Senate Standing Committee on Revenue and Taxation

The Committee on Tax and Revenue will begin in 30 seconds, roughly 30 seconds. The Committee on Tax and Revenue, Revenue and Taxation will come to order. I don't see a quorum here, so we will begin as a subcommitee and we'll establish a quorum once we have sufficient membership in the Committee. Present first.

The present we now hear from Seminary Member Schiavo. Welcome, and you may present your bill.

This chair is like a squeaky tank in a recent parade. Okay. Good morning, Mr. Chair and Senators. Thank you so much for the opportunity to present AB 27 today. If you had not heard, the Chiquita Canyon landfill is the only fire still burning in LA County.

This is underground fire that has expanded and tripled in size from 30 to 90 acres of burning trash that's expected to burn for the next 20 or more years. It's been releasing toxic chemicals, cancer causing chemicals into our community, making communities sick.

We have one neighborhood which Brandy lives in, right next to the landfill, where we believe there's a cancer cluster where 10 people on a small street have cancer. This has been a horrible, horrible disaster that is causing hand tremors. People are becoming disabled because of this disaster and can no longer work, losing homes.

And, you know, some are starting to flee the area literally because it's unhealthy to breathe the air because of this horrible disaster that the landfill has been negligent in allowing to happen. They offered a relief Fund for about a year, which unfortunately ended in March.

This was to help people do home hardening because people have to run their air conditioner 24/7. They have to keep windows and doors closed all the time. Their, you know, heating and AC bills have gone through the roof. People have to go stay in hotels or camp or go other places when it is really bad.

And they literally cannot breathe. And some folks have had to redo their, you know, heating and cooling systems because they have swamp coolers that take air from the outside. So there's been huge, huge costs to folks in the community.

These relief funds have been incredibly helpful to allow people to do that work and protect their homes when they need to. Unfortunately, it counts as income. And so some folks are being pushed into a higher tax bracket because of the funds that they have taken.

Some folks have not taken the relief funds because they were afraid it would kick them off of state assistance like CalFresh or Medi Cal.

And so AB 27 is really aimed at making sure that folks who are already suffering in our community are not penalized because of taking the funds that they needed to be able to Live and survive. So I have a couple witnesses with me today to speak.

Brandy House and Nora Clemens, who live in the community and who have been experiencing this themselves.

Before we move, we would like to establish the quorum. Secretary, please call the roll.

Senators McNerney.

Here.

Valladares. Here. Ashby. Grayson. Umberg. We have quorum.

We have a quorum. Thank you. Witness, you may proceed.

Hello, Madam Chair and Senators. My name is Brandy House and I want to thank you for the opportunity to speak. When we moved to Valverde in 1998, we were told that the landfill would soon close. But it stayed open for 20 more years. And then in 2017, despite overwhelming community opposition, the county approved another 30 year extension.

In 2022, this turned to a public health crisis. People began experiencing daily headaches and the symptoms that Pilar Schiavo formentioned. My son and other kids in our neighborhood have uncontrollable nosebleeds regularly. In 2023, we learned of an elevated landfill temperature event and that had been going on for over a year.

Tox are causing chemicals like methane and benzene are being released into our air and contaminating it. Chiquita Canyon Landfill created a relief fund for impacted residents that lasted about a year until March. My family lives just 1,600ft from the reaction site. And so we were approved for the funds.

We used those funds to try and protect our home and our family. We installed a central AC system with closed ducting and HEPA filtration. We replaced windows, sealed doors, purchased medical grade air purifiers. Because we couldn't open our windows or use the swamp cooler, our energy bills rose very high. Despite these efforts, our symptoms still persisted.

So we began sleeping away as much as possible in our travel trailer. And we purchased memberships to access safe spaces for homeschooling our 13 year old son. And still our symptoms persisted. Around this time, I was diagnosed with stage three breast cancer. Just a year and a half I had been cleared and there was no cancer.

I'm not alone. There's four of my immediate neighbors who also have cancer. And this is not. It's just not normal. Our community needs more help. We don't need to be penalized for help that we finally got. These funds were essential to protecting our health and not income.

But they pushed us into a higher tax bracket, resulting in unexpected taxes. I'm asking that these funds be classified as non taxable. Given the circumstances, I really feel that is the right and just thing to do. I want to thank you for your time and respectfully request that you give an aye vote on AB 27.

