Senate Standing Committee on Education
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
The Senate Education Committee will come to order in thirty seconds. Good morning. Welcome to the Senate Education Committee hearing. There are 31 bills on today's agenda. AB 1547, is a busy agenda today has been pulled from today's agenda at the request of the author.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
There are 12 bills on consent. Those bills are item number 11 AB 1763 item number 14 AB 1871 Item number 15, AB 2176. Item number 17, AB 2436. Item number 19, AB 194. Item number 20, AB 2524. Item number 23, AB 2,003. Item number 25, AB 2467. Item number 27, AB 2241. Item number 28, AB 2251. Item number 29, AB 2324.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
And item number 31, AB 2693. Witnesses are asked to limit their testimony to two minutes to ensure the committee is able to complete today's agenda in a timely fashion. Seeing as we do not have a quorum, we'll begin as a subcommittee with the first bill, and I see our first author, Assemblymember, Aguiar Curry, here, to present AB 65. Assemblywoman, you may begin whenever you're ready.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Good morning, Senator and and committee. I just wanna thank you for what I heard that many committee bills you have today. I I really understand. So I'll make this quick. Good morning.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Thank you, madam chair and members. AB 65 would grant grant public school employees up to fourteen weeks of leave with full benefits for pregnancies and pregnancy related health issues. Today, our educators can't earn paid pregnancy leave. If teachers need time to recover from pregnancy, they must first use all of their accrued sick leave if they have that to begin with. After that, they receive differential pay.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
That's a fancy way of saying a teacher must pay half of their salary to cover a substitute. Too often, educators are told they simply can just schedule their pregnancies around the school calendar or accept going without the pay. As we work to ensure Californians can care for their families, we cannot allow the very people who care for our children to bear the burden. A current system also puts pregnant educators at a financial disadvantage.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Data from the CalSTRS shows women will receive almost a $100,000 less in retirement benefits than their male counterparts.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
In a profession where seventy percent are women, that is shocking and it is unacceptable. At the same time, California is struggling to recruit and retain educators. According to the California Department of Education, there were more than 10,000 teacher vacancies statewide at the end of twenty twenty two. Modernizing these outdated policies is an important step towards improving recruitment and retention as we invest in our students and their future. This bill corrects an outdated system and ensures educators are supported through pregnancy without penalty.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Speaking in support today is Adara Clark Gunn from the California School Employees Association, and Britney Ward with the California Teachers Association, and Bryant Maramantes, who is available to answer any technical questions.
- Britney Ward
Person
Good morning, Chair Perez and committee members. My name is Britney Ward, an elementary school teacher and president of Twin Rivers United Educators, speaking for the California Teachers Association as a cosponsor of AB65. I have seen far too many exceptional educators leave the profession due to the rising cost of health care and the financial challenges of starting a family. Assembly Bill 65 is a transformational solution to the persistent teacher shortage we face year after year. No educator should have to plan their pregnancy around the academic calendar.
- Britney Ward
Person
Forcing teachers to exhaust their accumulated sick leave to welcome a child is stressful and inequitable. Sick leave should be reserved for illness and recovery. When unused, it directly contributes to retirement benefits through CalSTRS. Because of this, the current system creates a massive financial disparity. Educators who must drain their sick leave lose vital retirement credit, disproportionately impacting mothers and widening the gap between female educators and their male counterparts.
- Britney Ward
Person
As a union president, I regularly receive distressed calls from members. They face the agonizing choice of prioritizing their newborn's care or prematurely returning to the classroom just to survive financially. One of our members experienced a serious pregnancy related complication. After exhausting her FMLA leave, the district forced her to use her baby bonding leave before her child was even born. Consequently, she had no bonding leave left when the baby arrived and was forced into an unpaid leave of absence.
- Unidentified Speaker 002
Paid disability and parental leave should be a standard workplace benefit. If we are serious about recruiting and retaining high quality teachers, we must support them in caring for their own families. For these reasons, I respectfully urge your aye vote on Assembly Bill 65. Thank you.
- Adara Gunn
Person
Good morning, madam chair and members of the committee. My name is Adara Clark Gunn, and I'm the data and compliance technician for San Juan Unified School District Special Education Department and president of CSEA chapter one twenty seven. I've been a part of the San Juan family for over seventeen years, a K-twelve student turned employee. I'm here representing the California School Employees Association speaking in favor of AB 65.
- Adara Gunn
Person
Personally, I received a layoff notice in the spring of twenty twenty one while seven months pregnant with my first kiddo after a decade of employment with my school district.
- Adara Gunn
Person
I immediately began investigating my rights during this process and how I could best cushion the landing for myself and my yet to be family. Now, fortunately, this was during the pandemic, and I could do Zoom interviews from the waist up and hide my belly like a boss. I was unsure what job protection and or leave what I would be afforded with my new employer, though.
- Adara Gunn
Person
Would I need to call out sick to give birth to my daughter and then immediately send her off to childcare so that I could return to work? What if something went wrong during birth?
- Adara Gunn
Person
What if she got COVID at childcare? Or what if I brought COVID home to her? Fortunately, my layoff was rescinded. And I was able to access my ten plus years of sick leave to receive a full paycheck while I was recovering from six for six short weeks. Cut to January 2023 when I gave birth to my son.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
My late balances had not yet recovered after my first pregnancy and would only
- Adara Gunn
Person
be able to provide me with a full paycheck for two of my eight weeks of leave. I thought I had done my due diligence and had enrolled in disability insurance through our provider. However, when I submitted my claim, my pregnancy was deemed a preexisting condition due to the timing of my enrollment in the supplemental insurance. After being denied and receiving my first paycheck with two weeks of half pay, I made the difficult decision to go back to work early.
- Adara Gunn
Person
So I got a note from my doctor releasing me back to work, where fortunately, my boss allowed me to work a hybrid schedule for a month or so between president's week and spring break. By offering fourteen weeks of fully paid leave, AB 65 ensures families do not face the impossible choice between caring for a newborn and financial security.
- Adara Gunn
Person
This bill would provide public school certificated and classified employees with up to fourteen weeks of leave with full pay when an employee is pregnant or experiences pregnancy related health issues, such as miscarriage, internal bleeding, or an infection. So for these reasons and many more, we respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Great. Thank you, for your presentation. We'll now hear from any me too's in support in the audience. Please use the mic at the railing.
- Jason Henderson
Person
Good morning. Jason Henderson on behalf of the Faculty Association for California Community Colleges, proud cosponsor requesting your aye vote. Thank you.
- Navne Perrier
Person
Good morning. Navne Perrier on behalf of the California School Employees Association. We're proud cosponsors.
- Connor Gusman
Person
Good morning, madam chair, members. Connor Gustman on behalf of Teamsters California and the Amalgamated Transit Union and proud support. Thank you.
- Tristan Brown
Person
Good morning, madam chair and members. Tristan Brown with CFT, Union of Educators and Classified Professionals here in Strongsport.
- Douglas Knapp
Person
Good morning, Board Members. Douglas Knapp, first grade teacher, proud support.
- Tessa Martinez
Person
Good morning. Sixth grade science teacher, Tessa Hevelin Martinez, happy to support.
- Folsom Cordova
Person
Good morning. Folsom Cordova, Unified School District, fourth grade teacher, happily to support.
- Russell Manning
Person
Russell Manning, California State Treasurer Fiona Ma, proud cosponsor of the bill.
- Carlos Rojas
Person
Good morning. Carlos Rojas representing the Kern County Superintendent of Schools Office. We currently have a support if amand position on the bill. AB 65 doesn't identify a funding source. We wanna highlight the importance of a funding source.
- Carlos Rojas
Person
And in light of the governor's provision, pro proposal in May revision to provide funding through the LCFF, we wanna also highlight that lots of programs are staffing people who are not funded through the LCFF. So to ensure equitable access to this program, call for money and get it as well.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
This is Me Too's only, and I just wanna remind everybody of that. If you could just do name, organization, position on the bill. We have 31 bills today. Thank you.
- Dorothy Johnson
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair, members. Dorothy Johnson, the Association of California School Administrators previously posed, now support if amended, aligning with Mr. Rojas' comments. Thank you.
- Michelle Du
Person
Good morning. Michelle Du on behalf of California Association of School Business Officials, also support if amended. Thank you.
- Claire Sullivan
Person
Claire Sullivan on behalf of the City of Glendale in support. Thank you.
- Kylie Lindeli
Person
Kylie Lindeli, Asian Americans Advancing Justice Southern California in support.
- Peter Elliott
Person
Peter Elliott California State Teachers Retirement System in support.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Anybody else? Great. Seeing nobody else rising we will turn it now to witnesses in opposition. Are there any witnesses in opposition here to speak? Seeing no one rising, we'll turn it back to the committee.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Do the committee members oh, and we also have a quorum. So, secretary, if you could call the roll so we could establish quorum.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you. And the secretary notes a quorum has been established. Do we have any comments or questions for the author on this bill? Senator Cho Bogue.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
you. So first of all, I am in in support of the paid leave. I'm a huge advocate of families and trying to do what we can to in order to support our family structures in our communities. And we have a really harsh system in our society that is just incredibly hard on families overall.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And quite frankly, the sad part is and I've stated this over and over again in any of my town halls that I've held in my in my district as well in when I've had the opportunity in committee.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And that's the fact that you know if many parents could choose if finances were not an obstacle, they would rather stay home during those first early years of their children's lives if finances were not an obstacle. I know that for a fact. And unfortunately we've made it incredibly difficult in in in the state and the country in general to to be able to do that and many people that actually have it's a privilege.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
It's a privilege to be able to stay home and be with their children during those first early years. So I've been supportive of policies that that promote our family structure.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Having said that, I do have some concerns the way that it's structured right now and I and we and I actually commented on this on our sub one committee with which had to do with the way that it is currently funded and structured. It doesn't provide for some of our school districts that would not be qualified to receive some of this funding. Has there been any conversations about how to address the school districts that are not included in this type of funding for family leave?
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
So thank you for the question. Obviously, we're looking for some trailer, language that's still gonna come in so that we can, adjust to questions that have come up since we've got this bill out there. The bill ensures that the will as the legislature will fully take the time to consider the policy through the legislative process. So we're not done. As you know, we did get some funding through the budget, but we also know we don't know what's gonna happen between now and then.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
This is just to kind of put the glue around that and to make sure we can move forward with it. So I'm sure we'll be working with other, districts as well. You know, the hardest part is, you know, some districts don't pay for, pregnancy leave disability and the Federal Family and Medical Leave Act, and that's also unpaid. So, many districts rely on and the use of the FMLA.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
So the federal policy that provides twelve weeks of job protected leave for both personal health and family caregiving events, but does not fix the disparities in pay and retirement benefits.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
So we're working through that, and I'm hoping we'll have an answer before we're completely done here. The fact of the matter is is since '19 since 2020, I believe it was, we worked with the governor to make sure we could get family pay out there and for fourteen weeks, but he said, nope, we need to do a report. We came up with a report and based upon the report is how we got to the, to the, paid pregnancy leave dollar amounts.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So do you have a dollar amount for this for this program right now? Because it was my understanding that we didn't have a specific amount because you how how how do you estimate an amount? Yeah. I'm sorry?
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
I'm I'm looking for let me see where my my there he is.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
I'll scooch. Hello. Seth Bramble here for the California Teachers Association. Regarding your question, there was a lot, of back and forth with the governor's office. There's still conversations occurring about, like, what utilization looks like in different districts.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
It's gonna look different, depending on how many people decide to take pregnancy leave. We saw, like like, I think the assumptions that they've been using in terms of calculation, like, one to 3% of a school district might be using, you know, in terms of the certificated employees, paid pregnancy leave at some point during the course of their careers. And so based on a lot of those calculations, the initial estimate was $220,000,000, statewide.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
10 and 20,000,000? Okay. So going back to my previous and maybe you have a a a a a little deeper understanding. What about the school districts that don't queer currently qualify for the paid leave, the fourteen weeks?
- Ivy Brittain
Person
Yeah. So again, as as the author noted, just wanna say thanks again for championing this for I know it's been a a four year Four years. Really appreciate your leadership. There are still kind of ongoing conversations happening surrounding the mechanism to ensure that there's adequate funding to fulfill the program.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
I think some of the conversations currently are that school districts would receive an augmented COLA and that that augmented COLA would be far more than that $220,000,000 I was talking about, say why, but that it would be used to cover paid pregnancy leave that the cost that school districts incur.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
But again, some of those conversations are still ongoing and in flux.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
The logistics is it seem to be a little bit on the on the confused side. I'm still concerned about this there's certain school districts that do not qualify currently under this this language. It's my understanding.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
I'm gonna lay off the bill today, because, I want to ensure that we have language that brings every single if you're going to implement this program and be able to do this program, every single school district should be able to qualify and receive the funding necessary to be able to do that. It'd be incredibly unfair that we we we have certain school districts that receive it and others that do not.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
That is my biggest biggest concern is that we have the right language to ensure that you're gonna implement this, make sure that is across the board. One of the things that I do wanna mention, it's gonna go through, the go through, the the bill is gonna it's gonna go through with with no problems which is why I feel it's imperatively important for me to express these concerns for those school districts that right now are not covered.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And that means teachers and and stuff for those particular schools. But I do wanna I wanna comment. I I did have a question also.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
How is this different? How did first of all, how did you come up with 14 leaves versus the traditional twelve week leave that we currently have?
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Through our expert testimony, working with doctors and pediatricians, obstetricians, and the outreach that we receive from our many committee hearings that we had on the bill. It's the fact is is that a doctor can say only twelve weeks. They can say ten weeks. It's the maximum of fourteen weeks. Got it.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
So it is up to the doctor to determine how long a person might be on leave. You just don't just because you're having on pregnancy leave doesn't mean you get fourteen weeks write out. They do have to have a medical note.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. Yeah. Alright. Perfect. And then, how does this differ than the current program that we currently have?
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Well, currently, people can go through what they do is they have, they have their sick leave. And if they've used all their sick leave, then they have to use their differential pay, and the differential pay means that half of their pay goes to their substitute, and they the, the teacher has to pay for the differential pay. So the substitute gets a portion of it and it comes out of the pocket of the the teacher itself.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. So that's that's the current system that we have. The way it can take up to twelve weeks. Is that the one where I I I know I had a question between the this program and the pregnancy leave that we have currently in place. So the basic difference is the number of weeks and then the the the pay structure.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
So the federal policy so the federal policy provides twelve weeks of job protected leave for both personal health and family caregiving events, but does not fix on a disparity in pay and retirement benefits. So you have FMLA, and then you're not you don't get any of that money goes towards your retirement. So what we found is that during the the study that was done through CDE is that they found that people were, not being able to use their, sick leave as part of the retirement monies.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
And so, technically, they can lose up to a $100,000 in the retirement benefits. How we came up with that as well is by we had two teachers come into our office.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
One was a man and a wife. They're married. The wife has been teaching longer than the husband. They went to go check out their STRS retirement, and they found out at that time, she had less retirement benefits than he did because she took off time while while she was pregnant and out of the office. So it's it's just disparity all the way around.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. The other question I had was, with the current program that we have right now for for forbearance to take off the twelve weeks, Is this in addition to those current twelve weeks or is this in lieu of that program? In lieu of?
