Assembly Budget Subcommittee No. 2 on Human Services
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I prefer to be David Alvarez. Good afternoon. This is, again, a joint hearing of the Assembly Budget Committee number two on human services and the Assembly Budget Subcommittee number three on education finance. As always, I want to thank, Assemblymember David Alvarez, for, continuing year after year committing to these joint committees hearings, so that we can make sure that we are breaking down silos.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
At the end of the day, we're talking about the same children, the same families, and we need to make sure that we have a truly integrated and coordinated, ECE, system to ensure that our young people are on a on our pathway to be able to thrive.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And so we are going to just jump into our first panel. So come on up for the first panel. As always, at this time, it may change. Not sure yet. But at this time, we're gonna wait until all panels are done in order to have a public comment.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Public comment is going to be two minutes. I want you all to utilize this time to practice your two minute public comment. Practice. Get your stopwatches out and make sure it is timed appropriately. As you know, the governor's budget provides 3,000,000,000 for state preschool.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Of this amount, 2,000,000,000 in proposition 98 journal fund for programs offered by LEAs, and 1,000,000,000 is for programs offered by non LEAs as well. This budget does not, at this time, propose increasing slots, but we want to make sure that the slots that we do have continue, to move to be high quality, and making sure that they address the diverse needs, of course, of our families. Our families don't all look the same.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
How they all are, conducting their households don't look the same nor do they all have nine to five type jobs either. And so we need to make sure that once again, systems are designed for the needs of our families and not make and making sure that our systems are not trying to make sure, that our families are trying to meet the system's needs.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Right? We have to make sure that we get it right. So with that, this first panel is really on the state of preschool, which is something near and dear to my heart. I used to be employ an employee of Los Angeles Universal Preschool back in the day, and, always looking for ways that we can and and, actually, for the last two years, I don't think we paid enough attention to this particular subject in terms of our state preschool.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And so I wanted to make sure that we take a deeper dive into this, continue to reestablish or reengage what the vision is, so that we can make sure that, we are doing, our oversight responsibility, for this as well.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So with that, we are going we'll start off with our first, panel, and we'll start off with, a Learning Policy Institute to kick us off.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Thank you. Good morning. I'm Hanna Melnick from the, Learning Policy Institute. I'm the director of early learning policy. In my remarks, I'm gonna be talking about, first, how we are doing in terms of preschool access for four year olds and three year olds.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
I'll then identify some recommendations for how we could further expand access. California's master plan lays out a goal to provide high quality preschool to all four year olds, which research suggests
- Hanna Melnick
Person
has lasting effects for children and families. And my colleagues and I recently analyzed data from the California pre k and childcare programs to see how we're doing towards this goal. We saw that the number of children served has set climbed steadily over the past five years, mainly due to TK, but also in part due to the growth of four year old enrollment and subsidized child care. Over the same period, the total number of four year olds in the state declined.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
So as a result of both of these trends, California went from serving just 42% of our four year olds in 2019 to 62%, last year across our public programs.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
On the whole, this is pretty good news. Sixty two percent of all four year olds enrolled is about on par with other states that offer universal pre k, and it's a lot of progress from where we were just six years ago. The master plan also lays out a goal to serve all three year olds from low income households since research shows that two years of preschool, is especially beneficial for this group as well as for multilingual learners.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And our analysis shows that California is making progress and expanding access for three year olds, but at a much less rapid pace than for fours. Between 2019 and 2024, we saw the greatest growth in three year old enrollment in subsidized childcare. CSPP enrollment has also increased steadily since the start of the pandemic, although we're still a little bit behind where we were in 2019. Overall, three year old enrollment has increased by about four year old 4,000 children in the past six years.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
So we've gone from serving twenty one percent of our three year olds in 2019 to twenty five percent of all three year olds last year. Now that's all incomes. When we look just at children from low income households, specifically those who are earning 85% or less, of state median income, we're serving about 44% of our, three year olds from low income households. This is better access than in many states, but it's still far from achieving the goals of the master plan.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
So that leads us to another question on the agenda. What would it take to increase access to high quality pre k? My colleagues and I conducted case studies in four cities and districts across California to help understand what mixed delivery preschool looks like when done well. And we've identified several recommendations, and I'll share some of them right now. One is to invest in universal application and enrollment systems. We have a lot of public pre k programs in California, and they can be very difficult for families to navigate.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
So I'll point to the examples from Long Beach and San Francisco who have built platforms that allow families to find care near them, figure out what financial aid they're eligible for, apply in one place, and enroll, either doing this on their own or with a family navigator or a family resource center. We have invested in some of these in the past, but they and they'll be discussed in the third panel, but none yet has the full functionality that we need.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Another thing the state could do is to support universal access in low income neighborhoods, especially for our three year olds. The state already allows this through the CSPP neighborhood eligibility provision, which states that all two, three, and four year olds can attend CSPP if they live in a zone, a school zone, where 80% of students are on free and reduced price meals. However, the data show that not many providers are using this provision, so the legislature could look into ways to you increase this use.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
For example, by building awareness or making it easier to enroll new children. Another thing the legislature could do is to fund facility renovation grants to help convert four year old classrooms into ones that are appropriate for younger children. San Francisco provided these kinds of grants when they were expanding their infant toddler care, and it allowed providers to add the sinks, changing tables, square footage that you need to serve younger kids.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
The state could also support school districts that are have declining enrollment to convert their schools for early learning and care as was done in alum rock union, and I'm hearing a crop is happening more and more across the state. And finally, the single most important part of expanding a high quality care is supporting a high quality workforce.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And right now, many providers are struggling to retain their teachers because pay is so low. Teachers in pre k and childcare centers earn 30 to 40% less than TK teachers. Family childcare providers earn even less still. So to close this compensation gap, we the state could provide additional funding to providers. We're on a path to do this through rate reform, but I just wanted to stress that that's also gonna be key to expanding access.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And finally, just in terms of quality and, the workforce, we also need to make sure we're paying attention to professional development so that our teachers have the support they need day to day. We invest relatively little in professional development for our preschool teachers, and we have, some big funding streams that are about to expire, like the quality counts funding and early educator teacher development grants. So California could really support its, high quality preschool by support building a network of coaching and professional development.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
We have examples across the state, like San Francisco, El Dorado, and San Diego that we can build from. So thank you.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
You can find more information in the agenda from our reports, and I'm happy to answer questions.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
good afternoon. I'm doctor Lupe Jaime Milam, deputy director of the childcare and development division, and good to be here. So I'm gonna start with just some opening statements, and then I'll jump into the questions. Before I start specifically with the questions, then I wanna just remind ourselves about where we are and the excitement in regards to our investments.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Our program does provide both voucher base as well as state contracted direct service programs in recognition of the central and positive end caps of the early in learning on families that California has made historic investments and the programs in these recent years to help families thrive.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
This the investments and program changes that have helped led to these goals also are reflected in the master plan of early learning and care, which is a road map in regards to these investments. In the last few years, we have nearly doubled, the funding in regards to the childcare and development program going from 3,300,000,000.0 when the first when these programs first transferred over to CDSS to 6,600,000,000.0, pretty remarkable, in just a couple years.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
We've increased the maximum number of children served annually from 294,000 approximately at the very beginning to now 366,700 per month, And then made real progress in each of these four goals and that includes the master plan with, of course, the collaboration and partnership with state agencies such as this California Department of Education and, of course, our ECE partners in regards to this work.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so this includes doubling the number of enrollments in two to five year olds across the childcare and development program, which strengthens through our mixed delivery system, which is a solid foundation of this. So now I'll turn to the questions.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
With the administration's priority of the master plan, what's yet not achieved as well as children focus on children from ages zero to five. So master plan, of course, is a road map like I've mentioned that improves early learning and it's a plan for ten years. And we're anticipating as we're moving into our sixth year of this publication that we continue to, check off more and more some of these goals. Working with our many partners, including the legislator, of course, who've made these advancements.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
As noted, we continue to work with urgency, but know that there is still areas where we can continue to do more.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
An example of that is our goal one of the master plan itself. One of the recommendations is to look at the California work opportunity and responsibility for kids, which is the CalWORKs stages. Just a little bit of background on that, they currently serve families that, are in, that are enrolled, in CalWORKs or entering the CalWORKs stores. We currently serve a 148,000 a 113 children. Gives you an idea of the number of children that we serve through this through these programs.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And what the master plan would like to do is really look at how to simplify that system, both for access for families as well as, the administration of it. So simplicity. As a result, in 2025, we launched the work first starting with hearing from our families. Wanna know what their experiences are and how we can learn from those experiences, and then also learning from those focus groups also the workforce.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
What are their experiences as a center, childcare provider, family, friend, and neighbor who is receiving this voucher, and what is those what is those experiences.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Next, we took those those focus groups voices in a sense and then pulled together a a work group that included both administrators from the CalWORKs side, so our county partners, as well as our alternate payment side and work through these meetings to really think about, what we heard from this initial report and what recommendations and etcetera.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
This is gonna be a to be continued because we are wrapping up that report, and so we hope to be able to publish it so we can continue to have further conversations on what we're learning there. And so that is something of an example that is in the works in regards to that too. I'm gonna jump because of time on question number two, but happy to add more examples as you as more questions come up too.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Question number two has to do with what more can we do for preschool needs to open appropriate spaces for three year olds in the content of UTK, and what policies and what could be as one time funding.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Childcare and development funding administrated by CDSS serves eligible families from ages infants to 13, and two through five year olds is an intricate part of that. Under the multi year slot expansion, two and three year olds were the fastest growing age groups. So I'm gonna take a moment to just call out some stats because I think it's a moment that we definitely need to celebrate together. Across all programs, enrolled two year olds grew by a 105%.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So we started off with nine in the transfer with 19,000. Now we're at 39,000. I'm sorry. 1,900 and then three I'm wishful thinking, 3,900. And then in row three and four years grew a 126%. Right?
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So 6,660 to thirty seven six hundred and seventy between '21 and 2025, exceeding the overall enrollment of 87%. If I look at our title five, which is our CCTR program, we saw the biggest growth in our three year olds increased by 426%, which was, again, 685 at the beginning and now 3,600 of that. And so CCTR also experienced a double doubling of enrollment for two year olds between 2021 and 2025, 5830 to November.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so similar significant growth in two and three year olds also happened on the alternative side of the voucher side too. And specifically, cap for the two year olds increased by a 180%, and and then three year olds at 200%.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So huge expansion. No. We can do more, but definitely wanna make sure we're we're celebrating this again. CDSS continues to support the wide range of options through the mixed delivery system, both for families that we know need nontraditional hours and flexible schedule for their certified need.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so one of the pieces that the legislator partnered with us was on the slot expansion is that when we had when we had rolled out the CCTR, we had an uptake of contractors that focused on family childcare home educational networks that were then able to serve, those certified hours that traditionally, other, other efforts or other settings may not be able to.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And then lastly, in terms of the workforce, right, for this particular question, through our quality investments, we do, invest into a California preschool instructional network, CPIN. They provide professional training as well as coaching focused on the preschool foundations and frameworks. But most importantly, we brought in their scope of work to include licensed family childcare home providers, in that too. Now in terms of question number four, and I will defer to our department of finance in regards to question number three. So we'll circle back that in a minute.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
But question number four about what is needed for supports accessing high quality preschool opportunities that meet both childcare development and parent employment. We, of course, continue to prioritize this. We have resource and referral investments across the state that are very critical for families to be able to reach out and make sure that they are aware of what are their childcare options when they're either returning to work or meeting work needs.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And these resource center referrals are not only a place where they can reach out to that, but most importantly, also the workforce can also reach out to them to get additional support from them that includes professional developments. Most research and referrals are using a statewide My Child Care plan, which is a search website for families to log on real time, keeping up with technology, to be able to see then a searchable list.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And we'll link them back to their local resource and referral if they are accessing this, to make sure that they are really truly aware of all their choices on there too. And then, I'm gonna go back to my example of what I said about the family child care home educational network.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So I wanna make sure that we call out that during that expansion of those dollars, we did end up increasing the number of child care providers, licensed family child care home participating from, four 1,480 from four 1,480 to 1,800 during this expansion period, meaning 320 more providers are now involved in the title five system of that too. In question number five, question number five talks about how preschool deserts have been identified and addressed.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so that is, something that we have in our WIC code in regards to our local childcare planning councils, LPCs, are mandated at a county level council, to look at these priorities, develop policies, and improve accessibility, portability, and quality of care.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
You know, they form, local forums where perhaps the state has certain data, but the local voices to be able to speak to this data is very important and that's how they serve in that capacity. These efforts includes identifying preschool deserts through a comprehensive needs assessment completed every five years. And then additionally, LPCs are required to submit an annual, zip code priority record to CDSS, to look at their immediate needs.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
When funding is available, that is what we look at to make sure that priority one are the first ...to prioritize our targeted areas, when an RFA is released and expansion dollars are provided on that too. And then let me see if there's question seven.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So question seven also speaks in regards to how can the state provide better information to families about their full range of preschool options, and that includes also a state preschool as well as, ELOP. So federal regulations require that every state provides families with a consumer friendly information about childcare options. It's it has to be included also multilingual across accommodations for individuals also with disabilities.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so California fulfills that as reference with the my child care plan, but also leveraging, of course, the child care resource and referral, that human touch and that local navigator that is able to provide that work. This portal ensures that families receive a non biased comprehensive information of the range of options based on how the family, submits their their information.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So a family can go in there and say, I'm looking for evenings and weekends. I have a child with disabilities. The children are this age looking for this information. Then it will be able to populate a list in regards to what is best to meet those needs for that family. And then the family is able to then make some calls and decide what is best for them based on parental choice on that too.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so it's definitely important piece. And then I think I might have one more question, but let me double check. Make sure.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so it's definitely important piece. And then I think I might have one more question, but let me double check. Make sure.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
No. I believe that's all my questions. With that, I'm happy to take questions at the proper time. Thank you.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Good afternoon, Chair and member. Kimberly Rosenberger, speaking on behalf of the State Superintendent of Public Instruction, Tony Thurmond. Between transitional kindergarten and state preschool programs, CDE is proudly serving roughly 300,000 preschool-aged children through school-based settings, community-based centers, and family child care homes.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
In October 2025--that's the data point we often use because it aligns with the census data--we were serving 100,000 children in CSPP, but we wanna note that enrollment starts out low in the fall, so our annual enrollment is substantially higher at 154,000. And so with the rollout of TK, we have seen the pivot in CSPP where we are serving more three-year-olds, nearly doubling from what we've started at in 2021 from 26,000 to 46,000, as well as a temporary growth in two-year-olds.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
You know, the 522% increase is much more impressive than the 476 children to about 3,000. But it is a market change, and we think it's an important one to note because it brings us closer to coming in line with a master plan, serving all low-income children and children with disabilities. We also, based on the last hearing, want to flag that where we're seeing the largest percentage increase are in areas such as Kings, Marin, Monterey, San Joaquin.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
And what's notable about that is that regional-- we don't have regional eligibility. So we really are helping bridge significant income gaps. Because of the high cost of these counties, we are now able to serve some of the lowest-wage families. I also wanna highlight that the state preschool program, as we enroll two-year-old children, we have seen a lot of interest, but the funds only extend to that of June 30, 2027, and the cost to expand to three-year-olds is expensive.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
The cost to expand to two-year-olds is significantly more expensive, and right now, it's seen as a temporary allowance. And so, while we have interest, we do believe that continuing the investment in two-year-olds and extending assurances for two-year-olds, we will see a much greater growth in take-up for two-year-olds based on the interest and also the data point that we have where a lot of the two-year-olds that qualify have a sibling already in preschool programs.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So we think not only would providing those assurances help serve families that need it most, but also would help improve our FCCHENs network, which we wanna piggyback off of is really important. And we've seen the growth because that's where we have the most full-time, full day programs, which are the most important for those families. The increase we saw, the majority of our two-year-old children, are being served in those full day, full year programs.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Additionally, many of our CSPP contractors are already fully enrolled, but some contractors are still working hard to increase enrollment as they navigate the declining birth rates, the challenge of attracting and retaining workforce due to low reimbursement rates, and we anticipate the enrollment patterns may shift, which makes it hard to provide comparisons, but we do think some of the steps that the Legislature has taken to increase slots to the three and two-year-olds have been incredibly helpful.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We also wanna flag that we are receiving more funds to ensure that the settings are developmentally appropriate for these children with the younger needs. They are expected to differentiate activities between the two-year-olds, and the ratio is higher for staff to these children.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So the cost is greater, but the impact is significant. And then, you know, as we support the contractors in this transition, the department has provided extensive technical assistance, including webinars, office hours, online resources, to focus on strategies and to maximize enrollment.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Some of our contractors are still working to increase their enrollment, but we regularly hear--I'm probably gonna say this five more times--but that there would be a greater interest if they could do the investment with assurances that they were going to see resources and continuation for the two-year-olds.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So going into the questions, question two: what more do preschool providers need to open, operate appropriate spaces for three-year-olds? Having the adjustment factor of 1.8 for the three-year-old, CSPP rate has been very helpful. Three-year-olds cost more money, and we wanna meet the children where they're at, so those resources are needed.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We also would encourage funding AB 51 that allowed for development and implementing a three-year outreach, capacity building, training, and technical assistance, along with extensive early learning resources. That's something CDE had been supportive of and identified 2,000,011 positions to be helpful, and, you know, that number may fluctuate since that was a few years back, but it's one that we think would be really helpful in the outreach.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Additional funds for more three-year-old children; the total number of funded enrollment in the state for CSPP does not decline. We did flag this previously, but the budget provided 98 million to support increases in the number of three-year-olds, and that was not sufficient for us.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We do believe that there are resources there in Prop 98 to fully support the increase to current levels of three-year-olds. However, we would need an additional 123 million in non-Prop 98 for community-based organizations, which is important for those full day programs and for expanding FCCENs.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Allow programs to serve two-year-olds beyond June, 30th, 2027--that's my third time; I think maybe five is where I'm at--and then, additionally, allowing contractors to use start-up funds to support serving younger children we think would be something that would be really helpful for contractors to expand.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We defer to the administration if they're interested in increasing preschool slots, but it's something that we are interested in, and we regularly hear from entities in applying for a CSPP contract if they were able to expand.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So those are largely from non-LEA community-based organizations, which would require non $98. Beyond these dollars, we did estimate the cost to expand CSPP to all eligible three-year-old children unserved by CSPP appropriation, Head Start, or a CDSS childcare program. At about a 75% take-up rate would cost 1.92 billion annually. And then, what's needed to support high-quality preschool opportunities?
