Hearings

Assembly Floor

August 21, 2025
  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The Assembly is now in session. Assembly Member Wallace notices the absence of a quorum. Sergeant in Arms will prepare the chamber and bring in the absent Members. Clerk will call the roll.

  • Reading Clerk

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members of quorum is present. Quorum, please. Assembly Members Ward, you are recognized.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Members. Democratic caucus of the Members lounge right now.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, we will caucus for. We will be meeting for 15 minutes. We'll be. Excuse me. Suspending for 15 minutes on recess. We'll gavel back in in 15 minutes.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, we are back in session. We ask our guests and visitors in the rear of the chamber and in the gallery to please stand for today's prayer. Reverend Oshita will offer today's prayer. Reverend Oshita.

  • Patti Oshita

    Person

    Please join me in a moment of reflection. We concluded our recent trip to Japan in the City of Kyoto. We were able to visit with a dear teacher and friend who impacted Bob's life nearly 60 years ago.

  • Patti Oshita

    Person

    And being much younger, maybe 30 for me, we were quietly feeling our age and how quickly so many decades have passed. Later that day, Bob and I stepped into a small shop to escape the heat. We felt ourselves surrounded by beautiful things from another era.

  • Patti Oshita

    Person

    We chatted with the owner about how much we enjoyed the traditional music of the Gion Summer festival that was concluding. Laughing, he told us that hearing that music only reminds him of the sweltering Kyoto summer heat. Bob then asked him, how long has his shop been here? It looked very well established, the owner said, Since 1603.

  • Patti Oshita

    Person

    Then with a smile, he added, But I'm not 422 years old. He shared that he was the 17th generation of the Nakanishi family to operate their family business. While talking, he went online and found where we could order a CD of the unique Kyoto Summer festival music that he would never play.

  • Patti Oshita

    Person

    It was a delightful meeting that gave us a fresh outlook on the passing of time and also on the responsibilities we have in life. Like Mr. Nakanishi, who is the 17th generation caretaker of his family's tradition, we are all momentary caretakers of a dream that has been unfolding for 249 years since 1776.

  • Patti Oshita

    Person

    It is the dream of creating a nation with liberty and justice for all. A dream that has been a beacon of hope for oppressed people everywhere. Let us continue to try our best to keep this dream alive and the beacon that is America shining bright. Let us live with kindness and gratitude beyond words.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    We ask our guests and visitors to remain standing to join us in the flag salute. A similar Assemblymember Chen will lead us in the Pledge of allegiance.

  • Phillip Chen

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Please put your right hand over your heart. Ready, Begin.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    You may be seated.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    To our guests and visitors today, state law prohibits persons in the gallery from interfering with legislative, business, legislative proceedings or disrupting the orderly conduct of official business. Persons disrupting legislative proceedings are subject to removal, arrest or other appropriate legal remedies. Members, I'd further like to state quorum please.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Further like to state that our House rules require us to follow Mason's Manual Sections 120 to 126 as it relates to words and tone we use in debating public policy on this floor. Mason Section 120 and 121state in part, freedom of speech involves obedience to all the rules of debate.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The language used by Members during debate should be temperate, decorous, respectful. No Member may indulge in personalities. No Member may impugn the motives of other Members or use indecent or profane language. Members, if you choose to stray from these rules, I will admonish you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    And if the violation continues, I will mute your mic and you will forfeit your time. We're going to be moving on to a vote stage. Point of order, Mr. Demaio.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, in reviewing the file for today, there are three pieces of legislation that are on the file that are in direct violation of the California State Constitution, rendering it impossible for this body to take up these items.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    My point of order pertains to Senate Bill 280, which violates Article 21, Section 2G of the Constitution, which only permits an election on redistricting on the ones this matter, on the ones of every decade. The second Bill is ACA 8. The third Bill is AB 604.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Both of these bills violate section Article 21, section 2 G, which expressly prohibits the Legislature from taking any action on redistricting, as well as adopting any maps.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Finally, a point of order to Assembly Bill 604, which violates Article 21, Section 2E, which says, quote, districts shall not be drawn for purpose of favoring or discriminating against an incumbent political candidate or political party. It is my understanding that both the Governor and Members of the Legislature have said that they have partisan goals behind these maps.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    For all three of these maps bills, I ask they be removed from the file immediately and that this body cease violating the state constitution.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Demaio. It's a lot of information. If you give me just a moment, please. Thank you for your patience, Mr. Demaio. Your point of order is not well taken, Mr. Demaio. It's. Let me explain my ruling first, and then you are more than welcome to appeal.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All the measures that you've raised are properly before the House pursuant to the Constitution. Do you wish to. It's been moved and seconded to appeal the ruling of the Chair. Clerk will open the roll. The chair is asking you for an aye vote to sustain his ruling. Mr. Demaio is asking for a no vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to Vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 58, nos. 18. The chair is sustained. Assistant Majority Leader Garcia, you are recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we move the.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    There is no item before so we will recognize you once we do that. Okay. We're going to be moving to a vote on the consent calendar at the request of the author. Items 151sb 482web or Pearson has been removed. Does any Member wish to remove an item from the consent calendar?

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Seeing hearing none, the Clerk will read the second day consent calendar.

  • Reading Clerk

    Person

    Assembly Concurrent Resolution 105 by Assemblymember Mckinnor and others relative to the music industry in California.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Clerk will open the roll. In the consent calendar. All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. System. Majority Leader Garcia, you are recognized. Move the call. The call. Madam Majority Leader, you are recognized.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I request unanimous consent to suspend Assembly. Rule 69B to adopt late amendments on ACA 8. Revisit with consent.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    We're. We're going to dispense with one item at a time. I'm going to recognize leader Gallagher. Leader Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, the Member moved the call. I don't believe there's. State your point of order, Mr. Gallagher. The Member moved the call. I don't believe there's anything before us.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The second day consent calendar that you yourself voted on. Okay, but what we're going to move on. I've made the ruling. This point of order is not well.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Taken point of parliamentary inquiry.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    State your point, Mr. Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    We voted on the consent calendar. Correct? That's what approves it. So I'm confused by what is the.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Clerk did not close the role, Mr. Gallagher. Okay, Mr. Demaio, you're recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    I withhold consent from the motion.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Okay, Mr. Demaio has requested withholding consent on the majority leader's motion. We will now open the roll. Majority leader's motion. All Members vote who desire to vote. Majority leader is asking for an Aye vote. Mr. Demaio is asking for a no vote. Motion was seconded by Mr. Garcia. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All Members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 58. Noes 19. The motion carries.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Okay. Pursuant to Assembly Rule 69, the amendments were approved by the Committee Chair, and the bill has been amended, is out to print back on file. All other amendments on this item that were pending at the Assembly desk are no longer in order to, as they are not drafted to the current version of the measure.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Madam Majority Leader, you are again recognized for your procedural motions.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Thank you. I request unanimous consent to suspend the rules to allow Assemblymember Berman to take up ACA 8 revis, as amended, without reference to file for the purposes of adoption.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Has been moved and seconded by Mr. Garcia. Assemblymember Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    I will have my own motion after this motion is dispensed with.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Gallagher. Assemblymember DeMaio, you were recognized. Withhold consent. Okay. With consent has been withheld. We will move to a vote. The Clerk will open the roll. All Members vote who desire to vote. Majority leaders asking for an Aye vote. Mr. Demaio is asking for a no vote. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All Members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 57, noes 20. The measure carries. Assemblymember Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Yeah. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, being that this bill was ACA, was just amended. I respectfully request that we re refer ACA 8 and SB 280 to the Judiciary Committee so we can have further vetting of these measures.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Just a moment. Okay. Members, it has been moved and seconded. Moved by Assemblymember Gallagher. Seconded by Assemblymember Demaio. Clerk will open the roll. Mr. Demaio is asking for an Aye vote. Majority leader is asking for a no vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Majority leader is asking for a no vote. Mr. Gallagher is asking for an Aye vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tallied votes Ayes 19, Noes. 58. Motion fails. Mr. Demaio, you are recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I move that we immediately take up AJR 21. Independent Redistricting Commission. Constitutional amendment without regard to file.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    There's been a motion to suspend the rules by Mr. DiMaio to suspend the constitution without reference to file. Seconded by Assemblymember Wallace. Clerk will open the roll. All Members vote who desire to vote. Majority leader is asking for a no vote. Mr. Demaio is asking for an Aye vote. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All Members vote who desire to. Clerk will close the roll tally. Votes Ayes 19, Noes. 58. Motion fails. Assemblymember Tangipa, you are recognized.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you. I move to suspend the rules to. Allow ACA 15 to be taken up. Without reference to file. Prove you don't have a vested interest.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    State your point. State your point. Assembly Member Ransom, point of order.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    It seems that that is out of order. Mr. Speaker, I believe earlier when you gave instructions that our comments are not supposed to be directed at anyone's intellect.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, we are not in the portion of motions and resolutions. It is out of order overall to be making motions on items that are not before us. We have made a motion without reference to file to bring ACA 8 to the floor.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    You may make points of order and motions on the items that are before this body and nothing more. Assembly Member Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Again, point of parliamentary inquiry. I believe we were in motions and resolutions. That's why the Majority Leader was making motions. And the only place that you can make motions like the one that was just passed to bring ACA 8 to the floor is during motions and resolutions.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Now, albeit you haven't put it up there on the screen, which is curious to me, but the only place that we could ever do these kinds of motions is during motions and resolutions. So I find it unbelievable that you're saying we're not in motions and resolutions right now.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Your point of order is the unbelievability of this. Yes. State your point of order that we are actually in motions and resolutions.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Otherwise, just a moment. Mr. Gallerized majority leader could not have made her motion.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Gallagher, once the Majority Leader's motion was voted on and approved, and that was consent was withheld and we voted on it as a body, we are then in the portion where we are dealing with ACA 8. And we must first dispense with ACA 8 before we take up any other bills before this House.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Your point of order is not well taken. The Clerk will read.

  • Reading Clerk

    Person

    Assembly Constitutional Amendment 8 by Assembly Member Reavis and others in accolades or redistricting.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Berman, you are recognized.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present ACA 8. On behalf of Speaker Rivas, let me be crystal clear. We don't want this fight and we didn't choose this fight. But with our democracy on the line, we cannot and will not run away from this fight.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    We're here today because President Trump and Republicans in Texas and other states are attempting to redraw congressional districts mid decade in an effort to rig the upcoming election. Just last night, the Texas House passed their plan to rig the 2026 election. Earlier yesterday, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis demanded that his state is owed an extra congressional district.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Right now. And you know that Trump will do everything he can to fulfill this outrageous request. Americans and Californians deserve better. And ACA 8, the election rigging response act is our response to these undemocratic and un American power grabs. ACA 8 allows for the temporary use of voter approved Congressional district boundaries contained in AB604.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Unlike Texas, where Republican politicians ram through maps after assigning law enforcement to trail their Democrat colleagues, every movement.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me, Mr. Berman. By all means Assembly Member Patterson, stage point of order.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Yes. Hi the. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    State your point of order, sir.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Yes, we have been admonished for mentioning parties on.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Patterson, state your point of order. There's no explanation needed. What is the rule that is being violated?

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Your rule that a person speaking may not mention political parties? I ask that the author no longer do that.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    That is not a rule of this body. That is a rule of decorum. The issue with this particular measure is affects political parties. We're going to allow that today. What I spoke with earlier was simply that you should not impugn the motives of your colleagues. Mr. Berman, you may continue.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I was saying, unlike Texas, where Republican politicians ramp through maps after assigning law enforcement to trail their Democrat colleagues every movement. It is California voters who will have the final say whether or not these new district boundaries get used. Because here in California, we respect the will of the voters.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    After the 2030 census, ACA 8 returns all congressional district line drawing powers back to the Citizens Redistricting Commission. In addition, ACA 8 calls on Congress to pass legislation and propose a constitutional amendment to the US Constitution to require the use of fair, independent and nonpartisan redistricting in every state across the country.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Now here are some of the arguments we'll hear from our colleagues from across the aisle today. First, this was decided by voters who were eligible to vote in 2010, and we don't need to revisit it. At least half of the voter registration file is totally new.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    In 2025, over 10 million California voters who did not have the chance to vote on this and have their voices heard in 2010. Now you might be wondering, who does that include? We got a couple of people on the floor today. My Republican colleagues from TuLare and Clovis, my Democrat colleagues from San Jose and La.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    None of them were old enough to vote on this in 2010 and I think they should get the chance to vote on it this year. They will claim that this costs too much money. First, there is no cost too high to save our democracy Second, the return on investment of this election is off the charts.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Something that would make the VCs in my district blush. Trump and his cronies have terrorized our communities. They have targeted our world class institutions trying to extract $1 billion from UCLA alone. They have decimated local economies. They've even extorted California grown businesses like Nvidia.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    And I have not heard one complaint from any colleague from across the aisle to these actions that have cost California billions and billions of dollars. They'll argue that there's no urgency to act. Wake up. The crisis is here and our democracy is under attack.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    President Trump is taking advice on our democracy from Vladimir Putin, someone who literally kills his political opponents. And he's not even trying to be quiet about this. He's bragging about this on national television as if it's something to be proud of.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    This is the same guy who called elections officials in Georgia and demanded they find him 12,000 votes so he could win the state and stay in the White House. This is someone who earnestly talks about the possibility of. Of serving a third term as President of the United States.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    And now realizing that its policies are terribly unpopular and that voters will have a chance to express their opposition next year, he's now trying to rig the election to inoculate himself from the will of the voters and hold on to power.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Now, this wouldn't be a problem if any Republican elected officials had a spine like the Georgia elections officials did in 2020. And to say, no, Mr. President, this is Un American, this is undemocratic, this is wrong, and we will not participate in your steamrolling of democracy.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    But that Republican elected official no longer exists when it comes between standing up for your constituents, saving their health care, saving their food assistance, saving their fathers or daughters from being snatched off the streets by masked and unidentified thugs and flown to torture chambers in foreign countries, or basking in the orange glow of Mar a Lago Republican politicians in California don't give it a second thought.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    They drop to their knees and they do whatever Donald Trump tells them to. There is currently no check on Trump in Washington, only sycophants who clap like seals at the circus. Please.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Summary. Member Gallagher, you were recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    The gentleman is, if I can call him a gentleman, is impugning the character of people on this floor, which you already admonished him, him and everyone in this room not to do. So maybe somebody will regulate. You know that.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Decorum Assembly Member Gallagher, your point is well taken. Members, please be careful in your speech not to impugn the Motives of other Members. Mr. Berman, you may continue.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is currently no. No check on Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. only people who do whatever he demands that they do. But not here, not in California. California is responding to this emergency by empowering our voters with transparency. With respect for our independent Commission, but with an unwavering will to act.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    I respectfully request your aye vote on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Berman. Assemblymember Lackey, you are recognized.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the privilege to share with you a very powerful perspective. What we're spending time on at this particular moment, to me, is a bit disappointing. I will tell you that right now, what this body needs is to build trust with its constituency. Polls have overwhelmingly indicated that there's a lack of trust.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    And what we're considering on doing is feeding that lack of trust. You know, I had a very respected colleague that I spoke with just recently who told me that this is all political.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    You can define it as you wish, but I can tell you, no matter what your position is on this thing, and we're going to be talking a lot about it, and there's going to be a lot of blah, blah, blah. But I'm telling you, when it comes down to it, does this enhance trust with our people?

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    We all admit that gerrymandering is controlled by people who have something to benefit. That is not what our people want. That's been very clearly stated by their vote. So why, no matter what the justification is, why would we engage in behavior that we know is considered unacceptable by those who elect us?

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    I would ask for you to please reflect on that because it's very meaningful. And I know that we can be distracted by a lot of influencers in this institution, a lot of people that we admire and respect. But when it comes down to it, it's a mirror that we have to respond to. Please think about that.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    Please think about is what we're doing building trust with our constituency. I think you know what the answer to that is. When we engage in supporting gerrymandering, please resist it, and please think about what you're doing. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Lackey. Assemblymember Wallis, you are recognized.

  • Greg Wallis

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, I rise today in strong opposition to ACA 8 not simply because of what it does, but because of what it represents. ACA represents a tit for tat strategy. It's a reactive move that erodes our credibility, not just here at home, but on the national and international stage.

  • Greg Wallis

    Legislator

    If we abandon the independent redistricting process that Californians created. We don't just lose a tool, we lose trust. Our citizens. Redistricting Commission was born from voter demand for fairness and transparency.

  • Greg Wallis

    Legislator

    While drawing our current maps, the Commission held hundreds of public meetings, reviewed tens of thousands of comments, and drew maps that reflect people and communities, not politicians and their preferences. That's not just good governance, it's a model for the nation. Some point to Texas as a justification for this proposal. But California doesn't follow. We lead.

  • Greg Wallis

    Legislator

    We don't mirror dysfunction. We set the standard. Former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger called gerrymandering the cancer of politics. He championed the Commission because he believed in a system that puts voters first. That belief still matters. I urge you, no vote.

  • Celeste Rodriguez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember. Assemblymember Lowenthal, you're recognized from the Majority Leader's desk.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Speaker. I love you, dad. I've been deeply torn by the national redistricting debate that is engulfed California.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Beyond its vastly consequential political implications, this issue has profoundly impacted me personally because indelibly seared in my consciousness is the memory of my father working tirelessly over decades to create the independent redistricting system about which we now debate. By way of background, my dad, a community psychologist, was elected to the California State Assembly in 1998.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    He ran for public office with the principal goals of restoring public trust in political institutions and ensuring that elected officials listened to their constituents. To effectuate those ideals, he believed that the independent redistricting system was necessary. So in 2002, on this very floor, he introduced a constitutional amendment, ACA 19, to create an independent redistricting Commission.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    But his attempt received no support and it died. Undeterred, he reintroduced the independent redistricting Commission concept once again in the Assembly. But that effort, too failed. And then, in 2006, as a state Senator, he reintroduced the concept as SCA3. And for the first time ever, the concept of independent redistricting passed one of our bicameral bodies.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    However, as described by Common Cause, quote, somewhere in the one minute walk from the Senate Clerk's office to the Assembly clerk's office, SCA3 was lost for just long enough to miss key deadlines to keep the Bill alive.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The SCA's failure was devastating, but my dad's unwavering effort paved the way for the electorate to adopt an independent redistricting Commission two years later. But his work did not end there. Upon going to Congress in 2012, the first piece of legislation he introduced was HR 2978.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The let the people draw the lines act, this legislation would have required that all states establish independent redistricting commissions. Tragically, the legislation was met by political headwinds and died.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    But despite that, my dad pressed forward on his quixotic request to establish reform on a national level because he knew that a system in which some states had districts drawn independently and others don't was fundamentally unfair. Because Congress refused to hold a vote on his measures, he commenced advocating for reform in the courts.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    In 2015, he led an amicus brief in support of Arizona's right to form an independent Commission. And then in 2017, he led an amicus brief in Gill v. Whitford, which he asked the Supreme Court to declare political gerrymandering to be unconstitutional.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Although the court did not do so, Justice Kagan, in an opinion by Justices Ginsburg, Breyer, and Sotomayor, cited my dad's brief writing, the congressional brief describes a cascade of negative results from excessive partisan gerrymandering, indifference to swing voters and their views, extreme political positioning designated to placate the party's base and and fend off primary challengers, the devaluing of negotiation and compromise, and the impossibility of reaching pragmatic.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Bipartisan solutions of the nation's problems. I vigorously agree with the evils of gerrymandering described in my dad's brief and cited by Justice Kagan. That notwithstanding, because Texas has now shamelessly affected the national balance of power, our nation's democracy is faced with the exigency of existential dimensions.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    If unaddressed Texas actions, which occurred without the vote of its populace will disenfranchise Californians, and we must not allow Californians voices to be silenced. It is imperative that Californians have a voice in selecting the political party that controls Congress in 2026. The most fundamental concept in our democracy, upon which the collective value system is predicated, is fairness.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Californians vote in 2026. Our votes must be made on a level playing field. This constitutional amendment ensures that we have that balanced field. We must all continue to press Congress to create a national system that eliminates unconstrained political redistricting. But until that occurs, fair representation for Californians cannot exist without this measure.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    So today I proudly join with my father, the architect of this Commission, in urging its temporary suspension. I respectfully ask for your Aye vote on ACA.