- Ivy Brittain
Person
So so as the author was describing, teachers get like ten sick days a year. Right? So you you have to use those ten days before you have access to differential leave, and we've seen the huge disparities as was mentioned in, you know, the lifetime or retirement earnings that educators get based on whether they have been able to convert their sick leave to retirement, service credit. So that's the first thing, is using your ten sick days.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
And we're going to now, create a system where you don't have to use your sick leave for that.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
So if you get sick later, you'll have sick leave. Or if your child gets sick, you'll be able to take care of your child. So that's huge for our folks. Once you get through that, there's this period of differential pay that teachers have access to that, as as the member described, is, like, what you would normally get paid minus the cost of your substitute teacher. So this fourteen weeks first of all, there there isn't currently pregnancy leave for teachers.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
This is new. She's establishing it. So there's not you're saying how does it come on top of what they currently have? They don't currently have pregnancy leave. And so we're establishing paid pregnancy so that you don't have to burn through your sick leave and so you don't have that harm that occurs for you in retirement.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
So it it is, as you're directly asking, in addition to, but it's not it's not on top of a current benefit. It's establishing a new benefit that that educators currently don't have.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. So theoretically speaking theoretically speaking, you would have fourteen weeks right now in addition to twelve weeks of sick leave that could potentially be changed or reused if if the mother wanted to stay longer with with their baby, they could be added on to the current fourteen weeks plus the twelve weeks. If if theoretically speaking.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
Yeah. I'm not exactly sure when you're referring to twelve weeks what you're referring to, but teachers get ten sick days every year. So it is true that after you exhausted your paid pregnancy leave under this new provision, you could then choose to take sick leave if, for example, you know, in different districts, usually, you need a doctor's note after you take, like, two, three days. Yeah.
- Ivy Brittain
Person
So so if the doctor thinks you need to be out further than those fourteen weeks, you would be able to use sick leave.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. So let me let me rephrase it because I'm probably not expressing it correctly. Currently, when a teacher has a baby, they could potentially be with their baby for up to twelve weeks. I was under the impression that they could stay home for about up to twelve weeks. Am I mistaken in understanding that?
- Ivy Brittain
Person
Again, what the current system looks like for teachers is that you first use ten days of sick leave, and then you have access to differential pay, which as was mentioned is basically minus the cost of your sub, you're getting that.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And I and I and I get that. But up to but currently, teachers could potentially use the system that is in place up to twelve weeks. Is that correct?
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
So let me let me clarify that. So with the Family Medical Leave Act
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
He goes unpaid. They could potentially take off 12
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
Unpaid. If they wanted to in addition to this program. Right? But they couldn't use it Yeah. So they could use it they could use that after the fourteen paid weeks if needed.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
They don't get paid. Yeah. And as I said, for those parents that are able to afford to have one parent stay home, it's it's a luxury. It's a privilege in in this state, in this country to be able to do that. So I I get that.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
So the reason I'm asking also is because I'm also thinking of the potential, moving forward with legislation that has to do with our substitute teachers.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
Because if we're gonna have a system that's gonna be catering to our our teachers, be able to stay home with their babies, We have to ensure that there's consistency within and I just wanna make sure that we have clarity in this in this in the committee as we're having these conversations that logistically speaking, we also have to think about the the students because potentially, I I wanna make sure that we have fourteen weeks, potentially twelve weeks of unpaid, and that's a very long time for a student to be without a a consistent teacher.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
So as we're looking at bills moving on and we're and this is a whole cohort bills that we're looking at that are going to be addressing this particular issue. So we would need to have full conversations as to what that's gonna look like in the educational, context of classrooms and our students' ability to have consistency in that classroom.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
So, as we're working towards that end, we wanna ensure that when we're looking at the ability for classroom substitute teachers to be able to do that and get paid, that they also have the ability to stay in the classroom long enough to cover a teacher's family leave whether paid or unpaid but has that so I just wanna make sure that we have that planted in our hearts, in our minds as we move forward and we look to see one, that we have parity for all school districts in our state if we're gonna implement this.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
And number two, that the substitute teachers that are going to be taking over these classrooms have the ability to stay in those classrooms while these teachers are are out for maternity leave because it makes it easier for the teachers as well as for the substitute teachers and it's incredibly helpful for the students, to be able to have consistent, access to, one one substitute teacher during that time.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
So I just wanted to make those points on that end and I look forward to having further conversations on that end and ensure that, our system in California is conducive overall to the well-being of our teachers and our and our students and our and most importantly, our families as a whole. So with that, oh, I guess, we have a motion by Senator Cortese. Madam secretary oh. Oh.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
I apologize. No. That's absolutely Ma'am Rai Carey, would you like to close?
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
You know, this is an incredible bill that when you run into teachers, they're so excited because they wanna stay in the workforce. This is just one step of many. And as you brought up substitutes, there's other legislation that's running through. This is the first step that we have to get through. We have some budget money that's out there, to move us forward.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
There's going to be plenty more discussions, but the fact of the matter is is we need a workforce. You know, teachers teachers are going to more attractive jobs and we need to make sure that we can keep the vacancies down in the state of California. So, with that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote. This is a ongoing conversation we will have. The fact of the matter is we are losing a workforce and we need our teachers.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
The teachers are leaving left and right and we need to make sure we have the workforce to to support them. So with that, I respectfully ask for aye vote.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
Thank you, Member Yair Curry. Madam secretary, please call the roll.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
Okay. Motion is do passed to the Senate Labor, Public Employment and Retirement Committee. Senators Perez, Ochoa Bogue. Not voting. Cabaldon, Choi, Cortese.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
Alright. We have member Jackson. Is it Oh, there we go. File item number 2ab673. Welcome,
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I'll be quick. Thank you very much, Madam Chair and Committee Members. First, I wanna thank the committee and staff for their amendments, which I will be accepting today. This is AB 673, which establishes an unaccompanied youth support grant program.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
This program would provide assistance to 16 and 17 year old students experiencing homelessness and who are not in the physical custody of a parent or guardian as they continue their education. With me today is Eric Dunk on behalf of the Superintendent of Public Instruction to speak on the impact of this bill.
- Eric Dunk
Person
Good morning, Chair and Members. My name is Eric Dunk, and I'm a legislative representative at CDE testifying on behalf of State Superintendent Tony Thurmond, who is proudly sponsoring AB 673. California is facing a growing crisis of student homelessness.
- Eric Dunk
Person
In the 23-24 school year, LEA's reported 287,000 pupils experiencing homelessness, and of those, approximately 9,000 were unaccompanied youth. Unaccompanied youth are a particularly vulnerable population. They are homeless.
- Eric Dunk
Person
They are minors, and they are not accompanied by a parent or guardian. Exacerbating the problem, they do not have access to housing like minors in foster care, with only 130 beds statewide to provide temporary emergency shelter for unaccompanied minors.
- Eric Dunk
Person
Because of their unstable living situation, these students are more likely to be chronically absent, less likely to be engaged academically, and less likely to graduate. While McKinney-Vento requires schools to identify and enroll these students, only about 10% of school districts receive dedicated McKinney-Vento funding.
- Eric Dunk
Person
AB 673 closes that gap by establishing the unaccompanied youth support grant program, a five year pilot program that would fund eligible LEAs to connect unaccompanied youth ages 16 and 17 to housing navigation, basic needs, tutoring, employment readiness, and social services.
- Eric Dunk
Person
Funding flows through a weighted formula targeting LEAs with the greatest need, and the bill requires annual outcome reporting with a final evaluation to the legislature. In conclusion, this bill is a targeted, accountable approach to stabilizing vulnerable students' lives so they can focus on learning and graduating.
- Eric Dunk
Person
It is about connecting unaccompanied youth to services and strengthening community partnerships so these students can thrive academically. Thank you for your consideration, and we respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. We'll continue with any additional witnesses here in 2100 for AB 673. Please come to the microphone. State your name, your position, and the organization that you are representing.
- Maclean Rozansky
Person
Maclean Rozansky with the Alameda County Office of Education in support, and on behalf of the Alameda County Office of Education Youth Advisory Board, also in support. Thank you.
- Michael Henning
Person
Michael Henning, California Alliance of Child and Family Services, in support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you so much. Having no other witnesses in support, we'll continue with any lead opposition. Seeing none. Do we have any members of the public who would like to express their opposition to this bill?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Seeing none. We'll bring it back to the dais. Any comments, questions? We have a motion by Senator Cortese. I do have some comments and questions for you on this bill. Did you wanna say it? We have a motion. We'll take the motion, but... Okay. So everybody is...
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. We have... Our Members are all attending... We have multiple committee hearings going on right now. So it's no disrespect, no reflection on you or on our Members this morning. I do have some some comments and some questions along the line.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Because I know that through our LCFF formula, we have additional funding for students who are impoverished or low economic in the in the low economic demographic. We also have, and then my first question before I start with these particular funding systems that we currently have already.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
I was kinda curious, how are these unaccompanied minors not part of the foster system? How does that work? I didn't realize we could have students that were not within the system of the care of under whether it's a foster person or within the within the social services.
- Eric Dunk
Person
Yeah. So I'm not an expert on foster care, but what I do know is that they have to be foster care system by some kind of social services expert. A lot of these unaccompanied youth are the federal term sometimes you'll hear is runaway. So they're 16 and 17 year olds, and they just run away from home, and they were never connected to the foster care system to begin with.
- Eric Dunk
Person
And then since they're 16 and 17, they just try to make it on their own. They couch surf at a friend's house, and they never actually get plugged into the system, which is part of what the bill is trying to do is connect them to the right. So, like, that's one of the things it does is connect it to the social services provider that could direct them into foster care.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Do we need this particular bill to be able to connect them to the to the Department of Social Services? I thought that was automatic when we see a child that, a minor that is not under the purview of of the state already?
- Eric Dunk
Person
Yeah. Like, so what I mentioned in my talking points is one of the ways that LEAs can do that is to identify these students as unaccompanied and that they need to go into foster care, for example. And the funding for McKinney-Vento from the federal level is inconsistent.
- Eric Dunk
Person
And it's only, it's only provided to about 10% of LEAs right now. So the bill is trying to augment some of the things that McKinney-Vento would be trying to do as well, like connecting the students to the right services.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So it's not the automatic responsibility of the school official when they see a child that is unaccompanied to report them and basically get them the assistance that they have?
- Eric Dunk
Person
It is under McKinney-Vento. Yes. It is one of their responsibilities if they identify them to try and connect them to the right place. But we've seen that the LEAs are under resourced to do that.
- Eric Dunk
Person
Yeah. They have to they have to identify the student first and foremost. And a lot of times, the McKinney-Vento Act requires them to have a homeless liaison. So every LEA has a homeless liaison, but a lot of times, that's just one role that, for example, the vice principal or the principal would take up. And so they don't always have the resources to identify them and connect them to the right services in the community.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. So currently, it's my understanding that there are several programs in place to help this population or students who fall within these parameters. Of course, you mentioned the federal McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act, where all California, it says here, where all California school districts already receive federal funding and are required to identify and support homeless students.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
That's what I have here, that is accessible to them. It also states that every LEA is required to designate a homeless education liaison whose job is to identify homeless students and connect to services. It says here all required students.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And that's number two. Number three, the California funds for the HETAC, the Homeless Education and Technical Assistance Center, provides statewide training and assistance to support schools serving homeless youth. That is also accessible right now. Is that correct?
- Eric Dunk
Person
I'm not sure where the all came from because McKinney-Vento is a competitive grant that LEAs apply for, and it's my understanding that only 10% of them received the actual funding.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. Because it's available and it'll be important to note that because we're allocating another designation when we have three here. We also have, number three, the California funds the... I'm sorry. The HETAC, I just mentioned that, the Homeless Education Technical Assistance Center, which provides statewide training and assistance to support schools serving homeless youth in the 2025-2026 budget.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
HETAC received 500,000 per recipient out of 1.5 million pool. And number four, we have HIP, the Homeless Innovative Program Grants that are given to LEAs to improve education stability, access, and support serving homeless students. There was also a $9 million allocated with 450,000 per LEA that is currently available.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So we've, the state has done a pretty good job in trying to address these issue, this particular demographic quite a bit very generously. So I'm just kinda curious as to, you know, why we need an additional one we already have. And the reason I'm asking is the state is in budget constraints.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And so when we see, when I see any additional requirement for a new program, especially when I've seen similar demographics being already served with funding, I'm gonna ask the questions. What are we not doing in order to already use the programs that we currently have in place that are supposed to be actually taking care of these of these students already in place?
- Eric Dunk
Person
Yeah. Thanks for the questions, Madam Vice Chair. I think, so you mentioned homeless students. The definitions can get a little tricky because in McKinney-Vento it defines homeless students, but it also defines unaccompanied youth. So the bill particularly targets unaccompanied youth.
- Eric Dunk
Person
So, in theory, it's like a sub, it's a sub population of the larger homeless student population. And a lot of these times, these students are invisible to the system because they're 16, 17, like this bill mentions, and they're unaccompanied.
- Eric Dunk
Person
So they may not appear homeless necessarily because they've run away from home, let's say. And McKinney-Vento defines homelessness in a number of ways. Like, you could be couch surfing at a friend's house. You could be sleeping in your car.
- Eric Dunk
Person
You could be staying in a motel. So they may, so homeless we have this idea of what homelessness looks like, but not with unaccompanied youth who may be more invisible to the system. So the idea is to try to help LEAs identify that particular subpopulation.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So under the current system, what you're stating is that these unaccompanied kids do not qualify for these particular programs?
- Eric Dunk
Person
No. It's not that they don't qualify. It's that they're a different type of subpopulation. So homeless is the broader overarching term, and then unaccompanied is a subpopulation of homelessness. And it and then McKinney-Vento, it's specifically defined as not in the presence of a parent or guardian.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. I won't be able to support the bill today because I believe I just based on conversations that I've had and these are just the four that were given to me as identifying additional funding on there. I think I think we already have programs and funding that can help these students. And we even have support system for our school districts to be able to have access and guide them through that the process of being able to get money.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So literally, we have covered every single single aspect of trying to get the funding forward as well as ensuring that they are being assisted with funding itself. So I have a hard time supporting an additional program right now especially in light of where we are as a state financially, and I will not be able to support the bill today on that.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And if I didn't see this particular, and I think we can be very, we can be technical in the language that we're using. But I think those students could qualify and do fall within those parameters both on the on the LCFF formula.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Where they are considered on the low social economic demographic, in addition to every single one of the four items that I mentioned here today. So with that, I won't be able to support the bill today, Dr. Jackson. Do we have any other comments or questions?
- Lena Gonzalez
Legislator
Yes. Thank you, Madam Vice Chair. I just wanna say, and I really respect my colleague and I understand what she's saying. I actually am gonna support the bill. I actually think it's wonderful having gone through the homeless count every other year in my own city.
- Lena Gonzalez
Legislator
Seeing so many unaccompanied minors out on our streets and needing the additional supports, you know, is certainly needed. And so I'm grateful. I know there's a lot of work to be done still and I'm sure you'll address that in your close. But with that, I, you know, will certainly motion and thank you for bringing the bill forward.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So we have a motion by Senator Gonzalez. Would you like to close, Dr. Jackson?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Sure. Again, this is a population that's really in some cases legal limbo. It is possible that a young person is still trying to get their education, but even a guardian cannot be found. This could be a situation where a parent could be in another country. A parent could have passed, and for some reason, they are not connected to some type of structure.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And which means there's a whole other host of issues that need to, that we have to consider. Number one, does the, does current funding streams allow for housing vouchers? Does current funding structures allow for making sure that meals are being taken care of? Sometimes, it's also what you can do with the funds that are equally as important as funds being available.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And also, I think all of us can agree that there may be various pots of money, but the question is, does it fulfill all the needs of the populations? And I don't think a county would ever say we have enough money for housing vouchers. No problem. We have enough money for... Right?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So I think the idea is is that this is a unique population that's often forgotten. And in many cases, some don't even know exist if they're not paying very close attention. And so we wanna make sure that there's dedicated funding specifically for this population because, literally, they are the most vulnerable with no supports whatsoever.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And so this is a pilot program. And so the idea is is that we wanna see how this works, how we can improve, and maybe how can we realign even current funding structures to even be able to serve this population in the future as well.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I just wanna thank the State Superintendent for identifying this population and trying to figure out how we can serve them and make it flexible enough to make sure that their multiple needs that they may have are fulfilled. So with that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Dr. Jackson. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Okay. Motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Human Services Committee. [Roll Call]
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And we'll keep that bill on call for our absent Members, Dr. Jackson. Thank you so much for coming today.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
I'm not looking at my agenda. Alright. So we'll continue with AB 1552 by member Jackson. Please proceed.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Thank you very much, madam chair, committee members. This bill will require the public higher education segments to report recommendations to the legislature on how to foster a greater knowledge of American democracy and meaningful civic engagement opportunities to ensure our graduates are prepared to assume their roles as Alexander Hamilton will describe in Fearless paper number 16, fulfilling their roles as the natural guardians of our democracy. Respectfully ask for a nigh vote.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you. Doctor Jacks Jackson, no supports no witnesses.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Alright. So we'll continue with any witnesses in support in the audience for AB 1552. Please proceed to the microphone. State your name, your organization, and your and your position, please.
