design of our surveys and our process going forward.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions?
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Just thanks, folks, for coming today and express my continued frustration that we haven't been able to, we've been working on this for quite a while. And so I just want to really encourage everybody to do and to the administration to do everything we can so we can resolve this issue and get some stability in the market.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
This is one of the most important things I think that we do is care for our young children, because we just, we've heard examples of the rippling effect it has when we don't do it right. So it's frustrating, and hopefully we're going to get it done before September.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Senator Grove.
- Shannon Grove
Legislator
Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you for your testimony today. Really do appreciate it. To shed light on this, I know, like I echo my colleagues' comments from Stockton that we've been working on this for a long time, and I just want to applaud the chair for making sure that this issue has continued to be brought to the forefront because we do need to make sure my kids are grown, but I have nine grandkids and 10 on the way, and they all require childcare. So it's a very difficult situation.
- Shannon Grove
Legislator
And I have young professionals that I've worked with that are friends of my kids that live in the LA area. And actually, just two days ago, she texted me and said her childcare had gone up to almost $1,500 a month. Well, that's like a house payment, but she needs to be able to pay that to be able to go to work. And so it is very costly and it needs to be addressed. So thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I also want to see if a Department of Finance has any additional comments to add to this.
- Gabby Santoro
Person
Gabby Santoro, Department of Finance no comments to add, but thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you so much. Again I do want to know, Dr. Wesley, her role in this was, we incorporated a stakeholder proposal into this panel. So it was a stakeholder proposal. No further questions. Really, thank you so much for coming in and sharing and providing this update. Dr. Johnson, our director. Johnson, you'll stay here for our next issue. Issue two. Our child healthcare overview.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Thank you, Madam Chair Members. Kim Johnson, California Department of Social Services. I'm going to introduce the Committee again to Dr. Lupe Jaime Milam, who will provide the update on the overview for section two.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Thank you. Good morning Dr. Lupe Jaime Milem and I'm the Deputy Director for the Childcare and Development Division and I will be providing the overview as well as just some highlights based on the questions that were provided ahead of time. So California's Administration and Legislator had made major strides to expand services and supports for young children and their families. Guided by the master plan of Early Learning and Care, the state has made historic multiyear investments totaling 4.1 billion.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
As we look through our first question that talks about the highlights of the governor's proposal of Budget 23,24 we know that the agenda has some key highlighted figures. I would just call out a couple bullets in regards to that. The proposed budget includes 6.6 billion for CDSS childcare development programs, including an estimated statutory COLA of 8.13%. The budget also assumes that 20,000 new slots that would have been funded in 2324 will be instead funded in 24, 25.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And under the proposal, it is projected that the 1,600 new cap slots that previously planned for the April 24, 2024 would be pushed back to April 2025 and the 4,000 new CCTR slots, which is General childcare previously planned for October 2023, would be pushed back to October 2024. In terms of there's questions in regards to slots and the allocation of slots, the Budget of 2021 Budget act funded 110,500,000 new slots in 2122 and another 3600 new slots in 22, 23. As of February 2023
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Based on the data collected between October 2021 and December 2022, the cap enrollment increased by about 37,238 slots, which is about a 66% increase. So want to take a moment to thank our partners for that because we have been working hard, our contractors have working very hard to continue to increase enrollment. For CCTR, the 2021, 22 award included a 25% of the available funding and contracts for fiscal year 22,23 and to all the 114 applicants with substantial applications.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Submittable applications resulted in about 257 million in newly award funding to serve an estimated about 8,800 children in these slots. While we understand the great need for slots and enrollment, large number of families does take time and during this first year, one of the reasons for the delay was attribute to the issuance of the contract amendment while lifting the new division. We are pleased to share great improvements in our processing of 22, 23 including contract amendments released a month a few months after the budget enactment.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And further, it will take some time for CDSs to process the significant increase in the contract amendments and new contracts to implement slot expansions. Contractors and providers also need time to expand on their staffing to process new enrollments and giving the administrative process enrollment and becoming new contractors. The new contractors were not able to begin enrollment until July 1 of 2022.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So there's also another question in regards to supplemental rates, including stipends in the Budget act, as well as the impact of these supplemental rates payments to providers. So again, the agenda covers some of these highlights. So I'm just going to touch on just a few. So from the very beginning, we have been issuing a series of stipends.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so some examples of these stipends that have already gone out the door have been a $525 stipend per child for provider or center that has been serving children as it has been serving in 2001. And this particular one went out on June 2021 and was based on November's 2020 enrollment data. There's also a $600 stipend that has a $600 per child stipend that went out in September of 2021 and was based on March 2021 enrollment data.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And the most recent one is the 1442 stipend AB 179 that was eligible for the stipends based on April 22 child enrollment data. That is coming soon, and we're processing as fast as we can to get these out the door in September.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
I'm sorry, in the summer of 2023, of those two, there's been other numerous stipends that includes also in partnership and working with our CCPU partners in regards to having stipends go out for the representative Members, and they ranged in different dollar amounts depending on whether they were large license or small, as well as license exempt for those two. And those have been going out in a rolling basis also with that too, in terms of direct service contract providers.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So these are primarily your centers for title five that we reference in consultation with the Legislator, CDE and CDSS determined that the funding appropriated for direct service provider reimbursement rate supplements was sufficient to fund the difference between the reimbursement rate of January 1 of 2022 and the funding equivalent of the 85th percentile of the 2018 Regional Market rate survey.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
To this end, one time lump sum payment would distribute to direct service childcare providers contractors in the fall of 2022 based on reimbursement categories under the equivalent of the 85th percentile of the 2018 regional market rate piece there, too.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So I'm going to pause because I know there is quite a few other stipends that I can definitely speak to and realize that we are limited in time, too, but happy to continue that any of those questions in regards to that, in terms of impacts of these stipends, what have they done on the ground? We've heard numerous firsthand accounts in regards to keeping their doors open, making sure that providers are able to continue to, in this case, really navigate the pandemic, as we know exponentially.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
There has been a lot of impact in regards to these areas, and so they have definitely come a long way in regards to supporting this too. And then the other piece is in order for providers, for providers, in order to access these stipends, they have to complete what we call an ARPA survey, its requirements from the Federal Government in order to do that.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so far we've collected about 50,000 or so childcare surveys in regards to that, which are supporting about 3,100 children, just to get an idea of magnitude itself. And then there was also questions in regards to the infrastructure grant. And so let me just do some highlights in regards to that. So there has been awards out for the infrastructure grant in regards to these. We had originally received. We were estimating that the timeline would receive about 2,000 or so RFA applications from the field.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
We ended up getting over 5,000. And so that just shows the great need in regards to that. Of that we were able to do awards in regards to those and we are continuing to issue those in a rolling basis. That particular infrastructure grant is for minor renovation and repairs and it's to support any minor renovations in regards to having them continue to care for children in regards to that. And we're continuing to process the batches in budget 22,23 there was an increase to those dollars.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so therefore we were able to issue what we called conditional letters to potential applicants. But we had to go through the appeal process first in order for us to finalize. And so we're pleased to say that at the end of this week, those conditional letters will now become award letters. And so more individuals will be able to receive now notice in regards to their final award amounts and will be included in the batch information of that too.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
As far as major construction and repair, RFA was out, that is for anyone that wants to build a center, for example, or also continue to do some major renovations for a licensed family childcare home. The key thing in regards to statute regarding this is being able to apply in a sense for a license that was increased, right? So making sure that you are adding more slots in a sense, and access in a sense to this work.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so we are currently reviewing those RFAs and we'll be providing updates then in the near future regarding that. But again, very well received and also received a lot more applications than what the timeline had showed that we were submitting. Let me pause there and see if you would like me to continue through a couple more questions regarding the agenda. This one question number five. On question number five.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Yeah, go ahead.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Perfect. In terms of hold harmless policy, which impacts childcare providers, as of June 30 of 2023, providers will be reimbursed based on contracted hours and attendance. So as you know, we don't have a new proposal in regards to changing this. And we continue to hear a lot of feedback in regards to this particular flexibility that was allowed during the pandemic. In terms of the question number five, regarding the AB 2806 question in regards to this. Let me pause and. Yeah, thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I was like, I don't have the question on here.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
I was on a row here.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Before we turn over to Department of Finance, just a couple of questions to you for the development infrastructure grant program. I know it's an ongoing rolling basis. When do you anticipate the last funding to go out?
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So the anticipation of the last funding to go out will probably be aligning with, because we just recently went through the appeals and the notifications, and it is taking several months to get the dollars out the door. And although we are pushing the dollars as quickly as we can, it could go through the summer in regards to issuing those.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you. Relating to the delays of the slots and the money coming, going out to providers. And you mentioned some of the difficulties were around just opening that new Department and contractor, the contracts also setting that up, moving forward with the additional slots that we will be getting, should they be delayed or not, is the Department prepared now moving forward to release these funds on a more timely manner?
- Kim Johnson
Person
No. I appreciate that question. And again, want to reiterate the urgency. We know that all these funds need to be issued. A couple of things I would just say is that, and you heard Deputy Director Jaime Milan speak to, is that the level of increases weren't in even one funding stream. They were in alternative payment program vouchers. They were in center based care. They were across the board, which is fantastic and phenomenal.
- Kim Johnson
Person
And we want to celebrate and recognize that we've never had this kind of investment in California. That's great and wonderful. We also recognize through this process that those who are actually enrolling families into the program needed more support. Right. And so together, Legislature and Administration put additional dollars in for alternative payment program administrators and resource and referral programs who also do the consumer education piece of where that critical choice that a family makes of where children can be placed.
- Kim Johnson
Person
So they had to staff and ramp up to be able to do the work to do this, as well as the state actually getting contracts in place to get the funds issued, we are both amending existing contracts, frequently bringing in new contractors.
- Kim Johnson
Person
And again, as all of these additional, especially the stipends and relief have been moving forward, we're asking in some cases the same administrators who are enrolling families to also issue these stipends to providers and in some cases also getting additional help to support them in doing that to expedite the process.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Staffing. Contracting, again, not only at the state level, but at the local level to take these components up. So I would say yes. Overall, in terms of the cadence and pace at which we're investing of this expansion, we are kind of recalibrating now from what we had been. It hadn't been this kind of investment. We hadn't been rolling families in this way in prior years. So we are building capacity and infrastructure.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Staffing issue positions within the Department,
- Kim Johnson
Person
And in terms of contracting process, I think we'll continue to have that conversation with the Legislature. We have in various programs across the Department, talked with the Legislature about our authority to, in some cases, have the no competitive bid, these kinds of things that help accelerate, because again, we're talking about six month minimum if we have to put things out to bid for a new contractor to come on board, etcetera. So that's a conversation I think we'll continue.
- Kim Johnson
Person
And we had some of those provisions waived in Covid, in the pandemic. Right.
- Kim Johnson
Person
These are some of the flexibilities we had. So that have gone away. So I think it's going to be a continued conversation for us on contract provisions. But I think in terms of the overall capacity and building of the infrastructure and the additional investments we've made locally as well as within the Department, we're in a different place than we were, let's say23 years ago. Perfect.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Department of Finance.
- Diana Dominguez
Person
Yes. Diana Dominguez, Department of Finance. Are you asking specifically about the slot expansion?
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Yes. To go ahead and present on the questions?
- Diana Dominguez
Person
Yes, sure.
- Diana Dominguez
Person
The Governor's Budget proposes to delay the childcare slot expansion previously slated for the 202324 fiscal year by one year. Under this proposal, the expansion of 206,500 total new childcare slots will be realized in the 2026/27 fiscal year. And this one year delay in continued slot expansion is proposed to allow for more time to implement the 146,500 slots already budgeted through the current fiscal year. So those were in the 2021/22 and 2022/23 fiscal years, as Dr. Jaime Mileham mentioned.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Correct me if I'm wrong. There's a couple more questions on here.
- Tamara Weber
Person
Hi, Tamara Weber, Department of Finance. So we were also asked to provide an update on the expenditure of federal ARPA funds provided for childcare. So we can tell you that the State of California received 3.8 billion total in federal American Rescue Plan Act, known as ARPA funding. And this includes 2.3 billion in ARPA stabilization funds and 1.4 billion in ARPA discretionary funds. Under federal law, ARPA stabilization funds must be obligated by September 30, 2022 and liquidated by September 302023.
- Tamara Weber
Person
ARPA discretionary funds must be obligated by September 30, 2023 and liquidated by September 30, 2024. And to date, the state has spent 2.3 billion in ARPA funding, and that includes 1.8 billion in ARPA funding that's budgeted in the current fiscal year. And the administration is continuously evaluating the expenditure of all our federal funds and will capture any identified balances for proposed allocation in the May revised to the Governor's Budget.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Could you speak a little bit more specific on the childcare allocation?
- Tamara Weber
Person
These numbers were all specifically the childcare. I know there's ARPA in other areas, but this was all ARPA money for childcare.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Okay, so there's still no plan on what to do with the remaining ARPA funds?
- Tamara Weber
Person
There is a plan for. There were funds for this fiscal year, and then the Governor's Budget included the rest of the funding that needs to be obligated. It's there and it's covering rates and slots.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Okay, so there's no funding left that hasn't been allocated to something yet.
- Tamara Weber
Person
There's no funding that hasn't been allocated, but there's still opportunities that the Department is leading on and constantly reevaluating to see where there's money that can be pulled back. If it's from contracts that aren't going to be fully met. We're trying to pull that money out and then redirect it, but there's nothing that is just sitting around and hasn't been allocated.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
and we don't know where they could potentially be redirected yet. It could be potentially redirected outside of the childcare sphere.
- Tamara Weber
Person
Well, all of the funds that we're talking about were specifically provided by the Federal Government for childcare.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Okay, perfect.
- Tamara Weber
Person
And I'll move on to the next question. We were asked to explain the administration's methodology for estimating the cost of the 8.13% COLA and is the COLA intended to support all childcare providers regardless of program type, or only General childcare providers receiving the SRR and is the intention to provide the COLA to Alternative Payment Programs as a slot increase. So I'll go through those the methodology that the Administration used to budget for COLA related adjustments ensures that sufficient funding is available to meet statutory requirements.
- Tamara Weber
Person
And as noted in the agenda, the estimated COLA factor at Governor's Budget was 8.13%. The budget amount of COLA funding for childcare programs reflected in the Governor's Budget for fiscal year 23/24 is equal to 8.13% of the current year funding levels for childcare programs. So look at the current funding levels, 8.13% of those. That's what we budget for COLA in the budget year.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Moving on to LAO. Thank you
- Tamara Weber
Person
And as noted in the agenda, the providers are either reimbursed at the standard reimbursement rate known as the SRR, or the regional market rate known as the RMR. Current statute requires that the COLA factor be applied to the SRR, but no such statute exists for the RMR. So for voucher based providers who are reimbursed at the RMR, the statutorily required COLA funding can only be accessed to provide additional services like adding childcare slots rather than as reimbursement increases. So I'll stop there and see if there's any questions.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Jackie Brosa with the Legislative Analyst Office. I'll provide just a general overview of our analysis of the Governor's Budget. Specifically, my comments will touch on one comments associated with the delay in the slots by a year. Also providing an update on federal funds, and then providing comments on the COLA. And then providing comments on the expiration of the federal flexibility or the reimbursement. Flexibility is also referred to as hold timeless.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
And then lastly providing an update on Proposition 64 dollarsthat are also used to Fund childcare. So first, related to the slot expansion. As been mentioned, the Governor does propose to delay the future slot expansion by a year. This seems reasonable, just given the magnitude of the recent expansions over the last two years, we're more than doubling the current number of slots, but then also the fact that many of these slots have not been filled yet.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
And as the panel noted, a lot of this may have to do with just the fact that there has been a delay in getting the dollars out and executing contracts. Specifically on that point of delay in getting dollars out. We would just flag that in our analysis. Specifically when it comes to the direct contract providers, the way that they get access to these dollars is through an application process.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
And as of February 2023, of the total $1.1 billion that we provided over the last two years for new slots for direct contract providers, only 257,000,000 was awarded thus far. We know that the department currently has completed two additional rounds of applications, so that number may go up.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
But given that, based off of past application trends, if that continues with these two more recent cycles, our office estimates that at least in the current year, there may be up to at least roughly $800 million in savings that the Legislature could score. How that's split across General Fund Federal Fund that would just require future conversations, but that's the total amount at least.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Moving on to federal funds, similar conversation is that we did have some key outstanding questions with the Administration and getting updates regarding childcare expenditures, especially on federal funds. And through those conversations, one, we were trying to get a better understanding of how all federal relief funds were going to be spent and if they would be spent by the federal deadline.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
And through our conversations and in requesting backup, the Department did identify that thus far, 57 million that was initially allocated for rate increases will not be spent by the September 2023 deadline. So as a result, they would revert back to the Federal Government. And similarly, the Department of Education has also identified that 112,000,000 of unspent federal relief funds that were also intended to cover rate increase costs have not been spent thus far.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
So they're in a similar position where if those dollars aren't redirected, they would just revert back to the Federal Government. The Legislature may want to ask the Administration specifically on those dollars that have been identified thus far.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Granted, we will get an update in May, but whether or not there are activities that these dollars could be spent on quickly, before we reach that September 2023 deadline, and then also identifying for those dollars that are expiring September 2024, just getting a better sense of the projected possible and expenditure funds for that bucket.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Another question that we asked was just confirming in the May revision if we would see adjustments to funding levels to reflect the slower than expected takeup of slots, but then also to reflect a more accurate depiction of when these new slot dollars are going out the door. And it's our understanding that we should expect to see that in the May revision.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
And then lastly, as the Department mentioned as well, there have been recent increases in federal dollars that are not currently captured in the January budget, but should be captured in May, we will in may be looking at a bigger picture, just trying to get a better understanding of how those increases in federal funds if they're enough to offset the expected needed backfill for the expiration of those temporary federal relief dollars, which right now aren't fully captured in the January budget estimates.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
So if those additional federal dollars are enough, we won't need to increase General Fund. But if they're not enough, then there may be a need to increase General Fund in the budget year. So just the Legislature may want to ask the Administration the likelihood if there would be enough federal funds that could backfill the loss of those temporary federal relief dollars.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
And then if that is not the case, would we increase the amount of General Fund in the budget year to maintain funding levels flat in the program as it relates to the COLA? As was mentioned, the COLA for direct contract providers would only apply to those providers that receive rates based off of the standard reimbursement rate. However, the way that the costs are budgeted by the Department, they assume that the COLA applies to all providers.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
So if we were to readjust the calculation just based off of the SRR providers, the Department said that the cost would go down to 20 million. So that would free up another 120,000,000 within the budget. The Legislature there are many ways you could structure a COLA. For example, you could provide an across the board rate increase COLA and utilize that 120. It wouldn't cost an additional dollar. You could use it to reduce the disparity between those providers that receive the SRR and the RMR.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
You could also just score the savings in light of if the budget problem does get worse in May. Moving on to our comments regarding the reimbursement flexibility, as was mentioned during COVID the state did allow providers to continue to receive payment for children regardless of, in some cases, if they attended or regardless of how many hours of service were actually provided for the voucher based program. We do see that there may be some merit to maintain some form of a reimbursement flexibility.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
We did hear from providers that that provided a stable payment stream for children. That especially were on variable vouchers where it's very difficult to plan on how much money you would receive for that child. So they said that that just made them more likely to take on that family and enroll that family. And the fact that that was still tied to at least a provider enrolling a child, it still attached the broader goal of ensuring that we're maximizing the number of children served in the program.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
However, with the direct contract provider, the way that that reimbursement flexibility was structured, it wasn't tied to enrollment perse. So we don't necessarily find that maintaining that form of reimbursement flexibility would continue to support the overall goal of maximizing the number of children serve, but also doesn't get at the root cause of why these providers may be facing just financial instability. And then lastly, for Prop 64, as I mentioned, a portion of Prop 64 cannabis tax revenue does go to child care.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Last year, the Governor's Budget did provide 150,000,000 1 time General Fund to backfill any losses in Prop $64 that could occur over the next two years. Our understanding is that a portion of that backfill money is being used in the Governor's Budget to maintain program funding levels, including for childcare flat. However, our office projects that Proposition 64 revenues will likely come in lower than what is budget in the Governor's Budget. So there's a question of whether that 150,000,000 would be even enough in that case.
- Jackie Barocio
Person
So the Legislature may want to ask the Administration if the $150,000,000 is not enough to maintain program funding levels flat for those that do rely on Proposition 64, including childcare, whether additional General Fund would be provided or. There was also our understanding 185,000,000 in carryover Proposition $64 specifically to childcare. So that could be another alternative that could be considered. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Really great insight. That was a lot of great information. Any questions you want to bring up?
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
No, I know it's a lot. It's a lot, right. And so I want to thank everybody, but both the finance side and the LAO always doing a fantastic analysis. And I hope Department of Finance was taking notes about more questions that we're going to have. And just to thank to the Department. I know this has been a hard few years, and it's hard because we had so much money that we're just trying to get it out, and now we're going into a downward cycle.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
So I just want to appreciate that you're managing almost two streams at the same time in this incredibly complex system that we have created to care for our kids. So we're all women here.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Let's get. Right. Let's do it.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Yeah.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Just to flag some of the questions that stood out, the most that I'd love to come back to is the $800 million that was mentioned, the 57 million, and ways that any activities we can spend them on before the deadline of September.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Glad to have that conversation in the May revision and just again, the commitment to funding that's been dedicated for children and families staying with them. So I appreciate that we'll be back.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you so much for that. We're going to hold that item open and move on to issue number three as it relates to AB 28. Six.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Welcome back.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Thank you. Good morning, Dr. Lupe Jaime-Mileham and I will be addressing this issue. So, just as an overview of the proposal itself, in September of 2022, AB 286 made a statutory change to the requirement for mental health consultation services and added a new statutory requirement which prohibit CCTR, CAHAN, and CMIG, which are title five contractors, direct service contractors from expelling or unenrolling a child because of a child's behavior.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Specifically, this bill made the following changes and so some of the changes that came is that this bill revised the requirement of the Mental Health Consultation Services Reimbursement factor by expanding the definition of an approved mental health professional who can serve and provide these services.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
It eliminates CDSS authority to determine other persons who may provide such services and instead included specific requirements under the definition of a licensed mental health professional that may be a credentialed school counselor or school psychologist employee pursuant of existing law, et cetera regards to this and providing also a requirement that the mental health professional have at least three years of experience service providing mental health consultation to children zero to five years of age, inclusive of who must be training infant, family, mental health childhood mental health services. So, it expands the scope beyond children to include supports of parents and legal guardians, and caregivers.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And it adds an additional requirement, contracting with agencies within the 30 days of contracting to ensure that the mental health professional has met the training requirement. It does require CDSS to progrimate new regulations specifically to this requirement. So, the bill has revised requirements for reimbursement of the cost of early mental health and impacts eligibility for subsidized childcare programs in California, whose reimbursement is based on the standard reimbursement rate, regarding this.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So with this new requirement, we have a BCP, a staffing request to implement the requirements, including but not limited to the development of new state policies, monitoring tools, professional development opportunities, technical assistance and guidance to the field, and collaboration with CDE in compliance with the state and federal reporting requirements, and updating program requirements and funding terms and conditions in regards to this specific matter. Now, there is a second component to that bill, which is the suspension and expulsion bill.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
This bill codifies the WIC sections 1491 and 1491.1, which prohibits Title Five programs, childcare and development services for children with severe disability programs, and migrant childcare programs from expelling and unenrolling a child because of specific behaviors. So specifically in this section it defines expulsions, program suspensions, and persistent with severe behaviors. It implements policies and procedure requirements for providers specifically to suspension and expulsion.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
It requires facility to report the data annually beginning July 1 of 2030 on use of expansion and suspension procedures, and it's subject to appropriation and would require the California Department of Education and CDSS to publish data annually beginning of 2031.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So the permit facilities to appeal any citation of civil penalties related to a child's behavior of a child, including the action of its staff related to child's behavior, if the facility is in process of complying with specific prohibitions and it requires CDSS to pronate new regulations specifically to these requirements, as well as new statewide policies, monitoring tools, professional development opportunities, and technical assistance and guidance to the field.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
There is a clause in regards to CCPU implications for suspension and expulsion, and requirements specifically to suspension and expulsion includes licensed family childcare home providers who are represented by California Childcare Provider United Union of California, CCPU, as there will be a joint labor-management Committee comprised of the state and CCPU representatives on this topic, which is required to make recommendations for potential changes related to suspension and explosions impacting the representative providers.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
We do have a staffing request to implement the requirements of this, not limited to, so BCP, opportunities of new statewide policies, monitoring tools, professional development opportunities, technical assistance, and guidance to the field collaboration, of course, with RCD partners in regards to the implementation and rollout of compliance within state and federal requirement requirements, and then updating program requirements such as funding terms and conditions, the workload associated with the planning and development of statewide data systems, regarding this too.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Just quick question for you. You mentioned the technical assistance and the guidance for the field. Is anything going to be involved regarding training of how to screen and refer children who are developmental delays to resources?
