Senate Standing Committee on Education
- Josh Newman
Person
All right, the Senate Education Committee will come to order. Good morning. The Senate continues to welcome the public in person and via the teleconference service for individuals wishing to provide public comment. Today's participant number is 877-226-8216. That number is 877-226-8216 and the access code is 621-7161 again, that's 621-7161. We are holding our committee hearings here in the O Street building. I ask all members of the committee to be present here in room 2100 so we can establish a quorum and begin our hearing.
- Josh Newman
Person
Due to the length of today's agenda, I ask the testimony of main witnesses in support or opposition be limited to two people per side with two minutes for each witness. All others may add on as a me too and simply state your name, your organization and your position. We have 16 bills on today's agenda. Two bills are on consent. The bills on consent are item number 10, SB 413, and by Senator Bradford, and item number 11, SB 648, by Senator Dahle.
- Josh Newman
Person
I see we do not yet have a quorum, so we will start this committee as a subcommitee and welcome our first author, Senator Menjivar. Good morning. You are here to present SB 11. Please proceed when ready.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, chair. Good morning, everyone. First I want to - you're going to have me hear me for maybe 30 minutes, so get comfortable.
- Josh Newman
Person
We look forward to spending this time together.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
A big thank you first to the committee staff for their support with the analysis on my first bill here today, SB 11, so I will be accepting the committee's amendments. We all have heard about the workforce shortages across various sectors. One of those sectors are our universities working to address our student mental health crisis. SB 11 will work to meet the dire need for more mental health professionals in our CSUs to address our student's needs.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Specifically, this bill will create a mandatory ratio of one counselor per 1500 students, improve data collection on student mental health, and develop pathways into the mental health care workforce from the CSU. The short staffing of mental health service providers at the CSU has led to, at times, wait times on some campuses to range from four to eight weeks.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
The demand for accessible student mental health resources has only increased in recent years as students struggle with the economic, social, and psychological impacts of the pandemic and entrance into adulthood at levels we've never seen before. So, who better to be part of the solution for the workforce shortage than the very CSU students at these campuses?
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
To capture the importance of providing culturally competent care for students seeking services, SB 11 intends to incentivize CSU students to become mental health professionals and serve the very same population they are a part of. The CSU educates close to half a million students each year and trains the majority of California's essential workforce. Now, let's ensure we have that direct pipeline into increasing our much-needed mental health workforce.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
With me today to speak in support of this bill, I have Michael Lee-Chang, a student at Sacramento State, followed by Susan Chen, the chair of the California Faculty Association Counselors Committee and a counselor at San Francisco State.
- Josh Newman
Person
Welcome, Mr. Chang. Please proceed. Two minutes.
- Michael Lee-Chang
Person
Good morning, Chair Newman and Members of the Senate Education Committee. My name is Michael Lee-Chang, and I'm a first-year undergraduate student at Sac State, living on campus and receiving the Pell Grant. I'm proud to testify in support of SB 11, a bill that will increase the quality of mental health services I receive on my campus, my home, for the next three years. The counselor-to-student ratio at the campus I attend is one counselor per 2400 to 3500 students. Sorry, but that's insane.
- Michael Lee-Chang
Person
As a survivor of yearslong child abuse and sexual assault in my high school years, I waited almost two months for in-person counseling on campus that I paid for out of my student fees, which I can already barely afford. Two months. Now imagine if the circumstances were more dire, if I had no friends, no support system, if I were suicidal. And the long wait should not be blamed on my counselor either because she was working, fully booked, and over and beyond. Community care is quality care.
- Michael Lee-Chang
Person
I think it's often overlooked how crucial it is for students to get counseling from someone who looks like them, understands them, and, most importantly, understands the community they're in. If I'm going to Sac State in Sacramento, it makes a big difference that my counselor knows the campus and community. Someone from Nebraska won't understand what light the beam means, and someone from Hawaii won't understand walking across campus drenched due to bipolar weather.
- Michael Lee-Chang
Person
But also, someone from Montana won't understand the fear and anxiety Sac State students face right now due to the uptick of sexual assaults. Five just this semester, sorry, this year. And hate crimes on campus. The CSU is trying to pit students against faculty, but I stand firmly with the counselors on my campus that are doing their best to provide quality counseling services to their community.
- Michael Lee-Chang
Person
My negative experiences would be resolved if the CSU were required to meet the IACS recommended counselor ratio of one counselor per 1500 students. Please, I beg of you and the legislature to support, but also save even one life from the nearly 500,000 students on the 23 CSU campuses by voting aye on this important legislation. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next witness, please.
- Susan Chen
Person
Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Chair Newman and members of the Senate Education Committee. Thank you, Senator Menjivar. My name is Susan Chen, and I'm the chair of the California Faculty Association's Counselors Committee. I represent over 270 CSU counselors on 23 campuses, and I've been a tenured counselor faculty member for 13 years at San Francisco State.
- Susan Chen
Person
The California Faculty Association is proud to sponsor SB 11, a bill that will increase the quality of mental health services for our over 500,000 students, significantly reduce wait times for appointments, and create a pathway for students to become mental health counselors. Counselors contribute to student success in graduation. SB 11 will allow more students to benefit from the support and guidance that a caring counselor can provide.
- Susan Chen
Person
A major provision of SB 11 is to require all CSU campuses to meet the IACS - International Accreditation of Counseling Services - recommended ratio of one full-time equivalent counselor for every 1500 students, which would provide high-quality counseling for students who need it. When university counseling centers are understaffed, clinical work is often focused on triaging mental health emergencies and urgent situations. Students have to wait longer for initial and follow-up appointments.
- Susan Chen
Person
As counselors, we try to fit students into our packed schedules, which can lead to counselor burnout. Adequate staffing allows us to increase responsiveness to student needs, reduce wait times, and provide students with culturally competent care by diverse counselors who know our students in the context of their experiences. Meeting the ratio allows counselors to also form effective partnerships with the campus community, which is crucial to connect with greater numbers of traditionally underrepresented students who may not have experienced counseling before.
- Susan Chen
Person
Another important provision of SB 11 is investing in pathways that help CSU students to become mental health counselors by funding internship programs that lead to licensure. This will ease California's mental health workforce shortage and increase enrollment in these programs. I respectfully request that you support CSU's statewide counselors to better serve our students and vote aye on this important legislation. And thank you so much. I drove up from San Francisco today just to speak with you for a few minutes.
- Susan Chen
Person
I'm going to go back to work right now and thank you. So appreciate your support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you for being here. Is anybody else here in the committee room would like to testify on behalf of the bill? If so, please proceed to the microphone, your name, your organization, and your position.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Kimberly Rosenberger with SCIU: proud to co-sponsor.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Austin Webster
Person
Chair and Members, Austin Webster with W Strategies on behalf of the Faculty Association of California Community Colleges in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Ron Rapp
Person
Good morning, Mr. Chair and Members. Ron Rapp, Leg. Director for the California Faculty Association. We're proud sponsors of SB 11 and respectfully request your aye vote. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Robert Gonzalez
Person
Good morning, committee. I'm Robert Gonzalez, CSU student on behalf of the College Democrats at Sacramento State, in strong support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody else seeing none? We'll now move on to witnesses in opposition. Key witnesses in opposition. Seeing none. Is anybody here who would like to testify? Oh, please go ahead. And you have two minutes.
- Maggie White
Person
Wonderful. Thank you. Good morning. I'm Maggie White with the California State University. I'll be very brief. We currently do have an opposed position on the bill, but we'd like to sincerely thank the author and committee staff, and the sponsors for the proposed amendments and the analysis. These amendments remove many of our concerns from the bill that caused us to first oppose. We'll need to re-examine our position once that language is in print. We're very thankful for the collaboration to get to this point.
- Maggie White
Person
We look forward to continuing to engage with the author and sponsors to get us to a good place. Thank you very much for your time.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody else in opposition here? Let's move to the teleconference line. Mr. Moderator, if you would, please prompt anybody on the line to testify either in support for or in opposition to the bill. And anybody on the line, please state your name, your organization, and your position.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Participants from the public, if you would like to testify in support or opposition, please press one followed by zero. One followed by zero at this time. And we will begin with line 49. Please go ahead. 49. Go ahead and hit 1-0 again. I think you took yourself out of queue. And we'll go to line 42. Line 42.
- Catherine Jolly
Person
My name is Catherine Jolly. I'm a counselor at San Francisco State, and I strongly support SB 11. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And next we will go to line 37. Please go ahead. Please go ahead, 37. 37, you are open.
- Angel Marie
Person
Hi. My name is Angel Marie. I am a student at CSU Channel Islands, and I strongly support SB 11. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 52, please go ahead, 52, you are open. Line 52. Moving on. We'll go to line 45. Please go ahead.
- Annie Hao
Person
Hi. My name is Hao Ruth. I'm a counselor at Cal State Pomona, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 49, you are open.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 49, please go ahead. One more shot. 49.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
My name is Ronaldon, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Committee Moderator
Person
14. You are only on line 14.
- Nadeem Hasan
Person
Hi. My name is Nadeem Hasan. I'm a counselor at CSU San Jose State University, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 44, please go ahead.
- Justine Cansler
Person
Hello. My name is Justine Cansler. I am a student at CSU San Francisco, and I am here to speak in support of SB 11. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
53, please go ahead.
- Sylvia Hernandez
Person
Sylvia Hernandez with the National Association of Social Workers, California Chapter, and we are in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 26, please go ahead.
- Rhona Harrison
Person
My name is Rhona Harrison. I am a faculty counselor at Cal Poly Pomona, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
You are open. Line 24.
- Lideth Ortega-Villalobos
Person
Hello. My name is Lideth Ortega-Villalobos. I am a counselor at Cal Poly Pomona University, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 31, please go ahead. Line 31, you are open. Moving along. We'll go to line 72. Please go ahead. Line 72, would you like to testify? We will go to line 75. Please go ahead.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 75. Are you muted?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hello. My name is Alyssa. I'm a student at CSU Fresno, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 78, please go ahead.
- Yolanda Gamboa
Person
My name is Yolanda Gamboa, and I'm a counselor at San Francisco State University, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Next, please. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 59, you are open.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 59, please go ahead.
- Jenny Sanchez
Person
Hello.
- Josh Newman
Person
Hello. Please proceed.
- Jenny Sanchez
Person
My name is Jenny Ruiz Sanchez, and I'm a student at CSU Sacramento, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And I think we have one more. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 79, you are open.
- Mary Washington
Person
Good morning, Chair Newman and committee members: Mary Washington with the Cal State Student Association. With the committee amendments, we'll be able to remove our opposition to SB 11 and move to a neutral position. Really, thank you's to the committee staff and the author's office for working with us on that. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Moderator, any other callers on the teleconference line?
- Committee Moderator
Person
We have exhausted the queue. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
All right, thank you. Let's come back to the committee hearing room. Before we get to Members, let's establish a quorum. Madam Secretary, please call the role.
- Committee Secretary
Person
[Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
A quorum has been established. Senator Menjivar, thank you for accepting the Committee's recommended amendments. Members, any questions on the bill? Senator Glazer?
- Steven Glazer
Person
Well, first, I want to applaud Senator Menjivar for your focus and attention to what is a really important and critical issue on our campuses. So thank you. For your leadership on that. I've had the opportunity, both as a CSU trustee and as the chair of the Senate Select Committee on Student Success, to really focus on this counseling problem. We've had a number of hearings on the campuses to address it to university leadership and certainly with engagement with the counseling staff. And it is a problem.
- Steven Glazer
Person
And I recall during my time on the board of trustees where I asked the question, what's the average wait time for a student who is trying to see a counselor? And the answer was three weeks. And it was unacceptable then; it's unacceptable now. And I really appreciate what you're doing here. I want to just do two additional things. Clarify the amendments that you're taking -
- Steven Glazer
Person
- and it's my understanding and talking with Committee staff that based on the amendments, that in the analysis that you're still doing number one, but then the specifics on number two through number eight are all eliminated. And I just want to make sure that that's correct.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Yes. Related to contracting. All that has been eliminated.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Okay, terrific. So I'm happy to support your bill today. I know that one of the challenges, of course, is that when we mandate a ratio, there's no free money, and somebody has to pay for it. I appreciate that our Appropriations Committee and Budget Committee will take a look at that and make the judgment about how and whether the state's going to put more money in because if the state doesn't, the alternatives are student fees.
- Steven Glazer
Person
And I'm not sure we all would think that's the right way to fund it, either try to make the goals that you have identified in the fill.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
And I would agree with you.
- Steven Glazer
Person
I support with that. I'm happy to move the bill at appropriate time.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, Senator.
- Josh Newman
Person
Appreciate that. Any other comments or questions from members seeing? None. This bill is referred to health, and I'm sure you'll continue those conversations, particularly around the details around counseling. So, madam, I have a motion for Senator Glazer. Oh, and I'm sorry. Would you like to close?
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you so much, Chair, committee members. When I was a grad student, I was going through a tough time, and I sought out mental health. I went to an intake where I was left flooded, a term that is utilized when I don't have the time to process everything that I shared to the therapist. And I was left out of the office feeling even worse -
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
- when I walked in, they told me, well, the next time we can talk to you and see you would be in two months. So, on my way back to my grad class, I was very emotional. And it almost deterred me from going back and seeking mental health, but I did. But at a different place. A place that I would have had to drive out of school to look. But I needed mental health.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
So I respectfully ask, and aye vote here, for something that is crucial and needed for our students. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. I have a motion for Senator Glazer. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
SB 11 [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill is out 6--I'm sorry, I thought Ochoa Bogh was still here. Okay, we'll hold that open. Current vote is 6-0. Thank you, Senator Menjivar. Your next bill is SB 541. Please proceed when ready.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Hi, again.
- Josh Newman
Person
Hi.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I am now going to be talking about SB 541, and note that I will be accepting the amendments as described in the Committee analysis. Thank you again to the Committee consultant and team for working with my staff on that.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
SB 541 seeks to address the sexually transmitted infection epidemic among California youth and improve equitable public health outcomes statewide by expanding teen access to internal and external condoms in public high schools and create a no-wrong door for those looking to obtain the HPV vaccine. Specifically, SB 541 will expand access to condoms by requiring public high schools to make condoms readily available to students for free and post a visible notice of where students will be able to obtain them.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Two, it will bar high schools from prohibiting condom distributions in context of sex education and public health programs and initiatives. Third, it's going to prohibit pharmacists and retailers from asking for proof of age or ID when individuals are looking to purchase condoms. And finally, it's going to ensure that there is no wrong door for HPV vaccine access by requiring the Family PACT program to cover vaccine for young people ages 12 to 18, because currently it's available for those 19 and older.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
California, as I mentioned, is experiencing a public health crisis of STIs, and youth are disproportionately impacted. Nationwide, one-in-five individuals have contracted an STI, and of that, over 50% are those of ages between 15 and 24. With abstinence, as we all know, is the only 100% effective way to prevent an STI. We know some teens are still engaging in sexual activity whether we want them or not.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We just want to make sure when that teenager makes that personal decision that they have the resources available to stay safe. But right now, teens face multiple barriers to accessing condoms that deter them from seeking and securing the resources they need to protect themselves against STIs and unintended pregnancies. Common barriers include cost, accessibility, shame when they're looking to purchase, requirement of an ID, even though there is no legal requirement right now to ask for an ID when purchasing condoms.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Youth are often denied and turned away, and it's not deterring them from engaging in sexual behavior, it's just promoting unsafe sexual behavior. Providing condoms in school ensures we are meeting youth where they are at. That is why I am proud to say that SB 541 is a youth-driven bill, and we continue to listen to them as we move this bill forward. According to a survey conducted through the TeenSource program late last year, in December on Instagram, 55% of teen respondents agreed that more sexually active teens would use condoms if they were easier to obtain.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Another 60% agreed that it was the school's responsibility to provide this resource. And over half of the teen survey participants said that they believe that it is important for them to have access to condoms. This isn't a new phenomenon. There are current CAP programs across our State of California--CAPS, condom accessibility programs.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
They exist in the area that I represent, Los Angeles Unified District, Long Beach, San Francisco and Santa Monica, and they've started since the early 1990s. Lastly, to further provide protections, we must ensure youth ages 12 to 18 have access to the vaccine against the most common and leading STI. In the State of California you have to be 12 years and older to make your own personal decision without parental consent on decisions on STI treatment and reproductive procedures. This isn't changing the law regarding that.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
This is just allowing a no-wrong door at Family PACT programs. We are simply looking to help teens be as safe as possible if and when they decide to engage in sexual activity. To that, I'm here joined by two witnesses, Dr. Mara Decker, Associate Professor at Institute for Health Policy Studies, School of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, followed by Amy Moy, Co-CEO of Essential Access Health, one of the bill's co-sponsors.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And first witness, Dr. Decker. Please proceed.
- Mara Decker
Person
Good morning and thank you for having us today. As mentioned, my name is Mara Decker. I'm an Associate Professor at the University of California, focusing on adolescent sexual and reproductive health and positive youth development. I'm also the proud parent of two high school students. While California has seen a remarkable decline in teen pregnancies over the past decades, the rate of sexually transmitted infections, or STIs, among teens continue to rise.
- Mara Decker
Person
As mentioned previously, over half of sexually transmitted infections in the state are between those of 15 to 24, and about 60% of chlamydia cases are among teens. This is a highly infectious and preventable treatment infection and one of the most common STIs. It can lead to serious consequences if left untreated. Within California, certain regions have much higher rates of STIs, such as the Central Valley, and rates in rural areas are rapidly increasing.
- Mara Decker
Person
In addition, female adolescents who are Black have over four times the rate of chlamydia and nine times the rate of gonorrhea compared to their counterparts who are white or Latina. And young men who have unprotected sex with men are at an elevated risk for gonorrhea and other STIs. While abstinence is the only 100% effective way to prevent STIs, condoms can significantly reduce transmission. As mentioned, among teens who are sexually active, many face significant barriers to accessing condoms and other contraceptions.
- Mara Decker
Person
This includes stigma, judgmental providers, limited transportation and cost, among others. To address these barriers, schools and school-based health centers around the state have been providing free condoms for decades. In some cases, school districts have made it a requirement. For example, both Los Angeles County and San Francisco Unified have offered free condoms since 1992. Schools in Fresno County, San Mateo County and other regions also provide condoms to students through public health initiatives in partnership with community-based organizations.
- Mara Decker
Person
Studies have shown that school-based condom availability programs do not increase sexual activity, but can increase condom use among sexually active students. The STI epidemic among youth has reached a crisis point in the state and the nation, and we need to activate multiple strategies to respond--from prevention to testing and treatment. Schools are an important pathway to deliver key public health information and resources to youth who need them. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next witness, Ms. Moy.
- Amy Moy
Person
Good morning, Chairman Newman and Committee Members. My name is Amy Moy and I'm Co-CEO at Essential Access Health and also a proud parent of a teenager. Essential Access champions and promotes quality sexual and reproductive health care for all, and we're proud co-sponsors to be working with the Senator on this important measure, along with a youth-led advocacy group called GENup, Black Women for Wellness Action Project and URGE: Unite for Reproductive and Gender Equity.
- Amy Moy
Person
As you heard mentioned earlier, STI rates continue to climb and youth are disproportionately impacted, with LGBTQ+ youth and youth of color facing the brunt of the public health crisis and the most significant health inequities. SB 541, as the Senator mentioned, is a youth-informed and -driven policy solution that seeks to support youth health and well being and improve public health outcomes statewide through a number of interventions that the Senator outlined, including providing free condoms in school. Providing high school students with free condoms is a bold strategy, but as mentioned, it isn't new.
- Amy Moy
Person
There are schools and entire school districts across the state that have free condom availability, and Vermont was the first state in the nation to require condom distribution in schools statewide. And now it's time to level the playing field in California. We have to ensure that all students, regardless of where they live or go to school, have equitable access to resources that they need to remain healthy and safe.
- Amy Moy
Person
And now I have the honor of voicing the testimony of two youth leaders who are strong advocates in support of SB 541. The first youth leader is Sue Oh, a senior at Sunny Hills High School in Fullerton in Senate District 29, a Policy Co-Director at GENup. And Sue wanted me to share that SB 541 is a crucial step in destigmatizing the conversation about condoms and sexual health at schools.
- Amy Moy
Person
Providing free condoms at high schools will generate an atmosphere of nonjudgment and security and a feeling amongst students that our schools care for our well being and can be a place where we can go where we need help and information. And Isaiah, a 10th grader living in Antioch, in Senate District 7 and a Member of the Essential Access Health Teen Source Youth Advisory Board, shared that It's important to have condoms in schools because they add a sense of normalcy and reduce stigma around condom use.
- Amy Moy
Person
When kids are in school, we learn things that stick with us for the rest of our lives, and that should include how important and how vital condom use is for our health and safety. So for these reasons shared by California youth and the information shared recently, or previously, by the Senator and my fellow witness, we urge you to vote yes on SB 541, and we thank Senator Menjivar for her leadership.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Ms. Moy. Is there anybody here in the Committee room who'd like to testify in support of the bill? If so, please come forward and state your name, your organization, your position, please.
- Rand Martin
Person
Mr. Chair and Members, Rand Martin here on behalf of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation. HF, amongst many services, also provides STD prevention, control and treatment, and we're strongly in support of this bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Martin. Next please.
- Tristan Brown
Person
Morning, Chair and Members. Tristan Brown, Legislative Director of the CFT, a union of educators and classified professionals, here in support of the bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Next, please.
- Seth Bramble
Person
Good morning. Seth Bramble here on behalf of more than 300,000 educators, the members of the California Teachers Association, in strong support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you Mr. Bramble. Next, please. Seeing no more witnesses in the Committee room. Is there anybody here in the Committee room who'd like to testify in opposition to the measure? Welcome.
- Greg Burch
Person
My name is Greg Burch with the California Family Council. For the last decade or more, this legislative body has been pushing condoms as a solution to sexually transmitted infections spreading among our youth. And each time the infection rate rose, you insisted that kids just need easier access to condoms and information about safe sex at younger and younger ages. That was the whole argument surrounding the California Healthy Youth Act, passed in 2015, which mandated comprehensive sex education in every school district.
- Greg Burch
Person
And now you have an STI epidemic on your hands. According to the California Department of Health, STIs are at epidemic levels. A 2020 report showed a 320% increase in syphilis over the last 10 years. Gonorrhea is up 190%. How much do you really trust condoms to protect kids? Did you know that condoms don't protect people from all STIs, such as herpes, general warts, syphilis, and monkey pox, which can spread by skin-to-skin contact?
- Greg Burch
Person
Don't you think it's time to reassess your health policy on this issue? Don't you think it is time to tell young people the truth? That those with the most fulfilling and healthy sex lives are those who treat sex as a special and intimate act to be shared in a monogamous, committed marriage? I'm not encouraging you to shame people, but to uphold abstinence till marriage as a noble ideal. Something beautiful to pursue, not something to laugh at or mock at as unrealistic.