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Overall, one of the biggest needs that we have identified is when it comes to access to high-quality preschool opportunities that meet full child development and parent employment needs is a need for more full day, full year. CBO programs are much more likely to be full day, full year. Sixty-two percent of CBO enrollment in October 2024 was full day, full year compared with 30% at LEAs. Expansion in such a way that CBOs could apply for it would be helpful.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Currently, they cannot receive non-- they cannot receive Prop 98 funds. Continuing to fund the UPK coordinators would help support these conversations in the building of programs locally. The UPK coordinators have been instrumental in outreach, expansion, and coordination. That is a one-time funded grant that we have been using to communicate both with families and with contractors to greater expand participation, and that is set to sunset.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
How are preschool deserts being identified and addressed? At CDE, we explore enrollment growth by age at the county level over time and can identify which counties experience the slowest growth in two and three-year-old enrollment.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We're also putting together and will shortly be able to provide local planning councils with a ZIP code level estimated count of children who are income eligible for CSPP, broken down by child age as well as enrollment. We are working with DSS for future releases of estimated numbers of eligible children, and our hope is that we can align methodologies. In terms of expansion of eligibility for CSPP to two-year-olds impacting the system, making it permanent or extending the assurances would be really helpful.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
It's been a popular idea among contractors. However, they're hesitant to make changes needed to start enrolling two-year-olds with the limited time on the provision currently in statute.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
It's a significant lift to make the furniture, the training, the materials developmentally appropriate, and that's of the utmost importance for serving these children. And the data point we have is that when we looked at our October 2024 data, CDE found that 52% of these two-year-old children have siblings in CSPP. So there's a strong correlation for these families receiving more overall support by this investment.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
And then, the question of how can the state provide better information to families about their full range of preschool options, including CSPP and ELOP, a lot of the funds we have right now have been instrumental in starting a good foundation.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
However, they are one-time or grants that we don't have ongoing funds for. So we are concerned that we've made some really good inroads, and that would not continue moving forward if they're set to sunset. So we have-- we're creating parent-facing communications and resources. Our Mixed Delivery Grant grantees are utilizing their one-time fund to create websites and advertising campaigns focused on increasing family awareness of choice in their specific counties.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
For ELOP, it requires that local education agencies publish program availability information in the LEA public enrollment-- people enrollment forms on their websites and also publicly at each program site in a location accessible to the public.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
That's consistent with statute as well as for third-party off-site providers. We're required to submit a list. I do wanna note that for ELOP, with the removal of the multilingual language screener for our TK students, they are less likely to be prioritized in ELOP, because that's one of the defining priorities, than they would be in other grades where there is an EL screener. And so that's a barrier that we haven't figured out an alternative for at this time.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
So they are lower on the priority list by statute. That kind of concludes for now. Any questions? I'm seeing some faces, so I'm happy to answer more as we go. Thank you.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Good afternoon. Am I close enough? Thank you for the opportunity to be here today to speak about preschool and subsidized childcare from the perspective of a longtime contracting community organization who does this work. My name is Melanie Dodson. I'm the CEO and president for Community Child Care Council of Sonoma County or 4Cs.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
So, founded in 1972, 4Cs is our county's largest CDSS-funded Child Care Resource and Referral and Alternative Payment agency. For more than 50 years, 4Cs has helped families navigate and access quality childcare through our Child Care Resource and Referral services, through Alternative Payment Programs. We also run 12 California state-funded preschool sites, as well as the California and Adult Care Food Program. We provide holistic navigation of Early Learning and all family-related resources for children birth to 13 and their families.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
4Cs Sonoma navigates families to transitional kindergarten as well and is piloting this work locally with funding from our UPK partners at the County Office of Education, the Child Care Planning Council.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
This has been a really positive impact in our community and would love to see that work connected, the UPK outreach work connected to our Child Care Resource and Referrals, which are already on the ground, and navigating and supporting families.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
4Cs's mission is to provide access to quality childcare and early education through advocacy, direct service, and empowerment. So I'm here today to really also share 4Cs Sonoma County's experience, lessons learned, and opportunities from this journey of an investment in growth.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
So 4Cs, as you may know, is one of a network of organizations across California of varying sizes and structures, intentionally designed to meet their local community and families' needs in regards to childcare. Many are nonprofits, like 4Cs Sonoma County, governed by a volunteer board of directors, while some are County Office of Educations or hosted by larger organizations, like a YMCA.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
We are respected within our communities by childcare providers, by parents and partners as an essential resource and expert on the ground. 4Cs would be considered in our state a small to medium-sized organization as compared to our colleagues.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Since 2020 and the implementation of the California Master Plan for Early Learning and the critical childcare expansion and investments made by the Legislature and our governor, 4Cs Sonoma has been able to serve many more children of all ages for childcare and preschool, as have my colleagues across the state.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
It took us time, intention, and consistency to be able to operationalize all those resources provided to us. Sonoma County is very representative, in my opinion, of the general experience across the state when it comes to facilitating those state investments and growth over the past five years.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Regardless of our size or budget, each community faced unique opportunities and challenges as we rolled out the new funding to serve more families and children. 4Cs Sonoma grew a 150% since 2020, primarily driven by the Alternative Payment Program expansion. We now serve more than 3,500 children annually, 3,100 through the Alternative Payment Program, and about 400 through our California State Preschool Program contracts.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
This is up from 1,400 in 2020. We provide early care access for children across all age groups and all care types. Yet still today, we also maintain an eligibility list of more than 1,900 children. Approximately two-thirds of the children on our wait list are birth to five, demonstrating the need and challenge in accessing high-cost care for young children. Parents struggle to access and find care, particularly infant care.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
While our small businesses, the childcare programs are in jeopardy due to slots, sitting empty, classrooms without teachers, and aging facilities. Sonoma County has historically had three California Alternative Payment Program providers within our service district, and they each have a distinct purpose.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
4Cs serves the largest area of our geography, River to Coast Children's Services serves our rural counties, and child-- the County of Sonoma serves our Child Protective Services children. Neither of our local partners require a wait list, and they serve all families in their service area. As all of our AP organizations across the state, we each received expansion dollars to serve our communities.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
This distribution of funds was equitable, and now it is important that CDSS review the need in all of our communities and ship these monies to where it is needed based on our local experience, our local plans, and data. Our collective vision, both at the state and local level, is that all dollars allocated serve a child and family in need. So as you know, Sonoma County faced simultaneous crises over these last five years while we were implementing these new dollars.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
First, the wildfires in 2017 and 2019, which destroyed 14 childcare facilities in our community, and then Covid. During Covid specifically, we shifted operations overnight.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Remote work was now the norm, new technology, data security upgrades, and emergency support for essential workers in addition to our already full plates. Providing childcare for essential workers and supporting our childcare providers with PPE and the shifts they needed to be able to continue operating became our key focus. We also experienced a wave of retirements in our community.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Many childcare businesses closed during Covid, and as transitional kindergarten grew, the loss of many highly trained teachers to the TK classrooms across our 40 school districts in Sonoma County alone. It was an intense time, as you'd know.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
The Hold Harmless provision was essential as programs rebuilt enrollment, as they navigated frequent Covid-related closures, supported children and younger children than ever before with increased mental health needs, and had the resources needed to run high-quality programming.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
The need for Hold Harmless in our experience has not expired for any of our childcare businesses. Many CSPP programs are still unstable, with continuing movement of children to our TK classrooms, adapting facilities, and finding qualified staff remains a challenge.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Important to note that a child that is now three years eleven months when school starts is eligible for TK, as their birthday would happen before September 1st. Our CSP classrooms are also now serving younger children with our provision to serve two-year-old children in our classrooms, and this is very important that it does continue.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
And younger children have higher costs, increased staffing, and program needs. All subsidized childcare programs should be able to earn based on their enrollment, not based on attendance. A business must plan for the child that may attend. Fixed costs do not change because a child did not attend. Staffing, program materials, space, et cetera. And we should be paid for these business costs.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
As a tuition-paying parent myself, for many years for childcare, I always paid, regardless of my child's attendance. It was expected. When we treat subsidized families differently, they have reduced access to early learning sites, and providers cannot always accommodate the subsidized rules and regulations. So between '21 and '25-- rapid AP expansion requires substantial organizational scaling, as I mentioned. So just for some frame, 4Cs Sonoma County budget grew from 25 million to 57 million.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
We increased staff from 150 across the preschools and in our main office to 235 individuals. Our case management and enrollment team expanded from 25 to 45 people. We expanded office space, technology. We needed desks and computers and just real things to run the business. We had to invest in training and HR and finance capacity to support our new size.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
We expanded our training and quality assurance teams in house to meet the need of more staff and ensure compliance and appropriate oversight. Community outreach and awareness of our expanded availability of childcare vouchers was also key.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Again, we moved from 1,400 children in 2020 to 3,500 children today, and while our AP programs grew, it was our Child Care Resource and Referral navigators that supported newly eligible parents to find the programs that they needed and train the new providers we needed in our community through our Child Care Initiative Project, CCIP.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Sure. Let's see. Key takeaway. How about there? Thank you. So we have several key takeaways we'd like to share. Sustained and strategic investment in childcare is essential--vouchers, quality supports, and childcare navigation. We need the assessment of ensuring funds are in all the areas where the need is demonstrated. The cost of living in California necessitates increased and sustained investment in subsidies.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Cost in Sonoma County is around $20,000 a year for infant care. Realistic timelines for implementation given the challenges we face on the ground: modernized and streamlined systems and reporting. Rate reform remains critical. Current rates do not cover the true cost of care or support competitive wages or sustain our needed workforce.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
Moving towards universal childcare is key. Investing in our statewide Child Care Resource and Referral structure to expand navigation for parents to both TK and the ELOP after-school programs is necessary. Continue Hold Harmless for California State Preschool Programs as we continue to navigate the changes in services, continue the ability for CSP programs to serve two-year-olds, and for Alternative Payment Programs, ensure childcare providers earn based on enrollment, not on childcare attendance to support access, quality, and appropriate staffing levels.
- Melanie Dodson
Person
So just summing it all up, California's investments have worked. They have expanded access. They've begun to stabilize providers and allowed organizations like 4Cs to serve more children than ever before. We can't stop now, but the system must now also evolve to match the scale of those new investments. Families cannot wait and providers cannot continue to operate on razor-thin margins. Thank you.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
Just slide this over here. Just in case. Good afternoon, Chairs, Dr. Jackson. I'm Andrea Fernandez Mendoza, Vice President of Education for California Children's Academy and a board member for EveryChild California. I didn't just enter the field. I grew up in it.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
I started as a summer youth worker, then an assistant, a teacher, and moved my way up, and now I sit here before you as a PhD candidate. But I-- my heart belongs in the classroom, and it always has. I've dedicated my--
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I thought you were gonna say you were a baby. You know? I was like, dang, that's a long time.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
I've been here for a very long time. I've dedicated my life to this work because I believe in the potential of our families. Every educator in the field shares that same devotion, but love alone cannot sustain a system. Our commitment deserves more than praise. It deserves a system that is stable, fully funded, and honorable enough to keep its promises to those who do the work. California Children's Academy doesn't just operate 15 sites in LA County.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
We are a lifeline for those families and the children every single day. When the state called for an expansion of infant and toddler care, we didn't hesitate. We answered. We invested in classrooms, blueprints, partnerships, and literal foundations of classrooms. We did exactly what California asked us to do, but now those funds are at risk.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
They're at risk of being swept before the doors can even open. To pull this funding now wouldn't just be a budget cut. It would be an abandonment of 4,200 infants and toddlers statewide and a waste of years of preparation. We are asking the subcommittee to honor the state's word and protect those awards and let us finish the vital work you asked us to do. For the families we serve, we are more than just a childcare program.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
We're a trusted home. While TK is expanding, it's not the silver bullet. TK doesn't serve infants, and it doesn't always fit the varied schedules of working parents. It isn't accessible in every neighborhood. To truly reach families where they are, California must stop fostering competition and start funding partnerships.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
We urge the subcommittee to support synergy, not silos. Incentivize school districts and community providers to work together, ensuring no family falls through the cracks between the systems. Streamline CSPP and CCTR administration because no parent should need a PhD to navigate a system that is supposed to help them. The state's goal should be a seamless continuum of care. Let us build that system that values the family's trust as much as we do.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
The Master Plan is clear: preschool for every low-income three-year-old and universal access for every four-year-old. But let's be honest. We are nowhere near that goal. We are asking for programs that have served our communities for 50 plus years, programs that never closed their doors a single day during the pandemic, to operate in a vacuum. With the expiration of the Hold Harmless and no clear rate reform structure in place, the ground is shifting beneath our feet.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
Furthermore, the provision of allowing CSPP to serve two-year-olds is set to expire in 2027. We are literally planning the eviction of our youngest learners from a very system we are supposed to be expanding. This is primarily dire for rural counties who are the only providers of care in their area, and without the two-year-olds, they would not be able to stay open. They will close. We've played by the rules, but the rules keep shifting.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
California's families do not need more funding cliffs and program eliminations. They need a comprehensive, stable plan that treats early childhood education as the essential infrastructure that it is. We are ready to build the future of preschool. We just need the state to stop moving the finish line. The Master Plan promises a thriving workforce with career pathways and professional development, but you cannot build a career on a foundation of sand.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
Direct contracting centers serve over 200,000 children across California. We are the backbone of this system, yet we cannot sustain that weight without stable contract earnings. While we fully support moving to enrollment-based reimbursement, that change must be paired with a modest FlexFactor. Here's the reality, and I know 4Cs mentioned it. Our costs are fixed.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
Teachers' salaries, the rent, the utilities, they don't pause when children don't come to school or because the family is navigating a crisis or too afraid to leave their home due to the climate of fear. That's the reality at our centers. When families are afraid to engage in any public system, even our trusted preschools, our costs don't go away. True rate reform must ensure that every provider is paid a living wage.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
If we want early childhood education to be a respected profession, one that attracts and keeps talent, we must finally deliver the compensation the Master Plan promised.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
It is time to stop treating our educators' dedication as a subsidy for a broken budget. The Master Plan set a bold vision for California's future, and community-based providers have shown up to build that vision every single day. We've done our part, and now we need the state to do theirs: protect CCTR investments, commit to enrollment-based reimbursement with the FlexFactor, make the CSPP two-year-old flexibility permanent.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
It's time to give the workforce that California depends on the stability that we've earned and the investment that they deserve. Thank you for the opportunity to represent the state contractors who hold the system together. I have prepared answers to the questions, but we'll wait till the appropriate time to answer them.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Alexa Frankenberg. I am the Executive Director of Child Care Providers United, and on behalf of the 70,000 childcare providers that we represent, I'm honored to be here to speak to you all today. Improving early childhood education for children ages zero to five means focusing on two priorities: ensuring true parental choice through a robust mixed-delivery system and investing in the family child care provider workforce.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
True parental choice exists only when all care options are funded equitably. Families should be able to choose what works best for their child, not simply what they can afford. That means supporting a system that includes family child care providers and ensures their sustainability.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Family child care providers offer flexible, home-based care that meets the diverse needs of children. It offers an individualized attention, including for children with developmental needs, as well as culturally competent in language care that is representative of the community.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Additionally, staffing ratios in schools or centers often do not compare to family child care. Family child care supports families working nontraditional hours, such as farm workers, nurses, and janitors, by providing extended hours for care, including transportation and after-hours support that other settings often do not offer.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Too often, families are steered towards center-based care or TK options because that is where funding is available. And that may meet some needs, as Andrea just said, but it does not always provide real choice for families. It also removes revenue from family child care providers who often operate on much thinner margins.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
If we are committed to equity, we must fund all options, including-- I've got competition here; it's very cute--including expanding access to subsidies and vouchers for family child care. The data tell an alarming story. Current subsidy rates cover as little as 30% of the cost of care.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Survey data from CDSS show that almost three quarters of all family child care providers do not pay themselves a salary. That means $0 that they are taking home. The quarter that do earn about $2,400 a month on average, which averages out to less than $9 per hour. I cannot imagine surviving on that in California, and yet 70,000 family child care providers do. Too many providers are being forced to close, exacerbating childcare deserts, and too few are entering.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
As everyone up here has said so far, we must align the subsidy rates with the true cost of care. We also need to adopt a prospective pay model so that providers are paid in advance rather than waiting weeks for reimbursement that they cannot afford to have delayed. And this is critical because, often, providers need start-up investments to support the new children but have to wait almost two months to receive that pay.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Without action, we risk destabilizing a critical part of our childcare system. Only one in seven eligible children currently receive subsidized care, and expanding family child care is one of the fastest ways to increase supply since it does not often require new construction.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
When policies shift children into other programs without supporting family child care, we reduce options for families. No parent should have to choose between what is affordable and what meets their child's needs. The good news--and there is some good news--is that targeted investments are making a difference. Through our CCPU benefit funds funded by the state, tens of thousands of providers have gained access to healthcare, retirement, and training supports in just a few years.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Providers who were uninsured or underinsured have obtained cost-free health coverage and used it for critical needs, from glasses and medications to surgeries and cancer treatment.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
It truly has been life-changing. The CCPU Training Fund has distributed laptops, printers, and more to thousands of providers and trained them on how this technology can improve the quality of the care and streamline program operations. We've reached thousands of providers with our immigration data rights trainings and child development related courses through our provider-led peer-to-peer training model.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
Our Retirement Fund also has helped to keep thousands of providers in the field who are experienced, meaning that these providers don't have to choose between the work they love and preparing for retirement that we all need. These benefits sustain providers and the families they serve.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
They show that the childcare system Californians need is possible. Yet as providers lose subsidized children, whether it's four-year-olds to TK or now two-year-olds to preschool, this exacerbates the childcare deserts, and many providers fear that they will lose access to these benefits and need to close down without more subsidies and more subsidy children to provide care for.
- Alexa Frankenberg
Person
I believe we all want the same thing: a strong economy and a childcare system that meets the needs of families and providers alike. Families deserve real choices, and providers deserve the support necessary to sustain this essential work. We look forward to continued partnership with the Legislature to achieve this goal. Thank you.
- Carmen Perez
Person
Hello. My name is Carmen Perez. I live in Marin with my family, my husband, my four children, fourteen years, seven, five, and one and a half. I'm here today to talk about my experiences to be in the waiting list. When my first baby was born, I was a single mom and I applied for childcare.
- Carmen Perez
Person
I thought that will be my solution because, at that time also, my parents got sick by cancer and I had to take care of them, trying to find the work and all that. But all the time when I were asking how is my application or when you're gonna give me something, they always said, oh, you're still on the waiting list. Is your address, your phone number, it's the same? And I said, yes. It is the same.