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So we're building on the infrastructure that we have right now and currently, right now we have one investment within our quality dollars that calls out specifically in regards to working with what we say quality counts California. One of the areas under quality counts California is screening of the ASQ, which looks specifically as probably familiar with the tool.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so as we're looking at the BCPs in regards to that, is to build upon that and thinking about how to make sure that not just those that opt into California QCC work, but also the field that is now going to be connected with this new requirement will be able to have access to that. And so there's definitely a need to continue to do and build upon that work.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I'm familiar with ASQ because I have a bill related to childhood screening. Thank you so much, Senator. Any question? Great. We're going to hold the item open and we're going to move on to issue number four as relates to AB 2832. Doctor, go ahead.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Thank you. So again, Dr. Lupe Jaime-Mileham and I will be speaking to issue number four in regards to the whole child community equity, and we also have a BCP in regards to that. So in September of 2022, AB 2832, also referred to as the end of racial and economic inequities in the Childcare of California initiative, mandated a whole child equity workgroup to address racial and economic disparities that have hindered the development of severe historically marginalized communities.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
By developing a process to strengthen and expand the early childhood system, the workgroup will accomplish the following goal: to help the following pieces. One is to develop a whole-child equity framework, and this framework would outline categories that are essential to support children from zero to 13 years old using a whole-child approach. This is inclusive but not limited to the access of the childcare, physical and mental health services, education and childcare adversity and community safety, economic and well-being, and built on the environment.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
The framework will also be used to develop the equity tool, which is another charge in regards to this workgroup, and so the whole child equity screening tool. The tool will be used to identify the highest-need communities across California by examining community-level data for indicators aligned within the framework categories and classifying community-based on higher or lower values for these indicators.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
The workgroup will also provide recommendations using the equity tool, early childhood investments, and the whole child resources to address racial and economic inequities, and the framework and screening tools will utilize valuable and community-level data to target efforts toward the community with the highest needs. Additionally, the research and collected data will track and identify, and help strengthen communities that have multiple compound factors impacting children in areas of including, but not limited to, education, health, community safety, economic well-being, and built-on environments.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Staffing is requested in order to convene the workgroup, develop the framework participating in research design, data measure development, data collection and data analytical supports for the tool, as well as development of the required reports.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, DOF and LAO. Any questions? Comments? See none. We're going to move on. And Doctor, the next two are pretty straightforward. Just a brief recap of those two, please. I'm going to hold the item open also. Sorry, issue number five, go ahead.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So, issue number five is a request to respond to the following question, and this is a cleanup trailer bill that would align California State Preschool Program CSBP requirements into the childcare and development program requirements by amending the WIC code. So Section 135, when we did the lift and shift, this was left out. It was just such a huge package in there.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And it allowed for the interagency agreements adjustments between different contractors with the same contract type to promote utilization of childcare and development funding and allow for matching of available unused funds with the identified need. So if you had one contractor with one specific contract that is underusing and the same, and the nearby contractor that is overusing, they can do that transfer of funds for the one time.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. LAO, any comment? DOF, any comment? Seeing none, we're going to hold that item open, move on to issue number six.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Okay? Again, Dr. Lupe Jaime-Mileham, Deputy Director for the Childcare and Development Division. This is getting easier. And so I will also speak in regards to issue six, which is Alternative Payment Programs, reimbursement rate categories, and documentation. And this, again is also part of some cleanup language that we'd like to do. This proposal would amend WIC section 102 to eight to provide clarification regarding alternative payment providers rate sheet and reimbursement rate categories.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so this specific would add language specific to license exempt family, friend and neighbor care providers that will not be required to submit a copy of their rate sheet, along with a statement confirming that the rates charged for a subsidized childcare provider equals two or less than the rates charged for a non childcare. And so it just adds that additional language in regards to the rate.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
LAO, any comment? Department of Finance, any comment? Seeing none over here. We're going to hold the item open. Doctor, thank you so much for joining us. We're going to move on to issue number seven, and these are stakeholder proposals for investment. So I'd like to welcome Denyne Micheletti Colburn from the California Alternative Payment Program to present the family and childcare enrollment, community-based alternative program funding.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Well, good morning. First off, I want to thank Senator Ashby for moving forward with this proposal on behalf of the community-based Alternative Payment Programs that have supported working families throughout California for over 45 years. We are requesting an increase in our funding to support enrolling families in connecting these families to childcare. Before going forward, I just want to make note that of all the stipends you've been talking about in supplemental payments to providers, it's been the Alternative Payment Programs that have done all of this work.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Some of the work done was supported, but not all. Prior to the onset of the pandemic, our program supported fewer than 58,000 voucher childcare slots statewide. Today, our agencies now support over 161,000. However, during this time of tremendous growth, agencies have greatly suffered in being able to support the most fragile of families with supports that they most desperately need. While slots have been added and on this point we are very appreciative, slots are always needed.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
So have requirements to implement over 80 separate child develop California Department of Education Management bulletins and California Department of Social Services Childcare bulletins requiring changes to data systems, enrollment disenrollment eligibility criteria, fee waivers, hold harmless policies, childcare provider union agreements, and monthly dues collections, most without being funded. During the pandemic and social distancing requirements, agencies too were forced to invest in the technology needed for caseworkers to stay connected with families.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Also, during the times of crisis, our community agencies deemed as essential also took on the task of supporting enrollment of a new workgroup of families, those workers who were deemed as critical and essential. Because of how agencies are funded, whenever one of the above-referenced unfunded mandates were issued, community agencies had to divert monies out of their budgets to directly support and stabilize, and enroll families. In 2022, agencies statewide were supported with a 20 million one-time statewide allocation, of which we were very appreciative.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
But by that time, the funding did little to seal the cracks that many of the agencies were feeling. Additionally, due to an antiquated interpretation from CDE on the funding of our programs, and as you just noted, our programs were moved over during the crisis to the Department of Social Services, agencies have never been stabilized and supported for all of the work needed to enroll a single eligible family. On that note, you have a handout that shows all the work done for enrolling a family.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Actual reimbursement for the work done is not done and captured till a payment is actually made, which could be up to 120 days from the start of the process.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Let's see.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Because of the interpretation on the funding of contracts that was transferred over to DSS in 2021, agencies cannot fully use the percentage allocated based on their contract in a fiscal year if some funds are to be ruled over, although there has been a recent management bulletin where that is being revisited and I understand the legislature will be taking that on.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
An example of this is in our current 2022-23 fiscal year, wherein an additional 36,000 childcare slots were allocated, but agencies did not actually receive funding to begin enrollment for those new slots until late November-January. I had shared with you that about 60% to 70% of the families that begin the process will not complete the process.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Just ask if you could quickly wrap up. Thank you.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Let's see. So I'm going to also draw the work that the agencies do to the rates. The contract funding for the agencies is also loosely tied to the reimbursement rate structure. So if the reimbursement rate structure is based on 2016 data, when the minimum wage was 11.50, the funding for the agencies is also tied loosely to that rate.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
Additionally, because, as it was mentioned earlier, there's been such a loss of childcare capacity, what we're seeing in the field are families are mostly being able to access only license exempt care, which is about $5 per hour. That means that these agencies are having to serve roughly three families for every one licensed slot. So they're doing more work for less care, an area that I really want to bring up.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Final thoughts? Stakeholder proposals get three minutes. Just any final thoughts real quick on.
- Denyne Colburn
Person
The NOAA or on the hold harmless and the family fee, we have to issue over 161 notices of actions to families in May. These families are going to be disenrolled from childcare based on these two actions in May before a decision is made. So, we would strongly support aligning with the LAO to push out any actions until September and not throw families into crisis. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. LAO, Any additional comment added? Department of Finance.
- Diana Dominguez
Person
Diana Dominguez, Department of Finance. We're aware of this proposal, but have no proposals in the Governor's Budget at this time. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Senators, any question? Thank you so much for presenting no questions on my end. We're going to hold that item open and move on to now the Children and Family Services overview under DSS. Department of Social Services issue eight. Like to welcome Angie Schwartz.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Running to get up here. Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the committee, Angie Schwartz, Deputy Director of the Children and Family Services Division for the Department of Social Services and appreciate the very thorough agenda. So I'll just jump right into the questions. The overview of the Governor's proposed 23-24 budget for children and family services. Child welfare in California is overseen by the state, and administered by the counties.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The current year budget for fiscal year 22-23 includes 9.3 billion total funds, 1.2 billion general fund to support a range of services and supports from prevention to the supports for children once they come into our foster care system, if they come into our foster care system, as well as what's needed in order to successfully reunify them with families or support permanency through adoption or guardianship, as well as support for our older youth through the extended foster care program.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The proposed budget for fiscal year 23-24 includes 9.1 billion total funds, 832.9 million general fund. That year-to-year decrease is largely driven by one-time funding displays of items that had multiple years of expenditure authority, including the pilots for the minor victims of commercial sexual exploitation and the excellence in Family Finding Block grant. The Governor's proposed budget preserves the significant investments made over the last two years, totaling nearly 1 billion in support for the development and expansion of prevention programs.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Family finding aimed at making sure children who are removed stay with their own families and extended family members, as well as the pilots for the CSEC youth, supports for our youth with complex care needs, and supports for our tribes so that they can have dependency representation and access to tribally approved home funds, all of which we'll talk about. In terms of the new investments proposed and moving to the second question in the agenda.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
There are three child welfare components of the California Behavioral Health Community-Based Continuum, also known as Cal VHCBC, that waiver, although only one is proposed to start receiving funding in budget year. The three elements are the activity stipends, which will support funding for extracurricular activities for youth in care, and the CDSS portion of that funding is for the social worker time to coordinate those services.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The second is the joint home visits for the mental health providers, and the third, which is the one that is proposed to have funding that starts in budget year, is the child and family team meetings for our family maintenance cases. Currently, supports for child and family team activities are only available once a child is removed, so we don't offer the child and family teams. We don't fund those activities in order to prevent the removal or to support the reunification of children and prevent their reentry.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so that's what that proposal is focused on. In terms of the timing, the January budget proposal for the cfts in the family maintenance cases is proposed to begin January 1, 2024. But those other two elements that I spoke about, the activity stipends and the joint home visits, are sent to begin implementation January 1, 2025.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the question about how we will engage with stakeholders, because these activities are associated with the Cal BHCBC waiver, engagement with the stakeholders, including the children and families that are involved, will be coordinated in partnership with the Department of Healthcare Services, who's really lead on that waiver. But as always, we will engage in the county letter development process, which includes formal opportunities for stakeholder review, and we'll also be engaging through webinars and work groups. We also have preexisting processes in place.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We have a peer partner backbone committee, we have a parent partner advisory committee, and peer partner hubs, which are ways that we engage youth, parents, and families that have current and prior experience with our child welfare system. So we'll be using all of those different forums. In terms of the goals of the funding, it's what I was just speaking to.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
It's to prevent children from actually coming into our system and teaming with that family before the removal has to occur, or upon reunification with a parent to make sure that that reunification is successful and that child does not re-enter our system. In terms of the update on implementation for the Center for Excellence in Family Finding and the Family Finding Block grants, we have partnered.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
DSS has partnered with the UC Davis Resource Center for Family Centered Practice to develop the Center for Excellence in Family Finding, Support, and Engagement, which is being developed to support counties in the use of the $150,000,000 block grant that they are receiving in order to expand or enhance their family finding, engagement and support efforts, the Center for Excellence has already launched in terms of doing a lot of engagement with counties, with judicial officers, with probation, with our tribal partners in order to see what can we build into the Center for Excellence that will really support and enhance this work across the state.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The goal is to make sure that we are doing family engagement activities that keep children connected with their own relatives and extended family members. We know that 72% of children that are removed and have a first removal into a relative's home are still with that same relative if they're still in care at 12 months. And that's the kind of stability we want for all of our young people in foster care. So we've done webinars. We've held seven regional convenings.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We've also formed the Advisory Committee for the Center for Excellence. We had over 100 applicants for that Advisory Committee. We selected 25 individuals which represent our tribes, our parents, our kinship caregivers, our youth that have experienced foster care, as well as counties probation. We've got a couple of judicial officers, providers, advocates, and we've also made sure to make sure the Advisory Committee is representative of all the different geographic regions of our state so that we have representation from both our urban and rural counties.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Those engagement activities are going to continue and the Center for Excellence will start releasing products such as train the trainers and model policies and programs, and as well as engaging with consultants to support our counties in this work. In terms of the update on the pilot projects to support minor victims of commercial sexual exploitation, that initial pilot was funded in June 2019 with 12.7 million of reappropriated dollars that were not used by the statewide CSEC program in the prior years.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So two sites were selected in that initial pilot. The first was the Department on the Status of Women in San Francisco, and the second the Children's Legacy Center in Shasta County. Both of those contracts ended on March 1 of this year and there was an additional investment, as you all know, in the current year of $25 million for the continuation of those pilots, as well as the expansion to a Southern California site.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we have executed the extension for the Shasta County pilot with the Children's Legacy Center and we're in the process and it will be extended soon with the San Francisco the urban-based pilot. We also have published a request for proposal for the southern-based pilot and that has a due date or an end date of May 11.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we'll be looking at the applications received after that time and that pilot will be funded for three years at $10 million, which includes more money than the extension because there's going to be those initial startup and implementation costs.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the question about the emergency childcare bridge program and the data available on the impacts of the expansion, the preliminary data for the current fiscal year indicates that the number of children unable to secure long-term, stable childcare prior to the 12-month expiration is on pace, excuse me, to be less than half of the previous fiscal year. Still, most of that data is coming from Los Angeles.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In San Bernardino counties, the decrease is likely attributable to the historical expansion of subsidies as well as the language last year allowing for the extensions beyond the 12 months, and the counties have received access to the 35 million for the expansion of the navigators, the training, and the additional vouchers. And that happened in September of 2022.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the update for implementation for legal counsel for tribes in child welfare cases and support for tribes for tribal home approvals, the first tribal dependency representation, the budget act of the current year budget allocated 5.2 million for tribes to fund legal counsel to represent Indian tribes in California Indian child custody proceedings.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
This is unique in the country and addresses an inequity for our tribes who, despite being parties to an Indian child custody proceeding, have never had public funding to support their own legal representation in those proceedings, despite the fact that parents, children and the county child welfare agencies, who are also parties, do have access to those public funds. So this appropriation addresses that inequity and the barriers that tribes have experienced when attempting to exercise their right to intervene, which leads to poor outcomes for Indian children.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The department has engaged in consultation with tribes and is on track to fully implement the Tribal Dependency Representation program and award funds by May 1. In terms of tribally approved homes compensation program, the Indian Child Welfare Act of 1978 established placement preferences for Indian children, requiring that Indian children are made according to the prevailing social and cultural standards of the Indian community, and tribes have the right to license and approve their own homes according to their own tribal standards.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
But again, there has never been funding to support that work until this appropriation of 5.2 million ongoing funding in order to make sure that tribes have access to funding to do their tribal home approvals. And we're also on track. We're working on releasing that guidance in the coming weeks and all of these programs in terms of how we're administering them in consultation with the tribes. The department created a process aimed at easing the administrative burden on tribes because it was those two programs.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
But there were also carve-outs for the Excellence Family Finding program as well as the flexible family supports programs that were allocated specifically for our tribes. So there's actually a lot of different programs that the tribes can opt to enter into and to implement.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We've created a base MOU, one MOU that the tribes can enter into in order to sort of be able to access each of those programs, tribal dependency representation, tribally approved homes, the family finding, and the flexible family supports, and then they would enter into an exhibit for whichever ones of those programs they want to actually take advantage of.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We're excited to report that they began receiving those base MOUs this last week, and close to 60 tribes have expressed interest in the tribal dependency representation and the tribally approved home programs, and we're in the process of executing those base MOUs right now.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The final question has to do with the foster care rate structure we are aware of and working to meet the statutory deadline of January 2025 and anticipate proposing a final structure as part of the budget process for the coming year. Depending on the extent of the challenges, sorry, not challenges, changes. It's an important word difference, that are included in the final proposal. It may actually take additional time to implement due to whatever automation may actually be necessary if there's significant changes to the current rate structure.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
I think those were all of the questions in the agenda, but happy to answer any additional questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you so much. We're going to turn over to LAO and then questions.
- Angela Short
Person
Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair and members, Angela Short with the Legislative Analyst Office. For this issue, we have been asked to share our overall comments on the Governor's proposed 23-24 budget for child welfare, as well as the implementation of recently funded programs. So I will start with our broader comments on the overall implementation of recently funded programs. As you heard from Deputy Director Schwartz, there have been many, many recently funded augmentations for child welfare totaling nearly $1 billion in recent years.
- Angela Short
Person
So we did just want to start by acknowledging just the volume of work that DSS has undertaken in terms of working toward full implementation of the various new augmentations. At the same time, the department has been managing various programmatic changes that have resulted from the pandemic. So just wanted to start with that acknowledgment. Within this context, certainly we would expect there will be some lead time between the legislature authorizing funding for new programs as part of the budget process and then developing guidance developing allocations implementation.
- Angela Short
Person
So, as detailed throughout your agenda, DSS is at various stages of implementation for the different programs. In general, we found it has taken around six to 12 months, depending on the specific augmentation, for the department to develop the initial guidance and allocations and begin implementation. Of course, that varies significantly depending on the complexity of the specific allocation.
- Angela Short
Person
However, we would note that with all of these different timelines and just the volume of new augmentations, that has created some challenges in being able to effectively oversee all of these new programs reaching implementation and has affected the legislature's ability to just track everything efficiently.
- Angela Short
Person
So with this in mind, we recommend that the legislature could direct the department to report on the specific steps that go into developing guidance to allow the legislature to just have that fuller understanding and be able to set expectations accordingly as to the implementation process.
- Angela Short
Person
Also, the legislature could ask the department to report on if there have been any challenges that have arisen or just any unanticipated complexities in terms of translating budget language into actionable guidance for implementation to inform the legislature's ability to provide that clear guidance going forward. Also, for those program components for which we are still working toward full implementation, the legislature could ask the department to provide more regular updates on planning progress, again just to facilitate transparency and the legislature's ability to track everything more efficiently.
- Angela Short
Person
These updates also could include specific timelines on when the legislature could expect data and reporting elements to be available, again so that we know when we will be able to begin assessing the specific outcomes of the many new program components.
- Angela Short
Person
Moving on, just a few other more specific comments regarding the CCR permanent rate structure that Deputy Director Schwartz was describing, we suggest that the legislature consider requesting that the administration commit to a specific date for sharing the proposal for that final rate structure just for a little bit more context. Since the initial implementation of CCR, we have been using interim foster care rates for resource families, STRTPs, foster family agencies, et cetera.
- Angela Short
Person
As per statute, these rates will expire December 31, 2024, and a new rate structure will need to be in place as of January 1, 2025. Given that these will be the permanent ongoing rates for CCR and will really be important ultimately to ensuring the success of CCR's objectives, we think it will be important for the legislature and stakeholders to have sufficient time to work with the administration to review the proposal for the final rate structure.
- Angela Short
Person
So we find it would make sense just to be more specific with a deadline and a timeline for getting that proposal across the finish line in time. And then finally, just a brief comment on the one significant new proposal for child welfare that's included in the Governor's budget. This is the California behavioral health community-based continuum waiver demonstration. As noted, the child welfare component is just one small piece. This is a much broader waiver demonstration that is being primarily driven by DHCs.
- Angela Short
Person
There are a few specific components included under the DSS budget for child welfare. We find that certainly the stated goal of the waiver demonstration for child welfare, which is to deliver these earlier interventions to reach children and families before they become involved with the child welfare system or before their involvement becomes deeper within the system, this is certainly a compelling goal. However, at this point, the Governor's proposal does not include specific information about the anticipated outcomes, specific data targets, et cetera.
- Angela Short
Person
So we suggest the legislature could consider asking the administration to provide more program detail for the waiver demonstration, including, for example, trailer bill language detailing the specific objectives, outcomes, implementation timeline, et cetera, so that the legislature can review those details to better inform the decision around whether to approve, modify or reject this governor's proposal. So thank you. I'll stop there and happy to help answer any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Actually, the last question you propose is the question I had, and I don't know if you have anything right now. You know, if you could elaborate on the implementation program for Cal BHCBC, if there's anything you're able to provide right now, the goals.
- Panani Kazi
Person
Panani Kazi, Department of Finance I'm sure the department can elaborate more on the overarching goals and the policies, but would just clarify that at this time there isn't trailer bill language delineating the details of this program and there's nothing provided as part of the 23 Governor's budget. Would just note the administration will monitor whether any statutory changes are needed, but most importantly, would just really emphasize that this component is really one component that's embedded in a much larger behavioral health waiver proposal.
- Panani Kazi
Person
And so any specifics or statutory changes would really need to be considered within that context and coordinated along with the Department of Health Care Services.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you. And before I go on with any other questions, Department of Finance, any additional comments?
- Panani Kazi
Person
No additional comments at this time. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Great. Thank you. Related to this program, Deputy Director, I know you mentioned this is part of a bigger plan and you mentioned DHCS is overseeing the outreach and so forth. Is there anything you can share on when that outreach of stakeholders and collaboration will begin to get ready for the 2025 year?
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Sorry. I believe that outreach is ongoing and there's been many conversations that are happening both with the CDSS teams and DHCS teams, and also in coordination. As these ideas are being developed and as what's been proposed through the Governor's budget has been made available, those conversations are continuing.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Senator Eggman.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
I would just say on all of these new plans we continue to spend millions and billions of dollars. It's really good to be able to get some metrics and some outcomes that we're shooting for to the department, the administration so that we can actually track what's going on.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
It's a lot of money coming from a lot of different sources, and I know the department is working to try to implement all these things, but it is complex and complicated and makes oversight even more difficult when we don't have a clear understanding of our targets. So really being able to identify some targets, I think, and some metrics to go along with that is really good.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
And I would ask the Deputy Director, and I know a lot of things aren't all the way finished yet, but when we're talking about, I mean, great news on the tribes and being able to keep kids with their families of origin, have we been able to at least finalize that the dollars that per child follows them wherever they are, so they don't have to be in one system and get a different rate of pay and then move back with a family and that family doesn't get the same rate of pay?
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Have we been able to accomplish that?
- Angie Schwartz
Person
That's some of what we're looking at through the final rate structure that we're moving towards, and that's a lot of the feedback that we've received. So in terms of developing what that final rates proposal would look like, we did actually hold a series of subgroup meetings to really talk about what's working with our interim rates right now as we think about how to move towards a final rate structure.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so we had, I think, 30 subgroup meetings focused on the resource homes, the STRTPs, the intensive services, foster care, what we pay to the foster family agencies, as well as our supervised independent living placements. So you can tell by the nature of the subgroups that I just said that there still is some aspect of placement-based rates. The STRTP rate is different. We've been able to innovate around that.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So AB 2944 that passed a couple of years ago gives the counties the ability to develop sort of rates outside of the traditional rate structure that are either for a specific child or a specific program that would serve a certain population of kids. And so we've seen innovations around creating, like STRTPs of one or STRTPs of two, which then you have that child supported in what would be the equivalent kind of professional staffing that you would get in a residential facility.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
But in a home-based setting where we know kids often do better. So we have been able to do that within the existing interim rate structure because of those flexibilities that were built into the statute. The funding for those STRTPs of one or two are either from local assistance or there's the child-specific dollars that were made available for youth with complex care needs. So counties have access to those dollars, but it's not sort of standardized within our rate system at this point.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And those are some of the discussions that are underway as we move to the final rates structure.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
And as we've begun doing more things more effectively to try to keep kids in their homes. How are you doing dealing with workforce issues as we're expanding the work we're doing and the number of families we're doing it with, how are you able to meet the workforce goals?
- Angie Schwartz
Person
That's a really good question. I mean, certainly that's a challenge that we keep hearing from the counties in terms of all of these investments, actually, and trying to sort of figure out how to best leverage them and integrate them into their systems is that there are very significant workforce challenges, I think, specific to the family finding and engagement dollars. We're really looking at a culture change and a transformation within the child welfare system.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And I think the workforce challenges, to the extent that we can fully embrace that change and make sure that the first placement a child goes to is with a relative or extended family member, that is a very different workforce experience in terms of if that child then doesn't experience other placement changes and is with their entire sibling group and more likely to reunify and less likely to reenter care. Those are the overarching goals of what we're trying to achieve.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
But that also is a different experience for an individual worker, right. Who doesn't have to constantly look for the next placement that that child's going to go because there's so much stability within those family placements.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so some of what we're talking about as we're implementing the family finding and engagement program is also how that would ease some of the burden on workforce right now and make for a more satisfying experience in doing this work and really getting to dig deep with that child and their own family of origin with the goals of reunification.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, Senator Eggman, for those questions. That's just one of the challenges I'm interested in hearing. Any more challenges that are coming with this implementation, I'm most interested in. Some of these programs are coming in, in a year, year and a half to two years. So I am keen to get some regular updates, and we'll be coming back to you, Deputy Director, throughout this year to get some of those. So thank you so much for this.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Absolutely happy to come back.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
So we're going to hold the item open, and the next item on our agenda is we've requested a panel as it relates to AB 2083 on the children and youth system of care. We will hear from the Department of, welcome back Director, Social Services, on the recently released multi-year plan for increasing capacity for serving children and youth, as well as three representatives from one county, Placer County, who would describe their county system of care work.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Then Susan Abrams with the Children's Law Center of California will give some remarks as well. Welcome, panelists.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Thank you, Madam Chair and committee members. Kim Johnson, California Department of Social Services I just from the previous issue area want to just recognize again the work that we've been doing together on both ends of the continuum of really preventing abuse and neglect and supporting preventing that entry into the system. But also here, as we talk about this, this is really about the youth with the greatest and most complex needs that are unmet and how we're addressing those going forward.
- Kim Johnson
Person
So Assembly Bill 2083, Children and Youth System of Care, established a joint interagency resolution team comprised of the Department of Social Services, Healthcare Services, Developmental Services, and the Department of Education. The law enacted directed the team, in consultation with county agencies, service providers, advocates, resource families, and more to develop and submit recommendations to the legislature addressing any identified gaps in placement, types or availability needed services for children, resource families or other identified issues for children and youth in foster care who have experienced severe trauma.
- Kim Johnson
Person
And so again, as your agenda outlines the report and plan for that, again, one of the major, I would say, accomplishments of this legislation to date is the collaboration amongst the state and local level partners within the system of care. We had conducted a survey as part of this process regarding experiences in supporting children with complex needs to inform our recommendations. The survey was completed by providers, advocates, and local, county, child welfare, educational, and Regional Center professionals.