  • Celeste Rodriguez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember. Assemblymember Quirk-Silva. You are recognized.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members. I also stand in support of ACA8 colleagues. We are living through a dramatic and historic moment, a moment to stand up for a democracy. One that will shape our future.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    For generations across the country, we have witnessed efforts to manipulate district lines, not to represent people, but to cling to power, to silence communities, and to steal representation. We saw this in Georgia, where three congressional seats were taken midterm through redistricting.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    We see it again in Texas, where five seats were carved out at the request of President Trump, all without giving voters a voice. But here in California, we have chosen a different path. Not to steal, not to rig, not to silence. We have chosen to let the people decide, to let them vote on the California maps.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    The California redistricting plan is about fairness. It's about trust. So when critics cry power grab, let us be clear. The plan is not a power grab. It is a power return, returning power back to the citizens of California. We did not start this fight. We did not force this issue.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    It was forced upon us by a President who has threatened, cheated, and tried to steal congressional seats to cling to power. Do not waste your breath scolding those of us who refused to roll over for partisan maps that divide our communities a bully.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    And yes, our President acts as one, uses power to intimidate, to harm, and to cheat. He has shown a pattern of refusing to accept the results of free and fair elections in 2020. He falsely claimed victory. When he does not get what he wants, he shouts, he insults, and lashes out like a spoiled child.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    If you claim to care about justice and fairness, then answer this. Where is your outrage when states silence voters by carving up districts for partisan gain? Where is your outrage when working families, seniors, veterans, and marginalized communities are pushed to the sidelines?

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    And as they will be with the President's new Executive order just this week to prohibit mail in ballots, my colleague from San Diego says actions speak louder than words. On this point, we agree. California's action is clear. We are showing the nation how to rise above partisan bickering and to stand for democracy.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    We are showing that the people, not the politicians, should choose their representatives. We will not stand idly by as a bully screams and threatens. We will fight every step of the way to protect our democracy. Why? Because this is what our nation was founded on.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    History will remember that when democracy was tested and California chose fairness, transparency, and the people's voice. You can whine and complain or you can stand with democracy, but you cannot do both. As President Lincoln reminded us, elections belong to the people. It's their decision.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    As Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said, real change, enduring change, happens one step at a time. And as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Taught us, the Time is always right to do what is right. Today, California is drawing a line in the sand.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    We are standing boldly with the people and today I ask for your support for ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Quirk-Silva. Assemblymember Ta. You, you are recognized.

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to ACA A. ACA A seek to destroy democracy and violating California constitution. I think you all heard about my personal story. I left the country in 1982 at the age of 19 and I came here with my family for freedom. And until today, the country that I. Left.

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    More than 30 years ago doesn't have any fair election. The country had been ruled by one party and that party, they make their own laws and they been violated. All lost over time. And it hooked me and my family and my community for what happening here in California.

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    I still remember two and a half years ago when I took an old office with all of you, my first office here. We are blessed that we follow California State institution. I understand a lot of you have different opinions from the current federal Administration and other states. However, what did we have in our office?

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    We may have different opinions, different ideas, but at the end of the day we have one goal, to serve the people in California.

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    California has been very proud of independent citizen commission for the last 15 years. And for the last several days we have built about election and we didn't have even 30 days for community inputs. That is outrageous, unbelievable. A lot of residents and community members in my district, they've been calling me.

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    They feel they really frustrated, they didn't know what to do. They asked me what is going on here. And you all know that in my Assembly District, heavily, heavily immigrant communities and a lot of us, we came here for freedom. So we really honor the fairness because the country that we left has no fair election whatsoever.

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    So I urge you, I urge you all to listen to the will of the people that the people that we've been serving. Why do we need to follow other state? We elected by the people who live in California. We are elected by the people of California.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • Tri Ta

    Legislator

    With that I ask you to have a no vote on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Ta. Assembly Member Zbur, you are recognized.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, I rise today to express my full throated support for ACA 8. Members, we must act today with an unfaltering commitment to our democracy. Let's be clear, today we are responding to a serious emergency for our country. Today's vote is an act of patriotism.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    The vote today is about protecting health care for millions of our people. It's about making people feel safe again. All our people feeling safe again instead of fearing that they'll be snatched off the street with no warning. It's about protecting reproductive choice and safeguarding our planet.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And it's about standing up and fighting an unprecedented and exigent march towards dictatorship. You know, my dad fought for this country in the Korean War. He fought and had rheumatic fever and spent his life with health care issues because of that and died an early death.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    He enlisted in the Air Force because of his love for our country and his love for our democracy. He would be turning in his grave if he understood what Donald Trump was doing today. When I look into my kids eyes and hopefully my grandkids eyes in the future, I don't want to regret that we didn't fight hard enough for them.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I want them to know that today was an important day for our country, an important day for our democracy, an important day for the United States of America that we love so much. I want them to know that we fought for them. We fought for their future.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    We did everything in our power to assure that they could live in a democracy in the same way that we have lived in a democracy for over 250 years that we fought for our family, we fought for freedom.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    We must give the next generation and the generation after that the same benefits of our democracy that we have had. So, on behalf of my father, of my kids, my future grandkids, of all of our kids, of all of our future grandkids, I respectfully ask for an aye vote on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Zbur. Leader Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I want to start by saying I thank your father for his righteous fight. And they culminated in the vote of the people that created our Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission. And it's in that spirit that I really want to encourage everybody that we should stick with that. And I want to start by saying what this is not about. It is not about Texas.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And actually, you all just conceded that by your vote this morning when you amended ACA 8 to take out Texas as a condition. And that this bill that you are voting on right now doesn't have Texas as a condition and commits California to going back to gerrymandering.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And you should really think twice before you go ahead and, and do that today. It's about power, we know that. iI's about power on both sides, rigging congressional districts to get partisan results. That's what a gerrymander is. Now, the Governor says it's about fighting fire with fire.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And what I want to submit to you all today is that fighting fire with fire is the problem. It's not the solution. President Trump is fighting fire with fire. He saw how government was weaponized against him with the Democratic majority in Washington, D.C. in his first term.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    He saw how states like Illinois and Massachusetts, Hawaii, have severely gerrymandered their congressional districts in ways that ensure more Democratic members are elected. And he seeks to do the same thing in Texas. He is wrong to do so. Let me repeat again, he is wrong to do so. Gavin is fighting fire with fire.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    So now he's pushing this redistricting plan, this Gavin-mander, illegally against the Constitution, as we pointed out time and time again in the Committee hearing. Well, the one Committee hearing we had on policy grounds. He's violating the Constitution and the clear will of the voters who've already spoken twice.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    We really don't need to ask them a third time, guys. Twice they told us they want independent redistricting, fair representation. But where does it end? You move forward today and you have the power to do so. You can do that. And Gavin can move forward. He's the Governor. He has the power. Greg Abbott has the power in Texas.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    You move forward, fighting fire with fire. What happens? You burn it all down. And in this case, it affects our most fundamental American principle, representation. Wasn't that the battle cry of our founding forebears? No taxation without representation. But the people's right to representation is exactly what will be sacrificed when we continue down this road.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    When after you do it, Missouri does it, or Indiana does it, Colorado's talking about doing it. At the end of that, the parties will determine who represents, and the people will be powerless to elect their own representatives. And we've already seen evidence of that in how some of these districts are proposed to be drawn.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    There's really only one way to stop it. Someone has to refrain from striking back and show a better way. And with that, I would like permission to read some very wise words that.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Without objection? Without objection.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    You have heard it said, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you, do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    You have heard that it was said, you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be the sons of your Father who is in heaven.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    For he makes the sun rise on the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust. You therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Today I'm submitting to you. Let us turn the other cheek. Let us show the better way.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    What more powerful statement will we have if Republicans and Democrats together said, enough is enough? We're not going to do this. And Texas, you shouldn't do it either.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Leader Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    One last point. I'm sorry. Our democracy will persist as long as we fight back. And if there is one weakness that we have right now in our republic is that legislators are not standing up to executives of their own party.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Leader Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And that's what we need to do today.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Leader Gallagher. Assembly Member Carrillo, you are recognized.

  • Juan Carrillo

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members, I rise in support of ACA 8. This is a rough position that our country and our democracy is in these days.

  • Juan Carrillo

    Legislator

    Leaders in this sea and across the country have time and time again proven that they are willing to bend, stretch, and outright break the law if it means they are gaining more power. They are unashamedly trying to change the rules in the middle of the game, undermine our institutions, and chess flat cheat because they know that is what it will take for them to have a chance to win. I urge you to support this measure, to give our constituents and our state a chance to fight with even odds.

  • Juan Carrillo

    Legislator

    If at halftime, one team decides they're going to play the second half with 15 players instead of 11, we can disagree and cry foul all we want. But if we play the second half by the same old rules with 11 players, we put our team and the people we're playing for at a huge disadvantage. And for what? Pride?

  • Juan Carrillo

    Legislator

    Principle? No Members. There is far too much at stake. They have made that painfully clear. Obviously, all of us on this floor would rather not be spending our time on this issue. There is certainly no shortage of pressing issues our constituents need us to address. But the unfortunate reality is that this President has manufactured this issue.

  • Juan Carrillo

    Legislator

    And I would argue that there is no issue more pressing than ensuring Californians get the opportunity to play by the same rules as the rest of the country, even if we don't like what those rules are. Members, I urge you, aye vote on ACA 8. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Carrillo. Assembly Member Mark Gonzalez, you are recognized.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members, I rise today in strong support of ACA 8, the map that leads to you. Because this is not just about redistricting. It is about the survival of our democracy. I was born in Mcallen, Texas, where voter suppression wasn't theory, it was reality. I saw neighbors turned away at the polls.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I saw families silenced. I saw entire communities erased from the map. As a Latino, I know exactly what it looks like when politicians draw racist maps to hold power, when they decide some voices count and others do not. That memory never leaves you.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And now I see Trump and his allies running the same playbook across Texas, across Florida, across this country. They cannot win on ideas. They cannot win on compassion. They cannot win on the merits. So what do they do? They change the rules. They rig the lines.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And as our Texas Democratic colleagues said yesterday, they shield their racism with their party line. That is not patriotism. That is oppression with a ballot in its hand. This is an emergency. Trump has already shown us the length he will go.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    He sent ICE agents to the schools where our children learn, the churches we pray, the fields where we work, to intimidate, to divide, and to silence dissent. He weaponized fear against immigrant families because he knows cruelty is cheaper than compassion. He tore families apart not to keep our country safe, but to score political points. California protects families, we do not divide them.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And look at health care. Trump's big ugly bill ripped $900 billion out of Medicaid just to line the pockets of the wealthy few. That is not reform. That is robbery. It threatens coverage for 3 million Californians, puts our seniors at risk, and sends rural hospitals to their graves.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Seniors, children, working families left with nothing. That's not policy, that is punishment. This is life and death. And yet, while they strip our people of health care, while they weaponize immigration raids, while they tilt the scales of democracy, what they fear most is not us. What they fear most is the people. This is why ACA matters.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    This measure does not force maps on anyone. It gives California a choice and lets the people hold the pen and draw their future. So I ask, why are Republicans so afraid of the people? Why are they so afraid of democracy itself? Every state in America should have independent redistricting. Every voter should have a choice.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    But until they do, California cannot and will not play by rigged rules. If Texas wants to carve up districts to keep their wannabe dictator in power, we will not bow. If Florida wants to silence voters of color, we will not sit quietly. Because when democracy is attacked, silence is surrender.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And California has never been and will never be a state that surrenders. California will fight back. Because this is not just about the maps, this is about dignity. This is about whether a Latino child in Texas, a black family in Florida, or an immigrant community in California has a voice in their own democracy.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Members, history is watching. Our communities are watching. And they will remember not just what we said in this chamber, but whether we had the courage to act. ACA 8 is that act. It's not just a bill. It's a shield. A shield against racist maps, a shield against voter suppression, a shield for democracy itself. It's not just a policy.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    It's a promise. A promise that democracy in California will not be dictated by the hand of tyranny, but written by the will of the people. I did not come to this floor, like many of you, with a polite request. I came with a call. A call to conscience, a call to courage, and a call to history.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Democrats fight to survive. Republicans fight to dominate. And when you fight to dominate, you stop at nothing. You cheat, you rig, you kill democracy in the process. Because democracy may bend, but here in California, it will not break. Not on our watch, not on this floor, not in this state. [Spanish] I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Mark Gonzalez. Assembly Member Bonta, you are recognized.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members. I rise today on behalf of the beautiful people of 8018 of Oakland, Alameda and Emeryville. And as a proud co author of ACA 8, which would allow each and every Californian the opportunity to weigh in on our very future.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    The President and the congressional majority have been so focused on implementing the deeply unpopular policies of Project 2025 that they forgot about the will and needs of the people that they serve. Since the policies of the Federal Administration and that majority are so incredibly unpopular, they decided they needed to rewrite the rules to win.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    From Texas to Florida to Indiana, this Administration is pressuring governors to create new red districts to silence Americans nationwide. ACA 8 is a direct response to the life threatening policies that Trump and this majority Congress have taken. And this ACA 8 is our opportunity, the people's opportunity to empower Californians to neutralize that threat.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Californians are witnessing for the firsthand the very devastating effects of this President. See, that's why we must treat this like the emergency that it is now. Illness and suffering have no party preference. And the lives of people in these districts are our collective responsibility.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    So I want to remind you, as chair of the Assembly Health Committee, what is at stake. Just this week, our Committee has gotten to hear from the public, from our agencies, from health care facilities across the state, from our advocates, what HR1, Trump's big ugly bill will have, what kind of impact that will have.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    How it will ensure that $900 billion in Medicaid funding to pay for tax breaks for the ultra wealthy. How these tax cuts will take care of out of reach, take care out of reach of many of our seniors, children and families. How over 3 million Californians could lose their medical coverage under the new Republican provisions passed.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    How over 100 Planned Parenthood clinics across the state may be forced to close their doors, robbing 22,000 people a month, a month, of reproductive care, STI testing, cancer screenings, of women's health care, and put out of reach for decades, for the first time, over 1 million Californians who rely on those services annually.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Let's be reminded of the fact that our hospitals, our rural hospitals as well, Kern Valley Healthcare District, Oroville Hospital, Fairchild Medical Center, and the countless other health care facilities that are scraping by as the Trump cuts away at crucial funding for them.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    How this impacts every single one of our health care systems, decimating our ability to provide care for millions of Californians. So when we talk about what is at stake today, what is at stake is the very lives of our constituents. We cannot be mistaken about that.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    So today we must ensure that every Californian has the ability to be protected to be represented in Congress and to continue to stand up against the attacks on our democracy wherever they may rise.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    And I just have to say this as a woman, the never ending executive orders, the insistence on basically taking us back to a time when women have no voice, when our people have not the ability to love who they want to love and marry who they want to marry, and have that be recognized and be able to have the care that they need, whether that be abortion care or basic health care.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    That is the world that this majority Congress is trying to turn us back to. And I absolutely refuse to stand here on this green carpet and let Congress and this Trump Administration do that to us, do that to Californians, do that to this country. So make no mistake. We are taking these actions because we are in unprecedented times.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Absolutely. And we must take protective action. With that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Bonta. Assembly Member Demaio, you are recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Gavin Newsom's corrupt redistricting scheme is worse than snake oil. It's arsenic to our democracy. You stand here, he's out there pontificating that in order to save democracy, we must destroy it. In order to empower the people, we must silence them and strip power from the Citizens Redistricting Committee.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    No one is going to fall for this. The voters want citizens to draw the lines, not politicians. You sit here and say, let the voters decide. They have already decided in 2010 over your objection, over the political class's objection. They gathered signatures and they put an initiative on the ballot that said, enough is enough. No more gerrymandering.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    They saw the ill that gerrymandering represents to our democracy. They saw the corruption. They saw the lack of transparency. They saw the bribery, the vote rigging, politicians carving out communities, silencing voices. And they said, enough. No more gerrymandering. In California, our voters are just, well, they're more advanced than other states voters.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    They got it right a lot earlier. They gave us a gold standard in the Citizens Redistricting Commission. And what you're doing is saying, no, we don't care what they said in 2010. We are not listening to them.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    What they voted for, to strip this body of the power that you are now apparently exercising in violation of the state constitution. The fact that we're even talking about redistricting on this floor today is a violation of the oath to uphold the state constitution.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    The fact that we're voting on a map today purportedly drawn up by the Legislature. It's in violation of Article 21. You don't possess the authority to to do this. The voters already decided and took you out of the process. But here we are today.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Here we are today violating the state constitution by even voting on these three items. You know what we've witnessed in the last three weeks? This circus, is exactly underscoring the wisdom of the voters in 2010.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Let me go through the differences between what they created with the independent citizen redistricting Commission and what all of you have shown you're capable of in the last three weeks. Citizens draw the map under the citizens redistricting process. Under this process, politicians are manipulating the lines.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Under the Redistricting Commission that the citizens created, all of their meetings are open meetings. Under their rules, the commissioners are barred from having any conversation ex parte. You lawyers in the room know what that means. You're not allowed to take proposals or talk about lines or draw maps.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    All the map drawing occurs in real time on camera, in open session. We know that these maps were drawn behind closed doors by a bunch of political consultants and yet none of you are willing to put your names or reveal the names of who drew the maps. The Citizens Commission has to do it on a nonpartisan basis.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    You are openly admitting you're doing it for partisan advantage. Citizens on the...

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Demaio. Assembly Member Demaio, you're out of order. Please do not impugn the motives of Members. Thank you.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Citizens on the Redistricting Commission are barred for 10 years for seeking, from seeking any election, county, state or federal. We know that legislators that are involved in this process are actively preparing campaigns to run for these districts. The citizens process created competitive districts where voters voices are paramount and determine the outcome of the election.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    The maps that you're trying to impose are not competitive. And in fact, you take rural voters and you shove them in with urban voters to dilute their voice. How undemocratic. You want to talk about stripping people of of their voice?

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    I heard my colleague from Los Angeles and many of you say we're doing this to protect health care.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    We're doing this because California is losing money. I wish you fought harder to solve the problems of this state as hard as you're fighting for some of these congressional districts for yourself and your colleagues.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    I wish you would fight to actually solve real problems happening here in California that actually matters. Look, the voters are ultimately going to be forced to decide this again. I think that once they understand what's going on, they will vote you down. Now I know you're trying your hardest with a dishonest ballot title.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    To deprive them of a fair election.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Demaio. Thank you, Assembly Member.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Schultz, state your point of order.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Yes, I would strongly encourage my colleague to adhere to the rules of this body. I have a copy of those rules if you'd like to read it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you. Assembly Member Schultz. Point is well taken. Assembly Member Bryan, you are recognized.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. Speaker and colleagues, I rise in strong support of ACA 8. And like at least 2/3 of you in this room, I read the Constitutional amendment which makes it very clear that we are not approving any maps in this body. We are giving the voters the decision. Something that isn't happening in Texas.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    And even doing that was something we had to debate fiercely. California's responsibility to Californians and Californians who responsibility to this country. We didn't want to be in this situation. The authoritarian in the White House put us in this situation when he used House Republicans in Texas to disenfranchise vulnerable people. After those maps in Texas are approved.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    A Latino voice in Texas is worth one third of the representation as a white voice. A black voter in Texas is worth one fifth of the representation of a white voter in Texas. I didn't say three fifths. There was no compromise. I said one fifth.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    That is the kind of gerrymandering, that is the kind of theft that they are perpetuating. And we can't just sit by and let it happen. We won't just sit by and let it happen, but that doesn't mean we lose ourselves.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    That's why when I was chair of the Elections Committee, I authored an update to the Fair Maps act that prevented incumbency from being a consideration in map drawing. And every single Republican on this floor voted against it.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    That's why I authored legislation calling for independent redistricting commissions on school boards and counties and special districts all throughout the state. And every Republican in this House voted against it. How convenient to switch your tone when you are now on the line.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    When we are stepping up and speaking the way Californians deserve for us to stand up and fight because we are tired of being the punching bag of this country. When we freely give. When North Carolina is on fire, we show up. When a hurricane hits Florida, we show up. When Texas is flooding, we show up.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    We don't wait for Canada and Mexico to show up first like Texas did, supporting Los Angeles this year. We come immediately. When we pay $80 billion more in federal taxes than we get back, we don't complain. We know our role is to support others.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    And when the biggest disaster to ever hit our state hits and we ask for a portion of our own dollars back and you withhold it. We have to change our tone. We have to step up because your silence is deafening.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    When they took health care and food and veterans assistance and they made it harder for students to go to college and they put trillions of dollars in national debt and you said nothing that forced us to step into the void.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    When they held our number one public University hostage for $1.0 billion of California tax dollars and you have said nothing. We had to step into that void.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    You talk about fighting fire with fire and how we shouldn't do that while simultaneously a Member of your own caucus just yesterday asked the Department of Justice and Pam Biondi to investigate us criminally. I took that personally that you didn't say anything. We are not just going to sit by and let our democracy crumble here in California.

  • Isaac Bryan

    Legislator

    We're standing on business. And I respectfully ask for your Aye vote Assemblymember Bryan.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Gipson, you are recognized.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. That was a mic drop. I wasn't going to say anything, but two of my colleagues just said something about being silent that caused me to reflect on what I said on this floor over the 11 years that I've been on this floor.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    And let me just say and just repeat what I said since I've been on this green carpet from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Life begins in Life begins the moment you start being silent about the things that matter. In the end, you will not remember the words of your enemies but the silence of your friends.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    So being on this floor today, I cannot sit by and be silent on the things that matter. This is a defining moment in history in California.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    So I know we referenced our Governor multiple times on this floor, but I am proud of Gavin Newsom, who had the courage to stand up and be bold when a lot of governors refuse to stand up and be bold to stand up and let California to stand up and be bold and be courageous in this moment, saving democracy.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    Understand this, that our democracy in the United States is on life support right now. And it takes courage, courage to stand up and be counted. We are in a defining moment in America and I am so proud to be a Member of the California State Legislature right now that no other state is standing up and being counted.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    When this President, I am embarrassed. I am embarrassed to even call him President. Picking on the most vulnerable people among us, sending in ICE agents to snatch our students wearing masks. That's what happened in third world countries. How can we not stand up and do what we're doing?

