Senate Standing Committee on Local Government
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Come to order. Good morning. Thank you for joining us. The Senate welcomes the public in person. We're holding Committee meetings here in the capitol building. I ask all Members of the Committee to be present in room 113 so we can establish the quorum. We're not there yet, so we will proceed as a Subcommitee.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
We have 19 bills on today's agenda, three of which are on consent. File item number six, AB457, file item number 10, AB532, and file item number 19, AB15 29, file item five, AB356, and file item 17, AB12 94, were pulled from today's hearing at the request of the authors. So we're ready to go.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
As I said, we will proceed as a Subcommitee and we'll have our first author, Assembly Member Alvarez, please. Welcome. Good morning. Okay. Whenever you're ready.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you. Madam Chair and committee members, thank you for the opportunity to present Assembly Bill 76 before you here today. I want to start by thanking you and your staff: Madam Chair, Jonathan Peterson; really a lot of support. Appreciate collaboration on this issue.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
It's really important because this is a matter that we're trying to solve for a problem that unfortunately, the Surplus Lands Act created for what one of my local governments. The largest city that I represent fully, which is the City of Chula Vista, excuse me, has been working on an issue for well over 30 years.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And so, this is really important. So, I appreciate all of the dedication and support. So, as I said, over 30 years ago, the City of Chula Vista began the process of bringing a university to the communities that I represent.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And since then, it has procured 383 acres of land and codified these efforts through its sectional planning area plan. Their document, which outlines the creation of the University Innovation District. Developing a University in Chula Vista will go a long way in addressing some of the lack of access and education in our region.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And it's certainly a topic you will likely hear from me over my tenure here in the legislature, as this is definitely our number one priority.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
The university presence in South County would be a key player within the regional economy, producing graduates who occupy regional jobs, employ thousands of workers, and all the other contributions that universities and institutions make to communities. Chula Vista is the largest city in California with over 275,000 residents without a university offering bachelor's degree programs.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
South Bay communities of San Diego County are home to over half a million people whose educational attainment is necessary to sustain our regional growth and for our future workforce needs.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So, in 2022, a couple years ago, I came before this committee because I had Assembly Bill 837 which ensured that the City of Chula Vista had an exemption to the Surplus Lands Act so they can proceed with their plans of the University Innovation District.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
The bill mandated that the piece of land would only be used for the specific purpose, along with requiring that a significant amount of housing in that development, including affordable housing, were part of the project.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
This bill clarifies that the affordable housing requirement does not extend to the units designated specifically for students or for faculty or staff university employees due to the restrictions unfortunately imposed by federal regulations.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
More importantly, AB 76 does not reduce the total number of housing expected to be built but enables the city to better align housing development with its university plans. In fact, Chula Vista is very proud, as you'll hear from their city manager in a moment, of actually building a lot, a lot of housing for our region.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
This legislative adjustment is essential to support Chula Vista's efforts and our San Diego County community's effort of establishing a four-year University to the South Bay while simultaneously addressing our housing needs of the university community. So, thank you very much for allowing us to present.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
I'd like to turn it over to our witnesses from the City of Chula Vista.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Good morning. Good morning. Welcome and you have a two minutes each.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
Thank you. Good morning, Chair Durazo and committee members. My name is Maria Kachadoorian, and I am the City Manager for the City of Chula Vista and I'm here today to urge your support for AB 76 which will allow the city to continue implementing its 30-year vision of developing a binational multi-institutional University Innovation District.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
Chula Vista is the second largest city in the County of San Diego with a population of 280,000 residents and growing city has many hard-earned accolades among them being a leader in providing diverse quality housing options.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
In fact, we have so much housing that has created a job to housing imbalance that leads to over 80% of our population leaving the city every day to commute to job centers in Northern San Diego County. Building economic sustainability is a priority for the city.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
For this reason, from 2001 to 2014, the city negotiated with various developers to assemble and acquire 383 acres of land through a combination of land offer agreements, land exchanges, and agreements with developers for the University Innovation District.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
In 2018, the University Innovation District Sectional Planning Area Plan and Environmental Impact Report were adopted which completed entitlements for city owned sites. In 2022, we sought to secure a legislative exemption to the Surplus Land Act to protect land the city does not consider surplus and continue working with the development and university partners.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
We are here today seeking to clarify the requirements of the exemption after it was determined in language does not reflect the entitlements or agreed upon affordable housing requirements.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
The language before you affirms the city's intent to develop the UID in a manner consistent with the existing land use entitlements for the project and ensure production of affordable housing.
- Maria Kachadoorian
Person
AB 76 allows the city to continue its vision and continue with the momentum that we have in order to achieve our 30-year vision to bring this much, much needed resource to Chula Vista and the entire San Diego County region. For these reasons, I urge you to vote yes on AB 76. Thank you very much.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Good morning, Chair and members of the committee. I'm here to respond to any questions you may have.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay. Okay. Do we have anyone else in support of AB 76? No, seein none. Do I have anybody in opposition to AB 76? No, seeing none. Okay, we'll bring it to the dice. Any comments or questions? Senator Seyarto?
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I'll be supporting your bill today because I am supporting the concept of us kind of looking at some of these obstacles to our communities being able to develop the communities they want, even when they are complying with the, you know, the RHNA numbers and things like that and trying desperately to add the housing that they want.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
But there are some areas in communities that need to be just carved out because even when you're not carving, if they're not carved out, what happens is HCD rolls in, and they start making a bunch of requirements. And some of those requirements are not even in law. They're just using the thing for leverage.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
This young lady's nodding her head because she knows I'm right. And we're having the same issue up in a couple of my communities. And what's playing out here is playing out in a bunch of different communities.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And so what I would implore you, as I support your efforts to do this, is that we look at this on a bigger scale so that we don't have to do this process every single time a civic center needs to be preserved or an area where a university square needs to be developed.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Some important aspect of a community that's not a house or is not affordable homes can be developed to support those exact things. Does us no good to move people out into affordable homes and not have jobs for them. And you can't have jobs.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
If you don't have the buildings or the energy and the synergy with all of these different groups to be able to produce good paying jobs, decent paying jobs.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
If they're going to commute, then that's what's going to happen is they're going to stay there forever because they won't ever be able to climb out of what they're doing now.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And so, you know, I'm right there with you on these type of issues and happy to be supporting your bill but also would implore you to work with the rest of your colleagues to try to address this for everyone.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And not just Chula Vista, but all the other communities that are doing exactly the same thing, have to find somebody to carry a bill to exempt their little slice of the pie. Shouldn't be that way.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you, Senator. You're right. It shouldn't take legislation. I think there's some learned lessons. And as far as you know, I have to acknowledge the work done before my time and involvement with this. The leaders of Chula Vista who envisioned this and then the Surplus Land Act came to be after that.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And this is why we're doing that. So certainly, acknowledge that, and I forgot to also acknowledge, Madam Chair, we are accepting the amendments and thank you for the support in figuring out what the right amendment would be again to allow this project to move forward. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Perfect. That's what I was going to ask you. Okay. Seeing no more comments or questions, no more members. Then, we'll proceed and, when they put appropriate time, we'll have a motion introduced. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Good luck. All right. Assemblymember Alvarez, AB 610.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, thank you for allowing us to present the bill again, accepting the committee amendments. And thank you, the consultants, for their work on this and helping us get to a place that would make sense for the committee.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Assembly Bill 610 strengthens compliance with housing element laws by mandating that through an analysis of governmental constraints, and requiring transparency in communicating those regulations to the Department of Housing and Community Development, HCD.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
The bill is part of the fast-track housing bill package, an initiative to address California's housing crisis that we've heard come before this committee and have voted on some already. California is in the middle of a deep housing crisis. I don't need to get into those specific specifics. You've heard them.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
But any given night in 2024, over 85,000 Californians experience homelessness. The root really is the crises within the massive shortage of affordable rental housing, with nearly 2 million extremely and very low-income households competing for only 750,000 units that are available in the entire State of California.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So while the state needs 1.3 million more affordable homes to come close to this gap, current production is not really there. It's too slow, and it's not happening quickly enough. One barrier to housing often becomes the uncertainty that is created by some of the local government decisions on adding new constraints to housing production.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Things like new fees and zoning restrictions, or added procedural burdens that make it harder to build affordable homes. That is where AB610 comes in.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
The bill requires our local governments to more transparently disclose any proposed regulations that they anticipate in adopting during the first three years of their planning period, that they submit once and deem in compliance by HCD. By fostering transparency and accountability, AB610 aims to create a more effective framework for meeting the housing needs statewide.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Trying to create again a little bit more acknowledgement of the importance of certainty over the course of time. And that's what this bill is about. To provide testimony, I'd like to turn it over. First to Vanessa Chavez.
- Vanessa Chavez
Person
Vanessa Chavez with the California Building Industry Association here as a proud co-sponsor of AB610. First, I want to thank the committee for their hard work on this bill and thoughtful analysis.
- Vanessa Chavez
Person
Second, just want to highlight that the bill's premise seeks to ensure that there is further transparency in the housing element process. One, a great deal of resources go to cities submitting a compliant housing element. Two, therefore, we believe that an accurate assessment of what constraints will be modified or amended provide greater clarity for housing providers and developers.
- Vanessa Chavez
Person
And three, we must ensure that if there are measures that are being proposed but have yet to go into effect, those are enumerated, and more specifically,y that they are disclosed in the housing element.
- Vanessa Chavez
Person
AB610, as proposed to be amended, will ensure that there is more transparency for home builders of all sizes, especially those with limited resources, to understand what costs are associated with their projects. For these reasons, we ask for your aye vote and thank. Thank you.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
Good morning, Chair and committee members. My name is Ali Sapirman, advocacy and policy manager for the Housing Action Coalition, or HACC for short. HACC is a member-supported statewide organization that advocates for building more infill homes at all levels of affordability.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
We are a proud sponsor of AB610, a critical piece of the fast-track housing package that addresses a fundamental issue, the need for transparency and predictability in local housing planning.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
Once a jurisdiction's housing element is certified by HCD, it should be focused on one, completing required rezonings within the three-year statutory window, two, implementing housing programs they committed to, and three, removing existing barriers to housing that were identified in their housing element.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
AB610 affirms stat principle and clarifies that if a city plans to adopt new or more stringent development constraints like fees or procedural hurdles, they must disclose them up front during the housing element process. As you know, the housing element is only a part of a city's general plan that must be certified by the state.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
That's because the state takes housing seriously, and so do we. Public dollars and private stakeholders public and private stakeholders spend years and millions of dollars working through the arena and housing element process to create meaningful housing strategies. But for this process to work, local governments must participate in good faith.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
That means disclosing all known potential barriers to housing and not waiting until after a housing element is certified to introduce new constraints. To be clear, this bill does not stop cities from adopting new policies. But when they wait until after housing element certification to do so, it introduces confusion and risk that can stall urgently needed housing.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
Here are just a few real examples of what we've seen. In the first example, a city received its housing element certification in December of 2023. Less than a year later, they adopted a new public art fee on housing projects up to one percent of total project value. This exaction was never disclosed to HCD during the housing element review.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
A second example of this problem was where a city went through three rounds of review with HCD but failed to mention plans to restrict the state density bonus by limiting the ability of developers to waive underground utility requirements, even though their housing elements said otherwise.
- Ali Sapirman
Person
These kinds of post-certification changes violate the spirit and arguably the letter of the housing law. They create uncertainty for housing providers and ultimately delay or deter housing that communities desperately need. This bill is not about penalties. It's about giving builders and local governments clarity and consistency. They need to move forward with housing.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you very much else here in support of AB610. Please come identify yourselves.
- Jacob Brent
Person
Good morning. Jacob Brent with the California Retailers Association in support.
- Robert Naylor
Person
Madam Chair. Bob Naylor for Fieldstead and Company. That's Howard Amundsen Jr., an Orange County philanthropist. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Anyone else in support? Is there anyone here in opposition to AB610? No one? Oh, what? Got it. Okay.
- Lauren De Valencia Y Sanchez
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair and members. Lauren de Valencia, representing the American Planning Association. We did have an opposing, less amended position, but understand there are forthcoming amendments and would like to really thank the committee and the author's office for those. We're going to take a look at those, and hopefully we'll be able to consider removing opposition once we've had chance to review. Thank you.