- Carmen Perez
Person
And I walk in, I call them, and the answer was always the same: you are on the waiting list. You still wanna be there? And I stayed there for 10 years. When my son turns 12, they said he can qualify because the program is until 12.
- Carmen Perez
Person
When the owner made his promise of $145,000, my two girls would benefit of that. So they got the childcare, my two girls, seven and five-year-old now, and I can see the difference. They got it. They went to preschool. My seven-year-old is the best reader in her classroom.
- Carmen Perez
Person
She said she reads very well. She, in Spanish and English, is very smart. And my other girl, it's going in the same way. But now I have already 10 months again on the waiting list, and it's, like, traumatized because I see how am I gonna stay another years? I don't know when because I keep going and asking again.
- Carmen Perez
Person
And the answer is the same: not right now. We don't have the funds. And it's so hard work because we-- if I'm not working, like, should I do? And my husband makes, like, 800 a week. And the-- we live in Marin. Everything is expensive. We barely make-- afford the rent. So how we're supposed to live without childcare? We would like to work because my credit card is so, so, so, so high.
- Carmen Perez
Person
And I would like to make it to work. I would like to-- I really want to have a full-time job and not be worried about the childcare for him. I tried taking him. I am a caregiver, but the-- they've-- my senior told me the other day, you know what? Call me when you will be free when you don't have the baby because it's the same thing here. He doesn't let me do anything. And--
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Dyson. Dyson, you got something-- you have something to say? You do? What do you wanna say? Oh, no. Don't blame it on someone else. This is you. What do you wanna say? Oh, okay. Okay. Well, if you have anything else to say, just let me know, okay?
- Carmen Perez
Person
So, yeah, now I'm scared again. Like I said, I've been eighteen months waiting and this is like a timer again. And it's I have so many dreams. I would like to have a home for us and not be paying the rent, but it is this is so far if I keep living like this. Sorry.
- Carmen Perez
Person
That's so sensible too because it's how would I help help my husband, my kids? Believe me, I have tried working with him. I asked somebody to if she will help me with him, and she charged me the same that I make. So I'll be working, and when I get paid, just give it the whole thing to her. Doesn't work.
- Carmen Perez
Person
And I just went there again to fill up to renewal the paper work the paper for him and the application and for my No.
- Carmen Perez
Person
Mother-in-law. And they also said, if you make more money than whatever you did combining with my husband's, she said, if we make more than that, we're not gonna qualify. So how's it we supposed to live with air and water? Because if we make a little bit more, oh, I'm never gonna pay my credit card. Never sounds like I'm never gonna make my own house. Yeah.
- Carmen Perez
Person
I would like to get a computer for my oldest and for him to go to the university. And he's going to to high school the coming year. I like I said, I would like to work more to take some pressure on my for my husband. He works so hard, but he better than makes
- Carmen Perez
Person
I'd like to be able to take my kids to sign place like Disneyland one day. I've never been there. We have those dreams. Those dreams will maybe be able to become a reality. We have childcare.
- Carmen Perez
Person
But when you don't deliver on your promises, you're, like, we will have the promise. We will have the the childcare, but then we said, okay, you know, never mind. So also we're playing with our dreams, playing with the health mental. It's not easy, like, thinking maybe I will get it. Or or when somebody say, yes, you will get it, and then somebody say, no.
- Carmen Perez
Person
Never mind. Not right now. We don't have that. And so it's playing with our dream mental care, playing with our family future. We can advance and move forward like this.
- Carmen Perez
Person
It's not okay for someone to play with your family's needs. I know the people on this, community weren't the ones who made the promise to expand childcare, but you have the power to make sure that California delivers. We expect you to use your power to make sure that the childcare spaces that were promised, all 77,000 of them are funded in the by budget this year so that families like mine can start our dreams
- Carmen Perez
Person
and not stay living in this nightmare. This is not like a story tell. This is we are living on this. I have live in this. My kids are on this now.
- Carmen Perez
Person
We are on this. Just so scary. He can go to preschool. Alright. Preschool is very expensive for me.
- Carmen Perez
Person
I can't pay because I couldn't pay my first son. I tried. I put him two days and then I have to took him away. And he many times he asked me, why don't put me at school again? Please take me to school.
- Carmen Perez
Person
I couldn't put it for school. And like I said, I saw myself the difference when they go to preschool and when they don't. It's big. It's a huge difference. And I was scared about him if he can make it, if we can make it with him.
- Carmen Perez
Person
Thank you for this opportunity. Thank you for put your eyes on our families. We really need those space. And I hope our dreams can go forward.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Let's give it up for Carmen Perez, y'all. Doing all that juggling
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
At the same time. Ah, you're welcome. Questions from members? No? CDE, you were talking about the 300,000 children who are being served.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Can we break that down? I'm not expecting you to have this right now, but out of those 300,000, how many are of those families families of those children, how many how many of them are actually getting their employment needs met? Right?
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Are getting their like, where they're able to be employed up.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Correct. Meaning, whatever their employment goals are. I mean, are are are they just saying, I'll take whatever slot I can get no matter what, and we'll just try to figure out how to make that work. Right? But, I mean, are these slots really meeting the needs of all the 300,000 that we're actually serving?
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
I'm happy to get a breakdown of that data. I I will say a point made earlier is there isn't regional eligibility. So the to qualify for a CSPP in especially high cost counties, it you're probably gonna have to be underemployed. Simply by the nature of of the requirements.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
In terms of the employment Thank you. Vericate income requirements. Yeah. Got it. Got it. What percentage of our slots need to be full day and full year? Going for
- Virginia Early
Person
Hi. Virginia Early with the California Department of Education. So I have with me some data from October 2024. So this is a year, earlier than what Kimberly was sharing. But of that, about 60% of our state preschool slots were part day, part year, and about 41% were full day, full year.
- Virginia Early
Person
And then TK also varies. You know, there's a requirement that it's a part day program, but then when combined with, the expanded learning opportunities program, in many cases, that's getting you to a nine hour program or combined with a part day state preschool program. Many, many TK enrolled children are also receiving part day state preschool, to make it into a full day.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So I I guess my question is is that I know what our current reality is, but my my question is more of given the needs of our families, right, remember, I'm trying to switch it over. I'm not I don't care what the system has decided the families need to do. I want the system to reflect what the parents need, not what we give them. Right? And so my question is, what percentage of our slots need to be full day, full year, full year?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
The question I need answered because it's time for us to get to a place where where we need to be, not what we want for them. We've gotta honor these families as the experts in their own lives. Right? And they need to tell us what they need so that we can deliver for them instead of telling them this is what you got. Now you figure out how to get it.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Right? And so that that's the so I'm gonna ask CDE to provide me with that information, please. Again, how many what percentage of our slots need to be? It doesn't need to be a 100%. It's not all families need a 100%.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Right? I wanna figure out what our families need and then let the legislature decide and whoever the next administration is going to be decide whether we are dedicated to meeting their needs. Does that make sense?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
There we go. There we go. You said it so much nicer than me. And then, also, what I think would be good, and I'll I'll give this to, one of the things I'm gonna be asking for and a staff will follow-up, is I'm also interested in the mini one time funding that we did provide that produced good outcomes that is worth preserving. Right?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So, CDE, if you can give me that as well. I know you said some of that stuff in your comments in terms of one time funding fading away, but they may have produced good results. Right? I'm only interesting interested in the things we have data on, right, that says this actually produced the type of coordination, produced the type of, you know, whatever the one time funding was for, that it actually met the needs That it actually delivered what we were trying to accomplish.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
I feel like she's boring holes through my head right now, so I do wanna emphasize. I didn't highlight enough the UPK coordinators, which is, like, one of the biggest grants, and that's where we've seen, like, every question of how can we improve it, how are we connecting, how are we netting these kind of benefits. That's what the UPK coordinators have been most effective.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And was that one time funding? Okay. So put it on your list I'll put it on your list. And give it to me Okay. Before the May revise.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Okay? Prop 98. Obviously, we have done a lot through Prop 98. One of the barriers, obviously, also is that Prop 98 can only be used for slots in terms of our our public schools. Are there any ways that we can figure out how to continue to maximize Prop 98 in a way that can actually get us to full year, full day?
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
We certainly have ideas. I think one of the biggest contributors has been the coherence in our after school funding, ACEs, ELP to combine what is being offered along with a safety net of other programs so that you can, like, kind of cobble together a whole day. But we can certainly put out some thoughts on 98 usage.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I would love to have that information as well. I want to just re reiterate, for the next foreseeable future, there's gonna be a lot of instability happening with our families. And we have got to figure out how we can reinvent our systems to provide greater stability for our families and to ensure that the next generation is on a steady foundation so that they are on a pathway to thrive. And so, I understand where current systems are. I'm no longer interested in current systems.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I'm interested in systems and what they need to be to meet the moment. So please think about those things. Please reach out if you have ideas, because we've gotta figure this out. Instability for children sets them out for failure in the future. They have ripple effects, and they start affecting generations.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And we have got to do whatever we can to make sure that our children stay stable and that they have what they need in order to make sure that they are on the right path to be able to thrive, in all the biopsychosocial outcomes that you're looking at when it comes to children being able to be on a pathway to thrive regardless of their ZIP code. Right? Thank you all so very much for this time and for this panel, for kicking us off, as well.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
What what are you getting your what is your page? Alright. Hang in there. Cry. Don't do that. It's right. It's not So folks, this is gonna be one of those chaotic days. I'm just gonna warn you right now where we're all jumping around trying to get bills done, and we're going to be doing some unfortunate recesses.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Okay? And this is gonna be one of those times where we're gonna have to recess so we can get some bills out of committees. I have some crying to do. And and then as soon as we can, whether it's me or assembly member Alvarez, we'll keep switching out until we can get through all of these panels. Okay?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Unless you wanna do I'm gonna take the opportunity to break too. Okay. Not not not not not a problem. So right now, let's take about just a five minute recess real quick so that we can get some of our other business done, and then we'll come back with this panel. Okay?
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Okay. Five minutes are up. Thank you all for giving us an opportunity to regroup here. We are going to continue with today's agenda. We have issue number two now, which is universal transitional kindergarten.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
The panel will hear the governor's January budget proposal impacting universal transitional kindergarten and provide an update on implementation in the first school year of universal eligibility. So for this panel, we'll hear from Learning Policy Institute first, then Department of Finance, Legislative Analyst Office, and Department of Education in that order. Welcome. Please begin.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Hi. I'm Hannah Melnick, senior policy adviser and director of Early Learning Policy at the Learning Policy Institute. In this panel, I'll cover three things. First, TK enrollment and uptake rates. Second, what we know about family's TK decision making and its accessibility.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And then third, the TK workforce. So first, on TK enrollment, TK enrollment has increased at a really rapid pace. We added a 100,000 children to TK enrollment in just the first three years of expansion, reaching more than a 177,000 TK students last year. This is really impressive growth, and the largest pre k expansion in our nation's history. Amidst this quick growth, enrollment has been hard to predict.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Before the pandemic, we served about seventy two percent of eligible children, in TK. And since enrollment are the number of eligible children has grown substantially, we've recently served about 55% of eligible children. That was for '24-'25. This lower uptake in TK may not be too surprising given that the program has expanded so quickly, but we think it's something to monitor. And my colleagues and I are studying how families are making their decisions about pre k, and including TK through surveys and focus groups.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
There are several factors that go into a family's, decisions about TK, and I just wanna start by saying that we did hear a lot of we have been hearing a lot of positive stories about TK, which makes sense that considering that more than half of our four year olds are enrolling. One parent raves about how great her child's experience was, how play based it was, and she couldn't believe that her tax dollars were making it possible to have a full day of care.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
In terms of why families with an eligible child don't enroll, there are a few main themes. One reason is simply that they don't know their child is eligible for TK. One of the parents in our focus groups said that not knowing about TK was a source of huge frustration for her.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Hopefully, now that TK is universal for all four year olds, there will be fewer parents who simply don't know about it, but we still think it's important to continue communication campaigns. A second reason some families don't send their child to TK is they prefer another such as keeping their child at home or staying in a preschool or childcare provider in their community that they trust. This is not inherently bad. We wanna make sure that families have a choice.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
We just wanna make sure that families are, see TK as a place that is going to be developmentally appropriate for their child and full of play.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And finally, a third reason, for not choosing TK is logistical barriers, such as TK not being offered at a home school or not having, a long enough school day. So our analysis, of a survey of that was conducted by CDE showed that TK programs are becoming more accessible. 88% of LEAs offer TK at all their elementary school sites. 85% offer, school day of TK, which is as opposed to a part day, so it still may not be the full working day that parents need.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
What we still have yet to learn is how many TK students actually have access to those, early expanded learning pro programs. I wanna turn now to TK teachers who are the most important part of a quality, classroom experience. TK has expanded quickly and during a teacher shortage, so that's put pressures on LEAs in terms of staffing. In our analysis of the CDE survey of 1,500 LEAs, we find reasons to be optimistic, as well as needs for continued investments.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
One reason for optimism is low vacancy rates in TK lead teacher positions.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
In each year of TK expansion, even though we've added 1,400 to 2,000 teachers each year, we have about 1% of lead teacher positions that are, vacant at the start of the school year, which is, much less than what we were expecting to see. And assistant teacher vacancy rates have declined. The first year of TK, we had 12% of assistant assistant teacher positions not filled at the start of the year, which was quite concerning. That, percentage has dropped to 3% in the following two years.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
So that's, higher than we'd like to see, but also, better than might be expected, especially since we've, lowered the adult to to child ratio.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
In terms of whether TK teachers are appropriately qualified, this is something we know less about. The '25-'26 school year is the first time that TK teachers need to hold 24 units of ECE, a child development permit, or equivalent experience is determined by their LEA, and we do not collect data on how many teachers meet this requirement. We do know that last year when they were surveyed, LEA's report 94% of LEAs expected that they would have enough qualified TK teachers, and that was self report.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
While the data are promising, I just also wanna highlight that in the open responses, LEAs continue to report staffing as the number one challenge that they were facing in addition to facilities. So we're not completely out of the woods.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And finally, a key part of a TK workforce is the administrators who are overseeing TK programs. In our the case studies we recently conducted in California, we found that having a leader who really understands early child early childhood development is key. That's the person that selects the TK curriculum, oversees TK teacher hiring and evaluation, trains preschools, and they also often have CSPP or other early learning programs on their campus.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And so for this reason, we recommend expanding state funded training options for administrators who are overseeing, early learning programs, such as the twenty first Century, Leadership Academy, 21 CSLA, or county led trainings. We also recommend reevaluating the way early childhood is incorporated in the administrative service credential, to make sure that all administrators have some ECE expertise and that the credential is accessible to, those who have a preschool, director permit so that they can oversee early learning teachers.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Thank you. I'm happy to answer any questions you have, and happy to follow-up on any data that were not included in the agenda.
- Idalys Perez
Person
Idalys Perez with the Department of Finance. So for transitional kindergarten in the '25-'26 school year, the governor's budget provides a total of 3,000,000,000 proposition 98 general fund to support full implementation of universal transitional kindergarten, which includes 1,900,000,000.0 for TK expansion and 1,100,000,000.0 for lowering the average student to adult classroom ratio to 10 to one.
- Idalys Perez
Person
In the '26-'27 school year, the governor's budget provides approximately 3,400,000,000.0 proposition 98 general fund for the second year of full implementation of TK in 26-27, which allows all children who turn four years old by September 1 of the school year to enroll in TK. This funding includes roughly 2,200,000,000.0 proposition 98 general fund for TK expansion and approximately 1,200,000,000.0 proposition 98 general fund for lowering the average student to adult classroom ratio to 10 to one.
- Idalys Perez
Person
These costs are also fully within the local control funding formula, and these funding amounts were based on TK ADA projections at governor's budget, which were $201,100 and 200,109 for '25-'26 and two 200 and 15,855 for '26-'27.
- Idalys Perez
Person
Additionally, the governor's budget includes, some statutory changes. Specifically, it proposes statutory amendments that clarify the definition of providing developmentally appropriate curriculum in TK. For one, instructional practices that promote each child's development and learning through a strengths and play based approach that meet the preschool TK Learning Foundations, PTKLF, and two, a cohesive set of principles, experiences, and learning goals to help children learn and thrive. Finally, the governor's budget includes the TK Multilingual Learner Screening Program Implementation, VCP.
- Idalys Perez
Person
This includes $316,000 in non proposition 98 general fund in '26-'27 through '28 to '29 and $158,000 ongoing for state operation resources to support TK, multilingual screener program that was established in the 2025 budget act.
- Idalys Perez
Person
Specifically, the PCP includes one permanent position to provide ongoing oversight, administration, and technical assistance related to implementing the screener statewide, and resources equivalent to one position for three years, that's limited term, beginning in the '26-'27 year to support the initial workload necessary to screen students.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
That concludes Department of Finance. Thank you. Our next panelist, please.
- Sara Cortez
Person
Good afternoon. Sarah Cortez with the Legislative Analyst Office. Just two brief comments from us today. So first, we consider the TK funding augmentations proposed in the governor's budget technical adjustments intended to align with updated average daily attendance estimates and information projections based on readily available average daily attendance. And the second is related to the BCP and the trailer bill language.