Hi, good morning. My name is Nora Lynn Clemens. My husband and our four kids have lived in Valverde since right before the COVID lockdown. And I'm here for the same to urge you to vote in favor of AB 27 and keep our relief funds from being taxed. We often ask in the neighborhood why?

Why would monies that we were supposed to be gifted to us given to us to relieve our sufferings and financial stress caused by this crisis create more undue stress, unexpected added stress. When we moved here, like I said, it was right before COVID Not knowing Covid was coming.

We were so relieved and blessed to be able to enjoy what we call California country. We were out in the trails. Everybody was shut in at the complex where we used to live. And we were able to literally breathe easily. Just go out trails for miles and see no one go look at the deer at sunrise.

And just really just felt so blessed to have ended up in that place. And in no way did we expect to find ourselves living under this toxic environmental crisis. Did not see that coming. We have been experiencing nosebleeds. My son, as she mentioned, my elementary school son, headaches.

My daughter and I have brain fog kind of this waking up in this confusion. Sometimes adult onset asthma. And then the cancers that we've learned about in our community, compounded by the constant stress of worrying what the long term effects are going to be on John.

John is the youngest of our four and he is still in his formative phase of development. And I don't want to be, and I'm not being dramatic. I literally have had waking up thinking this is like a documentary, we're going to be the people in the next documentary. And that's a crazy thought, but it seems so fictional.

But this is real, this is what we're living. So yeah, the fear and the stress have been difficult to manage.

It's become depression at times very sad and gross that I actually have to call my house sort of a depression house because of a lot of the things that have happened that we haven't been able to afford to repair. Because we have to focus on the air situation.

So we can't fix some other things that need to be fixed. So now it just sort of looks like a depression house when you come to visit. When Chiquita Canyon landfill initially offered funds, we were afraid to accept it because we didn't trust them. Obviously they did not have our best interest at heart.

So we thought, of course we're not going to take like hush money or something. Again sounding like it's part of some movie.

But then when the attorneys looked over everything and actually did have to address some things that were not honest in what they were doing, we did accept and we're very thankful to receive some relief to bring down our debt to SoCal Edison.

I have been able to get our family out of town, but I have neighbors who have spent their money on like actually renting out of town. And so they could be away for weeks at a time just to experience relief from their symptoms. These checks are not income for financial gain. They are supposed to provide relief.

They are a form of redress for loss of health, of financial stability, loss of mental well being, and just peace of mind and in some cases life expectancy. Taxing these funds just adds insult to our injuries. It really does.

It's like that we actually have to be here talking to you about this when we're supposed to be focusing on getting the problem solved; boggles my mind,It really does. Adding taxes can place already struggling families in even more difficult financial straits, as Brandy mentioned, by pushing us into this higher tax burden bracket. So please. Oh.

Our laws should reflect fairness and justice, not further penalize those of us who are really just trying to manage the environmental crisis that we're living in. We can't get out. We need help getting out of the situation. And money would help, but not tax money.

Sure. Okay. Thank you for the testimony. That certainly comes from the heart. Are there any other witnesses in the room in support?

Good morning, Erica Parker with Californians Against Waste in support. Thank you.

Thank you.

Marvin Dion with the County of Los Angeles and strong support. And we want to thank the assemblymember for her steadfast focus on this issue.

Seeing no more witnesses in support. Are there any witnesses in opposition? Seeing none. I'll bring this back to the Committee. Any?

Well, first of all, I want to thank the Assembly woman for being a steadfast voice on this issue in our community and for really bringing forward what I think is a not only common sense, but a bill that helps our community find justice.

I appreciate your work on this and I want to thank Brandy and Nora for your testimony for being a voice on behalf of our community. I have many friends that live in the Castaic and Belverde area and have lived there for decades. I go to barbecues there.

There are business owners that host me for events and their businesses in the Castake Industrial Center, a little lower than Chiquita Canyon. I've seen. I've smelled the horrific smells, have had, you know, slight headaches. I'm not living in it 24 hours though, like you guys are and suffering daily.

My best friend has a four year old little girl and as soon as they get a whiff of the landf she already knows run indoors. And this money is money that is is was given to you because you're living with this. And whether it's replacing doors or windows, this money is not income.

It's a stipend to help you and when you need it most. And I know a lot of people one would be paying out of pocket to to for these retrofits in their homes if they could afford it. And so this was really important. I think this is an important bill.