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    It's About a third term doing something that no other President dared to do. It's about taking back. It's about changing the Constitution of the United States of America. And make no mistake about it, they didn't hide what they were trying to do. Right now. It's about Project 2025.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    And it's been said time and time again, if California do not do this, we are just handing over the Constitution of the United States of America. And it started with the the United States Supreme Court. It is about our human rights.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    So to my colleague who's not here, who talks about the phone calls that he received, and it's about him coming to this country, what is about the little old ladies who fought in the 60s and the 50s in order to get human rights, civil rights, women's rights, LGBTQ rights in this country, who can right now be taken away from us in this country, in the United States of America.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    It's about the next generation that we may not even have any black people serving in office to have representation. It's about 10 African American Members of Congress that could be wiped away in Congress if we don't stand up and be counted. And California stands in the way of that happening. So we cannot afford not to do anything.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    So I'm proud of Speaker Revis standing up and being counted and being bold and being in this time, making sure that California is counted. It's about making sure that we stand in the way of this man and his power. So yes, it's about ACA 8.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    It's about us walking out of this room today and holding our head up high for the next generation.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    We can make a difference, and we shall make a difference. Making sure that we save the democracy for not only for the next generations who will sit in this seat, stand on this floor, but it's about our grandchildren and the legacy that we will leave behind.

  • Mike Gipson

    Legislator

    So I'm asking for the 54 courageous Democrats because we already know what the other side won't do with a strong Aye vote, give.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Gipson, Assemblymember Dixon, you are recognized.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    Well, a lot has been said. It's been a very emotional morning, I think to bring the temperature down. I'm struck by what we're trying to do today with Acaid and I respectfully am opposed to it. A lot of things I was going to say have already been said.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    Just to remind everyone, the independent and thanks to your father, Mr. Speaker, the best words were said about the Independence of a citizen driven Committee to decide to draw the lines of the vote.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    So all this talk today about democracy does not do honor to Congressman or State Senator Lowenthal and Congressman Lowenthal, who fought for the rights of the people to have a voice in our democracy. What strikes me is yesterday, if I may read a portion of an editorial on the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Speaker.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Without objection.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    I'm a real practical, pragmatic person, so I'm seeing where problems happen and how we can fix problems. So the super majority in this Legislature is speaking loud, in loud terms, often rude, about democracy. You have democracy in your hands. You are in the super majority.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    It's the minority that is concerned about democracy and the signs of a lack of democracy. When commissions are being ignored, the voters are being ignored, the people are being ignored, the people who want their voices heard in an independent way. Yesterday's Wall Street Journal said, and I quote, the real House. This is the House of Representatives, Congress.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    We were just making reference to Democratic nightmare. This is all about numbers. Democrats could lose 10 seats in 2030 because voters are fleeing the blue states. Remind us all, California is a blue state. So let me give you the numbers. Start with the numbers. Between 2020 and 2024, California lost 1.4 million people. And where did they go?

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    They may have gone to Kansas. That is larger than the population of Kansas have left California. And that resulted in 2020 in the loss of four congressional seats in California. So you're fighting, the super majority is fighting to protect seats that you think are going away. You've already lost them. Why did you already lose those four seats?

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    And why are you continuing? Why is the other party continuing? Why is California losing population? Why is that affecting California? And the projection is in 2030, California will lose four more seats. Why? And also an additional fact I did not know, between 2020 and 2024, California's population under the age of 18 shrank by 523,000 people.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    We have to ask ourselves, why are people leaving California? It's because of laws that have been enacted in this state in the last 15 years that have driven out business, that driven out people for reasons related to education, the quality of education, quality of safety in our communities. They have left the state.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    They're going to other states which, whether it's Texas, whether it's Ohio, whether it's Florida, whether it's Nevada, they're going to other states because they do not like the policies that are coming out of this state.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    So until California and its representatives in this body begin to realize what is not connecting with the laws that are being passed and the People, the voters of California, all this histrionics today. All this. The sky is falling. Chicken Little. Democracy is failing.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    Democracy is being saved by people who realize it's not being represented by the super majorities that have been holding power in this state for the last 10 or 15 years. Look at our policy. But we can find $250 million for a special election when health care, when community safety prospect, Prop 36, wildfire management out of the budget.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    But $250 million magically appears to protect democracy. Democracy starts here. Keep people in California, keep our businesses in California, keep our families in California. And you know what? You'll have more votes probably, and more congressional representation.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Dixon. Thank you very much. Assemblymember Jackson, you are recognized.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker. Permission to have a Prop.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Jackson, we are not going to allow props today.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Not a problem. Mr. Speaker. I wanted to rise because it's hard to have a thorough discussion or debate in which today has been a very good debate. When we talk about the role of democracy, it simply cannot happen without a real consideration and a real review. Of.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    Our U.S. constitution and the Federalist Papers themselves to understand the real wisdom of our founders and just how much thought they put into all the different checks and balances that were necessary to ensure that this democracy can hold.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    And one of those things is found in the Federalist Papers number 10, where Madison specifically talks about the roles of the state. And over 200 years ago, Madison said that there will be a time. Where. A fractious leader will emerge and that fractious leader will begin to do things to consolidate power.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    There will be a time when the Executive and the legislative and the judiciary fail their constitutional responsibility to properly provide a check and balance. So Madison says, therefore is now up to the states to provide yet another stopgap to begin to hold on to slow down this fractious movement until the next election cycle.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    So there is something special that we are doing today. There is something very constitutional that we are doing today to ensure that we do our part of having the most fair election process as possible given the circumstances of the nation.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    And then in the Federalist Papers number 16, Hamilton says that at the end of the day, when our three branches of government may fail, even the actions of states may fail. But Hamilton says something beautiful. He says when it all else fails, that the number one protector of our democracy he calls the natural guardians.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    And those natural guardians are the people themselves.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    And so an Assembly constitutional amendment says the Legislature has a recommendation for you natural guardians that we believe is important enough for you to consider. But at the end of the day, this democracy is not ours. We are only your representatives.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    At the end of the day, the democracy and the preservation of this democracy lies in your hands. 30 seconds. Therefore, there's nothing more democratic, there is nothing more constitutional, there is nothing that fulfills both the letter and the spirit of our democracy than to allow the people of California to make the final say.

  • Corey Jackson

    Legislator

    I respectfully asked for an aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Jackson, Assemblymember Bennett, you are recognized.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. There have been many powerful, logical, cogent arguments made today. And so I hope my humble comments can just add a little bit.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    I would like to direct my comments to those Democratic advocates in our state who are questioning whether this is the right move for us to make, who are wondering whether this political effort to counter Texas is the appropriate thing.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    But I'd like to say to them, let's put this moment in national perspective, let's put it in global perspective, let's put it in historical perspective, and that is that there's always been a fundamental question, how do you transfer power? How do governments transfer power?

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    And it can be done by violent brute force, or it can be done by democratic actions. And our founding fathers, to their great credit, and I wish there were mothers there also, right, they sent us down on a path where we transfer power peacefully by following certain democratic rules and norms as we move on.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    And following those rules has been essential for us as we move. But today, in the world, in this country and in the world, we have autocrats that are desperately trying to consolidate their power by weakening democracy, by changing the rules of the game.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    And so to my friends out there that are questioning whether this is the right move, I want to say autocrats are counting on you to stand by and say, you know, I like the old rules. I want to play by the old rules. I don't like the new rules.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    And they're counting on you to do that while they consolidate power with their new rules. And it's a false scenario to say that we can defeat that, that we can win by holding onto the old rules while somebody consolidates power.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    A few decades ago, Russians had democracy, but Russians lost that democracy as autocrats and the oligarchs consolidated power. They only have to get enough to be at a tipping point. And now, today, and I want to compliment my colleague across the aisle who admitted that what Texas is doing is wrong. I really Admire that.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    But turning the other cheek is not the way to fight this particular situation. Russians turn the other cheek, and they no longer have the ability to fight back. Today, Texas is changing the rules in a way that weakens California's ability to have input on who controls the vast powers of the Federal Government.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    If Californians don't take this opportunity to block Texas's action, we come one step closer to losing our ability to block the autocrats and the oligarchs out there.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    We come one step closer to becoming a country dominated by those oligarchs, and one step closer to letting intimidation and deceit and false outrage that's paid for by the oligarchs with media outlets that put daily false outrage that appeals and confuses the voters of the United States.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    And we come one step closer to that kind of society if we don't take this very important step to counter this. Because once you lose, once you cross that critical threshold, you may never be able to go back to what we had.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    So, to my dear friends that are out there that have contacted me and say, I don't know, I hope you will remember and keep in mind the historical moment that this is here today. Thank you very much. I'll concede my 30 seconds and respectfully ask for the aye vote on ACA. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Bennett. Members, the drilling that you hear is not inside your head. It's actually taking place in the construction. I want to remind all Members that is not picked up on your microphones. Please continue. Assemblymember Elhawary, you are recognized.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Good morning, Mr. Speaker and Members. I rise in support of ACA 8 because the only reason we're here today is Donald Trump. And Republicans are terrified of voters. They know people aren't buying their lies, so they're trying to rig the rules and cheat the game at the same time. Trump has weaponized immigration to create fear.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    And what did Republicans in Washington do? They responded by giving ICE more money to tear even more families apart. In my district, that means neighbors who are being racially profiled American citizens who are picked up by federal agents just for the color of their skin. It means families who are too scared to leave their homes.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Families like my own, my Guatemalan mother and my Mexican stepfather, both American citizens who are afraid to leave their home because this is not about democracy. It's about intimidation and it's unconstitutional. And now Trump is repeating some of the ugliest times in our nation's history. He wants a census that excludes undocumented immigrants.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    The same way they tried to ensure that enslaved people were not fully counted back when they first created the Constitution. And as if that were not enough, he's also pushing to cancel mail in ballots, silencing millions of voters who depend on their right to vote.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    To those on the other side, explain how silencing voters is the same thing as protecting them. Or is it just about protecting your power at the federal level? So when Republicans stand up here talking about transparency or protecting voters, don't be fooled. The truth is, the crisis started in a Republican state.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    Texas lit a match, and California is simply leveling the playing field instead of waiting until Abbott and Trump burn our own house down. ACA 8 does not give us an advantage. It gives us fairness. And let's not forget, this is going to to the voters.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    So if you are opposing this, you are siding with hypocrisy and voter suppression because you want to talk about what's unconstitutional. You only want to talk about what's unconstitutional when it comes to what you believe is happening in California. But when it's the United States of America, you're okay with Trump mandering and Trump pandering.

  • Sade Elhawary

    Legislator

    I urge an aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you, Assemblymember Elhawary. Assemblymember Gabriel, you are recognized.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, colleagues, I rise today with sadness and also with conviction. And I think it's important, as many of our colleagues have said, that we take a moment to and step back and ask ourselves, how did we arrive at this moment?

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And I see it as I often do, through my lens as a parent, as a father of young kids. And I will tell you, everyone who has had the blessing of being a parent understands what is going on here. Start playing a card game with my five year old. He feels like it isn't going his way.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    He feels like he might lose. And so he starts to change the rules. And that's what we have, that is transparently what is happening with this President. He understands that his policies are not popular. He understands that people do not want him to continue to be able to be unchecked in Washington.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And so rather than change his policies or play by the rules, he's trying to change the rules. And they are moving forward in changing the rules in the most undemocratic fashion. And that has put those of us in California in a very difficult position. How do we respond? What do we do in this moment?

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And what we have from our colleagues on the other side of the aisle is saying, close your eyes, be willfully blind, ignore what is happening in the rest of the country, as if we in California are immune to that stand down, do nothing, unilaterally, surrender. But to me, there are deep moral implications to that unilateral surrender.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    There are real impacts to our people, to our population, to our planet and to our democracy. And so there are many of us that feel that California cannot stand idly by in this moment, will not stand idly by in this moment. We owe it to our children to stand up and be counted.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And so what do we do when we have these two arguments? Those who say California should do nothing, and those who say California should stand up and fight back? We do what is fundamentally the most democratic thing that we can do. We ask the people of the State of California to weigh in on that.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Our colleagues have sat here and lectured us about what the people want. They have sat here and told us, they talked to us repeatedly about democracy. Well, good. Let's let democracy decide.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    The one argument here to which they cannot rebut and will never be able to rebut is that the ultimate decision here rests with the people of the State of California. Donald Trump will not decide this. Gavin Newsom will not decide this. Congress will not decide this. This Legislature will not decide this.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    The people of the State of California will get to decide what they want to do at this pivotal moment in history. And that, to me, is what makes this the right approach. So we heard from our colleague from Westminster. He said, listen to the people. I agree. Let's listen to the people. Let's let the people vote.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Let's let the people have their moment to make this decision. They have the wisdom, they have the judgment. And I am confident that they will want to stand up and fight back to protect our democracy.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And with that, and in the spirit of giving our citizens and our voters the opportunity to make this consequential decision making, respectfully request an aye vote on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Gabriel, Assemblymember Solache, you are recognized.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members and to everyone watching out there, Americans, international community. This is not a Republican, Democrat or independent issue. This is an American issue. People have died, people have suffered to save democracy.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I assure you that if today we took a vote in this same floor and that board, that we all like to watch the outcomes of the votes.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    If we put a vote about the independent Commission taking their action every 10 years, it would be a unanimous vote because not only have the Republicans, but Democrats have acknowledged that that's the way to go. I agree. It's the gold standard that California has set for the nation.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    And as they say, as California goes, so does the nation. So I couldn't agree with you more, that we have to protect that in California for the sake of not only Californians, but for America.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    But, ladies and gentlemen, to our communities, our LGBT community, our immigrant community, we have to raise our voices for Californians and for America today.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Now, let's not forget that in this action, the Commission will continue doing the work so that we don't have to take any more votes, that they will continue doing the work after the 2030 process. This is a temporary approach to react to what's happening with other states. And so I agree with the minority leader.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    The President is wrong on this one, and Texas is wrong on this one. I agree with him wholeheartedly. And that's why I am proud, as I have had some concerns about this process, that California will continue to have its independent Commission process.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    But you see, ladies and gentlemen, and everyone here today, I was sent to Sacramento to represent almost 500,000 constituents. I proudly represent a high immigrant, undocumented community. Con mucho ruyo, con mucho corazon.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I'm here representing them and being a voice, because just this morning on Atlantic Boulevard in my City of Lynwood, at the barbershop, there's three ICE agents trying to force themselves into the barbershop. And once I'm done, I will happily, you know, drop that video for you to watch.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I'll airdrop it so you can all have it happened this morning in my own community. The very same people that send me to represent them, people who look like me, are being racially profiled and kidnapped on the streets on the way to work, accessing health care while taking their kids to school or even going to church.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    How disgusting is that? Immigrants are not the problem. Our diversity makes our state and our country strong. California's immigrant communities are vital part of this prosperity through all our nation. I will not sit back and watch ICE kidnap more members of my community. Our community. I ask all of us that we temporarily do this for America.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    People are watching not only locally, but internationally. And I bring not only my heart, my voice today to this Capitol to ensure that the 500,000 people that I represent in my community of Lynwood, Southgate, Maywood, Huntington Park, Walnut Park, Lakewood, Bellflower, and Paramount have a voice. I invite all of you to help protect America.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    This is not a Republican, Democrat, or independent issue. Let's save humanity. Let's save democracy and temporarily respond to this horrible situation that we're living. And then California will continue leading the way by protecting our independent Commission and our independent maps so that all Californians have a voice. And if some are leaving, we welcome you back.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    And those that want to leave other states, welcome to California.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    We have great beaches, great parks, and of course, some of the best restaurants that our community gets to offer. Thank you. Let's continue to lead. And America, we have your back. Gracias.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Solache, Assemblymember Patterson, you are recognized.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I'm going to take you up on this unique offer to talk about political parties. It's not something I like to do, but some of these comments like quote unquote, dropping to the knees of the President. What does that mean? I take offense to that.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    My grandpa used to say when something miraculous happened, not bad for swirling gases. What he was doing was mocking evolution. Piper wasn't an overly religious man. He loved God and he loved our nation. Especially as he defended it in the military for entire career. He was a man that believed in a higher power.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    He believed there were no coincidences these miracles were divine. Despite thousands and thousands of years of authoritarian governments, kings, dictators, it wasn't swirling gases that created our form of government. And our founders said as much when they declared us an independent nation.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    The Declaration of our Independence proclaims, the people are endowed by their Creator and our inalienable rights, which are not granted by the government, they are inherently bestowed upon us.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    I believe, as the Founders did in divine providence, meaning that I firmly believe any internal threats to our democracy, whether from the national level or right here in the chambers of the California State Assembly, that we will be okay. The Divine providence will secure inalienable rights to self determination.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    And despite attempts by this body or attempts by the Governor, from the moment he went unchallenged by Members on this floor, when he exerted so much power with no Democratic input, what did you do? Mention me sitting by idly? You sat idly by. And he chose to close schools. He closed businesses.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    And at least partially responsible for the pain and suffering you see in our streets. And we continue to see to this day. And guess what? To address my colleague from Los Angeles about Republicans in this body that sat idly by, I take great offense to that kind of stuff.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, when someone talks about what Republicans here have and haven't done. Please. Democrats have been in charge of this state for my entire natural life. I know as individual legislators, some of you have tried, but you gonna talk about sitting idly by as they say on X lol.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Democrats, maybe not as individuals, but as a ruling dictator party of this state for my entire life, are sitting idly by and have effectively done nothing that has resulted in a better education for our children. Has done nothing to effectively address the people laying in our street just blocks from this building.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    These things have gotten worse, especially since Democrats have taken full control of every lever of our government right here in California. I believe in democracy. Why? Because it's rooted in our fundamental inalienable right to be free. And you cannot take that away. And neither can Gavin Newsom.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    What this body is likely to do in a few minutes highlights the flaws of man. Many of you will vote not to turn the other cheek. You will vote under your own admission to fight back, to punch back, to fight fire with fire.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    I believe at the end of the day, despite your best efforts to participate in attempt to erode democracy, we will be fine.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    When history looks back, California will not succeed in its mutual goal of joining with entrenched partisan Democrats throughout our nation to throw out democracy in its fight for fire with fire because it cannot override the fundamental protections our founding documents guarantee us. History will not look proudly on this moment.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    It will look highly on potential changes to any map in this state. It's going to be frowned upon. And it certainly won't look highly on the partisan gerrymandered maps here in California. And those are the words from one of the co authors in Committee of this measure.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    I don't ever want to be lectured ever again by a Democrat anywhere that their party's the party of democracy. 30 seconds. Because what you're doing, even by amending this proposal this morning without any input, is showing you are no better. Democracy is flawed. Mankind is flawed. The measure is flawed and you know it.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    How many people in this body testified by Texas? The public got to know that you struck out the language this morning. I didn't even know it until I walked in the building. To even talk about Texas, no matter what Texas does, if they do nothing, you are asking the people to erode their rights.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Me, I ask for a no vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Patterson, Assemblymember Schultz, you are recognized.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, permission to read.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Without objection.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    The people will save their government if the government itself will allow them. You know, I thought as I've sat here, I want to first of all mention to my colleague from Lancaster, sorry, from Palmdale. I appreciated your comments at the beginning, sir.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I didn't raise my mic right away. I wanted to listen. I Wanted to listen to my colleagues speaking in favor of ACA 8. I wanted to listen to some of you who have concerns about ACA 8. I also want to thank our esteemed minority leader. We don't agree on much, but I appreciate your words today, sir.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    The President is wrong. He is wrong to be doing what he's doing. And your point about two wrongs not making a right and burning the entire House down? There's a lot of truth in that statement. I agree with you, sir. And yet, over the last week, I've struggled with this issue. I have consulted the Good Book.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I've spent time in thought and prayer at the cathedral. I've been trying to find the right answer on this issue. And the remarkable thing is, as I sat here on this floor listening and really giving thought to what we're being asked to do, it was this portrait that hangs above us that really centered my thoughts.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    The people will save the government. They will save themselves if the government simply allows them to do so. The words of probably one of the greatest presidents we ever had, a portrait that hangs over our chamber.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    A man who, with General Order 141, had to suspend habeas corpus and take unprecedented action because of the risks that face the Republic in an unprecedented time. We're absolutely in unprecedented times. I bring all this up to say that I'm not here to stand with righteous indignation. I'm not here to point fingers at any of you.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    But what I can say is the house is burning. Democracy is at risk. What is happening in Texas, what is happening across the country, is fundamentally wrong. I don't believe the answer to how we save democracy can be decided among the 119 legislators in our state capitol. I don't believe the Governor alone can make that answer.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    What I do believe, though, is we have to give the people the chance to weigh in on this matter. And that is exactly what ACA 8 does. I believe that this question should be returned to the people. And I'll simply close with 1.0.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Never in the course of history, in the State of California or in any state, have the people been directly given an opportunity to vote on a map. I believe that is democracy in its finest hour. Let the people respond and tell us how we should fight to continue saving democracy.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I will be voting I and I encourage everyone to vote I on ACA 8. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Schultz, Assemblymember Ahrens, you are recognized.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before I give remarks, I just wanted to mention that I'm a proud co sponsor of ACA 8. So when the opposition continues their unserious lawsuits, they know who to direct them towards. I rise in support of standing up and defending the rights of freedoms for all Californians and Americans.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    We must decisive, take decisive action to stand up to Donald Trump's unprecedented call for Republican led states like Texas and Florida to redraw the Congressional lines and unfairly rig the 2026 midterm elections for Republican politicians to benefit.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress passed their big ugly federal budget which is set to obliterate health care access for millions and already struggling Californians colleagues.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    Each and every single one of you in this room, regardless of political party, have tens of thousands of constituents who will lose health care because Donald Trump and Washington D.C. Republicans recently adopted that budget and Republican Congress Members passed this big ugly federal budget with which cuts hundreds of billions of dollars in funding to America's health system.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    Without any alternative plan to protect health access for anyone, how will your community's hospitals and health clinics benefit from the suffering of this federal budget, the result of massive divestment of federal dollars in health care? Trump's big ugly federal budget will indeed result in lives being lost.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    Donald Trump and MAGA extremist Republican politicians will make no plan to protect health care access for any Californians or any Americans.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    MAGA extremist Republicans in D.C. have decimated our health care in every corner of the United States for no reason and no alternative plan just to give tax cuts to their super wealthy campaign donors and millionaires like themselves.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    These Trump cuts will kick poor people off of their health care but also result in higher health insurance premiums for all of us because without health insurance we will have to get care at the most expensive place and time in whatever emergency rooms that are left in our communities.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    And now Americans are pissed off at Republican politicians for obliterating their access to health care. Trump is leading a republic Republican led states like Texas and Florida and demanding that they exert their state legislative power to unilaterally redraw their Congressional districts to make it easier for more Republican politicians to win Congressional seats.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    And what are we to do? We cannot sit by and let Donald Trump and Republicans rig the next election so that they cannot be held accountable and have no chance to be voted out or lose control of Congress. Heaven forbid they actually are held accountable by their failed policies in America.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    California is honoring our Constitution unlike Republicans and in Texas by defending our liberty and giving Californians a choice to defend themselves against Donald Trump's attacks on our country and our state I rise in support and ask all of my colleagues to join me in fighting back for all of California regardless of where you represent and stop the robbing of Californians rights, the robbing of our liberty and our lives.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    We must stop Trump, MAGA Republicans steal of our congressional and the desecration of our founding father's dream for a government by and for the people. I urge all of my colleagues, all Californians and all Americans to join California's efforts to defend ourselves against the rising tide of fascism and authoritarianism in this country.