- Sara Cortez
Person
We don't have any concerns at this time with those proposals. That concludes my remarks.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. Stephen Propheter, director of the early education division of the California Department of Education, speaking here on behalf of State Superintendent of Public Instruction, Tony Thurman. I will address as many of the questions as I can in my remarks, but I will conclude by addressing all that I can.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
In this first full year of implementation, we estimate at CDE that uptake in transitional kindergarten eligible, children enrolled, children, that are eligible for for TK, which is to say, though, those four year olds that turn four by September 1. This is a significant increase from the previous year when about 177,000 children, were enrolled in TK.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
We anticipate these numbers will continue to increase over time as TK programs become more established, families become more aware of of TK as a as a as a universal option. And while we have, with, philanthropic support, stood up a communications campaign, it's important to remember that unless a family has had a child enrolled in California's public schools, the the notion of a universal pre kindergarten program through a school for their four year old child may be unfamiliar.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
So it's really important just to to to to continue to build that awareness of TK as an option. Now that some of the initial logistics around access has been addressed by many LEAs, we hear that many districts are going, to dive deeper into development what's developmentally appropriate, and, you know, focusing on not just curriculum, but learning environments. We believe the amendments to the definition of curriculum and the governance governor's, proposed Trailer Bill Language will support and clarify, what those those expectations are.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
Critical in all this implementation, are the work of two grants that I'd like to highlight that have supported UPK expansion, and with the recognition that in order for a a new program for four year olds or you an expansion a universal program for four year olds to succeed, multiple systems need to shift, partnerships need to be built, and that's taken time and significant amount of work. So these are both one time investments that are set to sunset in in a couple of years here.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
I believe it's 2028. The UPK planning and implementation grant, which has supported costs associated with creating or expanding transitional kindergarten, state preschool, recruitment, training, facility needs, establishing or strengthening partnerships with other, pre k programs within the LEA, including TK, state preschool head start. The Mixed Delivery Planning Grant provides funding to local planning councils, resource and referrals to partner with LEAs and community based preschools in the county to enhance and uplift the Mixed Delivery System.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
A key use of that planning and implementation grant, the former that I I mentioned, has been funding UPK coordinators within county offices of education. The critical work these coordinators have done has been to organize, coordinate, and implement, county wide efforts for UPK, including supporting that mixed delivery preschool system focused on whole child development, aligning programs from preschool to third grade, and supporting UTK implementation. The responsibilities encompass a wide range of tasks. One of the things that we'd we'd highlight in that is, what these UPK
- Stephen Propheter
Person
I'd say, rather without the coordinators, with or I'd sit rather without the coordinators, because as I mentioned, the the funding will sunset here in a couple of years. We're likely to see, a fragmented, or continue like, a fragmented implementation. These coordinators really have been a glue. Right? The glue, if if you will, that hold p three efforts together.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
Districts would need to navigate without the coordinators, the districts would need to navigate, to changes in guidance, quality expectations, mixed delivery coordination on their own, which lends itself towards inconsistency across classrooms and sites. So that's a lot that the speaking at the the county level needs, but I'd be remiss if we didn't mention that there are district level needs as well.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
Earlier around, communication to families, things around addressing, professional development, you know, community outreach, you know, promoting the benefits of transitional kindergarten, promoting, you know, particularly developmentally appropriate, TK, improved, you know, math, literacy, social skills, you know, which lead to to longer term higher, engagement in kindergarten and beyond, particularly for for those, our multilingual learners and and children from, lower income families. In terms of some of the, the questions in the agenda, question three, are LEA struggling with hiring and placing qualified TK teachers?
- Stephen Propheter
Person
As far as teaching staff goes, well, ninety four percent of LEAs have reported having enough fully qualified TK teaching staff overall.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
A closer look reveals some ongoing staffing challenges. So, specifically, 6% didn't have enough fully qualified TK teaching staff and had to get creative about how to find necessary staff. We've heard some districts have had to use long term substitutes, emergency TK teacher permit, or pull teachers from other grade levels and move them to TK. Additional adults to meet ratios, so LEAs have reported in '24-'25 that some TK second adult positions remain unfilled.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
And looking as we look into '25-'26, LEAs anticipate having a significantly higher number of second adult positions due to changes in the ratio for TK.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
So going from one to 12 down to one to 10. Just in all this, I would highlight, one of the other one time, funding grants. You'll hear a little bit more about this on on the next panel when we when we on quality. But the early education teacher development grant was one of those one time investments that supported the, increase in, credentialed TK teachers, permitted state preschool teachers, and increased, professional development for TK teachers, state preschool teachers, and kindergarten teachers.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
Those funds will will sunset in 2028, as well, and it's another area that, could, one time, investments could continue to support.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
And, in terms of for question four, anything the state can do to further support LEAs in implementing the expansion of high quality TK, I think I would just highlight three things. I'll wrap it up after this. So support developmentally appropriate practice and curriculum and TB and trailer built language. Ensure that TK is included in any curriculum and instructional materials adoption separately from TK and aligned to the preschool and TK learning foundations, and then coordinated funding for UPK implementation and coordination.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
So that's the UPK coordinators as well as district support for for UPK.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
I'll conclude my remarks here and be available for questions at the appropriate time.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you to all the panelists. Let me start with a question because I think I think it was CDE who talked about the '25-'26 either anticipated or or known numbers. Where are we with enrollment for TK for '25-'26? In in the agenda we have on page eight, the numbers up until '24-'25, it's about a 55% enrollment rate given the TK eligible population.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So I'm just curious if there's updated numbers. I think somebody I thought it was CDE said there's data for '25-'26.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
We can speak to kind of what we expect and we expect that Okay. Uptake to be just over 50%. The CDE, we haven't published the the figures yet, but we're looking forward to figure to to publishing them later this month.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
Correct. Total fifth just over 50%, of the, I believe it's about fifty two percent of the eligible four year olds, for for this year.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Yeah. Yep. So, that kind of begs the question, something I was noticing here on the trends with the exception of 2020, twenty two one, which is the year of COVID. The uptake has been from a percentage wise decreasing. And that's just of to definitely of note.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So I'd ask maybe to start with LPI first. Is that a trend you identified? And any comments on that in the last CDE as well?
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Sure. Hannah Melnick with Learning Policy Institute. So I think one of the things that might be causing this is just that the in in the period that we're looking at, the eligibility age changes every year. And so, first of all, that's just a little bit confusing to keep up with. The number of children who are being added as eligible has been increasing substantially.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Post COVID, we also see nationwide that preschool enrollment has been much lower even in universal states than it was pre pandemic. I don't know why, but that is a national trend. And so I think it's something it would be reasonable to expect that what now that the age eligibility is gonna be stable, it's all four year olds, parents are gonna catch on.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And, also, school districts are making the program continuously more accessible, having it at the place where the kid will attend kindergarten, making sure that the teacher is in place and known and has experience, and also communicating better about it. Maybe they weren't communicating fully when they weren't quite ready sure they were gonna have enough spots.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
I think that we'll probably start to see the reversal of that trend, but that's just speculation.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
I would just I would echo what my colleague, Miss Melnick, shared. And just, you know, we know that from rapid the the rapid survey project out of Stanford that nearly two thirds of of families with children under the age of six, know about TK. So that's down about eighty three percent. So we've seen kind of a decrease in in knowledge in that, and and that that those points in time.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
So 83% in July 23 knew about TK, and then, two thirds report, knowing about, TK in a more recent, survey.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
And I think that really gets at supporting, districts in kind of the promotion of the promotion of the the availability. Okay.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
To Finance, what are the projected what are the projections that you're utilizing to to make the budget recommendations and the proposed budget in terms of eligible population and the enrollment or the uptake?
- Idalys Perez
Person
Idalys Perez with the Department of Finance. So with the numbers that we were mentioning for the allocate or the projections, these were based on, TK ADA projections at the governor's budget, which were two, which were based on projections of 02/1000 ADA for '25-'26, and 02/15855 for '26-'27.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We don't have that information at this time. However, like, since that's based on, like, LCFF and demographic related projections, we can take that back.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Okay. Yeah. If you could share with us on what that is. I'm just I wanna wanna know if the the budget proposal is whether it it's consistent with the trend continuing or a more a more aggressive enrollment uptake role? Do you have someone here from that can answer that question?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Yes. Actually, I'll defer to my colleague who Great. Thank you. LCFF.
- Katie Lagomarcino
Person
Oh, hi. Katie Lago Marceno with Department of Finance. So the the sorry. Budget estimates that we use, we use TK ADA, and, we can get back to you with more information on what demographics uses for their projections, but we base this off of, ADA. We don't base it off of eligibility.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Yeah. But AD, I understand that. I am not I'm not I'm trying to understand what you how your projection of ADA compares to the eligible population given the historical trends. I'm just trying to better understand what methodology you used to calculate that.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Okay. Thank you. We talked a little bit about some of the programs that need to be and and funding to workforce preparation and all that. One of the questions, we have is on the issue of administrative credentials, and how, preschool, now TK, and and kindergarten Northwell. I assume kindergarten system long longstanding that that was already part of the preparation for current admin credentials.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
How does that play a role? Is it being integrated into administrative credentials, any continued education that administrators do? Is there anything in that space?
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Since I'll start since I mentioned it. Hanna Melnick senior, policy adviser at the Learning Policy Institute. So the credential itself doesn't specify grade levels, if I'm not mistaken. So it's real but it's really up to the, administrative preparation programs, the higher ed programs, to determine what's the content that is taught. And so while in some a lot of the programs have been renamed, you know, for TK, but maybe haven't caught up to the fact that they actually really need to be changing their content.
- Hanna Melnick
Person
And just anecdotally, we think that it's because it's goes all the way through grade 12, the amount of early childhood coverage, if there is any, is just moved over very quickly. Wow. Another structural issue is that, because of there there are more positions to be an assistant principal in a middle or a high school. So a lot of principals and administrators get their training with older children, and then they're moving back into elementary schools again without having that early learning expertise.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So what what has been what is some of the, the role of academia and education, been doing, in in response to that?
- Hanna Melnick
Person
I can't speak to the administrative credential programs and what they have been doing. I know a lot there has been a lot of focus on p k three credential programs rolling out, but I don't know to the extent to which they're coordinating with administrator
- Hanna Melnick
Person
Yes. The p k three is for the teacher, whereas there's just a single administrative credential for, principals, superintendents, and all the other staff that oversee those teachers.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
Yeah. Steven Popheter with the Department of Education. I would just add just a couple of notes on this. So a couple of years back, we had a UPK mixed delivery quality and access work group, which the work group members recommended that this the the addressing the administrative services credential, specifically adding in ECE units as a requirement Was a was recommend recommendation would require work with commission on teacher credentialing. I think I'd also point to and I don't have the figures in front of me.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
I'm happy to follow-up with it. But we have, administered a survey of planning and implementation for UPK for years. And, in some form or another, we've seen, we've seen, grantees, so LEAs, charter schools, county offices of education prioritize training on early childhood for site leaders. So it is folks with the administrative credential. And then we've also seen a desire, a need for more professional development in early childhood for those site administrators.
- Stephen Propheter
Person
And I think that lends itself towards a gap that maybe isn't present in the administrative services credential.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Yeah. I I just point that out because the more I talk to to school leaders and to people in in the TK environment, it's a different population of students. And and there there's there's different needs. And so certainly to prepare clearly, we we identified that since we now have credentials that are specific in preparation for those grades for those early years. But we gotta make sure that the the whole system of support, which includes administrators, is is present when it comes to that.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So that's something for me to follow-up on. On that issue as well, I heard someone mention maybe it was LPI that there's no data as to how many of the the individuals who are teaching are have the the full credential, if you will, whether it's the ECE or or the new credentials. Why is that data not available? Where where is the missing information, the missing link to have that data?
- Hanna Melnick
Person
So please correct me, my colleagues, if I get this wrong. But with the data I presented earlier, and I think Steven referred to came from a survey of LEAs. I think the way because it's an apportionment requirement, it's not a legal requirement that the teachers have it. That's, whether they have the appropriate credentials is, monitored through the county level audit process, I believe. And so that is not a systematic state level data collection process.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And it's really complicated to add that to the reporting process?
- David Alvarez
Legislator
We we just it's a theme an unfortunate theme now because it's second hearing on teacher preparation credentialing pipeline issues where we don't have data, and yet we're making multi $100,000,000 decisions on things. And So does the department have anything else to add on that?
- Stephen Propheter
Person
I think we could we could follow-up and and see what data there is available. There's a you know, I'm I I don't oversee the the the data systems that collect information on, educator, you know, credentials, you know, but so I think this is something we could take and follow-up to provide the information we have.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Yeah. And if you haven't heard yet from CTC, you will on access to data on other issues that we've discussed at the prior committee. And so it it I think Can I
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
On on the agency on that data that you're asking about collecting, we don't currently collect that. We would have to update CALPADS, which would require resources. But in in direction, we could do it, but we don't currently through our existing structure. Okay.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
If you could, and maybe working with LAO, provide us with information on what that would require for us to accomplish that, that'd be helpful information to ensure particularly that the pre preschool to to the early educate credential, excuse me, be reported so that we understand who who is teaching our kids that we have high expectations for.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Appreciate that. And then just to clarify on the issue on the I had requested from finance. The enrollment, I know I think the answer was you base it off of ADA, which is not the same as enrollment.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So I'd like to get just to be very clear here, the eligible population, in the universe of potential TK, students, the enrollment expected enrollment uptake, if you will, and then obviously the ADA that you certainly have access to, and then how that differs from, you know, the the first required grade, which is first grade in our education system in terms of just to see the comparison of of what those are. That's the specific information we're looking for.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So, is there anything else anyone as on the panel would like to add of something that was said, need clarification on, from direction from from us. Okay. Seeing a none, I think I think that'll be it on on this issue. Obviously, we'll hold it open and give me a second. Yeah.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you. All this is show open. We're gonna go a little bit out of order just so that doctor Jackson can return to take the gavel for issue number three. So we'll go to issue number four now, to continue and, keep, any of the witnesses and testimony, waiting any longer than need be. So I'll ask the panel for issue four on reading difficulties screener and the professional development.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Panel to please come forward. So the panel will listen to the January budget proposal from the Department of Finance regarding, the impacts that it may have on readiness, reading difficulty, screener mandates, that was implemented a couple years ago, I believe. So we'll have finance present, and then we'll hear from the LAO. Kick it off, Department of Finance. Welcome.
- Committee Finance
Person
Thank you. Good afternoon, chair and members. The governor governor's budget proposes 40,000,001 time proposition 98 general fund to support implementation costs related to the screening of kindergarten through second grade students for risk of reading difficulties. This funding is provided in recognition that there are costs that local educational agencies are incurring while mandate claims are mandate claims are being filed with the commission on state mandates.
- Committee Finance
Person
The budget additionally proposes statutory amendments that establish requirements of when local educational agencies can screen pupils in
- Committee Finance
Person
The proposed language addresses, change sorry. The proposed language addresses, change sorry. The proposed language changes address a long standing concern around increasing over identification in special education by establishing that local educational agencies must wait at least ninety one school days in a school year before administering screening for kindergarten pupils and at least forty six school days for pupils in first and second grade in order to ensure that when a flag is triggered, it reflects genuine instructional need rather than lack of exposure to foundational reading instruction.
- Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow
Person
kindergarten through second grade for reading difficulties.
- Committee Finance
Person
Additionally, statutory amendments further recommend that screening instruments be administered on a one on one or small group basis. That concludes my remarks, and I'm happy to take questions at the appropriate time.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you. Do we have additional comments by Department of Finance? No? Okay. Then we'll take the LAO.
- Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow
Person
Good afternoon, mister chair, member. Dylan Hawksworth Lutzow with the Legislative Analyst Office. We recommend rejecting funding for this specific purpose. The state has provided $65,000,000 over the last two years to support the implementation of the reading difficulty screener in the first year, including training of staff. This budget proposes an additional $40,000,000 to cover the costs associated with administering the screener and supporting students identified as having reading difficulties.
- Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow
Person
Costs associated with administering the screener are likely lower in the second year, given there have already been, training done for teachers who'd be administering the, the screener. And costs associated with providing the targeted support, they are currently unknown. So we recommend rejecting the funding for this specific purpose. If the legislature wants to provide funding for screening associated costs, it could instead provide the funding through the discretionary block grant, which would give the LAAs, more flexibility. Thank you.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you both. I have a a question as it relates to the trailer bill language to the implementation of when the screening will occur. I'd like finance to provide more details on that and, why that change is coming forward.
- Committee Finance
Person
Absolutely. So the date the dates were specifically selected to allow for people exposure to curriculum before screening it in order to reduce over identification of peoples who are at risk of reading difficulties. There's widespread concern around the potential over identification risk in special education. And recent research and preliminary screening data have shown that administration timing for the screeners has a meaningful effect on the outcomes, as well as the rate at which students are identified for interventional services.
- Committee Finance
Person
While this work and research are still ongoing, we've seen data that shows a steep decline in leveling off of students who are identified as needing reading intervention after those points in the school year, which implies that there are that with sufficient exposure to curriculum, among other factors, a more accurately identifying point is at these points in the school year for students.
- Committee Finance
Person
The proposal reflects an attempt to prevent any harm resulting for from over identifying students early while ensuring screening results are interpreted in an appropriate instructional context
- David Alvarez
Legislator
for the most accurate results for students. I appreciate the concern. There was certainly something in the in the in the policy discussion on the implementation of the the screen screening instrument that I I expressed. And so appreciate that there's that concern. Can you walk me through the the language in terms of the dates that the the days that were selected and, just so I can make sure I I ask you some follow-up questions related to that.
- Committee Finance
Person
Of course. So for kindergarteners in particular, the LEAs must wait until after the ninety day mark. So the ninety first day of the school year in order to administer screenings for at risk identification, that means they can do a baseline screening ahead of that point. But the the screener that would be used to determine whether the student is at risk for reading difficulties could not be administered until that ninety first day mark. For grades one and two, that would lower to a forty five day mark.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
K. So, what is the school day requirements in California? A 180. Eighty days. Right? So we've in kindergarten, you've identified essentially halfway through the year to do the the screen. What and I heard in your testimony that there's a lot of research being done as to perhaps best timing and methodologies used. Is there any research that was used to make the determination of the ninety days?
- Committee Finance
Person
Yes. So currently, just caveoning that this is all preliminary data from our screener so far. But several of the screeners including Ameri Learning, MCAS, which includes Dibels and Lectura, which is a Spanish screener, as well as Multitudes, our largest one, all have shown a steep drop off at that point for kindergarteners. Just taking an average here, let's see.
- Committee Finance
Person
For m class, it reduces from about 52% to about 29, Lectura from fifty seven to twenty percent, and for multitude, sixty percent to twenty percent of students identified at that point in time.
- Committee Finance
Person
So the same students who were screened the first time and were identified.
- Committee Finance
Person
Within the first three months of school. So, in the September to, between early late August, early September is primarily when most of the screeners, some of them as late as October for depends on the screener.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And a different school years a different school districts have to here start at different times. So Correct. In in our home school district, that would have been, like, within a couple weeks of school starting, which probably doesn't make a ton of sense. I understand that. But in some, they start in July, and by September, they've been there a few months.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And so wouldn't, and are those are the are all of our screeners only screening once a year and not screening again?
- Committee Finance
Person
No. So it it definitely completely depends on whichever screener we are talking about, but almost all of them screen multiple times for different purposes. So some create a baseline at the start, and then screen for risk of screening disabilities as a secondary kind of midyear screen and then often a final screener to determine kind of where the progress was. But it truly depends on the screener and the, recommended, use of that screener for
- David Alvarez
Legislator
purpose. So so this is really a policy decision that you're hoping to implement through the budget as it relates to when screening should happen?
- Committee Finance
Person
We want to encourage that students are getting the proper exposure to curriculum, specifically reading curriculum, because not every student is privileged to have that in their home environment. So sometimes that initial, especially like the kindergarten level, that initial exposure in those first few months, it can put up a false flag identifier that they are in need of reading intervention when in reality, they just need that exposure to curriculum, and then they they level out at a baseline at that point.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And what happens to the students who actually do need interventions and we don't identify it until halfway through the year?