I want to thank you again for being a strong v our community. We have to do so much more on this issue. But this is one simple measure that I am supporting. Thank you.

Thank you.

And I'm going to comment that. Thank you for bringing this forward Senator Schiavo. Clearly it's a matter of justice and we want to see the people that are suffering from this injustice to be compensated without fear of having to pay taxes on that and other things that could happen from that. It could be ruinous.

So it's clearly needed and it's not. It should not be taxed. And I am happy to support the bill. And with that, would you like to close?

Grateful for the Committee's support and very grateful for Brandy and Nora coming up today. They've as people in the community say it feels like a full time job to be advocating around this issue. It's so, so much work.

But we're happy to give some relief and some justice and unfortunately because we don't have a State of emergency where things like this would be automatic, you know, I've been working to kind of piece together the things that would come with the State of emergency. But we're grateful to have bipartisan support. No. No votes.

And respectfully request an aye vote.

Thank you. And now the bill has been moved. Secretary, will you call the roll.

Motion is due passed to the Committee on Rules. Senators McNerney. Aye. McNerney. Aye. Valladares. Aye. Valladares. Aye. Ashby. Grayson. Grayson. aye. Umberg.

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

We have nine bills on today's agenda, five of which are on consent. The consent items are item number 5, SB 703 by Assemblymember Lee. Item 6, SB 829 by Assemblymember Sharpe Collins.

Item number 7, AB 1416 by Assemblymember Ta item 8, AB 1516 by Assembly Committee on Taxation and Revenue and item number 9, AB 1518 by the Assembly Committee on Taxation and Revenue. We will now call item number three AB 15 3:30. Member Rogers, welcome to the Committee.

Thank you, senator.

Chair Members. We are presenting AB330. It extends the sunset of a local prepaid Mobile Telephone Services Collection Act January 1st, 2031. The act requires certain retailers to collect a surcharge from purchases of prepaid wireless telephone services and remit collection amounts to the California Department of Tax and Fee Administration for distribution to participating local governments.

It's an 80 cent surcharge that includes 911 surcharge rate, CPUC reimbursement and cumulative universal services fees and the local user utility user taxes. This is bringing parity between the prepaid and the postpaid mobile telephony. This extension allows local governments to continue to collect these revenues which we know are very critical for our local communities.

With me today in support is Amy Jenkins on behalf of Union Services, who you can see is matching my vibe today and Ben Trivot.

Good morning Chair Members. Ben Trivot with leading California cities here to support AB330 which as mentioned extends the sunset date of the local Prepaid Mobile Telephony Services Collection Act. The act does support a local government's building to collect the utility taxes from retail sales of prepaid wireless service products and services.

Since 2016, cities have relied on these locally imposed voter approved revenue streams to provide important services like public safety and road repair. While revenues from this program have declined over the years, this law has been a success.

AB330, if not passed and signed this year, over 100 cities will be with the local DUT for these prepaid wireless services will lose their ability to collect the revenue at the end of the year as cities face significant impacts to their budgets, it's critical that we maintain every revenue source possible. So thank you for your time today.

Happy to answer any questions.

Yes, good morning Mr. Chairman and Members. Amy Jenkins on behalf of Muni Services, it's an avenue and insights analytics company. We're in strong support and a proud sponsor of this Bill. I want to thank the author for his leadership. I want to thank Committee staff for their very thorough analysis. Really appreciate that.

I think the author and the witness have already kind of stole my thunder. I think I'll just emphasize the fact that AB330 maintains an effective collection tool with no new fees, no rate changes and no cost to the state. It's a straightforward extension of existing law, already supported and extended by the Legislature multiple times without opposition.

We appreciate again Assembly Member Rogers leadership on this issue and urge your aye vote today. Thank you.

Thank Senator Rogers and the two witnesses, Amy and Ben, appreciate your testimony. And now any witnesses in the room in support, please come forward.

Good morning. Sharon Gonzalez on behalf of the cities of El Cerrito and Redwood City, in support. Thank you.

Good morning, Mr. Chair. Karen Lang on behalf of the City of Santa Monica, in support.

Good morning. Kiara Ross on behalf of the cities of Burbank and Glendale, in support.

Jeff Neal representing the City of Chula Vista, also in support.

Chair member Jael Dantas on behalf of Alameda County in support.