- Greg Burch
Person
Why not put together a messaging campaign for you to make marriage cool again? Honor it. Praise it. STIs cannot thrive in a culture that idealizes marriage. But you know where it does thrive? In a hookup culture, which you have more or less encouraged and created--where sex is meaningless and done for fun with multiple partners. I know it's hard to change course when you are so convinced you're doing the right thing. But ask yourself, how many young people are you willing to sacrifice? What STI infection rates are you willing to tolerate before you're willing to consider different options? I would suggest STI rates at epidemic levels is a divine signal that you are heading in the wrong direction. And I pray you hear the warning--heed the warning. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Burch. Anyone else here in the Committee room who'd like to testify in opposition to the bill? Seeing none. Let's go to the teleconference line. Mr. Moderator, if you could, please queue any witnesses online who would like to testify either in support or in opposition to this measure.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Participants from the public, if you would like to testify in support or opposition to SB 541, please press 1-0. One followed by zero. Mr. Chair, we'll begin with line 46.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hello, Denise ... on the behalf of California Coalition for Youth in support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 58, please go ahead. You are open.
- Roxanne Gould
Person
Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Members. Roxanne Gould, representing the American Nurses Association of California in strong support. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you, Ms. Gould. Next, please. Line 11, you are open.
- Sarah Kim
Person
Hello, this is Sarah Kim. On behalf of Traditional Biblical Values for the next generation in strong opposition. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, please. Line 25, please go ahead. Line 25, are you muted? Line 25, please go ahead. Moving along. Line 61, please go ahead.
- Molly Robeson
Person
Good morning. Good morning. Sorry. Molly Robeson with Planned Parenthood affiliates of California. We're in strong support. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you, Ms. Robeson. Next, please. 83, you are open. Plan 83.
- Betty Toto
Person
Yes, hello, this is Betty Toto calling from Medicare for Everyone Everywhere, and we are in strong support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, please. Line 85, please go ahead.
- Lori Osorio
Person
Hi, Lori Osorio here, parent of teens and upcoming teens in strong support of SB 541. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, please. 86, you are open.
- Onyemma Obiekea
Person
Good morning, Chair. I am Onyemma C. Obiekea with a Black Women for Wellness Action Project. Proud co-sponsors of SB 541 in support. I'd also like to register the support of Jen Up, our fellow co-sponsors, as well as Naral Pro Choice California, who are supporters of this Bill. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, please. Line 95, please go ahead.
- Sophia Lori
Person
Hi, this is Sophia Lori with California Family Council, and I'm in opposition to this Bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please. And Mr. Chair, there are no other participants queued up. Very good. We'll bring it back to the Committee hearing room. Any Members wishing to comment or ask a question on the Bill? Seeing none. Senator Menjivar, would you like to close?
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I was ready for a battle here. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
You obviously did a very good job. I'll just say I respectfully appreciate that. I've got a motion from Senator Glazer. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item two, SB 541, Menjivar. Motion is do pass as amended. But first, amend and re-refer to the Committee on Health. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
Current vote count is four to one. We will leave it open. Let's move to our next in the Menjivar trilogy, as I like to call it, SB 635.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I wear comfortable shoes for today. Chair and Members, the last bill I'm here to present today is SB 635. California has taken the lead in supporting children and families, and I commend the legislators before my time for their work in this space. In 2019, legislation was passed to ensure that MediCal beneficiaries ages three could access early periodic screening and services.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Despite this, a 2022 report by the California Budget and Policy Center found that California lags in providing these screenings with a rate of only 26%. And let's not forget to take into account that the racial and economic disparities that continue to exist for our black and Latino communities and children. So SB 635 is looking to add on to previous work and provide tens of thousands of children ages zero to five with access to early childhood developmental screening and other appropriate developmental screenings.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Children who are currently being served in subsidized childcare programs would be benefiting from this bill. We are expanding the age from 03 to 05 and leveraging the existing framework that exists through subsidized childcare programs.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Specifically, this bill is looking to direct old subsidized childcare programs such as alternative payment, General childcare, CalWORKS and family childcare, home education network, California state preschools, and home visiting programs to screen all children following parental consent with an ages and stages screening for children zero to 52; it's ensuring that children ages zero to five who need additional services after screening are referred for further assessment and other services at no cost to the parent for intervention.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Third, it would direct the California Department of Education and Social Services to set up a centralized billing point to draw down federal funding to pay the subsidized childcare programs for providing the screening. And finally, it's going to direct the California Department of Education and Social Services to work with Department of Healthcare Services, Department of Developmental Services, and the Office of the Surgeon General to establish processes to ensure identified children are receiving needed intervention services in a timely manner.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Many children with developmental delays or behavioral concerns are not identified as early as possible; my niece, an example, delaying their access to help in social and educational settings. We all know that the early ages of a child's lives are pivotal points for future success, and these screenings and early interventional programs offered during these early stages promote the growth and prosperity of youth, families, and communities.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Additionally, an early childhood technical center report found that in the past year, 36 of families above low income reported that their child had received a screening had received a screening, but that's compared to 27.2% of low-income families. I mentioned my niece. I'm the tia or aunt of my niece with developmental delays whose parents weren't aware of all the available resources available until a later point in her life.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
This bill intends to support families in getting connected to the various options available to better support their children's development; we have the opportunity to leverage existing current frameworks and provide access to children and families that are served in subsidized childcare programs who are generally not receiving developmental screenings and are not connected to the managed healthcare provider or pediatrician.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
So here with me today to testify on behalf of SB 635 is Dr. Lawanda Wesley, a Government Relations Director with the Childcare Resource Center and a proud co-sponsor. And second, Valerie Denero, Executive Director of Policy and Education EveryChild California and an additional co-sponsor.
- Josh Newman
Person
Welcome, Dr. Weasley. Please proceed. You have two minutes.
- Lawanda Wesley
Person
Greetings, Chair Newman and members of the committee. I am Dr. Lawanda Wesley, the Director of Government Relations with Childcare Resource Center. Childcare Resource Center is the largest childcare family resource nonprofit in California, serving 50,000 children in both San Bernardino County and northern Los Angeles. As said earlier. Thank you, Senator Menjivar. There is a great need for developmental screenings starting at. Senator Menjivar, you already mentioned a number of the facts, but what I'll tell you what the research says.
- Lawanda Wesley
Person
Research tells us that children's brains develop faster in the first five years than any other time in their lives. In fact, in the first five years of life, more than 1 million neural connections are formed every second, and early developmental screening is our best friend and our tool to provide timely prevention and intervention support when those connections are fragile or in jeopardy. There are no do overs for the given age of a child at a given point in time.
- Lawanda Wesley
Person
Remember, in the first years of life, there are 1 million neural connections that impact cognitive and social and physical development, and it happens every second as children go and develop. They will never be one again. They will never be three again. They will never be five again. So every care and attention to their development needs should be treated like a delicate butterfly in the life cycle. Butterflies have four stages of development that are distinctly different from the other, yet it builds upon one stage after another.
- Lawanda Wesley
Person
This is also important for the human developing child. As mentioned and what I will report from the Center for Disease Control, one in six children ages 3 to 17 have one or more developmental or behavioral disabilities, such as autism, a learning disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Many children with developmental disabilities are not identified until they are in school, by which time significant delays may have occurred, and opportunities for treatment may have been missed altogether. This disproportionately affects black and brown children -
- Lawanda Wesley
Person
- as mentioned earlier. Childcare is a familiar and natural trusted partner for families. It is a known place to access services located in the backyard of their local community. Childcare centers are partners who are already copartnering with parents to support a whole child, a whole family system, childcare.
- Josh Newman
Person
Sorry to ask you to expedite your testimony.
- Lawanda Wesley
Person
Yes, I will. Okay. And what I just want to say in closing, I was a former preschool teacher and former preschool administrator, and I saw up close personal what divisional screenings have done for children. I also was a mother who relied on subsidies such as MediCal, Cal Fresh, and all of those things. And as a single mother of five, I was able to access those services for my children in the childcare center. And now two are engineers.
- Lawanda Wesley
Person
And so you can see the impact of having early detection and screening that has on the trajectory of children for a lifetime to come. So, I ask respectfully for your aye vote on SB 635 and what it can do for children's lives.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And Ms. Denero, welcome. Please proceed again. If you could limit your testimony to approximately two minutes.
- Valerie Denero
Person
Yeah, definitely. Good morning. Greetings, Chair Newman and members of the committee. I'm Valerie Denero, Director of Public Policy and Education with EveryChild California. EveryChild California is an Association of leaders advancing early learning. This year, we celebrate 80 years of inspiring, educating and educating leaders of early learning and care programs for children birth to age 12.
- Valerie Denero
Person
We advocate for programs across the state by supporting the development of the child's social, emotional, and intellectual well-being, all while in a safe and high-quality learning environment. We represent over 15,000 sessionals who operate state-subsidized programs and are committed to the success of children and families across every community in California. As was stated before, we thank you, Senator Menjivar, for authoring SB 35 and the early developmental screening Bill. EveryChild California, along with Childcare Resource Center and First 5 California, are proud co-sponsors.
- Valerie Denero
Person
I echo the comments that were already made by Lawanda Wesley and Senator Menjivar. I will share my own personal story that I have worked in the field of early care and education for over 25 years. In my many years in direct service, I had the pleasure of overseeing 20-plus state-subsidized programs blended with Early Head Start funding, and I experienced firsthand the benefits of using the ASQ screening tool as a first step in evaluating a child's development.
- Valerie Denero
Person
The parent-friendly tool allows programs to bring awareness to potential delays and empowers early educators and parents to integrate early intervention strategies and services to address identified delays prior to entry into elementary education. Both of my boys attended a First 5 when they were age four and were both screened utilizing the ASQ screening tool. My oldest son showed developmental delay, and he was referred to the special education department at our local school district, where he received high-quality intervention services.
- Valerie Denero
Person
And by the time he entered kindergarten, my son was at grade level, and he has thrived in his educational experience. He is now a sophomore in college. And I'm grateful for the early intervention services he received. Thank you again, Senator Menjivar, for authoring SB 635, for recognizing the need for early intervention services and the critical support services in their most critical time of development. Investing in early childhood education is investing our future.
- Valerie Denero
Person
And thank you to the Senate Education Committee for allowing me to come before you in support of 635 on behalf of California children and families, and I ask you for an aye vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
And I thank you. Is there anybody here in the community hearing would like to testify in support? Please proceed with your name, your organization, and your position. Thank you.
- Nicole Wordelman
Person
Good morning, Mr. Chair and Members. Nicole Wordelman, on behalf of The Children's Partnership and support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Melissa Cortez-Roth
Person
Thank you. Melissa Cortez, on behalf of Autism Speaks and the Center for Autism and Related Disorders and support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Justina Erpelding
Person
Good morning. Justina Erpelding with EveryChild California, a proud co-sponsor and supporter.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Let's move on to witnesses and oppositions. Anybody here in the committee room would like testify in opposition to the measure, SB 635. Seeing none, let's go to the teleconference. Ms. Moderator. If you could please queue any participants you'd like to testify in support of or in opposition to SB 635. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Mr. Chair. If you are participating in the public, if you are in support or in opposition to SB 635, please press 1-0,1-0. Line 102, you are open.
- Kirstyn Chun
Person
Hello, this is Kirstyn Chun, counselor and faculty from Cal State Long Beach. I'd like to say I'm in support of SB 11. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 36, please. Go ahead.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Go ahead. Line 53.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
On behalf of Loma Linda University Children's Hospital in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Sylvia Hernandez
Person
Sylvia Hernandez with the National Association of Social Workers California Chapter. And we are in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 61, you are open.
- Molly Robson
Person
Good morning. Molly Robson with Planned Parenthood Affiliates of California. We are in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Ms. Robeson. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
83, please. Go ahead.
- Betty Doumas-Toto
Person
Betty Toto with Medicare for All Everywhere, in full support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 105, please. Go ahead.
- Jacqueline Mayrand
Person
Good morning. My name is Jacqueline Mayrand. I'm a counselor at the Cal Poly Humboldt, and I strongly support SB 11.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody else on the line?
- Committee Moderator
Person
Not at this time, Mr. Chair.
- Josh Newman
Person
All right. Thank you. Let's bring it back to the committee hearing room. Members, any questions or comments on the bill?
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair. As the mother of two children who went through that process of not having detection and having to do it at the, I think someone mentioned in the middle school level, I am really appreciative of this bill and what it will mean for parents to have a vehicle for understanding what's happening with their child when they first detect it and to make that accessible. So, I want to move for a vote on this important piece of legislation.
- Josh Newman
Person
I appreciate it, Senator Cortese.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a question for the author. I am supportive of the bill, so you have my vote. I'm just curious about the screening information being reported. I kind of want to say up to CDE and DSS at the state level as opposed to distributing it or forwarding it along to the 58 counties and their local Department of Social Services offices; it just strikes me that they're working hand in hand with local county offices of education. They obviously run the local services and fund them.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
And I don't know if that's come up in the authorship of the bill at this point.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Senator, It has not. And I don't know if my witness... because it hasn't come up at all. No.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
I'd appreciate maybe offline.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
All right.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Absolutely. We can definitely do.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
I certainly talked to my staff about it, and they might check in with your office. It's more, again, having, like so many of us, worked in local government for a number of years and seen firsthand sort of the deployment and pass-through of this kind of work, especially on the county side, that it might be useful to clarify that. But thank you very much, and I appreciate the bill. And again, I'll be supporting it.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, sir.
- Josh Newman
Person
Senator Glazer.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Thank you. I certainly am supportive of these screening activities. So, bravo for advancing and having this conversation. The only issue that I'm still trying to figure out and could use your help on is we typically don't identify in a state legislative measure a specific vendor that might be the only exclusive agent for whatever the policy is we're advancing. So is the Ages and Stages Questionnaire: is that a for-profit company? Is that a nonprofit company?
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
And Senator, I will say we are working with stakeholders to expand that for agencies to utilize a validated screening of their choice. So, we will be adding some language to that, but yes.
- Steven Glazer
Person
That certainly makes me comfortable with the bill. So thank you for sharing that. And just to go back to my question, do you know if Ages and Stages: is that a private company? Is that a nonprofit?
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Is it private or nonprofit? Private.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Yeah. So I think that's the big caution flag there is that I only know positive things, so nothing negative to say about their work. And it's certainly cited in many reputable places for the value it brings, but it's just not a good practice, I think, to identify one specific company versus the general screening obligation. So appreciate that.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you, Senator. But we do commit to expanding that list. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
I'll just say that I do share Senator Glazer's concern, but otherwise. Glad to support the bill. If you'd like to close.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
No, I appreciate the Members for the question. And Senator Cortez, we will talk offline. Senator Glazer and Chair, I do commit to adding an expansion because, yes, we don't want to exclude other vendors and be explicit to one. So, all I want to say to that in closing is I think I ask my colleagues to support children and families like my family by improving access to these developmental screenings through SB 635. And respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And I think we had a motion from Senator Smallwood-Cuevas. That's the motion. Madam Secretary, please call the roll file.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Item three, SB 635. Menjivar's motion is do passed but first, be first re-referred to the Committee on Human Services. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
All right, the measure currently has five votes. We'll leave it open. Thank you, Senator Menjivar.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Have a great rest of your day.
- Josh Newman
Person
You, too. We're going to go a little bit, I guess, a little bit out of order here. And so we are going to Senator Portantino. Welcome, sir. And before we do that. Yes, let's do the consent calendar. And we've got a motion for Senator Glazer. Madam Secretary, please call the role on the consent calendar.
- Committee Secretary
Person
On the consent calendar, SB 413 and SB 648. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
We will leave that open as well. Senator Portantino, welcome. And you are starting with which measure?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
691, if I may?
- Josh Newman
Person
Very good. Please proceed.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And Members, today I'm presenting SB 691, which requires all students in California to be screened for the risk of dyslexia. In early elementary years. I should remind my colleagues that this Bill actually passed the Senate on consent last year with 39 aye votes on consent. And I believe there are 33 co-authors of this bipartisan, important measure to help our children. I think we should begin with research and science.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
There's an overwhelming body of research that says early detection of learning disabilities allows for early intervention, which allows children to do better. And fundamentally, that's what this Bill does. It follows the science and research and uses neuroscience because we know if we help a young child earlier in their journey, we're going to be more successful. If we wait, it becomes four times more difficult and the problem becomes harder to solve. So all of the science leads us to this point.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
The other thing, and I know folks are going to ask a very, very important question, and I support the question, what is the impact on English learners? Well, I think it's also important to know that under the current system, only 12% of English learners are at proficiency and 64% are in the lowest performing quartile. So that's the current system, and that's one of the problems we're trying to solve. Again, there's a huge social injustice with the current system.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
If you're a suburban parent, you have your pediatrician on speed dial, and 15 minutes into first grade, you have that child before the pediatrician to get intervention. There's a lot of hardworking families out there that just don't have that ability and don't have that connection. And that's why this writes, a significant social injustice. There's a study out of Texas that has anywhere from 50% to 70% of inmates in a particular prison are dyslexic. Again, we need to do better for our children.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
So what are we asking to do? We're asking to do what 40 other states are doing. Well, 40 other states are screening in those early elementary years. And guess what? By knowing what the problems are, they're helping their kids get the reading care that they need and deserve. And another issue you're going to hear is, will we over identify or over classify children as special ed?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Frankly, that's a problem we're trying to correct with this Bill, because by accurately reflecting who has a reading challenge, we're going to get that student the help they need. So later on, they don't get misclassified as special education. So the very question that's going to be raised is the right question. And the very answer that this Bill provides is the right answer. So we're going to get kids identified. Again, we're not diagnosing them as dyslexic.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
With this 15 minutes screening tool, we're seeing who might be in a path to have a reading challenge so we can then get them the reading intervention. And then finally, it is the role of the education institution of the school, of the teacher of that school, to teach our kids how to read. That's a fundamental responsibility of the school. We should have the tools to help them provide the reading care that our young people deserve.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And so that's what we're trying to do here, a 15 minutes or less quick assessment that will help identify a problem so we can give that child the care that they need and, frankly, that they deserve. We are also put significant safeguards in the Bill with cultural competency and linguistic specialty, and we're deferential to that problem and that concern. There's a research out of Stanford and the Cal State that creates guidelines for why this is important.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
We're using that research, and many of the provisions and suggestions in that research are incorporated in this Bill. So I would submit that this is a science-based, research-based, evidence-based, successful effort to identify a problem and have a prudent path to help that kid thrive and excel. And so with that, we have a ton. And I went off script, so apologize. Let me go to my last page. We have Megan Potente from Decoding Dyslexia, who was the sponsor of the Bill.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
We have EdVoice here. We have Maria Diaz Ortiz, who is the grandmother of a student with dyslexia and an English learning language. I believe that our phone line person from at t may not be bilingual. We have a number of Spanish-speaking folks who are going to call in, so hopefully we can have some sensitivity as we navigate the phone lines on that particular issue. But we have a cadre of people who are passionate about dyslexia.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I should also submit for the record that I happen to be a dyslexic, and my single mom didn't find out till I was in the 8th grade. By then, it was too difficult for me. That's why I became a politician. And I tell people there's only 120 slots in the Legislature that's not going to meet the demands of our dyslexic population out there. And so we have to do better.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
But there my mother was with me in the 8th grade, finding out that, imagine this, I was ADHD. Can you believe that? Exactly. And I will say that Mr. Wilk is a proud co-author of this Bill. As principal co-author of this Bill. And his mother-in-law supports the Bill as well. Because I can't talk about Mr. Wilk without talking about his mother-in-law, because she gets a good kick out of that, and I'm her favorite politician.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Mr. Wilk just reminded me again, I believe there are 33 co-authors. This is a bipartisan, important Bill to write a social injustice, help kids learn how to read. And we need to pass this Bill and get it signed by the Governor. So with that, we'll go to our. You're close. That's awesome.
- Josh Newman
Person
That's not. My condolences. My condolences to your mom. So, first witness, Ms. Potente, please welcome. And if you could keep your comments of two minutes, we'd be grateful.
- Megan Potente
Person
Good morning, Chair, Members of the Committee. My name is Megan Potente. I'm the State Director for Decoding Dyslexia California. We are a 100% grassroots, volunteer-based movement made up of parents and teachers, and other professionals. I'm also a 20-year educator and parent of a child with dyslexia. According to CDE, one of the greatest contributing factors to low reading achievement is lack of early and accurate identification of risk for dyslexia.
- Megan Potente
Person
SB 691 would address this problem because it will help teachers recognize kids who need extra support before they fall behind. I have a 14-year-old son as well as a brother with dyslexia, and their ages spanned decades. Yet their experiences in school were identical. They both were not identified early. They both were left to struggle when they could have received evidence-based instruction in their general education classrooms that would have closed the gap so they could have learned to read with much greater ease.
- Megan Potente
Person
My brother's experience in the 1970s may have been understandable. The science was not clear then, but the science is clear now. We now know the early risk indicators that are highly predictive and can be easily measured using brief, cost effective screening instruments. As a first grade teacher, I would have welcomed these tools. They would have made my job easier. The most impactful window of time for literacy development is before age eight, and with targeted instruction, children with dyslexia can become proficient readers.
- Megan Potente
Person
As the Senator said, 40 states already require =K-12 universal screening in California. Many don't know that the only required dyslexia screening happens in federal prison. Even though we know identifying risk early is a critical step in solving the school-to-prison pipeline, SB 691 would ensure we screen to intervene at the beginning of the road when children have a lifetime of opportunity and learning ahead of them. Please vote yes. I know SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next witness, Ms. Diaz Ortiz, welcome.
- Maria Diaz Ortiz
Person
Interpreter yes. Buenos dias distinguido miembros, m nombre es Maria Diaz Ortiz, madre de Jocelyn good morning. My name is Maria Ortiz and I have here my daughter with me and Jocelyn. Jocelyn. Identification Jocelyn was not identified with dyslexia until the fifth grade, but she struggled with reading and writing from the very start of school. Notification I notified the school of my concerns when she was in first grade and teachers told me not to worry.
- Maria Diaz Ortiz
Person
They said that the reading problems were due because she had not achieved proficiency in English as she was an English learner. Esto retrasó la identificación de los primeros signos de su dislexia y provocó años de lucha innecesaria y dolor emocional. This delayed the identification of early signs of her dyslexia and caused years of unnecessary struggle and emotional pain. Debido a sus dificultades para leer y escribir, mi hija se puso nerviosa, ansiosa, se mordía las uñas y, a veces, vomitaba. Because of her struggles to read and write, my daughter became nervous, anxious, biting her nails, and sometimes vomiting.
- Maria Diaz Ortiz
Person
I keep fighting for the support, and it wasn't until fifth grade that I was finally able to get her the appropriate literacy instructions she needed. If her difficult kids with reading had been identified early and she had received adequate help during the appropriate time when all the children are learning to read, maybe she would have not needed special education services.
- Maria Diaz Ortiz
Person
Si no hubiera sido por todos mis esfuerzos como padre, mi hija habría seguido fracasando académicamente y sufriendo emocionalmente. If it hadn't been for all my efforts as a parent, my daughter would have continued to fail academically and suffer emotionally. No estoy aquí tanto por mi hija, sino por todos los niños que no tienen padres que puedan luchar y defenderlos. Mi hija y todos los demás niños del estado tienen derecho a una educación adecuada y digna. I am here not so much for my daughter, but for all the children who do not have parents who can fight and advocate for them. My daughter and all the other children in the state have the right to an appropriate and dignified education.