- Claire Sullivan
Person
Thank you. Good morning. Tracy Ryan, Rural County Representatives of California also looking forward to reviewing the amendments and hope they get to a place of neutral. Thanks. Thank you.
- Claire Sullivan
Person
Good morning. Claire Sullivan, on behalf of the City of Carlsbad, in respectful opposition. Looking forward to reviewing the amendments, though. Thank you.
- Tracy Rhine
Person
Good morning. Tracy Rhine, Rural County Representatives of California also looking forward to reviewing the amendments and hope they get to a place of neutral. Thanks.
- Mark Neuburger
Person
Good morning. Mark Neuburger, California State Association Counties. Also providing comments on behalf of the League of California Cities, I want to thank the author's office and the committee for their work on this bill. We will also be reviewing the amendments to see if we can modify our position.
- Chris Lee
Person
Chris Lee, on behalf of the Urban Counties of California, want to align our comments with the American Planning Association. Thank you.
- Anya Lawler
Person
Anya Lawler, on behalf of the California Rural Legal Assistance Foundation and the Public Interest Law Project, really appreciate all the work of the author and the Committee on the bill, and we're pleased to remove our opposition. Thank you.
- Andrew Antwih
Person
Madam Chair and members. Andrew Antwih, on behalf of the City of Beverly Hills, we look forward to reviewing the amendments being discussed today. But currently, the City of Beverly Hills has an opposed position.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Okay. Questions? Comments? Yes, Senator Arreguin.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I want to thank the author for the continued work on this bill. I did not vote for this bill when it was in the Senate Housing Committee for the concern I had about.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I did express this to the bill sponsors about making it more difficult for governments to adopt fees or other policies that could be perceived as constraints. I'll just point out in my jurisdiction, we adopted a labor standard that I would argue is not a land use policy, but was perceived as a governmental constraint.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I appreciate you sort of taking out any reference to, you know, prohibiting the local governments from adopting or amending constraints to have this be about sort of reporting about constraints that have been adopted or will be adopted. So with that, I will be supporting your bill today. I'm happy to make the motion.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay, thank you. Appropriate time. Senator Seyarto? None. Okay, I think we're good. You accepted the amendments. Okay. Any closing remarks?
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you very much for being here. And we'll take up the motion when we have enough people. AB652.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you Madam Chair. I promise you'll see other authors in a second here. Appreciate the opportunity to present Assembly Bill 652 which seeks to address operational efficiencies, inefficiencies, I should say, within the San Diego County Air Pollution Control District.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
The legislative initiative would permit each appointing authority to designate an alternate, which they cannot do today, who can serve, vote and receive compensation in the absence of the or disqualification of the regularly appointed member.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
By adopting this measure, it will ensure that the continuity of decision making process maintaining a rigorous qualifications for alternates which are the same as the members themselves. The approach is designed to uphold the necessary expertise and accountability required to tackle the pressing air quality challenges that face our region.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
This bill is important because of the inability to appoint alternate members has created significant challenges for the Air Pollution Control District which disrupts its capacity to respond promptly to urgent air quality issues and meet to address these concerns.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
One major concern is the inability to meet quorum due to member absences caused by conflicts, illnesses or recusals which can stall the votes on permits, regulations and enforcement actions.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
The absence of public members such as specialists and advocates for environmental justice risks underrepresentation which hampers the progress on issues that disproportionately impact communities that are suffering the most from air quality issues. Thus, delays in governance that threaten SDAPCD's ability to fulfill its duty of safeguarding public health and aligning with state climate objectives.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So this is a straightforward and effective solution to these challenges by allowing each appointing authority, such as the City Council or the County Board of Supervisors to designate their equally qualified alternates. This provision ensures that no vacancies disrupt the board proceedings, allowing alternates to step in as needed and up.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
In support of this I we've requested permission from my office legislative aide Navrine to read a witness letter on behalf of the Air Pollution Control District. Madam Chair to have permission to read.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Good morning Madam Chair and Members. The San Diego Air Pollution Control District would like to express its appreciation to Assemblymember David Alvarez for introducing each Assembly Bill 652 and including provisions to clarify our govern governance structure.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
SDPCD supports AB 652 including the committee amendment to randomly select the super visceral and public members that will serve two year terms in the staggered term provision of this bill. This provision, along with others in AB 652 helps address challenges we have encountered and provide solutions to effectively resolve them. We urge you to support AB 652 with the aforementioned amendments today. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Okay, do we have anybody else in support of AB 652? Please come forward.
- Moira C. Topp
Person
Thank you. Chair, Members, Moira Topp, on behalf of the City of San Diego, in support.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Anyone else in support? Seeing none. Anyone in opposition to AB 652? Seeing none. Members, any questions or comments? No. Seeing none. That's it. Thank you very.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Sorry. Yeah, we are accepting amendments again. Thank you for that. And I would just note you probably have all received all of the opposition that we know of has been removed as a result of amendments. So I appreciate an aye vote thank you. At the appropriate time.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay, thank you all very much. All right. Ms. Papin? Assemblymember Papin. She's not here. I know there's nobody else is here. Well, Ms. Assemblymember, I think you're very lucky nobody else is here. So sorry. So you can come up lucky. You get to jump all those.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
All the others. I was in Senate Judiciary for a very long time yesterday, but. Good morning, Chair Durazo. Senators, thank you for allowing me to present today.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
I'm here to present AB 654, which addresses a gap in our homelessness programs in LA County by establishing a dedicated telephone system to provide direct assistance to individuals experiencing or at risk of homelessness. As many of you know, LA County is the epicenter of our homelessness crisis in California.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
And in the most recent homelessness count, we made great progress. Homelessness showed progress of some of those numbers going down. It's as a result of making sure that our unhoused get access to services directly and get access to things like permanent supportive housing.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
But still, we're still the epicenter and we still have a lot of work to do. And so there's a desperate need for a centralized system that is solely dedicated to helping our most vulnerable. Existing systems are still valuable resources, but they are looped in with things like tree trimming, trash pickup, sidewalk repairs.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
And unfortunately, our current systems aren't working because they are overwhelmed with the number of calls and are handling over 100 different services. But we don't have a single number in LA County that's solely dedicated to homelessness. And that's what we really need. When someone is unhoused and needs help, their call shouldn't compete with non urgent service requests.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
They need an immediate response and not to be placed in a general queue or to be on hold for hours. AB 654 authorizes LA County to create a dedicated response line managed by a direct service provider and connect those experiencing homelessness with those essential services.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
Supervisor Hilda Solis also supports AB 654 and there's a lot of ongoing work that's happening now in LA County, including the creation of their new Homelessness Department. With me here today to testify is one of my constituents who flew in this morning and somebody who's been a longtime advocate in the homelessness space is Brian Cohan. Thank you.
- Brian Cohan
Person
Good morning. Thank you. Chair Durazo and Members of the Committee. As Assemblymember Caloza said, I'm here to speak for AB 654 as a homeless advocate and constituent of Senate District 26. For the past seven years I have been running weekly drop in programs and doing volunteer street outreach with a group of neighbors.
- Brian Cohan
Person
We started a small mutual aid organization and now have three staff supporting over 600 active volunteers. Like me, our volunteers are on the front lines of homelessness crisis in Los Angeles. For example, we've rescued three month old babies in tents, grounded people desperately clinging to reality and been the first to find deceased Angelenos.
- Brian Cohan
Person
We frequently engage 211 in the course of our work. For regular Angelenos, 211 is the way to access shelter resources. It is the most common reason we call. But despite average county wide interim housing vacancy rates around 20% calls rarely result in a bed for a person in crisis hold.
- Brian Cohan
Person
Times that often stress past an hour are too long and when you get through you're usually given stale information or another list of numbers to call. I personally was on hold for 5 hours and 14 minutes during a weather event trying to secure a bed for an elderly couple just out of the hospital.
- Brian Cohan
Person
When we found that three month old baby and her autistic mother, we called 211 which should have been able to provide a motel for the weekend. The call proved too difficult for her to navigate, so we put them up in a motel ourselves and leveraged personal connections with professional service providers to get them help.
- Brian Cohan
Person
The underlying scarcity of housing and shelter is our largest problem. But 211 is overwhelmed and Los Angeles infrequently fails to deliver achieved results. There is no ethical way to deliver a scarce resource, so we have a duty to be as efficient and standardized as possible.
- Brian Cohan
Person
I think augmenting 211 with a dedicated homeless service line is a necessary step in that direction. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you very much. Do we have anybody else in support of AB 654? Seeing none do we have anyone in opposition to AB 654 seeing none. Members, questions or comments? Senator Seyarto.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Hi, so on this, are you suggesting that we should have a different 11 type of number or a whole full number number? What is it? Because we got 911, 411, 211. What's the goal?
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I know what the goal is, but what is, is it going to be delivered by another one of those type of numbers?
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
So currently the telephone systems that exist in many cities and counties are those three digit numbers that you mentioned, like 911 and 211. But as it stands, we don't have a dedicated number to homelessness. And when you look at the data, that is the majority of the types of crises that we are responding to.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
And so this creates a centralized system that's managed directly by a service provider instead of being a referral agency that gives you a number to go to a direct service provider.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Right, I get that because the 211 system, the problem with the 211 system is overwhelmed because it's underfunded and it needs to work better. And this is an example of where it doesn't work and where it fails. And my concern is when we add another line, yet another line, we create confusion.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Nobody knows what to call, so they call everything but and eventually get to where they want. But who's to say the same thing that's making 211 fail now isn't going to fail, then the new system won't fail because of underinvestment.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
See, a lot of these issues are we could probably fix them, but we have to, from the legislature down, appropriate the right money to be able to make it work the way it needs to work.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Because the whole idea was a centralized 211 system was if you have any kind of trouble whatsoever, that's not an e1mergency, you dial 211 because it was happening. Everybody for all those things you were talking about was dialing 911. So you know, that's. I kind of struggle with this a little bit, adding another layer.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And when I think we need to fix the system, we have to be able to accommodate this. What you're trying your goal in an appropriate way without just creating another system that needs fixed again. So yeah, we'll consider that when we're voting.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Can you hold on just one second? Assemblymember, Excuse me. We have sufficient members here to establish quorum. Do you want to
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
Thank you Chair. Thank you Senator Seyarto and thanks for your concerns. I think the fundamental difference between, you know, AB 654 and the existing service is that this would be a number that's solely dedicated to homelessness. And 211 is a great service.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
Let me be clear, it does need to be funded because they are understaffed and under a lot of stress. But, you know, to have them handle everything from homelessness to tree trimming to trash pickup, in addition to over 100 other services, is a lot for one number to handle.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
And so, given the gravity of this crisis in LA County specifically, we do need a dedicated number. And at the same time, there's also a lot of changes and reforms happening in LA County as it relates to homelessness. So the time is now to push something like this forward. And I don't know if you wanted to add anything.
- Brian Cohan
Person
Yeah, I would just add that there's no reason that 211 couldn't route to this new service. Like, I agree that confusion is something we want to avoid so most people are still going to call 211 and hopefully this would just be able to route them to something that doesn't take five hours to answer your call.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Yeah, I just - do you have? No, I'll do it afterwards. Go ahead, Senator Arreguin.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I support this bill when it came to our Senate Human Services Committee. I'm happy to support this bill again and make the motion at the appropriate time. I agree with Senator Seyarto to that 211 is under resourced. That's something that we should address as policymakers.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
But given the scale of the homelessness crisis in LA County, I see this not competing with 211 but building off of what 211 does.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And just during the fires, 211 was overburdened and having additional number, additional resource to connect people to services and shelter and permanent housing I think will help the city better improve its response to homelessness. I just want to note, I think it was recently announced that LA is making progress in reducing homelessness.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I think that this is an additional tool that can help continue that important work. Some cities have homeless response teams. My city created, we created a homeless response team when I was mayor.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I know that San Francisco has specific homeless response teams that have separate numbers for you to call so that those teams can do outreach and provide services. And I see this as another tool that can better help the State of California address the crisis of homelessness.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
I will of course, wholeheartedly support and I want to thank you, Brian. Thank you very much for doing what you do, your volunteerism, getting the community involved to help. Obviously, you now have developed an expertise to be able to support efforts like this, things that make sense, things that will make a difference.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
And I agree this is a moment when the focus has to be laser on homelessness. We're making some progress, and we really need to keep that, keep a focus.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
To put someone who answers that 211 call, the difference between picking up a mattress that's been abandoned and or responding to someone who's ready, really wants the help and is ready to take that help. That's what we always talk about, right? Are they ready?