This is in opposition. Please come forward. I will ask the Committee Members if they have any questions or comments. Seeing none, I want to thank Senator Rogers and Amy and Ben for your testimony. Extending the sunset will ensure that local governments continue to have much needed tax revenue to support vital public services.

I will be supporting the Bill. Member, would you like to close?

Yeah.

This is a bipartisan Bill with no known opposition, and I ask for a support vote.

Do I hear a motion? Will the secretary please call the roll?

Motion is do passed to the Committee on Appropriations. [roll call]

Thank you.

Great.

Sorry. Yes. We don't...

Sort of.

Okay. Next we'll hear Item number four, AB 418 by Assemblymember Wilson. And Mr. Assembly Member Rogers will be making the presentation. Please proceed.

Absolutely. So I'm very honored to be presenting on behalf of Assemblymember Wilson. I promise you it will do no justice for her presentation, but I'm excited to be here. AB 418 creates a process that California's county tax collectors will follow when utilizing the Chapter 8 sales process.

This process affords property owners an administrative remedy if the property owner disputes the price set at a Chapter 8 tax sale when the property is tax defaulted. In California, there's currently two different ways that that property can be dispensed with. One is Chapter seven sales. One is Chapter eight sales.

In Chapter seven sales, there are competitive auctions where property may sell for more than the outstanding taxes. If that happens, the original owner is entitled to the excess proceeds that has one year to claim them under California law. Chapter 8 sales.

Instead of an auction, these sales involve a negotiated price with qualified bidders, such as public agencies or nonprofits who use the properties for affordable housing or open space preservation. The US Supreme Court unanimously ruled that Hennepin County, Minnesota, violated Mr. Tyler's constitutional rights by keeping $25,000 after the sale of her home to cover a $15,000 tax debt.

Currently, California's law prevents counties from depriving property owners of their excess proceeds without first providing one year to file the claim. However, the use of Chapter 8 sale proceeds, which involves a negotiated sales price on the defaulted property, has created some concerns about potential violations of the Tyler v. Hennepin decision.

If the property is disposed of for less than the fair market value, it raises a concern. There are thousands of tax defaulted properties throughout California that hold very little value for various reasons, making them difficult to itemize in statute fully.

Chapter 8 tax sales provide useful opportunities for distributing countless of these low value properties across California to make good on public needs. Chapter 7 Auction sales are often expensive and ineffective. Many properties repeatedly go through the cycle as buyers acquire them at auction, then abandon them after finding no development potential.

This leads to ongoing defaults, repeated resales and financial losses. The Chapter 8 sales process allows county tax collectors to dispose of these properties in a sensible way that does not waste public funds paying for private appraisals that could not be recovered in a tax sale due to the low value of the property.

The author added amendments to address the concerns of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, which in turn has brought them into a support position. It changed the 30 day notification requirement tax collectors must notify before a sale to 45 days. And with me today is Tehama County Treasurer Tax Collector Parker Hunt to speak on the important issue.

I want to thank the Assembly woman Wilson for authoring this bill and I want to thank the Chair and the rest of the committees for hearing it today. I'm Parker Hunt, I'm the Tehama County Treasurer Tax Collector. I'm also the Vice President of the California Association of County Treasurer Tax Collectors or CACTTC, which has sponsored this bill.

It's important. Tyler versus Hennepin was important because it did show that throughout the country there are takings that are happening. And now in California it's important to note that we have a five year tax sale process before default property and go up for sale in places like Pennsylvania at six months.

So we're always been progressive in taxpayer advocates in our Association. So we worked with the state and we determined that there hadn't been any takings that have occurred in California.

But, as we are so progressive and forward thinking with our taxpayers, we've had three attempted fixes to this, but none of them involve the tax collectors help crafting that. So this bill strikes that balance. We're adding due process, we're adding hearings where we can talk about the valuation. Fair market value is not a good choice.

So we've redefined it to tax sale value because we're the sellers of last resort. If you want fair market value, you can go and put something up and sell it yourself. So coming to us through this, that really establishes a very good process where there's a back and forth between an owner and the tax collector.

And then if all else fails, it can go through the court process. But we're adding due process hearings. I think it's a really important step. And then you have the California Association of Treasury Tax Collectors and Howard Jarvis on the same page with the taxpayer bill. So that means we did something right.

So I appreciate everyone's support on this. Thank you.