- Maria Diaz Ortiz
Person
Ms. Perencia Comey, Hamienjevada Travah Voluntarian my experiences with my daughter have led me to volunteer in my school district dyslexia work group También organicé Padres, los padres de Highland Park de Highland Park, un grupo vecinal para apoyar a los padres de estudiantes con necesidades especiales., I also organized Padres, the Highland Park Parents of Highland Park, a neighborhood group to support parents of students with special needs. Necesitamos soporte para SB 691, por favor. Porque la identificación temprana del riesgo de dislexia es crucial para todos los estudiantes. Es justicia académica.We need SB 691 supported, please. Because early identification of risk of dyslexia is crucial for all students. It is academic justice.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you. Boten C Allies. Please vote yes to SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next. Is anybody else here in the Committee room would like to testify on behalf of SB 691?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Members. Mr. Chair, the CFT actually has a supportive, amended position. Wonder if I can have your indulgence for 10 seconds to explain on that.
- Josh Newman
Person
Look at these people about to come after you, Mr. Brown. But, yes, I think they'll give you 10 seconds.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Yes, we are very supportive of the intent of this Bill. We think it's a worthy cause. We want to make sure the implementation is just right.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And so we're asking for more stakeholder input of educators as this is built up so that practitioners in the field, as the ones you just heard, can help make sure that it's done correctly. So we have some concerns that we'll submit in a letter, and the author's office and sponsors have been amazing to work with us. We appreciate their help, and we'll knock this out of the park. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate that Senator Portantino. Next, please.
- Natasha Minsker
Person
Natasha Minsker, on behalf of Smart Justice California, the Prosecutors Alliance of California, and the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, also on behalf of my brother who was diagnosed with dyslexia at age three because my parents have the pediatrician on speed dial.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Jocelyn Chores
Person
Hi, my name is Jocelyn Chores and I'm a student and I have dyslexia, so I support SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, and thank you for being here. Next, please.
- Laura Babbitt
Person
Good morning, my name is Laura Babbitt. I am the President of the Berkeley Unified School District, and I am here asking for your support for SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Lori DePole
Person
Lori DePole, Co-State Director of Decoding Dyslexia California and a juvenile court-appointed education rights holder for a foster youth with dyslexia. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, thank you. Next, please.
- Amy De La Salle
Person
Amy De La Salle, parent in support of 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Brighton Simmons
Person
Brighton Simmons, in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Finley Simmons
Person
Finley Simmons in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Simmons family. Next, please.
- McEntire Unknown
Person
McEntire, proud mother, in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please. Thank you. Next, please.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Aaron Peth
Person
Hi, I'm Aaron Peth from Sacramento. I'm here in my personal capacity on behalf of both of my children who in the last 18 months have been diagnosed or identified as dyslexic. Vivian, who is 10, and my son Brendan, who is seven. Both of them didn't want to miss school today, which tells you how much the intervention is helping them. So I strongly support the Bill and I would ask for your. aye vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Ms. Peth. Next, please.
- Brianna Kolmikov
Person
Hello, my name is Brianna Kolmikov. I'm here on behalf of both of my children who are diagnosed through private services as dyslexic, and my brother, who was diagnosed back in 1981 in support of this Bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Heather Martin
Person
Hi, my name is Heather Martin. I'm the parent of a dyslexic daughter. I'm also a regional leader for decoding dyslexia California, and a Member of Mount Diablo's community Advisory Committee. I strongly encourage you to support the Bill. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Ms. Martin. Next, please.
- Rachel Levy
Person
Hi, good morning. I'm Rachel Del Carlo Levy. I'm a Regional Leader for decoding dyslexia. Resident of Clayton. I'm also dyslexic myself and a parent of a dyslexic student and also with Mount Diablo Unified School District for their community advisory council. And I also help lead a dyslexia subcommittee of parents, and I'm here in support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Gregory Cramer
Person
Good morning, Mr. Chair and Members. Gregory Kramer, on behalf of Disability Rights California in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Kramer. Next, please.
- Ronit Glickman
Person
Hi, my name is Ronit Glickman, and I'm a teacher and mother of a student with dyslexia, and I'm here to support SB 691. Thank you for your support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Jennifer Salma
Person
Good morning. Jennifer Salma. I'm from Hillsborough, and I'm a parent of a 14 year old dyslexic son who was not identified by his public school and ended up in special education in 6th grade, and I am also a leader with decoding dyslexia and support SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Elise Lovejoy
Person
Elise Lovejoy. I'm a parent and a former teacher and a reading advocate, and I am in support of 691 out of Pasadena, California.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please. You're out of order. Next, please.
- Elena McFadden
Person
Elena McFadden from Sacramento. I have a third grader that because I had the resources to get private screening and private tutoring, I was able to get him identified as dyslexic. But I'm also a Title I 7th grade school teacher. And so I fight every year to push students through the system and then they get approved. But like African American high-poverty students who are in the 7th grade and have been suffering for seven years because their parents don't have the resources. I support SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Ms. McFadden. Next, please.
- Julie Sandino
Person
Hi, my name is Julie Sandino. I'm from Walnut Grove, California, parent of a dyslexic child, and I am strong supporter of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Megan Bacigalupi
Person
Hi, I'm Megan Bacigalupi. I'm the Executive Director of California Parent Power and the proud parent of a 10 year old with dyslexia. We're here in strong support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Kendra Pimsicle
Person
Hi, I'm Kendra Pimsicle. I drove out from Saratoga, California, this morning. I have three sons who are dyslexic. We're from Saratoga Unified School District. I'm in strong support of SB 691, especially coming from a place with so many resources. The struggle that we had to get the diagnosis pretty high.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Jessica Jacobson
Person
Hi, my name is Jessica Jacobson. I'm from Davis. I'm the parent of an English language learner who was denied screening, testing and intervention by educators and was diagnosed externally with severe dyslexia.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Shakia Ward
Person
Good morning. My name is Shakia Ward, and I'm a Conner Park Council Member. And along with the City of Honor Park, we are in full support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you and good to see you. Next, please.
- Roberto Mullinger
Person
Buenos dias, mi llamo Roberto Luis Mullinger. I'm Rober Mullinger. I'm from Mountain View, California. My 12 year daughter has dyslexia and she's bilingual, and I'm in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Izzy Swindler
Person
Izzy Swindler. On behalf of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, in support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Katherine Pettibone
Person
Katie Pettybone. On behalf of Governor for California, in strong support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Michelle Kazeminejad
Person
Hi, Michelle Kaziminejad, parent of a dyslexic child, in strong support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please. Hi, I'm Matt Angelou, parent of a dyslexic child, in support of the Bill. Thank you. Next, please.
- Caroline Nielson
Person
Caroline Nielsen, adult literacy tutor in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Kelly Makashi
Person
I'm Kelly Makashi, elected trustee from Pleasanton Unified, and I gladly drove all the way here to speak on behalf of all the students who have not had the opportunity to be screened. Just like my daughter, who has now been identified with dyslexia, a fifth grader. Let's not make it too late for the other students.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Lisa Losqillano
Person
Lisa Losqillano, resident of Rockland, California. On behalf of myself, who is dyslexic 1970s. Unidentified a child who is now 12, who I fought diligently, spending thousands of dollars to get the services and identification he needed. And now all the kids I work as a volunteer disability advocate for to get those kids the services they are legally entitled to that the state is not providing. Get that screening done and you will change lives. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Okish Nofeld
Person
I'm Okish Nofeld and I have dyslexia, and I'm in support of this Bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, sir. Next, please.
- Lindsey Nofeld
Person
I'm Lindsay Nofeld on behalf of Reading for Berkeley and a parent of dyslexic child from Berkeley, California, in support of this Bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Nicholas Atkinson
Person
My name is Nicholas Atkinson. I'm support of this Bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Atkinson. Next, please.
- Christine Atkins
Person
Hi, I'm Christine Blanche Atkins. That was my son. I am a dyslexic 1970s, undiagnosed. Also, English was not my first language growing up. It was French. My parents are from Haiti. I'm a strong supporter of this Bill. I have two dyslexic children. I have dyslexic nephews. It runs all over my family. And literacy is a human right.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Cynthia Suniga
Person
Cynthia Suniga. I live in Berkeley. I switched careers to become a special education attorney. I have. Two of my three boys have dyslexia. The oldest wasn't diagnosed until fourth grade. When I paid privately for that, I noticed the signs on my youngest child. He's in special education. He's now in second grade and he's reading. He had the early intervention. I support the Bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Thank you. Next, please.
- Rachel Heard
Person
Hello. Rachel Heard, San Ramon, California. I am the parent of two grown children who had dyslexia, and I am also the President of the San Ramon Valley Unified School District Board of Education. And our district began universal screening for kindergarten grades, too, when we returned from the pandemic and are already seeing huge success in this approach.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Ava Freeman
Person
Hello, I'm Ava Freeman, a sister of a dyslexic student in Santa Rosa in support of SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Marshall Tuck
Person
Hello. Marshall Tuck, representing EdBoys who are co-sponsors of the Bill and strong support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Tuck. Next, please.
- Brian Brennan
Person
Hello. Brian Brennan, representing the 21st Century alliance, in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Thank you. Next, please.
- Tiffany Fan
Person
Tiffany Fan, on behalf of California Court Appointed Apecial Advocates, or CalCASA, in support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Fan. Next, please. Anybody else in the Committee hearing room would like to testify in support. Does anybody here like, testify in opposition to SB 691? If so, please proceed to the microphone.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you.
- Efrain Mercado Jr.
Person
Good Morning Chair Newman and members of the Committee.
- Josh Newman
Person
Welcome.
- Efrain Mercado Jr.
Person
My name is Efrain Mercado and I represent the 310,000 educators of the California Teachers Association. CTA must unfortunately oppose SB 691 as it is currently constructed. While CTA supports the overarching intent, we believe the implementation is currently unworkable for LEAs and impossible to implement with efficacy. The Bill is attempting to create a new statewide of universal screening for our youngest students, and the policy must be thoughtful and deliberate through each phase of implementation.
- Efrain Mercado Jr.
Person
It is crucial that the legislation provide clear expectations with a balance of local implementation, providing state resources, and reflect the voice of educators who will be implementing the policy. DTA believes that all students can be successful, and one of the keys to success is the ability to read at grade level. As currently drafted. We do not believe that SB 691 will effectively build a system that's beneficial to all of our students.
- Efrain Mercado Jr.
Person
SB 691 requires the vetting and identifying screeners at the state level, adoption at the local level, and then immediately turning around in the fall to screen all of the TK, Kinder, first, and second-grade students in our state in less than six months. The level of human capital is required but unfunded in SB 691 is incredibly significant.
- Efrain Mercado Jr.
Person
It would mandate that teachers and administrators be trained in order to implement the screening appropriately for all students, interpret their results, and share the results with parents and guardians within 45 days of screening. As currently drafted, SB 691 provides no requirements nor funding for LEAs to provide appropriate training and support for educators to deliver the evidence-based literacy instruction, monitor progress, and introduce early intervention strategies into the General ED program for all students who are identified.
- Efrain Mercado Jr.
Person
For the intent of this Bill to be achieved, there will need to be a comprehensive redrafting and not just one or two simple amendments. Our educators work tirelessly every day to provide California students with the quality education they need and deserve. CTA wants to be a partner in fulfilling the promise of public education because our students benefit most when we work together. Respectfully request your no vote. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody else in the committee hearing, please proceed.
- Jennifer Baker
Person
Good morning. Hard to see me? Hello.
- Josh Newman
Person
It's Mr. Hampton. It's his fault, not yours.
- Jennifer Baker
Person
Good morning. Jennifer Baker, representing the California Association for Bilingual Education, like Senator Portantino, CABE, believes that identifying and providing support to California's dyslexic students is needed. CABE's opposition stems from the multiple systemic gaps in the proposed process, which would leave California's English learners and their families vulnerable to overidentification. A number of unanswered questions remain about the screeners and screening process.
- Jennifer Baker
Person
Who specifically will be providing the screening, and how can we provide the necessary amount of culturally and linguistically competent screeners when we're currently unable to provide enough bilingual teachers to currently serve our existing needs? A particular concern is the misidentification of English learners. Without a structured process that includes mechanisms to prevent misidentification and how to rectify this should this happen, English learners may not all benefit from this process.
- Jennifer Baker
Person
It's important to recognize that English learners are not a homogenized population and should not be tested in a language they do not understand. Will the linguistically appropriate process include screening in every language? Are the resources provided to ensure this is the case? A kindergartner that may have just arrived as a migrant or refugee may enter our school system in a matter of weeks or days upon arrival, triggering the 90 day screening process.
- Jennifer Baker
Person
By focusing on testing her within 90 days without recognizing she likely doesn't read or write in her home language, with a structure that we do not know will accurately reflect her great diversity in skills, abilities, culture, and experiences, we may mistakenly identify her as dyslexic, causing her and her family both confusion and concern. Ultimately, she should not necessarily be tested in her native language, as she is developmentally barely beginning to understand how written language works, which is illustrated by Emília Ferreira through her research.
- Jennifer Baker
Person
Unfortunately, SB 691 does not include a mandate that when a parent is notified their child has been screened and may have dyslexia, that they receive this notification in their home language. Further, what will happen to these children after they have been identified? What will be the next steps for our English learners who have been screened, who may have been misidentified as dyslexic? What resources will be there for families whose misidentification has taken place?
- Jennifer Baker
Person
CABE appreciates the opportunity to share our opposition with you today and with Senator Portantino. And again, we do believe that screening is important. We believe that safeguards must be created to ensure this process is created to benefit all students. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody else is in the hearing room, like testify in opposition, if you could, your name, your organization, and your position.
- Cristina Salazar
Person
Cristina Salazar with Californians Together in opposition.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anyone else? Let us now go to the teleconference line. Mr. Moderate, if you could, please cue any participants on the line who'd like to testify either in support of or in opposition to SB 691.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you. Mr. Chair. If you are in support or in opposition to SB 691, please press one, followed by zero at this time. And we will begin today with line 109. Please go ahead. Line 109, you are open. Are you muted 109? Please go ahead. 109?
- Devika Sood
Person
Hello?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
You're open.
- Devika Sood
Person
Hi, my name is Devika Sood. I am a Director of elementary academics with Lighthouse Community Public School in Oakland, and I am in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, next please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
112, please go ahead.
- Whitney Northen
Person
Hi, my name is Whitney Northen. I'm a parent of a thirteen-year-old dyslexic boy from Sacramento in the San Juan school district, and I am in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Line 618 or, excuse me. 118, you are open. 118, please go ahead.
- Vanessa Thomas
Person
Hi, my name is Vanessa Thomas. I am a parent of a dyslexic child. I have dyslexia myself, and my mother has dyslexia. We're from Santa Rosa, California, in the Mark West School district, and we are in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
120, you are open. 120.
- Katie Delavan
Person
Hello, my name is Katie Delavan. I am a parent and bilingual teacher. My daughter is almost eight, and she is in the Davis Unified School District. We found out she had dyslexia this year, and we started evaluations when she was three, but it took us almost five years, and then I found out at age 45, I also have dyslexia. That's how old I am right now. I am in support of SB 691, thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And please, witnesses, your name, your organization, and your position, please. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Line 123, please. Go ahead.
- Ashley Walker
Person
Thank you chair and members, Ashley Walker with Nossaman, on behalf of the County of Monterey Board of Supervisors in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you. 122, you are open.
- Jennifer Gram
Person
Hi there. My name is Jennifer Gram. I am an educator, a parent, and I am in support of this Bill. Thank you for your time.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
124, please. Go ahead.
- Kiriko Kazaki
Person
Thank you. Kiroko Kazakhi, bilingual parent of two children with dyslexia, from Los Angeles, in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
125, you're open.
- Diana Bedrosian
Person
Hi, my name is Diane Bedrosian. I am a pediatrician in Vista, California, in strong support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Go ahead. 130.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hello. My name is Oslam Osdanal. I'm a parent and an educator and a resident from Cotati, California. I'm in strong support of SB 691.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
116, please. Go ahead.
- Laura Wasco
Person
Laura Wasco, on behalf of the California Association of School Psychologists in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
133, please. Go ahead.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hi, my name is Vidori Sepa. I'm a parent and a pediatrician from Pengrove, California. I'm calling in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
You are open. Line 134.
- Karen Rosenquist
Person
Hi, my name is Karen Rosenquist. I'm a parent of dyslexic son and also the Executive Director and founder of a school in Mill Valley for children with dyslexia. And on behalf of our 81 students, 22 faculty, and 160 parents, I strongly support SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Line 140, please. Go ahead.
- Clare Corcoran
Person
My name is Clare Corcoran. I'm a structured literacy dyslexia specialist in San Francisco, and I support SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Line 141, please. Go ahead.
- Stephania Simpson
Person
Hi, my name is Stephanie Simpson. I am a parent of two dyslexic daughters in San Diego, California, in strong support of SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
132. You are open.
- Liza Finkelstein
Person
Hi, my name is Liza Finkelstein. I'm a former SFUSD high school reading intervention teacher and coach, and co-founder of FULCRUM, Full and Complete Reading at the Universal Mandate with Kareem Weaver. I also am the mother of a bilingual son who was not diagnosed until third grade and who still struggles to read and is really turning off at school. I am calling in very strong support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Go aheadline 142.
- Elizabeth Bloom
Person
Good morning. My name is Elizabeth Bloom, and I am an educator in Hawthorne, California, and also a mother of a dyslexic son who's in 8th grade and was not identified until late even with a lot of educator knowledge on my side of things, and it has been a real struggle, and so I'm in full support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Line 145 you are open
- Leslie Woodward
Person
Good morning. I'm Leslie Woodward. I'm a structured literacy tutor and the parent of a dyslexic daughter. I'm very strongly supporting SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Please, go ahead. Line 146.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Yes. Hi. Maggie O'choir from living inside apostle, supporting SB 691. Thank you.
- Committee Secretary
Person
You are open, 150. Line 150?
- Leticia Saldana
Person
My name is Leticia Saldana. I'm parent in support for SB 691.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Please go ahead, line 153.
- Irina Guseva
Person
Hi, my name is Irina Guseva. I'm a mother of a child, trilingual child, who is dyslexic, and he's dyslexic in all three languages. And it's been a struggle since before even kindergarten to get the right support for him, and I strongly support SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 155, you are open.
- Erin Fremont
Person
Hi, my name is Erin Fremont. I'm a parent in Folsom, California. Two kids with dyslexia, Folsom Cordova Unified School District, and I have strong support of SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
156, you are open. Line 156. Are you muted, line 156? We can move to line 157. Please go ahead.
- Matt Fremont
Person
My name is Matt Fremont, and I am the parent of two dyslexic kids, and I'm in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Fremont. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 158, you are open. Please go ahead, 158.
- Erica Ledesma
Person
Hello, my name is Erica Ledesma, parent of an early diagnosed five year old kindergartner with a double-deficit of dyslexia, who was also identified as twice gifted dyslexic, who was diagnosed at my own financial expense. My daughter is currently attending at Altamont Creek Elementary School in the Livermore Valley Joint Unified School District in the City of Livermore, and I am extremely disappointed in the current education services offered by our state for students, and I am strongly in support of SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 126, you are open.
- Ashley Rebiskie
Person
This is Ashley Rebiskie, parent and educator, and currently work for Greenfield Learning, and I strongly support SD 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
154, please go ahead. Line 154, are you muted? Line 154.
- Melissa Lazaro
Person
I was told I was 154 and then 158. Is that me?
- Committee Secretary
Person
You're 154, please go ahead.
- Melissa Lazaro
Person
Okay, that's me?
- Josh Newman
Person
Please proceed.
- Melissa Lazaro
Person
My name is Melissa Lazaro. Yes. Thank you. My name is Melissa Lazaro, and I am in full support of SB 691. I am located in San Diego. I am a bilingual parent. We come from a bilingual bicultural family, and my son was excused, as the reason for his not reading, as being that he was bilingual. But if he had been properly screened for dyslexia, they would have identified that in kindergarten. Instead, he was not able to read until fourth grade. I am in strong support of SB 691.
- Melissa Lazaro
Person
And I'm tired of the excuses...
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next caller, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 161, please go ahead.
- Bill Foley
Person
Bill Foley from Pleasanton, California. I'm in full support of SB 691 for the diagnosis of dyslexia with children. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
We will go to line 162. Please go ahead.
- Jennifer Zimring
Person
Hi, my name is Jennifer Zimring, I'm from Moraga. I am a parent of a 10 year old dyslexic son, and I'm in strong support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 165, you are open.
- Roz Myers
Person
Good morning. My name is Roz Myers, and I am an older African American worker and mother who has struggled through my academic and work careers. I have nine children with three that have dyslexia and ADHD. I didn't know until I began the process of screening my children that I also was affected and then began to understand and realize what the challenges are. I support early screening during early childhood education.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Thank you for your testimony. Thank you. Next, please.
- Roz Myers
Person
Thank you for the opportunity.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 169, you are open.
- Becky McKright
Person
Hi, my name is Becky McKright, and I'm from Rocklin. I am a mother of a child with dyslexia, and after watching him struggle throughout elementary school here, I am strongly supporting bill SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 174, please go ahead.
- Scott Davison
Person
Good morning. Scott Davison, parent, attorney, and education advocate, on behalf of the Carlsbad Education Alliance in strong support of 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Davison. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 176, please go ahead.
- Doug Major
Person
Hi, this is Dr. Doug Major from beautiful Los Osos, California, representing the California Children's Vision Now Coalition in strong support and reminding you that vision care is also an important tool for these young children to combat dyslexia. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Are there any other callers, Mr. Moderator?
- Committee Secretary
Person
It looks like we have about five left in queue.
- Josh Newman
Person
Okay, please proceed. Your name, your organization, your position, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And we'll go to line 183.
- Diane Young
Person
Hi, my name is Diane Young. I'm a parent of three dyslexic children in the San Ramon Valley Unified School District that are all extremely suffering right now, and I'm in full support of SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
184, please. Go ahead.
- Kirsten Kelley
Person
Hello, my name is Kirsten Kelley. I am a first grade teacher in Lake Elsinore, California and I am in full support of SB 691. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay, we'll go to line 185. You are open.
- Frida Brunzell
Person
Hi, I'm Frida Brunzell from San Diego. I'm on PTA's Equitable Literacy Resolution Committee. I'm a parent of a bilingual child who got identified too late for dyslexia. I'm passionately in support of SB 691.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Line 82, you are open. Line 82. Line 82. Line 82, go ahead.
- Raquel Díaz
Person
Si buenos días. Mi nombre es Raquel Díaz. Soy mamá de una niña de 9 años que tiene dislexia y apoyo la SB 691. Gracias.
- Josh Newman
Person
Gracias. Moderator, any other callers on the line to testify?
- Committee Secretary
Person
We have one more, Mr. Chair.
- Josh Newman
Person
Please proceed.