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Are they in a position to want and ask for the help? When they ask for it, we've got to be immediately response. So, thank you very much for moving this and thank you for your work in my district as well, for all that you do for our community. And with that, we will close, closing remarks.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
Thank you so much, Chairwoman, senators, thank you; Chair Arreguin, for your support in your committee. You know, I just respectfully ask for your aye vote and help us make progress in LA County on homelessness and make sure that we help every single person because I know we can, and we will during our lifetime make a dent in making sure we get as many people off the street. Thank you.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do pass to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll Call].
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Bill is on call. Thank you very much. Okay, so go back to Soria. Okay. What's that? Oh, yeah. Assemblymember, please come forward. Yeah. We'll now hear from Assemblymember Soria, AB 1441.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
Thank you. Madam Chair and members. AB 1441 is a district bill that establishes an independent redistricting commission in the County of Merced to improve participation and transparency in their redistricting process.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
Since the establishment of California Statewide Citizens Redistricting Commission in 2008 by Proposition 11, California has taken numerous steps to put the responsibility for drawing California's electoral districts in the hands of its citizens at every level of government.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
What has previously been a closed-door process in many parts of the state has been opened up to interested citizens who want to see the unique composition of their communities reflected in the districts used in their elections.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
Over the last two decades, many have followed to follow the lead set by Prop 11 and sought the establishment of Citizens Redistricting Commissions for their cities and counties. Legislation has brought the benefits of Citizens Redistricting Commissions to eight counties in the state.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
Urban counties like Los Angeles and San Diego and is bringing those same benefits to rural counties like Fresno and San Luis Obispo. It is time for Merced to join these counties. The people of Merced want an opportunity to participate in a transparent process where they have a seat at the table.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
To ensure the engagement of its diverse citizens, AB 1441 would establish a Citizens Redistricting Commission in the County of Merced in the time for the completion of the next census and redrawing of district lines in 2030. Here with me to testify in support of AB 1441 is Anna Lisa Vargas to speak on behalf of Communities for New California.
- Anna Lisa Vargas
Person
Good morning, Chair Durazo, Vice Chair Choi and fellow members. My name is Analisa Vargas, and I live in District 2 of Merced County in the City of Merced with my young daughter. I'm a Community Organizer with Communities for a New California, a local community-based organization.
- Anna Lisa Vargas
Person
And CNC Action Fund is a statewide organization that endeavors to achieve public policy that is socially, economically and environmentally just for California families. We engage, listen to, and mobilize voters who have been historically been left out of public policy decisions impacting their families, loved ones, and neighborhoods.
- Anna Lisa Vargas
Person
During the 2021 redistricting process in California, CNC Action Fund led various efforts to ensure the redistricting process for municipalities and political subdivisions was fair and inclusive. On behalf of communities for New California Action Fund, we are proud to sponsor Assembly Bill 1441 because it directs the County of Merced to establish an independent Citizens Redistricting Commission.
- Anna Lisa Vargas
Person
This will ensure that districts are fairly drawn by taking into account demographics and communities of interest. Simply put, we believe voters should choose their elected officials. Elected officials should not choose their voters.
- Anna Lisa Vargas
Person
Over the last several decades, Californians have been shifting redistricting responsibility away from elected officials and into the hands of independent citizens to ensure a fair process. AB 1441 essentially will continue past efforts to improve representation and engagement in local elections.
- Anna Lisa Vargas
Person
This is a major step in ensuring that the county's residents live in districts created in a fair and impartial process that promotes transparency, accountability, and public trust and county government. For these reasons, CNC Action Fund is pleased to sponsor 1441. We hope we can count on your vote to send this bill to the Governor. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Anyone want to in support of AB 1441, please come forward.
- Savannah Jorgensen
Person
Good morning. Savannah Jorgensen with the League of Women Voters of California, in strong support.
- Sam Hood
Person
Sam Hood on behalf of California Common Cause, in support today. Thank you.
- Janice O'Malley
Person
Good morning. Janice O'Malley, AFSCME California, in strong support.
- Ruth Martinez
Person
Ruth Sosa Martinez on behalf of Power CA Action, in strong support.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you very much. Anyone else in support? Seeing none. Anyone in opposition to AB 1441? Good morning.
- John Pedrozo
Person
Good morning. I had a bunch of notes, but I'm not going to speak from them. I'm just going to speak because I'm really tired and frustrated about this. You know, for far too long -
- John Pedrozo
Person
I'm sorry. Josh Pedrozo, Chairman of the Board of Supervisors for Merced County.
- John Pedrozo
Person
For far too long we've been forced with, been forced unfunded mandates from the State of California. And this is just another one. During our last redistricting process, we had six public hearings. Six of them; two virtual, four in public. We went through and we did everything by the law, the letter of the law.
- John Pedrozo
Person
So much so that it wasn't challenged. We were not challenged, whereas counties north of us were challenged. This is something that, you know, really makes me question the priorities of the State of California. 59% of the population of Merced County is under some sort of public assistance, and yet we're not focused on affordable housing.
- John Pedrozo
Person
We're not focused on cuts and to the SNAP program, cuts to Medicaid. I think this is misguided and there's no funds for it. Merced County is not a wealthy county. We cannot afford to do this. And if there's no funds in there right now, it's same as normal.
- John Pedrozo
Person
I've proposed having an independent advisory commission chosen by the board: each Member of the Board of Supervisors has a member of along with four at large members, two chosen by the assemblymember, two chosen by the Senate, as an advisory commission to provide us with input to no avail.
- John Pedrozo
Person
I just think this is misguided, unfunded, and it's not the right time for Merced County.
- Paul Yoder
Person
Madam Chair and members, Paul Yoder, on behalf of the Counties of Fresno, Tulare, we represent Merced, Kings and Fresno, also in opposition to this bill.
- Paul Yoder
Person
And if I may, I don't know what counties are supposed to do when they follow state and federal laws to the T. And they are not only, they're not successfully challenged, they're not even challenged unsuccessfully because they have so complied with state and federal laws. We've got a little bit of perspective.
- Paul Yoder
Person
Our firm also represents a county that was successfully challenged, right, in the last 15 years. When counties don't comply with the letter of state and federal law, they can be challenged, and they can be forced to revisit their redistricting. That's under all current laws. The one-off bills, I just respectfully, they need to stop.
- Paul Yoder
Person
When counties are complying with every single other law that is on the books. Respectfully request you hold this bill.
- Paul Yoder
Person
Especially when you think of this bill, assuming it gets out today, if it's on the floor and it doesn't have million dollars in it, which is what was provided to Fresno County and what was provided to Riverside County.
- Paul Yoder
Person
When the bill gets to the floor, it should not be allowed to advance to the governor's desk unless money is in the bill from Merced County to redistrict. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Anyone else in opposition? No. Seeing none. We'll come to the dais. Questions or comments, anybody? Senator Seyarto.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Hi. The independent - this all sounds great. Independent Redistricting Commissions made up of citizens who get together and look at a map and decide what makes sense. You know what communities have things in common.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I don't know if you've ever seen my district, but the only reason I'm in the Senate is because when they independently redistricted my assembly seat, I had three cities in one county, three cities over the mountains into another.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I had to drive through other cities that I used to represent to get to cities that would be over there. So, I decided I would run for the Senate because it was right plug, my city was right - the one I live in is right in the middle of the district.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Now, the middle of the district is two and a half hours to go from one end to the other. I love my district. It's awesome. The cities that I have are awesome cities, but I know why they're there. They're there so they don't dilute the votes in other communities, like in Orange County or in San Bernardino County.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And it's all about how many seats wind up here. So, if they think gerrymandering is going away with independent redistricting committees, that's not happening. If they think we're grouping cities that have common interests and common issues, that's not happening either. And so, you know, this is going to go to the governor's desk. It'll pass.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
It'll go to the government. He'll sign it. He signed a bunch of other ones. But it's not - it's not doing what it's being portrayed to be; this equal and just way of putting together a district.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I have to drive an hour to an hour and a half to get to some parts of my district, while cities that are not in my district are 15 minutes away. That doesn't make sense. And neither does this. If they want to do it the right way, I'm all for it. But this is not, that's not the goal of this. And I'm a little bit tired of it. And so, I will not be supporting. I don't support any of these anymore. I used to think, "Yeah, that's great. A citizen - " No, it doesn't work out that way.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you. Well, having written the legislation in my community to create an Independent Redistricting Commission. Having said this issue pretty extensively, there are constitutional standards that have to be met. You have to ensure equal proportion. There are certain standards with regard to making sure that certain populations are not diluted. You have to consider communities of interest.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
So those are things that anybody, whether it's the board of supervisors, the legislature or commission, has to implement. And so, I personally think that allowing for Independent Redistricting Commissions taken out of the hands of an elected body, I'm not necessarily suggesting that the Merced County Board of Supervisors - good to see you, we were on CALCOG together - not necessarily saying that you're not doing a good job of doing redistricting, but I think empowering actual residents to be involved in helping draw lines, I think is not only makes it more impartial.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
But and I'll just say the reason we create our redistricting commission is because there was, you know, explicit political decisions that were involved in drawing boundaries.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And so we elected officials inherently have, whether we are, whether we are doing explicitly or not, we inherently have an interest in wanting to draw boundaries, you know, to effectuate our interests as elected officials by giving that to citizens, residents of our community who are not elected, who have expertise to reflect the diversity of our communities.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I think that's a good thing. It will ensure more impartial maps and maps that better reflect the geography and the diversity of the communities that we represent. So, with that, I understand the concern about resources. That's a legitimate issue. If this bill moves to the Senate, happy to, you know, to talk about that, but I think this is an idea that's worthy of consideration. With that, I'll move the bill.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Well, I want to thank the author. Having an independent commission is really important. We've been through a number of problems in LA, in the city, and there was a commission, but it wasn't an independent commission. And so, the kinds of decisions that were being made were essentially being made by those in office.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
I'm just going by what I experienced was those in office were making decisions for themselves. It was not independent, and it needed to be independent. And some of us have fought for it to be independent.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
And I, you know, I know we're going to get there, but that's really important for the trust that the community wants to have in government: to know that decisions aren't going to be based on other things other than independent considerations. So, I agree with my colleague here.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
This is not an accusation to anybody other than everyone should go through this. Everyone should have the independent process, and that's the fairest way, and that's the way to put prove to our communities that there aren't other issues that will drive them to come up with those decisions.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
So, I agree with an independent commission, and I support your bill. So, if you want to make any final remarks.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. I do want to also thank the other Senators for your comments. I, too, actually sat previously on a city council where people, where we have the opportunity to redraw our districts. It was the elected officials that were in charge of drawing the lines.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
And I will tell you what was happening behind closed doors; people were carving in neighborhoods because that's where they wanted to buy homes, and that's exactly what ended up happening in that process. And so, my goal is very simple.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
It is to ensure that we bring more transparency to the process, more accountability and fairness, in turn building the community trust and public trust that is desperately needed, not just in Merced County, but I think in communities across the State of California. And so, I respectfully ask for an aye vote today. Thank you.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you very much. We have a motion. Motion by Senator Arreguin.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do pass to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll Call].
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay. Take over, please. The bill will be on call. Thank you very much. Okay. Oh, he just. Senator, can we have a motion for the consent calendar?
- Committee Secretary
Person
The consent calendar consists of file item 6 AB 457, file item 10 AB 532, file item 19 AB 1529. [Roll Call].
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
The bill is on call. We'll move on to item 4 AB 93, Assembly Member Papan, Good morning. Welcome.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
Delighted to be with you this morning to present AB 493. And I'd like to begin by saying we will accept the committee amendments. You know, as we all know, water is California's most precious resource and data centers are very thirsty.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
AB 93 is a commonsense measure that's all about ensuring data centers operate responsibly, balancing innovation and sustainability all at once. The demand for data centers has skyrocketed with the rise of artificial intelligence and cloud computing. While data centers can bring economic benefits, they also consume immense amounts of water, up to 5 million gallons daily.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
In some cases, that is comparable to a town of 50,000 people. This strain is felt most acutely in water stressed areas where tech companies are drawn by affordable power while often ignoring the water impacts. In a state where water is finite and droughts are becoming more frequent; we must make every drop count.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
So, AB 93 addresses these water concerns by requiring data centers to self-certify their expected and actual water usage when applying for or renewing their business license. This reporting empowers local governments with the information they need to make informed decisions about development and sustainability.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
In recent amendments, I have removed the cost-of-service analysis as well as clarified the definition of data centers for the purposes of the bill. Recognizing our challenging fiscal climate, I've also removed the requirement that the DWR develop best management practices for efficiency in data centers.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
Instead, the amended bill states that if DWR does come along and develop best practices, data centers must self-certify compliance one year after the standards are published.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
These self-certifications of water use in compliance with any future efficiency guidelines are pragmatic, low burden data points that will help California better understand and manage the water impact of this rapidly growing industry. With me to testify today in support is Shaolei Ren. He is a Professor in Electrical and Computer Engineering at UC Riverside.