- Katrina Linden
Person
Good morning. Katrina Linden on behalf of Young Invincibles, cosponsor on this bill. Thank you, Assemblymember Jackson. Also speaking in support of Alliance for a Better Community, UCSA, the UC Student Association, and several other partners in our community who support this bill. Thank
- Jaden Villanueva
Person
Hi. I'm Jaden Villanueva. I'm a graduate student at Cal State Long Beach, and I am in support of this bill.
- Jasmine Rodriguez
Person
Go Beach. Hi. My name is Jasmine Rodriguez. I'm from Santa Ana, and I support this bill.
- Unidentified Speaker 026
Hello. My name is Daniel Bosuano. I'm also a graduate student at Cal State LA, and I'm in support of this bill.
- Unidentified Speaker 047
Bill. Kylie Lynn Deli, Asian Americans Advancing Justice Southern California in support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you so much. Seeing no other witnesses in support, we'll continue with any lead witnesses in opposition. Seeing no lead witnesses, do we have any members of the public who would like to express their opposition? Seeing them, we'll bring you back to the dias. Comments and questions?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We have a motion by Senator, Gonzales. I am all about civic engagement and awareness. So I completely appreciate this bill. And this one, I know we have had several bills that have to do with civic engagement, throughout the through my time here and through, our education, whether it's k 12 or higher education. So I am happy to support the bill today and, thank you for bringing this measure forward.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
I'm glad I get to say aye on your bill, doctor Jackson. With that, would you like to close, doctor Jackson? I'd like to ask for your aye vote.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you doctor Jackson. Madam secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Motion is do passed to Senate Appropriations Committee. Senators Perez, Ochoa Bogay, Cabaldon, Choy, Cortese, Gonzales? Aye. Gonzales, aye. Reyes.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you so much. We'll place that on call for absent members. And doctor Jackson, you know, I I appreciate the opportunities when we do get to collaborate and support your bill. Absolutely. You know that.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Have a great day, sir. Alright. We'll continue with file item number five, AB 1572. Member Alanis, welcome.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Good morning. Thank you, madam chair. Everyday, hundreds of thousands of students participate in school athletics. They place their trust in the adults responsible for making sure their games and competitions are safe and fair. AB 1572 aims to strengthen that trust by requiring the California Interscholastic Federation or CIF to conduct annual reviews to make sure that sports officials such as referees, umpires, and judges have met their highest safety training and qualification standards.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Additionally, this bill requires that these qualifications are published and accessible to schools and athletic programs. AB 1572 establishes a clear and responsible implementation timeline beginning 01/01/2027 to ensure a smooth rollout. It further enhances student safety by requiring, starting 07/01/2028, that officials hold an activity supervisor clearance certification from the Commission on Teacher Credentialing. Yes.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
By improving transparency and accountability, schools will be better equipped to ensure that only properly qualified individuals are officiating students, sporting events. And with me today, I have Michelle McKay Underwood, who represents CIF, to testify and answer any technical questions.
- Michelle Underwood
Person
Good morning. Vice Chair Ochoa Bogue and members of the committee, as the assembly member introduced, my name is Michelle Underwood, and I am the legislative advocate for CIF and speaking on behalf of Executive Director Ron Acchetti this morning. On behalf of the CIF Executive Committee, 10 local CIF sections, and the sixteen twenty eight member schools and more than 820,000 student athletes, I'm here to support AB 1572.
- Michelle Underwood
Person
High school athletes make a huge difference in the lives of hundreds of thousands of young people every year, protecting the integrity of the games our kids love to play by demonstrating qualities like honesty, objectivity, consistency, courage, and common sense. They have the opportunity to help California student athletes learn life lessons and play an integral part in providing students with the opportunity to belong, connect, and compete in education based athletics.
- Michelle Underwood
Person
CIF has voluntarily instituted a system that would meet the initial requirements of AB 1572 and we believe the health and safety of all interscholastic athlete participants, so our students, parents, coaches, and officials is worthy of being codified into law. Additionally, we understand that California is moving towards comprehensive fingerprinting background checks for virtually all adults, who interact with students and we will be prepared to implement that standard, for the 28 29 school year.
- Michelle Underwood
Person
In closing, we wanna thank assembly member Alaniz for carrying this important legislation and respectfully request your aye vote. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you, ma'am, for your for your testimony this morning. We'll now continue with any members of the public who would like to express their their, support for this particular bill. AB is fifteen seventy two. Seeing none, do we have any lead, witnesses in opposition?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Seeing none, would any members of the public wish to express their opposition? Seeing none, we'll bring it back to the diocese. Yeah. Thank you, madam. I'm just grateful that you're bringing this forward. I have kids in sports and looking forward and ahead to college and and seeing how important this is.
- Lena Gonzalez
Legislator
So thank you so much for putting this forward. I'd like to be added as a co author as well if I could, and I'd like to motion at the appropriate time.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. And we do have a motion by Senator Gonzales. Member Elanis, thank you for bringing this measure forward. Would you like to close?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Member Elanis. Madam secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Motion is do passed to the Senate Public Safety Committee. Senators Perez, Ochoa Bog. Aye. Ochoa Bog, aye. Cabaldon, Choy, Cortese, Gonzales.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And we'll place that bill on call for our absent members.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We'll continue with file item number six, AB 1586 by member Ramos. Good morning, member Ramos. Welcome.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Well, thank you, madam chair and senators. I want to begin by accepting committee amendments. AB 1586 will ensure the school the school resource officers have both the training and the tools needed to respond in cases of an overdose on school grounds. Right now, SROs are not required to receive standardized training for opioid overdose. This bill would create a uniform process so that any campus with an SRO electing to serve as a volunteer can safely administer naloxone.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Additionally, it would require SROs to undergo an opioid overdose response training every two years through the peace officer standard and training. Through this process, we hope this bill will encourage more SROs to carry naloxone on their persons when on campus. Students deserve to feel safe at school and to know that someone is prepared to respond in case of an overdose. AB 1586 is a practical and common sense measure that will help protect students and support our schools.
- James Ramos
Legislator
With me here today to testify on this bill is Stuart Selecta, program operations supervisor for the Tarzana Treatment Center, and Tom Renfri on behalf of the California Association of Alcohol and Drug Program executives.
- Stuart Selecta
Person
Good morning chair and vice vice chair and members. My name is Stuart Selecta and I serve as the Program oPerations suPervisor at Tarzana Treatment Centers. A community based substance use treatment Provider in Los Angeles County. I'm here in strong suPPort of a P fifteen eighty six. Everyday my team works on the front lines of the overdose crisis imPlementing evidence based common sense strategies to keeP PeoPle alive.
- Stuart Selecta
Person
We train families, school personnel and community partners to recognize the signs of an overdose and respond immediately. And I can tell you from that experience the window to act is incredibly short. Often seconds matter. Survival depends on whether someone nearby is prepared to recognize what's happening and intervene without hesitation. Unfortunately, our schools are not immune to this crisis.
- Stuart Selecta
Person
We've already seen overdoses occur on California campuses, some with devastating outcomes where students never made it home. In those critical first moments, school resource officers are often the first adults on the scene. AB 1586 ensures that when that moment comes, the person standing there has the training and the tools to quickly save a life. The bill also addresses a critical gap in our response. Data.
- Stuart Selecta
Person
Currently, the state does not consistently capture in overdose incidents occurring on school campuses. Without that visibility, we cannot accurately direct prevention resources or respond strategically. AB 1586 closes that gap, equipping providers like Tarzana treatment centers and policy makers like you with the tools and the information needed to target those interventions where they're needed most. This is a practical evidence based and life saving measure. It does not create new complexity.
- Stuart Selecta
Person
It simply ensures we are prepared to respond to what is already happening. On behalf of Tarzana treatment centers I respectfully urge your aye vote and I'm happy to answer any questions.
- Thomas Renfree
Person
Is Red Mean on? Yeah. I guess it does. Good morning, madam chair members. My name is Tom Renfrey.
- Thomas Renfree
Person
I'm a policy consultant with CADPE. We represent substance use disorder treatment providers throughout the state. Youth overdose risk has increased dramatically in recent years due to the proliferation of fentanyl in counterfeit bills and counterfeit pills and other substances. Adolescents may unknowingly ingest fentanyl leading to sudden overdose situations that require immediate intervention. School campuses are increasingly encountering these emergencies.
- Thomas Renfree
Person
And in many cases, school resource officers or other safety personnel have standardized training and access to naloxone. This is a common sense step to improve school safety and protect student health in everyday school environments, bathrooms, parking lots, athletic facilities, and before or after school activities, often in the presence of peers or adults. Reports indicate that many times bystanders, are present in these, overdose situations, but are not able to intervene in time either because they don't have naloxone or they don't know how to use it.
- Thomas Renfree
Person
This bill, will strengthen campus emergency preparedness at minimal cost since Department of Health Care Services provides naloxone, as part of the naloxone distribution project to to schools. And it won't disrupt current training structures, but it also brings school based safety practices into alignment with California's existing emergency medication and public health standards.
- Thomas Renfree
Person
A B 1586 is a critical piece of legislation that increases emergency preparedness on school campuses and helps ensure that life saving overdose reversal medication is available when it is needed. We've got we strongly encourage your, support and thank, assembly member Ramos for introducing this bill. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much, sir, for your testimony this this morning. I will now continue with any, any witnesses in support here in, in the public a b for AB 1586. Please proceed to the, microphone. Your name, your, organization, and your position, please.
- Tristan Brown
Person
Thank you, madam chair and members. Tristan Brown with CFT here in support.
- Clifton Wilson
Person
Clifton Wilson on behalf of the California State Association of Psychiatrists in support. Thank you.
- Chloe King
Person
Chloe King with Political Solutions on behalf of the American Academy of Pediatrics California in support. Thank you.
- McClain Rozanski
Person
McClain Rozanski with the Alameda County Office of Education in support. Thank you.
- Lee Reid
Person
Good morning. LeAngela Reed on behalf of the California School Nurses Organization in support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Good morning. Great to see familiar faces in the audience. We'll now continue with any lead witnesses in opposition. Seeing none, any members of the general public who would like to express their opposition? Seeing now we're bringing it back to the dais.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Comments or questions? We have a motion by Senator Gonzales. Thank you, member Ramos for bringing this, needed, bill forward and for the sake and safety of our students. Thank you so much for your testimonies this, this morning, highlighting the importance of of this measure. With that, would you like to close Senator or Senator, member Ramos?
- James Ramos
Legislator
Thank you so much for for your comments and and testimony, and I ask for your aye vote.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. Madam secretary, please call the roll.
- Jaden Villanueva
Person
Motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Public Safety Committee. Senators Perez, Ochoa Bogue. Aye. Ochoa Bogue, aye. Cabaldon, Choy, Cortese, Gonzales.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
21 with member Murasuchi, which is here. Good morning and welcome, Aloha, sir. Alright.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
Thank you. I have three bills coming up. Bipartisan support with no opposition. First, I'd like to present Assembly Bill 1721. A bill to that would require the state superintendent to convene a work group to review existing school safety plans and to make recommendations and how we can make it make them workable for local school districts.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
As, we all know, while school districts are required to come up with, their comprehensive school safety plans every year, the legislature is prone to, pass, bills every year that add to requirements to, the school safety plans. And so a lot of local, school districts are saying that the school safety mandates are becoming unwieldy. First responders are saying that that it's becoming unwieldy.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
And, and so we want to convene this work group that's supported by educators and first responders to make recommendations to the legislature and how we can make sure that we're addressing the streamlining the, the school safety plans, make sure that they are workable and accessible to not only the school districts but to the local community. And with me here today to testify in support of the bill is Kordell Hampton, with the ACSA.
- Kordell Hampton
Person
To you as well. Good morning, Chair and members. Kordell Hampton with the Association of Conference School Administrators here in support of AB 1721. The comprehensive school safety plan is intended to ensure that every school has a clear, locally developed plan to keep students and staff safe and be prepared for everyday risk, as well as worst-case scenarios. State law establishes a framework requiring schools to plan for a range of emergencies at local level.
- Kordell Hampton
Person
This includes natural disasters such as earthquakes and wildfires, emergency response procedures such as evacuations and shelter-in-place protocol, and serious incidents such as after-shooter situations. At the local level, these plans are developed through a collaborative process that bring together school leaders, staff, parents, classified employees, local law enforcement, and other first responders, a collaborative approach that this book that is reflected in this bill. Over time, however, the requirements of the school safety plan has expanded significantly.
- Kordell Hampton
Person
While well-intentioned, these additions have resulted in plans that are longer, more complex, increasingly difficult to use in real-life situations. And as a result, some school communities have begun to question whether their plans remain effective tool to use during these type of emergencies.
- Kordell Hampton
Person
Access supports AB 1721 because it creates an opportunity to thoughtfully review and improve school safety plans. This bill establishes a work group to evaluate both the required elements and to find opportunities for improvement. It requires a work group to report its findings back to legislature. For these reasons, we respectfully urge your aye vote on AB 1721.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you. And, and just our just so for the audience to know, we the the reason I was so joyous to see Kordell is he was a member of this team prior to his current role. So we're super excited to see him in the professional role here on the on the witness end.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So, thank you. So good to see you. Thank you. With that, we'll continue with any witnesses in support of AB 2060. Please come to the microphone.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
State your name, your organization, and your position on the bill.
- Lee Reid
Person
Good morning, Lee Angela Reid, on behalf of the California School Nurses Organization and the California Association of School Counselors, in strong support.
- Harold Tollerup
Person
Good morning. Harold Tollerup on behalf of San Francisco Unified School District in support.
- Xavier Burchfield
Person
Xavier Burchfield on behalf of California IT and Education in support.
- Rachel Scicluna
Person
Rachel Scicluna on behalf of the San Bernardino County District Advocates, in support.
- McClain Rozanski
Person
McClain Rozanski with the Alameda County Office of Education, in support.
- Sarah Petrovski
Person
Sarah Petrovski, on behalf of the California Association of School Business Officials, in support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you for your, your this is support. I will now continue with any lead witnesses in opposition. Seeing none, do any members of the public would like to express their opposition? Seeing none, we'll continue we'll bring it back to the diocese. Any comments, questions?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We have a motion by Senator Gonzales. Thank you for bringing this measure forward. I think anything that we could do to streamline the process, ensure that there is effectiveness. I'm all for 100%. So thank you for bringing this measure forward.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Wonderful. We'll place that bill on call for our absent members. Thank you for being here today, sir.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And we'll continue with bill item AB 2060 by member Muratsuchi.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
Thank you. AB2060 is a bill to strengthen California's teacher pipeline by, supporting, mentor teachers, experienced mentor teachers to help prepare the next generation of educators. We know that strong mentorship is essential to improving teacher preparedness, increasing teacher retention, and ensuring new teachers are successful in the classroom.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
AB2060 would establish the teacher mentor grant program to create to require local LEAs to come up with standards on as well as providing, dollars 3,000 in a stipend upon appropriation, to, ensure, and support this practice of school districts providing mentor teachers to new, classroom teachers. With me to testify in support of the bill is, Sarek Kaminski, with ACCENT.
- Serette Kaminski
Person
Good morning, Madam Vice Chair and Senators. Serette Kaminski on behalf of the Association of California School Administrators, representing over 18,000 administrators throughout the state. We're proud to support AB2060 and urge your aye vote today. We agree with the author that a critical yet under supported component of the teacher pipeline is the role of experienced classroom teachers who mentor student teacher candidates. Districts are finding it increasingly hard to recruit high quality master teachers for mentorship roles.