  • Patrick Ahrens

    Legislator

    And I urge your aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Ahrens. Assemblymember Boerner, you are recognized.

  • Tasha Boerner

    Legislator

    Thank you. I rise in support of ACA 8, for this simple reason, Californians should be given the right to choose. The right to choose, to fight partisanship with partisanship, the right to do something rather than nothing, and the right to have a voice. Let's be clear.

  • Tasha Boerner

    Legislator

    There's only one reason a sitting President calls for states to stack Congress in his favor for five years. When our grandchildren look back in a few decades, I want Californians to be able to say that they had a voice, they did something and they had a choice. I respectfully urgent I vote on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Boerner, Assemblymember Ransom, you are recognized.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today because democracy is on the line. Freedom is on the line. Liberty and justice is on the line. Free and fair elections for all is on the line today. I don't know about anyone else, but I was raised to stand up for people who cannot stand up for themselves.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    We can't just be bystanders when bullies come to push us around, especially when people already don't have a voice. That's what the people elected us to do and that's what this is all about. We're not forcing anything down anyone's throat. We are giving Californians a choice.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    Do you want to bow down or do you want to fight back? ACA 8 gives the voters, the people that we represent, the decision making power. To those who suddenly have so much to say, I have to say that I have been baffled by the silence that we have heard. It's been very loud.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    Where was all of the noise when the President and Congress slashed federal funding, cut Medicaid, imposed tariffs that hurt small businesses? Where was the noise? There's been complicity as the Constitution has been undermined as partisan gerrymandering. Maps have been pushed on the people in Texas, which ultimately affects the entire United States.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    Where was all the noise while America was being hijacked today with all of the objections and with all of the noise, I'm clearly concerned that it is our job to stand up and to speak out.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    We must ask, can you tell us, please, what I've not heard is why are we so afraid to give the voters a choice? What are we so afraid of? And we should also ask, with all the tears to protect the President's gerrymandering plan, where were all the tears for the poor people, the people who have been silenced?

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    People are suffering and dying because we need to lead. People are not leading and that hurts America. So we have a voice and we have a choice. Do we deny the citizens a chance to have democracy, freedom, free and fair elections and liberty and justice for all?

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    Like we say when we stand up and we pledge allegiance to this same flag when we come into this chamber, this is about citizens that are being terrorized. When those who are being bullied need someone to stand up, California is not going to sit down and be a bystander.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    If you want to be taken seriously, you need to be able to explain to us why you don't want to give this to the voters. The rules have been changed and that means we have to act accordingly. We have a choice.

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    Do we want to allow the entire nation to be disenfranchised or do we ask the citizens of California to lock arms with us and to march forward to save democracy in the world where the US has now become an authoritarian government and has adopted the strategies of dictatorship to rig a system?

  • Rhodesia Ransom

    Legislator

    I say that it's our duty to give it to the voters so that we can have a chance to fight back on behalf of the citizens of the United States. And I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Ransom. Assemblymember Avila Farias, you are recognized.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise as a proud co author of ACA 8.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    For years, Trump's Administration has targeted our state, holding California wildfire and disaster relief, hostage taking food out of the family's mouths by cutting SNAP benefits, terrorizing immigrant communities with brutal raids and no due process, and kidnapping our community members, imposing tariffs that have punished the working families.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    And now Trump and his allies, his domestic terrorists, are trying to dismantle democracy with California's redistricting proposal. We're not racing to the bottom. We're drawing the line. While Republican led states rampartisan maps through in secret, we're doing the opposite. Voters made it clear they want independent redistricting, not partisan power grabs.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    For those who know me, I have dedicated much of my public service to protecting the right to vote and to ensure that historically disadvantaged communities enjoy a voice at the table. Every state should have an independent redistricting commission. And guess what? This measure, we still do. But let's be clear. We're also defending against the coordinating power grab.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    This isn't politics as usual. This is an emergency. This is an emergency for our state. This is an emergency for our country. It's an emergency to protect our democracy. California will always defend the right to vote. And we will. And the will of the people. Unlike Texas, we won't be silenced. That voice.

  • Anamarie Farias

    Legislator

    We will send the issue to the ballot box where it belongs. California voters will see maps. California voters will decide. California will not back down. We will protect our vote, our voice and our values. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Avila Farias. Assemblymember Michelle Rodriguez, you are recognized.

  • Michelle Rodriguez

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, I wasn't going to talk on this Bill today and I'm still not. We just needed a little break and get our minds on something else.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Rodriguez. Assemblymember Davies, you are recognized.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, I just have a simple question for you. In your hearts, do you honestly believe this ACA 8 is the right thing to do? For a second, let's ignore the partisan noise. I think we can all agree gerrymandering anywhere is wrong. It's not hard or controversial to say that.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Imagine what we could Fund with $235 million.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    We could use pardon decorum in the chamber. Please, let's respect the speaker.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We could use this money to help with the state's insurance crisis or pay raises for first responders. Members, let me remind you that our independent redistricting commission held 196 public meetings, had 3,800 public comments and received 32,000 written submissions.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Compare that to the process where Californians had four days to view the public maps and submit comments through a portal and had one Assembly hearing to voice their support and opposition. That wasn't even put into record. Has anyone in this chamber ever seen the 16,000 written comments we have supposedly received on this issue? Anyone?

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Need I remind you that voters approved the Commission drawing congressional districts via Prop 20 with 61% of the votes. Californians gave our government a mandate that it should be everyday citizens who will be given the power to draw fair maps using these six principles.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Population equality, compliance with Federal Voting Rights Act, geography and geodic geographic integrity and geographic compactness. And lastly to nest State Senate and Assembly districts into compact areas. Democrats, Republicans and Independents Came together believed politicians should not draw their own maps. On a personal note, let me tell you how ACA 8 will affect Assembly District 74.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    This proposal splits my Assembly District into three congressional districts and divides communities of interest and goes against the principles of geographic integrity. That's absurd. Communities of interest are supposed to remain together. What does a desert community have in common with a suburban city? You have chosen to stifle the voices of California.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    You say you know what is best. Well, I believe that their voices matter. I hear. Listen. Listen to the people. Well, that's what I do. I listen to the people. It's not my agenda, it's their agenda. Through LCMS, I sent out a five question poll. My district is the most purple and balanced district in the state.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    So you should be all interested in these results. The first question that was asked stated, currently California has an independent citizens redistricting Commission that draws election district maps. Do you think redistricting should be done by an independent Commission? The Legislature are unsure. These answers might surprise you.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    65% of Democrats favored an independent Commission, 96% of Republicans favored an independent Commission, and 92% of independents favored an independent Commission. The second question that was asked stated, how important is it that the redistricting division be made through a process that is open to the public and allows for community input?

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    78% of Democrats said very important, 97% of Republicans said very important, and 96% of independents said very important. At the beginning of this year and session, it was very clear what the concerns of Californians were. 30 seconds they needed from this Legislature. I think everyone agreed the people know what's right and what's wrong.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    And in my district they have responded and told me, Mr. Speaker, question to the author.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Without objection, your time is about to elapse.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Yep. Just to finish up here, my final question to the author is, did you or do you know anyone that signed an NDA? Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam. Thank you, Ms. Davies. Assemblymember Rogers, you are recognized.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker. I agree with many of my colleagues. We know that gerrymandering is bad for representative democracy. Our system was built on checks and balances.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    And unfortunately, right now we have a temu dictator in the White House and we have a Congress that has completely abdicated their responsibility to act as that check on that dictator.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    And I do not for a moment want us to leave here with sound bites of sanctimonious pearl clutching from my colleagues about protecting Californians without making sure we talk about what our Legislature has been doing this year to protect Californians.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    Not one of my colleagues across the aisle has condemned the President for turning our military against our own people in LA and in DC, not one of my colleagues across the aisle condemned the President for sending armed thugs to a press conference that the Governor and the Legislature was having last week in an act of intimidation.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    Not one of my colleagues across the aisle has condemned the President for being in the Epstein files. Not one of my colleagues across the aisle has condemned the President for withholding funds for fire victims in California. If we're going to talk about protecting Californians, we're going to talk about how this Legislature is protecting Californians.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    To quote and paraphrase Ben Franklin, it's a democracy if they choose to keep it. Every time we go to the ballot box, we get to choose if we are going to fight for democracy. And this November, Californians and Democrat Democrats in California are going to fight for democracy.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Rogers. Assemblymember Fong, you are recognized.

  • Mike Fong

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise as a proud co author of ACA 8 and its importance in defending our democracy. We didn't ask for this fight and we need to fight back against President Trump's power grab. This is more about defending our democracy and making sure that every voice counts.

  • Mike Fong

    Legislator

    This is our chance to stand up and raise our voices to fight for our democracy. The stakes couldn't be higher. The President Federal Administration is denying Wildfire Relief, targeting our diverse immigrant communities, targeting our number one public University with an extraction request of $1 billion and pulling millions off of health care.

  • Mike Fong

    Legislator

    We will stand up and we will defend the Voting Rights Act and protect our historically marginalized communities. We must fight fire with fire and we will let the voters decide. That is democracy at its best. I strongly urge, and I vote on ACA 8. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Fong. Members, this is a last call to raise your microphone if you are going to be speaking on ACA 8. Last call, please. Assemblymember Jeff Gonzalez, you are recognized.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Colleagues, today I rise in complete and utter disappointment. We're about to potentially waste $230 million to undo something Californians already decided on in 2010, that an independent Commission, not the Governor and not the Legislature, should draw district lines. The majority of Californians don't want this. Yet here we are.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I'm exhausted that this is what we're choosing to spend our time on. This body has all the power to make the lives of Californians better. And Californians are sick and tired of watching us come to this floor week after week with no solutions to the crises that we're facing.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    We as a body are out of touch with the issues raging in our state, from affordability, health care to the housing crisis to homelessness. As a Marine Corps veteran, it sickens me to know that men and women who I fought alongside are sleeping on the streets. We can fix that, but we aren't.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Instead, the Governor and Members of this body are playing partisan politics. Let me be clear. Californians in my district tell me every day they feel forgotten by this body. Forgotten. Let me be clear about that. You see, in my district, the needs are urgent and real. Palo Verde Hospital in Blythe is on the brink of closure.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I requested 4 million in emergency funding to keep it operating, a lifeline that was not fulfilled. As a result, the hospital now faces an uncertain future, and residents of Blythe could soon be forced to travel over 100 miles just to access emergency care. This is not just a health care issue. It's a public safety crisis.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    In Imperial County, the last sugar beet plant, Spreckels, has shut down, wiping out over 700 jobs in a county that already suffers in a 20% unemployment rate. And yet, instead of focusing on jobs, we're debating on gerrymandering.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    At Ironwood State Prison in Blythe, leadership is doing incredible work rehabilitating incarcerated people with programs that gives men something to look forward to. Imagine what a fraction of this money could do there. In the mountain communities from Winchester to Anza, families live with a constant threat of wildfires.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    We should be filling reservoirs and doing real forest management, but we aren't. I've heard arguments in these halls that just because Texas is doing it, we should too. That the White House is holding onto money that should go to California. And democracy is in flames. Colleagues 2 Wrong zone. Make a right.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Like my colleague said, if democracy is on the line, then California should be strengthening it, not rigging it for political gain. Hundreds of millions of dollars could be directed towards fighting food insecurity, helping Organizations like FIND and the Imperial Valley Food Banks, who are doing God's work every single day and serving the most vulnerable in our communities.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    We cannot claim to serve the people while prioritizing their most basic needs. And I could go on. Families in Imperial, Riverside, and San Bernardino county can't afford gas, groceries, childcare. Parents are choosing between filling their gas tanks or their fridge. That's the reality my district is living with every single day.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So let me ask, why are we wasting time and money on reckless measures that is being pushed down onto Californians from those at the highest levels of government in our state? You know, when I was at war, at least I was able to see the threats coming at me.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    But here in Sacramento, I have no idea about the backroom deals. 30 seconds. I still can't get answers as to who actually drew the lines. I ran for office because of my son, RJ who has cerebral palsy. He can't speak for himself. So I ran to be his voice and the voice for his families.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And we fought together to take back in home supportive services. We work together to do that. We can do so much more. We can get so much more done. So, colleagues, I end by saying this. Let's rise up. Let's work together to fix the problems in our state, because we can do it. I've seen it done.

  • Jeff Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So let's make this happen.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Gonzalez, Assemblymember Arambula, you are recognized.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members, for the opportunity to present on this floor. I don't oftentimes speak, but I felt called today to be able to share some words. Just yesterday, an icon of this great country reminded me of our family's roots that began in Tejas.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    My father being born in Brownsville, Texas, in 1952, during a particularly racist and xenophobic period in American history, a time that was known as Operation Wetback. What is still to this day America's largest mass deportation event. An event that helped to sweep up my father, who is an American citizen, and deported our family to Mexico.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    That we learned that there are states that value and give dignity and respect to all who called that state and states that do not. And so we migrated to the great State of California, to Delano, where it was Dolores Huerta who reminded me yesterday that we were fighting for dignity and respect when it was UFW.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    My father, who I spoke about earlier, also had the honor of serving in this institution where he had an independent streak. Now, back in 2008, he was one of those Democrats who, along with Republicans voted for the independent redistricting Commission to go before the people.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    And so it is with great pride that many of us have been watching their work and honored by the service of those who wish to serve on that Commission. And I, too, was watching each one of those hearings and impressed with what was happening in 2020.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    But I had dinner with my father this past weekend, and I spoke with him about that vote, and he reminded me that today's electorate looks different than when he made that vote nearly two decades ago. That today's democracy looks different than it was two decades ago.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    And that fundamentally, representation is about returning resources, the taxes that we pay. And for those of us who come from poor areas, who represent poor people, we are not getting our fair share. And the representation that we have in Congress is not returning resources. That big, beautiful Bill was bad for our communities.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    And despite my ideals of wanting to fight for Independence and redistricting, we must make sure we're getting our fair share of resources. And so that means that you have to stand up against your ideals and stand up for your morals. You have to stand up for community who too often doesn't get represented here in the People's House.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    And so I will put my ideals to the side and instead stand up for our morals. But it comes with a warning that this institution might not be able to resist the temptation to come back here again, and that we have to make sure that we are fundamentally believing that we can maintain that independent redistricting Commission.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    So I will tell you, while I share that fear, what I put my faith in.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    I put my faith that there's someone here in the great State of California who one day will be walking around being the President of the United States and the White House, and that our Governor then will be able to pass federal independent redistricting Commission for all states.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    And by doing that, we can have a balanced, level playing field where every single person counts and we have representation that is returning resources for our communities. I put faith in the people of our state to decide their future.

  • Joaquin Arambula

    Legislator

    That while we might not have been a state when our nation was created, we are the bearer of its future. It is incumbent on us to rise up and to defend our democracy. I respectfully ask for an Aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Rambula Somebody. Member Tangipa, you are recognized.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This measure before us is neither bold nor principled. It is, in plain terms, a blatant attack on the most transparent process our state has ever had for drawing from congressional districts. It undermines what has Become the gold standard for the nation. The Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    The Commission was created to restore fairness to ensure representation in California is not based on which party controls the government, but on principles of Independence, transparency and community. And it worked. Californians can look at their districts today and they know that that they were not manipulated for partisan advantage.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And now, in just four days, with two rushed Committee hearings and almost no opportunity for real public comment, we are on the verge of throwing all of that away. Let me remind this body, during Committee hearings, one of our colleagues brazenly admitted that this entire thing was about partisan gerrymandering, admitted partisan politics.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    This was a direct response to the question about protecting voters and underserved communities. Not a word about fairness, not a word about transparency. An open admission to partisan gain. So how can we stand in this chamber and criticize Texas, Florida or other states for gerrymandering when we've joined them? The same practice.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    How can we demand fairness in the courts or before Congress when we're willing to sacrifice it here at home? We have lost all credibility. Let's not forget this is not free. We are wasting money and resources on an election that is unnecessary and unwanted.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Every dollar spent on this political stunt is a dollar not spent on addressing the cost of living crisis we or wildfires. Not spending on improving our schools, not spent on keeping our communities safe, and not spent on expanding healthcare access. Californians never asked for this election.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    What they did ask for was a fully Fund Prop 36, which this Legislature failed to do. What they asked for was for us not to ration Medi Cal because Californians and families are dying. Dying. We were told at the start of this session that our priority was addressing cost of living.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Yet I haven't seen any bills rushed through four days to lower utility rates, to make housing more affordable, to bring down our food prices. But when it comes to the bills that serve political ambition, suddenly four days is plenty of time. Suddenly co authoring bills without even reading them is no problem. This isn't just bad policy.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    It flies in the face of established fact. Study after study shows gerrymandering reduces federal dollars coming to our communities, depresses voter turnouts, disenfranchises us, and even leads to lower wages. None of that helps Californians who are already stretching every single penny thin. None of it helps to cover rent, grocery, gas.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    None of that helps the families that are deciding whether to pay for medicine or if they can afford their utility rates or if they can make an insurance payment or if they can afford to even Buy a house for the next generation. None of it.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    These facts again highlight my concerns with our spending problem and leveraging the future. 10 to $30 billion structural deficit is what we were told with the LAO and the Department of Finance. That is year over year all the way to 2028.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    If we don't stop this reckless spending on measures like this, we're going to drain what's left of our rainy day Fund and we are going to have to make significant cuts for Californians. And you are saying for partisan gain. It is worth it for families that are dying. To me, the message from the majority party is clear.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Principles and Independence only matter when it's politically convenient and Californians can do worse better. 30 seconds. Shameful. The level of Trump derangement syndrome in this party is debilitating our ability to govern properly. It is being claimed that the reason for this bill is to combat authoritarianism.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Before redistricting, before the big beautiful bill, before any cuts were implemented, it was this Legislature that stripped the minority of the committees because they spoke out in opposition. It was this Legislature that restricted our time. The real authoritarian problem is in the mirror. The what about him? Thank you Assembly, everywhere else.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member, the youngest Member of this Committee.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Harbidian, you are recognized.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There's an old adage for lawyers that when the law is on your side, you pound the law. When the facts are on your side, you pound the facts. When neither the facts or the law are on your side, you pound the table.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    And I'll tell you, my friends on the other side of the aisle, we've been hearing a lot of pounding the table today. Most of what we heard, including what we just heard, was completely hyperbolic and devoid of fact. And with all the bluster, let's be clear about the admission of partisan gain.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    There is a representative that will go down in history in Texas, one by the name of Representative Todd Hunter, who admitted that this was nakedly partisan. What happened in Texas, and I quote, the underlying goal of what happened In Texas, as Mr. Hunter said of this plan, is straightforward to improve Republican political performance.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    That is the admission of partisan objectives that we should be focused on. That is the admission of gerrymandering that why we are here today.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    And for every friend across the aisle that stood up today, including my friend from Fresno that has held up independent commissions for redistricting as the model, when my friend From Merced introduced AB 1441 for independent redistricting in her district, every single one of you voted against it. So save it. This is about one thing.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    It's about one man trying to control California, trying to control our country. We will not bend, we will not break, and we will do everything in our power to save California and save our country. This is one of the proudest moments of my short term as a Legislator here.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    It's one of the easiest votes that I will take and I will be very proud when the California people who ultimately make this decision actually help us save our country. I request an Aye vote, Mr. Speaker.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Harbidian. Assemblymember Hoover, you are recognized.