- Shaolei Ren
Person
Good morning. My name is Shaolei Ren. I'm an Associate Professor at UC Riverside. I'm here in a personal capacity to testify on my research and the technical aspects of data center water consumption. I'm not representing the university or weighing in on the policy itself. Data centers are energy consuming and produce a lot of heat.
- Shaolei Ren
Person
Water evaporation is efficient and commonly used to keep data centers cool. In 2024, the data centers owned by OneTech companies withdrew more than 37 billion liters of water, mostly drinking water, and consumed nearly 30 billion liters through water evaporation. This was equivalent to the water consumption by approximately 4 million people in office buildings per year.
- Shaolei Ren
Person
According to the New York Times, in Newton County, Georgia, water requested by some of the new data centers even exceeds the counting its entire water usage. The Lawrence Berkeley National Lab projects that in 2028 the US data center water consumption will double or even quadruple the 2023 level.
- Shaolei Ren
Person
In light of the urgency of water conservation, there have been several calls for data center water efficiency and transparency, including the US Government Accountability Office's recent congressional report that recommends the collection and reporting of data center water usage information. Several technology companies have begun to report location specific data center water usage information in their sustainability reports.
- Shaolei Ren
Person
Nonetheless, public information about data center water usage in California is extremely limited. As shown by technology companies practices, making the data center water usage information public does not compromise confidentiality or hurt their business competitiveness.
- Shaolei Ren
Person
Instead, this will only increase transparency, help address community concerns, promote water conservation practices, and importantly, help local government and water utilities make informed decisions such as better infrastructure planning and water resource allocation to support technological advancement. Thank you for your time. I'm happy to answer any questions.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you very much. Anyone else in support of AB 93, please come forward. Good morning.
- Julia Hall
Person
Good morning, we are a tweener. I'm Julia Hall with the Association of California Water Agencies Just really wanted to thank the author for working with us so closely on this to address our concerns about the structure of the bill. Really appreciate the forthcoming amendments and just wanted to thank everybody for that. We're officially neutral. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Anyone else in support? Okay. Seeing none. Anyone in opposition to AB 93?
- Timothy Burr
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair. I believe I'm the only one up for three organizations. Timothy Burr, on behalf of the Data Center Coalition, Silicon Valley Leadership Group and TechNet. We really appreciate the Committee's work on this and the analysis, and we'll continue on behalf of those organizations to work with the author and her staff. Appreciate that. So opposed for those three organizations. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay, thank you. Anyone else in opposition? Seeing none. Any questions or comments. Senator Arreguin? No. Seeing none. Okay. Well, you did say that you were accepting the amendments. Okay, thank you very much. Seeing none. I will be supporting your bill. Thank you for all this work. I was feeling guilty about using water in a few plants.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
Well, just Monday, there was an article in the New York Times, and it was really very interesting, and the professor mentioned it in Newton County, and they were really caught off guard. A big metadata center went in, and they're expecting to be out of water by 2030.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
And most of the time, as this committee probably well knows, the increase in water rates are like, you know, 2%, 3%. They're looking at 33% water increases to be able to keep up with just one data center. So, I'm, you know, I come out of local government.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
I'm delighted to be before this committee because I want local governments to be very aware of, you know, seeing what's coming down the tracks. I think we owe it to our residents, and it's a perfect place to do it. So, I respectfully request an aye vote. And I thank the committee for its assistance as well.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do pass as amended to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll Call].
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
The bill's on call. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. Assemblymember Hart, good morning. We will now be hearing from Assemblymember Hart on AB 471.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Good morning, Chair and senators. I want to thank your team for their analysis of the bill, and I will be accepting the committee's amendments today. Last year, the legislature passed, and the governor signed AB 2522, which allowed certain large and medium air districts to increase compensation limits.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
State law, however, is unclear on the authority of other air districts to provide per diem compensation to their board members. As a result, these members aren't receiving compensation for their service. AB 471 addresses this inequity by providing explicit authority to provide per diem compensation for service specified small and medium sized air districts.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
This bill includes transparency provisions, a prohibition on automatic increases and a strict annual cap. Board members across the state work diligently to improve air quality and safeguard public health in our communities. Low compensation levels creates challenges, making it harder for these public servants to balance personal and professional obligations.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
AB 471 aims to reasonably compensate these board members and attract a wider range of elected officials from varied backgrounds. This bill has had bipartisan support and enjoys no opposition.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Speaking in support of the bill is Aeron Arlin Genet, Director and Air Pollution Control Officer for the Santa Barbara County Air Pollution Control District and Brendan Tuig from the California Air Pollution Control Officers Association.
- Aeron Genet
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the committee. My name is Aeron Arlin Genet. I am the Executive Director of Santa Claus Barbara County Air Pollution Control District. I'm also a Board Member of the California Air Pollution Control Officers Association that represents the 35 air districts in the state and the sponsor of the bill today.
- Aeron Genet
Person
I want to thank you for the opportunity to speak before you regarding the need for AB 471. We are asking that you extend the authority of last year's bill, AB 2522, to air district boards that are captured under different state statute and are comprised of county supervisors and city council representatives, either council members or the mayors.
- Aeron Genet
Person
It would give these boards the ability to consider per diem compensation for the work they do to improve air quality and safeguard public health in their communities. In addition to their elected jobs as county supervisors or city council representatives, when serving on air district boards, they serve a broader, highly technical role that must consider air quality issues for the entire county, not for just the jurisdictions that they serve or they were elected to represent. Air district responsibilities are different from those that elected officials may experience in their other roles in Santa Barbara County.
- Aeron Genet
Person
As an example, to effectively serve on my district board, directors must be familiar with federal, state and local rules and regulations, substantial number of complex industrial facilities that we permit air quality attainment strategies, revenue limitations, negotiation aspects with employee unions, and long-range fiscal strategies to ensure the agency operates in a fiscally sound way going forward.
- Aeron Genet
Person
AB 471 addresses the compensation and equity income existing law by providing explicit statutory authority for additional air districts to consider providing limited per diem compensation with no cost to the state. With the per diem compensation in AB 471 being nominal, we believe though, it could help facilitate broader participation and attract a wider range of elected officials who must be - who may be discouraged from serving on air district boards due to fiscal burden.
- Brendan Twohig
Person
Madam Chair and senators, Brendan Tuig on behalf of the California Air Pollution Control Officers Association, that's the air pollution control officers from all 35 local air districts. And as Ms. Arlin Genet mentioned, we are the sponsors of the measure. I think it's been covered as to what the bill does thoroughly.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Is there anyone else in support of AB 471? Please come forward. No. Okay. Is there anyone in opposition to AB 471? No. Seeing none. Senator Arreguin, any questions or comments? Okay. Did you have any? Thank you. And thank you for working with the consultants to make sure we get through some of these issues.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you and thank you for being here as well. Consultant.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Floor. [Roll Call].
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
The bill is on call. Thank you. Okay. Assemblymember Hart, you have bill AB 1108.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
I want to thank your staff again for your analysis and I'll be accepting the committee amendments. I'm pleased to present AB 1108 a bill to ensure independent medical doctors determine the circumstances, cause and manner of death for individuals who die in custody, in counties with combined sheriff coroner offices.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
California is one of only three states in the country to allow sheriffs to simultaneously serve as coroners. In 48 counties across the state, elected sheriffs are tasked with investigating all suspicious and unattended deaths, including deaths that occur in custody while someone is being arrested.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
A 2024 Santa Barbara County Civil Grand Jury Report identified both the real and perceived conflicts of interest that arise from this arrangement. In 2023, two independent physicians consulted by the civil grand jury gave opinions that a specific in custody death should have been classified as a homicide by the sheriff coroner rather than an accident.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
These determinations must be made by independent physicians, not sheriff coroners. This bill will make the board of supervisors responsible for determining which outside medical examiners and pathologists to contract with for this service. Only physicians who do not currently contract with the sheriff will be contracted to prevent a provider client conflict of interest.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
The ongoing assault on California's immigrant community has led me to amend the bill to make it clear that when a death occurs in the course of immigration enforcement or detention, independent medical doctors must conduct the medical investigations, not sheriff coroners. Immigration raids have become increasingly aggressive and violent.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
In the midst of a chaotic mass arrest operation on the Central Coast last week, a farm worker fell to his death from a building. When these medical investigations take place in other border states, like Arizona and Texas, they are completed by independent medical examiners, not sheriffs.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
With this bill in place, independent medical doctors will be responsible for determining the scope of the medical investigation and ultimately providing the report on the circumstances, manner and cause of death, regardless of which county the in-custody death occurs in. Speaking in support today is Angela Hill representing the California Medical Association.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
And I also have with you if it's okay, Madam Chair, Ethan Bertrand, my district director, who will be reading testimony from the Immigrant Legal Defense Center in Santa Barbara who were unable to attend today's hearing. The center advocates for immigrants on the Central Coast.
- Angela Hill
Person
Thank you. Good morning, Madam Chair and Senator Arreguin. I'm here on behalf of the California Medical Association in strong support of AB 1108, which will ensure the Independence of professionals and making clinical and forensic determinations. In counties where sheriffs also serve as corners, medical determinations are structurally tied to the office responsible for custodial supervision. And this can create or a conflict or the appearance of one, particularly when there are questions that arise around the conditions of the confinement or the adequacy of care.
- Angela Hill
Person
AB 1108 is a measured approach that will make sure that cases that involve an in-custody death are investigated by independent examiners and pathologists. This bill does not impose a one size fits all approach. It allows for the intercounty referrals or contracting with independent forensic pathologists; a practical and cost-effective solution, especially for smaller counties.
- Angela Hill
Person
AB 1108 does not question the professionalism of local officials. Rather, it just recognizes that medical independence enhances credibility. CMA supports AB 1108 because it safeguards the integrity of forensic medical work performed by physicians that benefit all Californians. We thank Assemblymember Hart for his leadership on this important issue and we respectfully urge an aye vote. Thank you.
- Ethan Bertrand
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair and Senator Arreguin; reading a statement from Julissa Pena, Executive Director of the Immigrant Legal Defense Center on the Senate Central Coast.
- Ethan Bertrand
Person
Yes, Thank you. Ethan Bertrand with Assemblymember Hart's Office. "Our organization stands with nearly a dozen other immigrant serving groups on the Central Coast in support of AB 1108. As a service provider that is working around the clock to support immigrants who are targeted by ICE for arrest and detention, we are very concerned for the safety of our immigrant community.
- Ethan Bertrand
Person
From the raids in Los Angeles to the operations in Camarillo and Carpinteria last week, people are being put in harm's way. Sadly, we are concerned about the potential for people to lose their lives while being detained or arrested.
- Ethan Bertrand
Person
Last week, there was an immigrant farm worker who died during the chaotic raid of a work site as over 200 farm workers were arrested. The LA Times recently released an article about a woman suffering a serious heart attack after being arrested by ICE while selling tamales. This isn't just an issue out in the community.
- Ethan Bertrand
Person
For years, privately-run, for-profit immigrant detention centers have failed to provide for the health and welfare of immigrant detainees. If someone dies while being arrested or transported in the community, the local coroner or medical examiner is called. The same would happen if someone in immigration custody was to die after being taken to a hospital.
- Ethan Bertrand
Person
People who die in immigration custody deserve to have a medical investigation that is conducted by a physician who does not answer to the sheriff. The Immigrant Legal Defense center respectfully asks for your support."
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you very much. Anyone else in support of AB 1108, please come forward.
- Matty Hyatt
Person
Matty Hyatt, California Civil Liberties Advocacy, in support for restoring confidence in law enforcement and as a statewide concern.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Anyone else in support of AB 1108? Seeing none. Anyone in opposition to AB 1108?