- Serette Kaminski
Person
These teachers are already balancing the needs of their students and their classrooms, as well as their families and and obligations. As the committee analysis astutely highlights, the quality of a mentor teacher can shape instructional practice, classroom management skills, and ultimately the candidate's decision to remain in the profession. In short, this direct peer to peer support helps retain new teachers.
- Serette Kaminski
Person
I would add that from an operational standpoint, student teaching pathways are high retention pathways, but California doesn't have a formalized recruitment tool to attract highly qualified seasoned mentors. The bill would help local education agencies broaden the mentor talent pool by incentivizing their support through a $3,000 stipend.
- Serette Kaminski
Person
AB2060 not only strengthens the student teaching experience, but complements the state teacher recruitment efforts. For these reasons, ACCESS supports the measure and urges your aye vote today. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. We'll now continue with any witnesses, from the public that would like to express their support. Please come to the microphone. Your name, your organization, and your and your position on the bill.
- Bryant Miramontes
Person
Good morning. Bryant Miramontes with the California Teachers Association in support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Seeing no other members, in support, we'll continue with any lead witnesses in opposition. Seeing none, any members of the public who would like to express their opposition? Seeing none, we'll bring this back to the dias. Any comments or questions? We have a motion by Senator Gonzales.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you so much for bringing this measure forward. Emeritus, it is incredibly difficult to find master teachers and and especially recruit teachers in this profession and I think I had an amazing mentor when I first began my teaching experience as a teacher and he's not passed away but I owe him a world of things for sharing all of his materials, his insights and just really taking out our survey. So I a huge believer in in mentors in the teaching profession. So thank you so much.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
Yes. Thank you, Vice Chair. AB2440 is a bill to strengthen arts and music education in the state of California. We know that, for too long, not all school districts, not all communities have received the benefits of, arts and music education. Proposition 28 was a major break breakthrough in providing, ongoing dedicated funding, to ensure to help ensure that every community, every school district receives arts and music education.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
However, when when I was still chairing the Assembly Education Committee, we conducted a hearing, where we heard from arts and music educators, as well as local, educational agencies that, in fact, you know, because of the ambiguity in how to implement proposition 28, combined with, a lot of the, significant financial penalties that would be incurred if they didn't properly allocate, funding, arts and music education funding, it became clear that we need to clarify the law so that we make sure that school districts have the necessary guidance to spend these available proposition 28 arts and music education funding dollars.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
Specifically, you know, one of the key tenants of proposition 28, is to make sure that, we're spending to supplement rather than supplant, arts and music, existing arts and music, education funding.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
Also, another common sense proposal that this bill is proposing, is to allow small school districts to be able to, pool, resources so that they can have, like, you know, roving arts and music education teachers that can help meet the needs of of the smaller school districts and and thereby ensure that all communities can benefit from arts and music education. With me, to, testify in support of the bill is Nick Romo representing Create California, and Derek Lennox representing the California County Superintendents.
- Veronica Alvarez
Person
Good morning. Good morning. Vice Chair Ochoa. My name, and, and all the Committee Members. My name is the Doctor Veronica Alvarez.
- Veronica Alvarez
Person
I'm the executive director of CREATE California, the state's leading arts education advocacy organization. We are proud to support AB2440 and deeply appreciate assembly members, Martucci's leadership. Our North Star for Prop 28 is very simple. More art education for more kids. Every student regardless of zip code, background, or income deserves access to full promise of art learning that voters overwhelmingly supported.
- Veronica Alvarez
Person
AB2440 moves us closer to that goal by strengthening implementation and supporting local education agencies as they expand arts programs. I want to highlight three core elements. Aligning the definition of arts education with California's adopted art standards and arts education framework will help ensure high quality instruction and prevent confusion about what counts as arts learning. Refining the supplement not supplant definition will ensure that Prop 28 funds truly expand and increase arts programs rather than backfilling other obligations.
- Veronica Alvarez
Person
Finally, narrowly tailoring reporting requirements that improve transparency for parents and advocates while avoiding unnecessary administrative burden for districts.
- Veronica Alvarez
Person
We look forward to continuing to collaborate to ensure clarity, consistency, and strong implementation statewide and thank you for your leadership, for your commitment to strengthening arts education for all of California's 6,000,000 students. Thank you.
- Derick Lennox
Person
Good morning, Chair and Members. Derick Lennox on behalf of the California County Superintendents. Pleased to support the Member's bill. Thank you, Assemblymember Muratsuchi. Also pleased to introduce my colleague, Kyle Holmes, who will be our subject matter expert and speak to some of the merits of the bill.
- Kyle Holmes
Person
Good morning, Members. Thanks for having us. My name is Kyle Holmes. I serve as the director of the Statewide Arts Initiative for the California County Superintendents. My role is working with the arts education leaders in all 58 of our county offices throughout the state as our network works to expand high quality access to arts education.
- Kyle Holmes
Person
From the statewide implementation perspective for our educators, AB2440 addresses several issues that are important to arts education. I'm gonna echo a lot of what my colleague, doctor Alvarez, already shared. But first, clarifying the supplement, not supplant language is gonna provide further guidance for LEAs as they can spend this money confidently. What we've seen throughout the state is a hesitation in spending due to the uncertainty of prop 28.
- Kyle Holmes
Person
And that means we're slowing our expanding access to arts education for our students that we were supposed to see with this funding.
- Kyle Holmes
Person
The second is the inclusion of the California art standards and the arts education framework. It's gonna provide important clarity around what allowability looks like with this funding and how that money can be used to provide high quality arts education and resources for our students. And finally, the specificity around pooling funds is an important part, especially for our small and rural communities as their prop 28 allocation might not be enough on its own to hire an FTE or provide an ongoing arts education.
- Kyle Holmes
Person
So pulling that funding across school sites would be an important step in helping make sure that those students receive access in those communities. Thank you for your ongoing support of arts education.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. We'll now continue with any witnesses, from the public who would like to express their, support for AB2440. Please come to the microphone. Name and organization and position.
- Carlos Rojas
Person
Good morning. Carlos Rojas representing the Kern County Superintendent School's Office in support.
- McClain Rozanski
Person
McClain Rozanski with the Alameda County Office of Education in support.
- Chad Zellinger
Person
Chad Zellinger, president for California Music Educators Association in full support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you so much. We'll continue with any lead opposition for AB 2440. Seeing none, any members of the public who would like to express their opposition? I know we have to ask. Seeing none, we'll bring it back to the diocese.
- Lena Gonzalez
Legislator
I just wanna thank you, Assemblymember, and your witnesses for this incredible bill. You're on a roll with no opposition in this committee today. So you're doing doing really well for yourself, but very righteous bills. So with that, I'll make the motion when appropriate. Thank you madam vice chair.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And we have a motion by Senator Gonzales. Thank you so much, Assemblymember Maurizio. I I very appreciative of the of your bill. As a mom whose children were all musically trained, I am incredibly grateful for the for the emphasis and the importance that arts play in our students education. So with that, sir would you like to close?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. Madam secretary, please call the roll.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And we'll place that bill on call for our absent member, sir.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We'll now continue with file item number 12, AB 1784. Assemblymember Pellerin, welcome.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
I'm loving your colors today. Thank you so much. Happy, joyful colors.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
And just I'm also gonna be presenting AB 2660 by assemblymember Alvarez.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Should I There we go. I'll start with my first one. Hello. Oh, my gosh. Long statement.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Okay. I would first like to accept the committee's amendments, which reflect ongoing tweaks developed in collaboration with our higher education partners to delay implementation and align the requirements of this bill with the 2027, 2028 academic year. Higher education is one of the most powerful factors for upward economic and social mobility, and California has long been a leader in ensuring educational equity for our students.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Both title nine and the California Sex Equity in Education Act provide procedures for how a campus is to provide academic and structural accommodations for pregnant or pregnancy impacted students in order to preserve their right to equal access to their chosen educational program. Although California's existing Sex Equity and Education Act extends numerous protections to pregnancy impacted graduate students and their partners, but does not extend these protections to undergraduate students.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
In 2021, the US Department of Education Office of Civil Rights found that a California community college had likely violated Title IX by not allowing a student to make up a quiz she missed while she was giving birth. This is not the only instance in recent years where Californian institutions have fallen short of the expectations of Title IX as evidenced by numerous OCR complaints. For a state that has done so much for reproductive care, this is not acceptable.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
AB 1784 prohibits any post secondary educational institution from discriminating against a student or applicant based on the student's current potential or past pregnancy or pregnancy related conditions. Furthermore, in order to ensure that pregnancy impacted students maintain access to their educational program, AB 1784 prohibits an institution of higher education from requiring a student to take a leave of absence or withdraw due to pregnancy.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
According to federal data, there are 300,000 undergraduates who are student parents in California. Under current law, a birth parent is only guaranteed a leave of absence and a return in good academic standing because of the birth of their child if they are a graduate student. Partners who are not the birth parent are only guaranteed these protections if they are a graduate student. State law currently does not require that undergraduates be provided with these protections.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
AB 1784 closes this loophole and extends these protections to all students.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
We must increase these protections because this is a crucial time for pregnant and parenting students given the Supreme Court's decision to strike down the constitutional right to abortion and ongoing attacks to the constitutional right to birth control. Additionally, the Federal Government announced that it will outsource the work of investigating some civil rights complaints from the Office of Civil Rights at the Department of Education to the Department of Justice, and it is unclear how OCR's current caseload will be handled and the future of title nine enforcement.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
This is a straightforward bill with support from reproductive justice and religious groups alike. With me to testify in support is Cathy Van Austin on behalf of the American Association of University Women.
- Cathy Austin
Person
Welcome. Good morning. Thank you, madam chair, members. Cathy Van Austin, AAUW of California. We are very, very proud to support this bill.
- Cathy Austin
Person
We actually worked with Assemblymember Fong last year on a bill that also would have extended some protections for for students, undergraduate students and graduate students. And that bill ended up not not advancing, unfortunately. Access to a quality education is, as you can imagine, a fundamental tenant for AAUW, university women. We care about all people having access to an affordable education.
- Cathy Austin
Person
And while you can have, you know, a a couple going to a university, I have a nephew and his wife going to Cal, you know, they've got a child.
- Cathy Austin
Person
She obviously has extended the courtesy if, you know, as she is pregnant, as she was pregnant. You know, he is a parent. He needs time off as well. So this really does apply to both both male and female, all all gender. We've done a pretty good job of protecting our graduate students and and making sure that they do have accommodations when they are expecting or are going through pregnancy related conditions.
- Cathy Austin
Person
And in California, but we just haven't done that for undergrads. And in California, you know, professors do. Instructors do have latitude. But it's very inconsistent. You may have a professor who is willing to accommodate, an expectant mom and you may have somebody else that feels, you know, you're taking up a slot and you should be here.
- Cathy Austin
Person
So there are very different and there are biases as well. So it's it's inconsistent. And this bill, the important thing that this bill does is it gives you those guidelines. It gives puts down a marker. This is what is acceptable.
- Cathy Austin
Person
This is what is necessary. This is what you need to accommodate. And for that, we're very grateful for the assembly member to bring this back. Our students deserve to be able to complete their education, to be able to go to school without, fear of, you know, losing out on a class, losing out on credits, missing exams.
- Cathy Austin
Person
I could talk forever. Certainly ask for your aye vote and thank you very much.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you. I'm sorry. We have a policy for two minutes. I should have reminded the witnesses and I apologize. That was my mistake.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We'll now continue with any witnesses in support here, from the public.
- Chloe King
Person
Chloe King with political solutions on behalf of the California Commission on the Status of Women and Girls in support. Thank you.
- Keshav Kumar
Person
Keshav Kumar with Lighthouse Public Affairs on behalf of Reproductive Freedom for All in strong support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. We'll now continue with any lead witnesses in opposition to AB 1784. Seeing none, do we have any members of the public who would like to express their opposition? Seeing none, we'll bring it back to the dais. Any comments or questions? Senator Gonzalez?
- Lena Gonzalez
Legislator
Thank you so much for bringing this forward and of course to Kathy or witness, this is just thinking about my time in college and, you know, not feeling like I couldn't go while I was pregnant and had a child and all of the things and and how that can deter so many people from even going. But this is this is a great step in the right direction. I'm glad you stuck with it as well. I'd love to be added as a co author.
- Lena Gonzalez
Legislator
I'd love to have you. So much for continuing the the work. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And we have a motion by Senator Gonzales. Any other comments or questions? Seeing none, I am just shocked that we need this bill. I am I was reading and I just I was really surprised honestly that there is even a need for this particular bill. But I am grateful that you brought this forward.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you so much for for your for your time and your commitment to this bill. Would you like to close? I respectfully ask for your vote. Thank you very much. Madam secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Motion is do passed as amended to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Roll Call.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And we'll place that bill on call, ma'am, for our absent members. Thank you for being here today.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
And then I could do the Alvarez bills? Okay. Great. Okay. His talking points are in smaller font, and so, hopefully, I can read these.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
So, I'm pleased to present AB 2660 on behalf of my colleague as Assemblymember Alvarez. AB 2660 takes the critical first step in strengthening and diversifying California's STEM workforce by building a coordinated pipeline from high school to, faculty positions and industry leadership. Specifically, this bill would codify two existing STEM programs, Cal-Bridge and and ENLACE, to help students from underrepresented - oh, you got glasses. Oh my gosh. Okay.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Well, those are much better. Thank you. Specifically, this bill would codify two existing STEM programs, Cal Bridge and ENLACE, to help students from underrepresented communities to achieve a PhD and join the state's science and technology industry as leaders in their field. California's science and technology industries are a main economic driver of the state's economy. However, due to a lack of diversity in these industries, the state underutilizes its talent.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Only 15% of the 1,500,000 tech workers are Black or Latino and only 26% are Latin despite each group comprising half of the state's population. One key factor leading students from these groups to exit STEM educational pathways is the lack of faculty who reflect their backgrounds. Only 4.5% of UC STEM faculty and only 9.2% of CSU STEM faculty are Latino, Black, or Native American.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Cal-Bridge creates a structured pathway for students from California community colleges and California State universities to pursue STEM PhDs and careers in academia and in the tech industry. Through five sub-programs, students receive mentorship, financial aid, research opportunities, and professional development, supporting them from undergraduate studies through post doctoral stages.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
In addition to Cal Bridge, the in LACE program operates independently, but complements these efforts by supporting STEM pathways from high school through undergraduate education. Together, these initiatives would form a comprehensive approach addressing STEM education at every level. I now turn to my lead witness and support, Dr. Alex Rudolph, founder and executive director of the Cal-Bridge Program.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
Good morning, Chair Perez and distinguished committee members. My name is Alex Rudolph, and I'm the Founder and Executive Director of the Cal-Bridge Program. I'm here to ask you to support AB 2660, which would codify the Cal Bridge Program in these times of unprecedented assault on the diversity, equity and inclusion in higher education. California size and technology industries represent 17% of the state's economy, generating over $500,000,000,000 of economic activity annually.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
However, due to a lack of diversity in these industries, half of the state's current population is woefully underrepresented in these areas, thereby severely underutilizing the state's human capital.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
The problem of underrepresentation of Black, Latino, indigenous, and women populations in the science and technology fields has been around for decades with very little progress being made. The Cal-Bridge program is one of the most successful programs at addressing this inability of the state to fully utilize its science and technology talent. Cal-Bridge is a statewide intersegmental program of the community colleges, CSU, and UC systems.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
For the past thirteen years, Cal-Bridge has supported the diverse undergraduate STEM majors in California to complete their bachelor's degrees and go on to attain a STEM PhD, allowing them to join and diversify California STEM workforce as leaders, including his professors who will teach and inspire the next generation of the state's diverse STEM undergraduates. Thus, this highly successful intersegmental program fulfills the vision of the California master plan for education by guiding California's own undergraduates through the three levels of its higher education system.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
Almost two-thirds of Cal-Bridge undergraduate scholars who apply to PhD programs are admitted, a statistic unmatched anywhere in the country. With recent state support, the Cal-Bridge program now supports these scholars who continue on to attain PhDs within the UC system. Cal-Bridge is currently being funded year to year, which makes it difficult to maintain the multiyear commitment to each cohort of scholars necessary for the success of the program.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
By codifying the program, we hope that our future funding will be more secure and thereby keep Cal-Bridge, one of the most successful DEI programs in the state's history, alive. We respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you for your presentation. We'll now hear from me-too's in support. Please use the mic at the railing.