Well, I think Senator Rogers and Mr. Hunt and either you want to get everybody happy or everybody mad. And that way, you know, it works. And so I appreciate that. Now, are there any witnesses in support? Okay, don't rush. You'll get. You'll get a chance.

Good morning again. Karen Lang on behalf of the Merced County Board of Supervisors in the city and County of San Francisco, in support.

Good morning. Emma Jungwirth on behalf of the California State Association of Counties in support. Thank you.

Andrew Dawson, the California Housing Partnership in support.

Jeff Neal for the County of Lake also in support.

Jane Harris on behalf of the urban counties of California and the Rural County Representatives of California in support.

I thank the witnesses in support. Are there any witnesses in opposition? Seeing none. I will ask the Committee Members for comments. You recognize.

I just wanted to be on the record that you had me at Howard Jarvis, so.

Okay, I thank you. I want to thank you again for stepping up and for presenting this for Assembly Member Wilson. This is a difficult issue and I see that there's been some iterations, including the taxpayer, the tax collectors in the process will probably be what it needs to make it work bright. So I appreciate that.

Chapter 8 Sales are important tools for counties, but we need to ensure that the tax sales process is a fair process and transparent for property owners. The Bill strikes seems to strike that balance. I'll be supporting the Bill today. Assembly Member, would you like to close?

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't want to threaten you all with a good time, but if you don't go up, Assembly Member Wilson is never letting me present one of her bills again. So with that, I ask for an item.

Okay. That's a pretty serious threat. Do I hear a motion?

Yes.

Bill is moved. Secretary Please call the roll.

Motion is due passed to the Committee on Judiciary. [roll call]

4-0. The Bill is on call. Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Assembly Member Conley, you have a Bill to present. Please come forward and make a good case for it.

Good morning, Mr. Chair, Members. Pleasure to be here to present AB258, which will increase the amount of funding for the California Fairs network in the Governor's annual budget to 2% of the gross receipts of taxable sales made on fairgrounds. Historically, fairgrounds have relied on funding from horse racing fees.

In 2009, the Legislature eliminated license fees for horse racing and instead provided an annual continuous appropriation of $32 million from the General Fund to support fairs. Then in the 2011-2012 state budget, that appropriation was eliminated to create a more stable funding source for fairgrounds.

The Legislature then passed AB 1499 in 202017 which required three quarters of 1% of gross receipts from fairgrounds to be included in the Governor's annual budget for fairs subject to legislative appropriation. Originally, AB 1499 was anticipated to get funding for fairs back to that $32 million level anticipated in 2011. Unfortunately, it provides significantly less.

This year's budget includes an allocation of $4.7 million to split among the more than 70 fairs in the state. This is no longer sufficient to cover the growing needs of the fairs network as they face increased pressure, as we all know, to serve their communities in alternative capacities such as emergency response.

California fairgrounds have been called into action more than 300 times in the last 10 years. As COVID 19 medical sites, staging for emergency equipment and for personnel and fire evacuations to help those displaced by wildfires and other natural disasters.

On average, 28 fairs are called into service every year to address emergency situations, including the most recent in Los Angeles due to the fires.

In order for our fairgrounds to continue serving their communities and providing an important service to the state and to meet the original objectives of that original AB 1499, the change proposed in AB 258 is absolutely necessary. It will simply provide funding closer to the 32 million once guaranteed to the network affairs.

Importantly, the Legislature will still have final determination on whether that amount gets included in the state budget. I want to conclude by thanking California Treasurer Fiona Ma for co sponsoring AB250. And with me to testify in support is Norm Town on behalf of the Western Affairs Association.

Mr. Chair Members, this is Norm Town speaking on behalf of Western Affairs Association and its California Member fairs in support of this bill and thanking Assemblymember Conley for moving the measure forward.

There's in 2023, the Department of Food and Agriculture estimated there was a 250 million DOL backlog of deferred maintenance, fire life and safety and other infrastructure problems at the California Fairgrounds. This will be the first step in trying to clean up some of that backlog.

And we respectfully ask for your aye vote and if you have any questions, I'll be happy to try to answer them. Thank you.

I think the witness. I think Mr. Connolly and the witness Normantown for your presentation. Are there any witnesses, any other witnesses in support?

Good morning. Cody Boyles, on behalf of the California Affairs Alliance. In support.

Durazo Manning, on behalf of California State Treasurer Fiona Ma Power co sponsor.