- Cameron Sasai
Person
Good morning, Chair and members. Cameron Sasai, on behalf of LEAD Filipino and on behalf of the families of Angelo Quinto, Miles Hall, and Oscar Grant, in opposition. Thank you.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Cory Salzillo on behalf of the California State Sheriff's Association here in opposition to the bill. First, just foundationally, we disagree with the notion that a sheriff coroner office conducting a death investigation of an in-custody death creates a conflict of interest or even the appearance thereof.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Many counties already have policies and practices in place where there is - when there is an in custody death, or for example, an officer involved shooting, where there's an agreement in place that another county sheriff coroner office undertakes the investigation and maybe with a medical examiner's office or an independent coroner's office that they say, "You know, you do our investigations and we'll do yours," because of just, again, out of the practice of good government, have somebody else take a look at it.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
But this is a voluntary process and the recent amendments to the bill prohibit this type of arrangement. It is also unclear that how this is going to work because the bill effectively mandates counties to contract with other parties. I don't know how we require a local government to enter into a contract.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
The parties have to agree to the terms of a contract. If no entity will accept the contract for death investigation, what happens next is unclear. I'm not entirely clear what the recent assertions about immigration raids have to do with this, but let's be clear.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
In every single case in which there is an autopsy, every single case, without exception, irrespective of whether it's one of the 48 counties who have a sheriff coroner or the 10 counties who have a medical examiner or a coroner, a forensic pathologist does the autopsy. That's just a fact. There's no question.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Or maybe they do, maybe they don't. In every single case in which there is an autopsy, a doctor, a surgeon does that autopsy. And in every single case in which there's a death investigation, a medical doctor determines the cause of death, the why the person is no longer with us. That's just a fact.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Those two things are required by statute already. We've heard this complaint that sheriffs are not trained or educated to make medical decisions. The good news is nobody's asking them to. The sheriffs - there's this notion that, you know, there's an expectation that a sheriff is cutting open a body. That doesn't happen. That's done by a doctor always.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
So, for all of those reasons, we'd respectfully ask for your no vote. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Anyone else in opposition to AB 1108? Okay, seeing none. Senator Arreguin, any questions or comments?
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you. Well, I support this bill in the Senate Public Safety Committee, but I do have a question for the author, and I will be supporting the bill today. I want to just call attention to the letter.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And we had a representative here today from my district actually of an organization, LEAD Filipino, and I think he spoke on behalf of a number of families of victims, including Oscar Grant. And we all remember the trust tragic murder of Oscar Grant by BART police in the City of Oakland in my district.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I understand the concern that they've expressed about this bill is that in those specific, very tragic cases, that there was not impartiality between who the county had selected to conduct the autopsy investigation. And so, wonder if you could speak to that particular issue.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And you know, I would argue that having another county conduct the investigation or a third party conduct the investigation creates even more distance and ensures more impartiality in terms of how it's going to be. The death and custody investigation would occur. I think that's best practice, frankly, because it removes the potential for conflict of interest or bias.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
But I'm wondering if you can speak to that particular issue, given the concerns that have expressed by these families about what's happened, how this bill could address that, and if there are situations where the third party investigator that's hired by the county does have some sort of conflict of interest, what would be the process of addressing that?
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Well, thank you for that question. And I deeply respect and agree with the family members who are concerned about the potential conflict of interest in the current situation.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
And looking at the legislative history of bills that have been proposed in the past that were not successful. I've tried to have a more targeted approach that I hope can be successful and incrementally improve the situation by providing some more Independence to the system. And we've narrowed the bill in a targeted way.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
And I think that it does not address all of the issues that the family members would like to see, which is a fully separated sheriff and coroner's office. I think that this is going to improve the situation by providing a degree of independence and confidence in the process. It's really important for everybody involved.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
I'm sorry, I didn't get your name. I know you're from the Sheriff's State - Sheriff's -
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Cory, could you tell me what you think is the downside to this? Because I think generally speaking, it seems to - it makes a lot of sense that you would have people who might be involved in the investigation not be involved around the death, whatever process takes place, you pick up the body or be at the crime scene. So, what's the downside to having an independent, another person, another entity take charge of the as a coroner.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
In a vacuum, I'm not sure that there is. The reality, though, is that 48 of our 58 counties have chosen this model under our statutes. And that means 10 counties have what would qualify as an entity with which the county with a sheriff coroner could contract. There's this notion of independent medical examiners; I'm not sure who they are or if it's a different agency within a different county.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
But so, the downside in the context of the reality we find ourselves in is that 10 counties, and whoever else this third-party pool is, will be required effectively by this bill to take on the death investigations that fall under this notion of a conflict of the 48 counties. So that's a downside, number one, for those 10 counties.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Most of the counties that have independent medical examiners are larger counties. But again, they have their own death investigation. So, putting the deficit bar here on those counties creates challenges for them. There's also issues
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Financial, workload; I mean, there we hear complaints routinely about how long it takes for a death investigation to be concluded, how long it takes for a death certificate to come to fruition, and moving these cases onto another county's workload could exacerbate those issues. I think that's just one downside to doing something like this, because again, we don't know.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
We're telling. I mean, we're effectively telling you, Senator Durazo, if your county has a sheriff coroner's office, you have to contract with Mr. Iceberg or you have to contract with somebody else to do this work. Well, if Mr.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Mr. Iceberg is not able to undertake those, you know, tasks, or is unwilling to say, I'm not going to do that work for what you're willing to pay Senator or county supervisor or, you know, it creates this square peg into a round hole that.
- Cory Salzillo
Person
Okay, well, if that doesn't happen, and if all the other Mr. Icebergs are not able to facilitate or accommodate or are willing to sign a contract, what do we do?
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay, thank you, Assemblymember. Do you want to respond to any of those issues?
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Yeah, I just do need to correct the record. There are 48 counties in the state that this would apply to. 10 counties have separated sheriff and coroner operations currently. They are the largest counties in the state. They have the vast majority of the population of the state.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
So, the point that this is going to place an additional burden on those 48 counties to have a system that provides that Independence is legitimate. But the number of deaths that we're talking about are relatively modest in the context of the State of California. There were only 781 in custody deaths.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Each person in each situation is important and deserves careful examination: 225 of those were ensured sheriff's custody, 93 in police custody, 2 in probation, and the majority, 461 were in state custody. So, the number of instances where this would be employed is relatively modest in the context of county operations.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
And I think it's in looking at the equities and the transparency for the public interest, I think it's an investment that's worth making.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do pass as amended to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll Call].
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. The bill is on call. Thank you. We're going to take up. If Senator Arreguin will be helpful. Here is take up two bills that were presented by Assembly Member Alvarez. Go back to them. Do you need a motion? Yes, I need to. So go ahead.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do pass as amended to the Senate floor. Senators Durazo, aye. Durazo, aye. Choi. Arreguin. Arreguin. Aye. Cabaldon, Laird, Seyarto, Wiener, 20 on call. We can do the vote for this one. That has a motion. So. Already gave me the motion. But we didn't take the roll. We didn't. No, because it wasn't.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay, so we have a motion on 610. AB 610. But we didn't vote. Okay. So now we're going to vote. We don't need the motion, but we are going to vote on AB 610.
- Committee Secretary
Person
We did have a- but we didn't have a quorum. We didn't vote because we didn't have a. The motion is due pass as amended to the Committee on Appropriations, Senators Durazo. Aye. Durazo, aye. Choi, Arreguin, aye. Cabaldon, Laird, Seyarto, Weiner. 20 on call.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay, the motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Floor. Senator Durazo, aye. Durazo, aye. Choi, Arreguin, aye. Cabaldon, Laird, Seyarto, Wiener. 20
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay. Okay. Move on to item 11, AB 648, by Assembly Members of Zbur. Welcome. Good morning.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I will be stepping in a chair and so I'll turn over to you, Assembly Member, to present on your bill.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
Good morning, Mr. Chair. I am proud today to present AB 648, which will combat housing insecurity and homelessness among community college students, staff and faculty while also addressing California's broader housing crisis. I'd like to start by accepting the Committee's amendments and thanking the Committee staff for their work on this bill. So thank you very much.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
California community colleges are an integral part of our higher education system system. With over 2 million students attending one of California's 116 community colleges, the community college system has become a critical pathway allowing Californians from all backgrounds to access higher education and economic mobility.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
Unfortunately, community college students often face uncertainty about whether they'll be able to provide for their basic needs. Last year, the Legislative Analyst Office found that roughly 660% of community college students face housing security and almost 25% have experienced homelessness. I want to repeat that almost 25% of our community college students have experienced homelessness.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
The state has taken multiple actions in recent years to increase student housing at community colleges and allow students to focus on their work instead of worrying about where they're going to sleep at night. AB 648 will address the housing crisis and and recognize the integral role of the California community colleges in our higher education system.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
Specifically, the bill will allow student and staff housing to be built on property that's owned or leased by a community college district and located within a half mile of a main campus or an existing satellite campus.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
Regardless of how the lot is zoned, community colleges will still be required to comply with CEQA to consult with their local planning Department and follow other relevant regulations.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
Not only will this provide housing security for countless community college students, staff and faculty, but it will also make available housing units around community colleges, which will increase housing supply for community Members who aren't students or affiliated with the community college. I'll ask for your aye vote at the appropriate time.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
And with me today in support of the bill are Donald Girard, Senior Director of Government Relations and Institutional Communications at Santa Monica College, Ken, key contributor and entity in my district, and Dr. Lay, SATA, vice chancellor of Facilities at Los Angeles Community College District.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much. You each have two minutes to address the Committee on the bill. Whoever would like to begin.
- Donald Girard
Person
Good morning, Chair Members of the Committee, My name is Don Gerard and I'm here on behalf of Santa Monica College, often referred to as smc. Our community extends far beyond Santa Monica. We have around 25,000 students and offer more than 100 fields of study.
- Donald Girard
Person
Housing insecurity is a crisis for California's community college students and we've seen this firsthand at SMC. We are proud to have led the state for 34 consecutive years in the number of community college students who transfers to the ucs.
- Donald Girard
Person
However, this academic success comes in in spite of the large number of our students who face either homelessness or housing insecurity. AB 648 is a necessary and urgent solution to this problem.
- Donald Girard
Person
By allowing community colleges to build student and staff housing on property they own or lease without facing lengthy and expensive delays due to local zoning, this bill removes a major hurdle standing in the way of desperately needed housing. Schools like SMC are ready to Fund and build housing to support our students. This is more than just words.
- Donald Girard
Person
In 2022 Santa Monica residents voted to allocate $375 million to SMC for a bond measure that explicitly included Provide affordable housing in the ballot title. Our residents stand with us and we're ready to begin addressing the community college student housing crisis by building housing.
- Donald Girard
Person
We we, along with our co sponsors, including the Los Angeles Community College District and many colleges and supporter parties, see this bill as a necessary step to help ensure that community colleges are able to fully support our students. Thank you. Respectfully ask for your aye vote as amended and thank you for your engagement and involvement.
- Lee Sada
Person
Good morning Chair Aguain My name is Lee Sada and I'm here to represent the Los Angeles Community College District as a co sponsor of AB 648. I serve as the Vice Chancellor and Chief facilities Executive with LACCD, a district that serves over 200,000 students at nine campuses across over 850 miles of service area.
- Lee Sada
Person
I'd like to thank Assembly Members Burr for authoring AB648, a landmark Bill that will greatly benefit thousands of California community college students struggling with housing insecurity. The housing crisis in Los Angeles has reached a critical point, becoming one of the most urgent barriers to our students ability to complete their higher educational goals.
- Lee Sada
Person
AB648 will provide avenues for community college districts to more expeditiously break ground on the construction for much needed housing projects for students and employees, making a significant impact on the housing shortage In Los Angeles today at LACCD we provide temporary housing and wraparound services to over 100 housing insecure students through partnerships with nonprofit organizations.
- Lee Sada
Person
We recently initiated a call for properties procurement process and are actively conducting due diligence on a housing development on LACCD owned property.
- Lee Sada
Person
LACCD is implementing a three pronged housing strategy including purchasing or leasing buildings near our campuses, forming dorm housing partnerships with local colleges and universities such as in the CSU system, and constructing dorm style housing on one of our or more of our campuses.