- Kim Johnson
Person
In addition to the data resulting from outreach, the report's findings are based on evaluation of a variety of quantitative and qualitative data sources, including data from technical assistance provided by the state and multidepartmental match data. The key findings include siloed practices in planning and delivery. Delivering services are a major actionable cause of the gaps and inefficiencies in how systems assess and respond to the needs of children and families holistically.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Implementation of trauma-focused program models within the system of care is incomplete across the state in terms of the availability of trained professionals, evidence-informed assessments, and evidence-informed intervention models. A statewide gap exists in programming with specialized competencies capable of serving the needs of children, youth, and families who have multiple comorbidities or cross-system needs, and children and families need more proactive and holistic services across systems to stabilize children in their own families and communities and to reduce the incidence of foster care.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The committee asked about the key characteristics of youth who are served in the system of care. Over a quarter of all children in California will come to the attention of child welfare at some point in their childhood. Of those children, 10% will experience substantiated abuse or neglect, and 4% will experience the traumatic disruption of being placed in out-of-home care. Of that 4%, just under 40% of children are placed with relative caregivers and approximately 10% are reunified within three months of entry into foster care.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Most youth are also receiving specialty mental health services and in fiscal year 2018, 82,252 youth in foster care eligible for MediCal, and 31,448 youth in foster care receive those specialty mental health services. 71% of our youth receiving special mentally health services, while 19% are receiving both specialty mental health and non specialty mental health behavioral health services and 10% are solely receiving non specialty mental health services.
- Kim Johnson
Person
In terms of intersection between child welfare and the regional centers that serve youth with Developmental Services, in fiscal year 19-20, approximately 10,370 individuals eligible for regional center services had child welfare involvement, which is 5% of all youth served by regional centers in that year, while only 23% of all regional centers youth ages zero to 21 were in early start individuals in early start are 63% of the duly served youth population, those that are both child welfare and regional center consumers.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Students in foster care have been identified to receive special education services over two times the rate of students who are not in foster care, and what we see beyond this data also shows the high prevalence of youth in foster care within our systems of care is that each of these youth are served by these systems of care have experienced some forms of multiple forms of trauma by the nature of substantiated allegations of abuse or neglect, adjudication as a dependent or ward of the court, removal from primary caregiver, and entry into the foster care system.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Many foster youth have co-occurring behavioral health, substance use, developmental, relational, and educational needs, warranting support from multiple system partners. Through the work of the system of care team, we have focused on how this approach can support youth with complex needs. The characteristics of youth with complex needs are that they are revolving through multiple health care, social services, and other systems without immediate or lasting improvement to their health or well-being.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Their combined medical, behavioral health, developmental, educational, and social challenge result in the need for intensive interventions and there are barriers to appropriate and stable living options and significant patterns of utilization from multiple child-serving systems. So again, we address and identify the gaps in the need for this to be a system of care as opposed to those silos. The committee asked, how many children and youth does the California Health and Human Services Agency estimate have complex needs and how do we define that?
- Kim Johnson
Person
We estimate that about 4% of youth in foster care have complex needs associated with the trauma that they've experienced. However, most of these youth are being supported in family homes or therapeutic settings. There is a subset of the population we estimate roughly, approximately in a point in time, 300 youth have unmet complex care needs, meaning that they are not stably supported and are cycling from placement to placement or experiencing long stays in congregate settings.
- Kim Johnson
Person
And again, this is a conversation we've continued to have with our partners about that definition and through our complex care steering committee. The committee asked the key findings regarding the gaps and the joint interagency's team's recommendations. Again, these are outlined well in your agenda.
- Kim Johnson
Person
I'll quickly cover them gap one the unique needs of children and families involved with child welfare and probation gaps in providing children and families a service array that addresses the interrelationship between trauma, caregiver attachment, the child social environment, and the traditional scope of care. Gap two, essential competencies within services and supports, and specialized models of care. Gap three is around care coordination. Gap four, family finding engagement, which you just heard about. Gap five, education and school stability.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Gap six, case worker ratios gap seven, administrative processes and gap eight, data gaps, local and state.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Many of these current year and past year investments that you're hearing about in the prior panel and hearing in the subsequent panels are aimed at addressing these gaps, including funding to continue to support the caregiver approval process and reduce timeliness to approval emergency caregiver supports foster parent recruitment and retention supporting including the flexible family supports in the Center for Excellence and Family Finding and Engagement funding for the social workers to complete the assessments complex care investments that will be discussed again more in your agenda.
- Kim Johnson
Person
We also have other efforts underway to aid in the implementation. The complex steering committee I mentioned is a new intentional table that's been set with a variety of stakeholders to be focused just on this issue. How are the interventions to the committee's questions about outcomes working, and what else can we be doing to lift up best practices and implement those across? We also have continuous coming together of the system of care team. The committee asked about progress made.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Since 2020, the state has invested significant new resources into meeting the needs of children and youth in foster care, with complex needs including ongoing child-specific child welfare funding and one-time resources to flexibly support families, as well as building county capacity. The state's also invested unprecedented levels of resources into supporting behavioral health for youth, including youth in foster care
- Kim Johnson
Person
And with respect to AB 2083 and the system of care, more specifically, culture change is happening as we are seeing Interagency Leadership Teams, also known as ILTs, increasing their collaborative work to better serve children served by multiple systems. With increasing frequency, there are emergency meetings to unstick barriers for youth. Again, that multidisciplinary team is coming together to look at the needs and the case findings of particular youth and are embedding again our prevention work as we go forward to upstream and do more on the local dating sharing components.
- Kim Johnson
Person
For outcomes, all 58 counties have submitted their Memorandums of Understandings that really speak to how the local systems will be working together and partnering, and the topics of those MOUs are child and family teaming, alignment and coordination of services, data sharing, staff recruitment and training and financial resource management and others. Also, in the past two years, the system of care team supported 261 technical assistance calls as I just referenced, including those strike team calls the AB 2083 team.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The state team is partnering with the local teams and local associations to hold regional convenings focused on operationalizing the Memorandums of Understandings to better support the needs of children and families. And the AB 2083 work informs the complex care capacity-building efforts that we funded together with the legislature. And so this funding requires the local interagency leadership team to engage regarding the gaps in those local capacity of services and placement settings.
- Kim Johnson
Person
In many jurisdictions, the local interagency teams are supporting decision-making regarding other initiatives such as our BCHIP through healthcare services community placement plan. So again, we're leveraging the totality of investments in support of how we go forward. The committee asks what the key barriers that remain in meeting the needs of these children and youth. And again, while there are areas of great success, we do have more work to do together.
- Kim Johnson
Person
There still are some variances in implementation and engagement across counties with respect to the system of care framework, as we've evidenced by the technical assistance data in reports of infrequent care meetings and utilization of the MOU actually operationalizing what was outlined in those documents. Also, system change and integration takes time and commitment and is still a work in progress. We need to continue as a state to look at how the system of care as a framework becomes the foundation for other initiatives happening across the system.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The framework is the only formally mandated space that includes critical youth serving partners, and the governance structure should be maximized to allow for additional components around data and information sharing mapping to inform capacity needs locally, development of shared state system of care metrics, such system change improvements and continued analysis of data across systems to improve understanding of the intersectionality of youth strengths and needs.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Also, ongoing policy review to address any of the statutory barriers that might be at present, as well as moving the systems from just being trauma-informed to trauma models and robust services to respond to the needs and being a healing, informed culture. And then finally the committee asked the administration to describe how we're going to implement the recommendations over time.
- Kim Johnson
Person
I've mentioned kind of what we've been doing to date, but I will say that for the Department of Social Services, you're going to hear again on the subsequent panels, on some of the other work, the rates work you just heard a bit about, our children's crisis continuum pilot. We have eight grants that have been awarded in that space, the complex care funding that I've referenced. We also have the family first part four high fidelity wraparound aftercare component, as well as the prevention component and more.
- Kim Johnson
Person
The Department of Healthcare Services has the MediCal strategy to support health and opportunity for children and families, consisting of a number of key initiatives. Of course, we have the behavioral health community-based continuum at healthcare services, CalAIM the Children and Youth Behavioral Initiative and more. Also, the Department of Developmental Services has two community crisis homes and two enhanced behavioral health support homes for children in foster care that have launched.
- Kim Johnson
Person
Again, they have additional staffing to have system of care coordination amongst the Regional Centers, braided funding for Regional Center vendorized residential services, early start tribal outreach, and again, more. So again, we are continuing to look across these systems and the progress that we have to do. But as I said, we've had success and we are learning from those. And I'm sure you'll hear more from the panel on both what's working and what more we have to do together. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Thank you. So good morning. My name is Twyla Abrahamson and thank you for allowing us to present to you today about our Placer County Interagency Leadership team, which we call Smart. However, with AB 2083, it has catalyzed statewide thinking and conversation around integrated care delivery for children, youth and families. For many counties, this is still very difficult to implement fully.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Some counties have progressed very little beyond completing their MOU because it's very challenging to bring interagency teams together to actually craft new policy and revision of practice in the key areas indicated. It's important to understand that the essential nature of integrated care models will only be present if the system is able to jointly create and agree upon a shared mission and values.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Making structural changes such as colocation of partners and community agencies and the ability to debraid and share funding streams create and thirdly, create functional change at the direct staff level. So we're here to tell you a little bit of a story. So before AB 2083, we had Placer County. Since 1988, we have worked in this manner. And again, I mentioned our ILT is called Smart.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
We've worked through its systems management, advocacy and resource team to promote system change and expand coordinated services for children and their families. The organizational structure of smart consists of a policy board and a policy Executive Advisory Committee, a juvenile court judge, which is fairly unique to Placer county services, the chair for our smart policy board, so that's the chair of our ILT.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Members are also from Health and Human Services, Probation, County Office of Education, Public Health, the children's system of care, parent and youth advocacy, and most recently, our Regional Center. One reason for Placer's success is the presiding bench officer leads the ILT meetings, and they set expectations about collaboration. The mission of Smart has been always to ensure that all public programs for children and families will provide services in a culturally responsive, comprehensive, and integrated manner, regardless of which agency door by which families enter.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
So, for our children's system of care, the strength of CSOC lies in its trauma informed, multidisciplinary approach to case management and service delivery. As a team, smart Members and CSOC develop and Demonstrate Cross Functional proficiency in a variety of areas, including family preservation, mental health, probation, child protective services, sexual abuse treatment, special and alternative education, public health, substance abuse, foster placement, diversion, and program evaluation. And comprehensive service delivery is not managed by a single worker. It's by rather cross functional, trained, interdisciplinary teams.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
So CSOC, we integrate child welfare, children's mental health, probation, public health, nursing, substance use services, and education with this no wrong door policy. CSOC also locates individuals from each of these disciplines, as well as family advocates, peer partners in promotoris so that we can work as seamless teams. And our community based service providers such as family resource centers, child advocates, cultural brokers, behavioral health service providers and others round out the team.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
In fact, if you come to our offices, you may not know actually who you're running into. It may be a probation officer, it might be somebody from the community. We co locate as many people as we can as possible to make this easier for seamless teams. So one important way that CSOC is able to serve complex care high needs youth and their families is what we call our family resource community collaborative.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
The FRCC convening occurs with the youth and family present, and all service sector decision makers are present to make a joint service and resources support plan. And this is sometimes in a child and family team, but it's also sometimes in again, our family led family resources community collaborative. It is facilitated by one of our family partners, so sustainability the plaster system of care takes time and attention.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Smart policy team meets every other week at 07:30 a.m. This close collaboration is critical to ensure relationships are nurtured and any issues are recognized and addressed before fracturing the system. Trust is an essential element. Each of the system partners must rely on each other to be available to help find resources, support tenuous placements, and create stability. Shared responsibility is a must, and even with this deep partnership and extensive collaboration, Placer county still struggles at time to serve all youth.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
If one sector of the community does not feel a sense of urgency, the system will become lopsided and responsibility falls to one partner. Complex care youth are being discussed through another item on your agenda, but suffice it to say that when these youth present with multiple developmental and neurological difficulties, ongoing and severe traumas, inadequate or maladaptive coping skills leading to behavioral and sexually acting out, then equally complex living situations are also necessary and are also very limited.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Our collaboration, creativity and determination are proving to be inadequate at times to create enough community based placement for kids. But we are not able to stop trying because we need to find enough of these homes quickly enough for the youth that need them, because they need them now.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
So there are many barriers for counties to operate in an integrated manner as we've talked about, but there are a few that you should know about, including siloed and one time funding streams, overwhelming new initiatives and mandates, and turnover in the workforce.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
As you mentioned earlier, however, I think California is faring better than some other states due to the good work that CDSs, DHCs, counties, and your Legislature has accomplished in the past few years, although there are still unintended challenges from past legislative actions that hinder our ability to ensure children grow up in families and not in congregate care. But we're all trying.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
So the 2083 report reflects that we have collectively made a good start on this communitywide issue, and it also shows that we need to evolve it further. We should ask what is the plan to implement all the ideas and recommendations in this report to make actual changes? And what we know is that counties cannot do it alone. We need and rely on our state partners to evolve and shift in the same ways as counties have been asked to do.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
We need a shared mission, shared structure, and a shared functions to be integrated and aligned to make real and lasting change. And we also need shared urgency and shared responsibility to better care for our shared children and youth. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
Thank you. Mike Lombardo I'm with Placer County Office of Education, a collaborative partner in our system of care. As you've heard, system of care is more efficient, more effective at serving children and youth with complex needs. The County Office of Education collaborates and has collaborated since 1988. In our system of care, we support integrated teams for foster students, homeless students, transition age wraparound teams, prevention of CSEC, and a multitude number of other responses to community needs.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
One example is the COVID pandemic, as we're all aware, was excessively hard on schools and districts. So the county collaborated to create a team, a countywide intervention team, kind of satin, as an intermediary before the family resource community collaborative. This is an integrated team with community based partners, our systems partners probation, child welfare, mental health and more to meet the needs of students. An example is a school district may be struggling with a student may not be able to meet their needs at their local level.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
They can do an electronic referral to the county office of ED. We evaluate whether we can easily access a community based support, connect the school district and family to that support. Or should we use an integrated team process with the community partners that I previously mentioned? If that intermediary team is unable to be successful, then we refer it to our Executive level team, the Family Resource Community Collaborative.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
One example of outcomes from this process and our integration is Placer county suspension rate for foster students is 6.9% and the state average is 20%. Another example is our foster use stability rate in schools is about 80% 79% and the state average is about 65%. So systems of care work taking 2083 a little bit further.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
We've looked at Placer County and we've met the needs of very complex youth at the tier three or most interventive level and have decided to deepen our system of care into schools. At Placer County, we braid and blend funding to do that. We were fortunate enough to receive several different funding sources through the Mental Health Student Services Act, SB 82 local dollars and philanthropy dollars to create a total of 18 wellness centers in Placer County schools. I wish every school had a wellness center.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
Right now we're at 18, and these centers are places where the integrated team that Twyla described happens at the school site level. So bringing together that school ecology of counselors, social workers, mental health providers, administrators and academic staff to look at a continuum of support, what do we do for all students and staff to create a wellness campus?
- Mike Lombardo
Person
How do we help support staff and students identify needs, identify symptoms of distress, and address those needs on a universal level for students need a little bit more, we'll do group interventions, and then for students who need more intensive, more critical services, we do individual and case referral services and case management for them, building skills for the whole campus to create a space for students where there's support as well as staff. Part of the problem is that, as you've heard, funding is always an issue.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
The funding sources that I've mentioned are wholly one time funding. While the state has made a significant investment into schools through community schools and through the Child Youth Behavioral Health Incentive program, as these come online, the other funding sources are ended and there's a bit of a gap or a bridge needed. It'll take a while for Cybhi to be fully effective or community schools to get fully funded as Covid resources are ended.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
I'm getting a lot of calls from school districts saying we're going to have to lay off staff in the intermediary time before we can do a fee for service schedule or Bill manage medical. So to fully realize the system of. Care.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
There's funding to do the services, but there's not funding for 2083 or for developing a system of care and technical assistance necessary. Thank you.
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Jennifer Bloom, and I am the Director of client services at Alta California Regional Center. We serve 10 counties in our catchment area and are proud partners with Placer county. As one of those partners, Alta California Regional Center and all system of care partners meet regularly. As you've heard and through these meetings, we've developed rapport and relationships with one another, and through these relationships we're able to create open dialogue and are able to locate resources for our duly served youth.
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
Our connections and collaborative approach have led to successful outcomes where we have secured loving and stable care for the youth we serve, the no wrong door approach that Twyla mentioned several times, and that mentality really serves our youth and families well. All partners take responsibility for our youth. It's not us. Mentality is gone. We're making great progress. We continue to learn and to streamline our procedures.
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
One thing we know is that youth do not often stay in one particular Regional Center catchment area in order to finish the eligibility determination process. So we're working on a procedure and a process whereby the Regional Center who starts that eligibility determination process will finish it. This will aid in streamlining and getting services in place quickly for our duly served youth.
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
Our work extends beyond 2083 also, where these relationships that we meet, that we've developed are really allowing us to just pick up the phone and know who to call. If we have a question about behavioral health or mental health or we think, oh my gosh, I know that person from probation. Because of our meetings, I want to share a little case example of a six year old child. Regional Center and Placer county served. Born at 26 weeks and who spent 79 nights in the NICU.
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
He was placed in foster care through Placer county at age three, and since then he's learned to walk, to eat solid foods. He's starting to communicate with vocal approximations and gestures. He's gaining tolerance and assistance with his self care tasks. He loves playing hot wheels and runs those cars on tracks all day long. He's easing going, has a beautiful smile. He receives respite and a specialized bed. Through the Regional Center he receives incontinence supplies
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
through Medi Cal he receives support, counseling support through Placer County and Placer County Office of Education provides him a special placement in a kindergarten classroom where he receives occupational therapy, physical therapy and speech therapy and transportation. His aggressive behaviors have decreased significantly. When I think about that case example, we think about, that's not just a case example. That's a child, that's a life and a family, and we're proud to be a part of this partnership.
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
Within the system of care. There are things that our partners have mentioned that would streamline processes, things that we do have some work to continue doing. We would love to see uniformity in terms of a funding structure that would really be helpful in our system of care if we had a consistent way of funding. Sometimes debates, and I don't mean debates in an angry way, but just like, okay, who does, what kind of a way those debates arise?
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
And a consistent funding formula would help alleviate those concerns. And then I also want to recommend that the courts consider the question of determining and providing readily the educational rights holder information for the children and families of early start. We must have that determination in order to pursue eligibility determination and services for the children and families of early start. And sometimes that information is hard to get right away.
- Jennifer Bloom
Person
We know that that would really help mitigate delays in children and families of early start, birth to age three, in accessing services. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much, Ms. Abrams.
- Susan Abrams
Person
Good morning. Good afternoon, actually. Madam Chair and honorable Members of the Committee, my name is Susan Abrams and I'm the Deputy Director with Children's Law center of California. And we are the court appointed attorneys. So we provide legal representation for over 25,000 children and youth under the jurisdiction of the dependency court in three counties, Placer, and then also Los Angeles and Sacramento. And I've been asked to discuss what services, supports and structures we see as being integral to supporting our clients with complex needs.
- Susan Abrams
Person
And I think it's critical. I want to start by talking about relationships. So we often hear our in house psychologists say a relationship is the basis of healing trauma. Yes, we need formal services, but they can't provide the long lasting and nurturing that are needed for our children to thrive. So we see a priority as making sure that our clients have relationships that are consistent and ongoing. And what could those investments look like? First, extracurricular and enrichment activities, the pro social activities that help build community.
- Susan Abrams
Person
Also, robust investment into family reunification services. The 2083 report did talk about prevention services to keep families from being separated. But we also need to invest in reuniting families who have been separating by the system. And we see a lot of geographical disparities, like in Placer County, they pay for reunification services for families, but not in Los Angeles, and also ensuring that separated families can spend a lot of time together, including siblings who are separated. With respect to system of care.
- Susan Abrams
Person
Some of the systemic improvements that we've seen in our practice include better communication between agencies, absolutely, especially mental health and child welfare, intensive services, foster care. Those homes are incredibly effective. There's not many of them, and they're meant to be short term, which sometimes can be problematic. But we're definitely seeing those homes as being effective to serve our clients with complex needs. And then also family finding. We're really encouraged by the state's emphasis on family finding.
- Susan Abrams
Person
We're in strong support of the ongoing, robust investment in family finding, both at the front end when a child's first removed, which is mostly the focus in the report, but also continuously throughout the case. I just learned this week about a case where a client was in an STRTP and adult siblings and a grandmother was identified three years into the case. And so we really need to make sure we're doing that ongoing family finding, but we're still seeing some gaps in implementation.
- Susan Abrams
Person
I think the gaps identified in the 2083 report are very much in line with what we're seeing in our practice and we appreciate the comprehensive approach laid out in the report. To address the gaps, I'll highlight a few areas that we view as priorities. First in home support services to stabilize placements. So placement stability is key, key for reducing trauma, promoting caregiver attachment, and also it's the only way to get formal services in place.
- Susan Abrams
Person
We heard about the challenges with Regional Center when our clients are moved, the assessment process starts all over and it's very difficult to get those services in place. Yet we're still seeing lots of gaps and inconsistencies when it comes to providing in home support services for caregivers. Wraparound is a good example. Sometimes it's very effective and there's fidelity to the model and then other situations.
- Susan Abrams
Person
It's really just a weekly meeting and I know there are efforts to switch to high fidelity wraparound and that needs to happen sooner rather than later. We've also seen inconsistent implementation of complex care funding. From our experience, it's not easy to put into place and sometimes it feels like our clients have to fail up to get that funding. And we suggest that there are local processes in place where advocates and attorneys can raise up the needs of these kids.
- Susan Abrams
Person
And there's still some communication gaps between agencies, especially in the larger counties. The term complex care is very common now in the policy world, but if you say to an individual social worker, can you access complex care funding? They most of the time won't know what you're talking about. And so trying to get everyone at the table, especially for our clients who have dual diagnosis or co occurring issues and need support from multiple systems like Regional Center or substance abuse intervention, is critical.
- Susan Abrams
Person
Some other investments to consider to better support placement stability is a better continuum of funding for caregivers that Senator Eggman raised earlier. Quick anecdote one of my first cases, my client, and I'll never forget his name and I'll never forget this number. He had 64 placements and his cycle was very similar.
- Susan Abrams
Person
So he would start in a foster home and do very well, but had significant issues in school, and eventually the caregiver would have to get called to the school over and over again, and the caregiver would be afraid of losing their job and would ask for him to be removed from the home.
- Susan Abrams
Person
And I always thought, why aren't we giving the caregiver enough funding so the caregiver can go to school, so we can get the school services in place and keep the placement stable? And I think that was one of the promises of CCR, was that we would have this very wide continuum of funding available for caregivers. But I don't know that that's been actualized. And the last thing is better transition planning.
- Susan Abrams
Person
So oftentimes we see our clients moving from higher levels of care, but not all the programs and services are in place in the lower levels of care, and so those placements quickly fail. And then lastly, want to talk about some issues with STRTPs, which are the congregate care settings available for our clients now in California. I think with CCR there's certainly been huge positives, which is a major reduction in the population of youth who are in strtps.
- Susan Abrams
Person
However, we're still seeing some big, major issues with congregate care in the transition with CCR, most of the small family like group homes had to close, and so now we're left with what are really, for the most part, they feel like institutions. One criticism of the 2086 report is there really is a lack of direct feedback from the youth and the families who are served by the child welfare system.
- Susan Abrams
Person
However, page 30 of the report does cite youth feedback from a national study, and this feedback is very much in line with the experiences that many of our clients describe. Living in an STRTP, feeling shame, unworthy, isolated, undeserving of a family, staff lack training, not culturally sensitive. The trauma is not tended to in a humane way.
- Susan Abrams
Person
We need to ensure that youth in foster care are truly only being placed in congregate care when it is absolutely necessary and for the shortest time possible to stabilize and invest in improvements that include staff who are paid more and trained, better incentives to keep the facilities small, or the placement small, where children can live in homes instead of facilities and have their own room if needed.
- Susan Abrams
Person
The report mentioned small capacity STRTPs several times, and that's a term we're not familiar with and not sure how that's being incentivized. And lastly, a wider continuum of treatment providers that are available to youth and strtps. Oftentimes they're only allowed to see the one therapist who's on staff and to make sure there's alternative forms of therapy available. So I want to close by thanking the Committee for allowing me to speak today and also for focusing on these critical issues.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. We're going to turn over to LAO for any comment.
- Angela Short
Person
Thank you. Angela Short, again with the LAO. Just a brief comment to really highlight what Director Johnson and other speakers have touched on in that many of the recent budget augmentations for child welfare, which we're talking about today, we really do see those as in alignment with many of the gaps identified through the AB 2083 report. That's not to say we expect the funding to be able to fully address the gaps. And for all of the recently funded programs, we're still in the early phases of implementation.
- Angela Short
Person
So it's too soon to say for certain what those impacts will be in relation to helping to close the AB 2083 gaps. But that is something that we'll be continuing to assess moving forward as implementation progresses for these programs. Thank you.
- Susan Abrams
Person
Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Department of Finance, any comments?
- Susan Abrams
Person
No comments at this time. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Struggle, though. Great first question. I mean, we've heard this utopian, ideal way of approaching it from Placer County. I represent LA County. It's way bigger than that. I always think because of the size of the county I represent, it's so difficult to get to that. Deputy Director Abrams, you briefly spoke about that, and I don't know if this is under your jurisdiction, if you're able to speak about the attempts of collaboration on this level of LA County and if we could ever get to that point.
- Susan Abrams
Person
I hope so. As the attorneys, we're not privy to be part of the collaborative. We've asked several times to be invited to the meetings, but I think they're happening at the higher level. But what's trickling down to the actual social workers on the ground and the Regional Center workers, it's not necessarily that same collaboration.
- Susan Abrams
Person
And so I think that's part of the problem is really training the workers on the ground to engage in this kind of collaboration, making sure that everyone's at the CFT and there's really no oversight. The court's not involved and there's no oversight to make sure all of these agencies are there together. So we're still seeing, especially in larger counties like LA, big gaps in the collaboration and everybody being there.
- Susan Abrams
Person
And in Placer County, I think the challenge that was raised is there's not as much of a continuum of placement options or services available in LA County. There actually is. There's a lot, but it's really hard to know what exists. So it's really hard for child welfare to know what's available necessarily for a youth with dual diagnosis who might be able to access a Regional Center placement.