- Committee Secretary
Person
She took herself out just now.
- Josh Newman
Person
Okay, thank you. And thank you to everybody who called in. Let's bring it back to the Committee hearing room. Senators, any comments or questions about the bill? Senator Glazer. And Senator Wilk, I know you have a comment. Go ahead, Senator Smallwood-Cuevas.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you, Senator Portantino, for bringing this bill forward. We've had many discussion and sidebars around this bill. And as a mother who has gone through a process of getting services for my children, married to a disabilities coordinator for over two decades, I know how important it is to be identified in terms of special needs. And I also know how difficult it is for families to get access to the tools to help fix the challenges that our children face. I think this is an important bill.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
My question is in terms of some of the amendments that were lifted up, some of the concerns about implementation. How do we ensure that the human resources, the implementation strategy, and the full tools that families will need to be able to address this very important challenge that really sets the course for the future for their children? I know we talked about you being open to those concerns and taking those concerns on.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
For me, I think it's important to really be definitive about that in the bill because it's worse to be identified and not have the actual tools to address the problems. Right. I think that is a concern for many parents, is how do we actually get the services?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Do you want me to comment now or...
- Josh Newman
Person
Please.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
...hear all the comments?
- Josh Newman
Person
It's up to you.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
No, I do think in order to solve any problem, you have to identify what the problem is at the outset. And just speaking with the school board member from Berkeley, school districts are going to save significant resources by actually identifying what the real problems are. Because if we don't intervene in kindergarten-first grade, that student will struggle for every single year prospectively.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
By actually helping them solve the problem in the early grade, we're going to be saving significant resources throughout that year and helping those districts redirect those resources to where the problem is actually identified. The other issue on misidentification for special ed. Again, we're going to be solving that problem, which saves that school district significantly more money because it's, again, cheaper and more efficient to intervene in the first grade.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I agree with you that we should take some of the concerns that were expressed today on implementation, on time frame, and other things, and obviously on educator input, into what list of screeners are available, and we should look at what the other 40 states are doing. So I'm having those ongoing conversations because I understand from a parent's perspective, my kid's been identified with a problem. What's next?
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
Right.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I agree that we want to focus on the what's next? And the Governor's put significant resources in the budget over the past two years specifically for dyslexia. We're going to be looking at those allocations to help offset any costs. But overall, this bill will save school districts money, and it's four times easier to intervene in first grade than it is in fifth grade. So, again, it's going to take significant more resources if we do nothing. The school district will be overburdened if we do nothing.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
The burden goes down if we do something. And again, under the current system, only 12% of English learners are at proficiency, and many of them are getting misidentified as special ed, and we're going to solve that problem with this. So I agree we have to focus on having sound implementation strategy. I'm going to look at that, but conceptually, this is going to make it easier to do that, not harder to do that.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Senator Wilk.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Portantino, I want to thank you for your leadership on this issue. This is a very important issue, and I want to give a shout out to EdVoice. I first learned that we didn't do this in this state at a briefing a number of years ago where I got educated on the issue. And we should already be doing this, and we're not. I would say a couple things.
- Scott Wilk
Person
I totally agree with you that the sooner we screen these students, there are going to be much less misidentification. It's actually gonna save school districts a ton of money, and it's going to improve young people's lives. One of the data points that demographers use to project future prison population, as you know, is the literacy rates of third graders. A lot of times that is because of dyslexia. And to not do this screening is just inexcusable. I know. For me, I've got two children.
- Scott Wilk
Person
No parent ever has an average... Like Johnny, oh, yeah, my johnny, he's average. No one has an average student. So I've got one who's AP, one who's special needs. And fortunately, we got her screened at a very early age because she was second in line, and she's not dyslexic, but we were able to get her services early. And they went from, at one point saying, don't ever expect her to go to college, to go to college, become a teacher, and then teach special ed students at the elementary school she went to.
- Scott Wilk
Person
So this is all doable, and I appreciate all the parents in the room today because this is a really important issue. And for CTA, I've been sitting up here for years. I'm so sick and tired of you always telling us why we can't do something. Why don't you tell us how we can do it? Your vision should be student access and student success, not whatever your agenda. I don't even know what your agenda is, but it's not students agenda, and I find it offensive.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Obviously, there's going to be challenges with implementation. I have every confidence in you that you're going to be able to do that. And I'm really proud to be principal coauthor of this bill. And again, just thank you so much for all you do for students in general. So thank you sir.
- Josh Newman
Person
Any other... Senator Glazer, go ahead. I'm sorry, Senator Ochoa Bogh is next. I apologize. Pardon, my fault. Go ahead.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
That's okay. Thank you for this bill. I'm also a coauthor on the bill. I think there's some valid concerns with regards to the implementation part of it. Especially, we've had some oversight hearings in which our school districts, unfortunately, they just don't have enough of personnel to be able to come in and meet the needs. But that's not to say that this is not very much needed.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And I think to the point where we do diagnose a child with a need, such as, in this case with dyslexia. Even if we cannot, as a school resource or a school site, be able to provide those services right away because we're in the process of having the school districts do the training or be able to find the personnel to be able to meet the needs. It still informs and empowers a parent to be able to say, okay, this is what my child needs.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Let me see what other resources are there available for my child to be able to get the needs that they met. So I think the fact that our school district would take that lead or be able to do the diagnosis first, it actually empowers a parent. It is so difficult. It is so difficult when a parent doesn't know what exactly is impeding their child from learning.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And just for those parents who do have children with learning differences, those are not necessary flaws that should make you sad. That makes your child especially unique and very special. And as parents or caregivers, our job is to make sure that we know what they need and then figure out what resources are available out there. This is where we're so grateful for the Internet, which allows us to connect. But I hear some sadness.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Do not ever be sad with a child that has been gifted to you. Be grateful for that child and the very special, unique needs that they have. Thank you for this bill. Love to work with you, collaborate, to see how we can help our school districts have the funding that they need to train and hire the staff to be able to implement this effectively.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And I know timeframes are always very sensitive because every school district is unique in where they're located and what they have access to. So I am very receptive to the school districts as well and to the teachers who have to implement this. Very, very conscious about that. But that's not to say that our parents don't have a right to know what their child needs.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Y para usted señora, me encantaria verla para correcto para una oficina oficial es una bueno abogada para sus hijos. Yo fui exactamente como usted.
- Josh Newman
Person
I think everybody caught the sentiment of that comment. Senator Glazer.
- Steven Glazer
Person
I love Senator Ochoa Bogh's comment about special kids. And to the parents and the kids and the educators and the professionals that are here, thank you for coming up and sharing. Senator Portantino, was happy to support the bill last session, happy to do it again, and at the appropriate time, happy to move the bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Senator. Senator Cortese.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And apologize to the author for coming in and out. The usual, I presented a bill in another Committee. And so it's always dangerous to ask a question when you haven't been here for the whole time.
- Josh Newman
Person
Oh, the audience will let you know if you're on the right page.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
It sounds like we're having audience participation today, so that's exciting. Senator Portantino, just curious as to what level of work you're continuing to do with the opposition going forward? I'm a coauthor of the bill. I supported the essence of the bill last year. I appreciate what you're doing. I'm just assuming that you're probably still working with them. But I just wanted to ask the question.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Absolutely. Now, through the dialogue, we make better decisions. I will continue to talk with the opposition. I've asked for specific language suggestions. I think there's merit to many of their concerns. Whether we're going to get everything addressed, I can't make that promise, but I can tell you that we're going to continue to talk. And, I mean, I want everybody to be on the same page. I mean, it's too critical not to be.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
But I do think, fundamentally, we have to agree that the earlier we intervene, the better it is for a kid. It just is. And so we need to make sure we focus on that core value as we move forward.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
All right. I appreciate your response. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Senator Wilk, you have another comment?
- Scott Wilk
Person
Yeah. I'm sure you're going to hit this in your close, but I wanted to bring it up just in case you didn't. I think it was Ms. Baker who brought up her concern about ESL students. And I just wanted everybody in the room to know that you had another bill that we passed out last week that is going to compel school districts to provide written IEPs in a much quicker time frame than they oftentimes do. So that is something that you've already taken into consideration, have been an advocate for for a number of years.
- Josh Newman
Person
Appreciate that. I'm going to support the bill today. I do have a couple of questions. And I appreciate, not only the need for this bill, but also the urgency. Right. And so that has been well validated by all of the wonderful people who've testified very passionately about this. So there is concern, you've talked to it, about the implementation. We're all very familiar with the challenges of legislative implementation.
- Josh Newman
Person
So I'm glad to hear that you're willing to work with all parties to make sure that we work that out. A couple of questions. There's a concern of false positives and some implications around that. So how would you respond to that?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
So first of all, this is not a diagnosis. It's a screening tool. So it's going to identify who at that point in time has a reading challenge so we can start to intervene. And the reason why you do follow up evaluations is so you can see how your progress is going. And it could very well be that somebody in kindergarten who is screened with an issue, in first grade, we've corrected it. And so now by having the follow up evaluation, it's been corrected.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And so that's why you have these follow up evaluations. Another thing that's come up is people say, well, is it too early to screen in kindergarten and first grade? And the answer is absolutely not, because according to neuroscience, that's when kids are the most susceptible for intervention to be helpful. And so, again, identifying that problem earlier makes it more efficient to help. So that's why we're doing the follow up screenings, to correct for that issue.
- Josh Newman
Person
Okay.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And that's why this is going to save us significant resources, because it's going to cut down on the kids who are falsely identified as special needs.
- Josh Newman
Person
And by, referring to follow up screenings, so there's some concern that doing this multiple times is, especially for students who've been identified as dyslexic.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Well, they're identified at risk.
- Josh Newman
Person
At risk of dyslexia.
- Josh Newman
Person
So the idea is, if they're at risk, to your mind, it makes sense to screen them multiple times from K through 2. Right? Is that correct?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Right.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Correct.
- Josh Newman
Person
Right. Okay. And then with respect to linguistic sort of capabilities. So how do. How are you thinking about addressing the challenge, especially on students who've coming to school, may not speak good English? Are there tools, or are you confident we can develop those tools to screen in other languages that won't misdiagnose?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Absolutely. The tools exist already. UC San Francisco is working on California's own version of that app, which the timing coincides nicely with this bill. And that's one of the goals, is to have it be linguistically sensitive. The bill has those safeguards written into it to make sure that the implementers are native speaking of that language, that we take in linguistic sensitivity. All of those safeguards are in it, and many of them come right from the research that's come out and the concerns that have been addressed.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And so we feel we're addressing that issue head on, and we feel confident that. And again, 40 other states do it. Many of them are border states. Many of them have a higher percentage of English learners in their districts, and they're doing it well. So we think we can learn from the other states as well.
- Josh Newman
Person
And again, there is concern about applying those learnings in a rapid fashion. This is a challenge we touch on.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
On that, Mr. Chair. One thing that I do want to give a lot of credibility to, the idea that we would do it within the first 90 days. One of the arguments that was presented to me two days ago from one of the organizations was allow some time for the teacher to develop a rapport with that student. So perhaps we make it within 40, after 45 days, allow that kid that comes into that class to develop that comfort level in that classroom.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And so I think that's actually a very good point that we're going to look at making sure that there's sort of a landing space, a comfort pillow, in essence, and not doing the evaluation on day one, for example, if you have a kid who just comes into a new classroom. So I think we're going to be looking at that, and I think that's a very good point that's been raised.
- Josh Newman
Person
Appreciate that. My last question, different folks at different times in this hearing have made it really clear it's not only important when we communicate with parents as to the challenge, but also how. And so you have a similar linguistic challenge there. So how do we ensure that parents are being sort of consulted and engaged in the right language? Given, again, given sort of the tightness of the timelines that you've prescribed here.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Parental communication is paramount importance. And so, yes, we're building the communication responsibilities within the bill, but also federal law already mandates that if you have 15% of a school population of a particular language, things have to be translated already. That's federal law.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
So certainly we're going to be a strong supporter of complying with federal law, but we're going to increase, to the extent that we're capable, more parent involvement. And again, knowing what the problem is is the first part, and then communicating with those parents and allowing that communication to happen. So, yes, we're going to be looking at those implementation issues as the bill goes forward.
- Josh Newman
Person
And I appreciate that. I do appreciate what you're trying to do, and I do appreciate the urgency here. You only get one shot at first grade. We cannot wait. But I'm also appreciative of the broader kind of challenge of doing these things comprehensively. So it's fair to say that you want to do this, but you're totally open to figuring out how to better align this with all of the other myriad challenges that educators face, certainly from TK through second grade, that need addressing. So appreciate your commitment that you've made to working with stakeholders.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And again, just clear my commitment is to work with stakeholders, but I'm not committing to a specific amendment today. I'm just saying I'm going to...
- Josh Newman
Person
I know you well enough to know that, Senator Portantino.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I don't want anybody to say I make... The best way to keep promises is not to make promises.
- Josh Newman
Person
Right. But the best way to solve problems is to be open minded, especially to the unintended consequences of the following issues that things create. So with that, any other questions or comments from the Members? Okay, so we had a motion, I believe, from Senator Glazer. And would you like to close?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I really appreciate both the comments and the parents who came from their busy lives to be here and be on the phone. The advocates, as the Chair said, you never get first grade back. We got one chance to get this right. It's going to save money, help kids in a tremendous, exponential way. Just knowing what their issues are, so we can get them help. And with that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. We have a motion from Senator Glazer. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File Item 7, SB 691 by Portantino. Motion is do pass but first be referred to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
And that bill is out 7-0. So thank you, everybody, for being here. And so, with that affirming applause, I actually have to go present two bills as well. So, to the Vice Chair, if you wouldn't mind taking the gavel for a time. And I will return as quickly as possible.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Your staff will meet you outside the Committee room with your binder.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
There we go. Welcome, Senator Portantino, again. We are happy to hear SB 323.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Yes, thank you, Madam Chair and Members. SB 323 will require local education agencies to create and maintain an inclusive school emergency plan. And require these IEPs for a pupil with exceptional needs. Again, we have students with exceptional needs. We should make sure that when we have emergencies on campus, we actually include a plan for those emergencies for those kids. Safety is a top priority. I mean, we see it every day. Whether it's a shooter, whether it's an earthquake, whether it's other issues.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
We should make sure that all of our kids have a safety plan, and that's what this bill does. It came to me from a constituent, and we have her to testify in support. Andrea Crissman, who brought this issue. And then we have Gregory Cramer from Disability Rights California. So, with that, I would respectfully ask for an aye vote when appropriate. And if we can hear from my two witnesses, that would be fantastic.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Wonderful. We will now move on to lead witnesses in support.
- Andrea Crissman
Person
Thank you, Senator. I could give you over 700,000 reasons to support SB 323, because California has more than 700,000 students in special education. Now, these are some of the kids that I know. This is Sabrina and Trinity and my son, Daniel. They all have cerebral palsy. And some other disabilities. And the girls, they need someone else to push their chair, but my son can push his chair a little bit.
- Andrea Crissman
Person
This is Abby. She's higher functioning, and she can understand danger and safety drills, which is great. This is Brandon. Now, he can run around, but he doesn't understand anything about danger at all, which is dangerous. Here we have Beckett. Now, if you ask Beckett to stand up, he needs about 30 seconds just to process what you've said before he can move.
- Andrea Crissman
Person
And if you start repeating what you've asked him to do or talk too fast, he freezes and he plants himself, and he weighs 175 pounds, and he's only 10 years old. So that presents some challenges, too. This is Joshua. Like a lot of these kids, he gets overstimulated when there's lights and sounds, and he's been known to suddenly run or hide or just drop to the floor.
- Andrea Crissman
Person
Now, kids with IEPs, they need accommodations for their education, but they also, some of them need accommodations for their safety. This bill, it doesn't expand their rights. It protects their existing rights so that they're the same as the rights of non-disabled children. It makes a lot of sense for the IEP team and the parents to talk about safety plans at the annual IEP meeting. In a real disaster, this information is going to be very important to emergency responders.
- Andrea Crissman
Person
While researching this topic, I found that there's other people who've identified this as a problem. In fact, in Maryland, they enacted a very similar bill in 2017. I firmly believe that SB 323 will help our hardworking educators protect these 700,000 most vulnerable students in California. Thank you very much.
- Gregory Cramer
Person
Good morning, Madam Chair and Members. Gregory Cramer, on behalf of Disability Rights California, we're in support of this bill. And in today's world, we believe that emergency planning is essential and should be a routine part of the IEP process. The legislative response to the impacts of Covid-19 and the pandemic on youth receiving special ed. The law was amended, Education Code 56345(a)(9) was amended to require IEP teams to come up with a plan on how the IEP will be provided in emergency conditions.
- Gregory Cramer
Person
The fulfillment of an IEP during emergencies is now a normal part of an IEP meeting, and the IEP form now has a dedicated space for educators to specify how to accomplish this objective. DRC's education legal team and parents that have reached out to us have found that to be very workable and believe that the provisions of Senate Bill 323 would also be seamlessly incorporated. As noted in the Committee analysis, students with disabilities may not be physically able to participate in drills like duck and cover.
- Gregory Cramer
Person
And Senate Bill 323 ensures that students with disabilities are not exposed to greater risk during an emergency, and educators and responders will not be left scrambling on how to protect these students. We believe that this measure will result in the protection and safety of youth in special education and should be easily implementable. For these reasons, we support Senate Bill 323. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. We'll now hear from other support witnesses in room 2100.
- Melissa Cortez-Roth
Person
Thank you. Melissa Cortez, on behalf of Autism Speaks, in support.
- Annie Chou
Person
Annie Chou with the California Teachers Association. We actually have a tweener position. Can I elaborate?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Yes.
- Annie Chou
Person
Awesome. We are very supportive of the spirit of the bill. Just have some concerns about unintended impacts if the bill is read too broadly as a mandate, and not all IEP students may require that. So we've been having some productive conversations and look forward to having more. Thanks.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. Any other witnesses in support here in room 2100? Seeing none, we'll now move on to witnesses in opposition here in this room. Seeing none, let's hear from any other opposition witnesses. Actually, let's move on to the witnesses waiting to testify via the teleconference service. Moderator if you would, please prompt the individuals waiting to testify in support or opposition of SB 323, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you, Madam Chair. Participants from the public, if you'd like to testify, please press one followed by zero at this time. One followed by zero. We will be taking support and opposition, and we will begin today with line 53. Please go ahead.
- Sylvia Hernandez
Person
Sylvia Hernandez with the National Association of Social Workers, California Chapter. And we are in support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
We have a final reminder. One followed by zero. If you would like to testify in support or opposition. And nobody else is queuing up, Madam Chair.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Moderator, and thank you to all our support and opposition witnesses. We'll now bring the discussion back to our Members. Do any of our Members have any questions or comments?
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chair. Just want to say I support this bill and as co-author, I want to go ahead and move the motion.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. Any other comments or questions? Oh, sorry, Senator Wilk.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Thought we were on the same team, Madam Chair.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We are.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Again, I want to thank you for this bill. And when I was reading this bill earlier this week, I had no idea that we were not taking this into consideration. Later this morning, may go into afternoon, I don't know, I've got two bills that came out of the aftermath of shooting at my own local high school that both my kids went to and so you have this great idea. My mother-in-law wants to know why I'm not a co-author of this bill. So if you do end up having to amend this bill, I hope you'd be amenable in pleasing my mother-in-law by adding me as a co-author.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
But, yeah, just have her call and ask me, and I'll be happy to put you on. By the way, I'm his mother-in-law's favorite politician. I happen to be. So that's why we have this thing going on.
- Scott Wilk
Person
So, anyway. Yeah, I had no idea we didn't do this. It is something that's definitely needed. And I would say to anybody out there, if you don't think it could happen to your student at their school, you are wrong. So, anyway, again, kudos. Happy to support the bill today.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Just want to make sure I don't miss anybody else. And as Senator Wilk, I would be happy to be added on as a co-author, if I'm not already on that portion, Senator Portantino. Would you like to close?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item five, SB 323, Portantino. Motion is due pass, but first be re-referred to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll call]
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We're going to leave the roll call open for our absent Members. And thank you very much, Senator Portantino.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Then I have one more.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Yes. Are you ready for SB 640?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I am.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Perfect. Thank you. Please.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Thank you. Madam Vice Chair and Committee Members, SB 640 will require trustees of the California State University for each food service contract and participation in hotel development to contract with a person or parties that are in a labor peace agreement with any labor organization that represent or seek to represent food service employees performing under the food service and hotel employees at that project. So, SB 640 extends this requirement to food service contracts or hotel development that are on the Cal State.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
Basically, we want to make sure that our Cal State system, when they're bringing these hospitality venues or other expansion of hospitality on our Cal State campuses, that they involve their representative labor bargaining units in that process. It makes sense that we shouldn't circumvent labor relations by allowing outside contractors to come in and do these services. And so that's essentially what this Bill does. And we've seen when there are strikes and pickets and other issues, complications when we don't have these protections in place.
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And so I respectfully ask for an "I vote."
- Anthony Portantino
Person
And I have witnesses here. Ken Jacobs, chair of the University of California, Berkeley center on Law, Labor Research and Education, and Dr. Richard Amir Tavadarian Jeswin Professor at Santa Monica College.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Senator Portantino, Members of the Committee, thanks for having me here today. Over the last several years, we've seen an increase in labor conflicts in the United States as a whole and in California over the rising cost of living, health and safety issues, on the job, understaffing and higher education has been an area where we've seen a significant increase in labor conflicts, including in the Cal State system, related to contracting.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Labor peace policies have been used in California for over 20 years by public entities where there's a proprietary interest in minimizing labor conflict. The proprietary interest may be in cases where there's a financial interest, such as in food service and hotel developments, where the money received by the public entity depends on the revenue of those operations, or where there's a proprietary interest in preventing disruption of services.
- Steven Glazer
Person
And so what these policies do is they usually require anyone doing the contracting with the public entity to have an agreement with a labor organization that either represents the workers or seeks to represent those workers that has an alternative dispute resolution in order to avoid disruptive labor actions. And labor peace policies are currently in place in the cities of Los Angeles, San Francisco, La County, Santa Monica, Santa Monica College, Lax, SFO, San Jose Airport, Oakland Airport, the BART system for their hotel developments.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Similar policies related to food services and hotel developments are in place in the states of New York and Connecticut and about 10 other cities nationwide. So, in summary, we anticipate, given conditions, an increase in labor actions, including in higher education and in relationship to contracting out, where there has been historically lots of conflict. And these labor peace policies have been used successfully where there is a proprietary interest of the public in mitigating those conflicts.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Thank you.
- Richard Tahvildran-Jesswein
Person
Good morning. I hope you're all well. Senators, it is a pleasure to be here in support of SB 640. I am Dr. Richard Tahvildran-Jesswein Professor and Co-Director of the Public Policy Institute at Santa Monica College, and I'm also the Vice President of the Santa Monica Malibu Unified School District's board of education. The Santa Monica community has a substantive hospitality industry, one that has seen lots of strikes, picketing, and civil disobedience causing serious disruptions in our community.