- Lee Sada
Person
This strategy enables us to address the diverse and urgent housing needs of our student population on various timelines and through different approaches. AB648 will remove local zoning barriers and will significantly enhance LA CCD's ability to expedite the construction of student and employee housing facilities on district owned or leased properties.
- Lee Sada
Person
We respectfully ask for your aye vote and we thank you for your time and consideration.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much for your testimony. We'll now take MeToo testimony in support of AB648. Please approach the microphone. State your name, organization and position on the Bill.
- Raymond Contradas
Person
Morning Mr. Chair and May Members Raymond Contradas, White House Public affairs on behalf of Abundant. Housing Los Angeles as a co sponsor and spur and strong support. Thank you. Thank you.
- Andrew Antwih
Person
Mr. Chair. Members Andrew Antwee with C.H. Yoder, Antwee Schmelzer and Lang here today. On behalf of the City of Santa Monica in support. We thank the author.
- Ruth Martinez
Person
Good morning. Ruth Sosa Martinez on behalf of Power CA Action in support.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Good morning. Kate Rogers with the Student Homes Coalition. In support as a co sponsor. Thank you. Theresa Brown on behalf of the California Community College's Chancellor's Office and support. Good morning. Karen Stout here on behalf of the. Student Senate for California Community Colleges. Well at California be in support.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you. Mark Mcdonald on behalf of the Los Rios San Diego and Fujille De Anza. Community College districts and support. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. Andrew Martinez, Community College League of California in support. Thank you.
- Orchida Reyes
Person
Good morning. Orchidia De Bruy Reyes on behalf of. Long Beach City College in support.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much. Anyone else wishing to express support for AB648? Sign? No one. Is anyone in opposition AB648? If so, please come forward. Seeing no one wishing to testify in opposition, I'll bring it back to the dais. And thank you so very much Assembly Reservoir for bringing this Bill forward.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I think it's absolutely critical and I just want to highlight a few things that were cited in the Committee analysis 1.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
According to a May 2024 update on student housing assistance by the LAO's office, the rates of students experiencing homelessness at some point in the past 12 months was 24% of respondents in our community college system in California. And we know that our community college students are either working simultaneously while they're attending college supporting their families.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I want to lift up the important work that's done to provide basic needs services to many of our community college students. And the lack of affordable and available housing near where students study is a significant barrier to their academic success and to their personal success. And you know, I'm a proud graduate of the University of California, Berkeley.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I really, I'm grateful for all the investment the state's done to help the UC system build student housing. There's not been the same focus on supporting our community college districts.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And specifically as cited on page three of the analysis, it talks about UC and CSU being state entities and being exempt from local land use regulations which give them more and as a former mayor of a UC town, it's frustrating but that flexibility is important to allow them to be able to build student housing and to build it more quickly.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
CCDs don't have the same exemption from local land use regulations. So I think this provides good flexibility to make sure housing projects get built. I appreciate you accepting the Committee amendments include some requirements around affordability. With that I'll turn it back over to you close.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
I think you've pretty much given my close at the right time. I respectfully asked for your aye voted.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay, thank you. We don't have a quorum of membership here, so I want to get a motion when we get another Member. But thank you very much, Assemblymer. Thank you to the witnesses. Thank you, Senator. Appreciate it.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay, we'll now move to our next bill and file order which IS file item 13, AB 752 by Assemblymer Avila Ferias. Good to see you. And so whenever you're ready, Assemblymember, we will go to you and whenever you're ready, some of you may present on your thank you.
- Anamarie Farias
Legislator
Thank you. Chair and Members, I'm pleased to present AB752. I would like to start by accepting the Committee's proposed amendments and thank the chair and the staff for their work on the important measure. AB752 updates state law to support support the development of child care centers across California.
- Anamarie Farias
Legislator
This bill reduces regulatory barriers by allowing child care centers by right in residential zones when they're co located with multifamily housing and established institutional uses Accessible, affordable childcare is essential for family stability and community opportunity. Providers consistently identify zoning restrictions as a costly, burdensome barrier in meeting their needs.
- Anamarie Farias
Legislator
Neighborhood child care centers support childhood development, workforce participation and community well being. AB752 treats it as an essential infrastructure. It is streamlining access where families live and work.
- Anamarie Farias
Legislator
Joining me in support today is Shelly Mazur, representing the Vail sponsor, and Elmer Martinez, Mayor of Redwood City and Director of Community Communications at the Child Care Center Council of San Mateo County.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Good morning. You each have two minutes to present on the bill.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
Thank you Assemblymember thank you Senator. As the Assembly Member said, I'm Dr. Shelley Mazur. I'm the Vice President of Advisory and Policy at the Low Income Investment Fund and we are a national community development financial institution that everyone live in a community community of equity opportunity and well being.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
And as a sponsor of the bill, we're pleased to work to increase both affordable housing and childcare facilities and grateful to Assemblymember Fadias for authoring the bill.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
Also, as a former City Council Member and an advocate for building supply of child care, I'm committed to building communities by building housing and child care together or co location through streamlining processes for both.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
Along with the rest of the country, California is facing a child care crisis that is exacerbated by lack of facilities, workforce shortages and inadequate funding. We have a multifaceted problem that requires multifaceted solutions and AB752 offers one the master plan for Early Learning and Care.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
The California for All Kids states that more than 70% of centers reported facilities need moderate or major renovations.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
And as the CO administrator with California Department of Social Services of the California Infrastructure Grant Program lifts our request totaling $1.0 billion for the $350 million of the Legislature allocated high quality facilities are often referred to as the third teacher and are key to creating the best learning environments for children and work environments for providers who work in them.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
8752 would develop new spaces for children by removing red tape when developers are co locating new new housing with child care facilities modeled after SB234 which gives by right approval to family child care residential zones. AB 752 reflects a similar bill in Oregon where LIF is helping administer a colocation Fund.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
As such, we've administered mirrored processes that we know are effective.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
An example of where this bill could have made a difference is in the Central Valley where partners told us about hotels that have been converted into affordable affordable housing and they could have used this Bill to Help create ground floor child care more quickly and efficiently across the state. We're seeking ways to increase housing and build communities.
- Shelley Mazur
Person
Co locating childcare and housing is one piece of a complicated puzzle and we ask for your support.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
Thank you. Good morning Chair and Members of the Committee My name is Elmer Martinez. I serve as the Director of communications at the four Cs of San Mateo county and have the honor of serving my hometown, the City of Urban City, as its Mayor.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
I'm here on my own behalf in strong support of AB752, a Bill that advances a practical solution to two interconnected challenges California is facing. Child care access and housing stability. AB752 enables more communities to co locate these essential services and it doesn't mandate a new structure.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
Rather, it removes the friction that slows down what's already working in places like Redwood City. It ensures that local governments can prioritize family centered infrastructure and by recognizing child care centers co located with housing or civic amenities as a by right use.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
Aligning zoning with public need In Redwood City, our City Council has continued to identify housing, transportation and children and youth as our strategic priorities. And co location is already a key part of our strategy to build a healthier, more resilient community.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
Our City Council is committed to actively working to expand the availability of child care, often facilitating and advocating for the inclusion of those facilities in new housing development proposals. Despite these hurdles, since 2020, the city has approved three residential developments that include child care centers supporting up to 250 families. But this approach didn't happen by accident.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
It took vision, collaboration across departments and active support from local leaders. AB752 will help streamline this process statewide, creating more opportunities for working families to access child care. From my county wide work in the child care sector, I see how co located sites don't just serve individual families, but they strengthen the entire system.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
They improve supply by embedding child care development child care into plan development. So we see the number of available slots increase in areas of high need.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
They reduce barrier access access barriers for parents, especially for those who have lower incomes or work early or late schedules and can access these services without juggling multiple locations or transit challenges and co locating models build trust by creating ecosystem systems of care where families find support, education, housing and health resources all in one place.
- Elmer Martinez
Person
In San Mateo county, we know that child care access is foundational for the development of our youngest learners, but also for the working families who depend on these essential services. So I Urge your support of AB752 so more communities can better align their zoning for this critical public need. Thank you.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much. We now take me to testimony in support of AB752. If you wish to express support for the bill, please state your name, organization, position.
- Elise Borth
Person
Good morning. Elise Borth on behalf of the Silicon Valley Community foundation and strong support.
- Moira C. Topp
Person
Thank you Mr. Chair. Moira Topp on behalf of the City of San Diego and support.
- Jeannette Carpenter
Person
Good morning. Jeanette Carpenter on behalf of Child Action and strong support. Thank you.
- Esmeralda Singh
Person
Good morning Esmeralda Martin Singh with the Low Income Investors Investment Fund and Build Up California and strong support. Thank you.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much. Anyone else wishing to express support for AB 752, seeing no one else, will now take opposition witnesses.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
So anyone wishing to express opposition to AB752 and seeing no one bring it back to the dais And I was very happy to support this bill in the Senate Human Services Committee and at the appropriate time happen to be make the motion when we relinquish the gavel to the Chair.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
You know, I think this bill is one about making it easier to co locate childcare in new housing projects and residential developments. This is an essential service and amenity that should be part of how we're planning communities to make sure that we are providing affordable child care for working families.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
We know there's a significant barrier to people accessing and staying employed. We also know it's critical for the social and emotional and educational development of kids as well.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And so I think all these provisions, the making it by right, the exemption from the taxes I think represents that we recognize childcare to be an essential function of the state and something that we should be encouraging through our policy. So thank you for introducing the bill. I'll turn over you to close. Oh, I'm sorry, Senator Seyarto.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Okay, great. I just want to say I really. Appreciate your bill and your bills so. Far seem to be really well thought out. And this is something that in particular communities are in desperate need of so that people can put their kids in a secure place and allow them to work with a clear mind.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And so appreciate you bringing this bill to us and I'll be happy to support it with a motion.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
See no further discussion. We have a motion by. Oh, I'll turn it back over to the Assembly room to close.
- Anamarie Farias
Legislator
Thank you. This bill has no opposition and I simply respectfully ask for your Aye vote.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay. We will now call the roll on the motion by Senator Seyarto.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is due pass as amended to the Senate Floor.[ Roll Call]
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
That bill on call for absent Members. Thank you very much. I see our next authors here, so we'll proceed to file item 14 AB769 by Assemblymember Wilson.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And if there's anyone who's testifying in support of the bill, please join us here and I'll turn over you Assembly Member to present.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Good. Good morning everyone. Did I hear support? Support? Well then I will be really brief. I'm pleased in AB 769, a bill. To modernize and clean up the section. Of Public Resources Code governing regional park Districts, park and Open Space districts and open space districts.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
The East Bay Regional Park District along with similar agencies play a critical role in preserving natural spaces while also providing valuable recreational opportunities for millions of Californians. However, existing applicable provisions in the PRC code are increasingly outdated and do not fully address the current demands of land management, governance or sustainable environmental practices.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Over time, it has become increasingly clear that administrative processes need to be more efficient. These updates will enhance governance, ensure adaptability and safeguard the long term sustainability of regional park resources. Additionally, I would like to thank the Chair and their Committee staff for their feedback and confirm that we will be accepting Committee amendments today.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
With me is Jennifer Galehouse, who is present, who's representing the East Bay Regional Park District.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
Hi, is this on? Okay. I always messed that up. My name is Jennifer Galehouse. I'm with the Environmental and Energy Consulting and we are here on behalf of the East Bay Regional Park District which sponsors the bill. I'd like to thank the author for introducing it.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
The East Bay Regional Park District spans over 127 acres and crosses Alameda and Contra Costa County. The district manages 200 miles of active transportation trails and. And that covers 3 million people and 33 counties. So with that in mind. 33 cities. Right, 33 cities. Did I say counties. Sorry. She knows. She knows.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
I've been to a lot of the parks, but. And I'll skip over a bunch of stuff that you don't need to know, but it's an independent electric board. They each represent almost as many people as an Assembly District. So it's very large. This was first.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
There's been a comprehensive overhaul of the enabling statute which went into Place in 1933. The Park District was established in 1934. This district and the Mid Peninsula Regional Open Space District sat down after the 90th anniversary of East Bay and looked at the statute and came up with some ideas how to make it run smoother.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
They also conferred with some of their colleagues and partners and they came up with these efficiencies, the main ones that we're interested in. We increased the admin purchasing limit. It's now going to 150. At the request of the Committee you 'd be surprised how much equipment a park uses that goes over the 50,000 amount that we had.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
Tractors, copy machines, bare protective trash, trash cans basically cost almost $150,000 each. So over the last five years, 200 different things had to go before the board for approval where the general manager could have just approved it himself. So that's a very important one for us.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
There were also a lot of obsolete codes that no longer applied that we're getting rid of that were either project specific or just went away because no one was using them. And we're also updating some land exchange provisions so the board doesn't have to approve everything. The voters don't have to approve everything.