- Susan Abrams
Person
And so I think we're still continuing to see those challenges from an advocacy perspective, trying to, we can join agencies into court and we do that when we can and when we're really seeing a lack of collaboration, but it's definitely something we need to continue working towards.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. It just seems like finding a way to get to the social workers themselves and the mental health therapists who have these cases and ensure they have every single tool in their toolbox to provide to their clients.
- Susan Abrams
Person
Absolutely right. Because there is such a continuum of options now, especially with complex care funding, but making sure they understand it and know about it and can access it has been, I think, the challenge really in implementation.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Director, if I might, too. I just want to say I had the great privilege of meeting with the leaders of Placer County and seeing that model. This is part of our work at the state, is going out into communities and understanding what it is that's taking when this is really successful and working into the outcomes and metrics that were presented.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
One thing I just have to say that I think no matter what the size of the county, the culture shift and idea that everyone's coming to the table with how they can contribute as a system of care with their resources is just a critical kind of pivot and change. It's not the finger pointing of who's youth. Right. It is.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We are here to see what we can bring from our perspective into the solutioning of supports for a youth and their family. And so I think that's just a critical change. No matter, again, what size of the county, that if that is the way in which you're approaching the relationship and the goal is just key to success.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
And then one other question. I think I can't remember who mentioned this, and correct me if I'm wrong here, the Placer County pays reunification fees.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
We pay for services for reunification fees.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
For the family to go through the process.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Correct. And some other counties do not do that. That is correct. I don't know if that's been their decision making, but we do pay for services. So we try to utilize their insurance, of course, if it's for certain types of behavioral health services or whatnot. But when it comes down to it, if they don't have the resources or they haven't followed through with it or whatever we do pay for them.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
And is that a barrier? You shared a story, but it took three years for a family to be reunified with a grandma. Is paying of these fees a barrier, and why it's prolonging this?
- Susan Abrams
Person
Yeah, I think you'll hear parents, attorneys in Los Angeles County bring this up often, that both waitlists and then access to programs and payment for programs is a huge barrier to be able to reunify children and their parents.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
If I can also just add one other thing with that, too, is that we work with our partners here. We're obviously talking about CDCS, but we work with our partners in DHCS, of course, too, on the behavioral health side. And we do really need to ensure that our managed care plans and our private insurance carriers also have the same sense of urgency and the same sense of responsibility that we're talking about. We really need to broaden the field here.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
We need to broaden the partnerships so that when they do have insurance, that they're able to access it, access the services, and that they have the same array of services as well. That it's not just they can have counseling once a month, but if they really need counseling two or three times a week, that's what they should get. And that's what our commercial insurance plans and our managed care partners should also provide.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. One last question, Mr. Lombardo. You mentioned the process of when an LEA perhaps has a child with complex needs, behavioral issues, that then your County of Education steps in. Can you just dive a little bit more on that process?
- Mike Lombardo
Person
Sure. So we put a lot of effort into teaching LEAs what the local resources are. There's groups of students who are just beyond what the education district can do or the school site can do. It's too complex. And we help the district get across that sidewalk, connect the district or the school site to resources in the community. The process generally came out of the COVID pandemic because schools were still the place of support. Whether they were in session or not, they had multiple needs.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
So we responded and created this collaborative team where schools could send an electronic referral to my staff. I redeployed my entire staff in pattern to help support schools access resources, whether that was food resources, housing, child care, etcetera. We were able to mobilize that way. As the pandemic ended, we realized that was a really critical opportunity that we had not had in place. The gap remained between school sites and the family resource community collaborative that Twyla talked about.
- Mike Lombardo
Person
It was too far of a distance to get from here to here, you needed to be in a system, you needed to be on probation, or you needed to have a child welfare case. So we kept the team going. That was developed during COVID to be an intermediary way to address those needs for students.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
And in that process, did the Regional Center at any point get included in those conversations?
- Mike Lombardo
Person
The Regional Center partners, we have a core team of partners, but if we have a Regional Center client, we invite them to that meeting. And so we have the ability to identify the student ahead of time and invite them to the meeting. So there's a core group that meets, and then we make a determination on an ad hoc basis, if you will, to bring them in.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you so much, Senator Egwen.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Can somebody talk about. So I was here when we passed CCR, CCC and had some concerns about getting rid of the larger group homes and where those kids are going to go. I mean, I believe in the utopia that every child should be in a good and loving home and also understand the complexities of trying to find those good and loving homes that are willing to accept really complicated kids.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
So how have we done in realizing that dream of being able to have the recruitment of more foster homes and the smaller strps to be able to provide that bridge? So we don't read reports like we keep reading about kids being housed in old juvenile halls in different places because there's no place for them.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I don't have it at my fingertips, but I will ask Deputy Director Schwartz when she comes back up to share the specific percentages. But we have increased the placements into both relative caregivers, as she referenced on the earlier panel, especially that placement being continued.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I think we have, and it's been part of our conversations, whether it's in complex care steering Committee or otherwise, been really looking at the short term therapeutic residential model in terms of what we've learned to date, and I think to the point of other panelists here, what does it mean to have a larger number of youth that have greater needs in the same space? What does it mean in terms of the competency of the workforce and the supports and trauma, those kinds of things?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We certainly have shifted in the right direction in terms of where we know youth have the greatest outcomes. That is the goal and direction that we continue to work for and achieve. But to the points that Deputy Director Schwartz mentioned earlier, we also are looking at kind of the overall structure of those particular settings. In terms of are they actually short term? Are they actually leading to then a step down lower level of care needed post placement, those kinds of components.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And again, what else is needed to shore up the model overall? So we do have more capacity than we have youth in them. But again, in terms of the model itself, I think it's something that we'll continue to look at in terms of changes to come.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Okay.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Did you want to say something? I see your, if I might see your face.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Thank you. I spent half my career actually working in what we would call STRTPs now, which was at that time we had the level system of care, and I worked in the level 14. And I just want to say just to, one of the things that you're bringing up is the larger institutionalizing. And of course, we heard that as well earlier, as opposed to the smaller group homes as well.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
It is clear clinically as well, just when we come down to the individual child that if you have more of these children together, obviously you're going to have more difficulties because of course they all start to egg each other on and different things happen, and then you have runaways and everything else. But we also need to realize that some STRPS are probably necessary, and they're necessary for short periods of time when we have really, really high clinical acuity.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
That's just short of being in, obviously, a psychiatric hospital. And we do appreciate that DHCs and CDSs together have partnered to also provide some funding, and it'll take a while to build out through the behavioral health infrastructure continuum programs. But I do want to just realize that there are some of those group homes that we know, maybe even the lower level, more mom and pop type group homes.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
If they could somehow fit into the model that we still need, there is still a place for them as well for some of our kids and families. We just need to do them well and find out where they fit into that continuum.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Yeah. Amen. I agree. Can you talk about the difference in caseloads between Placer county and LA County?
- Susan Abrams
Person
Yeah, I'll hand that over to placer because I'm not sure you're talking about social workers.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
I'm talking about social workers. I'm just talking about the differences in the system. I mean, it's one thing if you have a caseload you can manage. It's another thing if you have a caseload that's so big you can't manage it. It's harder to come to the table in open hearted collaboration.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Absolutely. And I would think that many of our social workers would in Placer County would tell you that they are terribly overworked and they have way too many kids on their caseloads and families. And ideally, we would like to have everybody to have six or seven kids and families on their caseloads, wouldn't we? It would be lovely, but that doesn't always necessarily be the case. So an answer to your question is a little more complicated.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
When we have 11 or 12 or whatnot, that seems to be a doable kind of number. When folks start to get up into the 18s and 20s. We've had histories. When we've had turnover and different times in Placer County, where it succeeded into the mid 20s, it has been really horrible. And that also depends on your workforce. So while we deliberately try to keep our caseloads as low as possible, the workforce does make a difference.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
So it's difficult to also compare LA because they have so many social workers and so many families and children. I imagine their ebbs and flows are a little bit differently in placer. If we lose two or three social workers, then those caseloads can go up pretty dramatically, pretty quickly. So, yes, I agree. It's a piece of the puzzle. It definitely is one that we would want another caseload study for social workers, and we would like to see that come to a place.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
It's so much more complicated now. Families are so much more complicated. Children's issues are so much more complicated. Social media is so much more complicated. I think that if we were to do a caseload study today, rather than the last one, which I believe was upwards of 20 or 30 years ago, we would find that we should probably have even dramatically lower caseloads. But it is a factor. It certainly is a factor.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
And I would imagine that's also a factor then, in being able to recruit and maintain foster home placements. Because if a family feels like they're out there on their own, they're not going to be as likely to take kids.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Clearly, and having those community supports and our provider agencies, it is truly, as we've said over and over here, again, it is about those relationships. So people know that there's somebody that they can reach out and call on a moment's notice and that they'll at least get a call back or somebody on the phone or somebody out at their house to support them.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
And just to say, I'm doing some work with Dr. Galley on the behavioral health side. But really bringing the plans to the table is part of that conversation that it can't just be all using MHSA or using Medi Cal for everything. The plans that people have, private insurance, they must be at the table and pay their fair share thank you for.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Your diligence and your advocacy on that that is extremely important and very appreciated.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Related to that question just thought of something LA County Department of Mental Health is dealing with about approximately a 30% vacancy rate when it's social workers Placer County are you facing that kind of.
- Twyla Abrahamson
Person
Vacancy not today I can tell you in 2010 we were at about a 36% vacancy at that particular time I do know some of our sister counties to right around here have been upwards during COVID they were upward to 60% we are not there we are not but again we're considering a small medium county so if we lose a few then we definitely have some vacancy rates but we're not there at right at the moment I would say it's more around 12%, 12 to 15.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much any other additional really appreciate the time thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We're going to move on to issue number 10 welcome back Deputy Director.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Good afternoon. I think it was morning last time I was here, Madam Chair. Let's hope. Members of the Committee, Angie Schwartz, Deputy Director of the Children and Family Services Division. And we were asked to provide an overview of the complex care funding that you were just talking about in the prior panel. There were actually three different parts of that investment, 18.1 million in ongoing funding. We've been talking about that both in the first two panels. That's to support individual children with extraordinary needs.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so some of the members of your last panel spoke to how those dollars are being utilized. There's also 43.3 million. Those are one-time funds that have five years of expenditure authority to support capacity building. Those funds are available to counties to establish that high-quality continuum Senator Eggman, that you were just talking about to address those specific gaps that exist within local jurisdictions.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And there's also 61.3 million also one-time funds to establish a crisis continuum pilot or several crisis continuum pilots across the state. Those funds allow those selected counties that will be participating in the pilot to test the theory that if all those aspects of the continuum are managed within a single entity, are we more effectively able to support children within that full continuum and move them through the range of settings that they need to be in in order to continue to heal and thrive.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the implementation updates specific to the child-specific dollars and the capacity building dollars, for the first fiscal year that those funds were available2122. For the child-specific dollars, we received 246 requests that were approved that totaled 7.7 million. That was across 30 different child welfare departments and four of our probation departments. For current year, there have been 119 requests so far. Obviously, the year is not over, totaling 7.4 million. That's across 28 child welfare departments and two of our probation departments.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Counties are generally requesting those child-specific dollars for things that we've already talked about, sort of that one-on-one staffing, developing those STRTPs of one, some of the assessments that are needed that are often not covered by Medi-Cal, extraordinary travel costs. In terms of the capacity building, the counties have to do gaps assessment and really kind of understand and work with the interagency leadership team. You're just talking about that.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So they have to work with that team in sort of assessing their gaps and putting together their plans. So counties are in that process. To date, we've received five plans, and four of them have been approved. That's Riverside, San Bernardino, Stanislaus, and Los Angeles. And we're working with Orange County to approve the plan that they've submitted. We're also providing technical assistance and support to the counties that have not yet submitted their proposals to us.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The ones that have been approved so far would total 12.6 million out of the 43.5 million available of those one-time funds. And the kinds of things that are being proposed in the plans and approved to be built are those intensive stabilization services, an increase of the transitional foster homes, enhanced intensive services foster care. So we're talking in the last panel about ISFC, but really making sure that you have all of the more intensive services and wraparound, high Fidelity Wrap really embedded into those programs.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Crisis stabilization units, crisis residential programs. Again, startup costs associated with making sure that there are sufficient STRTPs of one within the county, some of the specialized training that's necessary for staffing.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the insights that we're gaining on implementation of those programs, I think we've been talking about those themes for the last couple of issue areas, but we are continuing to see the themes around those needs for highly specialized, more individualized types of settings that have that kind of professional support, but in those more individualized family-based models, and those are also themes Director Johnson talked about the complex care Steering Committee, and we're seeing those same themes emerge from that Committee.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
That Committee has actually developed a problem statement that we've all agreed to that sort of is like, what is the problem that we're trying to tackle when it comes to really supporting our youth with the most complex needs and have found that it's really centered around our ability to appropriately assess and treat and support youth within family settings. And our current inability to do that in some of these cases is about implementing the most appropriate treatment plan in the least restrictive setting.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And based on that assessment, making sure that we understand what's going on with the trauma that that particular young person has experienced and being able to address that trauma. We're working with some real trauma experts, Dr. Bruce Perry, Dr. Kate Messina, in sort of really understanding how can we systematize practices that allow us to really do better upfront work and understanding that assessment or that trauma that the young person has experienced so that they really can be stabilized within a family where we know children heal.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We've identified some of the contributing factors. We've spoken about those already today as well. Some of it has to do with workforce issues and continuous staff turnover, as well as just lacking the necessary understanding of what those assessments are, how to access the assessments, and then what are their appropriate interventions, and how do you access those interventions as a result of what you learn through those assessments.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So that's a lot of the sort of system work that we're trying to build through the Complex Care Steering Committee and that we're also seeing counties doing that work through their capacity-building dollars and also their child-specific dollars. In terms of the barriers that exist, I think there's always sort of a natural ramp-up anytime you've got new dollars that were in the second year for the child-specific dollars.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We know that the funds have not been fully expended, but we don't think that that's because there's a lack of need. We think there's sort of a natural ramp up as counties are becoming more familiar.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Ms. Abrams spoke on the last panel about just the need to really make sure that folks really at the practice level know about the funds and how to access funds, that there are local practices in place that allow those requests to get approved up through the chains, that they have to be approved through the local process. Initially, when we implemented the dollars, counties and probation agencies reported that the form that was created to request funding was too burdensome.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we put a work group together, streamlined that form that has been posted since February of this year, and we have started to see an uptick with a more streamlined form. We've worked to make sure that the requests that come in through the county are approved within 24-48 hours. We are quick at turning around the approvals for those requests, but we expect to see the use of those dollars continue to increase.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the capacity-building dollars, stakeholders have shared with us that one of the challenges is that it's one-time dollars. So we're trying to build capacity with one-time dollars that once that capacity is built, it has to be sustained and those dollars will no longer be available. So counties are working to identify the best way to leverage those dollars and make sure that the capacity they build will be able to be sustained over time.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And that's one of the challenges as they're developing these plans, which may be why we haven't seen all of the counties submit their plans at this point. In terms of the feedback that we've received, some of it is what I just shared with you. We also got feedback that it would be helpful to have a list of sort of the kinds of services and supports that you could use the one-time funds for.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so we worked with CWDA in order to publish kind of both a complex care resource guide that sort of lists the different resources around the state that can help support youth with complex care needs, but then also an example of the kinds of things you can do with these child-specific dollars and the kinds of things that would be allowable uses of those dollars to sort of, again, try to streamline the process and make it easier for counties to identify how can these dollars be utilized?
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And those are both published on our website. The next question, recognizing the programs are at early stages, what are the promising practices? I think we've heard some specific examples. We have our own examples of the child-specific dollars that we've seen real success through some of our TA work with the counties.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We had a sister that was able to take in her sibling that had very intensive needs because the child specific dollars allowed the county to bring in the professional kinds of supports that sibling would need in order to be able to successfully live with and support that sibling.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We also had a county have a young person who was about to be released from a psychiatric hospital who was diagnosed with PTSD, a mood disorder, depression, anxiety, and again, through a TA call, got involved with the local Behavioral Health Department and made sure services would be immediately in place to support the youth and identified an STRTP of one which was able to be funded with the use of those child-specific dollars.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we're seeing those kinds of examples coming out and sort of hearing those success stories, which I think is really promising in terms of the timeline to fully implement these dollars. The expenditure authority for the capacity building dollars is through June 30 of 2026.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And we really do expect that it will take that time to really fully develop that capacity and be working with those systems of care approaches in order to make sure that they get integrated not just within child welfare, but within all the other systems of care as well. We do anticipate that the child-specific dollars will continue to see that uptake. We're already seeing it. So we expect that over the coming years, those dollars will start to be fully utilized.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of how many individuals we expect to have increased capacity to serve, we're estimating that there's about 300 young people in any given year that have unmet complex care needs that can really benefit from the use of these child-specific dollars and sort of the specific kinds of innovating that counties are doing around serving youth with unmet needs.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And when we say unmet needs, we're really talking about the youth that are cycling in and out of offices or spending time in other kinds of unlicensed settings, or having experience of being sort of cycled from one STRTP to another and not really finding that stability. For the capacity building so far, River San Bernardino is anticipating that they'll have 21 new slots available to support youth in sort of some of these more specific settings.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
LA, 150 children, more children with 18 new specialty type programs and beds available. So we have some sense at this point of the additional capacity, but happy to come back and continue to report as we get additional plans and we sort of see more in terms of what those plans are showing us about the additional capacity that we're able to create. I think that's the end of the questions that were asked, but happy to answer additional questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. LAO, any comment?
- Jackie Barocio
Person
No comments to add thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Department of Finance?
- Department of Finance
Person
No comments. Happy to answer any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Just one question for me. We heard from the other panelists regarding the need for the social workers to know of the resources, and you mentioned partnering with CWDA on publishing those resources on the website. Is that a direct, is it related to the resources that we were talking about?
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So those guides that we published on our website, we also sent out through all county information notices. We also put e-blasts out to make those available. So it's our intention that we disseminate those broadly so that folks have access to that information so it exists.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
It's just a matter of guiding people to this website to see the resources.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Exactly. We created a complex care landing page on the department's website that includes not just those two resources, but webinars and trainings, all the ACLs, all the fiscal letters, so that it's all in one place and you don't have to go looking for it.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much, Senator Eggman.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Just, do you know, are county employers using that in various counties?
- Angie Schwartz
Person
I mean, I don't know the answer to that. Okay. I hope so.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
But that'd be interesting, right? If people are just bearing, just trying to dig their way out of a hole, if they're actually using the resources that you've created.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Right.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. No further questions. Thank you so much. You're on here for issue 11.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Yes, I think we're all stay.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Welcome back. Please present.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Well, the next issue is really talking more about those dollars. So the crisis continuum pilot, and the first was just asking for an overview of the pilot, I'm sorry, of the trailer bill that we've proposed for continuing the pilot for a couple of more years. And the intent of that trailer bill is to allow the crisis continuum pilot to actually operate for the full five years as intended by the authorizing statute. It effectively extends the pilot from June 30, 2026 until June 30, 2028.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We've selected the eight pilot sites. But the request for applications was really complex in nature and in order to sort of do the kinds of engagement that we needed to do with the counties and with the stakeholders, and that was a jointly developed request for applications with the Department of Healthcare Services, we had to dedicate more time to putting that together than we had originally anticipated and that the statute contemplated.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In addition, once it went out, the applicants actually wanted and requested additional time in order to develop the kind of robust proposals that the application required. And so the deadline for submitting applicant's applications was also extended. And as a result of that, the pilot sites were just selected in the first quarter of this year and we have the eight pilot sites selected, but they're just going to start implementing in quarter two of 23-24.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we do want the full five years of being able to test that pilot and to be able to effectively evaluate it. And so that's what the proposed trailer bill would enable us to do. In terms of how the model addresses the gaps identified in 2083, we really find it consistent. I mean, this is about developing a trauma-informed system of care with the intensive care, the qualified supervision, all managed within sort of one continuum, so within one entity.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we're just talking about sort of the need to be able to know, how can you make sure that you've got that level of coordination, everything from the crisis residential program into the intensive services that the child's provided in a family setting, and be able to de-escalate the sort of circumstances in which individuals are experiencing those mental health crises in order to prevent those hospitalizations and any other unnecessary interactions with law enforcement.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So this is all about piloting a different way of doing that and creating a network of services for our young people that require the highest level ssof intervention and the ability to move more efficiently between the levels of services that they need in terms of the implementation, like I said, we've selected eight counties.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
There were eight counties that applied and we decided that we would award all eight of those sites the ability to participate in the pilot, and many of those sites are doing it in collaboration with other counties. So we've got San Francisco collaborating with Solano, Marin, Contra Costa, and Sonoma in order to develop a crisis continuum pilot. Fresno, in collaboration with Madeira, Stan's laws, in collaboration with San Joaquin and Merced. Three counties are doing their pilots alone. So that's San Diego, Los Angeles, and Monterey.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And then we also have San Luis Obispo in collaboration with Santa Barbara and Riverside in collaboration with San Bernardino. So we're excited that we've got sort of that breadth of counties that are participating in the pilot. They're working on their final work plans right now.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And as I said, we expect that those dollars will start flowing and the pilots will start to be developed. In terms of the interaction between the crisis continuum pilot and AB 20317 which created the children's psychiatric residential treatment programs, the PRTFs are really a new medical facility type intended to provide the least restrictive alternatives to hospital settings for youth that need inpatient psychiatric care.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So a more specialized population than who served in the crisis continuum pilot, which could be youth that are not just in need of sort of those psychiatric inpatient type settings. It's also a completely different licensing category, which hasn't been developed yet. So DHCS is in the process of developing the standards for that licensing category. So likely the PRTFs and the crisis continuum pilots will be being stood up at the same time.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
The crisis continuum pilots are using existing licensing authority to sort of stand up the kinds of things that we already have as part of our licensing structure. So that's the crisis stabilization units, the crisis residential programs, the psychiatric health facilities, the intensive services foster home, and other community-based resources. And I think that might be the end of the questions on this one, but happy to answer any additional questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
LAO, any comments?
- Jackie Barocio
Person
Just regarding the proposed trailer BIll, we have reviewed the language and have no concerns to raise at this time.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Department of Finance.
- Department of Finance
Person
No comments. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Great. Thank you so much. Seeing none, we're going to move on to issue number 11 and hold that item open. 12.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Just kidding. We're going to move on to issue number 12 and hold that item open. Go ahead, Deputy Director.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Great. This issue is on our proposal around the adoption facilitator unit. And the first question was asking us to describe how the adoption facilitators and the adoption facilitator registry are distinct from the licensed adoption agencies and to sort of describe the existing law. So in terms of the existing law, the adoption facilitator program was first established in 1996. It was sponsored by the Academy of California Adoption Lawyers, and the goal was to assist connecting children with families that were interested in adoption.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Leading up to 2006, there were reports of fraud and abuse and sort of exploitation of families, both the birth parents and the prospective adoptive parents. And so there were further legislation that was passed to provide better protections for families against misleading advertising and to ensure consistency among the educational and background requirements for facilitators.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Our proposed trailer bill language seeks to further expand those protections by establishing true oversight and accountability of the adoption facilitators by making facilitation or registry through the, I'm sorry, making the registry of adoption facilitators a requirement, and then also establishing the complaint process in tandem with an investigation and review mechanism. Regarding the distinction between facilitators and private adoption agencies and adoption attorneys, the difference is primarily around the role that they play.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So the adoption facilitators are not finalizing adoptions, they are just doing the matching component between the birth parent and the prospective adoptive parent or family. Whereas the independent and private adoption agencies, as well as the private adoption attorneys can do all of those things, they can do the matching, but they also are primarily focused on the work to finalize those adoptions themselves.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the changes that we're seeking through the proposed trailer bill, we believe we need additional oversight of the facilitators in terms of their interactions and agreements that are being made with the prospective adoptive parents.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We also need to be able to have increased accountability, so making sure that the facilitators are registered and that we can do annual re-registration so that we can have some sense of who these facilitators, how many of those matches that are being made, and the kind of work that they're doing, as well as be able to have that formal complaint process in place. We've never had the staffing within the Department to really be able to.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We can take complaints right now, but to do those formal investigations and assess the civil penalties that the statute would contemplate, those are some of the additional authorities that we would have through the proposed trailer bill. In terms of the fact that some states actually just banned adoption facilitators. And our approach is to strengthen the oversight of our adoption facilitators. The Legislature implemented the statutory scheme around adoption facilitators.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
As I mentioned in answer to the first question, we are really seeing that we need to have heightened, if that's how we're proceeding, you need to have the heightened oversight and really the things that we've proposed in the trailer bill in order to really do the effective oversight of those individuals and make sure that they are not defrauding families, the birth parents, or the prospective adoptive parents.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
If we were to go the route of banding it all together, that would have required an entirely different statutory scheme. You would still need to figure out what's the oversight entity that would then make sure that individuals aren't acting outside the scope of the law and have sort of the oversight and ability for some entity to regulate that as well.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
I guess I would just say like, no matter what, in order to have oversight of the practice, there needs to be extensive statutory scheme developed. In terms of the plan of operation and what that would entail. It would provide us a more clear understanding of what the adoption facilitators are proposing their services would be and how they would have relationships with their clients, both the prospective adoptive parents and the birth parents.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
It would provide crucial information about how payment and services are exchanged and ensure more transparency in the operation and compliance with the legal requirements. And it would also enable us to have an annual review of those plans of operations. We do have a plan implemented to start gathering data about the adoption facilitators through those annual reviews.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so that would be the way in which we would be able to learn more about the number of adoptions that are finalized and sort of the relationships and how the dollars are being exchanged. I think that that's all of the questions that were asked.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Yes. Thank you so much. Stakeholders have expressed concerns with this proposal. So at this time, I want to welcome Jill Jacobs with family builders to present these concerns.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
Good afternoon, Madam Chair and senators and members of the committee. I am Jill Jacobs. I'm the CEO of Family Builders and I am chair of the Adoption Committee of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services. Family Builders provides foster care, permanency and adoption services for children and youth in foster care.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
The California alliance represents over 160 nonprofit, community based organizations that provide services to children, youth and families across the state, including licensed adoption agencies that support children and youth in foster care, as well as services to birth parents. Adoption agencies are licensed by the Department of Social Services and are bound by an extensive regulatory structure.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
The current interim licensing standards to approve and monitor and support prospective families caring for children in foster care is 337 pages of regulations, educational experience requirements, regular monitoring by the state, national accreditation, and strong ethical standards. This is a sharp contrast from the practice of adoption facilitators, who are the only entities who can provide Child Welfare Services that are unregulated, unlicensed, not accredited, have no oversight or accountability, and therefore can prey upon vulnerable prospective adoptive families and birth parents.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
Independent adoptions were originally structured for situations where the birth mother could choose someone she knew to adopt her child. However, over time this has been exploited as a profitable business. Baby brokers, both birth parents and prospective adoptive parents are extremely vulnerable in this process. Both are often in very desperate situations, which increases their risk of exploitation. Adoption facilitators, of which there are currently 14 in California, must be registered with the state, which on CDS's website clearly states.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
Listing on the website is not intended to be an endorsement by any means of the Department of Social Services, and it also states that CDSS does not provide oversight over adoption facilitators. Adoption facilitators are less regulated than nail salons, although they have the lives of children and vulnerable families in their hands, which should require strong regulation, accountability and ethical standards. An example is a child's dreams, the name of adoption facilitator. It states on their website that they're a licensed adoption facilitator.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
That's a status that does not exist. It's misleading. The California alliance respectfully requests the legislature reject the budget change proposal and trailer bill language, which would marginally increase oversight of adoption facilitators, and instead take a stronger stance to prohibit the practice of adoption facilitators.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
At the bare minimum, if the legislature decides to continue the practice of adoption facilitators, we recommend that all be fingerprinted and criminal record cleared through the CDSS background check process, have home study or family evaluation that fees the facilitators require be approved and regulated by CDSS, just as they are for adoption agencies, and that facilitators should be required to inform both birth parents and prospective adoptive parents of their rights, obligations, complaint process fees, and other aspects of the process through a signed statement of understanding.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
Thank you for the opportunity to testify before you, and I'm happy to answer any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. LAO, any comment?