- Richard Tahvildran-Jesswein
Person
The Santa Monica Malibu Unified School District owns land that has a hotel on it, and our lease agreement with this hotel produces revenue for our school district in support of our students and our academic mission. Prior to our school board's adoption of a labor peace policy, there was much conflict as the hotel was the site of pickets, student protests, lawsuits, Boycotts and demonstrations at our school Board Meetings. This went on for years and was a problem causing disruptions.
- Richard Tahvildran-Jesswein
Person
Alongside our flagship high school, Santa Monica High School, which is adjacent to the hotel in our community, our school board took action to protect our revenue and our academic interests and adopted a policy that the businesses on our land provide a no strike pledge with the appropriate union in the industry. This policy ensures there will be no strikes, pickets, Boycotts and disruptions. And this policy has proven effective for us in Santa Monica Malibu Unified School District.
- Richard Tahvildran-Jesswein
Person
Since adopting the labor peace policy, there have been zero labor conflicts. No strikes, pickets or Boycotts, and no disruptions to our students and impeding on our financial interests. With our lease agreement with the hotel. The policy has been so successful that the Santa Monica College Community College district has also adopted a labor peace policy. Again, it is a pleasure to be with you here this morning, particularly because I'm a political science Professor.
- Richard Tahvildran-Jesswein
Person
I skipped out on class today, so I'll be able to tell my students that I saw your good work in action this morning. And I thank you for your consideration of this bill.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, sir. Thank you, both of you, for your testimonies this afternoon or morning. Still morning. Let's hear from any witnesses of the Bill here in room 2100. It.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
- Jennifer Chavez
Person
Hello. My name is Jennifer Chavez, and I'm. A second year at Cal State Long Beach. I support this Bill.
- Robert Gonzalez
Person
Good morning, Madam Vice Chair and Committee Members. I'm Robert Gonzalez, CSU student at SAC State and former student employee, and current labor organizer representing student assistance at SAC State. In strong support of SB 640 and respectfully request your, I vote. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Any other additional witnesses in support of SB 640. Now let's hear from any other opposition witnesses here in room 2100.
- Eric Bakke
Person
Good morning, I think. Eric Bakke with the California State University chancellor's office. We don't actually have an official position on this Bill. We do have a number of concerns and a number of outstanding questions with the Bill, much of which is reflected in the Committee's analysis.
- Eric Bakke
Person
There are some issues around academics that we're looking at in terms of issues related to our hospitality services, related to two of our campuses, and we also look at the fact that we have 23 different universities that could be impacted differently from this Bill. So we're still assessing what this would do to our system and our campuses, as well as access to food and services for our students. So we look forward and appreciate the dialogue we've had with the author staff.
- Eric Bakke
Person
We look forward to continue this dialogue going forward as the Bill moves forward. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. Do we have any other witnesses in opposition to SB 640? Here. Room 2100. Seeing none. Mr. Moderator, if you would, please prompt the individuals waiting to testify in support and opposition to SB 640.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you, Madam Chair. Participants from the public, if you would like to testify in support or opposition to SB 640 please take this opportunity and press one, followed by zero, and we will go to line 191, 191. I think 191 took themselves out of queue. Go ahead and hit 10 again. 191. If you'd like to reprompt. And we'll go to line 192. Line 192, you are open.
- Kasey Dunmore
Person
Hello? Hi. Yes, ma'am, please, we can hear you. My name is Kasey Dunmore, a student at CSU Dominguez Hills. I'm here with Maya Washington, a student at CSU Long beach, and we are both in support of this Bill.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And we will go back to line 191. Please go ahead.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hi, my name is Nayeli. I go to CSU Dominguez Hills, and I strongly support the Bill.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 74, you are open. Line 74.
- Emily Rabb
Person
Hello?
- Emily Rabb
Person
My name is Emily Rabb, and I'm a student at Cal State Los Angeles, and I want to voice my full support of Bill SB 640. And.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Yes, ma'am, we can hear you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Madam Chair, there's no other participants queued up at this time.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Moderator. We want to thank our witnesses in support in opposition. We'll now bring the discussion back to our Members.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to thank the author for this important Bill coming out of higher ed and recognizing what an economic engine our campuses are. And it's in the state interests, in our financial interest, to have good jobs across the board. And I appreciate that.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
This Bill brings in the question of labor standards and brings in labor partnership, along with management, to ensure that any contracting services does not create a zero sum game for working people. So I'm appreciative of this Bill, and I move a motion for us to adopt.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Senator Smallwood-Cuevas, any other comments or concerns seeing none. Madam Secretary, please call the. zero, I apologize, Senator Portantino, would you like to close?
- Anthony Portantino
Person
I respectfully ask for an item.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Secretary. Please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item six, SB 640. Portantino. The motion is do pass. But first be re referred to the Committee on Labor, Public Employment, and retirement. Newman, Ochoa Bogh.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
No.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Ochoa Bogh. No. Cortese, Glazer, Mcguire. Smallwood-Cuevas.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
Aye.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Smallwood, Cuevas, aye. Wilk.
- Scott Wilk
Person
No.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Wilk, no.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We'll remain the Bill open for absent Members. Thank you. Okay, Senator Ashby. Happy to have you. Welcome, Senator Ashby. And please proceed when you're ready.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
Okay. Thank you so much for having me, Madam Chair. I rise today to present to this Committee, Senate Bill 307, the Fostering Futures act, which seeks to make debt free higher education a reality for foster youth in California. I am joined by Majority Leader McGuire, who is joint authoring this bill with me. I'm obviously not joined by him now, because he just left the room, but I do have his comments, and I'll ask for permission to share them after this.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
I want to thank him and his staff for working really hard on this bill. Was one of those things where we were both working on something similar, found out, and then combined our efforts. So now we have an extra strong team. SB 307 is sponsored by the John Burton Advocates for Youth. They're amazing partners in this space. We have 17 co-authors, including bipartisan support. SB 307 will give foster youth what I like to call agency. Agency to take care of themselves.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
To attend community college, to attend trade school, to go to a four-year university with 100% of their unmet need covered by the State of California. Imagine being able to tell a 14 year old who's lost everything, including their parents, that if they can just focus on school, that there's a way out for them in the future. The trade school, the community college that a four year UC or CSU is not out of reach for them. That's agency.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
SB 307 includes food, books, and, most importantly, housing. Foster youth, by definition, are housing insecure, and that instability makes it extremely difficult for them to attain higher education. These are really important numbers. The rate of homelessness among former foster youth is 43%. It's more than double that of other students, around 19%. This state, California, you should all be really proud. It does a great job of helping students with their tuition. But unfortunately for foster youth, that is just not enough.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
Not if you don't cover housing, too. In the State of California, 93% of foster youth say they want to attend college. 4% actually get the chance. That is compared to about 50% of their peers who are not former foster youth. SB 307 seeks to fill that gap. The need established by Fostering Futures will exist inside the Middle Class Scholarship program. It'll support foster youth and cover 100% of the remaining unmet needs after all other aid is applied.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
Completion of a four year degree, while a major milestone does not mark the end of a foster youth scholar's journey, but rather a very exciting new beginning. SB 307 will help ensure foster youth can reach their educational goals and will better prepare them to enter the next stage of their lives debt free from higher education. And then this is a part where I'm supposed to introduce the very charismatic Senator McGuire, but he is not here, and I have not perfected my impersonation of him yet.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
But I will do my best at the Chair's approval. Can I please read his comments? All right, I need about seven more glasses of Red Bull to get him down fit. But let me try my best, okay? Every foster youth deserves the opportunity to achieve their college dream. In too many cases, that dream is out of reach due to extreme challenges that come about in the foster system. Here's what we know. Foster youth have a high school dropout rate three times higher than low income students.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
The vast majority do not go on to a two or even four year degree. For a two year degree, 2-6% accomplish an AA. For a four year degree, 3-4% accomplish a BA or a BS. In a recent study, less than 50% even accomplished their first two semesters in college. These numbers are staggeringly low. We must and we can do better. This bill takes a needs based approach to a small portion of the Middle Class Scholarship act.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
This bill will redirect approximately 21 million to cover the complete cost of attendance to CSU or UC for foster youth. Foster youth already receive financial aid through the Cal Grant and Chafee grant. But one of the biggest stumbling blocks is the holistic cost of college. It isn't always covered housing, books and food. Unlike most kids, there's no support system and no one else to turn to to help with these financial needs.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
The question we get a lot: how will this impact the remaining students who get Middle Class Scholarship awards? The total impact would be $61 per recipient. What he means by that is, if the Middle Class Scholarship doesn't grow, then the average hit to everybody else would be less than $61. However, if the Middle Class Scholarship grows, which was proposed in the Governor's Budget, that could remain neutral even for the other recipients.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
We both urge an aye vote, and we thank you very much for your attention and for allowing us the opportunity, me to be two people and him to not be here. But we ask for your support of SB 307. Our support witnesses today, Madam Chair, are Jessica Petrass, from John Burton Advocates for Youth, and Cody Van Felden, a student from Sac State.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
We'll be happy to hear from our lead witnesses. Please proceed.
- Jessica Petrass
Person
Good morning. My name is Jessica Petrass. I'm with John Burn Advocates for Youth, and here in support of SB 307. In today's society of postsecondary education, it's key to financial stability, job security, and not just surviving, but really thriving in a meaningful career. However, despite foster youth dreams and aspirations, most enter adulthood in extreme poverty with college affordability found to be the most common reason foster youth choose not to attend college.
- Jessica Petrass
Person
And of those that started and then stopped college, affordability and the need to work were major barriers to reaching their college and career goals. While many of our youth with experience in foster care attempt to balance school and work, there is evidence of a direct relationship between the number of hours worked and the likelihood of dropping out of school for students with foster care experience.
- Jessica Petrass
Person
More than any other student population, youth with experience in foster care, they often lack financial and emotional safety net to support them through young adulthood. In addition to the long term impacts of abuse and neglect that brought them to the foster care system in the first place.
- Jessica Petrass
Person
And once in care, they experience higher rates of school mobility in k-12 education, with one third of students changing schools during the school year, which is four times the rate of low socioeconomic status or general populations, often leading to academic challenges, as we heard, in postsecondary education as well.
- Jessica Petrass
Person
California has a unique responsibility to continue to care and invest for the future of its children in foster care, and SB 307, it's an acknowledgment of the potential that these youth have to succeed in college when the necessary resources are provided. Fostering futures can make college possible for our most vulnerable students across all postsecondary pathways by creating debt free education. And we know that financial aid access is key to degree completion.
- Jessica Petrass
Person
So for these reasons, I'm requesting your aye vote today.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much.
- Cody Van Felden
Person
Good morning. My name is Cody. I am a graduate from Cosumnes River College and a current student at Sacramento State University. I began my college education at the age of 17. Although I have made it far in my education journey, it has been long and difficult. At 16, my adoptive parents abandoned me. At 18, my foster parents kicked me out, leaving me homeless. The only means of survival I had was through the financial aid. But this wasn't enough.
- Cody Van Felden
Person
The aid I received did not cover my basic needs. I often experienced the stress of not knowing when or if I was going to eat. I was forced to stay involved in social groups that were not healthy or safe environments, but those were the only groups willing to let me sleep on their sofas. In high school, I was an A-B average student. When I experienced financial and housing instability, my grade average quickly became Ds and Fs.
- Cody Van Felden
Person
My experience with financial and housing insecurity is not unique among foster youth. Foster youth have some of the highest rates of homelessness. At the age of 23, my life finally took a turn for the better, but this isn't the case for so many of our foster youth. The hurdles I faced as a foster youth impacted my academic performance, and it took me several extra years to finish my Associate's degree, resulting in reaching my financial aid limit in several grants and loans.
- Cody Van Felden
Person
I now wonder if I'm going to have enough money to cover the cost of my last year in school. When I do graduate, I will then have to start paying off the $50,000 in debt I've accumulated since I began college. I'm here today because SB 307 would change the course of our foster youth lives in California.
- Cody Van Felden
Person
Not only would SB 307 give foster youth a debt free education, it would also allow eligibility for up to eight years, which is so critical given the unique barriers many of us face on our college journey. For all of these reasons, I urge your support for SB 307 to give our foster youth in California a brighter future. Thank you.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you very much. All right, having heard from our lead witnesses, we'll now continue with our witnesses in support of SB 307 here in room 2100.
- Adam Keigwin
Person
Madam Chair and Senators, Adam Keigwin, on behalf of city year, who serves thousands of foster youth in Los Angeles, San Jose and Sacramento, and whose many of the core members are former foster youth, in support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you.
- Robert Gonzalez
Person
Good afternoon, Committee. My name is Robert Gonzalez. Thank you, home Senator, for presenting this bill. As a former employee who worked in the financial aid office, foster youth students were my number one case openers, and if they couldn't afford the cost of attendance, they dropped out. So please support the bill. Thank you.
- Paige Clark
Person
Paige Clark, on behalf of the California Alliance of Child and Family Services, in support. Thank you.
- Karen Shea
Person
Good morning. On behalf of Northern California Network, FASD Network. My name is Karen Shea. I have a foster youth that actually came back to live with us so he can go to school, but we're in strong support of this bill. Thank you.
- Adam Keigwin
Person
Madam Chair and Senators, my apologies. Adam Keigwin again. I just got a text on behalf of the California Charter Schools Association, also in support.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you. Wonderful. Thank you very much. Seeing no other witnesses in support, we'll now move on to witnesses, lead witnesses in opposition. Do we have any lead witnesses in opposition? Okay. Seeing none, we'll hear from other opposition witnesses here in room 2100. Seeing none. Thank you. Now we move on to witnesses waiting to testify via the teleconference services. Mr. Moderator, if you would, please prompt the individuals waiting to testify in support or opposition of SB 307 and we will begin.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. If you have not already done so and wish to testify, you may press one, followed by zero again using your telephone keypad. Press one, then zero at this time. We do have several lines in queue. We'll go first to line 123. Please go ahead.
- Ashley Walker
Person
Thank you, Chair and Members. Ashley Walker with Nossaman on behalf of North Orange County Community College District, Mount San Antonio College, and Citrus College in support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next we have line 201. 201.
- Adam Gottlieb
Person
Thank you, Chair and Members. Adam Gottlieb of UNITE-LA in support of SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 18, please go ahead.
- Rachel Carr
Person
Good morning. My name is Rachel Carr. I am a child protective services social worker for Sonoma County Family, Youth & Children's Services, and I strongly support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 41, your line is open. 41.
- Danielle Wondra
Person
Hi, this is Danielle Wondra with Children Now, calling in support of SB 307. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 206, your line is open. 206.
- Katherine Pitts
Person
Hi, my name is Katherine Pitts. I'm with Sonoma County Families and Children Child Protective Services, and I support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
23, your line is open.
- Megan Eaton
Person
Hi, my name is Megan Eaton. I'm calling on behalf of Pivotal, and I support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
We have line 65.
- Charly Beavers
Person
Hi, my name is Charly King Beavers. I'm the Director of the Berkeley Hope Scholars, the foster youth success program at UC Berkeley. I strongly support SB 307. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 32.
- Marisela Arroyo
Person
Hi, my name is Marisela Arroyo, and I am with Merced County Human Services Agency, the Independent Living Program Coordinator. And I strongly support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next we have line 53. 53.
- Sylvia Hernandez
Person
Sylvia Hernandez with the National Association of Social Work, and we are in support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
We'll go to line 117.
- Cherie Schroeder
Person
Good afternoon, this is Cherie Schroeder. I am a California resource parent of Transitional Age Youth. On behalf of all of the young people that have lived with me, I'm also the Coordinator of Woodland Community College's Independent Living Program. On behalf of the college and all of our youth that have gone through these programs, we're fully in support of this. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Our next comment comes in line 39.
- Katie Bliss
Person
Hi, this is Katie Bliss from the Youth Law Center. On behalf of the Youth Law Center, we support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 204, your line is open. 204.
- Azadeh Iglesias
Person
Hi, this is Azadeh Iglesias with Norco College Phoenix Scholars NextUP program. And I am in support of SB 307. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
We have line 168. Your line is open.
- Zoe Corwin
Person
Hello, my name is Dr. Zoe Corwin. I'm representing the University of Southern California. Specifically the Pullias Center for Higher Education. We are in strong support of SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next is line 202.
- Amanda Kirchner
Person
Good morning. This is Amanda Kirchner with the County Welfare Directors Association, and we are in strong support of SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we'll go to line 19. We do have several other lines queuing up for the equivalent of coming to the podium. It'll be just a moment. Line 19, please start over.
- Meredith Curry Nuñez
Person
Thank you. Good morning. My name is Meredith Curry Nuñez. I'm with the Northern California College Promise Coalition. We have over 40 members serving students across 12 counties. I strongly support SB 307. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next is line 16. 16.
- Carol Lasquade Macintire
Person
Hi, my name is Carol Lasquade MacIntire. I am a foster youth counselor at College of the Desert, and I strongly support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 54, please go ahead.
- Vance Edwards
Person
Hello, my name is Vance Edwards. I oversee the NextUP program at Butte College. I want to voice my support for SB 307. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
We have line 29. 29, please go ahead.
- Francisco Zamudio
Person
Hello, my name is Francisco Zamudio. I'm the Director of Education at United Friends of the Children, serving over 300 current and former foster youth grade six through completion of college, and I am calling in to support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 101, your line is open.
- Dalia Sierra
Person
Hello, my name is Dalia Sierra with On The Move VOICES Youth Center, and I support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next is line 43.
- Julissa Castillo
Person
Hello, I am Julissa Castillo with Together We Rise - Foster Love. And we are in support of SB 307. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Now we have line 205. A slight delay, my apologies. Line 205, your line is open.
- Rodd Monts
Person
Good morning. My name is Rodd Monts. I'm the Director of State Policy for SchoolHouse Connection, and we support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. We have three more lines in queue. One moment, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Our next comment comes from line 22. Your line is open.
- Vimal Srivastava
Person
Hi. This is Vimal Srivastava from Power to Soar Foundation. President. I'm in support. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
We'll go now to line number 69. 69, your line is open.
- Oluwatosin Williams
Person
Hello?
- Committee Moderator
Person
Yes, you may proceed.
- Oluwatosin Williams
Person
Hello. My name is Oluwatosin Williams. I'm the Coordinator of Student Services at Compton College, and I am here to support Senate Bill 307. Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And we'll go to line 208.
- Anafe Robinson
Person
Hello. Good morning. My name is Anafe Robinson. I'm the Financial Aid Director at LA Pierce College, and I'm also the foster youth liaison for our region, and I strongly support SB 307.
- Committee Moderator
Person
With that, there are no further comments in queue at this time.
- Josh Newman
Person
That is it, and I am back. So thank you to the Vice Chair for covering for me while I was presenting my bills. Let us come back to the Committee. Any Members of Committee with questions or comments for the author? Senator Cortese, go ahead.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Just a comment. Appreciate the author bringing this bill forward. I'm proud to be a coauthor, and of course, I will be an aye vote. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Anybody else? Senator Wilk.
- Scott Wilk
Person
So, Senator, in your opening comments, you said this is a bipartisan bill, and I want everybody to know that it is a bipartisan bill. If you currently read it, there's no Republicans on there, but I am a coauthor and I will be added whenever it gets amended. I'm not going to reiterate the stats that you went through because they're just frightening, but if you talk to the Department of Corrections, they project about 20 percent of the prison population is former foster youth.
- Scott Wilk
Person
And I represent Northern LA County, San Bernardino County. My LA County portion, one out of every three foster youth in the county is in my district. And pre-Covid, myself and Assemblyman Lackey used to do regular lunches with foster youth. They hear their stories, and the instability in these kids' lives is just unbelievable. And I'm somebody--government's my last option. It's family. And these kids don't have family and then it's, you know, church, synagogue, mosques, nonprofits.
- Scott Wilk
Person
But there is a role for government to stand in the gap when there's no one there to help. So this is to help people up. It's not a handout. And we had an earlier proposal, I think, last year. I think it's from Senator Cortese. I posted on Facebook, and people were calling me a communist, and I'm not a communist, but you want to help a young person get mainstream into society or do you want to incarcerate them at 85,000 dollars a year and destroy their lives and others? So thank you for doing this, and proud to be a coauthor of the bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
All right. And so, Senator Wilk, I'm glad you did clarify that you're not a communist. Once these rumors get started--any other Members of the Committee? So I will say--oh, I'm sorry. Senator Ochoa Bogh?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Oh, no. Just grateful. We've been working---this is my third year in the Senate, and we've been working diligently with many of my colleagues, both on the Republican side and the Democrat side, with regards to policy supporting our foster youth. They are, quite frankly--and I don't want to reiterate your comments--but I completely agree with you that there is a role for government to give them that support because circumstances leave them on their own. I'm grateful for this work.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
If I'm not already added as a coauthor, be happy to be a coauthor as well in this bill. Thank you very much for the work, that you're doing this, and thank you to Senator McGuire for the joint collaboration.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
Thank you for your help, all of you.
- Josh Newman
Person
And so, for my part, my wife and I both served as CASAs, court appointed special advocates to foster kids, and so I had firsthand insight into just how challenging all those thousands of lives become. And so I couldn't be more sympathetic, and I salute anybody who either works in this system or is advocating on behalf of the children in it. I do have a comment, and it relates not to the objective of the bill, but the source of the funds.
- Josh Newman
Person
And the source of the funds is the Middle-Class Scholarship Funds. That program was deliberately designed to provide relief for that middle band of Californians who often feel neglected. The cost of living in the state's so high. If you're wealthy here, you're fine. If you are at the bottom of the wage scale, we do lots of things for you. And so the MCS was actually intended as an offset, especially given how education is. So if this becomes law, the funds drawn here will dilute the amounts available for the MCS. I think that's important to consider. So, a quick response from you.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
Sure.
- Josh Newman
Person
On that.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
If we do nothing with the budget, you're right. It will dilute by 61 dollars per individual who are getting the Middle-Class Scholarship. They would each get 61 dollars less in order for us to fully cover foster youth. However, it is mine and Senator McGuire's hope that either the Governor's augmentation to the Middle-Class Scholarship, which he did add in his budget letter or an augmentation from this Senate through our Appropriations and Budget process, would offset this entirely, taking nothing away from the existing recipients of the Middle-Class Scholarship. And we have had conversations in that regard, both here in the Senate and in the Governor's office.
- Josh Newman
Person
And I hope that that's possible. Everybody here is aware this is going to be a challenging fiscal landscape. Senator Glazer.
- Steven Glazer
Person
This is a happy coauthor of this bill. I'm happy to move it at the appropriate time.
- Josh Newman
Person
Well done. We have a motion. Would you like to close, Senator Ashby?
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
Yeah. Just one point of privilege, this bill is special to me. It's my first bill, and it's in honor of my dad. My dad was the head of foster care for the State of California for many years. He was raised in a foster home, but not as a foster youth.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
My grandparents ran a foster home, so all of my aunts are former foster youth. And my dad really grew to feel like that was a community he wanted to spend his life protecting. My dad passed away in 2020. This is me continuing his legacy of work, with your help. I urge an aye vote, and thank you very much.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. We have a motion from Senator Glazer. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File Item Four: SB 307: Ashby. Motion is 'do pass, but first be re-referred to the Committee on Human Services.' [Roll Call].