- Chloe King
Person
Chloe King with Political Solutions on behalf of the California Commission on the Status of Women and Girls, also in support. Thank you.
- Jason Henderson
Person
Jason Henderson on behalf of the Faculty Association for California Community Colleges, in support. Thank you.
- Maclean Rozansky
Person
Maclean Rozansky with the Alameda County Office of Education, in support.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Now do we have any witnesses in opposition? If there are any witnesses in opposition, please rise. Seeing no one rising, I'll now turn it back to the committee. Do we have any questions or comments from committee members?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chair. I do have some questions about the students because it says, it codifies the the program. And the program itself fosters by national collaboration by pairing high school and college students from the US and Mexico for seven weeks of intensive world class research by transcending borders and providing immersive lab experiences. So, this is where I have the question.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
It says, "By pairing high school students and college students from the US and Mexico for seven weeks of intensive care." So my part, my question is more on the when - who are these students that we are selecting or choosing to participate? Is this something that the US is through the program selecting from Mexico? Where are these kids from and where are they coming from? And I'll expand as to why my question.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
You're speaking of the ENLACE program, which is a separate but related program that is part of this bill, not part of the Cal-Bridge program directly.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
So, I'll try to answer on behalf of the director who's not here, but my understanding is that she has been running professor at UC San Diego has been running a summer research program for about twelve years, in which she recruits students from high school students from Mexico and from The US brings them together for the summer at UC San Diego where they participate jointly in research projects. I don't know the details of how she selects the scholars or how she recruits them.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And then the other question I have: are these students that are being selected to participate in the summer programs in our universities from Mexico; are they paying to participate in this program on their own or is this something that we as the university or taxpayers are paying or funding for these students?
- Alex Rudolph
Person
My understanding is that up until this time, the money has been - the students have been paying to participate. I do believe that there is funding that's obtained to help students who are unable to pay, and I think there may be an appropriation in the current budget which would change that. But again, I'm not director of that program, so I'm trying to speak on behalf of - I don't know if you wanna
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
I'm looking through my FAQs and I have an answer to that. Okay. So, the student participation fee is 7,500, which covers housing, food, field trips, and all program expenses, excluding flights and visa fees. However, many participants received scholarships thanks to support from industry partners, including Illumina Insulate, ASML, Hologic, Sempra Energy, Viasat, and Solar Turbines, as well as UC San Diego itself.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So, UC San Diego is providing some of that scholarship on - I'm just trying -
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
It says that university students accepted as chaperones receive a full scholarship.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So, the chaperones receive the chaperones for these students receive full com full scholarship, meaning that they were probably be housed food.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Through those partners that are are doing the fundraising for the program is what I'm -
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. So, the UC is just facilitating the the administration, not necessarily funding. I think members would probably - I'm just trying to figure out whether or not we're funding students from Mexico's education on there.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
So, I can't - that's fair. I can't really answer the question because it's not a program that I'm involved with directly.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. And I think based on your on your on your comments, I think we it would be fair to say that primarily, they're all self funding or being provided scholarships by private industry. It's not tax dollars as being primarily spent on this
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. Does anybody have any insight? I don't know if anybody else has an insight.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
I feel like I'm on a game show. Okay. We are not funding Mexican students. That's correct. Okay.
- Alex Rudolph
Person
And just to clarify, all of the Cal-Bridge scholars are US citizens or permanent residents.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Okay. And that would be okay if we did. I just wanna make sure that because of in light of everything that's going on; I just wanna make sure that we're clear on the programs where the funding is coming in and who we're we're funding just for clarity purposes. I think it's important in light of our where we are right now. So, okay.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
With that, I thank you so much for for for answering our questions. Appreciate that.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you. Seeing no other questions or comments, I support the bill. My recommendation is an aye vote. I'll turn it over to you to close, Assemblymember.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
I respectfully ask for your aye vote, on behalf of Assemblymember Alvarez.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Excellent. And, that, motion is do passed to the Senate Appropriations Committee. Do we have a motion? We have a motion from Senator Gonzales. Secretary, can you call the roll?
- Committee Secretary
The motion is due pass to Senate Appropriations Committee. [Roll Call].
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Great. And we will put that bill back on call. Thank you so much, Assemblymember. I see we have Assemblymember Krell in the audience to present AB 1845. Assemblywoman, you can get started whenever you're ready.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Oh, hey. Also oh, I didn't realize - Apologies. I did not realize Assemblymember Stephanie - the schedule, is that okay? Okay. Alrighty. Let's go ahead and get started.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
We have an arrangement this morning and appreciate that. Good morning, Madam Chair and senators. I'm here to present Assembly Bill 1845 today. This is an important bill that ensures that human trafficking is included in the Title IX framework for universities that are federally funded. You might think that when our kids go away to college that they're safe from human trafficking.
- Unidentified Speaker 038ID Pending
we have an arrangement this morning and appreciate that. Good morning, madam chair and senators. I'm here to present assembly bill 1845 today. This is an important bill that ensures that human trafficking is included in the title nine framework for universities that are federally funded. You might think that when our our kids go away to college that they're safe from human trafficking.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
Unfortunately, that's not true. We're seeing a lot of vulnerability on college campuses because of financial instability, because of housing insecurity, and because there are traffickers that are specifically, preying on students in the college environment, both on social media and on campus. In fact, I prosecuted a case before I became an assemblywoman where the defendant stole the victim's financial aid fund and then forced the victim into prostitution.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
So, unfortunately, that does happen, but we have really good tools in order to protect students and make sure that they're able to protect themselves from human trafficking, and that's what 1845 is about. With me today is Hillary Evans, Survivor Leader and the Director of Social Impact at 3Strands Global Foundation, and also Alicia Nagpal, Student and Vice President of Legislative Affairs with the Student Senate for California Community Colleges.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
I also wanna thank the committee staff for working with my office on this bill. I accept the amendments, and they make sure they ensure that this is a workable framework, for all our schools, you know, in order to be able to implement this important bill. So with that, I will turn it over to my witnesses.
- Hillary Evans
Person
Good morning, Chair Perez, members of the committee. My name is Hillary Evans. I'm the Director of Social Impact at 3Strands Global Foundation and a survivor of child human trafficking. I'm here to respectfully urge your support for AB 1845. When I was a child, no one taught me what grooming looked like.
- Hillary Evans
Person
No one explained healthy relationships or tactics that traffickers use to exploit young people. If I had received that education, I may have recognized the warning signs sooner and asked for help. I also wonder how different my life could have been if the adults around me, the teachers, the counselors, the coaches, and the professors had been trained to ask what happened instead of what's wrong with her.
- Hillary Evans
Person
AB 1845 provides that training so that when young people signal for help, the trusted adults around them have the tools to recognize it and to act. With a training like this, I could have been connected to resources and help sooner.
- Hillary Evans
Person
I work at 3Strands Global Foundation because I want other children and young adults to have what I didn't. Through prevention education, we've seen firsthand how giving young people the language to identify exploitation helps them protect themselves and their peers. Education creates awareness, awareness leads to action, and action can save lives. AB 1845 extends that culture of awareness into our colleges and into our universities. We recognize that campuses already prioritize safety through Title XI and existing programs.
- Hillary Evans
Person
This bill doesn't duplicate these efforts. It closes a critical gap by clearly defining human trafficking and requiring specific annual training, transforming awareness into standardized campus wide safety practices. We cannot undo the past, but we can give the next generation the knowledge that I wish I had. On behalf of 3Strands Global Foundation and as a survivor, I respectfully ask for your aye vote on AB 1845. Thank you.
- Alicia Nagpal
Person
Good morning, Chair Perez and members. My name is Alicia Nagpal, and I serve as the Vice President of Legislative Affairs for the Student Senate for the California Community Colleges. As a recent community college graduate, I'm proud to testify in support of AB 1845, which establishes clear policies and procedures post secondary institutions must adopt to identify and respond to human trafficking on campus. Our support is grounded in two SSC triple resolutions; one of the resolutions, S240212, calls for a system wide campaign to raise awareness about human trafficking. And resolution S261001 calls for the creation of confidential advocates at every California community college, dedicated full time on campus professionals whose sole job is supporting survivors of sexual assault and domestic violence, distinct from general mental health counselors. These resolutions exist because the need is real. One in three women and one in ten men experience domestic violence in their lifetime.
- Unidentified Speaker 039ID Pending
respond to human trafficking on campus. Resolutions, S240212, calls for a system wide campaign to raise awareness about human trafficking. And resolution S26 ten zero one calls for the creation of confidential advocates at every California community college, dedicated full time on campus professionals whose sole job is supporting survivors of sexual assault and domestic violence, distinct from General Mental Health counselors. These resolutions exist because the need is real. One in three women and one in ten men experience domestic violence in their lifetime.
- Unidentified Speaker 032ID Pending
post secondary institutions must adopt to identify and
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
Research showing that students of color are statistically more likely to experience sexual violence than their white counterparts. And with seventy seven percent of our system students being students of color, this is not a peripheral issue. It is central to who we serve. AB 1845 builds on prior efforts by the legislature to address human trafficking in California. It requires institutions to adopt policies guiding staff on how to identify students most at risk of trafficking.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
By folding trafficking identification into existing training rather than requiring separate program, the bill strengthens safeguards already in place for victims of sex discrimination without adding new burdens on campus staff that has already stretched thin serving our students. The bill also requires written agreements with local law enforcement to reports are promptly and appropriately shared while protecting a victim's right to confidentiality, unless they choose otherwise.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
We're especially grateful that the author has recognized the population's trafficking targets and the patterns, housing instability, lack of family support and other vulnerabilities that put community college students at risk. This bill reflects the diverse student body of the CCC system and SSCCC serves and the students we are here on behalf of. On behalf of the students we represent, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you for your presentation. We'll now hear me-too's in the audience. Please use the mic at the railing.
- Cathy Austin
Person
Madam Chair, members: Cathy Van Austin on behalf of the American Association of University of Women California, co-sponsor and strong support.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Good morning. Samantha Ariza here on behalf of Three Strands Global Foundation in strong support.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
Good morning. Genesis Gonzales on behalf of Lieutenant Governor Eleni Colonnakis in support. Thank you.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Atoria Foley on behalf of the California Survivor Coalition and Three Strands Global Foundation Survivor Advisory Council in strong support. Thank you.
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Christina Caffenau, UC San Francisco Children's Hospital and UC Berkeley, alumna, retiree and volunteer in wholehearted support. And thank you everyone.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Excellent. Now we hear from any witnesses in opposition. If there are any witnesses in opposition, please rise. Seeing no one rising, I'll turn it back to the committee. Do we have committee questions or comments?
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
Yes. Thank you, assembly member, for bringing it forward. I'm on a roll with the co authorship today, but I I really, really do, appreciate this bill, and I I really love, what you're doing here. I think this has been a big gap is connecting our educational systems with this type of training and ensuring that there is prevention, and education on this. How do you and and I wanna thank your witnesses as well, as well, for being here, especially, survivor for telling your story.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
Thank you. How do you envision the training? Where would the, you you know, universities adopt this training? Who would be identified as someone who could be a trusted, you know, trainer? What does that all look like in terms of logistics for this implementation?
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
Thanks so much for your support and and and great point. Since the universities are already required to have, title nine training that, you know, covers gender discrimination and sexual harassment, the the bill really envisions continuing that framework and just expanding it to include human trafficking.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
And then in terms of, you know, what materials specifically would be used, I mean, that would be within the discretion, of the of the schools, but certainly there's several, community based organizations that, you know, that I've worked with that I know have been active on college campuses on a voluntary basis, to make sure that, you know, the right information is is, you know, communicated to the right people.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
Yep. And Aye, and I think that's yes. Absolutely. And I wanna make sure that it's gonna be customized, I know, based on the region, etcetera. But there are some providers
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
are more comprehensive than others, and I know you know that very well working in this space. I know that just in Long Beach, there's a difference of opinion on the type of approach to to how to, you know, work with survivors. And we wanna do as much prevention as possible versus the after after they've been abused and victimized and all of that. And I know this is all prevention which is very good.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
I'm just gonna be very curious as to how this is implemented and it would be maybe good down the road to have some additional sort of highlight on reporting and how it's working in certain regions and how we can continue to support maybe even from a state level even though this does not come with state dollars.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
But with that, thank you very much. Look forward to supporting.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
Thank you, madam chair. I I am, one of this committee's biggest skeptics of of all the new programs and reports that that we do. I I come from the world of higher ed, and having been Vice Chancellor there, just I often want, can we just let people implement the stuff that we passed over the last five years, we're drowning in new requirements and what have you.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
So generally I'm skeptical of bills that add more training requirements and more and more of the more exclamation points behind programs that we already have. That said, I think this bill is very important and necessary.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
And part is for the reason that you described about why it wouldn't be that as much work as you might imagine, that it is all kind of captured in Title IX. But you know having having done work on this with local campuses and I was I helped negotiate the Christian Smart Campus Safety Act that you're amending here from when I was at the community colleges.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
The Title IX these topics are all together And so, you know, you're supposed to do work on sexual harassment and on sexual violence and on hate crimes and and maybe human trafficking too. And it's it's a lot.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
And if you're in at the campus and you're making a judgment about how how to design your materials, where to focus your attention, the, you know, the chances that a student is going to have to grapple that day with with with date rape or sexual assault or sexual harassment are high are high, higher than they are for human trafficking.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
So you might you might rationally say I want I'm going to just like even subconsciously I'm going to focus on these areas and human trafficking often gets left behind or it's just like added on. And also you should be worried about human trafficking in the training or here's two minutes on it.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
And so this bill I think is important in in both highlighting and creating the framework that human trafficking is it can be related but is essential that students be aware of and others on the in the campus community about what the risks, the warning signs, the resources, the tools, the accountability, all of that is necessarily to be uplifted and so I am supportive of the of the bill.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
I think it is a very important step forward to assure that we're not treating it as just sort of the end of a sentence, that but that human trafficking is gets the attention and the focus that it needs to sort of wake up a freshman and say, hey, you may have not thought about this in your small town and in Solano County or whatever. You need to pay attention to it.
- Unidentified Speaker 023ID Pending
And here are the resources and the tools and the ways to recognize what's happening so that so that you can you and and the campus are here to or can protect against human trafficking. So thanks to the other. I also intend to support it. I appreciate it. Thanks Madam Chair.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Great. Seeing no other comments or questions, I support your bill Assemblymember Kroll. My recommendation is an aye vote. I'll turn it over to you to close.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
Thank you so much. Thanks so much for the comments. Just, you know, to to your point, a study was conducted among college students on 12 Southern California campuses, and it found that forty per forty two percent of students reported having known someone who was sold for sex or who was trafficked as a college student. So Aye, you know, I do think it's prevalent enough that, every student should hear about it. And as everybody knows, it's it's devastating.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
You know, one student is one too many. So I appreciate, everyone's support on this bill. I think this is really important. I think this will, prevent human trafficking and, respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
We have a motion by Senator Gonzales, and that motion is do passed as amended to the Senate judiciary committees. Secretary, can you call the roll?
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
Senators Perez? Aye. Perez, aye. Ochoa Bogue? Aye.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
Ochoa Bogue, aye. Cabaldon? Aye. Cabaldon, aye. Choi.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Great. And we, will put that bill on call. Thank you so much, Assemblywoman. Next up, we have Assemblymember Stephanie presenting AB 1734. You can begin whenever you're ready.