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Kimberly Rosenberger with CDE. We're not delaying identification. We're just, for this specific screener, recommending a start, but we're still instruction observation, universal support start from day one. And so we're trying to make sure that we're having valid accurate, identifications, but we are still working with there's training, There's, professional development that we work with the teachers for early identification throughout the year, and, this language doesn't prevent or limit that kind of early in intervention.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
I I remain, skeptical but open on this conversation. I'd like to see the research. I mean, we were just in education policy committee talking about reclassification, another issue, but an issue that now for decades has haunted us because we did not reclassify students at the right time, and we held them back for for just inappropriately not identifying them the right way. I'm concerned that we have like, have we not asked these questions?
- David Alvarez
Legislator
We have not talked about this change and and what that would mean for students who need help earlier rather than later.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And so I wanna definitely leave this open for and I'd like to see the evidence that was used and the data that was used to for the rationale for this proposal. Certainly before we we we see this before us making final decisions. So appreciate seeing that ahead of time. I don't think we have any other questions on this item. So we will hold the issue open and, just perfect timing.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Mister chair, my only question is, so what do we talk about? I'm playing. Thank you very much.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Alright. Your turn. No. I gotta go vote on a bunch of stuff, including where you were. I gotta go where you
- Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow
Person
Mr. Chair, members, Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow with the Legislative Analyst Office. We were asked to provide a brief overview of the state's quality plan. Each year as a condition of receiving federal child care development fund dollars, the state must use at least 9% of CCDF dollars on quality improvement activities and an additional 3% on quality improvement activities related to specifically infants and toddlers. Quality improvement activities are pretty broadly defined, may include training and professional development for childcare providers, implementing quality rating systems, or supporting health and safety standards.
- Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow
Person
On page 13 of your agenda, you'll see the list of activities that were in the 2025-26 budget.
- Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow
Person
And in recent years, the state has spent well above the 12% minimum in '25-'26. It was about 18% before the CCDF reduction and about 19% afterwards. The state must submit a plan to the Federal Government for approval describing how, improvement funds will be spent as part of the overall plan for, how the state will spend child care and development fund dollars, in in this part of that three year cycle.
- Dylan Hawksworth-Lutzow
Person
The quality portion of the plan includes what types of activities will be funded, an annual expenditure report to ensure compliance with the 12% requirement, and a progress report. Lastly, in 2024, trailer bill legislation required the Department of Social Services to provide the Senate and assembly budget committees with, a proposed list of quality improvement activities, that will be funded in the next fiscal year by May 14.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So Dr. Lupe Jaime-Mileham, deputy director of the childcare and development division at CDSS. So I'm gonna just give a brief over opening remarks and then dive into the questions from there. So thank you for that overview. To meet the master plan goal number two and federal CCDF, which is the childcare development fund quality requirement.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
CDSS is advancing a systemic quality investment strategies that strengthens the entire early learning workforce by creating an aligned statewide professional development framework that reflects current research, best practice related to the skills necessary to support California's children and their families.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
The CDSS twenty twenty six, twenty seven quality spending plan also updates grounded in direct feedback from the field offering participants a menu of options such as competencies based education that can lead to degree attainment as well as permit attainment through or professional growth hours. In a sense, it's how they choose what's best for them regarding meeting their community needs.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
As noted in the agenda, the proposed plan includes augmentations and reductions in well invested grounded ACF based on ACF regulations as well as based on master plan that's early care principles. Also, some projects that you might see some reductions on or related to one time investments, meaning they had a base, perhaps they had an augmentation to do translations that has ended and therefore this year that is no longer than needed to to continue as an example of that.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And then finally, I also wanna say in my opening that as mentioned in the previous hearing, due to ACS change in funding methodology, see, California's award was 83,000,000 less than previous allocations and which is the required 12% contract that was mentioned on that too.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So I'm not sure we're tracking that conversation from the last training too from the last hearing. Let me jump really quick to the questions in the agenda. So question number one talks about how the state can better embed professional development and support into these programs. As mentioned, we're governed by the federal childcare and development fund regulations. And as and we're mindful to make sure that our professional developments that we have target the entire mixed delivery system.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So not only that includes our licensed community, but also our license exempt, from the neighbor, as well as those that are not licensed centers to provide care for them for children. As this contractors are informed, our our various menu of options in the sense through our what we call our CECL platform to make sure that they can choose what is best for them to be able to meet their community needs. But most importantly, the professional development is based on EC competencies, foundations, and frameworks.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
As mentioned, it's very research based. And these publications are updated to stay up to date on the research.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So for example, the infant, toddler, foundation, and frameworks has recently been updated to align, right, for coherent resents and articulations with our preschool transitional kindergartener frameworks that were just released. The professional development includes coaching, training, technical assistance, membership, mentorship, financial stipends such as stipends, etcetera, for unit bearing courses at to again lead for degree attainment and permit attainment.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
In terms of question number two, how can the state prioritize the professional development but not included limited to supporting children who are multilingual as well as inclusive classroom approaches? So with that 12% set aside, the proposed plan does include a menu of options that do meet that diverse group of children that are in our care as well as support the workforce itself.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Our every three years when we are working on our state plan, for the next round, we do have a round of what we call learning journeys where we travel up and down the state to not only gather feedback from the field, but also look at our current investments.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
The field itself is able to provide opportunities for to inform that plan that then translates into this quality plan, which many times is a multi year approach in the in these types of investments that we make. That is not the only time that the field also provides as we are rolling out these professional developments or different investments, then we also create surveys and information to understand wait list, to understand whether that is still meeting the needs, where is the gaps, etcetera.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And that we keep also in mind in regards to making these investments. Do you wanna show one bright spot of the many that are there? So please know that I'm not singling them out on purpose, as there is many more that I can share.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
But for instance, one of the investments is the infant early childhood mental health consultation network, And this just gives you an idea of scale. So in 2425, there was 1,800 providers that includes center based and licensed family childcare homes who leveraged their services. It could have been by accessing that helpline, also as well as consultations, trainings, etcetera, safe sessions. Another 333 programs, which translates to a 311 program staff, who also utilized the services and that they're serving, across them about close to 7,000 children.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And then a total of 46 consultants graduated from the program to continue to have that workforce that can provide that culturally sensitive infant early childhood mental health component in their neighborhood. So we wanna continue to grow that pop that group that is providing these services so what they're responsive to these calls and these needs that are coming through. Let me jump to the next question which is the state's quality quality plan whether it's a systemic approach is the question.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And yes, the quality plan is a systemic approach. It supports the evolution of the Professional Development Research that aligns with our learning foundations and framework as mentioned.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
It adjust adjustments to the professional development activities are really driven by data feedback as well as program evaluations. And then also wanna highlight that an example of how the system lives is through our Quality Counts California, QCC, that consists of a tri agency, which is consists of us, Department of Education, California First five leadership working in partnership to make sure we're advancing these goals together and collaboratively and trying to make sure that we are covering the entire system itself.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So it does not fall just within our sector of CTSS, but it's shared across multiple state entities that we're always happy to partner with. In terms of question number four, are these program improvements, in regards to the childcare initiative project, the SIPs, need effectiveness for scale? So CVS says continues to monitor and connect with the field about further understanding areas of improvement.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
In terms of scale, I do wanna highlight that in, that there was an augmentation in fiscal year twenty four, twenty five of 2,000,000, that we're able to to make sure that we are increasing that particular investment in itself to provide more technical assistance.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And just as a recap with SIP itself, as a reminder, it is a professional development that helps individuals that are interested in becoming licensed business for family child care homes as well as center based primary licensed family child care homes, but there is some center based that always goes there. The other component of that is the making sure that we tension occurs.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Not only are you opening your business, you're navigating that role, but you're also keeping up with the retention to make sure that your business continue to stay open, which is a key component of that too. So the technical assistance and stat here is that 320,000 instances of providers of of technical assistance was provided and trained more than 5,000 providers.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So wide scale impact also on that. Question number five talks about how recent the funding of the CCBDG increase for local planning councils as well as in resource and referrals impact families. The online era, that we should look should we look at these standards associated to, research and referral to keep up with this too, new world, new families, and a different modalities to reach those families. So recent funding increase to local planning councils and r and r's have strengthened local capacity to fully meet these needs.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
May a few years back before the transfer happened, many of these programs received a significant reduction because of the at that time, I think it was the recession.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Unfortunately, though, the mandate state though as them continuing to meet those needs. And so in the sense, it was unfunded mandates. So with these increases then in a sense, they were made whole to be able to carry up that work. I say whole as of the moment because we know there is more needs that can also be continuing to be addressed on that too.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And that includes not only providing the local planning councils to providing that report that they provide to us to understand the childcare deserts, but the resource and referrals of being able to circle back with families.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
In terms of the question on the online era, I can speak to this personally myself as I had visited out sites both at local planning councils and resource and referrals to share that I've seen the technology and the advancement of their technology keeping up with what families need both from those that have that utilize technology and want to have information on the, you know, on on your phones or just push up a button versus those that really appreciate still that good old fashioned phone call.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And both are I can attest that both resource and referrals continue to stand up to that and continue to train their staff to make sure that they are meeting those needs within those technology eras. Let me see. Question number six has to do with local planning councils providing the necessary data to talk about the childcare deserts. That is a requirement that they have.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
They all are currently and those are posted on our website to show the reports of what a priority one is, which is a desert. It's party one, two, and three, certain data associates to that. So when we're looking at where are the needs, the priority ones are clinically identified.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
The data is important because we all hold data, but that local voice of that local planning council and that forum that they pull together different individuals there to be able to speak to whether that priority one is truly a priority one is important for them to capture in those reports. I'll use a personal example of many years ago before taking this position.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
There was a priority to in a certain area in Fresno County. I'm originally from Fresno County. And they and when they looked at that a bit deeper, they noticed that the priority two did not include our tribal communities that were further as from opportunity. So we would want to think about are they really a priority one and make an asterisk in regards to why they would perhaps the data did not show that information on there.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So that local boots on the ground is important to lift up those voices and those reports that are posted on our website so we can make decisions on where to prioritize future chakra slots.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And then on question number seven, it has to do with here it is. Are there master plan recommendations revel into the three quality plan investments on this too? So, yes, the quality plan investments achieved for numbers of they they support I think we did a crosswalk between all our investments and where they live on the master plan. And we had assumed that it was about 80%, but no, a 100%.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
They can really live in the master plan when you're looking at all those goals and how to advance those goals.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And so we're proud to say that, yes, that together with the master plan, we are contributing to make sure that those goals are met, of that tear ten year plan. And, of course, we don't do that together. We do it in collaboration with our CD partners as well as the California First five and other state agencies. I wanna, of course, give shout out to the field who is also part of this work as well as the legislator.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
And some examples of that is if I call out, like, goal one, for instance, that talks about program services around infants and toddlers, we have a dedicated funding, The 3% of the quality plan that is strictly on infants and toddlers professional development through the program for infant toddler care, which also not only has professional development, but individuals can also achieve the unit bearing associated to that in case they want to achieve then a infant toddler permit.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So working towards that too or a degree attainment with that too. The final question is in regards to details about the alternative methodology. I will turn that over to Department of Finance to find to provide that response.
- Krishan Malhotra
Person
Good afternoon, chair, members. Krishan Malhotra with Department of Finance. At this time, we have no details to share about the May revision, but California does intend to comply with federal requirements as it relates to our state plan and the alternative methodology.
- Virginia Early
Person
Good afternoon, mister chair, member. Virginia Early from the California Department of Education here on behalf of state superintendent Tony Thurmond. After the launch of universal pre k, as my colleague from DSS mentioned, CDE worked to update and rerelease the, early learning standards for preschool, so the California Preschool and TK Learning Foundations, to make a couple of changes.
- Virginia Early
Person
First, to be more inclusive of TK, to address racial bias, be more inclusive of multilingual learners and children with disabilities, as well as to incorporate the latest science in learning and development. As a follow-up to this, our team has also worked, to revise the desired results developmental profile, which is an observational child assessment, to align with these updates to the preschool TK learning foundations.
- Virginia Early
Person
And this DRDP version twenty twenty five will be mandatory for state preschool programs starting July 1. We note that while we received dollars to update the standards, we did not receive funding for conducting training on it, or training on the recently revised, DRDP so that we have been hearing some things around how that creates implementation challenges for programs. A key part of our ongoing, quality funds at CDE for, state preschool is the state preschool, quality rating and improvement system block grant.
- Virginia Early
Person
This is 50,000,000 annually, Prop 98 funds that goes to 47 county offices of education in 56 counties. It supports the vast majority of state preschool contractors, and, and and those contractors are supporting around 20,000 teachers.
- Virginia Early
Person
And this fund this funds a number of things, but primarily professional development and coaching. It it does some site raising, some quality improvement plans, supporting for implementing different tools. But coaching is the number one item that participants report as helpful, as part of this. One thing about this grant, though, is that it is flat funded and has been flat funded since 2014. It does not receive a cost of living adjustment, which means that the purchasing power for this grant has gone down by 28% over time.
- Virginia Early
Person
So we would need an additional 20,000,000, annually to bring the grant back up to its original purchasing power from 2014. At the same time this has been happening, the number of sites participating has increased by around 22%. So the the the grant has been losing purchasing power while also serving more sites. So that means that, you know, that's had an impact on the amount and types of support that can be provided to sites.
- Virginia Early
Person
Our other main ongoing investment that we have for quality at the California Department of Education for state preschool is our, about 1,110,000.00 annually for our Achieving Success and Positive Interactions, Relationships, and Environments grant or ASPIRE, which supports implementation of the classroom assessment scoring system, which is a tool that that measures the quality of teacher child interactions, which research says is the most predictive of child outcomes.
- Virginia Early
Person
We began implementing CLASS in twenty twenty three, twenty four, and we're phasing in the requirements over time. This year, programs are required to have a 30% of their classrooms observed using CLASS that goes up to 60% next year and a 100% by twenty twenty eight, twenty nine.
- Virginia Early
Person
And this Aspire grant so far has supported almost 2,000, folks that are certified to do the class observations, as well as the necessary number of trainers to train as there's attrition from from those observers to to meet the the thresholds that are set. As was mentioned on the previous panels, we in addition to these ongoing funds, we've had a number of one time funds, so we'll follow-up as you requested, with more information on those.
- Virginia Early
Person
But one of the ones I wanted to highlight specifically to this panel is the early, early education teacher development grant.
- Virginia Early
Person
That's a grant that's supported professional development as well as training the teachers needed for UPK expansion and has supported both state preschool, TK, and TK. We are seeing that in counties in 52 counties that have these grants, there's still the grantees are still reporting a shortfall of nearly 700 adults, for TK classrooms, and that's the most recent, you know, and I'm sure if we asked everyone today, what do you need, that number would have changed a little bit.
- Virginia Early
Person
There are six counties that don't even have these grants. So there's a there's a there's a a need that's been partially met by these grants, but these grants are going away. And and 30% of those grantees are on track to finish spending their funds this fiscal year.
- Virginia Early
Person
So even though they have until 2028 to spend their funds, a lot of that support we have, in one time professional development for the EPK system is really winding down right now. I'll I'll I'll try to go through some of your questions, although happy to follow-up in more detail as well. In terms of better embedding professional development, a couple things, and this is actually one of the master plan recommendations is to make sure that there's release time for teachers for professional development.
- Virginia Early
Person
Two professional development days in state preschool is not enough. And, in fact, the alternative methodology, in the estimation, the estimation was that state preschool teachers would have five and a quarter professional development days, so more than double what we currently have, as well as additional time for release time and for family conferences.
- Virginia Early
Person
So that would really help. And also making those days, so that they're fully funded, which they're not currently, and updating the list of topics that, folks can use those days for. So, for example, you can like, there, you know, there there are things that we'd wanna add to list. Like, you can use the days for training on preschool TK learning foundations. So sort of like the last time that list was looked at was, a couple years ago.
- Virginia Early
Person
We also, in terms of question two, prioritizing areas for professional support, We think that the state's investment in the classroom assessment scoring system or CLAS through ASPIRE is extremely helpful. We're we're collecting data for the first time this year on what the CLAS scores are, so how are teachers interacting with students, what do those interactions look like. And it gives programs tons of useful information.
- Virginia Early
Person
And to fully leverage this promise, additional funding would be needed to support programs to use the information they're getting from the observation to change their practice. And and there's some that we're able to do, but to really fully leverage it, we've we've been using some one time funds for from our Inclusive Early Education Expansion program to support interactions for children with disabilities.
- Virginia Early
Person
Those funds are going away. So additional funds could help really leverage the data we're getting and the data that teachers are getting to say, okay. This is how I'm doing in terms of interacting with children, and then really sort of leverage that promise. And this could be employed to address, you know, interactions with children who are dual language learners or interactions with children who might be having behaviors that challenge adults.
- Virginia Early
Person
The other thing that we mentioned here is that a lot of these supports, like QRIS, CLASS, these are not available for TK teachers.
- Virginia Early
Person
The we there is no ongoing funding that the department has specifically for TK teacher professional development. All of that is one time. So that would that would be part of that as well. And and in terms of question three, I think my colleague at DSS mentioned how we've got a multisystem approach. We have different players.
- Virginia Early
Person
We have three departments involved. And, you know, one thing that we would add is that, you know, support for training on the California State Preschool Learning Foundations is actually not training that CDE administers. That's in the DSS quality budget. That's the, I think, the California Preschool Instructional Network. So, you know, we would we would just sort of ask that this be responsive to changes in requirements.
- Virginia Early
Person
We've had a lot changes in the state preschool, over the last couple years with with shifting to younger children, with shifting to children with disabilities, with, with the the the new learning foundations. And so, sort of making sure, you know, that that our programs are getting the support they need. However, that is administrated, but that that that's a need that we're hearing from folks.
- Virginia Early
Person
I'd also mentioned in terms of the systemic approach that First five California has been funding, a lot of components of the quality infrastructure very graciously for many years. And as their revenue declines, that's something that we're going to have to reckon with as a state.
- Virginia Early
Person
We estimate at CDE that we would need an additional 5,000,000 to backfill loss capacity that will go away when the first fund five funding declines. On on question number five on R&Rs, just really quickly on this, so we've had the UPK mixed delivery block grant UPK mixed delivery grant funding, which, some R&Rs have used.
- Virginia Early
Person
So some some grantees have used to partner with R&Rs so that R&Rs have the resources to call their districts and figure out, okay, you know, how many TK slots do you have at this campus? And and get that real time data. We publish TK data at the site level at, the department, but it's it's not real time.