  • Josh Hoover

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I agree with my colleague from Lynwood that this is not a fight between Democrats and Republicans. In fact, redistricting has never been a fight between political parties. It has always been a fight between the people and power hungry politicians and friends. This did not start in Texas.

  • Josh Hoover

    Legislator

    For over 200 years, politicians have used gerrymandering to choose their preferred voters, protect their own political interests and avoid accountability. And let's be clear, it is wrong when this is done by either party.

  • Josh Hoover

    Legislator

    In fact, many of the points raised by my colleagues on this floor today highlight the harms of partisan gerrymandering and underscore exactly why politicians should not be drawing their own maps. That is why I was proud when California citizens chose a better path forward.

  • Josh Hoover

    Legislator

    A system where politicians no longer choose their voters, but one where the voters get to choose their politicians. Our Citizens Redistricting Commission is a model for the nation and a model that should be adopted nationwide to end all partisan gerrymandering once and for all.

  • Josh Hoover

    Legislator

    Despite Governor Newsom's insistence that ACA 8 preserves this model, make no mistake that it undermines the will of the voters and forever tarnishes California's legacy as a leader on independent redistricting. You are all correct that the voters will get a say once again if this passes today.

  • Josh Hoover

    Legislator

    And I truly believe that they will see through this veiled attempt to return power to the politicians. As of this week, polls already show that 64% of Californians do not support the proposal before us today. So I urge you to reject this race to the bottom, to stand on principle and vote no on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Hoover. Assemblymember Kalra, you are recognized.

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's really tiresome to hear these sanctimonious cries from the opposition to this measure for the past several weeks and even months, as Trump has been clamoring for more and more power, talking about having a third term, and then very Directly demanding seats be given to him that he's entitled to from Texas.

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    We didn't hear our Republican colleagues say a word about that when it's their party in control of Congress, their party in control of the White House. That fight was brought to us.

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    And we didn't hear anything about redistricting and fairness at all until today when it's brought to our doorstep and we have to now stand up to defend our democracy against a tyrant. And these crocodile tears about, oh, what about the children? Oh, what about the health care?

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    When not any one of them spoke about this big ugly bill that was passed that's going to take over $1.0 trillion away from Medicaid, millions in SNAP, giving food to children and seniors. They talk about a cost of an election.

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    They never talk about a cost of an election when time and again they try to recall the Governor. We didn't hear about cost of election then, but we hear about it now. What is the cost of election? Oh, about the class of one Trump ballroom.

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    So let's be real about what we're talking about when we talk about getting on your knees. You talk about taking and bending the knee. You're bending the knee to a tyrant. And we will not have any kings. We will have no kings in America. Not as long as California exists.

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    Not as long as we have the ability to fight back. We will not have a king. You all are choosing your Supreme leader over your own constituents. You're choosing your Supreme leader, Trump, over children that are going to lose health care and food. You are making that choice and we are standing up against it.

  • Ash Kalra

    Legislator

    We are not going to stand up for trillions in tax cuts for billionaires. We are going to stand up for democracy. We are going to go down fighting for our democracy. And we will let you be on the wrong side of history, Republicans.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Kara. Members, this is the second and final request. Anyone who wishes to speak must raise their microphone now. They do not, will not be recognized. Speaker Reavis, you are recognized.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Protamine. Quite the year we have had here. 2025. I'm proud of this chamber, I'm proud of my colleagues for meeting this moment with courage. President Trump wants us to be intimidated, and his playbook is a simple one. Bully, threaten and silence, then rig the rules to hang onto power.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    And we're here today because California will not be a bystander to that power grab. We are not intimidated. And we are acting openly, lawfully, with purpose and resolve to defend our state and to defend Our democracy. And look, Donald Trump, he does not believe in democracy.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    He is terrified of losing, and he will do whatever it takes to cling onto power. We saw this on January 6 when he unleashed a violent mob on our nation's capital. And he did this to overturn an election.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    We saw it yesterday in the State of Texas, where Republicans advanced a mid decade map designed to flip up to five congressional seats and lock in a partisan edge in the U.S. House of Representatives at President Trump's order. Again, this is the same dangerous playbook.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    If Trump can't win fairly, he'll try to make it impossible for Republicans to lose. And why? Because Donald Trump knows what we know. Voters are ready to hold him accountable from California to New York, from north to South.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    But of course, President Trump, he doesn't want to be held accountable for his failures in an election, especially the next one, and that's why he is trying to rig it. And of course, our Republican colleagues in this chamber don't want their party to be held accountable by voters, and certainly not in California.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    Accountable for ripping away $1.251.0 billion $1.0 billion from our state for food assistance for hungry kids, hungry children, our most vulnerable families. Accountable for the millions of Californians who will lose their health care coverage because of this President. Accountable for the cuts to our disaster preparedness while our communities burn and flood.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    Accountable for the communities in our state torn apart by Ayes raids. Neighbors, friends, the people who put food on our tables, shoved into unmarked vans by men wearing masks, taken without warning or due process. Accountable for tariffs that are driving up our grocery prices every single day.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    Accountable for corruption that makes Trump, his family and his friends richer while everyone else struggles to get by. In California. In California, we will do whatever it takes to ensure that voters, not Donald Trump, will decide the direction of this country. This is a proud moment in the history of this Assembly. Californians, we believe in freedom.

  • Robert Rivas

    Legislator

    We will not let our political system be hijacked by authoritarianism. And today, we give every Californian the power to say no. To say no to Donald Trump's power grab. And yes to our people, to our state, and to our democracy. Mr. Speaker, I proudly ask for an Aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All debate having ceased. State your point, Assemblymember Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, in the past, and actually earlier today, you've said that.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    State your point of order. Assemblymember Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    You said that votes are to suspend the Constitution. ACA 8 specifically says, Notwithstanding provisions of the state constitution.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    So when we vote on this, would you please reference it as a vote to suspend the Constitution as you have done previously.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Moment, Mr. Gallagher. Point is not well taken. Assemblymember Gallagher this is a vote to put the measure on the ballot for the people of the California of the State of California. It is not a suspension of the Constitution. All debate having ceased, Clerk will open the roll. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote to desire to vote. Park will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes, 57. Noes, 20. The measure passes. The measure is adopted media transmittal to the Senate without objection.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, we actually have a very special guest, historic Californian who's visiting us today. And we're going to take an opportunity to take a quick break from business on the Daily File and recognize Assemblymember Wicks for her guest introduction and Assemblymember Bonta for her guest introduction.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and colleagues. I rise today to recognize one of the greatest athletes of all time. In addition to being an Oakland native, a proud UC Berkeley alumni. That's right, a business owner, a philanthropist, an actor, he's also the only man who has ever single handedly caused an earthquake.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    I am honored to introduce to you Mr. Marshawn Lynch. He is a true Renaissance man. During his NFL career, Marshawn, nicknamed Beast Mode, rushed over 10,000 yards, scored 85 touchdowns, earned five Pro bowl selections, and led the Seattle Seahawks to their first super bowl victory in 2014.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    Since retiring, Marshawn has continued to make a lasting impact off the field. From co founding the Fam First Family Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to empowering youth through mentorship, to starring in a number of movies, Marshawn has dedicated his career to representing and uplifting his community.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    He's also involved in a variety of business ventures including Beast Mode Apparel, Rob and Ben's Sports Bar and Restaurant in Emeryville, Beast Mode and Beast Mode Productions. And of course, we all know his love of Skittles. Sorry, Mr. Gabriel.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    Please join me in giving a nice warm California welcome to a leader, a legend in sports, entertainment, business and community, Marshawn Lynch.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Welcome to the California Assembly Members. We have a few other welcomes for Mr. Lynch. Just a moment, just a moment. Assemblymember Bonta and Assemblymember Tangipa. Assemblymember Bonta, you are recognized.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm honored on behalf of the beautiful people of Oakland to welcome to the town our own Marshawn Lynch to the Capitol. Before he was a Super bowl champion, Marshawn's love for football was born in Oakland, and his talents on the field were quickly recognized during his time in at Oakland Technical High School.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Marshawn would go on to bring his fierce skills to Berkeley, the Bills, the Seahawks and the Raiders. Off the field, Marshawn has never failed to show the love for his hometown of Oakland, particularly as he's seen working with his family foundation, embodying the true spirit of California and the soul of the town. As he constantly outdoes himself.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Marshawn has even made a name for himself on the silver screen in smash hits like Bottoms, Freaky Tales, and I know my kids are waiting to see what you'll bring this next season with Euphoria. We want to thank and love on our Marshawn Lynch.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    Because right now, Oakland deserves the defender, the caretaker, the champion that is embodied in our icon, Mr. Marshawn Lynch. Thank you for being here.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    And finally, Assemblymember Tangipa.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I just wanted to say really briefly Marshawn Lynch and I, we had an amazing mentor of ours, Coach Jeff Tedford, that taught principles and values to us, and you as a teddy bear and me as a teddy dog. We all know that that man said it. And shout out to KP, my teammate at Fresno State, thank you.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you for coming and speaking to us and fostering the next generation. Because most people don't see that. They don't see what you do to the young men out there. And you tell them to buy in. And when you don't have a man in your life, you can find a leader who will build that foundation for you.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And you did that for hundreds of thousands of young men across the state that believe in you, that found passion, that drove themselves when they had nothing and no hope. But one man believed in us and changed our lives. They did that. And you are leading that same example.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And I just wanted to say thank you and it's good to see you. Welcome to the California Assembly.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, we have continued business on the daily file. We are now moving to the Senate third reading file, item 145, SB 280, by Senator Cervantes, presented by Assembly Member Pellerin. Members, can I have you take your desk, please? Members, please take your desks. Take your conversations off the floor. Leader Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Is this on the amendments?

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, you're recognized, Leader Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I do have amendments at the desk on SB 280. This amendment would require the proposed congressional maps to be publicly available for at least 131 days.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Gallagher, I'm going to ask the Clerk to read first, and then. And then I'll ask you to recognize you once again. A Clerk will read SB 280, Senate Bill 280, with amendments by Assembly Member Gallagher. Set two. Assembly Member Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Yes. Thank you. Again, Mr. Speaker, this amendment would require that the proposed congressional maps to be publicly available for at least 131 days before the voters make the decision on ACA 8. This is about putting people over politics. Rushing through maps without scrutiny is unacceptable.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    By requiring the maps to be publicly available well in advance and in compliance with the constitutional deadline of 131 days, we protect the integrity of our democracy and give citizens ample time to review and challenge any unfair boundaries. We can't ignore the stark contrast. The Commission's independent, public driven approach has delivered fair representation.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    But this legislative push sparked by other politics, threatens to drag California into redistricting wars that prioritize party power over people. The Independent Citizens Redistrict Commission held over 100, actually over 200 meetings and welcomed extensive input from voters on the communities and needs ensuring a thorough and transparent process.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    These amendments to SB 280 are essential to ensure that there is enough input and review time for voters to understand what they are voting on. This is a very complex matter.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    These are very intricate maps that cover the entire state and people need to know what communities have been split, what communities have, what counties have been split out, what what their representation will actually look like.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    So giving California's that time that they deserved, much like they had during the Commission's exhaustive process, helps ensure that we have fundamental fair review before those are voted on. And I respectfully ask for your aye vote on this reasonable amendment.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you Assembly Member Gallagher. Majority Leader. Madam Majority Leader, you recognized.

  • Mia Bonta

    Legislator

    I move to lay the amendments on the table.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Seconded by Assembly Member Garcia. This motion is not debatable. It takes majority of those present in voting members. This is a procedural vote. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. Majority leaders asking for an aye vote. Leader Gallagher is asking for a no vote. All members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All Members vote who desire to vote. The Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 48, noes 19. The amendments are laid on the table. Assembly Member Demaio, you are recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Thank you Mr. Speaker. I rise in strong opposition to SB 280 and have an amendment at the desk.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Demaio, we still need open on the measure first and then you will be recognized for the amendment. The author. There's an amendment at the desk? Mr. Demaio, you're out of order. Mr. Demaio, you may approach the deus and speak with the Chief Clerk. Your amendments are not here at the desk. Assembly Member Pellerin.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Okay. We have. We have sets of amendments here. Assembly Member Castillo, we have your set of amendments. Would you like to speak on your amendments? Assembly Member Castillo, you are recognized to speak on your amendments. Clerk will read the amendments.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 280 with amendments by assuming. Member Castillo, set one summit.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Member Castillo, you are recognized.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, I am presenting these amendments today because California voters created the Citizens Redistricting Commission for one clear purpose. To take the power of drawing district lines away from politicians and return it to the people. Yet Governor Newsom and Democrat politicians are seeking to redraw our maps without transparency and public input.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    What we see before us today is exactly the kind of gerrymandering Californians thought they ended when they approved the Citizens Redistricting Commission in the first place. These amendments to SB 280 make sure the Commission remains truly independent.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    By making it a misdemeanor for elected officials to communicate with commissioners about district lines, we close the door to backroom deals and unethical political pressure. If redistricting is to happen, it should happen on the merits of the needs of the people, not because powerful politicians whispered in the ear of the Commission. This is simply about trust.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    The public deserves to know what the maps they live under are drawn fairly, not manipulated for partisan advantage. We stand here as elected representatives of California, not Texas. We were sent here to protect the will of the California voters. This has nothing to do with Texas.

  • Leticia Castillo

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask for your support on these amendments to protect the will of California voters. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you. Assembly Member Castillo. Madam Majority Leader, you are recognized. I move to lay the amendments on the table. Seconded by Assembly Member Garcia. Members, this motion is not debatable. It takes a majority of those present at voting. This is a procedural vote. Clerk will open the roll. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The Majority Leader is asking for an aye vote. Assembly Member Castillo is asking for a no vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes, 55. No's, 19. The amendments are laid on the table. Assembly Member Gallagher, set 3.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    You are recognized for your amendment, sir. The Clerk will read. Excuse me.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 280 with amendments by Assembly Member Gallagher. Set three.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So this is the amendment that I was speaking to earlier that was taken out. So right now, ACA8 does not have a trigger provision. If Texas were to move forward with redistricting, that this would only go into effect if that happens.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    I am proposing this amendment to SB 280 to make that the case. And truly if the debate that we just heard is true that we have to do this because of what Texas is doing. And by the way, one house has passed the redistricting measure. Another house still has to pass it.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    The Governor would still have to sign it in Texas. Put the condition in in the Bill. If it's truly about Texas and you're countering what Texas is doing, then there should be a condition of on this ACA and this measure going forward. If you truly believe that, then you should support this amendment.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And that's again another simple reasonable amendment I am proposing to this legislation. I hope that this body will support it and put your money where your mouth is.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you. Assembly Member Gallagher. Madam Majority Leader, you are recognized. I move delay the amendments on the table. There is a motion by the Majority leader Seconded by Assembly Member Garcia. Members, this is a procedural vote. It is not debatable. Takes majority of those President voting. Clerk will open the roll. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The Majority Leader is asking for an aye vote. Mr. Gallagher is asking for a no vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 55 nos. 19. The amendments are laid on the table. Clerk will read set 4 of the amendments.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    Senate Bill 280 with amendments by Assembly Member Tangipa. Set 4 summary.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Member Tangipa, you are recognized.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you. This amendment is simple and if you voted for ACA8 and the maps it created or sorry and you're about to vote on this, you shouldn't be allowed to immediately run for those districts. You shouldn't have a vested interest in approving the measure.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And if you truly believe that SB 280 was about fairness then you should have no problem stepping back and giving up the chance from benefiting from it. This amendment closes that loophole. It makes sure the Legislature legislators can't change the rules one day and cash in on them the next.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Public service should come first before self interest period. I ask that you support these amendments and you prove that you don't have a vested interest. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you Assembly Member Tangipa. Madam Majority Leader, you are recognized.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I move. I move to lay the amendments on the table.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Majority Leader has moved to lay the amendments on the table. Seconded by Assembly Member Garcia. Members, this is a procedural vote. Takes 40 majority of those present in voting. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. Majority leaders asking for an aye vote. Mr. Tangipa is asking for a no vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    All Members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 53, nos. 19. The amendments are laid on the table. Now on to the bill in chief.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    The Clerk will read Senate Bill 280 by Senator Cervantes and others in accolating to elections and making it appropriation, therefore declaring the urgency thereof to take effect immediately.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Pellerin, you are recognized.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker and Members. I rise to present SB 280, a Bill that is jointly authored by Senator Cervantes and myself. This bill calls for a statewide special election on November 4th of 2025. This special election gives California voters the opportunity to vote on a constitutional amendment. Let me repeat that.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    California voters, not elected officials, will make the final decision. ACA 8, as was presented by my colleague from Menlo Park, will allow for a one time temporary mid decade redistrict of our state's congressional districts.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    Not because we want to, but because we want to allow voters to decide if they want to fight against the horrific Trump policies that are harming their families, businesses, communities and institutions.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    SB 280 also makes the necessary statutory changes to allow for the election to be held on time and to allow elections officials to conduct a fair and transparent, secure and accessible election.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    As a former county elections official, I can attest that the county elections officials I know are the most professional, well trained, dedicated group of public servants I have ever met. They have proven time and again that they can deliver elections with accuracy, integrity and dedication.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    From presidential contests held during a pandemic to recalls held during wildfires, they have risen to every challenge. A special election in November will demand extraordinary effort and resources.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    But I have full confidence that with the proper state support and under the leadership of of our Secretary of State and her team, they will once again ensure that every voter has access, every ballot is secure and every voice is heard.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    SB 280 also includes language to ensure that counties are made whole for the cost of conducting this special election. This provision was especially important for me, and I know that it's important for counties of all, all sizes to quickly touch on the issue of costs.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    I know there's been concern from some of my colleagues that having this special election is not the best use of state dollars. Whatever it costs to conduct this special election pales in comparison to the massive economic harm by Trump on our state. We've heard many people speak of it today.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    His terrorists have fueled higher prices, families are paying more at the grocery store. And yet he's slashing billions of dollars from food assistance, leaving 735,000 Californians at risk of losing calfresh. He's cutting nearly a trillion from Medicaid to pay for tax breaks for billionaires, putting Medi Cal coverage for 3 million Californians on the line.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    And he's holding back nearly $1.0 billion for our K through 12 schools. Trump's mass arrests, detentions and deportations will cost the state billions of dollars and eliminate $23 billion in tax revenues.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    Trump's policies, science and climate funding, strip women's and LGBTQ rights, cut support for veterans, seniors and people with disabilities, and target our communities of color, undermining health, dignity and opportunity for the most vulnerable. The list goes on. Trump's policies don't just hurt our economy. They hurt our families, our schools, our health and our future.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    That is the democracy we are fighting for. It's the people. A government of, for and by the people. The cost of this election is pennies compared to the price Californians are already paying for Trump's failed policies. But ultimately, California doesn't have to spend a single dime on this special election.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    Our state's Republican representatives in Congress can march over to the White House right now, pick up the phone, organize themselves and tell the President to stop what is happening in Texas right now. His grab for five seats that he thinks he is entitled to.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    And they better act fast because we know that map has been passed by the House and it's going to the Senate today.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    As long as this President thinks he's entitled to more Republican seats in Congress regardless of how the people vote, and as long as Republican officials nationally are unwilling to stand up and defend, fight for it and to preserve our democracy, then California must give voters this opportunity to decide whether to fight back against these authoritarian tactics by approving the use of these temporary congressional district maps.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask for your aye vote on SB 280.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Pellerin. Assembly Member Demaio, you are recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, permission to use a prop.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    We are not allowing props today, Mr. Demaio.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Then why have you become props to Governor Gavin Newsom's presidential campaign? That is what SB 280 is. An unnecessary special election at a cost of a quarter $1.0 billion. Why? Because his campaign for President has been going down in flames and he needs something thing to prop up his chances.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Make no mistake about it, this is a political stunt, an unnecessary costly special election because Gavin Newsom needs chum in the water for political attention. You know it and I know it. And you're allowing state taxpayer money to be used for it.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    My friends across the aisle say that this is no more than a special election, like the recall was in 2021. But let me tell you why. There's a big difference. The recall in 2021 was a citizen's right. You may disagree with it. I know you all likely voted against it.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    But it is a right of the citizens to collect signatures and place items on the ballot and trigger a special election. If you felt that this was necessary to overturn the 2010 citizens initiative that took the power out of your hands to manipulate lines. And that's what you're doing here. That's what ACA8 does.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Takes the power away from the Citizens Commission, gives it right back to the politicians so they can do what they've done for the last 72 hours. Go behind closed doors and manipulate maps and draw lines and fashion congressional districts for themselves or their friends in the future.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    If you wanted to do all that, then you should have done a citizens initiative campaign. You should have collected your signatures like the recall backers did. But you didn't. Because you have no problem spending precious, scarce state tax dollars in the middle of a budget crisis.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    You say that we have to defend dollars for California, but you have wantonly wasted money. For example, giving free health care to illegal immigrants at the cost of $10 billion and counting. $250 million applied to our state budget may not make up for your multi $1.0 billion deficit, but it's a start.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    You know what $250 million would do? It would fully Fund Prop 36 so that we could give power and tools to the prosecutors and the law enforcement agencies to arrest and punish criminals.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Voters voted for Prop 36, but you refused to Fund it from the party that says let the voters decide and let's do what the voters want. Baloney. You do what you want. Might makes right. And that's exactly what you've done for the last 72 hours by trampling over constitutional provisions and violating House rules.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    And you talk about a fair election. SB 280 shortens the timeline necessary for an election, but because you have an urgency clause there, might makes right. You change election law and now you're gonna slap a misleading ballot title on. You can't even win based on the truth.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    You say you trust the voters, but you don't trust them enough to tell them the truth because your ballot measure title. Because we've seen it. We've seen your polling that the DCCC or someone paid for. Retains the Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission. Are you proud of yourselves? Retains the Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission. You are eviscerating that Commission.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    You are nullifying that Commission. You are suspending the voice of the citizens and what they decided to grab the power back for yourself. And don't for a moment call it temporary. You know darn well that this is permanent. You will never give the power back to the people once you seize it back from them. 30 seconds.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    And finally you say that you're going to respect the vote of the people. Did you do that with Prop 36 by fully funding it? No. Did you respect the vote of the people who put Article 21 in our state constitution and said you shouldn't have the ability to draw maps?