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill has five votes. We'll hold it open for the time being. I see Senator Skinner is here.
- Angelique Ashby
Legislator
Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Senator Seyarto is not. So, Senator Skinner, welcome. And if you give me a moment. Senator Skinner, you are presenting SB 348. Please proceed.
- Nancy Skinner
Person
Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman, Members. So California proudly, and I'm sure all of us are really proud of this. Started the first in the nation, universal school meals, where every K through 12 student at our public schools gets two free school meals a day. Now, for many of our kids, that's probably. We're supplying more than half the calories they're going to eat in a day. And our meals, we're doing our best to make them healthy and nutritious. But our current guidelines are lacking.
- Nancy Skinner
Person
And what SB 348 does is strengthen our nutrition guidelines for California school meals for all. We now have the Federal Government recommending some new guidelines based on doctors advice for sugar and salt. That's added sugar and added salt. And the reason this is important to do is because both of those added sugar and salt in our food can create negative health outcomes, including diabetes, hypertension, a variety of other things. And we know now that diabetes the amount of increase is almost epidemic.
- Nancy Skinner
Person
And especially among our children. So what SB 38 does is put in place the recommended guidelines for added sugar and salt levels, requires schools to give children adequate time to eat, allows for those are older students to get an extra main dish in the meal if they need it, and maximizes and expands on our new federal summer childhood nutrition programs.
- Nancy Skinner
Person
And with that, I would like to have my witnesses, Erin Primer, who is the certified Dietary Manager and Director of Food and Nutrition for the San Luis Coastal Unified School District, and Dr. Al-Sarraf, who is an internal medicine physician at Asian Pacific Healthcare Venture.
- Erin Primer
Person
Thank you. Good afternoon Chair Newman and honorable Members of the Committee. My name is Erin Primer and I am the Director of Food and Nutrition Services at San Luis Coastal, a K-12 district on the beautiful central coast of California with 15 school sites, 7600 students and just under 40% free and reduced. Since the pandemic and launch of universal free meals in California, we've seen a 52% increase in our daily meal participation.
- Erin Primer
Person
Together, my team serves over 12,000 meals each day across breakfast, lunch and supper programs. This increased revenue from universal free meals has not only resulted in additional funding for high quality, locally sourced foods, but also new equipment and the opportunity to hire and train more staff. The formula is simple. Good food plus free food equals increased meal participation and a better school meal program plus happy kids.
- Erin Primer
Person
This important legislation before you today aims to align the nutritional standards of school meals with what is medically proven to be the best for children's learning, wellness and long term quality of life. One thing we know for sure is that hungry kids can't learn, but equally important is the quality of those meals. Access to daily, consistent, nutritious food is critical to support cognitive development and mental acuity, especially when we know that for many kids, school is where they get their primary source of food every day.
- Erin Primer
Person
Why would we not do everything within our power to ensure those meals are delicious, healthy and desired by our students? The proposed changes in this Bill may seem overwhelming at first. In fact, we all felt the same trepidation and uncertainty with the Healthy Hunger Free Kids Act of 2010. But we all rose to the challenge. Not only was it the right thing to do back then, it is the right thing to do now.
- Erin Primer
Person
SB 348 is the opportunity to support schools in advancing our shared goal of truly nourishing all California kids. Intentionally shifting our procurement and building relationships with local growers to source fresh ingredients to create delicious meals takes time, but is possible. We work with the local bakery to create delicious school products like a low sugar chocolate muffin that kids love and meet our nutritional needs, which has removed 15 pounds of added sugar from our students diet annually.
- Erin Primer
Person
In conclusion, I respectfully urge the Senate Education Committee to support SB 348. This not only builds upon what we've started with school meals for all, but also takes us to where we need to go to ensure the best chance for our children's future success and well being. Thank you for the opportunity to provide feedback on this critical policy matter.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next witness, please, and welcome Dr. Sarraf.
- Lena Al-Sarraf
Person
Good morning, Chair Newman and honorable Members of the Committee. I'm Dr. Lena Al-Serraf and I work at a school based health clinic near downtown Los Angeles, behind a high school and property shared by the LAUSD. I've been in practice for more than 30 years and have seen an alarming increase in obesity and type two diabetes among children and youth.
- Lena Al-Sarraf
Person
I also work with the student advisory board at Belmont High School, giving presentations on diabetes and obesity, and they in turn use social media to promote health education among their peers. I am pleased to be here today as I have seen firsthand the impact poor nutrition and food insecurity has on our children and community. Currently, one third of children are not only at an unhealthy weight, but are also at increased risk of developing heart disease and type two diabetes.
- Lena Al-Sarraf
Person
Youth now have health conditions previously only associated with adults, like high blood pressure and high cholesterol. A contributing factor is poor nutrition and diet. I have witnessed cases of type two diabetes and prediabetes in youth, which was unheard of while practicing in my earlier years. I have seen cases of type two diabetes in children as young as 12 years old, which really was eye opening.
- Lena Al-Sarraf
Person
The child was not emotionally equipped to handle or comprehend the scope of her condition and besides the normal pre adolescent issues she had to deal with, this was one more thing. It was a struggle for the family to ensure compliance with medication and diet and took an emotional toll on both. I also witnessed this when I had a three year old patient with high blood pressure. Children consume far too much sodium and added sugars and too few fruits and vegetables, for example, about 35%.
- Lena Al-Sarraf
Person
Only 35% of children meet the dietary guidelines for Americans added sugar recommendations. Given that many kids get most of their meals at school, we need to ensure they are nutritious. In conclusion, I flew up from Los Angeles to support this Bill because establishing school meal standards would promote a positive food environment and establish a foundation for a lifetime of healthy behaviors. I'm asking you and urging you to support SB 348, a critical Bill to address the health crisis, invest in the health of our children, and promote nutrition from an early age. And I want to thank you for giving me this opportunity to testify.
- Josh Newman
Person
And thank you. Dr. Al-Sarraf, is there anybody else in the witness Committee room would like to testify in person in support of the measure, SB 348?
- Mary Diaz
Person
Hi. MJ Diaz on behalf of Kaiser Permanente. In support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Sarah Nocito
Person
Good afternoon. Sarah Nocito on behalf of State Superintendent Tony Thurmond. He's a proud co sponsor of SB 348 and urges your aye vote. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Andrew Antwih
Person
Mr. Chairman and Members Andrew Antwhi, from Shahya to Antweeger and Lang, on behalf of the office of Kat Taylor and Tomcat Ranch, proud to be co sponsors of this measure. Thank the author.
- Andrew Antwih
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Jamie Morgan-Persinger
Person
Hi, I'm Jamie Morgan with the American Heart Association, and we are proud to be a co sponsor of this Bill. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Ms. Morgan. Next, please.
- Timothy Madden
Person
Thank you, Chair and Members, Tim Madden, representing the California chapter of the American College of Cardiology in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Madden. Next, please.
- Melissa Sigun
Person
Hello, Mr. Chairman, Members. On behalf of the Californians for Pesticide Reform and Pesticide Action Network in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. You never said your name.
- Melissa Sigun
Person
Melissa Sigun.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Melissa.
- Alexis Rodriguez
Person
Alexis Rodriguez with the California Medical Association, in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Adam Keigwin
Person
Mr. Chair and Senators, Adam Keigwin, on behalf of No Kid Hungry. Proud to be a co sponsor and urge your aye vote. Thank you.
- Yarelie Magallon
Person
Good afternoon. Yarelie Magallon, here today on behalf of San Mateo County Board of Supervisors and the California Dental Association. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you.
- Itzúl Gutierrez
Person
Hi. Itzúl Gutierrez with the California Association of Food Banks, proud co sponsor and supporter of SB 348.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Is anybody here in the Committee room would like to testify in opposition to SB 348? Seeing none, let's go to the teleconference line. Mr. Moderator, if you could, please cue anyone who'd like to testify either in support of or in opposition to SB 348.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. To share your testimony on this Bill, please press one, followed by zero on your telephone keypad. We'll go first to line 164.
- Kevan Insko
Person
Hello, this is Kevan Insco with the Friends Committee on Legislation of California, in strong support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Committee Moderator
Person
We have 198.
- Beth Spitler
Person
Hi, this is Beth with the California Food and Farming Network and support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Committee Moderator
Person
139.
- Raquel Yafi
Person
Hi, this is Raquel Yafi with the California Alternative Payment Program Association, in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Committee Moderator
Person
216.
- Bella Mullen
Person
Hi, this is Bella Mullen from the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank, in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
217.
- Matthew Hurley
Person
Hi, this is Matthew Hurley with the Community Action Partnership of Orange County in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
218.
- Eliana Bender
Person
Eliana Bender on behalf of Glide in San Francisco in strong support of SB 348. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
220.
- Meg Davidson
Person
Meg Davidson with the San Francisco Marin Food Bank in strong support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody left on the teleconference line?
- Committee Moderator
Person
We have about four in queue, sir.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next, we have 221.
- Rachel Monaco
Person
Good afternoon, this is Rachel Monaco on behalf of Second Harvest of Silicon Valley in strong support. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 53.
- Sylvia Hernandez
Person
Sylvia Hernandez with the National Association of Social Workers, California chapter and we are in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
215.
- Lee Angela Reid
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Members. Lee Angela Reid, on behalf of the California School Nutrition Association, while we don't have a formal position yet, as we were still reviewing the amendment, we want to thank the Senator for her leadership on universal meals and look forward to the Bill moving forward and continuing to work with her. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Next, we have line 200.
- Rachel Mueller
Person
Thank you Chair and Members, Rachel Mueller on behalf of Next Gen California in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Finally, 223.
- Kimberly Rosenberger
Person
Kimberly Rosenberger with SEIU in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Let's bring it back to the Committee. Committee Members, any comments or questions for the author?
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
A happy co author of the Bill, and I move the Bill when the time is appropriate.
- Josh Newman
Person
Fair enough. Senator Wilk?
- Scott Wilk
Person
Yeah. I know it's been a long day, but I mean, this is a great Bill. Plan to support it today. I know for me, I grew up working class and left my neighborhood like 50 years ago. And I recently went back to my elementary school because I was able to get them a Barona Education Grant for their computer coding program to help those kids. But they're doing a tour with the principal. They're now at three meals a day there because they need to.
- Scott Wilk
Person
And good food is expensive. And then also a lot of times I don't think these kids are probably getting the proper nutritional training to get them through life. So I think this is really important because I don't know how you learn on an empty stomach. So I think this is a great Bill. Happy to be added at appropriate time as a co author, if you're so willing. Thank you.
- Nancy Skinner
Person
More than happy to add you as co author.
- Josh Newman
Person
I appreciate that. And so I think we have. Would you like to close, Senator Skinner?
- Nancy Skinner
Person
Yes, thank you. I just appreciate the comments by my colleagues and obviously the good testimony from the witnesses. And with that, I ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. We have a motion from Senator Ochoa Bogh. Madam Secretary, please call the roll file.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Item nine, SB 348, Skinner motion is due pass but be re referred to the Committee on Human Services. [Roll Call].
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Senator Skinner. Next up we have Senator Seyarto. Welcome and appreciate your patience.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And I.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And I appreciate your patience as well as we run in and out. So thank you, Honorable Chair. I'm here to present SB 342. This is a subject that is near and dear to my heart because it has made a huge impact in my life and I would like to see it make an impact in other people's lives as well.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
SB 342 will ensure the instructional Quality Commission for the State of California, shall include financial literacy and K through 12 education in the next revision of the curriculum framework without creating an additional class. Under current law, the State Instructional Quality Commission charged with creating curriculum within California is directed only to consider including financial literacy content for K through 12. However, the financial literacy content that has been actually created has been very limited, if it exists at all.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
The federal national assessment of educational progress found that K through 12 students today, on average, are becoming less educated, lower skilled, and less productive adults. With the learning loss experienced during the pandemic and the shortage of workers in all categories of unemployment, many students are opting to pursue career technical education and a quick entry into the workforce as an alternative to years of a formal college education.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
It is imperative for our young people graduating from high school to have financial literacy skills already ingrained in them, and the place for them to obtain those skills is prior to graduating from high school, so they may better be equipped to start their adult lives with one of the most valuable tools or skills they can have, which is how to manage their finances.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Research has shown that students who have access to high quality financial education have better financial outcomes as adults, resulting in less debt and a higher quality of life. This applies to both students who choose a higher education path or a technical career education path. Nationwide, there is a growing movement to provide financial education for the next generation of students and California cannot afford to fall behind.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
According to a NextGen personal finance report, while 70% of high school students nationwide have access to personal finance elective or a guaranteed course, in California, only 26% of California's students participate in what is mostly an elective course. AB 166 by Assembly Member Hernandez in 2013 actually set the precedent for financial literacy to be included in subsequent revisions of the curriculum framework for history, social science, mathematics, and health to include financial literacy.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
However, the state Instructional Quality Commission charged with creating the curriculum here in California is directed only to consider including financial literacy content for K through 12. Unfortunately, this financial literacy content has not been fully incorporated. SB 342 would necessitate the inclusion of financial literacy education periodically throughout K through 12 schooling. With a slight tweak in language from "shall consider including it" to "shall include it."
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Addressing financial literacy in the classroom will expose students to basic life skills and allow them to hit the ground running as young adults. This is especially a critical moment to prioritize financial literacy as rising inflation begins forcing California families to face tough economic choices. Financial literacy will give California students the tools they need to become financially educated and aware of how finances impact every aspect of their lives, setting California students up for future success.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I did not bring any witnesses today as the witnesses that I wanted to call had scheduling conflicts. So with that, I would ask for your aye vote when the time comes.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Is anybody here in the Committee hearing would like testify on behalf of the bill? And since we have no key witness, you're welcome, but please do keep your comments brief.
- Jeffrey Vaca
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Jeff Vaca, representing the Riverside County Superintendent of Schools in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, sir.
- Kathleen Van Osten
Person
Kathy Van Osten, representing the American Association of University Women California. And I'll take a little bit of advantage of the extra time. As we discussed supporting this bill, one of the most important things that we talked about was what skills young people need moving forward in life. And while math is important, history is important, English is important, the things that really do get used from the time they are out the gate is financial literacy.
- Kathleen Van Osten
Person
And we see young people getting credit card applications, getting into debt for decades sometimes. I'll have to admit, I was probably one of those. So we are grateful that the Senator is taking this seriously and really appreciate your authorship, and we support the bill.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. I appreciate your testimony. Next witness. Your name, your organization, and your position on the bill, please.
- Pamela Gibbs
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Senators. Pamela Gibbs, representing the Los Angeles County Office of Education. We strongly support the bill for the reasons previously stated.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Is anybody here in opposition, like to speak in opposition to the bill? Seeing none, let's go to the teleconference line. Ms. Moderator, if you could cue participants, both in support of an opposition of the bill.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. If you are in support or in opposition, please press one followed by zero at this time. One followed by zero, and we will go to line 226. Please go ahead. Line 226. Are you muted? Line 226. We'll move on to the next one with an operator. One moment please, Mr. Chair. Line 226, would you like to go? We can hear you. All right, we'll move on to 30. Line 30, please. Go ahead.
- Emily Udell
Person
Emily Udell with the California Credit Union League in support.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And that's all the participants in queue, Mr. Chair.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Let's come back to the Committee. Any questions or comments from Committee Members? Senator Wilk, please.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a great bill. I know when I was in high school, sophomore year, one semester health, one semester, I don't even know what they called it. But you learned how to do checkbook. You learned about the power of compound interest and all those things that are actually real tools that benefit you as you move through life. I was reading an article last week that the average person who's around my age, who's coming up on retirement has $10,000 in savings.
- Scott Wilk
Person
I'm not sure how you retire if you only have $10,000 in savings. So this is really important. This is something I've been concerned about for a long time and salute you for pressing forward on it. I know a lot of schools, a number of my schools, they have volunteer programs, and they're wildly popular with the students because they do want to learn this stuff. So I'm hoping you're successful with this effort, and again, salute you for doing it.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Anybody else here? Go ahead, Senator Ochoa Bogh.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
Thank you, Senator Seyarto. I've also been an advocate for financial literacy at all stages of our life because, you know, as Senator Wilk mentioned earlier, we have many seniors who are not financially literate because they haven't had an opportunity or have seen or have been informed of the need for it. And seeing a lot of seniors, the hardest thing for me to see is many of our seniors struggling because they're not financially prepared to retire and they think they're just not aware.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
And so the earlier we start with financial literacy, I think the better we are. I'm surprised that we haven't done that as a state on an earlier. But thank you for taking the lead. And if I'm not already a co-author, I'd be happy to be a co-author in this bill as.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Anybody else? Senator Seyarto, for my part, I want to commend you on the effort, and I think the need in this support for this is validated by kind of the breadth of your witnesses, also the support from the Committee. We have a policy across both houses of the Legislature with respect to curriculum, and it's because we have vested in the Instructional Quality Commission the responsibility for developing curriculum in California. And typically the Legislature makes recommendations for them to consider as opposed to include specific content.
- Josh Newman
Person
And so for that reason, despite my support for the broader goal, I'm going to be a no vote. And I apologize for that. But that is the policy, and it's deliberate because of the complexity that curriculum development and implementation entails. So the ICQ is actually in the process of updating the curriculum. That process is underway.
- Josh Newman
Person
So as a practical matter, my understanding is that even if this passes, that your curriculum suggestion won't be incorporated into that process until the next cycle, in which case that won't be included in education curriculum until 2032. That's the nature of these things, unfortunately. And we need to revisit kind of wholesale the system. But as it stands, that's the way it works. So I apologize by way of my no vote. Do we have a motion?
- Scott Wilk
Person
Well, I want to comment and then.
- Josh Newman
Person
Go ahead, Senator Wilk.
- Scott Wilk
Person
So that's why I voted no when that came before us. In my opinion. We're the policymakers. We're here to represent the people. And so that's why I voted no when we had that on our first session, because some people ask, why'd you vote no? It's because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I think we need to do stuff like this, and that's really discouraging. And I understand your position, which I'm fine with, but not till 2032? Oh my gosh.
- Josh Newman
Person
Well, that doesn't mean it won't be included in the next curriculum update. It means that even if we passed this bill, it would not be included.
- Scott Wilk
Person
That's something we need to take a look at.
- Josh Newman
Person
I think that's fair. Having said that.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
So if we did support the bill today, it actually just carries a message that this body, this Committee, or this body would actually support the policy of financial literacy as a whole and want to see that in the near future.
- Josh Newman
Person
Now, if the bill is passed today and winds up passing all the way through, it specifically directs the ICQ to make that change. Right. So clearly that contains within it support for the broader effort.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
But I'm just saying the technicality of the no vote versus maybe an aye vote from the Chair might just be.
- Josh Newman
Person
I'm well aware of that. Like I said, it's not that I don't support the broader goal.
- Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh
Legislator
No, I completely agree with you.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
If I may?
- Josh Newman
Person
Please do.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
All right. The next curriculum update is in 2024, so they may be starting to work that I know this, my best friend is part of that so he keeps me apprised of what's going on in curriculum development world. Last year, we added not just a suggestion for courses or suggestion for content within our already existing framework. We added a course, a mandatory course for high school students to have to take and pass before they can graduate from high school.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
That sounds a lot like we were adding to the curriculum, which is what you expressed concern over. I would offer that what we are suggesting today is simply incorporating what has already been almost directed by this body in 2013 and 2016 with an update. It's saying, you know what? It's been eight years. You went through a cycle already and didn't do this. It's time to do this. Our students need this, and I'll finish with this.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I alluded to this being something that was really important in my life, and when I was young, we were poor. And when my mom passed away, we were even more poor. But I had a dad who had financial literacy skills. He took what little we had left. He was a teacher, by the way, and so were almost everybody in my family. He took what little we had left and managed to hold onto a house, raise three kids, and teach them their financial literacy skills.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And those skills are what I used when I graduated from high school. Didn't know what I wanted to do, trying to recover from a lot of childhood stuff, but I had those. And so I was never out on the street as a homeless kid. I understood how not to get into debt, how to manage money, and how to live within your means. And that's all financial literacy is doing, is teaching people the basic skills that they need to accomplish that.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
And we are telling the State Quality or the State Commission on Education that, you know what? 2023 is the year that you need to start doing this for the next curriculum update. Because our students are suffering. Look at their student debt. Look at what's happening to them in high school and college. They are going out onto the street because we have not taught them that.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I had the benefit of a dad who knew how to do it, and he had the benefit of a dad who used to work for LA Unified School District as an accountant. And you know what? Passing that along to me was great, but you know what? He couldn't pass it along to a bunch of others. I had that benefit. But there's a lot of people that don't. And a lot of people are those people working in communities that I used to represent.
- Kelly Seyarto
Legislator
I want those kids to know what to do with their money, how to manage it, how not to get into debt. And I'll be darned if I'm going to let the Senate Education, not the Senate Education, the California Commission dictate what we parents and we as a citizenry, want our kids to learn. This is important. I've heard it a lot, and we need to incorporate it now. And I ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
And thank you, Senator Seyarto. We have a motion from Senator Ochoa Bogh. Madam Secretary, please call the role.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item eight, SB 342, Seyarto. Motion is do pass but first be re-referred to the Committee on Appropriations. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
All right, we will leave that measure open. Thank you, Senator Seyarto. And move to the next measure. I see Senator Dodd. Welcome, sir. You are here to present SB 808. You are welcome. Please proceed.
- Bill Dodd
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Members. I would like to begin by thanking you and your staff for the work on the bill. And we'll be accepting the technical amendment recommended on page seven of the analysis. SB 808 will increase transparency and accountability in California State University campuses by providing additional oversight and approval of any sexual harassment settlements, limiting retreat rights for senior administrators who have violated Title IX policies, and requiring detailed reporting, public reporting of sexual harassment complaints lodged at each campus.
- Bill Dodd
Person
Members, I think we've all seen a barrage of articles and heard unsettling accounts of sexual harassment and abuse that have been mishandled or swept under the rug at campuses across the state. This systemic mishandling of harassment and abuse has eroded public trust in our CSU system and caused students, faculty, and staff to suffer. In recognition of these pervasive problems, the CSU recently adopted policies to restrict employment practices that would provide options to retreat to a faculty position, and this bill would seek to codify those policies.
- Bill Dodd
Person
The seriousness of this problem cannot be understated and is reflected in the state audit currently underway. I anticipate the resulting report, due this June, may inform important policy recommendation relevant to this bill. The analysis also identifies several important points of consideration, including adding greater specificity to the applicability and handling of settlements and reporting language, and I'm committed to working on these issues with stakeholders and the Committee staff as this bill moves forward.
- Bill Dodd
Person
The goal here is to advance important protections for students, faculty, and staff and ensure the bill captures meaningful and transparent data necessary to advance system wide improvements and real change. I have two witnesses to speak in support of this bill today. Terry Wilson, the Vice President for Finance for the CSU Employees Union, and a staff member at Fresno State who has personally experienced harassment there, and also Dr. Andrea Terry, assistant Professor of Communication Studies at CSU Sacramento.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Senator Dodd. Witnesses, please. Mr. Wilson, welcome.