- Angela Short
Person
Yes, thank you. Given the current structure of the adoption facilitator program, we find that the administration's BCP and trailer bill language request seem reasonable to again implement the statute as it is written and would improve oversight, as Deputy Director Schwartz described, including by requiring registration and other actions.
- Angela Short
Person
However, as we just heard and as is detailed in your agenda, we also recognize there are much broader concerns about the adoption facilitator program overall, including whether this is an effective program or one that the state should continue to allow. We are still in the process of working to make sure we fully understand all of these concerns, as well as the role that the adoption facilitators play in the overall adoption process.
- Angela Short
Person
So at this point in time, we would concur with the staff recommendation to keep this open to allow the legislature to continue considering a range of options, whether in addition to the administration's current proposal or other potential other statutory changes. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Department of Finance.
- Department of Finance
Person
Department of Finance. We are aware of the advocate proposals in this area. At this point, can't comment on anything outside of the Governor's Budget, but happy to continue engaging on these issues.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you so much. This item and I appreciate we will be holding this item open for further discussion and significant gets a more restrictive manner of oversight. I'd like to hear what the oversight looks like, because from my understanding, it's a reactive enforcement and we're operating within the parameters of this perhaps illegal parameter. Right. The registration still happens. This isn't going to add registration. They're already registered. They're unlicensed.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
And I find it difficult to continue allowing an entity that if it no longer existed, families would still be able to adopt in a more safe and regulated manner. So if you could just talk a little bit more about the actual enforcement.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Here in terms of the current way.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
That it's enforced, the proposed enforcement.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Okay. In terms of the proposed enforcement right now, there is the ability to register as an adoption facilitator. They're not all even registered at the moment. It's not a requirement. So one of the things that the proposed trailer bill would do is require that registration and we would be able to assess fees against those individuals that failed to register but were engaging in the practice.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So that's our foothold into being able to know who exactly is engaged in this work in the first instance, and then be able to sort of have, what's it called? The plan of operation would also enable us to get more information about the work that those individuals are intending to do, how they're collecting fees. I think similar to what Ms. Jacobs was just talking about would allow us to see what's your plan of operation? What are you planning on doing?
- Angie Schwartz
Person
How much are you planning on charging those kinds of things, and be able to at least engage in that work of understanding what the facilitators are doing, and then also be able to receive complaints, be able to do full investigations of those complaints, offer the requisite due process, but also be able to assess the civil fines and penalties against individuals that are engaging outside of what the law would allow. So those are the additional ways that we see working.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Again, I think, as Ms. Short pointed out, working within sort of the statutory structure that's been created within California and having increased oversight and the ability to actually manage that way of how adoption facilitators have been created within California.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Just quick clarification. You'd be able to see the fees, but as it proposed, wouldn't need to approve them.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We would have to approve the program, the plan of operation, and it would be embedded within that. So we would be approving that plan of operation.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Given the recent article on the SAC B, you can see where my concern is. Approximately $250,000 out of 12 families, and not a single adoption came out of that. So there's a lot of concern within this BCP, and I'll leave it at that. Senator Eggman, if you have anything to add.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Yeah, just to say that, embarrassingly, I wasn't even really aware that we had this going on in the state. And I wonder how many other, are there other states that use this kind of facilitator?
- Jill Jacobs
Person
Many have prohibited them and outlawed them. I don't know how many currently allow it or if it happens without regulation or without permission, but a number of other states have discontinued the practice.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Yeah. So I would just say that I would agree with Ms. Jacobs that if we are going to fund this, that we really need to get some teeth into it and bring it up in line with other things that we oversee and regulate. And I won't be here for the years to come, but this is an area that I think really should be taken on, and we should not have these kinds of folks out potentially selling babies.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
No, absolutely. I do want to see more teeth. I'll take your words there. I do want to see more know I am receptive to some of the suggestions that Ms. Jacobs proposed in terms of the fingerprints and so forth. I want to see you did mention approving the overall plan, but I really want to make sure that the fees are being specifically approved and moving forward with them and the families know their rights.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
If I was a mean, I do have a family, but if I was looking to adopt someone, if I went on an official state website and I see this list there, I would assume they have the complete green light by the State of California. So you can see it could be misleading when know I'm really trying to create a family with children and so forth. So I just want to make it clear for our families.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
I think the other thing, if I could add would be the credentials of the people making these decisions. In licensed adoption agencies, we have to have master's level social workers. That's required, and there's no requirement around educational requirement at all for adoption facilitators.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. See no additional comments. We're going to hold this item open and move on to issue number 13 as it relates to AB 1735, and I'll welcome Mr. Fluharty. Welcome, sir.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
Thank you. Ah, Madam Chair and Members of the Committee, good afternoon. Larry Fluharty, California State Foster Care Ombudsperson and I'm here to talk about the BCP regarding AB 1735, regarding language access for foster youth Bill of Rights. And so most of the background of the Office of the Foster Care Ombudsperson is described in the agenda.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
But I will state that the Office of the Foster Care Ombudsperson and I will start saying OFCO, because it's much Shorter, is an autonomous entity within the Department of Social Services, which is housed in the Office of Equity. And our role in part is to receive and investigate complaints regarding care placement and services for foster youth who are in care, and to resolve those complaints either informally or formally.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
So one of the mandates of the OFCO is to create and distribute materials describing the foster youth Bill of Rights in age appropriate language. And the Bill of Rights was created more than 20 years ago. It had 21 rights, and it was updated in 2019 with AB 175 and increased it to 41 rights.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
And at that point, all of the materials which had been developed in 2002 were updated to include the new rights and were released to include a poster, a coloring book, a handbook, and a trifold pamphlet of the rights. So at that time, in 2021, when they began distribution of those rights, we had translated it into Spanish, so we had English and Spanish versions.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
And the social workers are required, or the probation officer, whoever is responsible for the use, is required to provide a copy of the rights in our material produced by the OFCO every six months, every time the child enters care, or every time they have a change in placement. And what has changed is that AB 1735 added the requirement that the rights be provided in the youth's primary language, as well as that they be provided and discussed with the youth.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
And in addition, it also added the requirement to the Bill of Rights, that it became a right to have those rights. So it modified the Bill of Rights. And as a result of that, the Bill of Rights will need to be updated, and we'll need to update our material.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
So the overall purpose of the BCP is for the Office of the Foster Care and Budsperson to be able to implement the legislation, which was a language access bill, which was created to offer greater access to those who speak languages other than English, to know what their rights are, and also to receive certain other documents, case plan and court reports in their primary language.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
So the OFCO is required by statute to consult with a fairly diverse group and broadly defined group of community members of youth and organizations who work with foster youth to develop the materials. And the materials need to be created in a way that is age appropriate for the youth. And the purpose of the BCP is for us to do that work and to create those, and also because now we have the requirement to translate them, to translate them into the primary languages.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
And so the plan is for us to translate initially, in addition to Spanish, into 16 other languages that are identified through different data sources as being largely used within the fosters community. And then whenever another language is requested, that we would then translate into whatever language is requested, and we would make those available as downloads on the Foster Care Ombudsperson's website, and print copies would be available upon request. The point is to really identify the language spoken at home by the youth.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
And this is consistent with the mission of the Administration, the mission of DSS and the agency to provide greater access to all Californians and to bring about knowledge to foster youth of what their rights are in writing on a regular basis. And that is my overview of the proposal. If you have questions, please let me know.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. LAO, any comment?
- Angela Short
Person
We have no concerns with this BCP.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you.
- Jill Jacobs
Person
DOF.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. No comments or questions on my end. Thank you so much. We're going to hold the item open. We're going to move on to issue number 14.
- Lawrence Fluharty
Person
Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I Welcome back, Deputy Director.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
I keep walking over there. There's a door right here's. Good afternoon again, this issue is around the Family First Prevention Services Act. And to put it in some context, Family First Prevention Services Act, which passed by the Federal Government in 2018, is about what California has been working to do since initiation of the continuum of care reform.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So it's all about how can we make sure children are residing in family settings, reduce our reliance on congregate care, and actually make sure that we're doing much more effective prevention work in keeping children from ever being separated from a parenting, coming into the child welfare system at all. So there were two different kinds of funding so similar to that.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And before I sort of dive into that, I think there was a question in the system of care panel about sort of how we have been doing on those efforts. And I would just say we have seen an increase in first placements with relatives and extended family members. And when we've really honed into this work in California, we've really said that it needs to not just be a family placement, but a placement within the child's own family.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so we've gone from 27% of children with first placements with relatives in 2017% to 34% in 2021. Predominant placements with relatives, which is mean, that's where they spent most of their time while they were in care, was with a relative, went from 39% in 2017% to 49% in 2021. And for those kids that have that initial connection to relatives, the vast majority, three quarters of them, don't experience placement changes. They're still with that same relative. And we looked at the data for what that happens.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
When the child's have a first placement with a non relative, those kids are four times more likely to not just experience placement changes, but four or more placement changes within that same 12 month period of time. So we really see the impact of doing this work and making sure that we're connecting kids to their own family Members. We also know that 70% of children with relatives are with their entire sibling group. So not some of their siblings, all of their siblings.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And that's compared to just 52%, I think, of kids with non relatives. So those kinship placements are really impactful. Family first, in particular, is focused on two different interventions. We often talk about part one and part four. Part one is the prevention side of the Family First Prevention Services Act.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
That's the part of the law that's optional to states and gives us the ability, if we so choose, to start drawing down federal funds, title four e funds, to support prevention services so that children never are removed, don't have to come into the system at all. We've obviously opted to take advantage of that. It required the development of a five year prevention plan that had to be approved by the administration for children and families.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
I'm really pleased to announce that it just was approved on April 7, last week or two weeks ago, very recently, after three different rounds of submissions to ACF, as they sort of continued to have questions and comments about our proposed plan. So we submitted our first plan to them back in, I think, August of 2021, and then the second proposal was submitted in November, and then we just got our plan approved on April 7. So we're really excited to be able to start that implementation.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
California didn't wait for those federal funds to become available. As you know, in the 2021-22 fiscal year, there was the 222,000,000 of funding appropriated for prevention work within California with a block grant that has been provided to our counties. So counties are already taking advantage of those dollars. 50 of our counties have opted to receive that block grant funding and start to provide those services.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
That's one time funds that are available for five years of expenditure authority, and it's really to help them prepare to be able to transition to receiving some of these prevention dollars through the four e source of funds that will become available once we fully implemented all of the different elements that are required to be implemented in order to start drawing down those federal dollars. In terms of the other part of family first that we frequently talk about, that's part four.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
That was a required component of the law. So we were required to implement the provisions that were in part four that were really focused on restricting the use of congregate care settings for young people, which, of course, we had already started that work through CCR, the federal family first law imposed essentially five new requirements on our continued use of strtps. And so if we hadn't come into compliance with those five requirements by October of 2021, we would have lost federal funding for those placements.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
Those five requirements were making sure there's a qualified individual to assess the appropriateness of the placement, and then there also has to be court approval of those placements, additional court reporting, hearing, and review requirements, the ability to have 24/7 nursing services available to children in those settings, the offering of aftercare services to children that are stepping down from those settings for a period of six months, as well as new case plan requirements.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
All of those elements were implemented by October of 2021 so that the federal funds could continue to flow for those placements. Happy to answer any additional questions about the implementation of those elements, if there are any. In terms of the 222,000,000, I think I already jumped ahead and answered that question in terms of the kinds of prevention services that counties are proposing as part of those comprehensive prevention plans. We've seen that the counties are in various stages, and I guess I should jump back.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we've had 50 counties indicate that they are intending to participate and take advantage of the startup dollars that have been available for the Prem prevention planning. Counties have until the end of July to submit their comprehensive prevention plans, which is a requirement within the statute to continue to participate in that state funded block grant program.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So counties are in various stages of actually preparing those comprehensive prevention plans and sort of looking at how are they going to utilize not just those block grant funds, but also their other title four b funds, their Medicaid dollars, their TANF dollars, the new 4E dollars that will be available.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
There's lots of different funding streams that can support prevention work, and we're really asking counties to engage in looking comprehensively and working with their system of care partners and working with their tribes in order to really look at where are there gaps within their local continuum and how can these dollars help to fill those gaps, and what is prevention going to look like in that county? So we've had five counties that have completed a community needs assessment and asset mapping.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
We've had 14 counties who are in the progress of developing their goals and strategies and work plans. We have 24 counties that are really working on addressing that disproportionality within their systems and developing those aspects of their plans. So counties are in sort of various stages. We expect to start receiving those comprehensive prevention plans coming in, obviously in the coming months, and they're due to us by the end of July.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
In terms of the data system that will be able to track the prevention spending on a per child basis. That's one of the requirements, to be able to start drawing down the federal dollars on a per child basis. So we have to be able to track exactly how much was spent in terms of those prevention services for that particular child, and that is scoped to be part of our functionality within CWS cares version one.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
And so that's when we expect that that per child claiming and tracking can happen. We can start claiming the 4E admin dollars for prevention services now, and we can claim those back to October of 2021. But the per child spending and being able to claim $40 on that per child basis requires us to have to be able to do that individual data tracking, and that functionality is being built into CWS cares.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
That is not the only thing that has to be implemented in order to be able to do the per child claiming with these new federal dollars. So like I said, we're really excited that the prevention plan has been approved. But now we have to work to make sure that we get the appropriate guidance to the counties on the payer of last resort rules.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
One of the limitations in the federal dollars is that the title IV funds are the payer of last resort, meaning if you can claim Medicaid for the service, you have to use Medicaid first. The kinds of services that are available with the New Federal Dollars are limited to substance use programs, mental health treatment programs, and in home supportive services programs. So you can see from the nature of those three categories, many of them are programs that do qualify for Medicaid spending.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we are working with DHCs through a work group process to sort of develop those pair of last resort rules and make sure that we know which of the four e services that we're able to offer, which parts of that can be claimed with four e, and which parts of that can be claimed with the Medicaid Dollars. So that's another thing that we have to work through in order to start claiming these new federal dollars.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
You also have to offer one of the services that's available in the Flora prevention clearing house, and you have to spend a certain portion of your allocation on well supported practices. So there's a lot of different guidance that still needs to be developed and released to make sure that we're doing the appropriate claiming and tracking that we're offering the services and that we're using the right funding source in terms of what actually pays for that service.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So we're in process of developing all of those things right now, which is a long way of answering the last question about how long it's going to take or how much federal $40. Are we foregoing not having that capacity right now? And I would say I don't know that there's a clear answer to that. But we know all states are struggling with this.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
So the recent federal HHS budget and brief states that in 2022 fiscal year 2022, 6400 children across the entire country received bore prevention services. And that is because there are so many requirements that have to be implemented in order to start claiming those. So I know, like us in California. Other states are also in the process of developing all of those different mechanisms.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
But I don't know that we know how many actual federal dollars, all of the federal dollars that we would want to claim require us to have that capacity. We did estimate that about 60 million in federal reimbursements would be available for prevention services based on the block grant funding that was authorized in the 21-22 budget.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much, Deputy Director. LAO, any comment?
- Angela Short
Person
Yes, just one point to add for FFPSA. We did just want to note that as part of the 2022-23 budget package, the Legislature included supplemental report language for FFPSA. According to that language, the Department will be sharing a report with the Legislature providing more specific data outputs and other updates related both to the newly implementing prevention services as well as the newly required elements that Deputy Director Schwartz described, such as the new court reporting requirements, nursing services, et cetera.
- Angela Short
Person
Based on that language, the report was requested as of February. The department has needed some additional time, but we expect the report will be available soon, very soon, and the department has also very kindly agreed to provide a briefing for legislative staff when the report is available. So just a note that we'll be looking forward to receiving that report when it's available.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Department of Finance?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Nothing further. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Nothing further on us. Thank you so much for that update. We're going to move on to issue number 15.
- Angie Schwartz
Person
You're done with me.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Like to welcome Rachel Trusti, and Cynthia Tocher, Talker.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Good afternoon. Thank you very much for having us. My name is Cynthia Tucker. I'm a Deputy Director with the Office of Systems Integration, overseeing the Child Welfare Digital Services, which includes the CWS Cares project.
- Rachel Trustee
Person
Good afternoon. Rachel Trustee from the Child Welfare System branch, part of the California Department of Social Services.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
So we were asked to come and kind of provide an overview and answer a couple of questions with regards to this project. So the goal for the CWS care system is to replace the existing Child Welfare Services case management system, which is used by our 58 counties for child welfare. The goal is to meet both the programmatic or reporting needs that the legacy system can't keep up with.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
And it's also to ensure that we can continue and more broadly support as child welfare, as legislation and things change, that we're able to actually support the program and the work that's on the ground. The system, it's not a singular replacement, because with the CWS CMS and there's a gap between what it can accomplish or what can it do and really what the workers need.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Our goal with this new system is to not just provide the functionality, but it's also to minimize and close that gap, which has required a lot of external systems and a lot of workarounds for the counties. There was a question about providing an update on the project, what's been accomplished over the lifetime?
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
So in 2019, the project completed a statewide rollout of a small system that had three product feature sets and it's called the Cares live application and it consists of a tool for the child and adolescent needs and strengths assessment facility search, which allows a user to search for both licensed placement facilities as well as county approved homes. And then the child welfare History Snapshot, which provides ability to search for clients, view relationships, demographics, gives a little bit more information.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
In February 2022, the project completed a proof of concept, or what we call the Greenfield module, and that was for the resource family approval, application submission, review and approval process, rather long. We call it the RFA application just to shorten it a bit. So we implemented that to five pilot counties and we are currently supporting that implementation. Just like the cares live implementation, we do provide feature set updates, things like that, fixes when there's an issue, et cetera, et cetera.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
With regards to the delivery of cares, RFA was that first piece, and cares will fall into as two major releases. There is a version one which is to cover the functionality and support the new programs and policies in order to move the social workers of the 58 counties, as well as CDSS program staff that use it off a legacy system and give them a newer system that can really help them with their work.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
It also will lay the foundation for the comprehensive child welfare information system compliance. And that's a compliance from our federal partners, the Administration for children, youth and families. And then the second piece would be to continue. Version two would be to continue to get to that compliance. So in June 2022, the project began version one.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Development activities, design, development, testing, interactions with our core constituents, which are counties, tribes, cdss program to get feedback on what the true business requirements are, develop and then get feedback from them as well. And so, so far, pardon me, we have completed the capabilities for core functionality for screening, which is the work for a hotline worker to take client information, person information, let's say, as well as allegations.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
When someone calls in with a concern of potential abuse, or for someone to call in and say, I need assistance, can you help me with services? Right. We want to make sure that there is no wrong door for someone to contact and get assistance as well. The core functionality we've completed also for what they call service provider profile and for services. And really it was talked about in the previous issue, but we're talking about tracking dollars.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
So we're implementing where the service provider, that profile, that contract information, et cetera, can be maintained, and then the services can be attached and connected to that. So that base construct has been built out. And of course, because of the interdependency in child welfare, one functional area or one business function does not stand completely separately and alone. They all intertwine.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
So while I say core functionality, as we add more things will get updated to be able to account for the interdependency across the continuum of service that child welfare provides. We are actively now, since we've completed those three which were identified in your agenda, we are actively working on the functionality to support the business functions for investigations, allegation abuse comes in, someone needs to go out, investigate, as well as the beginnings of case management.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Case management is a key component for child welfare, and a lot of subsequent processes really tie into that. And then the initial placement as well as the initial request to determine eligibility. Those are all active pieces of functionality that we're working on now. What remains is the rest of the continuum. We have to do adoptions, we have to do redeterminations for eligibility. You have to get the initial functionality in and then kind of build off on that.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
So I'm just going to keep moving through unless you have a question. Okay, so for question two, what is the current time frame for this project to be completed in the agenda. It did focus on SPR five. Our SPR that we have submitted to California Department of Technology does include our new timeframe, and once we have received approval on that special project report, we'd be able to discuss those specifics. The next question, please describe why am I saying the question? Have it right.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Okay, so with regards to the third question, the project has been working hand in hand with the California Department of Technology to address the risks and issues that have been identified already. We are constantly working with them to identify. They identify. We identify areas of opportunities for improvement or areas of concern that we may need to be watching for. So that partnership has been very helpful in this project.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
And then with regards to some specifics, when you would talk about the red in the agenda, the project has updated the roadmap and the schedule. We have completed the updated strategy for our implementation and rollout to the 58 counties and tribes, and we've also completed the updated county engagement model.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
All of those items that were discussed in here, as far as when they noted it went to red, have been completed and they are part of this SPR, the special project report submission which CDT is actively reviewing.
- Rachel Trustee
Person
I just want to address the final question which was related to when cares will have the functionality to support the county's drawing down on specific child specific prevention services. That functionality is embedded within the version one of curves, the first release of cares. The timing of that is within the SPR six and as soon as we have approval of that, we can discuss the timeline further.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. LAO any comment?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We would just note we will look forward to reviewing SPR six once it becomes available later this spring. And as was noted, that will include a more precise cost as well as schedule for CWS care. So we'll look forward to that. Thank you to no additional comments. Happy to answer any questions. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Quick question. I know you know CDT flagged red last year. You've responded by checking off some of those items. Are we still in red?
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
We are. The process, as I understand and I can, we'll defer to CDT if they have anything further, is that we're waiting for that SPR approval to kind of reset.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Okay.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Would you like to add anything?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Great.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Anything else? That's it on my end. Thank you so much.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We have now come up to issue 16 and this is our proposals for investment. The Subcommitee received stakeholder proposals for investment related to CDSS, children and family services. The first one will be hearing and just a quick reminder, each stakeholder, you have three minutes to present on your proposal. We'd like to welcome first Anna Johnson from the John Burden Advocates for youth. They'll be presenting housing affordability for foster youth and supervised independent living placement.
- Anna Johnson
Person
Good afternoon, chair and Senator. My name is Anna Johnson. I'm the associate Director of housing and health at John Burton Advocates for Youth. And I'm here to talk about the budget request for 16.5 million to support housing stability and safety for children in extended foster care. This proposal would draw down approximately 10.8 million in an additional federal funding match of foster care funds.
- Anna Johnson
Person
Right now, California's housing crisis has put safe and stable housing out of reach for our 18, 19 and 20 year olds in extended foster care. This proposal would augment the statewide monthly foster care rate paid to them so that they can actually afford housing in the local rental market, specifically in the supervised independent living placement called a SILP. The SILP is the single most utilized placement with 41% of youth and extended foster care in that setting. That's about 3300 youth in a silp.
- Anna Johnson
Person
Youth are responsible for identifying and finding their housing on the market in real time and paying their own rent. To do this, they're provided their foster care payment directly, which is currently $1,129, no matter which county you live in. So you can imagine how far that goes with current costs. Housing affordability is a significant issue for youth in silps. The average annual income of these youth is $10,000, well below the federal poverty level for youth this age.
- Anna Johnson
Person
Housing is a barrier to pursuing higher education and of course, puts them at risk for experiencing homelessness, where one in five youth does experience homelessness by the time they exit care. This proposal would augment the monthly payment by providing supplemental funding to adequately cover local costs in real time. It's modeled after a policy enacted in 2020, the THPNMD housing supplement, which is another placement for youth this age where transitional housing providers help them find housing on the rental market as well.
- Anna Johnson
Person
So we've been issuing those payments, and it's been successful. Since the extended foster care was implemented, the cost of housing in our counties has outpaced the rate of growth of the payment. So the silk payment has grown 41% over time according to the California Necessities Index. But the 15 highest cost counties where most of our foster youth live, it's grown by 80% and in some 113%. So we're just not able to keep pace with this housing crisis.
- Anna Johnson
Person
So, like the THPNMD housing supplement, this supplement would augment the silp rate based on fair market rent annually, which is a system developed by the US Housing Department, HUD, to determine the allowable rent for section eight housing vouchers. So that's at 40% of the median area rent. So the goal is to equip youth with enough purchasing power to secure safe and stable housing where they work, go to school, or where they have connections.