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    You are drawing a map in violation of the state constitution. You don't care about what the voters said. You're disregarding it from 2010. Oh, but they'll retroactively approve our decision here, will they? Give them an honest ballot title. You'll see what these voters.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. DeMaio. Thank you, Mr. Demaio. Mr. Demaio. That was pretty funny. I was so tempted to recognize birthdays, but I refrained. Assembly Member Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition. You know the scripture that I quoted earlier about turning the other cheek? It is a hard word. It's a hard word for me because all this week, all I've wanted to do is fight back. And when you see something you think is wrong, that's your immediate gut reaction.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    But that scripture is for me, and it's for everyone in this room. And it may be hard, it may go against the grain, but it is nonetheless true. And I think what is also true is that we have to stop saying that our democracy is in peril. And let me talk about that a little bit more.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    I've been hearing that since I was in college. I remember when George W. Bush won the election, and that was all you would hear. zero, my God, our democracy is over. He's a warmonger. All these outlandish statements that we make about our opponents. Right. To gin up the base, to make. To further polarization.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    It really started even back then on my side when Obama got elected. zero, my God, our democracy is over. You know, he's a communist plant. He's probably going to bring about communism. Right. To gin up the base. Right. And then, of course, when Trump got Elected. zero, our democracy is over. And yet we had an election, right?

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And Joe Biden was elected President. Imagine that. Our democracy wasn't over, right? And of course, on our side, a lot of people upset as well. We didn't like what Joe Biden was doing. I didn't like his policies. I did not like his Executive orders that I thought were an overreach of Executive power. I certainly called him out.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    But our democracy was not over, no, not by a long shot. We didn't stop meeting in these halls as the representatives of the people. We didn't stop doing those things. People still voted. Elections still happened. And Donald Trump was reelected President in the last cycle. I know that that bothers you.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    I know you don't like it, but he was duly elected. And our democracy is no more in peril than it was back when George W. Bush or when Barack Obama was elected or when Joe Biden was elected. So stop saying that because it contributes to the problem, ginning everybody up.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Further polarization, more vortex of polarization that we can't get out of. That's the problem. We have a responsibility right here in this building to pass just laws. And now we have a bill before us.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    It is not just to suspend election laws, to suspend the time that people have, to review constitutional amendments, to shorten the time for when you're supposed to have elections, shorten the time when people have the ability to review and give public input, to move through these bills in three days, when you're supposed to have at least 30 days in print before you even hear them.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And you know it. It's not just. So don't pretend that it is. And here's another truth. All the flowery language, all the defending democracy, standing up, fighting for your democracy, all of that is all subterfuge for this one principle.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Because this is exactly what you were saying, that in order to save democracy, we must dismantle it, we must undermine it. In order to preserve representation, you must temporarily suspend it. That principle has never been true and has always led to despotism and authoritarianism. But you're following along, marching along right to it, giving away power that belongs.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    To the people. Subverting the Constitution, and then saying you're doing it under the auspices of. Of democracy. 30 seconds. You know, I had no problem saying that I think my President is wrong. I agree with a lot of his agenda, but I think he is wrong on this point.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    What I don't hear over there on this other side is that our Governor is wrong and you were silent. Don't talk to me about Executive overreach when he didn't even let us go worship in our churches and you said nothing. When he shut down businesses, many of them Latino owned immigrant businesses, you said nothing.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    So stand up for Executive overreach when it really matters. And right now we could do it when it's a Member of.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Gallagher. State your point, Assembly Member. Somebody remember Schultz, State your point of order.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Yep. All right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just want to encourage everyone to follow the rules and not impugn the integrity of any member of the body. I'm pretty sure I can borrow another handbook here by my seatmate.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Schultz. Thank you, Mr. Schultz. Your point of order is well taken. Members, I will remind you what I read earlier. Mason Section 120 and 121. Freedom of speech involves obedience to all the rules of debate. The language used by Members during debate should be temperate, decorous and respectful. Assembly Member Tangipa, you are recognized.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really like to do data, facts and dates. So let's have some. Seven months ago, there was a different President in the White House. Let's be clear. The challenges Californians faced are the same ones they are now.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    But then back then, seven months ago, the average cost of a home in the state, in this state was 825,101 in every five. Californian right now can't afford their utility bills. Recent college graduates were drowning in student loan debt and small businesses. We're shuddering at an alarming rate. The fact of the matter is this.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    The common denominator in all of this isn't who sits in the White House. It's the priorities. Excuse me. Assembly Member.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Just a moment. Assembly Member Harabedian, state your point of order.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would ask the speakers to actually speak. To the bill in front of us and.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Harabedian. Your point is well taken. Please speak to the merits of this bill.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And we are here today debating a bill that does nothing to address housing affordability, utility rates, education or small business survival. Instead, we're debating a bill that writes blank checks for an election that solves nothing. That was never asked by anybody.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    The Legislative Analysis Office and the Department of Finance, two offices that rarely agree on much, are in lockstep on one thing. Our state faces a structural deficit between $10 billion and $30 billion. Until 2028, we don't even know the final cost of this election.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    The analysis says it will likely run in the hundreds of millions of dollars when at a time when we're already in the red. And that's even before we even factor in the additional blank checks that are written by the Attorney General for an inevitable litigation that will truly, truly follow colleagues.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    This bill and the manner in which it is being forced through the Legislature is the exact opposite of fiscal responsibility. Again, as a business owner and a realtor, it usually takes around 21 days to perform due diligence. When spending $500,000 on a home.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I can't even get 21 minutes in a Committee to perform due diligence and we're debating on spending over $200 million. And that's just financial insanity. This is a bill that would spend millions of dollars and affect 40 million Californians. Writing blank checks without due diligence is grossly negligent.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Californians deserve more than two hearings, limited comments, and no answers. Rather than wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on a special election that nobody asked for, we have an opportunity to reevaluate our priorities. The money could be used to address very real and critical issues. Madera County, a rural county.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    The hospital is struggling to remain open in that exact county. You cannot have a baby in it. And I represent them along with others colleagues. Let's be honest. This bill is not about solving California's real problems. It's about political gamesmanship at the expense of 40 million people who are already stretched to their limits.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And every dollar we throw at a vanity project is a dollar we steal from families who cannot afford groceries from the six to eight hospitals on the verge of closing its doors, from students buried in debt and small businesses just trying to survive. If we pass this bill, we're not just writing blank checks.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    We're writing off the very people we elected to serve. Californians deserve leadership, not recklessness. They deserve solutions, not distractions. They deserve. They deserve a Legislature that treats their hard earned tax dollars the same as they treat their own. I will not stand by and rubber stamp financial insanity.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I urge you to join me in rejecting this wasteful, short sighted and hypocritical bill. When asked multiple times, how much does it cost? Can we allocate money? I was attacked over and over and over again. And if we want to use the hypocrisy as an argument, then let's look at it. Let's look at the independent redistricting.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Let's look at all this. Let's bring up 1441 when it was. If you even read the bill, if you even read that partisan gerrymandering bill, you would realize that it's based off of the registration in that county, gets the majority.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And it also has written in that bill that the minority party doesn't equal even have to agree with it. That is structurally different than the independent redistricting Commission we have here. And it is a blatant lie. And you are trying to gaslight people that we are hypocritical.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Let me do you one better because I look at this so much. 30 seconds bill. That was AB 2030 in 2022. That created the exact same thing that was a partisan citizens redistricting Commission. I ask that you look at a nonpartisan independent one and you protect the sanctity of it.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And you also prioritize a Californian's wallets because they can't afford the bs. I urge a no.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Tangipa. Assembly Member McKinnor, you are recognized.

  • Tina McKinnor

    Legislator

    Yes, Mr. Chair and Members, I urge an aye on SB 280 as we look at how much it's going to cost to. To hold this election. My colleague quoted $200 million. Where I can find that $200 million Donald Trump. He's froze nearly $1 billion in education funds meant for California schools.

  • Tina McKinnor

    Legislator

    This money supports after school programs, teachers training and English learning programs that tens of thousands of California kids rely on. He's stripping these funds, punishing our most vulnerable. Look, Donald Trump is not just playing politics. He's deliberately punishing California's families, students and workers by withholding billions of dollars we've already earned.

  • Tina McKinnor

    Legislator

    We cannot allow one man's vendetta to rob our State of his future. He's also holding research in higher education funds. Trump has pulled $584 million in federal research grants from UCLA alone, threatening groundbreaking cancer research. He's pulling money. He's holding money.

  • Tina McKinnor

    Legislator

    I haven't heard anyone stand up and say why he is pulling money from our state on this vendetta. And so I think that we can find the money to save democracy. And with that, I ask for an aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Mckinnor. Assembly Member Davies, you are recognized.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. There were five questions to my poll, so I thought I'd finish them up again. Listen to the people, because what I'm hearing is there's no limit to the cost for this election. So we had a question.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    If the state were to hold a special election to change the redistricting process, it could cost taxpayers more than $200 million. Knowing this. Would you support or oppose holding a special election on this issue? Democrats supported it by 64%, Republicans opposed it by 90%, and once again, independents opposed it by 69%.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Also, some people say giving redistricting power back to politicians could lead to gerrymandering districts drawn to favor incumbents or one party. Others say politicians are accountable to voters and should have this responsibility. Which view comes closest to yours and your concerns? 56% of Democrats said they had concerns.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    Republicans, 98% said they had concerns with politicians making the maps. And 90% of independents had strong concerns about putting it in the hands of politicians. So once again, it's not my voice, it's the people's voice, and they deserve to be heard. I recommend an opposition to SB 280. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you. Assembly Member Davies. Assembly Member Berman, you are recognized.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, is there a Doctor in the House? Are you asking the chair, Mr. Berman? Yeah, I'm asking the speaker if we have. I am severely worried. Some colleagues from across the aisle are suffering from severe Gavin Derangement Syndrome, and I'm worried about their health. But I'll tell you, I'm so tired.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    I'm so tired of hearing the faux outrage and the lecturing and the hypocrisy from colleagues who are silent or worse yet, support efforts to rip food assistance away from hundreds of thousands of Californians who supported efforts to rip health care away from millions of Californians, especially in their districts. I'm so tired of Republicans.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Excuse me, colleagues from across the aisle who complain about the cost of democracy, but who are silent when the President of the United States. The duly elected President of the United States. Never a debate on that from me. No, stop the steal over here. Wants to extort California institutions for billions of dollars. But now.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Now, when we're trying to defend democracy, it's too high of a cost to bear.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    Eight and a half years in, and. The faux outrage has gotten a little nauseating. I encourage my colleagues to vote aye on SB280.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Berman. Assembly Member Hadwick, you are recognized.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition. I rise today for rural California, for the communities that have once been get once again been forgotten and sidelined by a process that should have been transformed transparent, but instead was conducted in secret, behind closed doors.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    I've stood side by side by colleagues on both sides of the aisle to fight for federal funding. I truly try to make decisions for people, for the people that live in my very unique district. I went to D.C. to speak again to both sides of the aisle for funding for secure rural schools, for Head Start, for tribes.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    So I was not silent then, and I can't be silent now. These redistricting efforts divide my district into pieces, splitting apart communities that share history, geography, and real human connection. How does Modoc County belong in a district with Marin and the Golden Gate Bridge? These counties are 400 miles apart and separated by two mountain ranges.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    The priorities of Alturas and Sausalito could not be more different. My rural county that borders Oregon and Nevada with 8,000 residents. Now we'll have the same representative as our Governor in Marin County, Modoc County, one of the poorest and most remote in the state, grouped with Marin County, one of the wealthiest and urban.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    That is not a community of interest. That is political Frankenstein. The people, not the politicians, should choose their representatives. My district hates government. I grew up in the original State of Jefferson. They don't trust our state. This plan is a violation of what little public trust we have left with Californians.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    It's expensive, it's rushed, and it's done without the consent of the very, very people that we claim to be protecting. And if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. And I don't agree that it should happen anywhere. The games, the revenge, the hate. The politician answers to very simple questions.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    The actions taken by this body this week. This is why people don't trust us. We've heard a lot of quotes from Martin Luther King Jr. Today, and one of my favorites, that he's also probably his most famous quote that I try to live by every day is, darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    And hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that. My district has two congressmen that are bold, relentless fighters who stand tall for rural California. They don't back down from a fight, whether it's defending our water, our farms, our natural Resources, disaster relief, or simply our way of life.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    Now they are being targeted with this new map designed to silence our voice. Again, strip what little power these rural communities have, and we cannot afford to lose them. We need leaders who know us, who stand with us and fight like hell for us. They are loved in my district because they understand my very unique district.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    You cannot serve communities that you do not understand, and you cannot fairly represent people whose voices you deliberately silence. My district is arguably the most conservative in the state, and I truly hate the party lines, the divide.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    I represent everyone that lives in my district, no matter what party, and I try to take that into consideration of my work because that is good governance. The party divide in these new maps are not my only concern.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    My concern is that my district is diced into pieces, creating an urban versus rural divide that already happens every day in this building. This is not good governance. This is about control. And it's rural Californians who will pay the price. This isn't just bad policy. It's bad faith.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    And Californians, my constituents, deserve better than to be used as pawns in a political game that we weren't even invited to play in. I believe the voters will see through this in November, and the results will be that we all lose.

  • Heather Hadwick

    Legislator

    The only thing that we're going to have is more Californians that think that their government is once again trying to trick them, once again wasting money on political messaging, and once again letting them down. The people, not the politicians, should choose the representatives. And at the end of the day, Californians deserve better than this.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Hadwick. Assembly Member Sanchez, you are recognized.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    Colleagues as we listen to the debates today on the floor. Do you understand now why people feel the system is rigged against them? These discussions are not just about maps. They are about our values. It's about whether this Legislature is listening to the people of California or only to itself.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    On April 23, 2025 Speaker Robert Rivas said something that hit home for so many of us. California's cost of living is the single biggest threat to our future. Middle class families earning 125,000 a year are struggling to afford rent, childcare, groceries, and that is not sustainable. He was right. I see it in my community every single day.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    Heck, I've lived it. Families working two to three jobs, parents leaving the house before the sun comes up and coming home late at night still wondering if they're able to make enough for rent to keep the lights on or to put food on the table.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    And yet here we are, asking for $250 million from those same families and spending it on redistricting, on carving up maps to protect politicians. Let's be real. This $250 million is not going to put a bag of groceries on the table.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    It doesn't help a mom pay for childcare, and it doesn't keep a roof over a family's head. What it does do is make life harder for the very people who are already struggling the most.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    That money could be used to keep teachers in classrooms, to reduce childcare wait lists that working parents have been stuck on for years, to Fund wildfire prevention or to expand mental health services that our communities so desperately need. Instead, Sacramento wants to waste it on politics. And that's the problem.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    Too often, this building puts the needs of politicians before the needs of the people. And that's why so many Californians, especially in working class communities and in Latino communities like mine, feel forgotten. We came here to serve the people, to serve our brothers, to serve our sisters in our neighborhoods, not to serve ourselves.

  • Kate Sanchez

    Legislator

    And the people are telling us loud and clear they cannot afford more broken promises. So I urge you, stand with our California families. Stand with the workers who are breaking their backs to give their children and their kids a better Future. Reject this $250 million power grab. Reject rigging the system against the people. Protect families, not politicians. I urge a no on SB 280.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Sanchez. Assemblymember Stefani, you are recognized.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise after a contentious week, being an elections Committee on Tuesday. And one of the things I said in that Committee was just stating the obvious. They feel one way about what is happening in Texas or what has happened in Texas, and we feel another. And I'm desperately trying to understand the other side.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    And it came to me that this is really just about power. They are okay with his power. We are not. What is happening in Texas, maybe happening in Ohio, Missouri, Florida and others doesn't scare the other side. You might say gerrymandering is wrong, but it doesn't scare you. It scares us. Scares me a lot.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    You are okay with his leadership. We are not. You are okay with his insane all caps, tweets that embarrass this country? I am not. You're okay with the rolling out of the red carpet for a murderous dictator on American soil? I am not. There are so many things about his power that scare me.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    And his attempts to increase it scare me even more. And that is why I am fine with what we Democrats are doing here today in California. Because as a Member from Palmdale said earlier in another debate. Gerrymandering is wrong when it's benefiting people. When you're doing it to wrongly benefit certain people, you shouldn't do it.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    And Texas is all too willing to redraw the lines without voter input. To. Benefit Trump, whose power scares the hell out of me. They are not just enabling Trump, they are handing him the keys, the maps and the Sharpie. We're eight months in, eight months in, no disaster relief while California's homes literally burn. Cuts to Medicaid.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    I hear a lot about health care cuts to Medicaid that the poorest of California's kids, seniors, people with disabilities, putting them at great risk. Public schools defunded, cruel, pointless immigration raids that should scare and really bother anyone if you have any empathy at all.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    Tariffs that tank, small businesses that we all care about raise prices for working people, and that includes food prices, courts stacked with extremists. These are your stupid prizes, the stupid prizes that I talked about the other day in Committee.