- Terry Wilson
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, and Members. Thank you for this opportunity to speak in support of SB 808. I would like to thank Senator Dodd for bringing this important legislation forward. Thank you. My name is Terry Wilson. I'm the Vice President for Finance for the California State University Employees Union, which represents 16,000 non faculty and staff at the CSU.
- Terry Wilson
Person
In addition to my role with CSU, I have worked at Fresno State since 2007, and I'd like to share with you my personal experience with the Title IX system there. Between 2014 and 2015, I was a student affairs analyst at Fresno State and a supervisor who began harassing me the very first week on my job. After I reported him to the HR Director to Title IX coordinators for inappropriate comments towards me, including asking me if I was gay, his harassment only escalated.
- Terry Wilson
Person
He bullied, threatened, and was physically aggressive towards me. As part of his retaliation, he also prevented me from transferring out to another department. This went on for years. Despite my continuous reports about his behavior, he was never formally investigated, and I eventually had to accept a demotion just to escape his abuses.
- Terry Wilson
Person
The CSU's failure to address my supervisor's behavior derailed my career at Fresno State, and I truly believe that I would have been prevented if stronger protections, including those in SB 808, had been placed back then. SB 808 will bring desperately needed change to the CSU's Title IX system, where systemic lack of transparency and accountability has fed into a power imbalance that has allowed complaints to be ignored while abusers have been rewarded.
- Terry Wilson
Person
Everyone who steps foot onto a CSU campus deserves to live, work, and learn in a safe environment, and we believe this bill is the first step towards achieving that. We know the State Auditor has taken steps to review the CSU's mishandling of sexual harassment complaints, and the CSU has also begun to change its policies. But codifying these efforts will ensure that they stand the test of time. For these reasons, we respectfully request your aye vote on this. Thank you very much.
- Josh Newman
Person
And thank you, Mr. Wilson. Next up, Dr. Terry, please.
- Andrea Terry
Person
Thank you. Good morning, Chair Newman and Members of the Senate Education Committee. Thank you so much for bringing this critical issue forward. My name is Dr. Andrea Terry, and I'm currently a Professor of Communication Studies at Sacramento State University. I'm also formerly a full time lecturer at Cal Poly SLO and an alumni of both of those institutions. And I want to start by asking, how many scandals do we need to experience? At Humboldt State, a dean groped two students, and retreat rights made him unfireable.
- Andrea Terry
Person
At Sonoma State, the president was forced to resign due to another sexual harassment scandal. This incident brought hundreds of students, faculty, and staff activists out to the campus to call for change. We also saw this at the very top of our system, where Chancellor Castro, because of retreat rights, will be returning to the halls of the CSU campus.
- Andrea Terry
Person
CSU executives have spoken at length about how seriously they take the need for reform of the Title IX incident handling and how we should just trust them to take the steps. However, just a few weeks ago, the press broke stories about lawsuits against the interim chancellor over Title IX issues. So them telling us to just trust them to take action isn't very comforting or convincing. I want to emphasize this by quickly addressing the need for meaningful data and oversight as part of this legislation process.
- Andrea Terry
Person
Based on an experience that I had with a student. When I was a lecturer at Cal Poly SLO, a young woman in my public speaking class confided in me about being sexually assaulted in her dorm room during her second quarter at Cal Poly. I encouraged her to report using the Title IX system. She went through this emotionally grueling and time-consuming process, only to have a change in staff at the Title IX office the following academic year. Somehow, her information was lost.
- Andrea Terry
Person
It fell between the cracks, and she was forced to go through this process and relive her trauma all over again just to try and move forward with her case. During this time, the campus's response had been to move her to a different dorm so she didn't have to see her assailant. However, she still saw him on campus on an almost daily basis. When I left Cal Poly to take a position at Sacramento State, her case still had not been resolved nearly three years later.
- Andrea Terry
Person
The last time I spoke to the student, she was despondent and on the verge of leaving the University. Her story and many others like it are not captured in the current reporting system. This is just one example of the flawed reporting system that we have an opportunity to change, and for that reason, I ask for your aye votes. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you very much. Is there anybody in the Committee here who would like to testify on behalf of the measure? Please proceed, Mr. Rapp.
- Ron Rapp
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Members. Ron Rapp, speaking on behalf of the California Faculty Association and we are proud co-sponsors of this important legislation. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Isabeau 'Izzy' C. Swindler
Person
Izzy Swindler on behalf of Solano Board of Supervisors, in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody else? Seeing no one. Anybody here would like testify in opposition to the measure?
- Maggie White
Person
I'm sorry. I was a little too slow to get in behind the support.
- Josh Newman
Person
You have to testify in opposition. No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.
- Maggie White
Person
But I'll stay silent. No. Thank you, Chair Newman. I'm Maggie White with the California State University. We do not yet have a position on the bill, but I do want to express my sincere thanks to Senator Dodd, his staff, and the sponsors for our engagement over the last month or two. We sincerely appreciate Senator Dodd's work to make our campuses and our CSU system a better and safer place for everyone on it. We look forward to continuing our engagement with you and your staff. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Let's go to the teleconference line, Mr. Moderator. Anybody one who wants to testify on behalf of or in opposition to SB 808.
- Committee Moderator
Person
If you are in some support or opposition to SB 808, please press one followed by zero at this time. One followed by zero. One moment, Mr. Chair. And they're with an operator. One moment, Mr. Chair.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And we'll go to line 172. You are open.
- Josh Newman
Person
Go ahead, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
For anybody else, please press one zero. We'll go to line 229. Please go ahead. Line 230, you are open.
- Nikki Samaniego
Person
Hi, everyone. My name is Nikki Samaniego, and I'm a student at Cal State Fullerton in my last year. I'm calling in support of SB 808. Thank you all for hearing this, and I'm calling on behalf of the Cal State Student Association. Thank you so much.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Go Titans. Next up, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Nobody else is in queue.
- Josh Newman
Person
That's it. All right, thank you. Let's bring it back to the Committee. Any questions or comments for the author? Senator Glazer.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Thank you. Senator Dodd, I'm having some questions on the bill and hoping that you can provide some clarification. But let me just first say that these Title IX violations are terrible, in some cases horrific. So no disagreement about when these types of things happen that there should be accountability and consequences. So no issue there. We heard earlier that the CSU is taking action in this regard. So a part of me says, 'well, let's see what they are doing.'
- Steven Glazer
Person
And if they satisfy you, it seems like there seems to be some satisfaction in what they have done. Then there's the question of, 'does there really need to be a law here?' We empowered the trustees to run the system, and they seem to be acknowledging the problems that have occurred, and they seem to be doing something about it. So that's kind of my first question. The second part of that is that an audit is being done through the State Legislature to overtake our own, look at that.
- Steven Glazer
Person
It's not been completed yet, and that also raises a question about whether we're just fire ready, aim here. Should we just let that audit process go forward and we should take a look at it. And then I have some questions about due process. But let me take these first two. Maybe at the start we could have that conversation.
- Bill Dodd
Person
Look, and I think this is ready, aim, fire. We have seen that the CSU system has not put protections in place for students, faculty, and others around the campus. So I think it's critical that we are proactive on this, and as far as the audit's concerned, we have the opportunity to put something.
- Bill Dodd
Person
By the time the audit comes out, this bill may or may not yet even be in the Assembly, and we're certainly not going to turn our backs on any of the information from the audit because that will be instructive for how potentially this bill can be amended and amended both ways. If they find that something that we have in this bill is overreaching, we can perhaps pull that back, but if we find some new things in this audit that really need to be addressed that this bill has not addressed, we can address that as well.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Very good. But what in this bill has the trustees not approved? Noted in the analysis that they've approved new policies in July of 2022. What in your bill goes beyond what the trustees have done then?
- Bill Dodd
Person
Well, if we have one of our witnesses that might want to comment on that, all I'm saying is, since that time has come, we've had situations at CSU Maritime, we've had situations that have occurred at Sonoma State University, and others that just have not been addressed. So I just believe that in the end, these retreat rights and others--and again, if anybody, any of the experts want to get up and opine on that.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Right. Well, I'm happy to hear what those differences might be, but you understand and I do, that putting policies in place are one thing. Individual behavior is something else. And so while we could have gold standard policies in the CSU as we do in the Legislature for how we handle and deal with sexual harassment, doesn't mean that we can control how an individual wants to behave. And if they behave. So it's not about policy, then, the examples that you use. It's not about the policy that has been put in place. It's just about bad behavior, which we all acknowledge.
- Bill Dodd
Person
Yeah, but it's not only bad behavior. Look, we've had legislators in this with far fewer--we've had people that have been--convicted isn't the word--but found, in all likelihood, or even have been found that they have been guilty of the charges and then end up somewhere with a cush job somewhere in the CSU system, whereas we've had legislators that have never even been charged with a crime that, you know, been forced to resign. So to me, I think it shines daylight on a very serious situation.
- Bill Dodd
Person
And even with students sometimes, in the case of CSU Maritime in Vallejo in my district, where students don't even feel safe going to school, so this isn't just students, it's the overall ending up--the management either a: condoning the conduct or b: deciding that they're not going to do enough about it. So this is what, in fact, this bill will do.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Well, it goes back to the policies that your bill creates that are different than what are the policies that the CSU has created. Again, that's the heart of it. If someone makes a bad judgment or behaves incorrectly against the law, they obviously should be held accountable for it, but I'm going back to--this sets policy. So let me ask you specifically about the issue of policy. So the analysis says that you would eliminate retreat rights if you're simply accused of a crime, not you've been found guilty of a crime. Is that correct?
- Bill Dodd
Person
I don't believe that's correct.
- Steven Glazer
Person
So on page six of seven in the analysis, it says, 'the new policy includes the following guidance: an administrator will be ineligible to exercise the option--this is a retreat option--if there is a finding of misconduct or the administrator is under investigation for misconduct.' So that's what it says here. Just want to be clarified that, is that true or that's not true?
- Bill Dodd
Person
I'm not really clear on the specifics, but I would suggest it's the second part that you've got problem with. I would suggest if somebody is under investigation, they shouldn't get retreat rights until the investigation is concluded. So maybe we need to modify or amend that to make that more clear. But why should somebody that's under investigation with no conclusion yet to that investigation automatically gets sent off to some cush job when the investigation has not been able to be concluded?
- Steven Glazer
Person
But just to be clear on what I think you refer to as a cush job, this is a tenured faculty member who has agreed to take an assignment in the administration. And typically in those agreements are that if you leave that administrative job, you're not going to lose your tenured faculty position. So that's, as you--I guess you refer to it as a cush job. It's that they have retreat rights to continue to teach back at the university, right?
- Bill Dodd
Person
That doesn't change. Senator, I appreciate the line of questioning. That doesn't change my position on this bill that holds people accountable to the rules.
- Steven Glazer
Person
This is a case where you're just simply accused, not found. It's a due process question. Let me go on and ask you about a couple of examples.
- Bill Dodd
Person
But I think I made myself clear there that I don't think that somebody should be able to--until the investigation's concluded, why would you give them retreat rights? Until you find out what really happened?
- Steven Glazer
Person
Okay, so let's go to pragmatic examples. So we had a chancellor at the CSU who obviously made some bad judgments, and he had retreat rights to go back and teach at a university in the system. Under your bill, would that still be allowed? Would the chancellor be able to return to his teaching position at the university given the mistake that he made as chancellor?
- Bill Dodd
Person
First of all, I don't think he should or she should, but do we have an expert here that knows this bill that can get up and answer this question?
- Josh Newman
Person
I think that's a subjective judgment on your part here, Senator Dodd.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Well, in this case, the chancellor hadn't done anything inappropriate, except it was the review of someone who had done something inappropriate. So I'm trying to understand, under your bill, would that have eliminated his retreat rights?
- Josh Newman
Person
Sure. Ms. McLeod, go ahead.
- Vicky McLeod
Person
Vicky McLeod with CSU Employees Union, also Titans, Cal State Fullerton. Actually, Chancellor Castro was the president at the time at Fresno State of mishandling of Title IX and harassment. But during the investigation, when it all came out in the news, he then was currently the chancellor. But the inappropriateness that took place at Fresno State, that damaged not only our students and employees, but across the line--
- Steven Glazer
Person
I'm just asking whether it would apply to President Castro. As President, would he have had retreat rights? Remember, he didn't commit any crime. He didn't violate Title IX. It was a review of an employee and how he handled that, right? So would he lose his retreat rights under this bill?
- Vicky McLeod
Person
In my opinion, as an employee for over 35 years, I would say yes.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Okay.
- Josh Newman
Person
But to be clear, you're arguing he should, Ms. McLeod. The question is, does the policy explicitly provide be explicit in providing--and the difference is the sin of omission versus the sin of commission, right, Senator Glazer? So it is a good question as it relates to the actual articulation of the policy.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Yeah. I'm trying to understand how this policy works in practice. I want to ask another question on another example because I'm trying to understand how this policy works. We have an official state president--
- Bill Dodd
Person
So the answer to your question is, I don't think so now, based on what my staff person--that would apply there. But there could be an amendment in this bill. We take that suggestion or criticism of the bill seriously, and we'll look at that.
- Steven Glazer
Person
Great, and let me ask you one more. I appreciate that. The President of Sonoma State, there was an issue in regard to not her behavior, but the behavior of her spouse. Under your bill, as proposed today, would that president be able to have retreat rights to the CSU?
- Bill Dodd
Person
I don't think so. I mean, excuse me; I don't think it would have interfered with her retreat rights because of her conduct, but that's something that I take seriously as a serious concern about the bill that I will look at moving forward.
- Steven Glazer
Person
No problem. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for indulging me.
- Bill Dodd
Person
Thank you, Senator.
- Steven Glazer
Person
I do think these pragmatic questions are relevant. I appreciate the engagement from the author. For that reason, I'm going to stay off today, but I look forward to working with you to see if we can refine it so it has merit going forward.
- Josh Newman
Person
I will say, I do appreciate the line of questioning from the Senator, but I also will say, for my part, I think there is just cause here, and I think you've made a good case. Beyond that, I think to the witnesses, to Mr. Wilson's point, it is a good thing to codify these practices for future reference, for future clarity. And so with that, I don't see any other comments from the Committee. Senator Dodd, would you like to close?
- Bill Dodd
Person
Respectfully ask for your aye vote, and I commit to the Committee that we will work on these issues that Senator Glazer has brought forth.
- Josh Newman
Person
There we go. Do we have a motion from a Member? Senator Cortese moves the bill. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File Item 12, SB 808: Dodd. Motion is 'do pass as amended, but first amend and re-refer to the Committee on Judiciary.' [Roll Call].
- Josh Newman
Person
Very good. That measure has five votes. We will leave it open.
- Bill Dodd
Person
Thank you, Members.
- Josh Newman
Person
And thank you, Senator Dodd. Senator Jones, thank you for your patience and welcome. And you are here to present SB 811.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Thank you, sir.
- Josh Newman
Person
Teacher credentialing. Go ahead.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Good afternoon, everybody. I was hoping to be able to say good morning, but I guess it's good afternoon.
- Josh Newman
Person
Too late. Don't rub it in.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
All right. Yeah, okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Members. California is facing a massive teacher shortage. Two-thirds of California school districts have reported challenges filling vacant teaching positions. As of October 2022, 18 percent of public schools had one teaching vacancy and 27% had multiple teaching vacancies. The state has an immediate need to expedite the teacher credentialing process while maintaining the integrity of the workforce.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
I believe an easy part of the solution is for qualified teachers who were educated and credentialed in other states to be able to move swiftly into a teaching role here in California. Currently, the process for teachers moving to California from out of state takes over 10 weeks to complete from the time of the application is turned in. That's almost an entire semester. This can become particularly onerous for military spouses, who are frequently called upon to relocate on short notice and without planning.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
While California has worked to improve educator recruitment and retention rates, backlogs and delays in the credentialing process have continued to create undue burdens for teachers looking to move here. SB 811 gives California another option to simplify teachers moving into the state by joining the Interstate Teacher Mobility Compact. The compact will allow teachers moving from one member state to another to be granted the closest equivalent license to their current credential.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Joining the compact will make California a founding member, give us a leading voice on the commission, and encourage other states to follow our lead in creating a more streamlined and equitable credential process for all teachers seeking to move throughout the United States. With me today, I have Ned McKinley from the Marine Corps. And to provide technical support, I have Adam Diersing from the Council of State Governments.
- Josh Newman
Person
Mr. McKinley, welcome. Please proceed.
- Ned McKinley
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Members of the Committee. Ned McKinley. I am with Marine Corps Installations West in support of SB 811. Also here to note the support of all the military services in California. So the challenge we're really trying to get at here, it's spouse employment year after year surveys of military families. The number one stressor that they note is unemployment of the military spouse. Unemployment is 20, 22% year after year. So it's significantly higher than the civilian population.
- Ned McKinley
Person
So one of the things we've been trying to do for several years is to ease the portability professional licenses. It's not the only reason for unemployment, but it's a significant reason. In the case of teachers, that's the number one profession for military spouses. So we're looking at about 4,000 teachers out of 40,000 military spouses in California, 1,500 of them coming and going every year. So passing SB 811 would have a really pronounced significant positive impact on their lives. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And I know your other witnesses here for technical advice. Is anybody here in the Committee chamber room that wants to testify in support of the measure? Seeing none. Anybody in opposition? Seeing none? Anybody on the phones? Miss Moderator, would you please queue participants to testify in support or in opposition?
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. If you are in support or opposition, please press one followed by zero at this time. One followed by zero. And one moment, Mr. Chair, we have a couple queuing up with an operator. One moment.
- Josh Newman
Person
Very good.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Anybody else, go and hit 1-0 at this time if you are in support or opposition to this bill. Line 193, you are open.
- Jesse Najera
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Jesse Najera. I'm Superintendent of Silver Valley Unified School District that employs many military spouses, in strong support of 811.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And next will be second, line 177, you are open.
- Karen Gray
Person
Hi there. My name is Karen Gray, and I am a 23-year school board member with Silver Valley Unified in San Bernardino County. And I urge you to support this bill. This isn't going to be the answer to our teacher shortage but I think what it does help California be a leader in a way that helps us maximize nationwide pool of our teachers and that quality asset that we can get them into our classrooms. In Silver Valley, we do serve a military population, but it's important to understand that this bill isn't exclusive to military spouses.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Thank you for your testimony. Next, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. Next, we're going to go to line nine. You are open.
- Sandy Person
Person
Hi, my name is Sandy Person. On behalf of the Travis Community Consortium, we strongly support SB 811. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Excuse me, line 235, please go ahead.
- Mark Balmert
Person
Good afternoon. This is Mark Balmert. I'm President and CEO of the San Diego Military Advisory Council, very strongly in support of this legislation. It will help our military spouses enormously as they move in and out of California. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And next.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And line 214, you are open.
- Kelli Douglas
Person
Good afternoon. My name is Kelli May Douglas with the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness in strong support of this measure. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Are there any other callers, Moderator?
- Committee Moderator
Person
That is it at this time.
- Josh Newman
Person
All right, thank you. Let's bring it back to the Committee room. Any Members like to ask a question or comment on the measure? Senator Cortese?
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Yeah. I have to admit, in going over the bill, I'm just making this on the record. It's not necessarily directed to the author. I'm not entirely clear as to what unintended consequences could happen, but I think it's worthy of continuing to debate on this and going forward. We're very early in the process here, and I will direct this part to the other.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
I just think, Senator Jones, you're trying to do a good thing in terms of the availability of folks who can take advantage of this, I guess, is the way to put it. But again, I don't know the nuances of what happens. It's almost economics or an economic analysis. I think at some point that people will sort of raise as a question.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
What happens at the end of the day or any given day when the dust settles in terms of displacement, nondisplacement, where people end up and so forth. So with that, I will be supporting the item today to move it forward and allow that debate to continue.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Was that a motion?
- Josh Newman
Person
That was not a motion quite yet. I'm sure we'll get there soon. Hopefully soon. Any other Committee Members? Senator Smallwood-Cuevas?
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you for presenting this bill today. Being in the budget Sub One Committee and hearing from so many student teachers, teachers who are in the process of getting credentialed, teachers, students who are trying to deal with their student debt so that they can get into the classroom and land that teaching job.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
It's always a balance between the shortage of teachers, but also how California has some of the best teachers in the world because of our credentialing process and because of the investments that we're making in preparing our teachers. And so I agree with my colleague, Senator Cortese, in terms of supporting this through a process, but really looking at how we are creating a level playing field and really prioritizing California teachers in this process.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
We don't want to kill the patient with the cure in this situation, and we want a strong, robust teaching profession in the State of California. We're investing in that. We don't want it undermined by the ability of teachers to come into California with not having the same standards that we expect and also the expertise of teaching in a state like California, given our diversity, given our investment in making sure that every student has access to quality education.
- Lola Smallwood-Cuevas
Legislator
So I just want to say that I'm an aye vote today, but I think that there is a lot of work that we have to see done to ensure that this is fair to California teachers.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
And I agree with that. Thank you. Was that a motion?
- Josh Newman
Person
No, not yet. Not yet. Nor is it lunchtime. So two quick questions. Senator Jones. So one question actually, for Mr. McKinley. So you and I have actually spoken at length about this, and I do appreciate your advocacy and certainly the context of military families and leadership and trying to solve this problem. In January 2023, there was a federal bill passed, the Military Spouse Licensing Relief Act, with bipartisan support, signing a law. Does that or does that not solve the problem for the military services? There's a broader issue here, but from your perspective, does that solve the problem you set out to address?
- Ned McKinley
Person
Short answer, we don't know. I think there's a fair amount of uncertainty with what will happen and how the federal law will be implemented. It's like just a few sentences long and what that could look like when it gets implemented. I think it could be all over the map. I think the compact very clearly has a lot more substance to it and a lot more guardrails to it. But, yeah. Short answer, we don't know.
- Josh Newman
Person
Okay. I appreciate that. I know the crux of my next question, which is to the extent that the compact does have more substance to it, it actually binds California to a common set of rules across all participating states. We have some other requirements in California that I don't think anybody--most of us wouldn't argue with--the English learner authorization, subject matter competence, certification.
- Josh Newman
Person
And so the question I have for the author know, if our commitment to our membership in the ITMC binds us to those rules and requires that an unencumbered license be given upfront, what would that do to those follow on requirements, and how would you address that?
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Mr. Chair, if you wouldn't mind, I'm misunderstood. My second witness actually does have some technical testimony that might speak to that.
- Josh Newman
Person
That's fine. That's why your second witness is here.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Yeah. If they come and maybe address that issue and some of the other things that he wanted to mention. I apologize, Mr. Chair.
- Adam Diersing
Person
Thank you, Chair Newman and Members of the Committee, I can address that question first. So we had extensive conversations with CTC over the previous months, and we believe that the existing system that California uses to accept out of state teachers and licensed out of state teachers with regard to something like the English language learners requirement can largely stay in place, but move some of the barriers that individual teachers face in producing transcripts and additional documentation off of those individual teachers and onto something like the Compact Commission.