- Jennifer Galehouse
Person
And we can actually trade property with other public agencies. And if we don't want to trade, we can get money to purchase park properties somewhere else. With that I respectfully ask for an Aye vote.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much. We'll now take #MeToo testimony in support of AB769. If you're in support, please state your name, organization, position on the bill.
- Claire Sullivan
Person
Thank you. Claire Sullivan, on behalf of the California Association of Recreation and Parks Districts. And strong support. Thank you.
- Noah Melroy
Person
Noah Melroy, on behalf of Mid Peninsula Regional Open Space District in support.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you very much. Anyone else wishing to Express support for AB769? Seeing no one. Is there anyone in opposition to AB769? Seeing no opposition witnesses. I'll bring it back to the dais moved by Senator Syrto. Thank you for this bill.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Ford, as somebody represents part of the East Bay Regional Park District, I think these are important technical changes to allow the district to acquire land, you know, and to do the important work of actually maintaining this important district. So thank you for being here today. I'll turn it back over to you to close.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. And you know, this is just important for efficiencies. It still has the oversight and guidelines of the district. And as a result, because these are elected positions, the people. And so with that, I respectfully ask for an Aye vote.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Great. Thank you. We have a motion by Senator Seyarto, the community assistant can please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is due passed as amended to the Senate Floor. [Roll Call]
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay, we'll keep that Bill on call. Thank you. We have three more bills left, so if Assembly Member Fong, Assembly Member Wallace or Assembly Member Ahrens can please come to the Committee room in room 113 of the Capitol. Whoever comes first we'll come to your Bill next. Yeah, why don't we lift calls on motions while we're waiting?
- Committee Secretary
Person
This is File item number one AB76. Alvarez. The motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Floor. The current vote is 2-0 with the chair voting aye. [roll call]
- Committee Secretary
Person
This is file item number two AB610. The motion is do pass as amended to the Committee on Appropriations. The current vote is 2-0 with the chair voting aye. [roll call]
- Committee Secretary
Person
This is file item number 3 AB652. The motion is do pass as amended too the Senate Floor. The current vote is 2-0 with each chair voting aye. [roll call] 4-0.
- Committee Secretary
Person
This is File item number 4 AB93. The motion is do pass as amended to the Committee on Appropriations. The current vote is 2-0 with the chair voting aye. [roll call]
- Committee Secretary
Person
3-1. This is file item number 7 AB1441. The motion is do pass to the Committee on Appropriations. The current vote is 2-1 with the chair voting aye. [roll call]
- Committee Secretary
Person
3-1. This is file item number 8 AB471. The motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Floor. The current vote is 2-0. [roll call] 3-1.
- Committee Secretary
Person
This is File item number 9 AB1108. The motion is do pass as amended to the Committee on Appropriations. The current vote is 2-0 with the chair voting aye. [roll call] 3-1.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Oh, I'll move. Oh, I can't move it. Can somebody make a motion on file item 11 AB648 moved by Wiener. Thank you.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do passed as amended to the Senate Floor. [roll call] 2-1.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay, we'll keep that bill on call. Could we call the roll and consent?
- Committee Secretary
Person
The consent calendar consists of File item number 6 AB457. File item number 10 AB532. File item number 19 AB1529. [roll call]
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
It's been moved already. Yeah, so we're just opening the roll.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
We will keep consent on call. Are there any other bills that we need to record votes on? Did we do 12?
- Committee Secretary
Person
This is file item number 13 AB752. The motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Floor. The current vote is 2-0. [roll call]
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Wiener. Vote on filing on 14. Okay, great. And we'll go to 15 now because I see a similar Fong here. Okay, so we'll now proceed to file item 15, AB893 by Assembly Member Fong. Good morning.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
Good morning, Mr. Chair and Members. AB 893 expands the ministerial approval process for residential mixed income developments on commercially zoned properties near campuses and universities and creates eligibility for affordable units using this process for students, faculty and staff.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
As Chair of the Assembly Higher Education Committee, I'm acutely aware of how our state's housing crisis has affected our students and faculty. An unacceptable number of students are homeless or housing insecure. 8% of UC students, 11% of CSU students and 24% of our community college students.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
Housing insecurity reduces completion rates and jeopardizes the power and promise of higher education to transform lives. We need to do more to address this crisis.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
AB 893 builds upon AB 2011 to encourage development near our University and our college campuses, maintaining the same affordability requirements and improving AB 2011 to ensure 100% affordable developments have an easier path to break ground. It also extends affordability to faculty and staff, allowing them to stay within our communities instead of enduring long commutes.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
By explicitly defining eligibility for affordable units, it also addresses barriers students face in addressing and accessing affordable units due to outdated rules that haven't kept up with the changing demographic of today's college student. Finally, AB 893 streamlines eligibility by allowing students to demonstrate their financial need for certain financial aid documents.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
Here to testify and support is Remo Hooper with the UC Student Association and Kate Rogers with the Student Homes Coalition. Thank you.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Great. Thank you very much. Good morning. You each have two minutes to present.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
Good morning, Chair and Members. My name is Remo Hooper with the UC Student Association. I just wanted to talk about my experience growing up in California, I was raised by a single mother in South Central Los Angeles. And she worked all day, all night, sometimes to provide for us, but we often went without.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
The thing that most affected me going without was housing. I've lived with family, friends in hotels for long periods of time, and even overcrowded homes that were rented out by slumlords.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
Through this all, I decided to orient myself and my life towards education because I was told, and I believe that education would be a path out of poverty and going without. At UCSB, I discovered the housing crisis and the fact that affordable units simply are not accessible.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
Students have to choose between living in poorly maintained units or incurring mountains of debt just to survive. And that's if you get housing in the first place. If you're not homeless, the options are limited and we have to rely on connections or Facebook Marketplace just to find housing.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
In my case, over the summer last year, I had to work three different jobs just to pay for the first two months of rent and security deposit, which were all due within a single month at that same unit.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
The security deposit which was returned to me, they confiscated most of it because for cleaning expenses, despite the fact that I moved into a unit that was very, very severely infested with mold. And this is just the nature of housing in the area.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
Unfortunately, the situation is dire for us students and we are being sacrificed to the whims of private developers because our universities have failed us, local governments have failed us, state governments have failed us, and Federal Governments have failed us. I hope the Committee passes AB 893 because the housing crisis is something that deeply affects students like myself.
- Reemo Hooper
Person
And every moment that we miss every year, every month, is years and months of more stories just like my own. Thank you very much.
- Kate Rogers
Person
Good morning Members. My name is Kate Rogers. I'm the co chair of the Student Homes Coalition. We're Proud to sponsor AB 893 and I respectfully request your support today. So the student housing crisis is undeniable. You heard the statistics from the Member, you heard Reemo's story here.
- Kate Rogers
Person
Tens of thousands of students experience rent burden and homelessness and development on campuses has simply failed to keep up with student demand. This means that access to University housing is incredibly limited, particularly at CSUs and community colleges. In fact, I believe just 14 out of 116 community colleges operate any student housing at all.
- Kate Rogers
Person
So across all three systems, a majority of students rely on private rental housing. University and college populations have continued to grow, often because the legislature requires them to do so. But land use policy around institutions has remained largely the same.
- Kate Rogers
Person
And so as a result of the increased competition, housing costs have skyrocketed for students, faculty and community Members. So AB 893 will allow campus communities to grow and to develop with enough density to sustain growing student populations while preserving the walkability that makes University and college towns accessible to students in the first place.
- Kate Rogers
Person
So I'm happy to answer any questions that any Members may have and I respectfully request your aye vote. Thank you.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much. So we'll now take MeToo testimony in support of AB 893. If there's anyone wishing to express support, please come forward and state your name, organization and position.
- Raymond Contreras
Person
Good morning, Mr. Chair and Members. Raymond Contreras with Lighthouse Public Affairs on behalf of Abundant Housing Los Angeles in support.
- Ruth Martinez
Person
Good morning. Ruth Sosa Martinez on behalf of Power CA Action proud co sponsors in support.
- Karen Stout
Person
Good morning. Karen Stout here on behalf of the Student Senate for California Community Colleges as well as California YIMBY in strong support. Thank you.
- Mario Guerrero
Person
Good morning. Mario Guerrero on behalf of the University of California in support.
- Annabelle Urbino
Person
Good morning. Annabelle Urbino with the CSU Chancellor's Office in support.
- Makai Tran
Person
Good morning. Makai Tran on behalf of Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis in support. Thank you.
- Allie Saberman
Person
Good morning. Allie Saberman on behalf of the Housing Action Coalition and as a former community college student, in strong support.
- Teresa Brown
Person
Good morning. Theresa Brown on behalf of the California Community Colleges Chancellor's Office in support.
- Scott Govenar
Person
Scott Govenar on behalf of the Construction Employers Association in support.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Is there anyone else wishing to express support for AB 893? See no one else. Is there anyone in opposition to AB 893 who wishes to testify? Okay. See no one wishing to. You're speaking in opposition at AB 893.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Me too. I would just note that the City of San Marcos, while they're large supporters of housing and are doing a lot of work, remain opposed because of the bill's disregard for the state mandated local land use planning process.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Good afternoon. [unintelligible] representing the League of California Cities with a position of opposed. Thank you.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay. Anyone else wishing to express opposition to AB 893, please come forward.
- Carlos Lopez
Person
My apologies for being late. Carlos Lopez, California School Employees Association, in support.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay. Thank you. Okay. Seeing no one else wishing to express opposition to AB 893. I'll turn it back over to the dais for any questions or comments or motion. Okay. Moved by Senator Wiener. Thank you. Turn it back over to you. Assembler to close.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
Thank you so much. Senators, this bill will help address our student housing crisis here in California. Very grateful for the wide support that we received from the higher education segments. Our Lieutenant Governor, students, labor, affordable housing developers and more respectfully asked for an aye vote. Thank you.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay, thank you very much. We have a motion by Senator Wiener, the Committee assistant can please call the wall.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do passed to the Committee on Appropriation. [Roll call]. Two, one.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Okay, we'll keep that bill on call. Thank you. Assembly. Thank you so much for coming today. Okay, we'll now go to file item 18, AB 1332 by Assembly Member Ahrens. And then after this we'll have one more bill by Assembly Wallace. And the Vice Chair is here. Would you like me to relinquish the gavel? Okay. All.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Thank you so much. I want to first of all thank the Committee and the Chair's team for helping me with clarifying amendments. I will be accepting the Committee amendments.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
In California, there's a small population of seriously ill patients battling advanced cancers, dementia and children with epilepsy, severe autism and rare genetic syndromes. For most of them, medical cannabis is a key part of their care and comfort. However, as recreational cannabis market has grown, retailers have stopped carrying many medicinal products because they are not profitable.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
This issue has decreased access for many patients. AB 1332 would provide a narrow authorization for a cannabis outdoor cultivation micro businesses to ship medicinal cannabis products directly to the patient's home through an interstate common carrier only after they have received a valid medical Doctor documentation from the patient for that patient, from their physician.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Families and caregivers spend much of their energy caring for their sick loved ones, including driving hours around the state in search of effective products. These patients and caregivers deserve our support. Joining me today are Dr. Jean Talleyrand, MD, founder and Chief Medical Officer of Medican, and Sue Colom, a municipal cannabis patient.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you for joining us today. You each have two minutes to address the Committee on the bill.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
Thank you Members of the Committee. I'm Dr. Jean Talleyrand, a California physician who has evaluated thousands of patients seeking relief through medical cannabis. I strongly support AB 1332. After graduating from Boston University School of Medicine, I moved to San Francisco.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
I began a residency just after passage of Prop 215 at San Francisco General Hospital, then the epicenter of the medical cannabis movement. I witnessed firsthand how patients with chronic and Terminal conditions including children with seizure disorders found life challenging.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
Relief from cannabis formulations made in collaboration with local cultivators and caregivers Much of what I've learned as a physician in this space came from that community. How to prepare tinctures, oils and teas how different cultivars affect different conditions the grassroots medical knowledge eventually contributed to the development of FDA approved medications like Epidiolex.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
AB 1332 creates a narrow, tightly regulated pathway from for licensed Outdoor Micro businesses to work directly with physicians and patients to provide small batch medically tailored cannabis formulations such as oils and tinctures that are no longer readily available through retail dispensaries.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
This allows licensed operators to continue producing specialized patient centered products, not just high turnover adult use inventory. Under the the Bill, direct shipment is only allowed when no local access exists and only under strict conditions. Physician recommendation verification Full track and trace compliance State mandated product testing and signature Confirmed delivery by commercial carrier.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
This bill reconnects patients with the kind of care and collaboration that define California's medical cannabis system without undermining the broader regulatory framework. Denying this pathway means denying care. Let's ensure that Californian's sickest and most vulnerable patients are not left behind in a system designed for sales, but a system designed for patients.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
I urge your Aye vote in AB 1332. Thank you for your time. Thank you very much.