Morning Chair, Members. Peter Ansel, California Farm Bureau and support.

Mr. Chair, Members. Joe Devine, with Platinum Advisors here on behalf of the Serve Association in strong support.

Are there any witnesses in opposition? Please come forward. Seeing none. I will ask Committee Members for comments or questions? You are recognized.

Thank you. Mr. Chair. I do have a question, by the way. I want to state I'm very supportive of the bill. Thank you very much for bringing it forward. We need our fairs, our county affairs. When a county fair is called or the fairgrounds and facilities are called upon. In the middle of an emergency or.

Crisis, do they not get reimbursed or do they not qualify for any kind of payment for the use of the grounds and facilities from whether it be FEMA or whether it be from state emergency services?

Well, for the state emergency service, we seldom get any compensation at all. Occasionally there would be some compensation, I think with FEMA, but. But it hasn't ever lived up to what we needed to actually perform the service. Right.

Okay.

Well, we view it as an obligation to the state for sure to help with emergency services. And so we do that.

Sure. But a person's worthy of their hire. So I mean, you're providing a means of service. Other people are getting compensated for what they're providing. And I believe that should be above. And beyond what your Bill is calling for. But when a fairground steps up to. Help a community and they provide those kind of services.

I just thank you for clarifying that. The state's not reimbursing or providing compensation. And FEMA doesn't really come through as well. So I'm supportive of the Bill. I'll move it when it's appropriate.

Any other comments?

Seeing none. I want to thank the Senator McConnelly for your presentation and Witness Normantown for your comments. I have two county fairs in my district, and they're very active in supporting the communities and have been very, very good staging grounds for emergency services. I've seen it with my own eyes that I've been to visit. It's important.

Not only that, but the agriculture fairs do provide a cultural basis for the community. So they're very. Not only emergency services, but very culturally attuned to. I commend you for authoring the Bill, and I am proud to support it. Would you like to close?

Thank you. Appreciate it. And at the appropriate time, would respectfully ask for an aye vote.

Well, this is the appropriate time.

Okay, great. Not sure if you have a quorum.

Would the secretary call a roll?

Motion is do pass to the Committee on appropriations. [Roll Call]

The vote is 4-0. The bill is on call. And now we'll move to the vote on the consent calendar. Will the secretary call the roll?

This is file items 5 through 9. Motion is to adopt the consent calendar.

[roll call]

The vote is 4-0. Consent calendar is on calls.

The time is to lift calls. Item number one, AB 27. Please call the roll file.

Item number one, AB 27 by Assemblymember Schiavo. Motion is do pass to the Committee on Rules. Current vote is 3-0. Chair and Vice Chair voting I.

[roll call]

The vote is now 4-0. The bill is on call. And item number three, AB 330 Rogers.

This is file item number three, AB 330, by Assemblymember Rogers. Motion is do passed to the Committee on Appropriations. Current vote is 2 to 0. Chair voting I. Vice Chair, not voting.

[roll call]

The vote is now 3-0. The bill is on call. Now, we're going to take a brief recess so we can finish off the voting.

The committee will resume in 30 seconds. The committee is now in order, and we will now call the roll on the bills that were on call. Will the secretary please call a roll?

This is file item number one, AB 27 by Assemblymember Schiavo. Motion is do pass the Committee on Rules. Current vote is 4-0. Chair and Vice Chair voting I.

[roll call]

The vote is 5-0. The bill is out.

This is file item number two, AB 258 by Assembly Member Connolly. Motion is do pass the Committee on Appropriations. Current vote is 4-0. Chair and Vice Chair voting I.

[roll call]

The vote is 5-0. The bill is out.

This is file item number three, AB 330 by Assemblymember Rogers. Motion is do passed to the Committee on Appropriations. Current vote is three to zero. Chair voting I. Vice Chair not voting.

[roll call]

The vote is 4-0. The bill is out.

This is file item number four, AB 418 by Assemblymember Wilson. Motion is do passed to the Committee on Judiciary. Current vote 4-0. Chair and Vice Chair voting I.

[roll call]

The vote is 5-0. The bill is out.

This is the consent calendar. This is items 5 through 9 on our agenda. Current vote, 4-0. Chair and Vice Chair voting I. Motion is to adopt the consent calendar. Senator Umber. Umberg I. 5-0.

It was 5-0? Consent calendar is adopted. With that, we will now adjourn.