  • Catherine Stefani

    Legislator

    And it's going to get worse and you're going to get more, and it's not going to be on us because we are doing everything we can in California to stop it. We're not doing this to the people. We're doing this with the people. And we are asking the people on November 4th to validate our fear of Donald Trump's power. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Stefani. Assemblymember Patterson, you are recognized.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, I was fortunate enough, I'm very fortunate enough to be able to go home every day and see my family, kiss my babies good night, drop them off at school. Despite my colleague to my left, I'm always miss pre session at the caucus because dropping my kids off at school every single day.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    You know, I come into this building and I think about the things that we've worked on together. Social media, harms of our children, over processed foods that are causing detrimental impacts on our children.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    And all of us, colon cancer screenings that might not be required pretty soon together, hopefully we can get that done and through the finish line if it's not vetoed again this year. But these are things we've worked on together and many, many other things.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    And I just wonder if there's a little bit of amnesia about 90% of the work that we do together, Republicans and Democrats. Some of the things just to address the points that have been made on this floor is that Republicans joined together with you to pass resolutions about cuts occurring on the federal level.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Does anybody remember that we supported many of those resolutions, but yet we're being accused of not standing up to the man or bending at the knees, whatever that means. We joined with you on issues like that. Republicans authored a resolution today saying that we need independent redistricting everywhere, and the Democrats voted no.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    The Republican leader of our caucus, one of the most conservative individuals that I'm proud to serve with, actually said it was wrong for Republicans and the President to pressure redistricting in other states. He actually said that. And it's like the very next speech from a colleague on the other side of the aisle.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    I hear about how Republicans don't stand up to the President. All governments, including the Federal Government, no matter who's in charge, can have problems. But before we left for recess, Governor Newsom was talking. His initial statement on this. He didn't even want to put this on the ballot.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    That was his initial statement, that he would just tell you to do this. Well, guess what? Somebody told him that it's actually got to go to the people.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    But I remember my prediction that day, actually on my favorite social media platform, was, make no mistake about it, if Governor Newsom asks the majority party Democrats to pass this out of the building, they will pass it. And here we are doing exactly as I predicted. I didn't need a crystal ball.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    When he wanted to undermine Proposition 36, did anybody speak up and say, hey, you know what? That's a bad idea. Very few of you maybe behind closed doors, but who doesn't have the courage to speak up when Governor Newsom says crazy things like that, undermining Prop 36? I do.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Again, I don't want to be lectured on us not standing up. Who stood up there? By the way, most of my colleagues in this chamber Oppose Proposition 36, and it passed in every single district. 30 seconds. Ask yourself, have you even voted against a Member of your party's Bill? Some of you may have.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Some of you may have. But you know what happens? You kill it behind closed doors because you. You don't have the courage to even do a no vote. By the way, I have voted against bad Republican bills. But please do me a favor.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Don't lecture us on who has the courage to stand up, because I've never seen you say one bad word on public record about the Governor. With that, I ask for a no vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Patterson. Assemblymember Lackey, you are recognized.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    For the first time. I will tell you that I'm not proud of the way we spent our time this morning. I would. We've spent this whole this whole floor experience talking about circumstances that aren't really in our purview. We think that we're proxy Congress people today, and I think that's misplaced.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    I think we have some very severe problems here in the State of California, and we haven't spent one minute talking about them. In California. We all admit it's not broken here.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    We have an independent redistrict Commission that we're proud of the process, but we're going to get rid of it temporarily because we don't like what another state is doing. Is that really where we should be spending our time? I don't think so.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    I think it's sad that we've let the circumstances nationwide distract us from our real responsibility, and that is to the State of California residents. We have very severe affordability problems. We have insurance problems. We have all these crisis circumstances we didn't spend one minute on today. We need to be better than that. Everybody.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    And I'm not here to insult anyone either. I. I think that's shameful. I think it's shameful when we point at other people. We make them feel small, or at least try to make them feel small. Shame on all of you for doing that. I don't care if it's our people or your side or our side.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    Why are we doing that? The people expect better from all of us. And I don't normally like to raise my voice, but I'm telling you, everybody, we are better than this. I am proud to belong to this group of people, even though people that think like me are in small number.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    I'm proud of the fact that we care. But I think we can also be distracted. And that's what's happened this morning. And I'm sorry about that. And I had to express my regrets along that line. I hope we can be better from here on out. Quit insulting people that disagree with you. Make your point and make it effective. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Lackey, seeing and hearing no further debate. Excuse me. Assemblymember Schultz, you're recognized.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to actually thank my colleague from Palmdale for his remarks. I think that decorum is important in this. In this debate. Today, in response to my colleague from Rockland, I would simply say I have voted no on a colleague's Bill.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I have disagreed with the Governor, and many of you have exploited that to be very blunt in the past. The point I'm bringing up is this. We have to find a way to disagree without being disagreeable. We're not going to see eye to eye on this issue.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I'm not going to stand here and challenge or question any of your integrity or your motivations. I think that we have to find a way to move forward on the issue. ACA has passed out of this chamber of command. I believe it will pass out of the Senate and it will be signed by our Governor.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    SB280 is a companion piece of legislation that will ensure that every Californian's voice can be heard. It is essential that we pass it. I'll be voting aye, and I humbly ask all my colleagues to vote. I thank you to the authors.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Schultz, seeing and hearing no further debate. Assemblymember Pellerin, would you like to close?

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members, thank you for the robust debate on this floor today. When I woke up this morning, I knew this was going to be a tough, difficult day. And in looking for inspiration, I came across this wooden pen I had in my closet that's a memorial from the Holocaust that simply says never again.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    And I thought about the people in Germany in 1930, in those 53 days that the authoritarian dictator in their country changed the course of history forever, that resulted in millions of deaths of innocent Jewish lives.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    We are now at the 212th day of this Administration and we have been fighting every single day for the things we care about here in the State of California. We've been passing laws, we've been passing resolutions, and we've been making our voice heard for the people of the State of California.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    And at the end of this day, this is about those people, those people we represent that live in our communities, those hard working families, those moms struggling to find affordable daycare.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    It's for our seniors, our veterans, our persons with disabilities, our immigrant families who are out there making sure we have food on our table, who serve in our hospitality industries, who provide those vital health care services to our loved ones.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    These people who were herald as heroes during the pandemic are now being taken away from their families, ripped away and put in detention centers, and treated like criminals without due process. This is about the people. This is about our democracy. And we can't just fight what is happening right now with thoughts and prayers and values and principles.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    We must fight this urgent fight. And I'm sorry we don't have more time. I wish we had more time. But time is up. Texas has taken its action and California will stand up for the people of California. And we will hold this election on November 4, 2025.

  • Gail Pellerin

    Legislator

    And I am telling every eligible registered voter in this state to make sure that you get that ballot and you vote your ballot and you make sure your voice is heard. With that, I ask for your aye vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Pellerin. All debate having ceased, the Clerk will open the roll. All Members vote who desire to Members. This measure requires 54 votes. All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll and tally the votes. Ayes. 57 nos. 20 on the urgency ayes. 57 nos. 20 on the measure. The measure passes without objection. Immediate transmittal to the Senate. Assistant Majority Leader Garcia, you are recognized for your procedural motions.

  • Robert Garcia

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. AB604 has been received from the Senate. I request unanimous consent to suspend Assembly Rule 63 to allow Assemblymember Aguilar Curry to take up the Bill today without. Reference to file for the purpose of. Concurrence and Senate amendments.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Garcia. Assembly Member Flora, you are recognized.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With hold consent and ask for a roll call vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Okay. The motion has been made by Assemblymember Garcia. It is seconded by Assemblymember Ortega. This motion is not debatable. It requires 40 votes. Clerk will open the roll. All Members vote who desire to vote. System. Majority Leader Garcia is asking for an aye vote. Mr. Flor is asking for a no vote. All Members vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Clerk will close the roll and tally the votes. Ayes 54, noes 18. The rules are suspended without reference to file AB 604 by Majority Leader Aguiar-Curry for concurrence and send in amendments.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    The Clerk will read Assembly Bill 604 by Assemblymember Aguiar-Curry and accolades for redistricting, declaring the urgency thereof to take effect immediately.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Madam Majority Leader, you are recognized.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members, let's not dance around the issue here. If California Democrats had our way, the midterms would continue under the maps drawn by our independent Citizens Redistricting Commission. But that's not the moment we're in. We weren't planning on redistricting again until after the 2030 census.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    But once Republicans in other states started stacking the deck with mid decade maps designed to rig the 2026 election, we had no choice but to act. We didn't start this fight. We've said that numerous times. And we're not going to roll over.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    We have to meet the moment AB 604 lays out our new congressional districts, but only if voters approve ACA 8. This temporary map will only take effect if the voters approve it, and only because Republicans force partisan maps on voters in other states. Unlike Texas, which is imposing its maps on voters, we're asking ours for their approval.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    There's nothing more Democratic than that. The Legislator's map represents the work of the independent Redistricting Commission by keeping 76.7% of Californians in their same congressional district. The Legislature's map respects California constitutional requirements to maintain communities of interest.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    The Legislature map respects redistricting guidelines by reuniting 26 cities, reducing the breakup of local jurisdictions based upon the Citizens Redistricting Commission's work, hearings and public input. More districts are more compact, and most importantly, the people, not politicians, decide. So to my Republican colleagues, if you want to stop this, the answer isn't in this chamber.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    It's with your check with your colleagues in Texas and with the President. Tell them to stop trying to rig the elections. Tell them to support a truly fair system where every state uses an independent redistricting Commission. Colleagues. Until that happens, California cannot sit around and do nothing.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    So what happens next year is up to the President, to the national Republicans, and with this proposal to the California voters. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Majority Leader. Assemblymember Demaio, you are recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    And now we get to the map.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    The map that's the murder weapon. Killing democracy in our state.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me, Mr. DeMaio. Excuse me, Mr. Demaio. Assemblymember Harabedian. State your point of order.

  • John Harabedian

    Legislator

    The speaker is using maps. Mr. Speaker. Against the rules. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Demaio. Please refrain from using props.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    We get to the map, the murder weapon of democracy in California, the murder weapon that will end competitive elections, fair districts, exactly what voters sought to prevent in 2010 when they took the power away from you. And what did you do over the last several weeks? You proved them right.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    That you cannot be trusted to safeguard our democracy, to give us a voice. Because if we adopt this map, we are silencing millions of voters. And you seem to be comfortable with that because the ends justify the means. You've already laid out your ends. You don't like Donald Trump. We got the message. You don't like Donald Trump.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    That's what elections are for. Fair elections. You get to state your point of view. The American people get to hear. They get to decide. And they decided what you could do is get back to work for Californians.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    But you've spent the last eight months fighting the guy in the White House rather than doing the job for the constituents here in California. And now you're going to continue to not do your job and instead call an unnecessary special election to try to cram these maps through.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    So it leads the question, and there are two reasons why I'm asking this question. But it's a simple question. Who drew the maps? This is a question that you've refused to answer. The reason why we ask who drew the maps is, number one, we need to know whose interest was behind these maps.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Perhaps a sitting state Legislator that wants to create their own congressional district, or perhaps a special interest that wants to dilute the voices of certain constituencies. We deserve to know who drew the maps to know what was their interest. But secondly, I want to know who drew the maps because I want to know who to hold accountable.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    In the absence of that, there is the citizens initiative that was filed earlier this week, the poison pill to hold politicians accountable for trying to subvert the will of the voters to overturn the Citizens Redistricting Commission. That initiative would bar anyone who voted for the map or voted for the ACA today from seeking election for 10 years.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me, Mr. DeMaio. Mr. Schultz, please state your point of order.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    Thank you. Mr. Speaker would ask the speaker at the time to direct his comments to the bill and not anything external to our process today. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Schultz. Your point is well taken. Mr. Demaio, please state of the merits of the legislation.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Well, I'm trying to get the WHO because in the absence of knowing who to hold accountable for this gerrymandered map, we must hold everyone involved in the. Call it a conspiracy, a collusion, whatever you want to call it. The effort to subvert democracy. This map is partisan. You admit it's partisan.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    You want to seize congressional districts for your party. This map is self serving. A number of legislators allegedly are going to get congressional districts drawn for themselves. This map silences the voices of communities, cities and counties by splitting them up.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    And I have a colleague from San Bernardino who likes to always tell us how he fights for the tribes. But do you know that this map splits tribal reservations? Did you know that? I don't think you know that. You haven't even bothered to look at the map. Most of you. Agua Caliente is split. Santa Rosa tribe, split.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Rincon split, split. San Pasqual tribe, split. Mesa Grande split. Sequan tribe, split. Laposta tribe, split. Campo tribe, split. Morongo tribe, split. Round Valley tribes, split. Did you bother to consult the Native American governments with sovereignty? No. I checked with several of their representatives. Not a single call.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    But you split those tribal governments, scattering them across different congressional districts. So much for minority rights. So much for the voice of the people.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    We want to know who drew the maps.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    But in the absence of that, I will tell every single Californian in the next seven weeks as we educate them as to what really this initiative does. You want to hold people accountable, hold the majority party accountable for everyone who voted for this, who wasted our money.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    And by the way, Mr. Newsom, when your campaign for President ends, kindly transfer your campaign treasury over to the State of California. Thank you, Assemblymember Demaio.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you, Assemblymember Demaio. Assemblymember Tangipa, you are recognized.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause. That's what we've seen. That's the actions we've had today. I grew up always in a toxic relationship, in an abusive relationship. You could see it from a hundred miles away when you hide behind platitudes and percentages.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    When we're saying that 76% of this map remains the same, that means 24%. But in raw numbers, that means 10 million Californians. 24% of this map is only a huge majority of this state. Republicans only represent 18%. So that means 100% of the Republican representative representation in this state has changed. We could see it.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    We see the toxic relationship, the gaslighting coming out of this legislative body and we're losing transparency. That was built under the Citizens Redistricting Commission on how maps are allocated. People loved. People may not have always loved every outcome, but they knew the process was open and they knew who was responsible.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    But with the maps before us today, we can't say the same thing. In fact, we can't answer the most basic question. Who drew the maps? Who decided which cities should be kept whole and. And which should be divided? Who made the judgment call about where communities of interest begin and end?

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    I asked nine different questions and got nine different answers. Was it the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee as reported by the media? Was it Paul Mitchell and special interests as stated in a podcast? Was it Democrat leadership as stated by my colleagues on the election Committee?

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Or is it the Assembly and Senate Elections Committee as written in the bill? You couldn't even say that, and it's in the legislation that somehow it was prepared by me on the elections Committee. Couldn't even get that part right. The lack of authorship and the lack of transparency should trouble every Californian, regardless of your political ideologies.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Normally, when the Commission does its work, there are dozens, dozens of political hearings. There are transcripts. There are recorded votes. There are explanations of criteria, details about competing priorities. Here there is nothing. These maps simply appeared handed to us in 11th, in the 11th hour, even as we. As if we're supposed to take them on faith.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    But democracy doesn't run on faith. It runs on accountability. If we cannot point to the people who drew the lines, how can the voters have confidence in them? And let us look at these maps. Let's look at what these maps do.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    In city after city, neighborhoods are carved up, communities that have fought for decades to have their voices heard split all into pieces. And let. Let me ask this plainly. How does it benefit a city to be broken into small fragments across multiple congressional districts? Does Fresno gain strength by being cut into four different seats?

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Or does it simply dilute the voices of its residents? We are told that these maps protect Californians against gerrymandering in other states. You removed that language this morning and didn't even tell anybody. But secrecy is in its own form of gerrymandering.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    When lines are drawn behind closed doors without explanation, without participation, and without accountability, we invite the very abuse our Commission, the gold standard, was set out to prevent. So I ask this again. Who drew the maps? Why won't anybody say it?

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    If this is truly about fairness, why not allow the Citizens Redistricting Commission, which voters created precisely for this person, to do its job? Why rush? Why the secrecy? At the end of the day, Californians deserve to know who is Drawing the lines that will shape their communities for the next decade.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    They deserve to see the process that the process and trust that is fair. Anything less undermines the very foundation of a representative government. Our votes created the Citizens Redistricting Commission because they wanted fair maps, not political maps. They wanted a process that belongs to them.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Not politicians, not insiders, and certainly not partisan, anonymous map makers working in the shadows. California should remain a model for democracy, not a cautionary tale.

  • Celeste Rodriguez

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    If we accept maps with no known authors and no known accountability, it doesn't matter how many times you say the word transparency, there is none. The saying goes, as California goes, so goes the nation. But passing this bill, it will now be, as Texas goes, so goes California.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    And for those reasons, I respectfully ask you to lead this nation by example and vote no on these maps, because you don't even know who did them.

  • Celeste Rodriguez

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Macedo, you're recognized. Thank you, Madam Chair.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I'm not sure how many of you watched the elections committee this week, so I want to walk you through a few very key things that happened. First, there was an attorney there to be a technical witness. I asked him, who are you here on behalf of? He informed me that was protected by attorney client privilege.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I asked him, who is paying you to be here? Once again, he wouldn't answer that question. So then I asked, are you being paid to be here? Once again, he didn't answer that question. So then, as my colleagues have stated, I asked the most fundamental and simplest of questions. Who drew the maps?

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    So let me share the answers. I was shared with. First, it was Assembly. Here we are. Put your hands in the air if you drew the maps. Didn't see one go in the air. So then I was told it was the Legislature. Once again, here we are. I'm part of the Legislature. I didn't draw these maps.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    So then I was mocked for not being a part of leadership. That leadership and the leadership team drew these maps. The leadership team's here. Anybody want to own up to it? Our majority leader admitted she did not directly draw these maps, and she is leadership. Is this the type of transparency you're promising voters that?

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I was mocked for asking that question. You're not mocking me. You're mocking voters by not answering that question. These maps, in the language it says the Assembly Elections Committee wrote it. That is seven people. Seven. Me and my colleague can say we did not participate in the drawing of these maps.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    So I am asking that this is factually incorrect in the bill, and I am asking the author to Remove the words the Assembly Elections Committee and include the Democrat colleagues on that Committee that are willing to put their names on paper that they drew these maps because I will not be included in the debauchery that has happened with the drawing of these maps.

  • Celeste Rodriguez

    Legislator

    Are you requesting to ask a question of the author?

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I'm requesting that the author takes the amendment that we remove the Assembly Elections Committee language because I do not want. I am one of seven people that is a small group of people that you have lumped me in with when I didn't even know. My member

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    portal did not even say that I had an Elections Committee hearing until 20, less than 24 hours before the hearing. Concurrences cannot be amended. Then I am asking a question of the author.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I will address this without objection. I will address this in my clothes.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    Thank you. This is not transparency, and you know it's not. You can stand here and admonish us all day long, but this is fundamental to your entire lecture today, that this is the most transparent process. The chair of this Committee didn't even know that the maps had been amended.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    And you want to say that the Elections Committee drafted these maps. This is wrong. This is deceit. And I will make sure the voters know that.

  • Celeste Rodriguez

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Flora, you're recognized.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    Thank you. Madam Speaker, colleagues, there's been a lot said today and I'll keep my remarks very short. There's a lot of emotions today on both sides. Clearly there's a lot of emotions with the Federal Government on how people feel about that.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    Not a single one of us have said what Texas is doing is good, what California is about to do is good. But it's because of emotions and because of that emotion we have policy. If you do policy that is emotional, it usually turns out bad in one way or the other.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    So I rise on behalf of a community 33 miles south of here, community of just under 69,000 people called Lodi. Lodi is split into three congressional districts almost in the center of town. A community that is by and large family have been there for generations. A farming community. We have now split that.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    Parents voting differently than their kids, than their grandparents, colleagues. When we do things that are emotional, we get bad policy. When we talk about keeping communities together. Splitting a community of 68,000 people is simply wrong.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    And my heart truly goes out to Lodi and I know there's other examples that have been stated, but this needs to be fixed. It truly, truly does. We need to take the emotion out of policy so we can create good policy and we Move forward. Thank you. I respectfully ask for a no vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Flora. Assemblymember Patterson, you are recognized.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the opportunity today. You know, these. These maps. I'm going to answer a question for one of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. The worst kept secret in Sacramento history. There aren't very many secrets in this place. This is definitely not one.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    I was looking at an exchange between two members of our press corps where one Member kept asking elected officials, because, you know, maybe elected officials answer these questions like, who drew these maps? And you know, that question was kind of asked a lot because, you know, it's an important question.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    And another member of the Press Corps said, oh, come on, everybody knows who drew the maps. Actually, they were just on a podcast saying they drew the maps. So the worst kept secret in America is that Democratic consultant Paul Mitchell drew these maps and told you all to adopt it. And so there's no secret.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    We all knew that. We all know that. But I think what's interesting is that what's even not a secret is that one of the presenters of the bill said something, and I want to ask the. The author, and I'll put down my mic.

  • Joe Patterson

    Legislator

    One of the co presenters had mentioned in committee said specifically, these are partisan, gerrymandered maps. That is what was said in committee by our co presenter. And I would just like to know if that's your feeling as well with that. Also, I respectfully ask for a no vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Patterson. Assemblymember Gallagher, you are recognized.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Yeah, thank you, Mr. Speaker. And first of all, I just want to say I do write all of my own speeches. You know, I don't need the governor's press office to write my speeches like the speaker does. And.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Just a moment, Mr. Gallagher. Assemblymember Berman, you're recognized.