- Anna Johnson
Person
The common measure used by HUD for affordable housing is to ensure that no more than 30% of your income goes towards the cost of rent or housing. And so we're looking at 30% of this use. Monthly income is spent on rent according to fair market rent in their county annually each year. And so that's how it will be an evergreen policy. It'll always address this issue. So youth can always afford housing on the market.
- Anna Johnson
Person
So thank you for your time and to the opportunity to give youth their first apartment, their first dorm, a chance to finish school, a chance to be by their friends and family, and to really transition to adulthood with the support of our communities. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Next up, Cliff Costa, California Judges Association, presenting on raising the age of extended foster care.
- Cliff Costa
Person
Madam Chair and Senator, thank you so much for letting us present today. Cliff Costa. As you just mentioned, on behalf of California Judges Association, our budget request is for 25 million and is associated with Senate Bill Nine by Senator Cortese. SB Nine is attempting to expand the extended foster care program by one year to age 22. And the intent behind that is to help those youth who are being aged out of the system.
- Cliff Costa
Person
And we believe there's about 4500 of them who are aging out of the system every year to be given the opportunity to stay in the system one more year if they are at risk of homelessness or could potentially be reasonably at risk of immediate homelessness.
- Cliff Costa
Person
Our juvenile court judges of California, which is a section of the California Judges Association, has been seeing the success of the extended foster care program this past decade and truly believes that an expansion of the program would be consistent with the brain science that shows that adolescent development really continues out till age 25. However, that is extremely expensive, as we all know. And unfortunately, anything beyond age 21 up would result in no federal matching dollars or no federal funds.
- Cliff Costa
Person
And so from our perspective, we are trying to figure out a way to help these youth who could end up homeless once they are aged out of the system. And so that's what SB Nine is attempting to do now. The $25 million, we are modeling it after efforts that this Legislature and the Governor took during the pandemic back in the 2021 fiscal budget, you actually extended the age of extended foster care by one additional year to help those youth who were in the system.
- Cliff Costa
Person
During the 2020/2021 pandemic, we believe that budget allocation was about 32 million. We also know from the children's bureau that about 20% of the youth who are aging out could be at risk of homelessness. So taking that 20% of the 4,500 youth who are aged out and taking the $32 million that was the budget allocation back in 2021, we are thinking a $25 million request should be sufficient to cover at least this youth.
- Cliff Costa
Person
We imagine it would likely be higher than the 20% who could be eligible, but at the same time, any additional funds that would be allocated under our request, we would want to go to help our social workers and others who would be impacted by the extension of this program. And so at this moment, we would appreciate your consideration and available to ask any or answer any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Last time I didn't ask you for any. If you had any questions. Do you have any questions on this one? Okay, good. No comments on my end. Thank you so much. We're going to hold the item open, and now I'll move on to the third proposal and welcome. Cathy Senderling Mcdonald, county welfare Director, Association presenting on serving youth with complex needs.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
Thank you, Madam Chair, Senator Eggman, Cathy Senderling CWDA there are three parts to this proposal, which is co sponsored by CWDA and the chief probation officers of California, and it's also contained an SB 408 by Senator Ashby along with a concomitant budget request. As noted in the agenda, the Bill and budget ask contain needed next steps to address an urgent placement capacity crisis that counties are continuing to face, especially for children with the most complex needs, who often have faced needs crossing multiple systems.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
We've lost significant numbers of placement and treatment options for our youth in the past several years. I'm happy to detail those if you wish, but the issues in General stem from the implementation of several state and federal law and policy changes, as well as a growing demand for congregate based care from other systems, such as education, health and even private pay, which have taken up an estimated 30% of available placement space statewide.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
The first part of the proposal is to create a new type of temporary placement for youth who we otherwise would be unable to locate a placement for initially with either a relative, foster family or strtp. Currently, we're experiencing a shortage of appropriate licensed placements, and so you are likely well aware that counties have been using offices, hotels, Airbnbs and other facilities that are unlicensed and typically offer fewer, if any services while they look for a placement for the youth.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
This proposal would create a new, richly staffed and service rich temporary license placement called a stat short term assessment, treatment and transition. This builds on the current STRTP model. We're not starting from scratch. Think of it as a highly enhanced STRTP, and a key difference is that the stats would be required to accept placement of these youth on a short term basis. While we look for that placement, they could not refuse placement as Strtps currently may do.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
It is also not the same as the discussion from the previous panel regarding PRTFs as well as the continuum of crisis care reform. Those are both very behaviorally health focused. This would cross over other areas as well. Youth may have education needs, developmental disabilities, or delays that the Regional Center gets involved with and other physical health, not just behavioral health needs.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
And so the idea would be, as we look for that placement, which could be a supported family based caregiver or a congregate caregiver, those services and supports would be provided to them. They would not need to wait for those to start. There would also be six months of intensive aftercare once they're placed to ensure the services follow the child, something that was a hallmark of CCR, but we don't always see happening.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
To ensure that the placements are working out and hopefully avoid additional disruptions for these youth. The second area is creating regional health teams in up to 10 areas to provide coordinated and collaborative services to children and youth with higher needs. Again, that often cross over.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Systems quickly wrap up.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
I have this much, I can do it. The idea is to ensure that all the systems are talking and collaborating so that services are provided timely. There's lots of similar sounding efforts in Medi Cal right now, but I want to be clear. Most of the children in foster care today are in fee for service. They're not in managed care. Even as proposed in the budget, we still would have around half of our youth and children remain in fee for service.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
So this would assist those children in getting the services that they need in a coordinated way. Finally, the last portion is funding. We have 43 million, as you've heard, in existing capacity building funding that was provided two budget cycles ago. We're working to spend that, but it's really hard to build capacity with one time funding. So the proposal is to allow it to be ongoing funding and continuing from year to year.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
And we also propose some changes to the way in which counties draw down and spend the $18 million in individual children.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. I have a quick question on this one. The last two parts of your proposal, you talked to me more. We just heard from Panos talking about the need short term moving away from congregate homes. Can you explain why there's a need to move back to that kind of model?
- Anna Johnson
Person
Thank you.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
Well, we don't really see it as moving back to the model. What is happening right now is because we have lost placement capacity. And in particular, we had around 250 youth across probation and child welfare be brought back from out of state placements, some of which were not good, but some of which were working for the children and youth. And all of a sudden, in the end of 2020, we had to find new placements for them. We've overtaxed our system.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
And what is happening is that counties, both child welfare and probation, along with the other systems that I mentioned, education, private pay, health care, we are all competing for a shrinking number of placements. At the same time, we're doing our best to try to get relatives, as you're hearing from the family, finding efforts.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
But sometimes with the youth with these complex needs, a relative has had a poor experience with that youth and wants to know that services are going to be in place before they're willing to take them back and try again. We may be able to get there with them, but in the meantime, that youth has to go somewhere.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
And right now, where that somewhere is, is too often the office, the hotel, with a couple of social workers who didn't sign up to be sitting in a hotel staring at a kid. They run away. A lot of them, frankly, end up in juvenile hall. That is not a good alternative. We've tried to be super transparent about this.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
And starting from 2020, when those out of state youth were brought back, we said we don't think there's enough capacity in the system, at least for a temporary bit of time. You're going to see kids in places you do not want them. And guess what? That is what we are seeing. So what we're trying to do is get something together that counties can have more control over, that can't say no. That must take that child. While we ensure that we're looking for that right placement.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
Ideally it's a family, ideally it's a relative. We would want that. But we need to make sure services are in place. And as you heard from the other panels, they're not always in place right away. So what we want is something where the services are there for them. They're getting something and it's licensed while we get, as quickly as possible them into that family home. That's the idea.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Any additional comment? Question? Great. Perfect. We'll make room for the next stakeholder proposals. I would like to welcome Michael Williams from the Child Abuse prevention center. He's going to present on stabilizing and straightening family resource centers.
- Michael Williams
Person
Yeah, I didn't know how we're going.
- Michael Williams
Person
To work out the seating, and now I figured it out.
- Cliff Costa
Person
Okay.
- Michael Williams
Person
Thank you, Chair Menjivar and Committee, thank you for this opportunity to speak on behalf of the California Family Resource Association. Excuse me. And 500 family resource centers around the state. I know, Senator Menjivar, you're very supportive of El Nido Family resource center in your district. And Senator Eggman, we met at the community partnerships for families in San Joaquin, and we have a proposal of $75 million over three years for family resource centers. The National Family Support Network calls Family Resource Centers America's best kept secret.
- Michael Williams
Person
That's because they play an often invisible or quiet role for connecting families to much needed services, many of which are supported by this Committee, including Cal Works, calfresh, Regional Centers, Medi Cal, and child abuse prevention, as well as support in the pandemic, natural disasters and economic downturns. So family resource centers are the unseen key ingredient to the success for these programs. Quite often, national and state research has shown family resource centers to be effective in supporting family well being and reducing child abuse and neglect.
- Michael Williams
Person
A recent study of the Westminster Family Resource center in Orange County showed a 365% return on investment for child welfare and prevented placements. And recently, the Child Welfare Council and Department of Social Services have noted family resource centers as a key ingredient in building out the Community pathway for the Family First Prevention Services act and other supports. What makes family resource centers so effective?
- Michael Williams
Person
Their cultural responsiveness, their embeddedness in their communities, the human scale, and most of all, the trust that they enjoy with parents are exactly those things that don't have stable funding. Family resource centers patch together time limited and program specific grants and contracts to survive, and not all do survive. The California Family Resource Association appreciates Senator Marie Alvarado-Gil's sponsorship of this budget ask.
- Michael Williams
Person
We thank this Subcommitee for your consideration, and we look forward to California joining 20 states and the District of Columbia in supporting family resource centers. And I'm glad to be here for any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I don't have any questions or comments. None.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Great.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We're going to hold the item open and we're going to move on to our fifth proposal. Welcome Adrienne Shelton on behalf of California alliance for Children and Family Services presenting on support and retain critical social work staff for family focused agencies.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
Good afternoon Chair Menjivar and Chair Eggman, Adrian Shelton with the California alliance of Child and Family Services. We represent 160 nonprofit, community based organizations across California that are providing services and supports to children and youth and families in public human services system and part of our membership are foster family agencies, or FFAs, who provide resource parents with support and provide social work services to family based placements.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
FFAs are state licensed, nonprofit, community based organizations and support one in four foster youth placed in home based care and that totals 9888 youth statewide. We respectfully request, in partnership with the National Association of Social Workers, $11.9 million state General Fund, which also leverages 2.8 million of federal funding to increase the FFA rate and provide bridge funding until the final child welfare rate structure is developed by January of 2025. So we are still a year and a half minimum away from that rate structure.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
The alliance recently conducted a survey of our 43 of our FFAs responded in March of this year, and they serve over 3,300 resource families and 32% of our FFA social workers turned over in 2022. So it's taking over four months to fill a social worker vacancy. On average, 44% of those surveyed are going to have to downsize and 27% are at risk of closing their ffas without this extra support. And that social worker turnover directly impacts the likelihood of achieving permanency for these foster youth.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
So for a youth and family that has one social worker, the chances of achieving permanency is 70% and for youth that have three or more social workers, achieving permanency reduces to less than 3%. So for our Members programs to survive and thrive, an increase in this rate is necessary now. And so, just as stated, our Members are really struggling significantly with that social work retention, which then impacts their ability to reunify families, support youth and placement, and provide those intensive services.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
And then lastly, as part of this proposal, we're also seeking a statutory change to rename foster family agencies to family focused agencies to reflect really the broader work that FFAs provide on an ongoing basis. So we respectfully request your support.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. NASW Lobby Day is this weekend.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
Yes, it is.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Pretty sure this will be brought up again. I have no comments or questions on my end.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Senator Eggman, I can't let a hearing go by without saying, are we actually talking about social workers? When we say social worker, are we talking about people with degrees in other fields social workers, MSW.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
MSWS.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
Yeah. All right. Thank you very much.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
Master's in social work.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you. We're going to hold the item open and move on to our final stakeholder proposal on community treatment facility supplement. Welcome back.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
Thank you,
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
Adrian Shelton with the California Alliance of Child and Family Services. So we are requesting $918,408 ongoing to increase the community treatment facility supplement. And so this would increase the supplement from $2,500 monthly, and the supplement would then be $161 per day per child, which would be split between the county and the state. So 60% county, 40% state, and just a little bit of background about what community treatment facilities are.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
They were set up in the mid 1990s, really as an alternative to both out of state placements and also our state's psychiatric hospitals for kids. And so as a result of these successful efforts statewide to reform and deinstitutionalize mental health services for children and youth, there are two CTFs that remain in California to treat children with really the most severe and complex trauma and serious emotional challenges. These are Starview Adolescent center in Torrance and Vista Del Mar Child and Family Services, which is in Los Angeles.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
So these children who are in these programs require constant care and supervision and have really specialized needs. And both of these Ctfs happen to be in Los Angeles, but they are accepting placements from youth from across the state. So beginning in fiscal year 2001, Ctfs did receive a $2,500 supplemental rate per child per month by the state. And that was above the highest level of the Foster Care Group home rate at the time. However, this rate has not been adjusted literally the past 22 years.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
And obviously since then, the cost of living has increased significantly. So we're asking for some support for these two programs across the state, which are serving youth, really from across the state. So thank you very much for your indulgence.
- Cathy Senderling
Person
Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I don't have any comment or question. Senator Eggman, thank you so much for presenting those two items. We're going to hold that issue open. I do want to note that the Subcommitee did receive two additional stakeholder proposals that would not be heard in presentation. I would just note them out loud. The California success opportunity, academic resilience, guaranteed income program, and then the 8th one is bridging towards tomorrow for foster youth with behavioral health needs and short term residential therapeutic programs.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We will now move on to our next Department, Department of Child Support Services, and start on with issue one. I'd like to welcome Director David Kilgore. Yes. No Kilgory.
- Cynthia Tucker
Person
Zero, it.
- Nan Chen
Person
Hi. Good afternoon, Madam Chair and Members of the Committee. Before I begin, I did want to extend an apology from Director Kilga for not being able to make it today. He's sick this morning and is at home resting. So the Governor's Budget proposes 1.2.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
What's your name?
- Nan Chen
Person
I'm sorry, Nan Chen, Chief Financial Officer for the Department. The Governor's Budget proposes $1.2 billion, $378.6 million General Fund for the Department of Child Support Services, an increase of 40.7 million compared to the current year enacted budget.
- Nan Chen
Person
The significant adjustments include a proposed $35.8 million and $12.1 million General Fund increase for local child support agencies to maintain current service levels to offset increasing costs for local staff caseload and call cylinder volume, $4.4 million for the Department staff compensation, and cost-benefit costs and 1 million for DCS's cybersecurity safeguard, BCP that is going to be covered in issue number two. The budget forecasts total collections to be 2.58 billion, an increase of 52 million compared to estimated collections for the current year.
- Nan Chen
Person
The increase in collections is primarily attributed to the tight labor market and consistently low unemployment rates. I would also highlight that DCSS estimates current year disregard payments to families will be about $56 million. This is the first full year since implementation of the $100 for single-child families and $200 for families with two or more children. Prior to the legislative change, disregard was only $50 for all families.
- Nan Chen
Person
The 2020 statutory changes approved by the Legislature has allowed DCSS to pass an additional $33 million to families compared to historical levels, as these dollars would have otherwise been retained as government cost recruitment. In regards to the Department's proposal for LCSA funding, we are requesting $35.8 million to fund LCSA Administration. The estimate was based on the department's calculation that is necessary to offset increased staffing costs, higher caseload and higher call volumes.
- Nan Chen
Person
The LCSA funding methodology was adopted in 2019-20 and calculates funding levels based on the actual cost of staffing for each local agency and their respective caseloads. VCSS estimates $28.6 million of the request is necessary to offset staffing cost increases as a result of many counties having negotiated new bargaining contracts, most have material salary benefit increases over the next two years. The balance of the request is necessary to add positions to manage the increase in caseload and call volume.
- Nan Chen
Person
DCSS caseload has increased as Calwork's population has steadily been rising, resulting in greater case referrals and more workload to establish and enforce those child support orders. I would note that the calculator did, it would take $78 million to fully fund the calculated methodology. However, given the state's fiscal situation, the reduced amount of $35.8 million is proposed in the Governor's Budget to offset those cost increases and to maintain current service levels.
- Nan Chen
Person
If funding is not received, LCSAs would need to cease hiring efforts and in many jurisdictions, likely result in layoffs and staffing attrition in order to absorb those cost increases. As for funding received in 2021, current year, the LCSAs have focused their efforts on ramping up staffing levels in a challenging labor market. As of January, underfunded LCSAs have added almost an additional 100 positions compared to June of 2022.
- Nan Chen
Person
That's a net increase against challenges to find qualified and interested candidates in such a tight labor market, as well as working against the tide of retirements and staff leaving for other job opportunities that have surged over the recent years.
- Nan Chen
Person
A portion of the funding that will also be used to offset staffing increases that were recently enacted due to new labor contracts and for one-time expenditures such as facility renovations, lump sum payments to recent retirees, and equipment replacements such as vehicles and computing devices that are at their end of life. For the next question, I'll.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
Good afternoon, chair and Members Kristen Erickson Donnady Chief Deputy Director I'll address question three. With regard to the collectibility study and management of assigned arrears. I wanted to build on what was in the agenda about our debt reduction program and share some of the numbers about the success of that revamped program. So, as the agenda notes, we did release a revamp program that streamlines the eligibility and the application process, and that was released in May 2021.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
And when we compare the pre-Covid, the last full budget year, pre-Covid, which is our best comparison year to state fiscal year 2021 to 22, the number of applications have doubled and we've been able to resolve a great deal more of that debt that's owed to the government. Of course, as you know, once we are able to implement the arrears pass-through program, all of those collections on those assigned arrears will then be passed through to families.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
So that is one of the areas we have available to us to address assigned arrears. The second is with regard to implementation of the uncollectible debt provisions, which were effective in January of this year. As you may know, there are two separate categories. So there's a section with mandatory where the state must cease collection on those assigned arrears, and those are related to a single source of income that is relatively low.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
So we have rolled out the implementation of those, and we've provided our counties with tableau dashboards, which is how they identify those cases, and they can cease collection of the assigned portion of the arrears. For the other portion, we are still working with our vendor, the University of California, San Diego, or UCSD, to complete the collectibility study that was funded through the Legislature. One of the first tasks was to review the 2003 collectibility study. So we're over 20 years past that.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
That study had 18 recommendations in order to address child support arrears. Since that time, we've actually seen an incredibly large shift in terms of the composition of our arrears overall, due to programs like debt reduction and its predecessor, the Compromise of Arrears program, the composition has entirely shifted in that now it's about half of the arrears are owed to the government, as are owed to the families directly.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
So the first part of that study that is completed was to review the recommendations from that 2003 study and to determine which of them were implemented, and then what the outcome was if that was a positive benefit. So some of the recommendations that were implemented include reducing default orders to the extent possible. Updating the low-income adjustment, which has been done a few times over the years and is also proposed in further adjustment, is proposed in this year's legislative session.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
We've also eliminated the use of the minimum basic standard of adequate care as a basis for tying a child support order, and so all child support orders are tied to the formula, which is based on a parent's income. We also expanded the set aside of presumed income orders from 90 days to one year. Some of the recommendations that were not implemented included lowering the interest rate charged on arrears and considering using time-certain appointments before getting a default order as their next step.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
They are evaluating incredibly large data sets from our Department and other data available to them to create an algorithm that will result in a probability that a case is likely to yield collections on those arrears. From that work, from that study, we do expect it to wrap up by the end of this year. Our contract runs through 2023. That algorithm, or probability, will be applied to real child support cases to see how well it did in predicting that collectibility.
- Kristen Erickson-Donadee
Person
From that collectibility study when we receive the final we will also develop policies then to determine which cases should be closed. When should we cease collection on those assigned arrears based on the collectibility study itself? I'll turn to Nan for the fourth question.
- Nan Chen
Person
As highlighted in the Agenda Family Code 17504.2 states that pass through to formally assisted families shall become operative on July 1, 2023 or on the date the Department notifies the Legislature that the child support enforcement system can perform the necessary automation to implement the section. Although July 1 was the initial target date, since legislation was enacted in September of 2022, the Department has been working with our program and technology teams to design the system changes necessary to implement the program.
- Nan Chen
Person
After consideration of the pending work, the complexities and time necessary to make changes to the foundational system code involving aspects of financial functionality in the child support enforcement system, a revised implementation date of April 2024 has been identified. The identified financial functionality impacted by the statute includes, but is not limited to, collections, processing, distribution, adjustments, disbursements, welfare, recruitment, funds management, and data for mandated federal reporting. These functions have existed in the system unchanged since 2008, when the CSE system went live.
- Nan Chen
Person
The technical and programmatic experts working on implementation have determined the web of impacts to be greater than previously envisioned. Therefore, to implement the changes that meet program expectations, additional time is necessary to develop and test the system thoroughly to prevent unintended errors and incorrect disbursements. This is a high priority for the Department and a significant portion of staff have been fully dedicated towards this effort to meet the revised target date.
- Nan Chen
Person
Also, just as a technical budget note, the Department will make the necessary budgetary adjustments in the May revision to account for the delayed implementation date.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Does the LAO have any comment?
- Angela Short
Person
Thank you. Angela short with the Legislative Analyst Office, just briefly building on the point that Mr. Chen just made at the time of the Governor's Budget, it was anticipated that the full pass-through for formerly assisted CalWorks families would be implemented as of July 1, 2023. Now that that implementation is anticipated for April of 2024, we would just note there will be much less of an impact on General Fund revenues for the 23-24 budget year.
- Angela Short
Person
Now, we expect there will only be two or three months of an impact, so we will look for that change at the time of May revision. And then just one final note. There is a forthcoming report due to the Legislature May 1. This is a report that will be authored both by the Department of Social Services as well as the Department of Child Support Services looking at any unintended impacts of the full passthrough policy.
- Angela Short
Person
For example, are there any effects on families eligibility for other needs-based programs based on the additional funds that they'll be receiving through the full passthrough? So this will be an important report for understanding the impacts of that policy, and we'll look forward to reviewing the report when it's available. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Department of Finance. Any additional comment?
- Omar Sanchez
Person
Hi, Omar Sanchez with the Department of Finance. Nothing further to add.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Can you dive in a little bit more what happened? You know, an additional nine months added to this implementation of the program being ready seems an extreme oversight from what you envisioned the program to be ready to what was added. Can you just explain a little bit more what was missed and the original thought of how long it was going to take to get started for the passthrough to be implemented?
- Nan Chen
Person
Yeah, so when we originally came up with the estimate on timeline, we really kind of based it a lot around disregard payments, which was somewhat similar, and we had thought that perhaps you could be able to do it by the July 1 deadline. However, after really digging into it, our technical and program Adam teams have discovered that there's really a lot of details in how the system is processing payments and all the different scenarios that exist within our caseload.
- Nan Chen
Person
And in order to kind of fully think through and account for all those design changes, the team really needs the added time to make sure that they can account for every nuance so that nothing really slips through the cracks.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Are we comfortable in April 2024?
- Nan Chen
Person
So to kind of quote David and what he said to the Assembly side, come hell or high water, we will make that date.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Okay.
- Susan Talamantes Eggman
Person
The water's been high, brother.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Senator Eggman, any other comment or question? Thank you. Seeing nothing further, we're going to move on to issue number two. Cybersecurity Department of Child and Support Services.
- Nan Chen
Person
Nan Chan, Chief Financial Officer for the Department. The Department of Child Support Services requests a budget augmentation of $1.59 million, $360,000,000 General Fund and six positions for fiscal year 23-24 and ongoing to comply with recent requirements in IRS publication 1075. This funding enables DCSS to respond to the increasing sophistication in cybersecurity attacks by creating various programs as required.
- Nan Chen
Person
It would also allow the Department to comply with the goals of the Governor's Cal secure multi-year information security maturity roadmap, meet compliance requirements with state information security policies, and address information security and privacy risks. The Department would establish an insider threat program, privacy program, and supply chain risk management program.
- Nan Chen
Person
For the insider threat program, DCSS would use the funding to monitor thousands of caseworker identities, millions of participant identities for risks such as careless user, malicious user, compromised credentials, fraud, data theft by compromised credentials machines and identities, and system sabotage of the largest CSC program in the nation. For the privacy program, the Department used the staff to develop policies and procedures to monitor privacy controls and to identify and mitigate risks to the department's information.
- Nan Chen
Person
In regards to supply chain risk management program, the Department would identify and manage the risks along the supply chain based on a continuous risk assessment aimed at reducing vulnerability and ensuring business continuity. Happy to take any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
LAO, any comments?
- Angela Short
Person
We've reviewed the BCP and have no concerns to raise. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Department of Finance.
- Omar Sanchez
Person
Hi, Department of Finance, nothing further to add.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
No comments or questions on my end. We're going to hold the item open. We're going to move on to our last Department of the day, Department of Community Services and Development, and I'd like to welcome David Shriver. Yeah, totally off.
- David Scribner
Person
You were close. You were getting.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
There's no h. I don't know why I even said that.
- David Scribner
Person
Let's see if we can bring this on home this afternoon. How's everyone doing? As we said, I'm David Scribner, Director of the Department of Community Services and Development. Thank you for having me here this afternoon. It's good to see you guys again this year. Thank you. I'd like to begin providing an overview of the Department, if I could. The primary focus of CSD is the Administration and development of programs that serve and lift up low income Californians.
- David Scribner
Person
Our programs almost exclusively serve low income individuals and families and are oriented towards assisting those considered most vulnerable achieve and maintain economic security. Historically, the department has been almost 100% federally funded, with the majority of funding coming from two annual block grants, the Community Services Block grant, or CSBG, and the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, or LIHEAP. CSBG is an annual federal grant that funds a network of community based, nonprofit and local government organizations to provide locally determined anti poverty services and activities.
- David Scribner
Person
These CSBG grantees, many of who identify themselves as community action agencies, administer programs to address employment, education, asset building, housing and shelter, tax preparation, nutrition, and emergency services, among others. Funding for the annual CSBG grant has historically been relatively stable year over year. For 2023, total CSBG funding is basically flat compared to 2022 at approximately 67.7 million. Our other major federal grant program, LIHEAP.