- Unidentified Speaker 042ID Pending
Thank you, Madam Chair. Today, I'm presenting AB 1734 called the Count Hunger Act, which responds to the Federal Government's decision to scale back hunger data collection by strengthening California's own food insecurity research that's currently being done by UCLA. California has one of the highest cost of living in our nation, yet our current surveys do not fully reflect that reality.
- Unidentified Speaker 042ID Pending
And without accurate data, we lose sight of who is struggling to put food on the table, where the gaps exist, and how policy changes are affecting families across our state. But we know that hunger doesn't disappear when we stop looking for it.
- Unidentified Speaker 042ID Pending
What disappears really is our ability to respond to that hunger, and we cannot solve a problem that we can't see. The Count Hunger Act recognizes the importance of food insecurity research and the need to raise the federal poverty level to 400% so that we can capture the realities of California's high cost of living. When we did a press conference at the San Francisco Food Bank, we had someone, testify to the fact that she's a single mom.
- Unidentified Speaker 042ID Pending
She's way above, 200% of the federal poverty line, but she wasn't qualifying for assistance. She has a child with disabilities and struggles to maintain work while at the same time has high medical costs for her child.
- Unidentified Speaker 042ID Pending
And yet she's not seen in our current hunger data because she's above, 200% of the federal poverty line. So that's one of the reasons why we are urging, the California state legislature to direct that we must measure that food insecurity at 400% of the federal poverty line. This bill is really about making sure struggling Californians are seen, counted, and not left behind. Today in support is Josh, from the California Association of Food Banks and Maxwell from the San Francisco Marin Food Bank.
- Unidentified Speaker 043ID Pending
Good morning, chair Perez and members. My name is Josh Wright, and I'm the director of government relations for the California Association of Food Banks. We represent 43 member food banks who partner with nearly 6,000 organizations around the state with the mission to end hunger in California. The California Health Interview Survey, known as CHIS, is an annual health survey administered by UCLA Center for Health Policy Research. CHIS is the largest state health survey reaching 25,000 households yearly, on and covering a variety of topics including food insecurity.
- Unidentified Speaker 043ID Pending
Since its inception, CHIS has helped inform key policy decisions and datasets. For instance, this has helped has helped local governments map food and security rates and provided California specific data on the impacts of food access during the COVID nineteen pandemic. CHIS is even more essential now as a supplement to the recently canceled decades old USDA household food security report. High quality food insecurity data like CHIS ensures that we are informed of the impacts of policy decisions and increasing cost of living pressures that are impacting Californians.
- Unidentified Speaker 043ID Pending
AB 1734 recognizes the importance of the CHIS survey as a critical measure of food insecurity in our state and encourages UCLA to expand the food insecurity provisions in the survey to include households with incomes at or below 400% of the federal poverty line.
- Unidentified Speaker 043ID Pending
That's approximately a $128,000 for a family of four, which is roughly the cost of living in California. The expansion would provide us with a sustainable source of data on the prevalence of food insecurity in our state. CIFB is proud to cosponsor AB 1734 along with the San Francisco Marin Food Bank. And I'll turn it over to Maxwell.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
Thank you. Good morning, chair and members of the committee. My name is Maxwell Titsworth. As chief data and technology officer at the San Francisco Marin Food Bank, I can tell you that we're at risk of losing visibility into hunger. As you heard, the USDA hunger survey has been suspended.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
Its most recent data shows that food security food insecurity is reaching record highs nationally. And the California Health Interview Survey, food and security screener, our best remaining state tool, is at risk. AB 1734, the Count Hunger Act recognizes this. Retaining existing food and security measurement is really critical. It's also important to expand the screening from 200% to 400% of the federal poverty line because research shows that a third of food insecure households nationally earn above that 200% line.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
The California Health Interview Survey is a unique California asset. Respondents in every county surveyed in six language languages with data collection running for more than twenty years. No existing survey matches that reach. AB 1734 recognizes the importance of the California Health Interview Survey. It's targeted its evidence base and ensures that California doesn't leave struggling families invisible simply because they earn a few dollars above an outdated cutoff.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you for your presentations. We'll now hear from, Me Too 's in support. If you could use the mic at the railing.
- Unidentified Speaker 022ID Pending
Clifton Wilson on behalf of Alameda Stopwaste as well as the City and County of San Francisco as well as the board of supervisors for the City and County of San Francisco, Napa, and Marin, all in support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 012ID Pending
Josh Gaugher on behalf of the Saint Claire County Board of Supervisors in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 037ID Pending
Kaishv Kumar with Lighthouse Public Affairs on behalf of the California Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics in support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 035ID Pending
Good morning, Madam Chair and members. Jonathan Munoz on behalf of First Sight of Los Angeles in strong support, and we thank the author.
- Unidentified Speaker 016ID Pending
Madam Chair and senators, Adam Kegon on behalf of No Kid Hungry in support.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Great. Thank you. Now do we have any witnesses in opposition? Any witnesses in opposition? Seeing no one rising, I'll turn it back to the committee.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Okay. We have a motion. Assembly member, I support your bill. My recommendation is an aye vote. Would you like to close?
- Unidentified Speaker 042ID Pending
Thank you, madam chair. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you. And we have a motion by Senator Choa Bogue, and that motion is do passed to the appropriations committee. Secretary, can you call the roll?
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
Senators Perez? Aye. Perez, aye. Ochoa Bogue? Aye.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
Chua Bogue, aye. Cabaldon? Cabaldon, aye. Choi Cortese Gonzalez Reyes? Aye.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
So we'll go ahead and we'll do, the consent bills now, seeing as we have no authors. Secretary, can you call the roll? We have a motion by Senator Gomez Reyes.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
And we will put consent on call. I know we're currently waiting on some members to head down here. We'll go ahead and lift the call, so we can do some add ons briefly. Secretary, can you lift the call?
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Great. And we will put all those bills back on call. I see you have Assemblymember Fong with us. Assemblymember Fong, I know, you're presenting a couple of bills, so you can get started whenever you're ready.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning, Madam Chair and senators. Start with item 16. In 2021, Assembly Bill 320, authored by mister Medina, a measure intended to ensure students who graduate from California's community colleges with a bachelor degree are qualified to enter educator preparation programs. And then finally create a loophole that would allow community colleges to offer teacher preparation programs.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
For the last five years, California community colleges were permitted to apply for the commission for teacher credentialing for authorization to offer educator teacher preparation programs or credential programs. It was not until this year that a community college attempted to seek authorization from the commission. The legislature was made aware of this drafting error earlier this year and took swift action to close the loophole and the pathways to this an inadvertent authorization.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
However, instead of denying the community colleges an opportunity to address a clear workforce shortage and workforce need, assuming Bill 2206 seeks to close the loophole while offering community colleges an opportunity to demonstrate the capacity to meet the demand for quality career technical K-twelve teachers.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
This measure contains a pilot program which will allow roughly 40 community colleges the opportunity to offer teacher preparation programs in the career technical field to offer teacher preparation programs they are in that matches the bachelor degree programs currently offered on the respective campuses.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
This pilot is a measured approach and is mirrored after the pilot program, which paved the way for community colleges to offer non duplicative bachelor degrees. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you for your presentation, Assemblymember. Do we have any Me Too's who would like to register their support?
- Serette Kaminski
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair and members. Serette Kaminski on behalf of the Association of California School Administrators in support. Thank you.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you. Do we have any me, tos or witnesses in opposition? Seeing no one rising seeing no one rising, I'll turn it back to the committee. Do we have any committee comments or questions? Senator Cabaldon.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Well, I, I, but I, I guess my principal question might be for folks who haven't spoken at all. The analysis notes the the tension in how you know, what what what the bill actually what what the bill is with vis a vis, some of the school folks and then how the community colleges might see it differently. Are the do we have any representatives of the community colleges that happen to be present here today? It does not look like we do.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Okay. And and I think the so the analysis makes a point that community college stakeholders might might view the bill differently from what I understood it was and what the author has also presented it with respect to is it is existing a limitation for for authorized community college bachelor's degree programs in this field. So I'm still curious about that. But but I guess the second question I had was with respect to the the framework of the of the bachelor degree being applied in this particular case.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Do do does the bill include the same kinds of limitations or, you know, pause moments, I guess, is in order to offer a program in this space for for the designated subject CTE credential pilot program.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
I mean, does that that still counts against the the cap that were proposed that is being proposed by both the assembly and the Senate, for example, in bachelor degree programs and it still has to be something that is has a demonstrated workforce need, in the region in which it's, the bachelor's degree is being offered. Is that, does this build mimic those, replace them, supplement them or is it a, it is a, is it a more open ended authorization for for these for these programs?
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Thank you so much, Senator, for that question. In terms of the cap, it doesn't affect the cap of the number of bachelor programs that are able to be offered by our community colleges. What this bill does is allows the opportunity to run a pilot program for up to seven years for up to 40 community college bachelor degree programs. So it's separate from the bachelor's degree approval process.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Okay. So it so it is it's outside of the cap that is the cap is not existing. Well, there is an existing or cap, but it's proposed I think in both this committee and in in the distinguished chair of the Assembly Higher Education Committee. Both committees have have added language to the pending legislation to tighten that cap. But the so these 40 bachelor degree programs would be in addition to that cap.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Sorry if I was clear. This would just offer the teacher credential programs for up to 40 programs, but programs that are already offered at our community colleges, so it would not affect the current cap that's in place of the approval process, if I understand your question.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
And is the the existing bachelor's degree programs in these in these CTE fields in order to be approved are required to to demonstrate through a, you know, a somewhat rigorous process of data analysis, Mandy, that there is a there is an actual workforce need in that region that is unmet.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
So does this framework include that or would this cap I guess part of the question is if if if you have a CTE subject that you that you are contemplating offering as a bachelor program in a in a particular college, is the fact that the the schools would like to have more teachers in that CTE field, does that count as a workforce need?
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
I know I've never thought about it that way before, but it's the bill raises an interesting question as to whether that that alone, for example, is enough to demonstrate a workforce need or does there have to be an actual workforce need still in the for the actual occupation?
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Thank you for that question, Senator. In terms of the actual occupation, there still have to be the demonstrated workforce need for that type of program. They offer that to community college. And if that community college does offer that bachelor degree program, then what this bill would do was allow them to, in the future, in the pilot program, offer the bachelor degree teaching credential program to to match that field.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Do we have any other questions or comments? Okay. Seeing none, my recommendation is an aye vote. I support your bill assembly member, so I'll turn it over to you to close.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Thank you so much madam chair and senators. Thank you for the questions and insights. This is a a bill that would help fulfill another opportunity offered additional career technical education credentials and needs a bachelor degree programs that are being offered at our community colleges. So I colleges. So I was supposed to ask for an aye vote.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Thank you. So do we have a motion on this bill? We have a motion from Senator Gomez Reyes and that motion is do passed to the Senate Appropriations Committee Secretary. Can you call the roll?
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Great. And we will put that bill on call. Next up, you have another bill you're presenting, assembly member. You can get started when you're ready.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Thank you so much. And good morning, Madam Chair and members. AB2523 increases transparency in California's public higher education systems by improving public access to governing Board Members. Students, faculty, and staff, and community members often face barriers when trying to communicate directly with higher education decision makers. Current law does not require governing Board Members to publicly post their contact information.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
As a result, communications are typically routed through liaison offices rather than sent directly to Board Members. AB2523 requires the CSU and California Community Colleges or request the University of California to post governing boards, members' contact information on their websites. And when I served as a trustee for the Los Angeles Community College District, we had trustee email address that was a public email address that, members of the committee were able to send us input.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
And improved access will allow stakeholders to share input directly with Board Members on issues before the board. The Bill also encourages board governing Board Members to consider public and stakeholder feedback on matters discussed at open meetings.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
And here to testify in support of AB2523 are Andrea Terry, associate professor of communication studies at Sacramento State University, and Eric Barretas, legislative director with the California Faculty Association. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
Oh. Are we on? Okay. Good morning, Chair Press and committee members. My name is Andrea Terry, and I'm a professor of communication studies at Sacramento State University.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
I'm also a proud member of the California Faculty Association. As a faculty member who's worked in the CSU system for ten years, I can speak to some of the barriers that exist when attempting to contact a member of the Board of Trustees for the CSU. The CSU Board of Trustees meets bimonthly, meaning every other month. And if a member of the public wishes to express a concern on an issue during one of those meetings, we're limited to only one minute of public comment.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
If we wish to contact a member of the Board of Trustees, we are unable to.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
The only way we have to reach them is a general phone number, a general email address, and a general mailing address that goes through a liaison listed on the CSU's website. And to be honest, we're not even sure if those messages get passed along consistently. I have a number of colleagues who've used these methods and received no response. The CSU is the largest public higher education system in the country that's funded through our tax dollars.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
Trustees vote on important decisions that impact the future of higher education, and we should have the ability to contact them directly.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
As the decision makers in the largest public university system in the nation, trustees have a responsibility to receive, listen to, and read input from the public. As a member of the faculty senate at Sac State, I have gotten to interact very briefly with a couple of trustees when they visited our campus. They have said that they're open to our feedback. They've said that they want to hear from us, but members from our campuses have no real way to contact them.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
AB 2523 would bring the CSU the CSU's policy for contact information for its governing body to be in more more in line with other California governing bodies.
- Unidentified Speaker 001ID Pending
That's provided to them by the institution, in my case, the CSU system. I urge you to please support AB 2523. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 002ID Pending
Good morning, Chair and members. Eric Paredes with the California Faculty Association. Just wanna thank the assembly member for authoring this important bill, which will expand access to California's higher education governing boards. I just wanna echo everything that professor Andrea Terry just said. But I will just add that increasing public accessibility would allow for stakeholders to not only share concerns about issues impacting higher education, but it would also allow us to build relationships with them.
- Unidentified Speaker 002ID Pending
We all want to improve higher education, and we believe that increased access would allow us to have important dialogue with the people who are voting on the future of these institutions. So here to answer any specific questions about the bill, but just, you know, urge you all to support it as well. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Thank you for your presentation. We'll hear from any other Me Too's in support. Seeing no one rising, do we have any witnesses in opposition or Me Too's in opposition? Seeing no one rising, we'll turn it back to the committee. Yes, Senator Gomez Reyes.
- Unidentified Speaker 003ID Pending
This is a commonsensical bill. Something that in and it's not only for the faculty to be able to contact the the trustees but for the the community to be able to to to to reach them for for all three of our higher higher education institutions. I appreciate you bringing this forward and with that I would move the bill when appropriate.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Thank you, Senator Gomez Reyes. And Senator Capaldin?