- Josh Newman
Person
Appreciate that. And so, any other comments from Members? I'm going to vote yes. This is obviously fairly nuanced and complicated. It's referred from here to judiciary. That's where those matters, I think, are better taken up. So with that, would you like to close?
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Thank you, sir. This bill will help the California education system fill the many vacant positions and help the educators who wish to come teach here quickly and smoothly receive their appropriate credential. We are still working out some of the specifics, as you mentioned and other Members of the Committee have mentioned, and we're committed to continue working with you, your staff, the judiciary staff, as the bill moves through the Senate and even into the Assembly of course. And would ask and appreciate your aye vote this morning.
- Josh Newman
Person
And do we have a motion? Senator Ochoa Bogh. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 13, SB 811, Jones. Motion is do pass, but first be re-referred to the Committee on Judiciary. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
Very good. Next up.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
- Brian Jones
Legislator
Thank you, Members.
- Josh Newman
Person
Yeah. Thank you, Senator Jones. We're going to try. This hearing was scheduled at 1:00; we're clearly not going to do that. So we have this room for another 15 minutes, at which time we would recess. So let us go to Senator Wilk, and let's do SB 868. I know some of your witnesses came all the way from the district, and you've been so patient. Not sure if you've learned anything, but we're grateful for your patience here.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Well, my script says good morning, but it's good afternoon.
- Josh Newman
Person
Again, please don't rub it in. So please proceed.
- Scott Wilk
Person
And I also want to thank Senator Cortese for letting us hop because I know we're supposed to go in file order. Also have two bills today, and we're going to flip them in terms of presentation because we do have people from the district to testify who've been in the front row the entire time. So I'm going to--happy to--
- Josh Newman
Person
Someday you'll be able to tell your grandkids you were here for all these great bills.
- Scott Wilk
Person
That's right. So I'm going to talk in general terms because these are two bills, and both these bills are in the aftermath of a shooting that happened in my district back in November 14th, 2019. It was actually the high school that both my kids went to. And I will tell you, I would never ever mention a shooting happening in my city, let alone at that high school. Everybody I talked to said that would be the last high school that it would ever happen. So it can happen anywhere, which has really opened my eyes. So we have two bills. First bill we're going to talk about today is SB 686.
- Josh Newman
Person
868.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Thank you. I guess I'm dyslexic, too. I'm happy I voted for that bill. So anyway, this bill is to improve student safety by placing trauma tourniquet kits where they needed to be most in emergency situation in the classroom.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Again, I mentioned on November 14th of 2019, a high school student opened fire on students at Saugus High, and the tragic event resulted in two students losing their lives and five more being wounded. That shooting actually happened a little after 7:00 a.m. It was right in front of the choir room. My daughter was in three choirs when she was in high school, and she was in that room every day at 7:00 a.m her entire career. And so just really drove that home.
- Scott Wilk
Person
The devastating tragedy could have been much worse if it weren't for the fact that there was a trauma kit that was already available in the classroom. A choir teacher utilized the kit on an injured student and saved that young person's life who happened to be a daughter of a good friend of mine and Vanessa's. The unfortunate reality is that schools and classrooms are ill-prepared for threats against their kids. Having trauma kits on hand in the classroom is essential in today's world.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Wounds that are not fatal can quickly turn deadly without controlling bleeding, and access to these materials can be the difference between life and death. Trauma kits in the classroom that are easily accessible will allow for quick action to life-saving materials, which will ultimately prevent a devastating loss.
- Scott Wilk
Person
So with me today, finally to present testimony, is Bud and Cambria Lawrence, two of the founders of Keep the Pressure, who was the organization responsible for placing the trauma kits that were used at Saugus High School.
- Josh Newman
Person
Mr. Lawrence, welcome. Please proceed. And again, we do appreciate your patience.
- Cambria Lawrence
Person
Thank you so much to the Chair and all of the Members of this Committee for having us today, and thank you so much to Senator Wilk for authoring this extremely important bill. My name is Cambria Lawrence, and I'm a freshman at UCLA, and when I was finishing middle school, I was afraid to go to high school because of school shootings. I begged my parents to homeschool me.
- Cambria Lawrence
Person
And every day, I would think of escape routes from my classroom and look around and see what objects I would grab if a shooter were to break down that door. And it was a very difficult time for me, and my sister and I came with the epiphany that children shouldn't have to be afraid to get an education. Children shouldn't be afraid saying goodbye to their parents that morning when they leave for school, thinking it may be the last time that they see them.
- Cambria Lawrence
Person
And so as a result, my sister and I came up with Keep the Pressure, and we are a nonprofit organization which provides bleed kits like these filled with life-saving medical tools such as tourniquets, which vary in size for children or adults or older teens. Quick clot gauze, which are gauze that help clotting happen faster, compressive dressings, emergency blankets, trauma shears, and gloves. And it really is a simple solution.
- Cambria Lawrence
Person
And anybody can learn how to use the tools: teachers, students, any layperson, even without any medical training, and just placing one of these kits in every single classroom can help save a life, just as we saw with the placement of these kits all throughout our Hart district in every single classroom, including the choir room where they were used to save a life during the Saugus shooting.
- Bud Lawrence
Person
And my name is Bud Lawrence. I'm actually the father of Maci and Cambria, who started the nonprofit. I'm also an emergency department physician at Henry Mayo Newhall Hospital in Senator Wilk's district, and I was there on that day of the Saugus shooting. I'm actually the medical director of the Emergency Department at Henry Mayo.
- Bud Lawrence
Person
So Henry Mayo is a trauma center, and we are there to help take care of patients in these life-threatening events. I can't explain to you guys how important it is that these kits are in every classroom. So I think you guys have probably already heard the mantra that we teach our students which is 'run, hide, fight in the event of a school shooting.' So just as we saw in the Saugus incident when people get shot, they scurry into a classroom where the door is locked.
- Bud Lawrence
Person
And I think you should all know that the law enforcement agencies and emergency medical service personnel will not--particularly the ambulance paramedics--will not come into the shooting site until the shooter is neutralized. And that can sometimes be up to an hour. So what you have is you have kids in a classroom slowly bleeding to death and dying needlessly. So placing these kits or a kit similar to this in every classroom, K-12 in this state, is critical. You heard Dr. Wilk say--Dr. Wilk--Senator Wilk.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Oh, I like it. Got promoted.
- Bud Lawrence
Person
You got a promotion. You heard him say at Saugus, 'not at this school. Not ever would this ever, ever happen.' Well, it happened. And it happened in Tennessee this past week. It is a plague that our students are dealing with. It's critical. Our students are our most precious commodity in this state, and our teachers are superheroes, but they're not impervious to bullets and other trauma and bleeding. So placing these kits in these classrooms, you will absolutely be saving lives.
- Cambria Lawrence
Person
Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And thank you, Dr. Lawrence. Thank you, Cambria. Anybody else in the Committee hearing room who'd like to testify on behalf of the bill?
- Connie Delgado
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Members. Connie Delgado, on behalf of the 5,000 members of the California Emergency Nurses Association, in support. Thank you.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Thank you, Connie.
- Timothy Madden
Person
Thank you, Chair and Members. Tim Madden, representing the California Chapter of the American College of Emergency Physicians, in strong support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Anybody in opposition? Seeing none, let's go to the phone line. Mr. Moderator, if you could queue anybody who's on the phone to testify with respect to this measure.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Thank you. If you are in support or opposition, please press one followed by zero at this time. One followed by zero. And one moment, Mr. Chair. We do have one queuing up.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Line 240, you are open.
- Chris Myers
Person
Chris Myers with the California School Employees Association, and we are opposed unless amended on SB 868. We support providing students with life-saving care, but the bill does not provide clear labor protections or training. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Myers. Anybody--
- Committee Moderator
Person
Nobody else at this time, Mr. Chair.
- Josh Newman
Person
Committee Members, any comments or questions for the Committee? Seeing none, let me say real quick, I commend the Lawrences. It's interesting that the kits you've created aren't that different than what I carried when I was in the United States Army. I'm sure that's not a coincidence. And I really do take seriously the concerns expressed by Cambria about the strain that the fear of gun violence places on kids. I actually encountered that directly.
- Josh Newman
Person
I was part of a Career Day recently, ostensibly to talk about public service, and it seemed quite often in each class that was the biggest concern. And that's pretty eye-opening. So again, I commend you for doing your part in creating some level of assurance that if and when something terrible like this happens, that people are prepared and people will survive. Having said that, looking for a motion. Do I have a motion? So moved by Senator Ochoa Bogh. If you'd like to close, please.
- Scott Wilk
Person
I would like to close. And Dr. Lawrence made a great point that I forgot. So the shooter ended up taking his own life immediately, but no one knew that. And we were all on lockdown for a good hour. I know me that morning, I'd been hiking. I come back a little bit--again, a little bit after seven. The TV sets on. I go, 'that looks like my neighborhood' because it was a news helicopter over it, and we were all in lockdown for about an hour.
- Scott Wilk
Person
So if that kit wasn't there, that student very well could have bled out. So he made a powerful argument that I just wanted to reinforce. And with that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
I appreciate that. And we have a motion from Senator Ochoa Bogh. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File Item 16: SB 868: Wilk. Motion is 'do pass, but first be re-referred to the Committee on Rules.' [Roll Call].
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And to the Lawrences, first, thank you, but secondly, remind Senator Wilk he owes you lunch. And we are going to have to recess for ten minutes while they reset. And I'm sorry, they have to reset the TV system for another hearing.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Okay. So where are we going to reconvene? Oh, back here? Okay.
- Josh Newman
Person
We just have to take a temporary pause. So thank you very--we have two more bills to consider. We'll move through those.
- Scott Wilk
Person
I get to still stay ahead of Senator Cortese or is he going to come--
- Josh Newman
Person
It's up to Senator Cortese.
- Scott Wilk
Person
Doesn't matter. I'm here to the end.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
I'm the 2:00 at the train station, so maybe--
- Scott Wilk
Person
Yeah. When we come back, when we reconvene, you can go first.
- Josh Newman
Person
All right. Again, thanks, everybody.
- Josh Newman
Person
Let me call the Committee back into order. Recess is complete and now we are back and we are going to hear from Senator Cortese. SB 333.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Thank you Mr. Chair and Senators. Today I am here to present SB 333, the California SOAR Guaranteed Income program. Approximately 270,000 students within California's K12 system are experiencing homelessness right now, a number that has increased by over 48% over the past decade. About 15,000 of these students are in the twelveth grade right now.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
School districts support these students by utilizing funds from the Mckinney-Vento Act, which also defines homelessness of students, a key legislative support for students and those students who are experiencing homelessness in the schools. However, the law only applies to currently enrolled students, meaning a student experiencing homelessness will only receive support up until they graduate from high school. The lack of support available to youth experiencing homelessness post graduation significantly hinders their ability to pursue either educational or career ambitions.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
While federal and state law provide extensive financial aid to those youth experiencing homelessness who intend to enroll in college, for example, that aid does not become available until the student begins attending college in the fall, which stands to reason. As a result, many of these youth become subject to a phenomenon known as summer melt, a scenario in which high school graduates are accepted into college or jobs or apprenticeship programs later in the summer months or in early fall.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
They intend to enroll, but they never show up because of their unhoused condition and lack of support.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
This problem is common among low income students who lack the financial resources to make the transition from high school to college or career or apprenticeships in the fall, these students can often become sticker shock when they learn about prompt fees associated with attending college that must be paid, those fees that must be paid before their financial aid kicks in, such as their summer orientation fees, housing deposits, or parking pass. And that's just dealing with this bill's impact on the college enrollment population alone.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
In recognition of the need to expend support to our most vulnerable students during the bridge between high school graduation and postsecondary education or employment, this Bill establishes a statewide guaranteed income program that will provide direct cash assistance on a monthly basis to these youth during that period.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
The Bill defines an eligible participant as an individual who is enrolled in the twelveth grade, meets the definition of homelessness according to the Mckinney-Vento act, and the program will serve approximately 15,000 youth experiencing homelessness statewide starting April 1 2025 through August 1 2025 just those months specified. The no strings attached guaranteed income model will empower these youth to use the funds as they see fit, whether that be entering into the workforce or pursuing higher education.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Other guaranteed income programs, including one that I piloted in Santa Clara County to serve transition age foster youth, have proven to be successful. Of course, the state now has experience with foster youth and with guaranteed income for pregnant women. We know about the Stockton example and many, many other municipal examples now that have demonstrated that guaranteed income reduces income volatility significantly, helps people find full time employment, improves physical and mental health, and creates new opportunities for people.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
This Bill will equip youth experiencing homelessness already with the financial resources to embark on a path towards stability and success, and will help us to quit graduating young 12th graders into adult homelessness. Here to testify in support of the Bill, we have Najariya Bell, who's a student at Chaffey Community College in Sarah Bouabibsa. She's the west advocacy manager at Youth Invincibles. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
- Josh Newman
Person
Welcome. Please proceed.
- Najariya Bell
Person
Hello, Chair and Committee. I hope you find yourself doing well today. My name is Najariya Bell and first and foremost, I would like to thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak on this matter. Help me with providing guaranteed income for youth that are experiencing homelessness.
- Najariya Bell
Person
This matter is important to me because as a current foster youth that is now at Chaffey Community College studying criminal justice and achieving these goals that I once had as a kid, it was possible due to funding that I had received. I currently live in transitional housing with Walden Family Services. I've currently been living here for a little more over than a year.
- Najariya Bell
Person
If it wasn't for funding because I'm a foster youth, I would be part of the youth that are struggling to find a roof over the head. Additionally, as I mentioned earlier, I'm in college pursuing my dream of being a detective with funding I received because I am a foster youth, I am able to buy food, clothes, and even textbooks. As a little girl, I will sit down and watch Criminal Minds and imagine myself in the field.
- Najariya Bell
Person
With the help of Eops, I'm able to accomplish these dreams that I had as a little girl. SB 33 gives guaranteed income for other young people going through the same difficulties I went through. Giving them financial support will allow them to accomplish the dreams they had as little kids, too. To conclude, I stand in front of you today as a young adult that was provided funding starting at the age of 17 and living the life I did not think was possible for me.
- Najariya Bell
Person
These funds have helped me live a life that not a lot of youth in my situation get to have. I have been able to feel safe with a roof over my head, go to college and live a better life. Overall, I am grateful for all opportunities that have been given to me. Now I want to be able to be a part of the team that helps other youth get to live their dreams and goals. Thank you once again for this opportunity.
- Najariya Bell
Person
Have a great rest of your day.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you and well done. Next witness, please.
- Sarah Bouabibsa
Person
Good afternoon.
- Sarah Bouabibsa
Person
Thank you, chair Newman and Members of the Committee. My name is Sarah Bouabibsa, and I'm with Young Invincibles, proud co sponsor of SB 333. I'd first like to thank Senator Cortese for his commitment to ensuring that the most vulnerable young adults can lead dignified lives. Every year, roughly 15,000 California high school seniors graduate into adult homelessness.
- Sarah Bouabibsa
Person
Although graduation is a joyous occasion, especially for a cohort of young adults that have beat the odds, their graduation is a day filled with uncertainty about the future and what it holds for them. They have done everything we ask of high school seniors, attend school, imagine their dream career and focus on college to make that dream a reality.
- Sarah Bouabibsa
Person
When we let these young adults lose all of the support they receive through the K through 12 education system and offer no means to reaching their goals, we are reinforcing the cycle of poverty. With no outlet for thousands of bright youth, each with their own ideal future. SB 333 would provide the one thing that many of these students need to break the cycle of poverty, a guaranteed income.
- Sarah Bouabibsa
Person
The research shows that guaranteed income is a powerful tool that affords recipients the autonomy to address their own needs, no strings attached. The Stockton Economic Empowerment demonstration, guaranteed income project, or seed, and tax credits like the child tax credit, highlight the importance of unconditional cash. Participants of the Seed project spent their cash assistance on food, household expenses, and for some, they even took time off from their second job to find higher paying employment.
- Sarah Bouabibsa
Person
In the case of the child tax credit, by the last month that it was provided, 3.7 million children had been lifted above the poverty line. Regular cash payments for the 15,000 graduating seniors can help with rent, food and even relocation costs for college. Guaranteed income is simple and transformative. It helps people get ahead and get one step closer to financial stability. We must provide California's homeless youth with the opportunity to become economically stable. They, too, deserve shelter, food and a chance to work toward their aspirations.
- Sarah Bouabibsa
Person
For all these reasons, I urge your aye vote and thank you for your time.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you and thank you for your testimony. Is there anybody else here in the Committee hearing room would like testify in support of SB 333.
- Kristina Bas Hamilton
Person
Thank you, chair Newman and Members of the Committee. My name is Kristina Bas Hamilton. I'm here with the Economic Security Project Action, which is also a proud co sponsor of this Bill two years running. And we are going to make it happen.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Next, please.
- Nicole Wordelman
Person
Nicole Wordelman. On behalf of the Children's Partnership in support. And I've been asked to also express the support of the Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you.
- Yereli Magayon
Person
Hello. Yoreli Magajon here today on behalf of Silicon Valley Community foundation. Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Is there anybody here in the hearing would like testify in opposition to the Bill? Seeing none. Ms. Moderator, if you could please query the teleconference line for anybody who wish to testify either in support of or in opposition to the Bill.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. If you are in support or opposition of this Bill, please press one, followed by zero, line 245, please go ahead.
- Gregory Cramer
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Members. Gregory Kramer, on behalf of Disability Rights California in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you, Mr. Kramer. Next, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
234. You are open.
- Sydney Choisla
Person
Sydney Choisla on the behalf of California Coalition for Youth in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. Any others?
- Committee Secretary
Person
We do have one more in queue. 1 second, please. And 248, please. Go ahead.
- Sara Razavi
Person
Thank you. Sorry. This is Sara Razavi from Working Solutions CDFI, serving Northern California in support.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you very much.
- Josh Newman
Person
Nobody else in queue.
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And thank you, Mr. Moderator, for all your work today. Let's bring it back to the Committee hearing room. Any Members wish to ask questions or voice concerns about the Bill? Seeing none. Glad to support it. Senator Cortese, would you like to close?
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Thank you very much. I would like to thank the witnesses for their concise testimony. And there was some travel involved in getting here, so I just wanted to acknowledge them, the chair and the Committee. Thank you very much for hearing the Bill today and for your efforts analyzing the Bill prior to today. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
And do we have a motion? A motion from Senator Ochoa Bogh. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Final item 14. SB 333 Cortese. Motion is do pass. Must first be rereferred to the Committee on Human Services. Newman. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
If you could call Senator Glazer one more time.
- Josh Newman
Person
SB 333 Cortese. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
Very good. Thank you. So we are going to carry over SB 643, with the permission of Senator Wilk, to the next hearing. And so if there are any Committee Members who are not in the chamber, I'd invite you to come back as quickly as possible. We're going to open the roll and close out any open votes for those Members who are here. Madam Secretary, if you please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
On the Consent Calendar, [Roll Call]. File item 1, SB 11, Menjivar, do pass as amended but first be amended and rerefer to the Committee on Health. Current vote is 6-0 with the Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That's seven to zero. That bill's out.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 2, SB 541, Menjivar. Motion is do pass as amended, but first amend, and rerefer to the Committee on Health. Current vote is four to one, with the Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
We can leave it open or close? We're going to leave that one open. Next bill, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 3, SB 635, Menjivar. Motion is do pass, but first be rerefer to the Committee on Human Services. Current vote is five to zero, with the Chair of voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill has six votes. We'll leave it open. Next bill, please.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 4, SB 307 by Ashby. Motion is do pass but first be rereferred to the Committee on Human Services. Current vote is 5-0 with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
Bill has six votes. We'll leave it open.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 5, SB 323, Portantino. Motion is do pass, but first be rereferred to the Committee on Appropriations. Current vote is five to zero, with the Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill has seven votes, and it is out.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item six, SB 640, Portantino. Motion is do pass but first be rereferred to the Committee on Labor, Public Employment, and Retirement. Current vote is one aye to two noes. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
We'll leave that vote open for now.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. File item 8, SB 342, Seyarto. Motion is do pass but first be rereferred to the Committee on Appropriations. Current vote is two ayes and one no, with the Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
I voted no on that. I'm sorry. You don't have it marked.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, you're right.
- Josh Newman
Person
I appreciate that.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Thank you.
- Josh Newman
Person
So why don't you call the roll again on that, please?
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. On SB 342, once again, the current vote is two ayes and one no, with the Chair voting no and the Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
We're going to leave that vote open. McGuire is still out. We're leaving that open. You don't have to worry about it, but we're going to leave it open for Senator McGuire.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item nine, SB 348, Skinner. Motion is do pass, but first be rereferred to the Committee on Human Services. Current vote is four ayes and no noes, with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]. File item 12, SB 808, Dodd. Motion is do pass as amended but first amend and rerefer to the Committee on Judiciary. The current vote is five ayes and no noes, with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
We'll go through the roll again.
- Committee Secretary
Person
All right.
- Josh Newman
Person
We'll leave that open as six votes at the moment.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. File item 13. Excuse me.
- Josh Newman
Person
Understood. There's five votes. You didn't vote.
- Josh Newman
Person
Going to SB 811.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 13, SB 811, Jones. Motion is do pass but first be rereferred to the Committee on Judiciary. Current vote is six ayes and no noes, with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill is out with seven votes.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 14, SB 333. Cortese. Motion is do pass, but first be rereferred to the Committee on Human Services. Current vote is six ayes, no noes with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill is out with seven votes.
- Committee Secretary
Person
File item 16, SB 868, Wilk. Motion is do pass, but first be rereferred to the Committee on Rules. Current vote is 5-0, with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
Thank you. And again, we're going to carry over SB 643 to the next hearing. So thank you, Members. Let's open the roll one more time to close out the remaining votes for Senator McGuire.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. File item 2, SB 541, Menjivar. Current vote is four to one, with the Chair voting aye and the Vice Chair voting no. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That's out five to two. That bill is out.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. SB 635, Menjivar. Current vote is five to zero, with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill is out 7-0.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. SB 307, Ashby. Current vote is five to zero, with the Chair and Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That vote is 7-0. That bill is out.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. SB 640, Portantino. Current vote is three ayes, two noes, with the Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill is out, 4-2.
- Committee Secretary
Person
SB 342, Seyarto. Current vote is three ayes, one no, with the Chair voting no and the Vice Chair voting aye. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
And that bill fails, three votes to one. And do I have a motion for reconsideration? I'm happy to grant reconsideration, certainly.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Okay. SB 348, Skinner. Current vote is five ayes, no noes. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill is out 7-0.
- Committee Secretary
Person
SB 808, Dodd. Current vote is five ayes, no noes. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
That bill is out six to zero, and that's it. So sorry that we have overstayed our welcome, but we will be departing these premises. So thank you everybody. Thank you to Committee staff for what turned into a long but productive hearing. Oh, sorry, Senator McGuire. The Consent Calendar.
- Committee Secretary
Person
On the Consent Calendar. [Roll Call]
- Josh Newman
Person
And the Consent Calendar is out 7-0. Again, thank you. Apologies for the slow pace here. This Committee is adjourned.
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