- David Scribner
Person
It provides an array of services designed to assist low income households manage and meet their home heating and other cooling needs, such as through utility Bill assistance and home weatherization services. Because funding for LIHEAP is limited in accordance with federal requirements, LIHEAP funds are targeted to households with the lowest incomes and those that include members of vulnerable populations, such as young children, the disabled, and older adults.
- David Scribner
Person
Services are delivered through a network of local service providers, and these providers also provide weatherization services for low income households funded by an annual grant under the Department of Energy's Weatherization Assistance program. For federal fiscal year 2023, there have been significant federal funding augmentations for LIHEAP that have increased total funding levels from 201,000,000 in 2022 to 367,000,000 in 2023. For the annual LIHEAP grant, California has been awarded 247,000,000.
- David Scribner
Person
This is an increase of about 46 million over 2022 and in addition, California has received supplemental LIHEAP funds that added another 120,000,000 in funding for 2023. As you know, earlier this year there were significant increases in the cost of natural gas for Californians. This may begin impacting electricity costs in the coming months as well.
- David Scribner
Person
The Department anticipates there are likely to be significant increases in demand for energy bill assistance over the next year as customers struggle to afford the costs of the increased costs of energy. We are working closely with our network of local LIHEAP service providers to support their efforts to prepare for this increased demand in utility Bill assistance and reach more Californians. With the increase in LIHEAP funding, CSD is also coordinating with energy utilities to ensure we are reaching households eligible for assistance.
- David Scribner
Person
There are a number of programs focused on energy affordability, and LIHEAP is just one of the state's tools for helping families keep the lights on. These include energy utilities' own low income rate discount programs, energy efficiency programs, and payment plans to address energy debts. Program coordination is critical both at the state and utility level, and we will continue to work towards providing complete and holistic services to address the energy needs of low income Californians.
- David Scribner
Person
CSD's state funded programs include the Low Income Weatherization Program, or LIWP, which is currently funded with a mix of cap and trade auction proceeds and General Fund Dollars. LIWP, as a California climate investment program as a primary goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions, is the only program of its kind in California focusing exclusively on serving low income households with no cost solar PV systems and energy efficiency upgrades as well.
- David Scribner
Person
Two components of LIWP are currently in operation, the Farm Worker Housing Component, which serves low income farm working housing, and the multifamily component, which serves multifamily affordable housing. Additionally, CSD administers, in partnership with the Franchise Tax Board, grants to community based nonprofits and local governments to increase awareness of the California Earned Income Tax Credit, or Cal EITC, and support free tax preparation assistance. Separately, the Department also administers a grant program to help counties establish farm worker resource centers.
- David Scribner
Person
Grants under this program were recently awarded to Stanislaw, Monterey, and Santa Barbara counties. Beyond CSD's existing programs that help low income Californians with energy and water affordability, CSD has recently had the opportunity to administer two rounds of funding to address energy bill rearranges accrued during the Covid-19 pandemic. Under the California Rearrange Payment program, or CAP, CSD distributed over $1.6 billion in financial assistance to 3 million californian customers that had struggled to pay energy costs during the pandemic. There have been two phases of CAP.
- David Scribner
Person
The first phase was established through the 2021 state budget and distributed 989.5 million in federal American Rescue Plan act funding to customers through January of 2022 in the form of bill credits. This phase reduced or eliminated residential and commercial energy customer arrears occurred during the program's Covid-19 pandemic bill relief period, which covered the period between March 4 of 2020 through June 15 of 2021. As a result of this first phase, CAP assisted in paying down approximately 50% of eligible customer arrears reported by participating utilities.
- David Scribner
Person
The second phase of CAP was funded through the 2022 state budget implemented last year. Funding levels for this phase of CAP was informed by was informed by a spring 2022 survey of energy utility rearages, with utilities reporting a little over 1.2 billion in residential customer energy arrears that accrued between March 4 of 2020 and December 31 of 2021. 1.2 billion was appropriated to address these arrearages.
- David Scribner
Person
When energy utilities applied for CAP funding in the fall of 2022, they reported a significant reduction in the total amount of eligible customer arrearages and applied for $647,000,000 on behalf of qualified customers. In November, CSD distributed 647,000,000 in CAP funds to energy utilities, and these funds paid down 100% of the CAP eligible residential customer arrears reported by participating utilities. The following is in response to question two. Because the available funding exceeded qualified customer arrears, the governor's proposed budget identified $400 million for reversion.
- David Scribner
Person
This was a conservative point in time estimate prior to funds being dispersed to utilities and provided flexibility in the event that there were adjustments, the Administration will provide an update on may revise on the remaining funding, taking into consideration updated revenue projections. Through the successful development and implementation of both phases of CAP, the state was able to significantly reduce and in many cases, eliminate the reargues of every Californian that qualified.
- David Scribner
Person
This made a significant impact on the lives of millions of households struggling to afford the cost of energy, addressed unprecedented levels of energy debt, and helped to mitigate the risk of disconnection for many vulnerable households. I'm very proud of how efficiently our small department was able to get these funds to Californians in need while working under compressed timelines.
- David Scribner
Person
I think it speaks to the commitment of our hardworking, mission driven staff as to support vulnerable individuals and families in our state and is to their credit that we have been able to be as successful administrating the program as we have now. In response to the third question on Livewap. 2022, CSD launched a new limited sorry, there's a bug landed on my shoulder that just threw off my whole vibe there.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
If we can work on that.
- David Scribner
Person
Yeah, please, there's a lot of bugs up here. Sorry. In 2022, CSB also launched a new limited term federal program that provides financial assistance to low income Californians to help manage their residential water utility costs. The Low Income Household Water Assistance program, or LIHWP, received 116,000,000 in onetime federal funding to provide water and wastewater utility bill assistance to low income households. This program is being administered at the community level through local liheap service providers, and it is modeled on that program.
- David Scribner
Person
LIHWAP is the first program of its kind in California and working in the water utility field and is a new area of focus for CSD and its local service providers, with also working with new providers as well and partners. As a result, the department has worked closely with wastewater systems and water systems and other stakeholders throughout the implementation and sdministration of the program. As we've rolled out this new program, CSD has leveraged those partnerships to improve program delivery.
- David Scribner
Person
Most notably, the Department recently expanded eligibility for LIHWAP and the pool of low income households that can qualify for a LIHWAP benefit. Previously, eligibility was limited to customers with a past due balance only and may have been at the risk of disconnection from their water services. In response to feedback from stakeholders, program eligibility has now been expanded to include low income households that are current on their water bills.
- David Scribner
Person
While the program will continue to prioritize households with an arrearage, the expansion ineligibility will help streamline outreach efforts, remove a barrier to participation, and ensure that more low income Californians struggling with the high cost of living and water utility affordability can access a LIHWAP benefit. An additional 200 million in onetime funding for LIHWAP was allocated in the 2022 state budget. This funding will be used to extend the availability of water bill assistance for up to three additional years after the initial federal funding expires.
- David Scribner
Person
The Department looks forward to working with our partners to implement this new phase of the program and use the lessons learned from the first year of LIHWAP to continue to refine and improve the program. Thank you. And I am here for any questions.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Quick question on LIHWAP, because that's actually a program I remember it was working on when I was in the city level, but I didn't ever remember it being implemented. So we still have funding there for constituents.
- David Scribner
Person
Correct, the federal funding is going to run through September 30 of this year, and then the state funding aspect of LIHWAP will continue, pick up on October 1 and run for an additional two, up to three years.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you so much. LAO, any comment?
- Angela Short
Person
Yes, thank you again. Angela Short with the LAO. Just a brief comment regarding the Governor's Budget proposal to revert the 400 million in unspent cap dollars to the General Fund. We find this to be a reasonable proposal given that, as Director Scribner described, the program did successfully fully pay down the arrearages that were identified for the eligible pandemic period.
- Angela Short
Person
Additionally, we would just note that by reverting the funds to the General Fund, that does allow the legislature the most flexibility in terms of using the funds for a different priority and or helping to address the identified budget problem. And just also to emphasize, as Director Scribner noted, we will expect an update to the reversion amount at the time of the May revision, given that the 400 million was an initial estimate and there could be additional funds proposed at the time of May revision.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you so much. Department of Finance.
- Omar Sanchez
Person
Omar Sanchez, the Department of Finance, nothing further to add.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, Senator Eggman. We're going to hold the item open. Thank you so much, Director. We're going to move on to everyone's favorite part. We're going to be moving on to anyone wanting to provide a public comment. As a reminder, today's participant number is 877-226-8163 with today's access code 736-2834 we'll begin with witnesses here in room 1200. If you could kindly limit your public comment to 45 seconds. Do you want to take a break before any. Go ahead.
- Mariko Yoshihara
Person
Good afternoon, Madam Chair. Mariko Yoshihara. I'm here on behalf of the California Coalition on Truth and Justice and Child Support. First, we just want to thank the Administration and the legislature for making some real progress over the last few years to reform our broken child support system and to ensure that more child support money is actually going to the custodial parent and the children.
- Mariko Yoshihara
Person
One of the coalition's top priorities is to ensure full pass through of child support payments and to end the interception of those payments to repay the state for public benefits. So we would urge this committee to really lock in implementation language in this year's budget to ensure that full pass through happens without delay for former CalWORKS families and as early as possible for current CalWORKS family.
- Mariko Yoshihara
Person
And until we're able to get full pass through, the state must address the issue of how these child support orders are set. That's why we support SB 343 and AB 755. And we also need to eliminate the billions of dollars of government owed child support debt that is currently on the books but uncollectible. We just want to emphasize that this is something we can do with not a big impact on the budgets.
- Josefina Notsinneh
Person
Hi, Josefina Ramirez Notsinneh with Children Now here to talk about issue one, we align ourselves with the early care and education coalition testimony on rate reform and support that. We move to a cost based model that includes a timeline for implementation for the actual cost of care and that suspends family fees. And we urge the legislature and administration to make a down payment this year. Care can't wait. We need to fix childcare now. Thank you.
- Justina Erpelding
Person
Hi, Chair Menjivar, my name is Justina Erpelding. I'm with Every Child California, and our budget request is in line with the ECE coalition, which is to have rate reform into a single rate based on the true cost of care, to base reimbursement on enrollment instead of attendance, and to waive family fees. Thank you.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much.
- Valerie Denero
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Valerie Denero, Director of policy and Ed with every Child California. We align ourselves with the ECE coalition. In addition, the adoption of the new family fee structure is an antipoverty solution to promote family stability and support, we issued a survey that went out to over 6000 parents and legal guardians, with 50% of them reporting that they would have to pull their child out of care should the family fees go back into place. We're happy to share additional information with you upon request. Thank you.
- Raquel Morales Urbina
Person
Raquel Morales, on behalf of the Education Trust West, also in alignment with the ECE coalition, and we believe that there should be no family fees and also that the race should eliminate the charge of family fees. Thank you.
- Naima Fassi
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Naima Fassi. I am a senior of parents voice of San Francisco. I chose to testify today for families who struggle with childcare and personally I have the same experience and I know how it feels. So my ask today is to extend the family waiver fee and my second ask is to increase childcare slots. And my last and not least ask is to pay the providers the actual fee. Thank you so much.
- Salam Jessar
Person
Hello, my name is Salam Jessar. I am a member of Parent Voices, San Francisco, California. I have two kids that I love so much. I'm here because I need childcare now, especially before and after school care. Right now my kids are going to school but their school schedule does not allow me to get a full time job. Please support increasing provider embracement by considering the actual cost of care. Furthermore, you can help families by extending the family fee waivers because low income families do not have the space income to pay for it. Thank you.
- Zachary Shipp
Person
Hello, my name is Zachary Shipp. I am seven years old.
- Josefina Notsinneh
Person
I like to go - so my mom can go to work and buy me a Nintendo game. Thank you for your time.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hello, my name is Abigail.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I'm working on it, I promise.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Don't grab it, just speak into it.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I want my mom to go and job for I can go to a hotel home for my birthday may 10, and for can get some toys. Thank you.
- Jaqueline Reyes
Person
Hola mi nombre es Jacqueline Reyes soy parte de Parent Voices, vivo en San Francisco. Y soy madre soltera de dos niƱos de 10 y 6 anos. Okay. Estoy aquĆ porque necesito programa despuĆ©s de escuela, programa de verano tambiĆ©n. Sabemos que la ciudad esta muy cara todo, ha subido comide, renta, y todo mas. Como madre latina, mi trabajo es de limpieza y no puedo solventar todos los gastos y lost costos que me piden de la programa despuĆ©s de la escuela, porque por cada niƱo, estĆ”n cobrando $200. Entonces, estoy aquĆ para apoyar el programo.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
My name is Ellie and I'm with Parent Voices and I'm here because to support parents that have kids with autism and we need more support, more support in child care for them because the parietals they don't know how to take care of kids with special needs. And I have a grandson that was autistic and I say he needs a lot of attention and care and also to support the budget, the base providers and actual cost of care.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And continue family fees waiver and do not delay nor suspend childcare slots. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hi, my name is Adam O. I'm 12 years old. I'm happy that my mom got me an after school program in a safe area near my school. I do my homework there. I play in the gym and I socialize with kids my age and I play board games there too. I can't imagine myself home after school because I get bored and I need interaction with other kids. So childcare and after school is very crucial to us. Thank you. I hear you. Thank you.
- Maria Lustor
Person
My name is Maria Lustor. I'm the organizer of Parent Voices. I'm going to read Rachel Church's testimony. She's home sick. My name is Rachel Church, a leader with parent voice San Francisco. Not so long ago, my child and I were homeless in a frigid, cold motorhome in the mission district.
- Maria Lustor
Person
I was told that I would have to wait several months for my name to be called to place her in quality childcare so that I could work at Specialties Cafe and bakery in the financial district. Before I had quality childcare, I was unable to meet my child's basic needs and build any kind of self sufficiency. Additionally, I was unable to earn enough and had to work in poor working conditions.
- Maria Lustor
Person
I signed up for childcare when I was five months pregnant and got selected when Alessandra was seven months old. I paid about 200 in family fees. In moving from the frigid motor home to an SRO in the mission district, I had to pay 1750 rent for a 12 x 12 room with about 1ft wave to get around in both bed, both ways. My daughter would play together in the hallway with other kids from other families who live there. Okay. So we're saying that to continue family fees waiver because she has nothing left for food and rent if she has to pay family fees. Thank you so much.
- Jennifer Greppi
Person
Hi there. Jennifer Greppi, Parent Voices California. I'm the policy Director and I would really just like to ask the Department and the legislature to please request the waiver from the Federal Government to extend family fees through September 30 to give us more time to create that equitable fee schedule. We're here. We're ready. We really want to work with the Department to make that happen, and we just have to get that waiver in place. Thank you. Thank you so much.
- Kimberly Lewis
Person
Kim Lewis, representing Aspiranet, and we are one of the largest FFAs in the state, as well as run an STRTP in Turlock, California, in support of issue number 11 and issue number 16, particularly stakeholder proposals 45 and eight. Quickly, on 5 and 8, I just want to say these dollars that we're requesting are help us to get us to the bridge to where we can get to the new rates. The interim rates have been in effect since 2017.
- Kimberly Lewis
Person
None of us could have predicted what was going to happen with the pandemic so there's been all these added increased cost expectations, inflation that we couldn't have predicted. And we really need to support these foundational programs to really seeing the success of CCR. FFAs are really critical in terms of being able to recruit and retain families and our ISFC families particularly as well as in our STRTPs. We really want to create that vision around short term stabilization programs in California. We need to support them to get all the things that we need to have happen around CCNR. So thank you. Thank you.
- Catherine Senderling-Mcdonald
Person
Madam Chair Cathy Senderling, CWDA Executive Director on issue 11, the Continuum pilot we would like to think with the Administration, despite the need to lengthen the time for those pilots, how we could use early learning from those pilots and not have to wait until 2028 for anything to happen in other counties. On issue 14, prevention we co sponsored the request two years ago for the prevention funding and the community engagement process these counties are undertaking.
- Catherine Senderling-Mcdonald
Person
And as mentioned, that funding currently will end June 30, 2024 and we would like to work with the Administration to allow more time for the use of those funds since things did take a bit to get approved by the Federal Government. Finally, on issue 16, the proposals for investment, we support the item number one, the housing proposal by J-Bay, and on proposals 1 and 2, just wanted to note that both of these have automation impacts, and we would request the inclusion of automation contingency language if those are adopted. Thanks.
- Janice Canalan
Person
Good afternoon. Janice Canalan with safe and sound we represent 26 family resource centers in San Francisco serving more than 40,000 parents and children. We strongly support Senator Gill's proposal for 25 million each year for three years for family resource centers. Family resource centers are a vital part of ensuring families effectively navigate complex delivery systems. In San Francisco, family resource centers help families secure flexible emergency funding during the pandemic for basic needs. We know this increased family stability kept families together, prevented homelessness. We urge the community's support.
- Karina Laigo
Person
Good afternoon, chair. We are working towards a future where care is a civil right. My name is Karina Laigo with the Childcare Law Center. It would be an absolute tragedy for any funding intended for families and children and providers to revert to the Federal Government. We urge the legislature to work with the department to ensure all the funding is spent on critical measures like extending the suspension of family fees by the deadline and to find out which pots or pot of federal funding have not yet been spent. California can fully fund affordable childcare for all of our state's families. Instead of placing this burden on women of color. Thank you.
- Adrienne Shilton
Person
Good afternoon. Adrienne Shilton with the California Alliance of Child and Family Services. We are the proud co sponsor of the stakeholder proposal on strengthening and stabilizing California family resource centers across the state. These are essential community based supports for our children and families. We are also the sponsor of the proposal to support short term residential therapeutic programs, again, essential bridge funding, support, support our youth with higher needs. And then lastly, we are supportive of the stakeholder proposal brought forward by John Burton, advocates for youth on the supervised independent living placements. Thank you.
- Anna Johnson
Person
Anna Johnson, John Burton Advocates for Youth on issue 13. We're in support on issue 14 on families first. We want to make sure those county plans do include the optional services for expectant and parenting youth th when the time comes. And on issue 16, sponsors of stakeholder number one and in support of the family resource center proposal as well. Thank you.
- Michelle De La Cruz
Person
Good afternoon, Michelle Delacruz, I also echo the pleads of parent choices. With the significant rise in cost of living, current parent free waivers have allowed me as a single mother to support my son and stand strong as a household. But as of today, I'm preparing for our foundation to crack if continuance of waivers are not unwaveringly supported by all. Thank you.
- Esmeralda Martin-Singh
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Esmeralda Martin-Singh. I'm here with the Low Income Investment Fund and BuildUp California and the ECE Coalition, which is 34 organizations, and we come in support of the ECE Coalition's ask. We please ask that ECE provider rates match the fact that they are developing our most precious resources, our youngest learners and our future change makers. We support the ECE Coalition ask of raising provider rates and allocating all 20,000 childcare spaces. Thank you.
- Nancy Wyatt
Person
Nancy Wyatt, public policy chair for California Family Childcare Network, and we're proud members of the ECE coalition. I recently had to tell a new family childcare provider that she better be doing it because she loved children, because she wasn't going to make enough money. And I was so embarrassed and ashamed. We've got to get it right. And sometimes I make $2.83 an hour after my expenses, and then I get a regional market rate survey call. How much do you make?
- Nancy Wyatt
Person
And then they're going to base the rates on that? Rate reform. We've got to calculate it in a new way. And I'm on calls monthly with hundreds of providers, and they're telling me that the parents are going to have to quit and go back on having the state support them. This is not going to make the state have less expenses and more money. Thank you.
- Ofelia Medina
Person
Hi, Good afternoon, Ofelia Medina with First 5 LA here to speak on issue one. As a Member of the ECE coalition, we, too are in full support and align our message with the EC coalition and asking for immediate investments in childcare provider rates and the adoption of a cost estimation model that reflects the actual cost of care based on program enrollment with our charging families a fee, and the allocation of all 20,000 childcare spaces scheduled to be released next fiscal year. Thank you.
- Juliet Terry
Person
Good afternoon, my name is Juliet Terry. I'm with the Childcare Resource Center. We are a proud Member of the ECE Coalition and stand in full alignment with their budgetary asks. Today, we've heard a lot about how family fees are a massive barrier to access for many families. And we know that these waivers are going to be expiring very soon.
- Juliet Terry
Person
I would just like to say that if these waivers do expire on July 1, there's going to be some severe administrative implications that the state will have to deal with, as well as childcare centers and providers across the state.
- Juliet Terry
Person
For these reasons, CCRC is recommending that first the state immediately modify the fee schedule to a reduced and more equitable and affordable fee chart, that you also forgive prior delinquent family fee payments from the pre-pandemic, and that you also allow a 90-day startup period for agencies to notify families, especially ones that are newer enrollments and who have never paid a family fee, to restart our payment systems. If you would like more information, we are glad to provide this. Thank you.
- Kevin Aslanian
Person
Good afternoon, Kevin Aslanian, Coalition of California Welfare Rights Organizations in here to support one, the child support testimony, the first one, and all the DSS PCPs. Thank you.
- Jennifer Rexroad
Person
Hi, I'm Jen Rexroad with the California Alliance of Caregivers. Here to voice support for Section 16, items 1 and 4, the family resource centers, that are absolutely necessary for child abuse prevention, family stabilization. Thank you.
- Rosanna Carvacho Elliott
Person
Thank you so much for your patience, Rosanna Carvacho Elliott here this afternoon on behalf of the Early Care and Education Consortium, want to express our very strong support for the ECE Coalition's rate reform, which I know you've heard a lot about. Appreciate the Committee's analysis as well, and the great questions today. Also just want to stress that unfortunately, the reimbursement structure here in California is not taking into account the fact that four-year-olds are leaving the child care system. As you know, Senator, with the expansion of transitional kindergarten.
- Rosanna Carvacho Elliott
Person
So did just want to put that on the record, that even if we are able to move forward with this, and we are very supportive of the rate reform, changes that need to be made, and they do need to be made, but we are also going to need to take into account the loss of four year olds and the fact that those four year olds are helping to subsidize the cost of infants and toddlers in this state.
- Rosanna Carvacho Elliott
Person
And so infant and toddler care is just going to go through the roof. Frankly, I heard from someone in the Bay Area who's pregnant and they're looking at $3,500 a month for infant care. So it's pretty amazing. So thank you very much.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Any other in-person? Seeing none, Moderator, If you could please prompt the individuals waiting to give a public comment over the phone, kindly let me know how many in queue.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you for your public comment you may press one and then zero. Again, that is one and then zero for public comment. And we have about 62 in queue.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. We're going to limit comments to 30 seconds. For those joining us through the teleconference. Go ahead and queue the first one. Let's open the lines.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 16, your line is open.
- MaƩva Marc
Person
Hello. Good afternoon, Members. I'm MaƩva Marc with Kidango. On behalf of the children and families we serve and our childcare programs, we are asking you to support rate reform, waiving family fees and basing contract earnings on enrollment. In addition, we ask that you would provide an 18-month exemption for experienced assistant teachers to act in the capacity of associate teacher and a change to the renewal requirements for associate teacher permit holders. I look forward to speaking to your staff about this in the future. Thank you for your support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next we'll go to line 76. Your line is open.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Good afternoon. Nicole Wattleman on behalf of San Bernardino County in support of the request for $43.7 million in 23-24 and $52.8 million ongoing to create new models for serving foster youth with severe trauma and complex needs, it's vital that these foster youth must have proper housing and access to supportive services while they await family placement. In addition, on behalf of the children's partnership, we support the BCP for AB 2832, whole child community equity. This will help narrow the racial and socioeconomic gaps in our state's early childhood education system. By establishing a tool to identify the equity needs.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next, we'll go to line 102. Your line is open. Line 102, do we have you? Please go ahead.
- Ellie Lue
Person
Hi, everyone. I am Ellie Lue. I'm an MSW student currently studying at USC in La County. I'm calling in support of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services and NASW's California $1.9 million budget ask to increase the foster family agency's rate to prevent reductions and closures of foster family agencies. As someone who's personally going through the process through fostering my niece who was born with drugs in her system, I have first-hand experience of the difference that these services make in children's lives and in the caretakers' lives and without these services. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 132. Your line is open.
- Lorena Parada
Person
Hi, my name is Lorena Parada. I'm a MSW student candidate at the University of Southern California and I'm also calling in support of the California Alliance and Child of Family Services with their 11.9 million budget ask to increase for family foster agency. As someone who has gone through the certification of becoming a resource parent, I have witnessed how much work these agencies put into recruiting, training and educating resource parents.
- Lorena Parada
Person
If these family-focused agencies close due to a lack of support, it would be devastating to children and families who really need them. And social workers cannot run this work alone. Thank you.
- Carol Ramirez
Person
Good afternoon, my name is Carol Ramirez. I'm the chief program officer of Wayfinder Family Services serving children and youth throughout California, LA, Orange County, Yolo, Sacramento.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next we'll go to line 165.
- Carol Ramirez
Person
And I'm calling in strong support of the California Alliance Child and Family Services $11.9 million budget and increased FFA rate. We are critical partners with our counties, as you heard earlier, in serving our high-needs youth, we recruit families, we support them. We have social workers who are 24/7 and we cannot continue. We're going to reduce our services. We are at risk of closing and it will have huge human and fiscal costs. Thank you for your support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next we go line 170, your line is open.
- Janelle Merwin
Person
Hi, my name is Janelle Merwin. I'm a former foster youth from Los Angeles County calling in support of issue 16, the 1$6.5 million budget asked to establish the self-housing supplement for youth and extended foster care. To have affordable housing and stability, we can prevent and end foster youth homelessness. Foster youth are already at a disadvantage.
- Janelle Merwin
Person
Please help foster youth have a fair chance at striving for success, which starts with the foundation of having a stable, affordable home. Thank you for supporting our vulnerable population. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 172. Your line is open.
- Anisa Khanmohamed
Person
Hi, my name is Anisa Khanmohamed and I'm with Allies for Every Child in Los Angeles County calling in support of the $16.5 million budget ask to establish the still housing supplement for youth in extended foster care.