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
community colleges isn't city and county governments that have elected, members of their legislative bodies and are both sworn by their oath to the constitution and the job description to be responsive at the individual level. The volunteers that serve on state agency boards do not have such an they don't have such an obligation. We don't provide them staffing to do so. And in every other domain, very important domains of people's lives, the Public Utilities Commission does not have this requirement.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
The Water Board does not know that state agencies have none of them have this requirement.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
That's what these the two of the institutions are. The community colleges is a separate question because they are elected officials. But for UC and CSU they are no different as state boards than any other.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
And, and so I think that the for me, the fundamental notion that each of the individuals is obligated to, we we have an expectation that they will respond to every every, public comment, that's received, by them by their email address or otherwise is it's not reasonable, for volunteers who have no staff support to do so.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
I don't think there's any evidence that the the clerks of the board of regents and the board of trustees are not are not sending and compiling that information, which makes it much more readable when, you are a regent or a trustee, which I have never been, but, in where where you get the weekly report of all the feedback that you've that you have received.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
It's all and can be noted for response by the clerk. So I I understand the intention here. I've had the same I'm I'm a former faculty member and a former former student lobbyist. I've had the same frustrations.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
But the but the the answer here is not to create a pathway that cannot is not going to result in any additional responsiveness because these volunteer trustees don't have the capacity to respond to every single comment, while also creating an exceptional responsibility for those trustees that does not exist for any other, state agency board, even those that are life and death, in in in the state of California.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
So I appreciate it. I appreciate what the author is trying to do. I understand, the arguments for it, but but this but the UC Board of Regents is not a city council. It's not a Board of Supervisors and the way that we've structured public engagement is that it is to occur in the public record in letters that are sent to the board and in the public hearing itself rather than as a series of individual communications that are undertaken outside of the public domain.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
So I can't support the bill today, but understand and appreciate what the author is trying to accomplish.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
Thank you. I was heading to budget but I'm gonna say because Aye, I actually thought it was a really good idea. I think it's a really good idea to have that information accessible. I had not considered the angle that Senator Kobalin had stated. But as pointed out in the digest area, Let's see.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
It says here, it encourages each board member, Trustee, and agent as applicable to consider public and stakeholder input provided to them regarding the matter to be presented at an open meeting of the board before voting on the matter that is at the open meeting. So and the the information on here so I sit on I'm I'm honored to serve on rules committee right now.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
And here, although it says requires the CC, the community college, the CSUs, and the UC to post an in a conspicuous location, a on the board's website, all of the following of each board member, trustee, and regent as applicable. Their name, a short biography, their email address used to conduct official business, their telephone number if one is assigned for conducting official business, and their mailing address used for conducting official business.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
You know, it's important because these these individuals, except as my colleague mentioned, community college who are elected, the rest are appointed primarily by the governor.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
On that end, the the Senate has the responsibility to confirm these individuals and be able to ask them questions and vet them before we appointment on on on those. But they are serving a huge university system, CSUs, and we do need to know and be able to have access to them, at least know who they are because they are the ones that are making decisions.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
And to have that simple information being made public for folks to know, I think it's it's reasonable to know who is being appointed and who is directing the universities and the CSUs. Making these decisions are impacting everybody's lives that are in in that in that space, in that world. And once again, it says here, it encourages each board member, trustee, and regent as applicable to consider public and stakeholder input.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
You're not mandating, but you're asking them to be able to consider it, which, if I'm being appointed, I would do my due diligence, not knowing everything that I know and in order to serve the public, in the best capacity possible. I think it's important for me to be engaged with my with my, constituents in order to best represent their needs and in in that capacity.
- Unidentified Speaker 006ID Pending
So I will be supporting the bill in this capacity, but I do appreciate my colleagues' knowledge and feedback this afternoon or morning. It's not afternoon yet, but morning.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Thank you, Senator Chobog, and apologies. We have budget going on right now and every single member that's here right now is currently on budget. So we're just doing a little bit of musical chairs. So, a couple of things. One, Assemblymember, I appreciate you bringing this bill forward.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Me and Senator Cabaldon, tend to agree a lot. We've worked with each other for many years in the higher ed spaces. This is a moment where we do disagree, on this bill because I I do think it's actually very important that we have access to the information to be able to contact, trustees, regents, and for folks to reach out as somebody that was a student advocate, as somebody that used to work at the Campaign for College Opportunity.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
It makes all the difference in the world, and you shouldn't have to be an insider in order to have access to that information. Now whether or not a trustee or a regent chooses to respond when you reach out to them is entirely up to them.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
And while the staffing issue is a very real issue, these are volunteer roles. I used to serve in the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority where I was appointed. I had no staff. There was no pay. But I was still a appointed board member representing members of the public, and I had a responsibility to respond if I wanted to respond.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
But that is also part of the role that I had, is being there as a representative. And the same goes for our trustees and our regents and our board of governor board of government BOG members is is for them to be good stewards and and to work in partnership with our education leaders and stakeholders, and to choose how they would like to manage those relationships, even if they are appointees of of the system. So I my recommendation is an aye vote.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
I support your bill, and I'll turn it over to you to close.
- Unidentified Speaker 004ID Pending
Thank you so much, madam chair, and thank you so much to all the senators, for your robust comments and insights as well. As mentioned, this bill would just simply increase transparency and make communication channels available to all stakeholders and promote greater equity and access. And as mentioned as well, this bill only requires a publication of institution assigned email address email addresses, institution assigned phone numbers if available, and mailing addresses used for official business. Personal contact info is not required to be disclosed.
- Unidentified Speaker 004ID Pending
And as mentioned as well, this does not establish any response requirements to the or timelines in terms of response.
- Unidentified Speaker 004ID Pending
This simply improves access to our governing Board Members. And with that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Great. Thank you so much. And, we have do we have a motion? We have a motion from Senator Gomez Reyes and the motion for that bill is do passed to the Senate Appropriations Committee. Secretary, can you call the roll?
- Unidentified Speaker 007ID Pending
Perez, aye. Ochoa Bog. Aye. Ochoa Bog, aye. Cabaldon Choy Cortese Gonzalez Reyes.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Alrighty. Yeah. So we'll go ahead and keep. Alrighty. So I see we have Assemblymember Erwin in the audience to present to for bills.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Assemblywoman, you may get started whenever you're ready.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Good morning, madam chair. I would like to begin by accepting the committee's amendments. I'm proud to present AB 1985 today, which will require athletic coaches at colleges and universities to complete a training on mental health awareness. This bill is named in honor of Sarah Schultz, a division one student athlete from my district who tragically died by suicide while enrolled at University of Wisconsin. College students across California are experiencing an acute mental health crisis.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
A national survey of over 84,000 students in 2025 found that thirty seven percent of students reported moderate to severe symptoms for depression. Nearly one third of students reported having moderate to severe anxiety, and one in ten reported thoughts of suicide. The stressors college athletes face are compounded by student athletes who face increased pressures relating to balancing their sport and studies. One that nearly all colleges and universities in California provide access to mental health services, more must be done to connect student athletes with these resources.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Athletic coaches can play a crucial role in the lives of students as mentors and role models, often spending extended periods of time with students outside the traditional academic environment.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
However, there is no requirement for call collegiate, coaches in California to be trained in mental health awareness. Experiences on and off the field provide various opportunities for appropriate mental health interventions where coaches can provide mental health first aid and hand off care to parents and mental health professionals. Equipped with the right tools, coaches can make a tremendous impact. AB 1985 will support coaches with the training they need to help our student athletes reduce mental health stigma and guide athletes toward help before problems escalate.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
With me in support is Sarah's mom, Bridgette Schultz, cofounder of the Shera Sault Schultz Foundation.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
Thank you. Chair and members of the Senate Education Committee, thank you for the opportunity to speak in support of AB 1985, also known as Sarah Schultz's Law. My name is Bridget Schultz, and my husband Scott and I are the parents of Sarah Schultz. Sarah grew up in Ventura County, California where she attended Oak Park High School before competing in Division I Cross country and track at the University of Wisconsin.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
More importantly, she was a daughter, a sister, and a friend who was deeply loved by her family.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
Sarah was loved beyond measure by us, her parents, and her two sisters, Abby and Ella. When we lost Sarah to suicide in April 2022 at the age of 21, our family was completely shocked. Like so many young people, Sarah appeared to have everything going for her. She was successful academically, socially, and athletically. We saw no apparent signs that she was struggling to the extent that she was.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
Yet after her death, we learned that Sarah had shared with her coach that she had experienced suicidal thoughts, And that realization has stayed with us every day since. In response, we created the Sarah Schultz Foundation to improve mental health awareness, suicide prevention, and support for student athletes. Through our work, we have heard a consistent message from coaches. They want to help, but often do not feel prepared.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
Research shows that only eighteen percent of coaches feel highly confident connecting athletes to mental health resources, while sixty seven percent want additional mental health and suicide prevention training.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
When student athletes leave home for college, parents must trust that the adults surrounding their children will recognize when they need help. Coaches may be the only adults interacting with athletes every day and are often the first to hear when an athlete is struggling. AB 1985 is a practical solution. It gives coaches the tools to recognize warning signs, respond appropriately, and connect athletes with professional help. It does not ask coaches to become therapists.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
It simply helps them know what to do when an athlete reach out. Our hope is simple, that no other family experiences the heartbreak ours has endured. If this training helps even one coach recognize an athlete in crisis and connect them with help before it is too late, it will make a difference. We respectfully ask for your aye vote on AB 1985. Thank you.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Thank you. Are there is there does anyone wish to register support of the bill, please? So please come forward and give your name and affiliation, if any, and your position on the bill.
- Unidentified Speaker 010ID Pending
Leo Barrows on behalf of California Hospital Association in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
Good morning. Tyler Aguilar on behalf of the University of California in support.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Clifton Wilson on behalf of the California State Association of Psychiatrists in support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 012ID Pending
Chloe King with Political Solutions on behalf of the American Academy of Pediatrics California in support and the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists in support. Thank
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
you. Alright. Thank you. Are there any lead witnesses in opposition? Does anyone wish to register their opposition?
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Seeing none, we'll return it to me. Assemblymember Erwin, would you like to close?
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Yeah. I Aye, you know, there is nothing worse that I can imagine than losing a child. And when Bridget came to us and and was trying to find some way to make sure that she turned her pain into making sure to help others. We thought for a few years about what exactly that would, look like and came to the agreement that, coaches having this type of knowledge would really be appropriate to work with athletes and and help on these mental health issues.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Because if we can prevent one athlete from taking their life, this is all worth it.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
And I just have to applaud you. I would not be able to come up here and and testify, but I'm so grateful that you're willing to support this bill all the way through and and support really very honored to have your partnership in this. So with that, I respectfully ask for your eye vote.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Alright. Thank you. And the and on behalf of the committee, thank you also for for for taking the time and the and the and the courage and the stamina to be able to to to be with us today. We don't have another member other than me here at the moment. When we when we do, we will play to place the motion before the committee.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
And that motion will be to pass as amended to the Appropriations Committee, which we should have any moment now. The Budget Committee, as I think the Chair already noted, the Budget Committee is meeting right now and most members of this committee serve concurrently. But we look forward to taking the bill up with a do pass recommendation when we return. Thank you so much. Alright.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
As our students become more reliant on technology every day, cybersecurity has become a basic life skill. Unfortunately, cyber threats that target our children and schools continue to grow. Identity theft, phishing scams, and other online attacks have serious lasting consequences for our students and families. In 2022 alone, cyber criminals launched more than 7,000,000 attacks on children through exploiting popular video games predominantly through phishing attempts. Schools themselves have also become the common target of cyber attacks, disrupting instruction, even forcing schools to temporarily suspend their operations.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
AB 2298 addresses this issue proactively by requiring the Instructional Quality Commission to consider adding cybersecurity skills to their next revision of standards. This bill would also require the IQC to consider including cybersecurity skills in its criteria for evaluating instructional materials. By teaching students to recognize cyber threats, we feel we can feel secure that we are preparing the next generation to navigate an increasingly digital world safely and responsibly.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
With me to testify in support of the bill today is Becca Kramer on behalf of the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
Thank you. Becca Kramer on behalf of the Electronic Frontier Foundation in strong support. AB 2298 supports young people by adding key cybersecurity fundamentals to California's recommended curriculum. This bill will help students stay safe online by teaching them how to protect their sensitive personal data from modern security threats and cyberattacks. For young people, the Internet is not just a source of entertainment.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
It is a space to explore identity whether by creating and sharing art, practicing religion, building community, or learning everyday life skills. It is also an on ramp for young people's civic engagement and understanding of the world with the majority of them reading the news online. For many young folks, and particularly those who lack support in their offline environments, the Internet is a critical lifeline to resources, community, and belonging. However, just like real life, the Internet is not without risks.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
Like all of us, young people are subject to identity theft, phishing scams, data breaches, and all sorts of other bad actors when they use the Internet.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
To counter these risks, many lawmakers around the world are seeking ways to ensure that kids are safe online, and young people are asking for education to help them navigate the digital space safely. Research consistently shows that equipping young people with digital literacy tools and open lines of communication is one of the most effective methods for ensuring the long term safety of youth online.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
Additionally, by learning how cyber attacks work and how to prevent or protect against them through privacy measures and other tools, students will learn how to protect themselves from the effects of the surveillance economy, the very business model that social media companies lean on that incentivizes them to keep young people online as much as possible. And that's where this bill comes in.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
AB 2298 supports our youth by giving them the knowledge they need to stay safe online as they explore online spaces, something that we all need to understand whether we're youth or adults.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
That's why we strongly support AB 2298. Thank you.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Alright. Does anyone wish to register their support of AB 2298?
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
Good morning. Ronak Dilami on behalf of Cal Chamber. We're also in support. Really wanna thank the assembly member for her long standing leadership on cybersecurity issues. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
Good morning. Naomi Padron on behalf the Computer and Communications Industry Association. We're pleased
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
George Kaventa on behalf of Mastercard in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 012ID Pending
McClain Rozanski with the Alameda County Office of Education in support. Isabelle Macon with the Silicon Valley Leadership Group in support. Chloe King with Political Solutions on behalf of the Business Software Alliance in support. Thank you.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Right. Are there any lead witnesses in opposition to AB 2298? Does anyone wish to register their opposition to the bill? Seeing none, we'll return it to the committee. Are there any questions or comments?
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Okay. Alright. I'm gonna support them. I'm generally a skeptic of all of our IQC recommendations. So we have a lot of them.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
I think even in this in this code section, we've added we've added, you know, one every other year and IQC has limited bandwidth. More importantly, teachers and kids have limited bandwidth. We can't so we can only add so much to the day. We can't make any more time out of it.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
And so one of the cute this this committee is focused a lot on assuring that we don't over we don't overprescribe and be the the big school board in the sky here in, in the in the in the greater capital.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
And and also that we understand that that simple exposure of content for kids rarely produces the outcomes that we think it does. Most of society is like, hey, if only every kid did this thing then in school then that problem would go away. This is a common trope in our in in in our in our curriculum reviews here. If we just expose them to this thing, it would then civic literacy, financial illiteracy, cyber attack, they would all just disappear. And of course that's not the case.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Education is not a placing of the hand on the forehead and then suddenly, young people at every age are suddenly immunized from every other challenge in society. This bill, honestly, if it were just based on the testimony, I don't know if I would be supportive of it. We're not we are affirmatively not trying to generate a policy a sense of policy and consumer behaviors by young people in in this in in a proposal here. The bill is very careful.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
It's it's very I was going to say it's careful, but it's just simple.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Just a cybersecurity period. It doesn't cover all the other issues of the digital space and the digital economy. It's not intended to upend corporate power, just beat the tech giants, all of which needs to be tackled too, but that's not the point of this bill. The point of this build is cybersecurity is an important literacy skill that we should be teaching how and the process of critical thinking in cybersecurity.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
It's not about the specific it's not about just cookies, it's not just about this, it's the way in which we think about security.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
I guess in some sense the only thing that I wish this that we were doing here was that it wasn't only embedded in the computer science curriculum. That is the right place in some ways, but obviously students choosing to study computer science aren't the only ones that and maybe they're the ones that need it the least compared to the broader student population. But yeah, for the narrow question of, yes, cybersecurity added to the same code section that includes AI and media literacy.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
This is a simple sensible approach and I'm going to support it today as well and I know that the Chair also has an eye recommendation on it. Any other questions or comments?
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Yeah. And, you know, I I do agree with you that we're trying to, really feed the students a lot of information, whether it is, as you mentioned, financial literacy or cybersecurity. But I have to say that that over the years, we've really focused on cybersecurity. In my district, I've done probably 30, seminars for seniors to to, to make sure they don't get scammed.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
And I know they're not going to pick up all of it, but if at least one of those seniors or one of those students understands that I shouldn't click on this link, it could make all the difference.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
So I think some exposure and hopefully a few things will will resonate and it could help it could help avoid cyber attacks. So, but you're right. It's a simple bill and but we just think it's important to do everything we can to expose young people to the dangers online. I I often hear, I often hear young people say, well, why should I worry about clicking on links?