- Susan Klom
Person
Good morning Members of the Committee. My name is Susan Klom. I speak as both a longtime medical cannabis patient and an advocate for the support of safe and affordable access for decades. I use cannabis not just to maintain symptoms but for the overall personal wealth.
- Susan Klom
Person
20 years ago I was became severely ill with wasting syndrome, a condition that is offered associated with HIV and cancer patients. Even though I had neither one of those. I used the traditional medical system, prescribed prescriptions and pharmaceuticals that gave extreme side effects. My primary physician prescribed me Marinol and my condition stabilized.
- Susan Klom
Person
I got a medical cannabis Recommendation under Prop 215 but was left to navigate how to obtain safe and affordable medical cannabis alone. When I became a patient I was connected with a local medical cultivator who grew a specific strain blend of Jack hair and Romulant. This is known as a supportive gastrointestinal health.
- Susan Klom
Person
This medical cannabis was life changing. It stopped my intestinal cramping and helped me restore a quality of life. But Prop 64 and this type of patient focused products have disappeared from the retail shelf. Licensed businesses are pursued by over regulation and oversaturated under regulated market manufacturing over and profit of patients needs. Excuse me.
- Susan Klom
Person
Many of the smaller Cultivations who once directly gave patients their medicine are no longer around. Let us be clear. It would. It would no longer. There would be no longer medical cannabis market without patients.
- Susan Klom
Person
It was the patients living with HIV facing stigmatism and death to lead the fight to the Prop 215 and laid the foundation of the Compassionate Use Act. Activists like Dennis Perrone, Mary Brownie Mary and Wayne Just Jessmin risked everything to ensure that sick and dying Californians could access the plant legally.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Ma', am, I'm sorry to interrupt, but you've exceeded the two minute speaking time. Please complete your thought.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you so much. Okay, we'll now take #MeToo testimony and support of Assembly Bill 1332. Anyone wishing to express support, please name organization.
- Patty Hyatt
Person
Patty Hyatt, California Civil Liberties Advocacy and strong support.
- Rashida Mitchell
Person
Rashida Mitchell, operator of a D9 delivery license. And I'm in support.
- Joy Cassiopeia
Person
Lily Joy Cassiopeia as a disabled veteran and medicinal cannabis patient. Strongly support. Thank you.
- Ron Mullins
Person
My name is Ron Mullins and I just want to let you know that since the legalization.
- Nicole Redler
Person
Thank you, Committee. My name is Nicole Redler with K Street Consulting in support on behalf of California Normal, Brownie Mary Democratic Club of San Francisco, Compassionate Veterans, Andrea Compass. Thank you.
- Jeff Nordahl
Person
Hi, my name's Jeff Nordahl. I am a medical patient and I'm also a licensed cannabis cultivator and manufacturer of wellness tinctures and our company is called Jade Nectar and I'm in strong support of this bill. Thank you.
- Jeff Hergen
Person
Thank you. Hi, my name is Dr. Jeff Hergen Rather. I appreciate the opportunity to speak briefly. I'd like to ask the committee.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Again, we're only taking for #MeToo testimony your name, your position, your occupation or organization representing your position on the bill. We're not allowing for extensive testimony from #MeToo witnesses. I apologize, but that's our. That's our practice.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
That's not our procedure. If you can just state your name. My name is occupation. Your position. But we do accept written comments. Certainly.
- Jeff Hergen
Person
Written comments. Okay. My name is Dr. Jeff Hergen. Rather, I am a California physician for 43 years. My practice is in Sonoma County, California. I have been in practice of making cannabis approvals to patients for over 25 years.
- Jeff Hergen
Person
I strongly support this bill as many patients are underserved and in great need of cannabis. That is difficult for those who are in such great need and so disabled. So your aye vote would be much appreciated. Thank you very much.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I apologize. You know, these are our Committee rules. I want to be fair, to give everyone the same opportunity to testify. But we know you're taking time out of your schedule to come here to Sacramento. This is important to you, it's important to our state.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I really appreciate you taking the time to be here and to participate in our hearing.
- Pamela Lopez
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Pam Lopez, on behalf of the Society of Cannabis Clinicians in support.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you very much. Is there anyone else wishing to express support for Assembly Bill 1332? Seeing no one else. Is there anyone in opposition to Assembly Bill 1332 who wishes to testify? Is there any. Anyone wishing to Testify in opposition? AB 1332? Seeing no one. I'll turn it back over to the Committee for any questions or comments. Senator Seyarto.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Usually I don't. I usually lay off the cannabis stuff, but I have always been supportive of being able to use it in a medical sense and supervised with the right bumper guards for the right people. I think. I think it makes a lot of sense.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And so the way your bill is written has those bumper guards and it's aimed at helping the people that can. I'd rather them get this at home than drive and then have to get it and then, you know, drive again. So I'll be supporting the bill, but don't let this be a signal that I'm all in on.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
Thank you. I would like to ask Dr. Wood, since you are qualified Doctor and have been treating patients with this cannabis. I am not also very much a fan of cannabis materials, but over the years I heard so many witnesses. Medically it was life saving and saving your pain, etc.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
So my only remaining question may be to the Doctor and maybe actual consumer for the treatment of whatever health issue, the continuous use of the cannabis, because I understand that is addictive material. How that will affect the patient after the condition has been treated, or does it require continuous lifetime usage which becomes habitual in the addiction?
- Steven Choi
Legislator
So how does the addiction aspect affect as a medicine to cure the ailment?
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
Great question. Managing addiction is an important part of what we do. There are many substances that are addictive that are prescribed and we feel that cannabis is one of them that can be managed very well. The side effects are less strong than many approved medications.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
But it's important to team the Doctor with the patient as the spill does so that we can provide that kind of service, an important consideration.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
So as a Doctor, do you resort to this kind of medication as a last resort after having tried any other available standard medications?
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
I look at the available research on the safety of products and tries to choose the safest and most efficacious, whether it's the cannabis product or another pathway. But it's important to consider the patient. And also the data that we have.
- Steven Choi
Legislator
Is that temporary, just a pain management tool, or does it also cure the condition permanently and then patient can stop to using can some conditions are cured.
- Jean Talleyrand
Person
There are some miracles that I've seen some. Most of the conditions, the symptoms are alleviated, which is really what we're going for.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Thank you so much. Senator, I would just respectfully ask for your aye vote on behalf of my twin brother who passed away a few years ago from a terminal illness and could have greatly benefited from the passage of this bill.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Sorry to hear that. Thank you for carrying on this work. Thank you. Okay, we have a motion by Senator Wiener. Please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is due. Passed as amended, to the Committee on Appropriation. Appropriation. [Roll Call] 6-0.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
The bill will remain on call. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
We're going to go to AB 1112 with Assembly Member Wallis. Welcome.
- Greg Wallis
Legislator
Good afternoon, Madam Chair and Senators. I have before you today AB 1112. This Bill simply strikes Section 98F4 from the Revenue and Taxation Code. That provision requires the Riverside County Auditor to reduce the property tax revenue distributed to the City of Rancho Mirage below the 7% minimum that other qualifying cities receive.
- Greg Wallis
Legislator
This provision was added to statute in 1997. And while we aren't 100% certain as to why we believe that Rancho Mirage was under the mistaken belief that it would benefit the city. Instead, it has forever enshrined an inequity in property tax distribution.
- Greg Wallis
Legislator
As the Committee analysis points out, the reallocation of property tax revenues is a zero sum game. Every reallocation creates winners and losers. Rancho Mirage and Riverside County are working through the issues surrounding this tax shift, and it's our intention that the issue be worked out between them.
- Greg Wallis
Legislator
I met with the city and county yesterday and we agreed to keep moving this Bill as the details are worked out. Madam Chair, I'll keep you and the Committee informed on the City County discussion. I do want to thank the Committee staff for the excellent analysis.
- Greg Wallis
Legislator
It has been difficult for all of us to unravel the issues surrounding this Bill. And today I have with me Isaiah Hagerman, the City Manager for Rancho Mirage.
- Isaiah Hagerman
Person
Good afternoon, Chair and Senators. My name is Isaiah Hagerman and I'm the City Manager for Rancho Mirage. I appreciate the opportunity to speak in strong support of AB 1112. AB1112 addresses a narrow and outdated section of state law, Revenue and Taxation code, section 98F4 that uniquely penalizes Ranch Mirage.
- Isaiah Hagerman
Person
This provision permanently excludes certain property tax dollars from the tax equity allocation TEA formula, making us the only qualifying no low property tax city in California that doesn't receive the program's 7% minimum. The TEA program was created in response to Proposition 13 to ensure equity among cities with little or no property tax.
- Isaiah Hagerman
Person
Rancho Mirage meets that definition, but due to a decades old carve out, we've been left behind. The original exclusion was enacted in coordination with Riverside County back when the city took on fire and library services. But the financial conditions that prompted that agreement no longer exist. Redevelopment has ended, yet the outdated exclusion remains.
- Isaiah Hagerman
Person
AB 1112 is a modest and fair fix. We're not asking for special treatment, just equal treatment under a program meant to ensure fairness for low no qualifying cities like Rancho Mirage. As the Committee analysis rightly notes, the reallocation of property taxes is a zero sum game.
- Isaiah Hagerman
Person
We recognize that reality and Rancho Mirage is committed to working collaboratively with Riverside County to evaluate and manage any fiscal impact. This Bill isn't about creating winners and losers, it's about restoring equity. For these reasons, we respectfully request your aye vote on AB 1112. Thank you.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Any more. Anyone else wishing to support AB 1112? Okay, seeing none. Anyone in opposition to AB 1112? Okay, seeing None. Comments? Questions? The Bill has been moved by Senator Seyarto. Senator Laird?
- John Laird
Legislator
I was just going to make a comment that I hope nobody from county is watching this hearing because in the same formula they were locked into between 11 and 13% a year with 50% of the people living in unincorporated area and other counties have 27% or more.
- John Laird
Legislator
And the real problem is that when you change these formulas, in addition to local government, fire and schools are in there. So you have to cut fires and schools to rectify inequities and it makes it very, very difficult to do.
- John Laird
Legislator
And I'm going to support this Bill because I actually think this will force the negotiation sometime before the last session that will make people actually agree to this without it having to be done to them legislatively. So just the author is engaged in a thankless task and I will vote for the Bill.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments or questions? No, seeing none. Closing remarks.
- Committee Secretary
Person
The motion is do passed to the Committee on appropriation. [roll call] 6-0.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Okay, so if you all would. We're going to go back to all our bills. Please hang in here. Hang in there. Going back to.
- John Laird
Legislator
Senator Caboldan will be here. But as Senator Choi knows, in education, they're just wrapping up the third hour on the charter school Bill. And he had not spoken yet when I was walking out. So that's why he's not here. As soon as he's done speaking, I'm sure he'll come over.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
We're back in session in local Back in session in local gov. We're going to go through each of the bills starting with AB76.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Thank you, Senator. You take care of yourself. Thank you. Consent calendar is adopted. We've come to the end of the hearing. Thank you to everyone who participated in public testimony. If you were not able to testify, please submit your comments in writing to the Senate Local Government Committee or visit our website.
- María Elena Durazo
Legislator
Your comments and suggestions are very important to us. Thank you to everyone. Thank you to our consultants. Thank you to our sergeants. And we have concluded the agenda.
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