- Virginia Early
Person
And so so one thing to just note on your question on R&R's, I know it was mostly to DSS, but just that in in many counties, they've been using these one time funds to sort of help support families finding TK, and those one time funds are going away. And then finally, I would just, on the master plan pieces, I think, defer to my colleague at DSS, but, you know, a couple things that I would just pull out a little bit.
- Virginia Early
Person
First of all, the master plan recommends increasing reimbursement rates, and and addressing that. That is still very much a need that we see. And then also on the workforce side, we made some really good progress as a state, but we we think more needs to be done.
- Virginia Early
Person
And one thing that we've learned from our early education teacher development grant is that, one of the most useful things that people find in addition to coaching is, having a strong mentoring system to help navigate, you know, and provide counseling for teacher candidates so that they can navigate, okay. You know, how how am I supposed to get through so I can become a state preschool teacher, so I can become a TK teacher?
- Virginia Early
Person
So that the early education teacher development grant is providing a lot around that, around cohort models and apprenticeships, and just wanting to highlight. And we'll send you more later, to your response, but since you were asking about that, I wanted to share. And I think that concludes.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Alright. Questions from committee members at this time? Just a couple of questions. Number one first, not a question, but CDE, let's schedule a meeting before the May revise. I wanna totally understand what all your needs are And so that we can make sure that we don't miss anything.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
It just seems like there's a lot we could be missing. CDSS, local planning councils, it's not just about finding out how many slots we need or what type of slots we need. Are we forgetting are they providing us with that information as well? How many cocombased slots do we may do we need? How many community based slots do we need?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I mean, right? I mean, how detailed are we getting this information?
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So the report that the local planning council confirms is in regards to title five. So it's more in regards to slots with center base. They don't track the private sector, which is family, childcare, homes, etcetera, that you're asking for. However, the resource and referral also does a portfolio every couple years, and I'll have to double check that.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
But that's where they talk about the need and also talk about the difference of calls as well as the different the different stats around licensed family, child care homes, etcetera that we have on there.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So SIP so all programs so the the the 12% is funded through the list that you have is funded through the CCDF, Tougher Development Fund, which is 12% of that with a reduction, then we have to have more conversation in regards to if there's any impacts. Of course, we are looking at making sure that we provide minimum, you know, impacts to the programs.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Department of Finance, do you anticipate a decrease in SIP funds?
- Krishan Malhotra
Person
Krishan Malhotra, Department of Finance. I would defer to the department mostly. They're working on and to you know, we're we're working on absorbing any reduction to quality funding in the current year to ensure there's no service disruption.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Okay. It will be helpful if you guys answer the question the way I need it, not the way you wanna give it to me. So I understand what you're saying to me. Right? My question is, if you look at the amount of money we spent this fiscal year on SIP, do we anticipate a reduction in that number in the next fiscal year when we see the Bay revised as well?
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
We're still running that analysis. That's why we're not able to answer that question. So we're looking at and the reason why is because the analysis includes so it's not a particular target of program that we're looking at. We're looking at the unspent funds. We're looking at those one time to see if the savings, but our goal is to observe as much as possible.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Okay. Then we'll we'll double back on this after the May revise so that we have some better context. Overall question for both CDE and CDSS, is our quality improving, and how do we know? We know what programs we've done. We know how much money we spent.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
Yeah. So I believe that our quality is improving, and we're seeing it in different ways. One, we're seeing it at the up take of professional development and degree attainment that is taken up by the workforce. So before, we would have to do extreme outreach to bring to make sure they were aware of their programs. Now there's wait list.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
There's interest, etcetera. The reason why we see quality improvement is because in during the monitoring review, which includes also looking at the sites as part of the title five, for example The monitors are able to take up subscale, a couple scales from the environmental rating scale. And they're able to see what is happening in those settings and then provide technical assistance if there's any concerns regarding quality.
- Maria Jaime-Mileham
Person
So be coupled together with that, and I'm sure I'm forgetting other things that we're doing, I do believe that quality continues to improve as long as we continue to provide access to these programs.
- Virginia Early
Person
One thing that I would add is that oh, sorry. My Siri. One thing I would add is that part of the reason we
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
It's just sort of flashing. Okay. Yeah. It does that sometimes. I just don't wanna ignore it. You know?
- Virginia Early
Person
So, you know, one thing that we would mention is we have seen improvements on all indicators of the local control accountability plan. I would also say with specific to early education, one of the reasons we are so excited when the legislature put in the budget to shift us from our previous way of measuring classroom quality to, the the class assessment is that the class observational scores are most directly correlated with, child outcomes.
- Virginia Early
Person
So, you know, with child outcomes, the thing that I mean, this is sort of intuitive if you think about it. The interactions that the child and the teacher has are more predictive of how they're doing than, you know, how many toys they have in the classroom, which was a component of the previous, the previous assessment we've been using to measure quality.
- Virginia Early
Person
And so this is the first year that we have, this is the first year that we've had some data on on, on what the class scores are now.
- Virginia Early
Person
We're still only looking at 30% of classrooms. And so we think that this is gonna be a really useful metric moving forward for the state to check-in to see how we to answer your question moving forward. I will say that when you look at the data we have so far, it does track with a national average, in terms of how children in state preschool are doing.
- Virginia Early
Person
I will also say that that data is you know, we we understand that class the the the classrooms that are getting observed first are the classrooms that, you know, the teachers are already pretty familiar with the tool. And, of course, part of part of this the promise of it is that if you understand better how you're doing in terms of child teacher interactions, then you can think about it and improve too.
- Virginia Early
Person
And so we'll see how that changes over time as we get from 30% of classrooms looked at to a 100% and as teachers are sort of thinking about what that that measurement is telling them reflecting back into their own practice and improving. Okay.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Thank you. So in that same vein about with quality, are we seeing improvements in childcare workforce? And if we are seeing those improvements, how what's the metric for that? How do we do that? So I heard, you know, the child outcomes, but can you simplify that and help me understand what that metric for success for our workforce looks like?
- Virginia Early
Person
Yeah. So that's that's a great question. Thank you for asking that, and we may need to think about that some more, at CDE. We have recently made some changes to our data system to allow us to collect more information about teachers CSPP teachers for the first time. And so that's some data that that we're looking at, and are are allowing us to look at some of this stuff.
- Virginia Early
Person
So I think that we may need to follow-up with you and and see what some of those those outputs are. I will say that one thing that we have heard repeatedly is a is a challenge is the low, the low reimbursement rates, which affects salaries. And just some of the things that we've talked about in other hearings around, you know, folks being concerned about putting the cost of care plus funds into contracts. Sorry. Into staff salaries because they're concerned that they're not ongoing.
- Virginia Early
Person
And so then that affects teacher recruitment and teacher retention because, you know, they can find higher salary somewhere else. So that's that's a big part of the educator, piece that that we, have been spending some time looking at.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Yeah. I think as we look at numbers and spending, it's it's really great and a good story to highlight the wins, the things that are working, especially when we're asking for more in expansion, and to show the data and the facts about how we're seeing that improvement. That's a different conversation with before the May revise. So just some thoughts there. Thank you.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Thank you very much. The best practice in terms of professional development is recommended as about five days, you're saying?
- Virginia Early
Person
So what I was saying is that, using the the the state went through a process of costing the true cost of care. And as part of that and the focus groups that DSS led, and I'm sure DSS would be happy to share more about that. But there was there was a a analysis of sort of what folks needed to get to the true cost of care.
- Virginia Early
Person
And so the numbers I cited for professional development days were sort of the the inputs that were put into the alternative methodology based on the feedback DSS got as they went through the alternative methodology. And that was five and a quarter days of professional development for any state preschool programs or direct contract title five programs administered by DSS.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
How much would it cost us to provide five days of professional development?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Thank you very much. I think all this is to say is is that, you know, we we wanna make sure that we're getting the best bang for our buck and more money doesn't necessarily translate into better quality. And so I want us to continue to start laser focusing on quality improvements, and it looks like we're starting to see the initial data come in when it comes to some of those metrics of quality improvements and those type of things.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But it also is that, you know, I I want us to make sure that our our outcomes is exceeding the national average. We always wanna be in the best in so many things, but for some reason, when it comes to our kids, we never really want to be the best.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
We just say, well, we're just as good as everyone else. That doesn't seem like a California thing to say. Right? And so I want us to start, you know, taking a deeper dive on this and making sure that we're codifying we're legislators. We like to codify stuff.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I know y'all don't like it, but we do. We want to codify the goals we're trying to set that are above average. Right? And by what time? What is a reasonable time to be able to fully implement the right professional development to give our educators what they need and then give them the time to continue to perfect their craft?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Right? So that at the end of the day, we know whether we're inching towards that instead of just saying, yeah, we keep getting better, but, okay, when are we gonna say we did it? And I don't know. I've been chair of this committee for about three years. This is my fourth year, and I've I've yet to hear that.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Right? And so I I think we wanna codify as much as possible before the new governor comes so we don't have to negotiate with them. We can just put it in, so that we can start making sure that the consistency is across administrations, the consistency is, across legislatures. Right? Which is why we wanna focus on systemic changes.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
The systemic changes go beyond people. Right? It goes throughout time and not based upon one legislature's goals, one governor's goals. But we wanna make sure that we're truly setting up the next generation for success, and we are supporting systems that are adhering to the fidelity of best practices. Lot of deep diving to do, before we get to the May revise, and then after that, we'll do some reactions to that.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But at the end of the day is we we're gonna start zeroing in on these things. We have a whole lot of data flying around now, and I think we can use there's enough data flying around to make some real reasonable and realistic goals to be set, and the right targeted investments to ensure that we're getting there. But we need we are not going to allow our ECE system to continue to be on life support. That is not okay for children.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
For your children to be on life support is a recipe for disaster for a civilization, and we've gotta do better.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So CDE will have our not so secret meeting together, and we'll dive a little bit deeper to figure out what we can do to continue to move the needle. But the status quo is not acceptable. Okay? Thank you very much to this panel.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I hope you've been practicing your two minutes, because once you hear two minute and miss, that's it. This is our time for public comment. We're gonna ask people to please keep the volume down as you're transitioning. Please take your let's keep it down, please. Keep it down, please.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Keep if you want conversations, go to the hallways. We gotta finish this public comments. Name and affiliation, please.
- Celine Crimson
Person
Hi. My name is Celine Crimson, and I'm the president of Educational Enrichment Systems and a member of Every Child California. EES has been serving low income families since 1979. I've actually been with the agency starting as a lead teacher since 1993. We serve children zero to five.
- Celine Crimson
Person
Like miss Mendoza spoke earlier, ES has done everything that the state has asked us, including increasing access. Since March 2020, we've opened six schools, in childcare deserts in San Diego County. Our number one issue has been recruiting quality staff. We desperately need to increase a rate to pay our staff the wage that they deserve. Please continue to work on the single rate structure so that reimbursement rates reflect the true cost of care.
- Celine Crimson
Person
We need to acknowledge that programs like ES are still in survival mode and can no longer keep California can no longer keep putting a Band Aid. Right? You talked about, life support. We can't keep putting a Band Aid on something that's continuing to to bleed. Our quality education programs are essential aspect to our economy.
- Celine Crimson
Person
Our families are working, looking for work, and going to school. Many of them are doing all of the above. Programs like ES provide high quality care. We ask that you protect the CCTR investments, commit to enrollment based reimbursement, and we need to keep keep our flex factor. And, hopefully, we can stop the bleeding.
- Sara Salazar
Person
Hi. My name is Sara Salazar, and I am with Educational Enrichment Systems just like Celine. So it's an honor to be here. Thank you so much. Educational Enrichment Systems, is all throughout San Diego County.
- Sara Salazar
Person
We have 20 sites. We serve low income families and children ages infant through five, through our CSPP and CCTR contract. Our number one challenge is recruitment staff recruiting staff. We desperately need an increase in our rate so that we can pay our staff a livable wage in San Diego. I ask that you please continue your work your work on the single rate structure so that the reimbursement rate reflects the cost of care.
- Sara Salazar
Person
I ask you also for your commitment to, continue the enrollment based reimbursement and support the flex factor. Thank you again for your time.
- Annie Patzold
Person
Good afternoon. I'm Annie Patzold. I'm also with Educational Enrichment Systems. I've been in the early childhood education field for over twenty years, and I have seen firsthand how preschool teachers shape a child's very first experience with schools and their confidence in learning for years to come. Because of the current workforce crisis, many of our most dedicated and talented teachers will continue to leave the field because they are not earning a livable wage.
- Annie Patzold
Person
With rate reform that reflects the true cost of care, we will be able to increase our salary scales to better support our teachers and keep passionate teachers in the classroom where they are needed most. We are also asking for the adoption of the flex facts factor. This will allow programs that meet 85% of their contract to be fully funded and to be reimbursed based on enrollment rather than attendance.
- Annie Patzold
Person
The stability will ensure we can keep our doors open and continue serving families who rely on us every single day. Thank you for your continued support.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
We are off to a great start. Let's see who's gonna screw it up.
- Kim Lewis
Person
Oh, man. No pressure there. Kim Lewis with Children Now and a proud member of the ECE coalition and and will align with their our colleagues' as well and just appreciate the chair's comments for just now about doing better by our kids. California's ambitious preschool expansion deserves recognition and appreciation of your leadership while also recognizing that families with young children are under an extraordinary strain, which impacts the outcomes that our public education system is working to achieve.
- Kim Lewis
Person
The Stanford Center on Early Childhoods ran survey just found this January that ninety percent of families with young children are experiencing emotional distress, the highest recorded level, while other states top out at sixty percent.
- Kim Lewis
Person
And our birth rate is declining rapidly. Expanding early learning and care after opportunities for children beyond four year olds is essential to California's overall future future. Research shows that, investing early, reduces our has a really strong return of investment of $13 for every dollar invested in strong programs for our youngest learners.
- Kim Lewis
Person
As California expands UPK, we have an opportunity to strengthen the birth to five system, especially for two and three year olds, by aligning efforts with programs like Head Start that have decades of evidence showing improvements in children's school readiness while also supporting parents with comprehensive services. By leveraging that proven infrastructure, California can build an early learning system that truly works for children and families and help solve multiple challenges of poverty, workforce strain, and family economic security.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Did you feel the pressure? Yes. I could I could tell. I could tell. Let's see how he does.
- Ken Herron
Person
My name excuse me. My name is Ken Herron. I'm a preschool provider in Selma, California. We have four sites. To answer your question regarding whether we know their teachers are getting better, the quality, improvement, programs you talked about, they, the the county offices, do the work.
- Ken Herron
Person
They rate you every five years, and then they do, annual monitoring. This last year, we got re rerated, with our five years, and we went from a four to a five star. If you're a three star, you need improvement. You can't be worse than that. If you're four, you're good.
- Ken Herron
Person
And we've been that for, you know, since 2014. This last year, we we got fives, and you get more money for that. So there's incentive from that fund, but there are more people involved in it now. So it'd be nice to have that fund, you know, increased a little bit. But, yeah, that's one example.
- Ken Herron
Person
Regarding the professional development days, you could basically, we we'll get paid for two hundred and forty six days of service. If we're not open, we don't get paid when there's not a hold harmless. So you could take five days divided by two hundred and forty six and basically multiply that times whatever the billions of dollars is that the is funded for that whole full day per and that would give you I'm
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Sorry, sir. I'm a political science major. We don't do numbers. We don't do math.
- Ken Herron
Person
Ask them to do that. The on on the cost of care, I'm I'm here for that, obviously. Last year, one of the gentlemen, the assembly members, brought up where is the source of funding for that.
- Ken Herron
Person
That was never discussed through all this process, the master plan on up about getting a candy tax or soda tax or something like that. So please don't wait for that, and please get it implemented before Newsom leaves because, you know, who knows? And I really appreciate you and mister Alvarez in particular. You I've been here four times. I see the questions that you ask.
- Ken Herron
Person
I see how your heartfelt your opinions are, your comments, your questions, you're vitally interested in this, and my teachers really appreciate it. So thank you so much for your dedication.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Thank you. You get another minute for that. Let's see if you got the juice.
- Aurora Reyes
Person
Don't put me on the spot. So good afternoon, chair and distinguished committee members. I'm Aurora Reyes. I bring nineteen years of experience as a family child care provider from Los Angeles, California, and I represent SEIU Local ninety nine. Okay. Now that I'm done with that, I'm here today to advocate for recognition of family child care as a fundamental component of early learning Deserving of equivalent level of investment that is allocated for preschool, pre k, and t k programs.
- Aurora Reyes
Person
My professional background includes me teaching both in a preschool and a head start prior to me starting my family childcare business. And I deliberately chose that path due to my profound commitment to provide a service to the community that I live in. And my desire is to customize early childhood education to meet the unique needs of the children under my care and in my community. Family child care providers are unequivocally early educators.
- Aurora Reyes
Person
We lay the essential groundwork for children's success in kindergarten and throughout their academic journeys.
- Aurora Reyes
Person
The educational value we offer is not merely equivalent to preschool. It can often be more effective and impactful. Our smaller class sizes enable us to provide more individualized attention. I hold such strong conviction that in this approach that I educated my own son in my program. When discussing enhancements to early learning, it is imperative to acknowledge that family child care providers are already actively engaged in this vital work.
- Aurora Reyes
Person
So, consequently, they warrant investments as a core element of our state's diversified delivery system. And I'm asking that you include us in this conversation with transitional kindergarten.
- Claudia Alvarado
Person
Good afternoon, chair and committee members. My name is Claudia Alvarado. I am a childcare provider twenty five years plus, four degrees, five college certificates, and I'm a proud member of CCPU SEIU Local five two one, my union. I am here to talk to you about the retirement for providers. Keeping family childcare providers in the workforce is crucial, and retirement benefits play an important role in that equation.
- Claudia Alvarado
Person
For too long, family childcare providers work with little to no financial security for their futures. That reality made it hard for providers to stay in their profession. CCPU's retirement benefit fund has begun to change that. As it gives a pathway to financial security later in life and the confidence that providers can stay in the field. This matters not just for providers, but for children too.
- Claudia Alvarado
Person
Providers with years of dedication and decades and experience bring deep knowledge and expertise to that benefit to our families. Maintaining a skilled, stable workforce is achieved by giving providers the assurance that they need that their own families will have stability, retirement benefits. Do just that. Thank you very much for your questions, for your interest, and let's get this going before the new governor comes.
- Mira Nalgore
Person
Hello. Good afternoon, chair and members of the committee. My name is Mira Nal Gore, and I'm a proud member of UDW Local 3930 CCPU. I have been a licensed family childcare provider for the last point going on twenty nine years, second generation family childcare provider.