  • Marc Berman

    Legislator

    I would ask in his own words, definitely not the gentleman. Not the gentleman. The person from Nicholas. Not to insult people on the floor and to keep his comments to the bill that we're debating.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Berman. Your point is well taken. Leader Gallagher, Please do not impugn. Please be respectful, be decorous. Follow the rules of debate.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    As always, I only speak the truth, and I can do no other, Mr. Speaker. And you know, and apparently the majority leader's speech was written yesterday because she read those remarks.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    You're out of order, Mr. Gallagher. This is the last warning. If you don't abide by the rules of this House, we will move on.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    In her remarks, she says that this is only if Texas moves forward. And we all know from the amendment this morning that Texas is not a condition of moving forward with this partisan gerrymander. But let's just talk actually about you guys saying fighting fire with fire, like what is actually happening.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Because right now, actually Texas and California are very similar. The minority party in both states gets about 40% of the vote. Democrats get about 40% in Texas. Here in California, we get around 40% here on statewide votes. But right now, Texas congressional delegation is made up of 30% Democrats. Right.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    You know how much it is here in California? 17%. So already disparity. And even if Texas does move forward, they would be, if they're successful in getting five seats in Texas, they'd actually still be better than us in representation because 18% of the delegation would be Democrats.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And meanwhile, here at 17 and what you guys are doing with these maps is taking us down to 7%. That's fair. That's representation. That's fire with fire. Seems like a sledgehammer. And more importantly, it's not about party. It's about taking away people's rights of representation.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Places, places that have meaning, that have values, that have certain views on they share industries. And you can't sit here and tell me that a map for all of us to see from Modoc to Marin County is fair representation, that that meets the constitutional principles of compactness that are in our Article 21 of the Constitution.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    It specifically says districts shall not be drawn to encourage geographic. That they shall be drawn to encourage geographical compactness such that nearby areas of population are not bypassed from more distant population. And that's exactly what that map does. And you know it. And the majority leader knows this because we both represent districts.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And I think we do it pretty well. We stand up for our people. We fight for the things that are in their interest. We represent them well. And in Congress I have A representative Doug LaMalfa who does that. And you have one Mr. Mike Thompson who does the same thing.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And those congressmen actually work together on a lot of issues, on water issues in that bipartisan fashion actually is very helpful when administrations change. But what this is going to do is blow that all up and create a one party system. And here's the other thing. Who gets to decide who gets represented? Not the people.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    The parties and the party insiders and the people who have the favored inside track. And I'm only saying what's been reported is that one of the most powerful politicians in this Legislature, the pro tem, is reported to have been involved in drawing a district that favors him that he plans to run in.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    I don't know if that's a fact, but it has been reported.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    30 seconds.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    I think that's a big problem that the people don't long get to choose who the representative is, but the party insiders do, and that is the real issue here.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And guys, I'm just gonna end on this because it is important you don't stand up to this Governor. You never have. And he is doing wrong things and he is pushing you and he insults the time and says he jams you. And this is what he's got to do and he's going to push it through.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    And for all this talk, man, that I've heard on this floor today, I just don't understand it.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    While you always bow and go to the beck.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Gallagher.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Gallagher. Assemblymember Ellis, you are recognized.

  • Stan Ellis

    Legislator

    I'd like to know who drew the maps.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Ellis. Assemblymember Davies, you are recognized.

  • Laurie Davies

    Legislator

    On behalf of 500,000 Californians, I'd like to know who do the maps.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Davies. Assemblymember Dixon.

  • Diane Dixon

    Legislator

    I too, on behalf of Assembly District. 72500,000 Californians who drew the maps.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Dixon. Assemblymember Mark Gonzalez, you are recognized.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Let's be clear, Members. I write my own talking points, so let's start with that. And let's also be clear that the maps didn't just come out of thin air. They were drawn through California's process with experts and community input years ago. Don't act brand new.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    What frustrates me is that people keep obsessing over who held the pen instead of why these maps even matter in the first place. This isn't a Scooby Doo mystery. There's no mask to rip off, no hidden villain. The process was open, transparent and accountable from day one. And let's be honest, the hypocrisy is glaring.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Reporters aren't grilling Republicans in Texas about who's drawing their maps, even though those maps are blatant gerrymandering designed to silence voters and lock in power. I don't hear anybody on the right side saying that because they know that they're wrong. But here in California, we followed the rules and did it right. Suddenly it's treated like a scandal.

  • Mark Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Meanwhile, Republicans in Texas, Florida and across the country are actively rigging districts to silent voters and protect Donald Trump, your hero. California is not going to sit back and let them Cheat their way into power. These maps are about protecting our democracy and making sure every community here has a fair voice. Period.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Gonzalez. Assemblymember Gallagher, state your point of order.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Point of- My point of order this, Mr. Speaker, is there's been a lot of things that misstate the facts in the record through our Committee process. And what we know today on the floor. One is that the election.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me, Mr. Gallagher. What is the rule that has been violated? State your point of order.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Misstates the testimony and the record.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Your point is not well taken.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Appeal. Assemblymember. Assemblymember Ramos, you are recognized. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    And I'm sitting here and hearing the different debates going on from colleagues from both sides of the aisle. But I have to raise my mic and be able to talk about when a colleague from the other side is talking about history, talking about California's first people and drawing them into this conversation. Where was that voice?

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Where was that voice when this state was taken from them? Where was that voice when their representation isn't there? Where was that voice when they were being murdered in the State of California? And now you want to bring them into this debate because it benefits you. These are things that we have to come together and look at.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    But when you start to exploit the history in the State of California and for your own gain is the same tactics that were used when this land was stolen and murdered people of our culture to get it.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    I would rather you stand up for all of those things, all those bad things, than to bring them in to justify your seeing what's going on here. You should not, and you should be ashamed of yourself to bring in the history.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Because we all know in these chambers, the atrocity, the genocide, the bloods that shed and the bones that are still in the archives of many institutions in this state who still call our remains of our ancestors trophies in their backyard. It's time that we come together.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    And if you want to bring things forward for your own gain, this body will not stand for it. It's time that we stand for the voices of all California Indian people and stand up when they are brought into these debates for your own gain. That's the same tactic that was used in colonization.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    And Mr. Speaker, I called the Member out. I called the Member out for using our people for self gain. That's what brought down the State of California. That's what the history is, what we're still fighting for in the State of California.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    And when he brings up lines in land that has been drawn, drawn on stolen land, come on. He should be reprimanded for even bringing those things forward to this floor. It's time that we stand in one unified voice. And when we talk about debate, let's have it.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    But if you want to go back into history and start to look at what has happened and somehow smirk and smile about the murders that took place against our people, this body will not stand for it.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you. Assemblymember Ramos. Assemblymember Demaio, you are recognized.

  • Carl DeMaio

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, I believe the Member from San Bernardino would like to change his vote on ACA 8.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Demaio, your point is not well taken. Assemblymember Macedo, you are recognized.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    Mr. Speaker, I have a point of parliamentary inquiry.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    State your point.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I would like to ask if it would be possible to submit a letter to the Journal based on my colleague's testimony that we are willing to say who drew the maps. That it is not the Assembly Elections Committee. That based on his testimony.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Assemblymember Macedo, you're asking whether or not it is appropriate.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I am asking.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me. You're asking. Let me finish. Whether or not you can submit a letter to the Journal. Why you're submitting a letter to the Journal is irrelevant to your inquiry. Is that your question?

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    Yes, sir.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Just a moment, Miss Macedo.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    So, Ms. Macedo, to answer your question, it is appropriate if you have a letter. Where is that letter?

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I was unaware that the testimony would be given on the 4th.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me. Please answer the question. Where is your letter?

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I cannot prepare for something if I'm not backed up about it.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    The answer to your inquiry is if you had a letter, we would be able to vote whether or not that letter could be accepted.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    Then I asked my motion for recess to draft my letter, and then we can come back and vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    It has been moved and seconded that we recess. Just a moment, please. It's been moved and seconded that we recess temporarily. Takes a majority of those present and voting. Clerk will open the roll. Clerk will open the roll. Motion by Macedo. We'll wait till the roll. All those vote who desire to vote.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Ms. Macedo is asking for an aye vote. Majority Leader is asking for a no vote. All those vote who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 19. Noes 52. The motion fails. State your point of order, Mr. Gallagher.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    Yes, Mr. Speaker. Let me try to address this issue. State your point of order, Mr. Gallagher. The point of order is that the bill says that the Elections Committee drew the maps, and that is factually incorrect based on the testimony. Okay, Your point is not well taken.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, let's take a step back for a moment. Let me give you a quick lesson on what a point of order is. When you raise your microphone for a point of order, you need to state the rule that's being violated. And we're speaking of the House rules. That is the point of order that you need to make.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Gallagher, I'm going to recognize you again.

  • James Gallagher

    Legislator

    The point of order is it factually misstates the testimony in the record, in the legislative record factor.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Gallagher. That is not a violation of the House rules. Your point is not well taken. We will continue proceeding on debate on this measure, seeing and hearing no further debate. Assembly Member Gallagher, you have already spoken on the point of order. Mr. Gallagher, you are out of order. Seeing and hearing no further debate.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Madam Majority Leader, do you wish to close?

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Thank you, colleagues, for this debate. And I want to thank you to my colleague, Senator Gonzalez, for partnership in this important issue. Let me answer some of the questions that were raised here today and over this week. The map in AB 604 was drawn in partnership with a group that includes legislative leadership and a team of its members.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Members of Congress, leading independent redistricting experts and groups that have worked on more than 100 city and county nonpartisan independent redistricting efforts and legal counsel to review and assure we meet all the requirements of our state and and the federal laws and constitutions.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    We use the work of the Independent Commission and their many hours of hearings and public testimony. Our maps keeps more cities whole, 60 compared to 57 in the Commission's map. We respected constitutional guidelines, including communities of interest and seeking more compact and contiguous districts.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    In fact, under this map, 76.7 of Californians stay in the same district drawn by the Commission. The Commission maps were public for 14 days and approved by 14 commissioners. These maps will be public for 74 or 75 days. I gotta remember that. And tens of millions of California voters.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Majority Leader. Madam Majority Leader, Just a moment, please. Assembly Member Tangipa, you are recognized for your point of order.

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    Well, and a point of clarification. The comments. Sir, you are recognized for your point of order. The comments that were made are not in the legislation. And those comments should be included in the legislation if that's what's being.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    That is not a point of order. If you're saying that her speech is not germane to the Bill, your point is not well taken. Anything further, Mr. Tangipa?

  • David Tangipa

    Legislator

    A point of clarification.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Tangipa. We're going to continue. Madam Majority Leader, you may continue.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    This is the most transparent than any other process in the country. In an ideal world. In an ideal world, we not need to go through this process. We respect the work of the independent Redistricting Commission. In fact, the only challenges to the work of the Independent Redistricting Commission map came from the Republican challenges in 2011.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Those challenges did not give voters a chance to decide. And yes, the cost is worth it. We are fighting to ensure Californians have at least a fair chance in next year's election. And the stakes are high. Maybe that's why the Republicans in this country are so afraid to let the voters have a say.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Maybe it's because they know why this President and Washington Republicans are trying to rig the 2026 elections. They can't run on their record. A record that in seven short months have been devastating to working Californians and Americans across the country while benefiting only the wealthy.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    A record that includes cutting fresh food from family farmers that feeds our school children, closing rural hospitals and clinics, cutting health care for 3.5 million California seniors and. And the most in need, separating immigrant families who work in and contribute to our communities. Families guilty of nothing.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Not nothing, but they just want to seek a better life and Turning the clock back 50 years on women's reproductive rights. If you want to stop this.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Excuse me, Madam Majority Leader.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Pardon me.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assemblymember Macedo recognized for your point of order.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    I have my letter prepared and would like to submit it to the record based on the testimony on the floor today.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    That is not a point of order. Point of point is not well taken. Elementary. Excuse me. We're not in motions and resolutions. Your point is not well taken.

  • Alexandra Macedo

    Legislator

    You asked me for my letter.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, we're in the last minute of debate. We do not use parliamentary procedure as a mechanism to debate bills. Madam Majority Leader may continue.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    If you want this to stop. The easiest way to do this would be to use all this passion demanding this President to stop trying to rig next year's elections. Help your DC Colleagues pass Democratic and Republican bills to prevent mid decade gerrymandering and have an independent redistricting process in every single state.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Until you succeed, we will continue to fight for the interests of Californians. Colleagues, I am very proud to ask you for your aye vote today for AB 604.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, madam Majority Leader. All debate having ceased, the Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Members, this measure requires 54 votes. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. Ayes 54. Noes 20 on the urgency.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Eyes 54 knows 20 on the measure. Senate amendments are concurred in without objection. Immediate transmittal to the Governor. Members, we now must continue with business on the daily file reading of the previous day's journal.

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  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Leader Aguiar Curry, moves and Mr. Flora seconds that the reading of the previous day's journal be dispensed with presentations and petitions. There are none. Introduction and reference of bills will be deferred. Reports of committees will be deemed read and amendments deemed adopted. Messages from the Governor? There are none. Messages from the Senate? There are none.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Moving on to motions and resolutions. The absences for the day for bereavement. Assemblymember Addis moving back to procedural motions. Madam Majority Leader, you're recognized for your procedural motions.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I request unanimous consent to suspend Assembly Rule 45.5 to allow Assembly Members Alanis, Sharpe, Collins and Wicks to speak on adjournment and memory today.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    That. Objection. Such shall be the order.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I request unanimous consent to suspend Assembly rule 118A to allow Assembly Members Alanis, Quirk-Silva and Wicks to have guests in the rear of the chamber today.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Not objection. Such shall be the order.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    I request unanimous consent to rescind the action whereby on July 17, 2025 SB2 55 Sierrato was read a third time passed and sent to the Senate. Please order this bhill back to the third reading file without objection.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Such shall be the order. Members, I'm rescinding the action by which I referred AB 786 Salache to the Banking and Finance Committee pursuant to Assembly Rule 77.2.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Madam Majority Leader, I request unanimous consent to return AB 786 Salache to the Senate for further action without objection. Such shall be the order.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Mr. Alanis, we're going to be getting to you in just a moment please. Members, the quorum call is in place. We have more business on the daily file. Please take your desk. Moving to business on the daily file. Second reading the Clerk will read Senateville's.

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  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Okay all be all bills will be deemed written all amendments will be deemed adopted as the items on concurrence. Excuse me Madam Majority leader, you are recognized.

  • Cecilia Aguiar-Curry

    Legislator

    Yes. At the request of the author, please move file item 30 SB 97 Grayson to the inactive file.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Kirk will note now we're going to the items on concurrence going to pass and retain on all items. Getting to the Assembly Third reading going to pass and retain on all items. Senate Third Reading File Item 77145 we're going to pass and retain on all items other than file item 145, which has been dispensed with Members.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    We are now lifting the call on the consent calendar. Clerk will post on the consent calendar all those vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. All Members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally the votes. I77, no. 0 consent calendar is adopted.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Clerk will read the remaining items on consent.

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    Legislator

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  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Members, we're moving on to adjournment's memory. The quorum call remains in place. Please give our respectful attention to those who are granted prior permission to speak on their adjournment. In memory. Please take all conversation off the floor. Please take all conversations off the floor.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Assembly Member Alanis, you are recognized for your adjournment and memory.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And first off, I just want to apologize to the family for having us take so long to have you guys recognized. So thank you for your patience.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    Colleagues, it's with a heavy heart that I ask that we adjourn in memory for Avery Roxanne Melleric Avery will be remembered as a compassionate young woman who brought light into any room she walked into.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    Avery was taken from this world too soon following a car accident on June 21st of this year, Avery was pursuing her love for cinematic film arts at the California State University, Northridge and spent her summer breaks giving back to the Modesto community. At Camp Taylor in my district, she gave back.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    As a camp counselor, Avery was focused on improving the lives of children with heart conditions. Camp Taylor is only one of eight medically supervised camps focused on serving children with heart disease.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    After graduation, Avery hoped to combine her love for film and her passion for the children at Camp Taylor by making documentaries about the stories of children born with heart conditions. Avery's cheerful personality will continue to shine through memories with her competitive cheer team serving as a role model to young children and energetically cheering on the Sacramento Kings.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    Avery chose to be an organ donor, a decision that shaped by personal experiences with her brother Ethan and her best friend Anneliese, both who have received heart transplants. Through her final act of generosity, Avery continues to touch lives and saved others.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    Today we are joined by Avery's beloved family here in the back of the room, including her mother, Sierra, her older brother Ethan, her stepfather Jason, her aunts Joanna and Vanessa, and her Camp Taylor friends and family, who are also up in the gallery.

  • Juan Alanis

    Legislator

    I want to extend my condolences to Avery's family, her friends, and the Camp Taylor community. Thank you for allowing me to honor Avery's life here on the Assembly floor, and I ask that we adjourn in memory of Avery. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Alanis. Members, let us observe a moment of silence to honor the life of Avery Roxanne Millerick. Just a moment, Ms. Wicks. Assembly Member Wicks, you are recognized for your adjournment and memory.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members, I rise to adjourn in the memory of Zona Roberts, an unwavering champion of the of disability rights and a trailblazer of the independent living movement. Zona was born in Portland in 1920 and grew up between Oregon and California.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    She met her husband, Vern Roberts through a mutual friend in high school, and they had four sons together. Zona's eldest son, Ed Roberts, contracted polio in 1953 when he was only 14 years old. Ed spent 18 months in the hospital, and when he was finally able to come home, he did so as a quadriplegic.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    This spurred Zona's transformation into a tireless advocate for inclusion and accessibility, battling educational, medical, and societal bureaucracies and prejudice. She was steadfast in her fight for Ed to have the rights and opportunities that he deserved, starting with his right to go to school.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    She worked alongside Ed to establish support for individuals with disabilities, both at the University of California and in the broader East Bay community. At the age of 44, Zona enrolled at UC Berkeley, where she received her bachelor's degree and her teaching credential.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    During that time, her Berkeley home, known as the Greenhouse, became a gathering place not just for disabled students, but also for teachers, doctors, riders, and visitors, studying the growing community of disability activists. Through those gatherings, she created one of the earliest models of independent living. Zona passed away on January 10th at the age of 104.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    She was preceded by her beloved sons, Ed, Ron, and Randy. She is survived by her son Mark, her grandchildren, and great grandchildren. She also leaves behind an endless number of friends who will miss her dearly.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    We can all learn from Zona's unwavering belief in human dignity and the tenacity with which she advocated not only for her son, but for every disabled person to realize their potential. Zona's contributions will continue to resonate and the fight for equity and dignity for every individual. Her legacy will live on in communities and across this nation.

  • Buffy Wicks

    Legislator

    Zona's son, Mark, and many of her friends and family are with us here today in the gallery to celebrate her amazing and purposeful life. I respectfully ask that the Assembly join me in adjourning in her memory today.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assembly Member Wicks. Members, let us observe a moment of silence to honor the life of this historic Californian, Zona Roberts. Assemblymember Sharp Collins. You are recognized for your adjournment and memory.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I rise to remember a man whose name became synonymous with leadership, dedication and service to the City of La Mesa, located in San Diego, the Honorable Arthur Art Madrid. Art's story is one of perseverance, service, and deep commitment to community.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    Born in New Mexico in 1934, Art came to La Mesa as a teenager, quickly developing the strong sense of civic pride that would define his life's work. He served his country in the United States Marine Corps and later worked for Pacific Belle, a man who knew both the discipline of service and the value of hard work.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    ARC's political journey began with his work for the then San Diego Mayor, Pete Wilson. But it was in La Mesa that his public service truly flourished. Elected to City Council in 1981 and then as mayor in 1990, Art will lead the city for 24 years, a remarkable run marked by his vision, tenacity and results.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    He never shied away from bold action, even when it brought national headlines, as in 1994 when he took on a controversial stand against prostitution within our community. His leadership was recognized far and wide.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    The American Society of Public Administrators named him San Diego's County's outstanding elected official, and the San Diego Magazine listed him Amongst the top 50 people to watch as they knew about his millennial approach beyond our city limits.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    Art shaped regional and statewide policy as Chair of the San Diego Association of Governments, President of the San Diego Division of the League of California Cities, and President of the California Council of Governments. He believed deeply in collaboration and that cities and communities were stronger when they worked together.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    His courage as a public servant was matched only by his resilience as a person. For all of his public accomplishments, Art's greatest devotion was to his family. He and his beloved wife, Sally, shared decades together, raising four children. Life dealt them heartbreaking losses with the passing of their son to cancer and later Sally's own passing in 2003.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    Yet even in grief, Art continued to serve, guided by a belief in giving back to the community that he truly loved. Art Madrid passed away peacefully at his La mesa home on June 6, 2025 at the age of 90.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    And I can tell you, all the way up until that time, he was still advocating and fighting for his community. Today, we remember not only a mayor, but a neighbor, a veteran, a husband, a. A father, and a friend.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    His life reminds of that true public service is not measured just in years served or titles held, but in the lasting differences made in people's lives. So we honor his memory by continuing the work that he has so passionately believed in and building a community that is safe, strong, and united.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    So, although today I am standing here saying goodbye, just know that we will also say thank you. And I'll continue to say thank you to Art for everything that he has done. So thank you, Mayor Madrid, for your leadership, your courage, and your heart. And your city will never, ever forget you. Thank you.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Thank you, Dr. Sharpe Collins. Members, please bring the names to the desk to be printed in the Journal. All requests to adjourn in memory will be deemed read and printed in the Journal. Moving on to announcements session schedules as follows. Friday, August 22nd. There's no floor session, no check in session.

  • Josh Lowenthal

    Legislator

    Monday, August 25th, floor session at 1pm See? And hearing no further business, I'm ready to entertain a motion to adjourn. Madam Majority leader moves, and Mr. Patterson seconds that this House stands adjourned till Monday, August 25th, at 1:00pm Quorum call is lifted and we are adjourned.

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