- Anisa Khanmohamed
Person
An economic roundtable study found that young people who are homeless when they enter adulthood face an especially high risk of chronic homelessness, so preventing and ending youth homelessness is critical. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 174. Your line is open.
- Tiffany Whiten
Person
Tiffany White with SEIU California. We urge to continue support for those youth with complex needs in order to address the current needs related to placement and support, funding for sustained staffing and we also support the proposed $35.8 million for local child support agencies. While it is short of what is really needed, it is something that will assist staff management services, and for that, we are appreciative. Thank you so much.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next to the line 184. Line 184, your line is open. We will move on to line 188. Your line is open.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hello Members, Kathy Mossberg, representing the First Five Association of California voicing our support on just a couple of issues. On item one, issue seven, the association supports the request to continue family fee waivers, as well as the ECE Coalition's request for additional funds for childcare rates that actually cover the cost of providing care. And under item two, issue number four, the Association supports the request to stabilize the family resource center system. Thanks for your time today.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 191, your line is open.
- Wendy Wang
Person
My name is Wendy Wang with Sycamore, the nonprofit organization that operates a family resource center in LA County. Under item 16, we urge the subcommittee to support the $75 million over three years budget request for family resource centers. We desperately need this multi-year state funding to sustain critical services like food pantries and after-school tutoring programs to some of California's most historically underresourced communities. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you, next, we'll go to line 193. Your line is open.
- Raquel Yoffie
Person
Good afternoon, Chair. This is Raquel Yoffie with the California Alternative Payment Program Association. CAPPA wants to underscore our support for the ECE Coalition's ask to raise provider rates by 25 percent. Every day, our agencies see providers close their doors, leaving families having to go through the process of finding a provider that suits their needs all over again. This illustrates yet another reason that agencies need their funding increased so they can help these families re-enroll and find stable care. We need more slots.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you for calling in.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 203. Your line is open.
- Teri Olle
Person
Hello. Thank you, Madam Chair and Members of the Committee, this is Teri Olle from Economic Security Project Action, proud sponsor of the stakeholder request number seven in item 16, which would support SB 33, a first-of-its-kind five-month guaranteed income for homeless youth graduating from high school and transitioning to college and career.
- Teri Olle
Person
About 15,000 high school seniors in California experiencing this. They have hopes and dreams like everyone else, but the barriers are often insurmountable. Guaranteed income would help them meet their needs, provide economic stability at a critical juncture, and disrupt poverty.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Thank you. Line 220, your line is open.
- Sue Evans
Person
Hi. Thank you. My name is Sue Evans, Walden Family Services COO. I'm calling to support the desperate need for the $11.9 million budget ask for the FFA.
- Sue Evans
Person
Without this, we risk closure and leave very vulnerable children without foster care. I also support AB 525, the SILP housing supplement, which is very much needed to support our transitional housing youth. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we're going to line 202, your line is open.
- Keisha Nzewi
Person
Good afternoon, I'm Keisha Nzewi with the California Childcare Resource and Referral Network in unwavering support of the ECE coalition ask.
- Keisha Nzewi
Person
I just like to uplift and remind you of the 25 percent across-the-board increase in rates that we need immediately and to suspend the family fees through September 30 as we are allowed. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 223, your line is open.
- Laura Richardson
Person
Hi, good afternoon. My name is Laura Richardson and I work for Koinonia Family Services, serving thousands of California's most at-risk children, including providing intensive services, foster care and serving complex needs youth.
- Laura Richardson
Person
And I'm calling in strong support of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services' $11.9 million budget act for FFAs and $47 million budget requests to provide a one time supplement to increase our SPRTP direct care service salaries. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 208, your line is open.
- Esperanza Ocegueda
Person
Hi, my name is Esperanza Ocegueda and I'm the policy advocate with Seneca Family of Agencies, and we provide services in 18 California counties. I'm calling in support of two California Alliance of Children and Family Services budget asks. The first is the $11.9 million budget ask to increase the foster family agency rate and the second is the $47 million budget request to provide a one-time supplemental increase to SGRTP direct care staff salaries. Both of these are incredibly critical to retain staff in this behavioral health workforce crisis. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 205, your line is open.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you, next, we'll go to line 235, your line is open.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hello, I am with Rancho San Antonio Boys Home in Los Angeles serving the youth for the last 90 years. I am calling to support the Alliance of Child and Family Service for $7 million ask. Thank you very much.
- Gina Peck
Person
Hello, my name is Gina Peck, VP from Sycamores in Los Angeles County, calling regarding item 16 and in support of the $11.9 million ask to increase the FFA foster family agency rate to prevent reductions and closures of agencies. These agencies recruit and train foster parents and work with children with high needs in family settings.
- Gina Peck
Person
Also in support of $47 million request to provide a one-time supplement to increase STRTP direct care staff salaries in order to retain staff critically necessary to work with very high-risk youth. Thank you.
- Rebecca Gonzales
Person
Good afternoon. This is Rebecca Gonzales with the National Association of Social Workers, California chapter.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, line 238. Your line is open.
- Rebecca Gonzales
Person
We represent social workers with their degree in social work and we are here to support our budget ask, along with the California Alliance of Child and Family Services for FFA social workers and to make sure those FFAs can stay open and that social workers are fairly compensated. I also want to support the first issue item under issue 16, housing affordability for youth and silps, and also number two, to raise the age for extended foster care. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next for the line 229.
- Lily Marquez
Person
Hi, my name is Lily Ana Marquez. I'm a parent advocate with Parent Voices of San Francisco, California. I'm surprised to hear about the numbers of childcare slots which shouldn't be the case given that I was on the waitlist for five years. My kids didn't benefit from childcare. My son has an IEP and huge learning issues should have been avoided had he been in an early education setting.
- Lily Marquez
Person
I'm urging to please extend the family fees, increase childcare providers, implement a rate reform, and fill those childcare slots that are much needed to keep kids learning and parents working. The workforce depends on it. Thank you for your time.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, go to line 181.
- Joshua Gauger
Person
Good afternoon. Josh Gogger, on behalf of the chief Probatio Officers of California, in addition to co-sponsoring the complex needs stakeholder proposal, CPOC is also pleased to support the foster youth and supervise independent living placement stakeholder budget request in Issue 16.
- Joshua Gauger
Person
The Probation Department's work to support former foster youth participating in extended foster care. Housing for the transitional-age youth population can be extremely challenging, and this additional housing supplement will help with housing security and allow youth to focus on achieving their academic and vocational goals. Thank you. T
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we go to line 231.
- Colleen Pagter
Person
Hi, Colleen Pagter. On behalf of First Place for Youth, I'm calling in support of issue 16, item one, the $16.5 million budget ask to establish the SILP housing supplement for youth and extended foster care. As a THP NMD provider, we have seen the positive impact the supplement has had on our program and the youth we serve, and we feel that those in SILP should also receive the same benefit in order to achieve housing stability. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 244, your line is open.
- Adam Seiden
Person
My name is Adam Seiden. I'm the Director of policy advocacy at the Children's Bureau of Southern California supporting the Family Resource Center budget request. Family resource centers are an important but unfunded part of the state's social safety net. They save the state money by reducing policy, child protective services and the cost in child welfare service.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 186, your line is open.
- Patrick Abbott
Person
Hello, my name is Patrick Gabbott. I'm a former foster youth from Sacramento and San Francisco county, and I'm calling in support of issue 16.
- Patrick Abbott
Person
The budget asks to establish the SILP housing supplement for use in extended foster care so that we can have housing affordability and stability. This will prevent foster youth homelessness and we can work to an end of it. When I turned 18, I ended up in a SILP and that SLIP was unsafe for me and so I ended up living in a homeless shelter for six months after that because there was just nothing available for me. It really helped me. Thank you so much.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 279, your line is open.
- Christy Crespin
Person
My name is Christy Crespin. I am a licensed clinical social worker and I'm calling for support of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services and NASW California's Ask for the $11.9 million increase for foster family agencies. I have been involved with foster care growing up with 21 special needs foster children in my family. I worked as a social worker with foster children with special needs. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next is line 288.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We'll be taking 15 more minutes of public comment. 15 more minutes.
- Melissa Villagomez
Person
Hi, Melissa Villagomez with Walden Family Services. I'm a former foster youth calling in support of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services 1$1.9 million budget ask to increase the FFA rate to prevent reduction and closure of FFAs. FFAs recruit and train resource parents into the system to work with foster children with high needs in family-based settings.
- Melissa Villagomez
Person
Without the extra support, many of us are set to close or reduce services which will devastate the youth and families that we work with. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 259, your line is open.
- Raymon Cancino
Person
Good evening. My name is Raymon Cancino, CEO of Community Bridges in Santa Cruz County, operating six family resource centers and calling on behalf of our family resource centers to be in support of the action of $25 million a year.
- Raymon Cancino
Person
We have served throughout many of the state's disasters, including floods, fires, but also the housing crisis through housing FRCs. These funds will help support across the state to ensure nonprofits like FRCs are there to respond to the state's needs during disasters. So thank you for your support and looking forward.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 226. Your line is open.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 226, your line is open. It and we will move on to line 275, your line is open.
- Jimmy Austin
Person
Welcome Committee Members. Jimmy Austin, independent consultant, member of the Truth and Justice and Child Support Coalition. Please enact full pass through for current how works families and eliminate the $6.5 billion of child support debt owed by low income parents. Debts balloon. Because the state adds 10% interest rate, California can eliminate state owned debt at virtually no cost. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 297, your line is open.
- Abraham Mendoza
Person
Good afternoon. Abraham Mendoza, Director, San Joaquin County Department of Child Support Services where we serve just under 33,000 children. I'm here in support of 36 million as planned and additional funding for the child support program. Some information San Joaquin last year provided a collective $63 million in child support and distributed 53 million in child support funds for the families of San Joaquin County. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 182, your line is open.
- Ignacio Guerrero
Person
Ignacio Guerrero, member of the Child Support Directors Association and the Director of the Santa Clara County Department of Child Support Services, speaking on item 5175, issue one regarding the California Department of Child Support Services budget. I want to take the opportunity to thank you for your consideration regarding the increased funding proposed in the Governor's Budget for the California Child Support program. Santa Clara County serves over 26,000 cases, over 40,000 children, and we collect $90 million a year and the budget is crucial for us to continue to.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you for calling in.
- Ignacio Guerrero
Person
Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 290, your line is open.
- Jeff Neal
Person
Thank you. Madam Chair Jeff Neal here representing the counties of Contra Costa and Yolo, both of which are in support of the proposal for an additional $35.8 million to support local child support agencies. Thank you.
- Karriann Hinds
Person
Thank you. Next we'll go to 267. Hi, my name is Karriann Farrell Hinds, Chief of Staff for Vista Del Mar Child and Family Services in Los Angeles County, where we operate one of the only two community treatment facilities in California calling in support of issue 16 on the CTF supplement. CTFs work with children with the most severe, complex and serious emotional challenges in a secured environment and accept youth from all over the state. We are the only agencies with this expertise.
- Karriann Hinds
Person
The funds will provide a modest increase in the supplement, which has not changed since 22 years ago, and ensures CTS can continue to serve these youth due to our work providing a continuum of care services for children.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you. Line 194, your line is open.
- Liane Peck
Person
Thank you. Liane Peck, Director of Solano County Department of Child Support Services and member of the Child Support Directors Association, speaking to item 5175, issue number one.
- Liane Peck
Person
Thank you for your consideration regarding the funding proposed in the Governor's Budget for the California Child Support program. As a county that has received a portion of the additional funding over the past two years, we have utilized that to recruit for and fill vacant positions in order to continue to deliver services to the families in our community. Currently, Solana county provides child support services to just over 12,000 children and distributes approximately $40 million per year. Thank you. Thank you. Line 255, your line is open.
- Andrew Avila
Person
Hello, Andrew Avila. On behalf of Early Edge California, thank you to Chair Menjivar and Committee Members for hosting today's hearing, and we also thank the Administration for its dedication to early learning and care. As for more four-year-olds are served in TK, we need to increase investments to support our mixed delivery system, and we can do that by prioritizing livable wages and compensation for our early learning and care workforce while also addressing the cost of care for providers and families.
- Andrew Avila
Person
Early Edge is also a proud member of the ECE Coalition and supports the coalition's request to increase reimbursement rates by 25% and adopted an alternative payment model that covers the full cost.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much for calling.
- Andrew Avila
Person
Thank you.
- Angelina Rodriguez
Person
Thank you. Line 225, your line is open. Hi, my name is Angelina Rodriguez, and I am a child care provider from Sacramento County and a member of the Child Care Providers United. I am here to urge you to create a single rate system that takes into account the total cost of care. Providers like me have spent the last two years developing a great recommendation with the state about how to do this, which the Governor included in this January budget.
- Angelina Rodriguez
Person
The time to take action on this is now. Without the change provider like myself, we'll have to leave the town care industry because we cannot afford to stay in business anymore. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 197, your line is open.
- Justine Flores
Person
My name is Justine Flores. I'm a childcare provider from Montebello, California, and a member of CCPU. I am here to urge that you create a single rate system that takes into account the total cost of care.
- Justine Flores
Person
In addition, waiving the family fee, providers like myself have spent the last two years developing a joint recommendation with the state about how to do this, which the Governor included in his January budget. The time to take action is now. Without this change, providers like myself are going to continue to leave the childcare industry.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you for calling in. Thank you. Line 215, your line is open.
- Heidi Escobar
Person
Hi, my name is Heidi Escobar. I'm a childcare provider from Van Nuys, California. I'm a CCPU member, Project SAU Local 99521-UDWAFCME. In order for me to sustain myself as a provider remain my business needs a rate system that covers the actual cost of providing care. It is critical that the state moves to the true cost of care now so that providers like me can keep our doors open. On our outdated rate system, we receive only a fraction of what it costs to provide quality care, and thousands of providers have closed.
- Heidi Escobar
Person
To make things worse, our 1400 per child patients that were promised two providers by December of last year have not arrived, and that was the only funding that the 100 billion surplus. Thank you so much for calling in. Now we have to wait for the summer, which is not fair. Thank you, thank you. Line 260, your line is open.
- Maria Chelsea
Person
Hi, my name is Maria Chelsea and I'm representing the Santa Barbara County Network of Family Resource Centers, and I'm calling in to urge you to support item four under issue 16, stabilizing family resource centers. Family resource centers provide a trusted, culturally accessible link for parents that can make all the difference at getting the services they need. But frcs have no stable source of funding. Please help. Thank you. Thank you. Line 278, your line is open.
- Lindsey Call
Person
Hi, my name is Lindsay Call and I work at the Mountain Community Family Resource Center in Kern County serving the Fraser Mountain areas. And I'm calling in support of item four under issue 716, stabilizing family resource centers. Family resource centers are absolutely critical to family stability, especially in rural areas like ours where we serve children, families, seniors, veterans, and especially during extreme weather events like we had recently. When some county services get cut off, a local family resource center makes all the difference in getting people emergency food and support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you. Line 256, your line is open.
- Melissa Vittoria
Person
Hi, this is Melissa Vittoria. I work at the Kern River Valley Family Resource Center, Program coordinator in Lake Isabella, Kern County, and to piggyback off of Lindsay's from calling in from Fraser. I just want everyone to know that family resources do need support, as we do help our little rural communities in preventing child welfare involvement, disaster relief and economical needs. Since then, we've had fires and flooding in our community, and our resource center has been a solid rock for families in our community.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you for your time and your support. Thank you. Line 233, your line is open. Line 233, your line is open.
- Jocelyn Alvarado
Person
Hi, my name is Jocely Alvarado. I'm of Tracy, California, San Joaquin County. I'm a daycare provider here. I'm urging to support childcare providers for the new budget proposal, as well as to waive the family fee for parents to be able to continue working as well as ourselves. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 254, your line is open.
- Michelle Gormand
Person
Hi, my name is Michelle Gormand, and I work in the Siskiyou Community Resource Collaborative, which runs eight family resource centers in Siskiyou County, California. And I'm asking for your support for issue 16, item four, where family resource centers can really make a difference with families in crisis and prevent them from entering the child welfare system. For every dollar spent, you can save $365. And we appreciate your support. We really need it. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 95, your line is open.
- Tanya Marcus
Person
Hello, my name is Tanya Marcus. I am currently an MSW student attending the University of Southern California. I am calling for the support of the California alliance for the $11.9 million budget. I have had the opportunity to work with families and specifically children who have been placed in the child welfare system. And as I have worked with some of these families, I have heard about the great amount of help that foster family agencies have provided to them in terms of services and resources offered. And this is why I would like to support for this budget so it could increase more help and programs and resources. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Thank you. Line 177, your line is open.
- Christian Green
Person
Hello, my name is Christian Green. I'm the Policy and Advocacy Director for Sanctuary of Pope, also Professor of Sociology in the form of foster youth. I am in calling in support of the item 16 for the 16.5 million budget asked to establish the SILP housing supplement for youth and extended foster care to have housing affordability and stability. Our youth are being put into low-tier housing because of the availability for housing. As we know, LA is a high on rent and something innovative needs to be put into place.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you.
- Christian Green
Person
Okay, thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 263, your line is open.
- Jen Portillo
Person
Hi, this is Jen Portillo with the Childcare Resource Center and a member of the California Family Resource Association calling in support of the proposal for 25 million a year for three years and funding for family resource centers. Through their trust partnerships with parents, FRCs are instrumental in the success of many of the state's family stability and community well being efforts.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 94, your line is open.
- Eva Rodriguez
Person
Hello, my name is Eva Rodriguez. I am MSW student at USB. I'm in support of the California lines of children and family services. I think this is an important issue to focus on for safety, well being, and permanency, and not necessarily worry about the financial security for most dedicated workers in the agencies. Thank you so much for your support.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Recognizing that we still have a lot of callers waiting to provide public comment to accommodate all of you. Just state your name, where you're calling from and your support of which specific issue. No more background. I apologize. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 251, your line is open.
- Day Augustine
Person
Yes, hi, this is Day Augustine. I am a childcare provider and we are urging to help us with the 200 billion surplus that needs to go to the providers. We haven't seen them yet.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much. Last year. Thank you. Next caller. Thank you. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 289, your line is open.
- Amanice Banati
Person
Hello, my name is Amanice Banati. I'm calling from Los Angeles County. I am a social worker, school social worker, and I'm calling in support of the $11.9 million budget act from California alliance of Child and Family Services and services in NASW, California, also in support to raise the AIDS for extended foster care and for housing affordability. Thanks, amanice, so much. Thank you. Bye. Line 206, your line is open.
- John Nibbio
Person
John Nibbio Family Care Networks, San Luis Obispo County. Support of the $11.9 million of lifeline support for foster family agencies.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 295, your line is open.
- Lahsay Unknown
Person
Hi, my name is Lashay. I'm with Parent Voices. I'm a parent leader and we are urging you to pass a budget that continues to spend in the family. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 239, your line is open.
- Yvonne Unknown
Person
Hi, my name is Yvonne. I'm a childcare provider in the Marino Valley area. I'm a Member of the Childcare providers United and Locals 992521. I'm asking you to please change the rate, our rate, to cost of living. And I'm also asking to please extend the family fee waiver.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Thank you. Line 270, your line is open. Line 270, your line is open. We will move on to line 89, your line is open.
- Sergio Torres
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Sergio Torres. I'm a master's in social work candidate at the University of Southern California as well as a therapist at the Wesley Health Centers in Los Angeles County. Calling support of the 11.9 million budget asked increased FFA. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 257, your line is open.
- Yvonne Cottage
Person
Hi, my name is Yvonne Cottage. I'm a family childcare provider from Lancaster and also a member of Childcare Providers United. I'm here in support of the single rate structure, the release of the $1,400 stipends and also waiving the family fees. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go. Line 269, your line is open.
- Cameron Lewis
Person
Good afternoon. Cameron Lewis from Shields for families in Los Angeles. We are in support of item four, under issue 16, stabilizing and strengthening family resource centers. Thank you
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 280, your line is open.
- Patricia Daniels
Person
Hello, my name is Patricia Daniels. I'm with Esperanet in Monterey County. I'm calling in support of the California alliance of Child and Family Services. 11.9 million budget asked to increase foster family agency rate. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 195, your line is open. Hello? Yes, go ahead. Hello? We can hear you. Yes.
- Catherine Crystallis
Person
Oh, sorry. Okay. Hello, my name is Catherine Crystallis and I am a USC student earning a Master's in social work. I'm calling in regards to California alliance of Children and Family services and NASW. California's 11.9 million budget asking to increase the foster family agency rate to prevent reductions in closures of foster family agencies. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 307, your line is open.
- Linda Nguy
Person
Good afternoon. Linda Way with Western Center on Law and Poverty would like to align our comments with the Truth and Justice Coalition to ensure full pass-through happens for former and current CalWorks families and eliminating government owed child support debt. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 309, your line is open.
- Sarawak Ripsa
Person
Good afternoon, Chair, Members. My name is Sarawak Ripsa, representing Young Invincibles calling in support of item seven under issue 16 to provide guaranteed income to homeless graduating high school seniors. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 201, your line is open. Line 201, your line is open. And we will move on to. Line 93, your line is open.
- Stephanie Santiago
Person
Hi, my name is Stephanie Santiago. I'm a student at the University of Southern California earning my master's in social work and I am in support of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services and the NASW budget increase. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 100 and 183, your line is open.
- Giselle Terrance
Person
Hi, my name is Giselle Terrace and I'm currently a student at USC obtaining my master's in social work as well. I'm calling in support of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services and NAFW. California's 11.9 million budget increase to the foster family agency rate to prevent reduction and coordination of foster family aid. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 327.
- Terry Unknown
Person
Hi, my name is Terry. I'm a childcare provider from Long Beach and I'm a member of the Childcare Providers United. So I'm calling in support and hoping that you urging you guys to release the funds for the $1,400 stipend so we could keep up with the cost of living, give us some more funds out of the $100 billion and to waive the family fees. Thank you so much.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 328, your line is open. Line 328, your line is open. We'll move on to line 243. Your line is open.
- Paul Unknown
Person
Thank you very much. My name is Paul, a member of CCPU. I'm calling on support of waiving family fees, single rate support rate for all childcare providers and also for the release of the funds of the $1,442 that was promised for all childcare providers.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Thank you. Line 336, your line is open. Hello? Is that me? Yes.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Okay. The phones were a little complicated. I'm calling in as a childcare provider myself, and I have a number of thoughts on a number of these issues, but I think the most important one that I can comment on is just really the general format of this. I think it's actually pretty shameful that the Chair is limiting public comment. Next caller. Government is about people. It's about people being cut off. Maybe you should plan your hearing a little better next time.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Moderator next caller, please. Don't you think. Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 339. Your line is open.
- Aubrey Sweeny
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Aubrey Sweeney, and I'm the Executive Director at Rancho San Antonio in Los Angeles County. And I'm calling to support the California alliance's $47 million budget request to provide a one-time supplement to increase STRTP direct care staff salaries. This is imperative. Thank you so much for this consideration.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 304, your line is open.
- Elizabeth Unknown
Person
Hi, my name is Elizabeth. I'm a childcare provider from Long Beach, California, and a member of CCPU. In order for me to sustain myself and providers and remain my business, I need a raise system to cover an actual cost providing care. It is critical that we move the true cost of care now so that provides like me.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you so much. Next caller. Thank you. Line 333.
- Sharice Dancy
Person
Hi, my name is Sharice Dancy. I'm a case manager with Contra Costa health plan in Contra Costa County, calling to urge the support of the California alliance and Child and Family Services, calling to increase the budget.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you so much. Thank you. Line 221, your line is open. Hello? Yes, I can hear you.
- Marcella Unidentified
Person
Hello? Yes, hi. My name is Marcella. I'm in Fresno, California, and I'm calling in regards to the rate increase in higher rates and also the stipend, the winter, they turn into summer. That needs to be expedited and. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 340, your line is open.
- Kathy Austin
Person
Good afternoon, Madam Chair and Members. Kathy Dan Austin, representing John Burton Advocates for Youth just calling in support of 15 and a half million for the housing supplement. We really need to keep up with the increased housing costs these youth days. On behalf of the American Association of University Women California. I'm also calling in support of waiving family fees for childcare and getting a stabilized rate in place.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 234, your line is open. Hello? Yes, can you hear me? Hello, please go ahead.
- Dominic Unknown
Person
Oh, hi, my name is Dominic, I'm with Local 99 and I am in support of single rate structure, releasing our stipend and also waiving the family fees. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 334, your line is open.
- Sylvia Hernandez
Person
Hi, my name is Sylvia Hernandez and I'm calling. I'm a healthcare provider and a member for Local 99, CCPU. Also I was calling for the release of the fund of the 1400 for child piping and support for the family wave family fees and for the single rate structure. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Line 345, your line is open.
- Tony Rodriguez
Person
Hi, my name is Tony Rodriguez and I'm an MSW student at USC in LA County. And I'm calling the California Alliance of Challenge Budget to ask to increase the foster family agency rates to prevent reduction enclosures for family agencies. Thank you, thank you. Line 304, your line is open. This will be the last public comment we'll take today.
- Tony Rodriguez
Person
Okay, I'm asking to weigh the 14 for children's statement that we promised to providers by December of last year have not arrived. This is the only funding from 100 billion surplus per provider. Now we're being told by the state that we won't give funding until summer. This makes it harder to pay our bills.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you so much Madam Chair. We only have one more in queue. Would you like to take the last one? Last one. Thank you line 347.
- Libby Victoria
Person
Hello, I'm Libby Victoria calling from University of Southern California. I am calling to support the California Alliance of Child and Family Services 11.9 million budget asked to increase the foster family agency. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And we have no further in queue.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Great. Having exhausted all public comments through the teleconference, I want to know. SC organized and UCLA did not call in my alma mater, so a little upsetting there. If for those who did not make it in time and you still want to provide a public comment as a reminder, you can still write in your comment to the budget of fiscal review Committee or visit our website because it's always important to hear your thoughts. Thank you. For everyone. This concludes the Senate budget Subcommitee number three on health and human services.
Bill BUD 5180
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