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Or, you know, I have no money in the bank, and and they don't realize that that later on these attacks become much more sophisticated.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
And if they're just aware that, that people are trying to scam you all the time, I think that it could make a a big difference. So I I appreciate your, I certainly appreciate your perspective. We're hoping that, schools develop a robust program on this, but if just, if if just a few ideas come across, and absorb, I think that it could make a difference. So with that, I respectfully ask for your ask for your eye.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Thank you. And we're going to be depending on some of these eight year eighth graders to help to solve in addition to today's challenges, autonomous AI agents breaking through all of our cybersecurity defenses, Quantum computing. So we need that is you're absolutely right. We need to develop the the critical thinking and the skills more even more deeply than we than we've thought about in the past. So with that, we have a do we have a motion?
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
I move. Okay. Moved by Senator Cortez Cortezi. The motion is do passed to the Appropriations Committee. Would you please call the roll?
- Unidentified Speaker 007ID Pending
Senators Perez, Ochoa Bogue. Aye. Ochoa Bogue, aye. Cabaldin.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Thank you very much. If we can return to Senator Irwin's first bill, we did not have anyone other than a a a a presiding officer at the moment. AB 1985 which is item 21 on our calendar. Is there a motion on AB 1985? That's right.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Alright. It's been moved and the motion is do passed as amended to the Appropriations Committee. Would you please call the roll?
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Okay. Thank you, senators. And we will put that bill on call. Excellent. Thank you, Assemblymember Irwin. Next, I see we have Assemblymember Patel in the audience. You may begin whenever you're ready.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
There certainly are a lot of paper clips stacked up here. Everyone seems to leave their paper clips in a nice little pile. Thank you. Good afternoon. Or is it afternoon yet?
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
Good morning. Good afternoon as we're at the cusp of the hour. Madam Chair and Committee members, I am here to present AB 2008, and I want to begin by, stating that I do fully accept the Committee amendments. California's local education agencies face a growing number of planning and reporting requirements from both the State and Federal government. While transparency and accountability are important, these requirements come with significant opportunity cost.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
Recent research from getting down to the facts three estimates that compliance activities consume between 2.73 and $3,560,000,000 annually in California public schools. Every hour spent on unnecessary or duplicative reporting is time that cannot be spent educating students, supporting teachers, or school communities. Small and rural school districts particularly are affected because they must comply with the same requirements as large districts despite having fewer administrative resources. AB 2,008 takes a balanced approach that maintains transparency while reducing unnecessary administrative burden.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
The bill ensures that future planning reporting requirements do not remain in statute indefinitely unless policymakers intentionally decide that it should.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
It also establishes a standard grant reporting template that captures key information in a consistent format across programs. This standard template will make it easier for local educational agency staff to know what to expect when reporting, allow lawmakers to more easily compare outcomes between state grants. And notably, this bill does not include grants for LEAs to serve as technical assistance providers or LEAs as this type of grant may require more specialized reporting. Importantly, the bill preserves the legislature's ability to review and extend reporting requirements when warranted.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
This ensures that sunset provisions do not eliminate accountability, but rather create a deliberate ongoing check on whether each requirement continues to serve its intended purpose.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
The bill does not eliminate accountability. It makes accountability more efficient and more effective. AB 2,008 is a common sense modernization effort that balances accountability with practicality. The bill preserves transparency, improves efficiency, and helps ensure that educators can focus on student support and strategy planning rather than unnecessary compliance activities. This is a good government measure that respects both taxpayer accountability and the limited capacity of our schools.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
I respectfully ask your aye vote today. And with me today as witnesses to testify are the superintendent Diego Ochoa from San Mateo Foster City School District and superintendent principal Ani Larson of Dunham Elementary School. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
Good morning. My name is Diego Ochoa. I'm superintendent of the San Mateo Foster City School District. We serve 22 schools and over 12,000 students in our district. I'm vice president of the Association of California School Administrators, and I'm here to support assembly bill 208.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
The current burdens that our school leaders face are significant, fragmented, and pull administrators from supporting students, teachers, and the schools that they serve. Our school leaders understand accountability, and frankly, we support it. And we view it as a tool to achieve equity and excellence in our schools. And we think that Californians deserve to know how their public dollars are being spent and what kind of results are being produced for students. The challenge is that at present, reporting requirements are inconsistent, redundant, and tremendously time consuming.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
In my district alone this year, as one example, one of my school principals spent two days completing multiple redundant duplicative reports. And those were two days that she was unable to visit classrooms where the incredible and important work of increasing achievement for our multilingual learner students was at risk. She also missed meetings with instructional coaches and classroom teachers that would have been important for the development of our students. And the problem is that she wasn't alone.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
There were literally thousands of principals throughout the state having the same amount of time lost.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
So what we're asking in AB 2008 is for a practical and common sense solution that works for students. This bill will require CDE to develop a single and streamlined template for grant reporting, and we want it because we want smart and efficient accountability in our schools. This template's gonna help our school districts manage our competitive grants and report on those grants, and it'll save valuable time allowing you all, policymakers, to more easily compare information across these grant programs.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
Most importantly, our educators are going to be free to give better support to students, and the resources we have are going to have greater impact. So at a time when schools
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
the way down in Chula Vista, up through San Bernardino, even in West Sacramento, all the way up to Chico, are figuring out how to better serve students. We ask for you
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
and members of the committee, my name is Ani Larson, and I am the superintendent principal, and I always like to add Bobcat Chaser of Dunham School District and small rural TK six district in Sonoma County. I'm also the small district, Small School Districts Association Region one representative for Humboldt, Mendocino, and Sonoma County. It's important to note that nearly two thirds of our school districts here in California are small, which means that there's 2,500 or less students.
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
I would like to thank Assemblymember Patel for her leadership in authoring AB 2008, and I'd also like to underscore the comments of my colleague Superintendent Ochoa regarding the template. As a superintendent principal, my time is already incredibly constricted and when you consider I'm often just inserting the same information over and over, you can see how frustrating that can be.
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
I think we all would agree that time would be better spent with my students and families. Important piece of 2,008, the requirement that beginning in 2028, any bill requiring a plan or reports, including language repealing and planning or reporting requirement, four years after that operative date. Right now, we can be tied to these reports, what seems like forever. For example, I received funds through the educator effectiveness grant in 2021. And I want to thank you so much.
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
Every dollar in our small school districts is spent going towards our students. I believe that I completely expended our funds in the year 2223, and I had to report annually since then until the funds were expended as well as maintain expenditure plans. My final report is due September 2026. Let this let me repeat.
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
Those funds have long been utilized, but despite them being gone, I still have to do a report five years later and didn't spend any EGG funds because we no longer have any to spend.
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
I have no problem with accountability. In fact, I embrace it. Let's just make it appropriate accountability. AB 2,008 will create a more streamlined, effective process and align reporting requirements and safeguards with those already existing in other parts of state government. We'll be able to focus more on what really is important: our students, our staff, and our families.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Thank you for your presentations. We'll hear from Me Too's in support. If you could use the mic at the railing.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Thank you, madam chair, members, and staff. Mitch Steiger with CFT, a union of educators and classified professionals also in sport. Xavier Birchfield, on behalf of California IT and Education, in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 016ID Pending
Good morning. Harold Tollerup on behalf of the San Francisco Unified School District and the Santa Clara County Office of Education, in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 015ID Pending
Sarah Petrovski on behalf of the California Association of School Business Officials, proud cosponsors in support.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Dan Merwin on behalf of California School Boards Association, proud cosponsors in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 012ID Pending
Rachel Chiquin on behalf of the San Bernardino County District Advocates for Better Schools in support. LeAngela Reed on behalf of the School Employers Association of California in support. Thanks. On Iokomides on behalf of Los Angeles Unified School District in support. With the Riverside County Superintendent of Schools in strong support and also on behalf of San Diego Unified.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Good afternoon. Carlos Rojas representing the Kern County Superintendent of Schools in support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Great. Now do we have any witnesses in opposition? Seeing no one rising, I'll turn it back to the committee. Do we have any committee questions or comments? Senator Cabaldon?
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Thank you, madam chair. So my my questions are are I I understand the the the policy what you're what was what's happening here but the main question is around the sort of the the the constitutional prohibition against legislatures controlling their successors And so the language that's that originally came from a 2010 piece of legislation that says that every bill that that has in this case has a report in it of this type has to include this particular provision.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
And that is it's not unprecedented because there was this bill in 2010 that did that with respect to state agency reports, but it's largely unprecedented for the legislature by statute, not by joint rule of the legislature, which is completely subject to us and not the governor, to be declared to making a statutory requirement that a bill must include something or cannot include something.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
So that's a that's a it's a that's a pretty big deal to for the for the law that only the governor we can only change with the governor's consent to do something that we could do in the joint rules for example. And so I'm trying to understand the the way the bill is crafted it says and also like that that same bill from 2010 did the same thing to ledge counsel and this bill does that as well.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
It says, ledge counsel when they're drafting a bill or amendments must include this particular provision which is also a pretty for the statute to to get into the guts of ledge counsel to say what they can and cannot draft should be a very a very high standard. I'm just saying that it's barred in all instances, but that's a fairly high standard. On the Ledge Counsel Provision, your bill includes an unless the the requester directs otherwise.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
So there is a there's an out there so that if Senator if Senator Schwabaugh submits a a request and it has a study and a a report in it, the and let's counsel says, well, your draft includes this statute this mandated language. She can say, no, thank you.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
I wanna press forward anyway. And then when she gets to the the Assembly Education Committee, the chair of that committee can say, we don't, you know, what are you doing here? We we don't want that. So but the bill also then says that a bill that's introduced has to have that provision in it.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
So so the flexibility that is there for a legislator or the legislature to have ledge counsel draft a provision is then essentially overwritten by saying that the bill the bill can't be introduced or amended unless it has that and there's no out there.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
There's no there's no except if the rules committee says okay or anything. And so I'm just I'm I'm gonna support the bill today but I but I I I I've been wanna understand better why because I'm I'm to me, this is an important issue. It doesn't rise. I I'm not willing to give up my constitutional prerogative as a legislator to a a statute that can only be changed with the governor's consent over this issue though. I probably wouldn't have voted for the 2010, legislation either.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Recognize this is a novel question, probably hasn't come up in the process so far. So I'm going to support the bill today, but I would I think before I would be able to vote for it on the floor, I need to understand why that's so essential that it'd be so that it rise to that constitutional kind of status and to see if there are other ways to accomplish the same objective that may not pose the same kind of separation of powers problems. Thanks, madam chair.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Did you wanna respond to Assemblymember Patel? Yeah.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
Yeah. Yes, madam chair. To to Senator Cabaldon, I haven't heard this, piece of feedback before at this time. So I will certainly take that under advisement and and work with our sponsors to see whether there's a path forward that can accommodate and ensure that the legislature, retains its authority as a legislature. Thank you for bringing that.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Okay. Anyone else? I I think to, speak just a little bit to Senator Kabaldin's point and also to kind of understand Assemblymember Patele what you're trying to do with this bill. I think part of the reason why I even have the language referring to ledge counsel in there is because of the 2010 bill. So this is already kind of existing in statue that makes this requirement around ledge counsel, but your bill is seeking to kind of clean up that language.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
I can understand Senator Kibaldin's point and the concern in kind of restricting what Ledge Council can do, but I also see that you're just trying to amend what is existing law and existing statute to clean it up and create clarifying language, for our folks as they're working through these things. So I I think that there's something to, you know, be worked out there, but, we'll leave that, you know, to you to figure out my recommendations, and I vote.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
I support your bill, and I'll turn it over to you to close.
- Darshana Patel
Legislator
Thank you. With those comments, I do appreciate the robust, feedback and communication from the Senate. Really appreciate staff's work and your work, madam chair, on on amendments with this process and and getting our bill this prepared for a presentation here today. And with that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Unidentified Speaker 000ID Pending
Thank you. And, we have a motion from Senator Cortese, and the motion is do pass as amended to the Senate Appropriations Committee secretary. Can you call the roll?
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Senators Perez. Aye. Perez, aye. Ochoa Bogue. Aye.
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Ochoa Bogue, aye. Cabaldan. Cabaldan, aye. Choi, aye. Cortese?
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Great. And we'll put that bill back on call. Thank you so much.
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Assembly member Bauer Khan, you are up next with our final bill for the day AB 2212. That's Nobody won bills.
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I stand between you and lunch, so I will try to be fast.
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Thank you, Madam Chair and Senators. Today, I'm proud to present AB2212, the Higher Education AI Response, or HEAR Survivors Act. AB2212 updates the definition of sexual harassment in the post secondary education code to account for modern digital technologies and requires California's higher education institutions to develop policies addressing nonconsensual deepfakes, cyberstalking, cyberbullying, and other forms of tech facilitated sexual harassment. As the world has changed, our policies need to as well.
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Our campuses have, over the years, worked to have sexual harassment policies that meet every moment we are in and support students on campus.
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It is time that we update those policies to ensure that the harassment students may be experiencing online is included in those policies. By updating the definition of sexual harassment, this will promote consistent campus responses, reduce stigma about reporting online harassment, and reinforce the digital abuse is also a serious misconduct. We appreciate the committee staff's hard work on this bill and the conversations we've had. As the committee analysis suggests, our office is actively engaging with stakeholders to address the implementation concerns.
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With me today is Selena Mendez, undergraduate at UC Berkeley and the incoming External Affairs Vice President of UC Student Association.
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Good afternoon, chair and committee members. My name is Selena Mendez, and I'm an incoming senior at the University of California here on behalf of survivors and allies, the sponsor of AB 2212. As a newly elected external affairs vice president elected to advocate for student safety and equity, it is incredibly disheartening to say that I personally know so many friends and students in my immediate circle who have experienced sexual harassment and sexual violence. The reality on our campus is clear.
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Marginalized students are disproportionately prone to experiencing these harms.
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With the vast majority of student harassment now taking place online, the rapid rise and implementation of generative AI has dangerously expanded the boundaries of where and how sexual harassment occurs. Nowadays, so many people are forced to endure toxic, nonconsensual digital spaces. Students are targeted behind a screen receiving invasive messages like send me more nudes or do you sell pictures along with horrific threats against their families if they do not do what the perpetrator wants.
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Survivors and Allies research study found that nearly a fifth of California student survivors experience online harm, but that most of them never reached out to their institution for support because they didn't realize they could access resources. I know students who have felt so helpless that they ultimately deleted their social media, stopped talking to most of their friends, and completely isolated themselves.
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They never reached out for support because they were first generation college students who felt incredibly lucky just to be in college in the first place, leaving them with the crushing fear of who would even believe me. I care deeply about the well-being of our students, and it is my duty to advocate for an environment where all people, regardless of their background, are safe from psychological and systemic harms of AI facilitated abuse. Thank you.
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Thank you for your presentation. We'll hear from any other me too's in the audience. If you could please use the mic at the railing.
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Good afternoon. Carol Gonzalez on behalf of the Cal State Student Association in support. Thank you. Hi. Brooke Benetti with Kaiser Advocacy in support on behalf of the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
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Yes. Hi. Christina Kavanaugh, UC San Francisco Children's Hospital and UC Berkeley alumni, retiree, and volunteer. Thank you and support. Chloe King with Political Solutions on behalf of the California Commission on the Status of Women and Girls in Support.
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no one else, we'll turn it over to witnesses in opposition. Do we have any witnesses in opposition? Any me too's? Seeing no and rising, I'll turn it back to the committee. Do we have any questions or comments from committee members?
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We have a motion by Senator Choi. I will I support your bill, Assemblymember Bauer Kean, and my recommendation is an aye vote. I'll turn it over to you to close.
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Thank you. I just wanna thank our student for being here and giving voice to all the students and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
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So we have a motion by Senator Choi and the motion is do passed to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Secretary, can you call the roll?
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And we will put that the long call. Thank you so much.
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And we will put that the long call. Thank you so much.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
Alrighty. So we will do you wanna lift calls or should we wait? Okay. Awesome. Alrighty. We will wait for the other members to arrive so we can lift calls. Gonna go ahead and lift calls. Secretary, if you can lift the calls and let's go through the bills.
- Sasha Perez
Legislator
That bill is out 7-0. And we are done. That concludes the agenda for this meeting, and we are adjourned.
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