- Mira Nalgore
Person
And I'm here to talk to you about how the CCPU training fund is helping professionalize the profession and supporting early child in home early childhood educators across California by providing an invaluable resource to family childcare providers and running and improving our programs.
- Mira Nalgore
Person
As our executive director mentioned during one of the panels, the system that is utilized is a peer to peer training model that allows providers to learn from other providers. So providers, we learn crucial information about early learning and development. We learn about ASQs. We learn about how to observe, developmental, differences in in young, children. And it also helps us improve our business practices and the quality of care that we provide.
- Mira Nalgore
Person
So at times, we have also provided the know your rights information for providers to keep themselves and others safe. When I say others safe, it means the children and the families that we're serving. So the training fund helps strengthen the workforce and the system as a whole by creating community and educational opportunities for family childcare. Thank you.
- Celeste Valle
Person
Hi. Good afternoon, chair and committee. My name is Celeste Valle. I am here, with CCPU and all our members, and I am speaking on behalf of our member, Monica Andrade, who had to leave to catch a flight. Monica would like to share that, she is a proud member of SCIU Local ninety nine Child Care Providers United and has been a child care provider for twenty one years in the city of Ontario.
- Celeste Valle
Person
Expanding she was here to speak to you about how expanding access to affordable health care options is how we can help providers keep their doors open. Nobody does it like child care providers do it. Right? We get up every single day and provide quality, affordable care to the children of the working class parents in our communities. The kids who come to my home, I care for them like I care for my family.
- Celeste Valle
Person
But who cares for us? Right? This is what many providers ask. Monica is 57 years old, and sometimes, she says, my body does not cooperate with me the way it used to. The health care fund my union won has been a relief.
- Celeste Valle
Person
I am proud to have been a part of this fight. The CCPU health care fund is why I can go to the doctor without having to put my business at risk or going under. And it is a similar story for many of my colleagues. The overwhelming majority of childcare providers who can't pay for an emergency expense of just $400 at any given moment. Without affordable health care options, we are forced to ration care for ourselves and our loved ones.
- Celeste Valle
Person
It shouldn't be this way. Affordable health care and funds like the CCPU health care fund help us help our community and stay healthy. Expanding access to affordable health care is not just a benefit. It is a critical investment in California's child care system. Thank you.
- Fernando Hernandez
Person
Good afternoon, sirs. My name is Fernando Hernandez. I'm from Santa Clara County, member of CCPU, CU 521. Here's what I have to say. California childcare system is becoming increasingly unstable as the children are pulled into programs like transitional kindergarten centers without a balanced approach.
- Fernando Hernandez
Person
When a family child care provider lose children to other programs, it can have a huge destabilizing impact, unlike in large centers. Family child care providers operate on very thin margins, and this in the stabilized can force them to close just like we did. Family childcare is particularly flexible and important. Family childcare providers work extended hours, provide valuable service like transportation, and can accommodate the diverse needs of families and more effectively.
- Fernando Hernandez
Person
While many families end up sending their kids to programs like TK, these programs also often leave them struggling to piece together options to meet their needs.
- Fernando Hernandez
Person
Choosing a free option due to financial necessity and not because it is the best fit for a family needs is not actually true choice. All of this creates a domino effect when the family childcare providers close their doors. It reduce overall supply and choice for families, often removing the flexibility and specialized care many children need. Fewer family childcare providers means fewer options and more competition for other programs, leaving families in large with less choice and flexibility.
- Fernando Hernandez
Person
In a mixed delivery systems, our firms with childcare play an important role when we need a balanced system that actually meets needs of family.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
You're double dipping. I am. I am. Okay. Oh, have mercy. I'll be quick. I promise. Andrea Fernandez Mendoza, California Children's Academy. Protect the CCTR investments. Let us finish what we started.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
Codify the re the enrollment based reimbursement with the 15% flex flex factor. It doesn't cost any more money. It's already allocated funds. Make the CSPP two year old flexibility permanent. Keep those programs open.
- Andrea Mendoza
Person
Programs depend on those age groups to keep their their stability. All of these support the master plan. It's time to give the workforce the stability that it's earned and that they deserve. Thank you for standing up for us. You walk your talk, and we appreciate that. And I have ideas I will be emailing you.
- Kareem Weaver
Person
My name is Kareem Weaver. I'm executive director of Fulcrum, which is a literacy nonprofit. I was here earlier, and there was a there were some people offering their thoughts and ideas and about the screener. And I just wanna say that it was intended so that we would not wait for kids to fail. We would catch them on the front end and help them before it got to, you know and that's exactly what's happening.
- Kareem Weaver
Person
It's not a bad thing. That's a good thing. If we find them and then if there's reading difficulties and then later on in a year, we find out that those difficulties have been mitigated, that is the whole point. And it's almost like we're so used to things not working that when it does work, we don't really know what to do with it. But that's what we want.
- Kareem Weaver
Person
And so I just and I I know some of the people are gone who was here before, but I I appreciate it there. Like, they're just thinking through and and trying to make sure that we keep the main thing the main thing. I just you know? And and there was another comment about, over identifying kids. That's part of like, for special ed.
- Kareem Weaver
Person
But that's that was part of the legislation, my understanding, that we don't use these screeners to identify kids and and and track them towards special ed. That's not what it's about. So, anyway, I just wanted to name that. And it's almost like a celebration, except we're trying to take away the thing that's working anyway. So I just wanted to name that because I think it's important to say. Thank you all.
- Olia Cruz
Person
Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Olia Corona de LA Cruz, and I'm the senior campaign director with Families in Schools. And I also, lead the Rita LA campaign out in Los Angeles with a network of 16 organizations who are really committed to ensuring, positive and increased literacy outcomes for all of our students.
- Olia Cruz
Person
And today, on behalf of the California Literacy Coalition, I urge you to respectfully urge you to preserve the 40,000,000 investment in educator training for eating difficulty screening and to reject the proposed restrictions on screening timelines.
- Olia Cruz
Person
Through our work with families, we know that early identification is critical. And according to research by the University of Oregon, screening at the beginning, middle, and end of the year is a best practice. Right? And to answer mister Oliver's question earlier, delaying screening until later in the school year means students miss critical opportunities, to receive timely support and also track their progress, which can limit their ability to improve and succeed in their literacy journey.
- Olia Cruz
Person
So we urge you to allow this work to continue and evaluate a full year of data.
- Nicole Kate
Person
Nicole Kate, The Reading Blade California. I urge you as well to preserve the 40,000,000 investment to support the implementation of the reading difficulties risk screener and recommend rejecting the proposed statutory restrictions on screening timelines. The bill was designed to ensure students with reading difficulties are identified early and receive timely support. Universal screening is the first critical step in a multi tiered system of support, allowing schools to quickly identify students who are asked at risk and begin those important targeted interventions.
- Nicole Kate
Person
California is in the early stages of this rollout, and school districts have selected their tools, built implementation plans, and started modifying their tiered systems of support.
- Nicole Kate
Person
Altering the requirements at this point would force districts to adjust those plans, diverting the focus from effective implementation and the response to screener data to putting into effect this new timeline. Effective implementation requires allowing districts the time to carry out their current policies and gather meaningful data and reflect on the impact in their local context before making any statutory changes. We respectfully encourage ledge legislature to continue the funding and remove these statutory requirements. Thank you.
- McClain Rozanski
Person
Good afternoon. I'm McClain Rozanski with the Alameda County Office of Education. In addition to operating court and community schools, we also provide support to 18 school districts in the county on a range of implementation issues, including transitional kindergarten. We and our districts collectively serve more than 200,000 students. On the topic of universal preschool, we request additional funding to keep the UPK coordinator work by county offices of education going.
- McClain Rozanski
Person
It provides vital early learning technical assistance, information, and professional development to local education agencies. We appreciate the panel's comments in support of UPK coordinators. On the topic of reading screening, we support the budget proposal for 40,000,000 in one time funds for the successful implementation of reading screenings and to expand the pool of screeners. However, since staff will need to be trained on an annual basis, we believe ongoing funds are needed for successful long term implementation.
- McClain Rozanski
Person
We support the trailer bill language that recommends waiting until at least the ninety first day of school year of the school year to administer the screening instrument to kindergarten students and appreciate the panel's comments to this effect.
- McClain Rozanski
Person
The trailer bill language does not preclude other types of assessments earlier in the year or multiple assessments, but recognizes the need for kindergarten students to lay a foundation and adjust their new learning environment before being formally screened. We fear that otherwise our youngest students may be over identified for special education. Thank you.
- Nina Buthee
Person
Hello. Nina Buthee, the executive director of Every Child California. We represent 2,500 publicly funded early care and education programs across the state. You've heard from a number of them today. I want to, talk about a specific, recommendation for enrollment best practice for our for our California state preschool program, and that would be to fix access to neighborhood eligibility criteria, by providing community based organizations with maps of the eligibility service area for each of their neighborhood schools.
- Nina Buthee
Person
Right now, each community based organization needs to reach out to each elementary school separately and individually to verify eligibility. We don't think this is a good use of the time and is indicative of the DASA why community based organizations do not use this provision very regularly. We think this one change will really make a big effect in the state and will help families get access to those full day, full year services.
- Nina Buthee
Person
I would also be remiss if I didn't talk about the two year old provision for, California state preschool program. The state is really looking to serve those younger age children.
- Nina Buthee
Person
State preschool programs have stepped up. They've changed their classrooms. They've gotten the, curriculum and professional development for their teachers. Let's not change them slow down the momentum now. Let's keep that permanent.
- Nina Buthee
Person
So thank you so much. Happy to provide the committee with any technical information that we can.
- McKenzie Richardson
Person
Thank you, chair and members. Mackenzie Richardson on behalf of Thriving Families California Foundation representing 70 community based organizations across California that connect families with access to services such as child care and other family supports. We align our comments with the ECE Coalition, which is just a couple of paces behind me. As California continues to expand preschool access and implement a mix delivery system alongside transitional kindergarten, it is critical that existing programs have flexibility to effectively serve families.
- McKenzie Richardson
Person
Alternative payment program contractors play a key role in the system and need the flexibility to respond to family needs in real time, maximize existing funds, and ensure available spaces, reach families currently waiting for care, which we have 1,800,000 eligible children in the state who currently are not receiving care services.
- McKenzie Richardson
Person
For the expansion of preschool and transitional kindergarten to be successful, the state must build upon, not work around, the existing infrastructure of resource and referral programs and alternative payment programs. These programs are on the ground connecting families' work needs to available early learning options and ensuring that families can access care that aligns with their schedules, supports workforce participation, and sustains family stability. At the same time, resource and referral programs remain an integral part of connecting families to care as was touched on earlier in the hearing.
- McKenzie Richardson
Person
As the state works to improve access, families need clear trusted navigation support to understand their options and enroll in programs that meet their needs, particularly within a mixed delivery system that can otherwise be very difficult to navigate. Ensuring flexibility for APP contractors and sustained investment in resource and referrals agencies is essential to making the system work as intended, supporting working families and maximizing the impact of the state's investments in early learning.
- McKenzie Richardson
Person
You for your leadership and continued commitment to California's families.
- Jennifer Greppy
Person
Hi there. Jennifer Greppy with Parent Voices California, and we had, 28 parents and kids here today because this issue is so critical for their survival. On issue one, we are also aligned with the ECE Coalition. Parents need access to full day, full year programs that meet the needs of their families. We need to serve all the children in the family, otherwise mom can't work or go to school like we heard in Carmen's story earlier.
- Jennifer Greppy
Person
With the HR1 cuts, families are facing so much right now. New work requirements and the possibility of losing their food benefits and health care if they don't meet those. Without child care, all of this foundational support will be lost. They won't be able to meet those work requirements and they won't be able to survive. In this new world, literally between the cost of living and inflation along with work requirements, we must find a way to fund more spaces for their kids.
- Jennifer Greppy
Person
It's what we promised them. It's called the whole Cham family, whole child approach. We must fund the 77,000 spaces that we promised and the true cost of care. Last, I just wanted to say you talked about codification, and we did codify those 77,000 spaces. And, like, we have to follow through on them. And so thank you.
- Maéva Marc
Person
Maeva Wino with Kidango. And today, I'm here on behalf of the ECE Budget Coalition. Thank you for this opportunity to discuss how to make improvements to our system. Fully supporting what, Melanie, doctor Andrea, Alexa, and Carmen shared. As our ECE system continues to grow and there's a huge need, we know that there's a struggle ahead, and we cannot meet the needs without, adopting an alternative rate that reflects the fair wage.
- Maéva Marc
Person
And you asked the question, how can we invent our systems to support families? This alternative methodology is the reinvention. We need to find a way to make sure that programs are fully funded in a way to best meet the needs of the families and the choices that they choose to put their children in, the type of childcare programs they wanna put their children in. Formulas are not perfect.
- Maéva Marc
Person
And while we want to ensure that ECE spaces serve various communities, at some point, we need to be flexible enough to reallocate funds, to serving children and families in other communities.
- Maéva Marc
Person
As my colleague just mentioned about the codification of the spaces, we wanna make sure that, you know, we continue to follow through on that work. We have expanded childcare here, and it it has been a major growth. But we need time and support to fully implement that growth to be able to serve that 1,800,000 of eligible children that we have here in California. And I just wanna say, it was wonderful to see Dyson here today.
- Maéva Marc
Person
And at the same time, my heart hurt because he should have been with peers.
- Maéva Marc
Person
He should have been in an environment that was, taking care of his social emotional learning and not having to be here. And his mom, Carmen, what she shared about the dreams that she has for her children, This is California. There's this thing that I've heard. I'm from Florida, and I've always heard about the California dream. To hear that.
- Maéva Marc
Person
I know. Me too. That's why I moved here. And and the California dream, that's something that our families, there's 28 of them out there that's going to come and speak about what they want for their children and what they want. And we have to work with them if we want to see the residents of this state thrive.
- Maéva Marc
Person
And so I'm excited to continue to have these conversations with you. You brought up prop 98. Please keep bringing that up. What other questions you have about that? Thank you.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Are there parents waiting outside? Are there any parents in line right now? Let's bring in those parents, please. You can come on up.
- Amy De La Salle
Person
Thank you. First parent, maybe. My name is Amy De La Salle. I'm speaking in my capacity as the chair of legislation and advocacy of the third district PTA and as a parent. I urge rejection of the trailer bill additions to section five three zero zero eight because delaying early reading difficulty screening is contrary to good practice and contrary to California State PTA's twenty twenty three resolution to promote evidence based practices for teaching reading.
- Amy De La Salle
Person
I was part of that. Secondly, I urge retaining the governor's $40,000,000 line item for reading screener implementation. Implementation is right now in its first year and is not fully stood up in my opinion. Advocates and parents are rightly concerned that districts barely have a handle on the screener and still must develop and maintain largely new instructional practices. And I will add, as parent, no longer PTA hat without any visibility whatsoever.
- Amy De La Salle
Person
And if I had a magic wand, I would ask you to allow explicitly those screeners to go three times a year, the use of the tool, and then you could ask for the growth numbers between those and make your budget decisions based on growth results. Thank you very much.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I know there's parents who need to catch their flights. Parents come on up.
- Elizabeth -
Person
Hello. My name is Elizabeth, and I'm here with Parent Voices from San Francisco. Chapter childcare helps my family by giving me childcare care service so my mom could go to work. Without child care, I would not be a successful student.
- Lourdes Alarcon
Person
Good afternoon. Thank you very much for supporting the early care and education. I'm an educator, but I'm also a parent. And we're here to please, ask you to keep funding the childcare services because that, ensures the healthy grow of our communities. Thank you very much for your attention.
- Eder -
Person
My name is Eder, and I am and I am here with Parent Voices San Francisco chapter. Child care helps my family by drawing me a solid education in my early years. Without childcare, I would not be able to be a successful student.
- Quinn Chung
Person
Good afternoon, care and members. My name is Quinn Chung. I'm a parent leader with Parent Voices California. I align my comments with the ECA Coalition. I don't have child care.
- Quinn Chung
Person
I'm currently on the wait list for the family, friends, and neighbor care, and I've been told that it's a long wait list. And I'm I'm a registered nurse. So, you know, without childcare, I'm forced to work night shift from 11:00 at night to 07:30 in the morning. I got off work this morning. I went to a meeting.
- Quinn Chung
Person
I'm also on the childcare planning advisory council, so I went to that meeting and then this hearing. So I didn't get any sleep at all. Working night shift has taken a toll on my health my my sleep and my health, but I have no other choice. You know? That's the only way that I can work while my daughters sleep at home with her dad.
- Quinn Chung
Person
So I'm here today to ask you to not balance the budget on the backs of our children and families. Please find progressive revenue solution that will fund the promised 77,000 childcare slots and ensure providers that pay the true cost of care. Thank you.
- Elia Fernandez
Person
Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Elia Fernandez, and I'm with Terra Moises in San Francisco. And aligned with my position with the ECE con coalition, childcare is very important to my family. I have six grandkids, and my daughters are not on the waiting list.
- Elia Fernandez
Person
I'm sorry. They're on the waiting list without childcare. Our kids won't succeed, but parents can't can't work. Please please support or ask. Fund all of the childcare.
- Elia Fernandez
Person
77,000 childcare slots, and also pay providers actual what they they deserve. And, also, can you find a solution for by taxing billionaires? Thank you so much.
- Alessandra Church
Person
Hello, chair and members. My name is Alessandra Church, and I am here with Parent Voices California chapter. And we align our comments with the ECE Coalition. Child care helps my family by giving a safe space to learn and educate myself while my mom's at work.
- Alessandra Church
Person
Without childcare, it would it would be hard because while my mom's at work, I would have to go I would have to be home or even go with her and also miss the chance to learn, which it which is a very important part of your life.
- Alessandra Church
Person
This is why we are asking for you to find progressive re venue options that fund the promised 77,000 slots and pay providers the true cost of care.
- Rachel Church
Person
My name is Rachel Church. I take credit for that miracle. I represent San Francisco chapter, specifically the working class of the Mission District. Childcare helps my family by providing a safe learning environment for Alessandra, where they can feed her because that's expensive, so she gets that there too. Without childcare, I would find it harder to purchase the meals that they purchased there.
- Rachel Church
Person
It's expensive. I couldn't go to work. I mean, kids have kid energy. I can't have her standing behind me while I'm working, you know, being a kid when I can't give her the attention she needs. This is why we were asking you to find progressive revenue options that fund the promised 77,000 slots and pay the providers the true cost of care.
- Maria Lustore
Person
Thank you. First of all, I would like to thank everybody on the line who let us cut in their line. My name is Maria Lustore, and I'm one of the organizers of Parent Voices. And you probably heard my story before. Before I got child care, Aye, had to send my children back home to the grandparents, but they got extreme separation anxiety.
- Maria Lustore
Person
So I had to bring them back when I found out that I was actually qualified for TANF childcare. But not everybody go through TANF door. And even in San Francisco, we still have about 900 children who are qualified for childcare but cannot get it. So we really need to fund the child care expansion as promised, and we also need to find those rent, revenue solutions. Five tech corporations, those big billionaires, get 51,000,000,000 from the big, beautiful bill.
- Maria Lustore
Person
We need to recapture that. We need that's how we can solve this problem. California
- Maria Lustore
Person
the fourth largest economy in the world. Those big billionaires got a lot of money from that big, beautiful bill. There's no reason why they can get more from California. So please support all the revenue solutions that will help us solve this funding gap. Thank you.
- Stephanie Jimenez
Person
It is. Good afternoon. Stephanie Jimenez on behalf of Children's Paradise Preschool and Infant Centers. We align our comments with Every Child California. Yet we continue to express our concerns in the governor's budget, which failed to increase slots in the state preschool program.
- Stephanie Jimenez
Person
Restricting the expansion of child care center capacities fairly limits children's access to critical early learning experiences, depriving them of essential opportunities to build foundational skills, vital for their education, and early development. Early childhood care is a cornerstone of healthy childhood development and family stability. The robust the robust state investment in early childhood educator support and career pathways is critical. Without it, we risk undermining the very work the very workforce that shapes the future of child care learning and development.
- Stephanie Jimenez
Person
Finally, we need rate reform and for the state to begin covering the true cost of early childcare and education now.
- Stephanie Jimenez
Person
For these reasons, we respectfully urge the legislature to continue investing in the future of childcare and the early childhood education workforce. Thank you.
- Pamela Gibbs
Person
Thank you. And good afternoon, mister chair and members, committee. Pamela Gibbs representing the Los Angeles County Office of Education, and I'll be brief. We're urging continued investment in the UPK programs for the county coordinators, also for the early education professional development training grant. For LACOE, we know there is a need because our LEAs have shared with us.
- Pamela Gibbs
Person
They need our continued support as they take on the mixed delivery system, which is still fairly new to them. So we urge your continued support. Thank you.
- Leticia Garcia
Person
Yes. Leticia Garcia with the Riverside County Superintendent Schools. We strongly support the governor's proposal for the 40,000,000 in one time funds to administer the reading difficulty screeners. And we also support the the governor's statutory language as to when to screen. This proposal simply ensures that instruction comes first, which leads to more accurate identification and targeted supports.
- Leticia Garcia
Person
It also still allows districts to, offer other assessments to establish that baseline and support the, the students with more universal support. It aligns to what the districts are already doing, so this is not a disruption. We see it as a clarity. This is a common sense approach to make sure that we're getting the right kids, the right help at the right time. My comments expanded from the conversation today.
- Leticia Garcia
Person
We also want to echo the the need for continued funding for the UPK coordinators as well as the EET TDG. We are, working, with 21 of our 23 school districts to, to support the workforce development for, TK. And also on the administrative credentials, two years ago, our, team, saw a need to integrate the early education into the admin credential, and we have been doing that. Most of our candidates do not come with an early ed background.
- Leticia Garcia
Person
So I just wanted to share that because it was something that was noted earlier as lacking. Thank you.
- Marshall Tuck
Person
Hello. Marshall Tuck from Ed Voice. Ed Voice and our partners in the California Literacy Coalition strongly encourage you to support the $40,000,000 to fund universal screening for reading difficulties. California took a big step forward on literacy by passing that policy, and now we need to deliver on its promise to lift up reading outcomes, and that comes down to implementation. So the $40,000,000 is huge to get more training for teachers, more for support for students on learning to read.
- Marshall Tuck
Person
We also strongly urge you to reject the language that requires districts to not screen early in the year. So the prohibition against screening before day 91 of kindergarten and day 46 of first and second grade, we think is a real problem for kids because it could delay the time that that struggling readers get that desperate intervention that they need to catch up. We think it's also challenging for districts.
- Marshall Tuck
Person
Over half the districts in the state have chosen state adopted screening tools that recommend early screening, and a lot of them are rolling out right now. And so to go back just within one year and change requirements is a challenge for districts.
- Marshall Tuck
Person
And then lastly, we always encourage to look at the national lens. There are 43 states in the country that have passed universal screening for reading difficulties. None of those states have a restriction in first or second grade for when districts can actually screen, and only three states have a restriction in kindergarten. We strongly urge you to reject that language. We use it in the best interest of California kids.
- Jasmine Vai
Person
Good evening. Jasmine Vai on behalf of the Low Income Investment Fund. The Low Income Investment Fund aligns itself with the ECE coalition priorities and the coalition's commitment to improving the early care and education system as a whole. We know that families rely on a mixed delivery system to meet their needs, which requires ensuring access to both family childcare and center based care. It's critical that these options operate in high quality, safe facilities with well compensated and talented teachers.
- Jasmine Vai
Person
The Low Income Investment Fund has had the privilege to steward the child care and development infrastructure grant program and has seen firsthand how providers in both centers and family child care homes across the state benefit from funding to improve the quality and safety of their spaces. While 3,800 providers were served, nearly 7,000 applied for funding, indicating a continued need for infrastructure investments in the ECE field.
- Jasmine Vai
Person
This need is even more severe for childcare providers impacted by wildfires and the families that lost a community of hubs during times of crisis. This makes the 11,500,000.0 included in the budget to support providers impacted by wildfires an important step towards recovery and critical to getting the dollars out to providers as quickly as possible. Thank you for your time this evening.
- David Krieger
Person
Good afternoon, mister chair. David Krieger here for Ignite Reading today. Wanna comment, briefly on item number four related to, the statutory language proposed to delay screener timing. We really believe that that language is a little bit misguided specifically in the context of the first grade year. That is a really vital year for kids.
- David Krieger
Person
We know that that's when kids really have to learn to read by the end of the first grade. If they don't, they begin to fall behind. It becomes more expensive and more difficult to intervene in later years. The way that these interventions work best is when they are happening as close to in time as possible so that those interventions align with tier one instruction, the regular instruction that's happening to the full classroom.
- David Krieger
Person
And, so by delaying that, we know that those, interventions are are likely to not happen until later in the year.
- David Krieger
Person
The state has adopted multiple screeners that school districts can choose from. The we would really encourage to rely on the guidance of those individual instruments. Otherwise, kids potentially risk losing out on the opportunity for those tier two interventions that help kids get caught up. Thank you.
- Barbara Nemko
Person
Hi. Doctor Barbara Nemko. I was the Napa County superintendent of schools for the last twenty eight years. That was my third career. I started as an elementary school teacher in New York.
- Barbara Nemko
Person
I won't tell you how many decades ago, and I taught reading second grade and fourth grade. When a child comes to school and starts learning to read, they need to have certain foundational skills. If they don't have those skills, they start to fall behind immediately. They don't learn to read. They quickly conclude that they are dumb and they hate school, and it's very hard to overcome that.
- Barbara Nemko
Person
Putting the screener till later in the year will delay the opportunity to provide those foundational skills for kids who don't have them. The idea that this is somehow mixed up with, special education and that they won't get reclassified, that's the last thing we want. We're trying to keep them out of special education. We want kids to learn early on that they are capable learners, and this early screening is the best way of ensuring that that happens.
- Barbara Nemko
Person
Thank you so much for supporting the $40,000,000, but, please, the bill SB 114 was fine the way it was.
- Barbara Nemko
Person
Do not amend it to push back the screening till later in the year in the year. It will eviscerate the whole purpose of the bill. Thank you for supporting our little kids. We've all heard about the school to prison pipeline. It's time to end it, and you can help end it here.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So I think this is it. Right? Yes. This is it. Now this is the catch.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
This is the heat. I no matter what, I have to leave in fifteen minutes. Now I can always recess and come back when I need to come back, or we can we can have some discipline, and we can get through all of you. Got
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So only say what you need to say. Most likely, you've so it's already been said, and most likely, I already support it. Okay? Okay. So let's just get it done.
- Deborah Zavala
Person
Deborah Baltiza Saval on behalf of the California Suburban School Districts Association. In regards to TK, take up rates remain uneven. This raises a key question. Do families really know that TK is free and available? For that reason, we encourage stronger statewide outreach that's clear, culturally, and linguistically appropriate message to our families so that they understand that there's these programs available.
- Deborah Zavala
Person
Districts remain committed, but continue to face real constraints as they implement TK, including facility limitations and additional staffing demands. So creating developmentally appropriate classrooms requires time and sustained resources. We urge that TK Shorter Day can create gaps for working families we heard earlier today. While provides important options, access varies, and not all families qualify. We encourage the state to use data and better understanding to address these gaps.
- Deborah Zavala
Person
Finally, the development's appropriate TK curriculum, the intent is positive, but we do need new requirements. With these new requirements, we must these must be paired with funding, professional development, and realistic timelines for our districts. We respectfully urge the committee to focus on awareness, access, and adequate support for successful implementation. Thank you.
- John Potente
Person
My name is John Luca Potente, and and I'm I'm here on the behalf of Decoding Dyslexia California. We urge you to preserve the $40,000,000 investment in educate educator training for reading difficulties screening and recommend rejecting the proposed statutory restrictions on screening administration time timelines. I am 17 years old and I have dyslexia. My parents and many others from across the state fought to pass the screening law so that kids like me would not have to fall years behind before getting, the help they need.
- John Potente
Person
If my reading difficulty had been identified in kindergarten and intervention started then, I would have been spared years of failure.
- John Potente
Person
And I would have I would not have needed special education services. This would not only have served my own sense of self worth, but would have served my school district thousands of dollars. The proposed budget language significantly shortens the window for intervention. It is counter it is counter to the intent of the bill that decoding dyslexia fought for years to pass. Thank you.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Good job. At first, I thought you were, like, 14, and you were gonna say I'm I I'm a parent. I was like, oh, lord. This is a whole another hearing we gotta have.
- Jeannette Carpenter
Person
Well, that's hard to follow. Good afternoon, doctor Jackson. My name is Jeanette Carpenter. I'm here on behalf of Child Action. We are the childcare subsidy program and resource and referral agency.
- Jeannette Carpenter
Person
We serve 20,000 children, 10,000 families, and 4,500 providers. We just wanted to bring to light that currently we have over 5,000 families on our childcare eligibility list that are waiting for care. When families have access to affordable high quality child care, our whole community benefits. We're here to work collaboratively on a mixed delivery system to strengthen our workforce, drive economic growth, and build a stronger future. For everyone, thank you so much for having this hearing, and we look forward to working with you this session.
- Candida Dupaidois
Person
Hello, Dr. Jackson. My name is Candida DuPaidois. I work at the California Child Care Resource Referral Network, and I've worked in childcare resource referral agencies for over twenty five years. And today, I wanna talk a little bit about some some cuts that can come to the quality dollars that we were talking about on the panel that we thank CDSS for bringing that up and sharing that as well.
- Candida Dupaidois
Person
So what I wanna talk about is that R&R's are not fully funded and we've haven't been fully funded and we've been around for over forty five years.
- Candida Dupaidois
Person
But I wanna share about our existing infrastructure that has been, providing childcare options to families and how we can be a part of that infrastructure by better informing families with options as we can get the list from CDE for t k and the LOP programs. And so we can have a true our database can be more, helpful for families to find options for childcare. We can do this and we can better serve our families this way.
- Candida Dupaidois
Person
But thank you so much, and I'm just here to no cuts to our quality dollars in R&R. Thank you.
- Juliet Terry
Person
Good afternoon, chair Jackson. Juliet Terry with Child Care Resource Center. Child Care Resource Center serves Northern Los Angeles and San Bernardino Counties. We currently and still have 30,000 children on our wait list and have been unable to enroll any children for about a year because of lack of funding for slots. The need is vast.
- Juliet Terry
Person
We are a proud member of the ECE coalition and stand in solidarity solidarity with their budget as mentioned earlier. On the note of universal childcare, we have been putting a lot of thought into this as I'm sure you have. I just wanna encourage, the committee and members of the legislature to, as we work towards that system, provide, a lot of attention to our existing state and federal infrastructures already in place in California as we begin to build upon these historic investments and maximize every dollar contributed.
- Juliet Terry
Person
This includes moving to a cost of care reimbursement system, adequate funding for slots, and building a more robust paid family leave and tax credit options for families. Thank you for your time and commitment on these issues, and we look forward to stabilizing the system together.
- Karina Laigo
Person
Good evening, chair Jackson. Karina Lago with the Child Care Law Center. We want to thank that this committee and the legislature for the leadership in addressing the impacts of HR 1 and particularly to the comments you made during the hearing today, chairperson Jackson, related to that, the families are the experts in their lives, and we should not be forcing them into things that the system currently has, but rather listening to them to make sure the system works for them.
- Karina Laigo
Person
And it isn't a system, but a way for them to grow and thrive. And the way that we do that is to ensure no families lose their publicly funded childcare, make sure that families get paid, that providers get paid to reflect the work that they do that's tireless and for the children that they love and care for.
- Karina Laigo
Person
And to make sure that when we're talking about a publicly funded system, we're talking about the true McDelivery, which is across multiple settings and reflects the needs of the families, not just what funding is currently allocated to. So we need to make sure that providers stay open and that that families are able to continue to have true choice in where they put their children.
- Karina Laigo
Person
It's unacceptable when money goes back for programs when there's opportunity and wait list as the other providers or advocates said for their children. You've heard from parent voices. You've heard from the providers.
- Karina Laigo
Person
They need sustained investment now and continued investment that reflects their needs and not what's available in the system. Thank you so much.
- Natalie Shin
Person
Natalie Shin here on behalf of Californians Together. We are in strong support of the proposed funding for professional development on reading difficulty screeners and maintaining a clear instructional window before screeners are administered. The governor's proposal is an alignment with research from UC San Francisco's Center for Dyslexia that found the most accurate screeners were administered after ninety days of instruction for kindergarteners and after forty five days for first and second graders.
- Natalie Shin
Person
When screeners are administered before that, about half of students were misidentified before they actually had a chance to receive any sufficient instruction. This is especially important for English learners who need sufficient time to receive systemic exposure to English language development and foundational literacy instruction before their skills can be accurately assessed.
- Natalie Shin
Person
Otherwise, they are at risk of being misidentified and misdirected towards the wrong pathway of support that does not address the root need for further language development. Early support matters, but the timing must ensure accuracy and equitable identification. Thank you.
- Michelle Warshaw
Person
Michelle Warshaw, California Teachers Association. Strong support of UTK. Opposed the $5,600,000,000 underfunding of Prop 98 minimum guarantee. Ditto for what CalTalk said about the screener. Wanna highlight that data shows administering the screener too early is associated with higher at risk identification rates, but don't reflect true reading difficulty, just that there hasn't been enough instruction yet.
- Raquel Morales Urbina
Person
Good afternoon. Raquel Morales with Ed Trust West. Auntie Kaye, as panelists panelists mentioned, families of color continue to raise issues around lack of access to full day care, limited cultural and linguistic environments, and little awareness of this grade level. So we strongly support the recommendations you heard today on this matter. Additionally, we support TBL that establishes a formal definition for developmentally appropriate TK curriculum.
- Raquel Morales Urbina
Person
However, we strongly recommend that the legislature reinforces that culturally and linguistically affirming early learning experiences are necessary to the success of
- Raquel Morales Urbina
Person
diverse young learners by diverse young learners by including specific language on this. Lastly, we would like to uplift AB 2092 by similar member Bonta. If enacted, this would give DSS the authority to move forward, our state ESIDs. This would turn fragmented early childhood data into a streamlined system that supports children's school readiness, program quality, and improvement in in evaluation, and the workforce professional growth. Thank you.
- Andrew Avila
Person
I'll try to be quick. Good afternoon, chair. My name is Andrew Avila of Early Age California. Thank you for this necessary discussion on the state of ECE. With the full rollout of TK, we believe that's a historic milestone that should be celebrated.
- Andrew Avila
Person
And we find ourselves in a time where our mixed delivery system is under constant attacks with the Federal Government and under state budget uncertainty. And this is why we believe it's necessary to safeguard all UBK options, ensure that all families can access, and they're aware of all of their options, and eligibility so they can make the most informed choices available. Additionally, we really appreciate the comments made today about expanding family child care home education networks known as FETCHENs.
- Andrew Avila
Person
For TK, we support the proposed language to, ensure that TK programs are, designed in a way that's developmentally appropriate for the curriculum, making it clear to our LEAs that they have to serve younger children that meets their developmental needs. If it's okay with sergeants, I do have a a document about progress and opportunities for TK, if I can share that.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
That that is fine. Just don't come closer. You'll be tackled. Got it.
- Andrew Avila
Person
And then, lastly, we do wanna, point out that Thank you. There's still a lot of work to be done for dual language learners. It's a priority within the master plan early learning and care, and we see that the demand is high. The population is high, so we really need to bolster and uplift the workforce. And then lastly, we're a member of the ECE coalition.
- Jonathan Munoz
Person
Hello, Dr. Jackson. Jonathan Munoz on behalf of First Life Los Angeles. Also wanna align our comments with the EC Coalition. But just wanna highlight a statistic for LA County specifically on access to care. Based on 2024 data, we had forty one percent of children in the county eligible for care, but only eighteen percent were enrolled.
- Jonathan Munoz
Person
And so just further adding to the point of needing to invest and and continue to keep the commitments from previous budget, in child care. Thank you, sir.
- Kordell Hampton
Person
Good afternoon, Chair. Cotto Hampton with the Association of California School Administrators. ACTSA supports the proposed $40,000,000 for a pursuit of literacy screeners. It recommends making this ongoing as its requirements ongoing. ACTSA also supports the governor's proposal to clarify when literacy screeners should occur. We believe the clarification will ensure students receive an appropriate period of instruction prior to assessment, helping to avoid over identification.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Second year? Yes. Okay. So I think my first time seeing you. Where you been?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
So, Dr. Jackson, right now, it is 04:59. I'm on a panel with you this weekend for NASW lobby days. Let's get you out of here now, and maybe we can talk this weekend.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
You have your MSW, whatever you want. Whatever you want. That's just how I roll. Okay. I wanna thank everyone for participating.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Thank you, of course, the committee staff for, everything that they continue to do. Thank you for the members. As always, thank you to my colleague, assembly member David Alvarez, for continuing to support these joint hearings on such an important issue. Thank you to the sergeants. Thank you to administration, CDE, LAO, Department of Finance, shout out to my mom, all that good stuff.
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