Assembly Budget Subcommittee No. 1 on Health and Human Services
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Good afternoon. This is the Assembly Budget Subcommittee Number One on Health and Human Services. Today's hearing will be focused on behavioral health. Given the length of today's agenda, I would like to request that all of our speakers be as brief as possible. While we will be wanting to hear what you have to say, we also want to hear from the public, who have to wait until the end of the hearing.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
We will have panel presentations on the first 29 issues in today's agenda, while the remaining 19 are non-presentation items. Members are welcome to ask questions on all issues of the agenda, including on nonpresentation items, and we welcome public comment on them at the end of the hearing, should there be any. I want to remind everyone that public comment on all issues of the agenda will be taken at the end of the hearing.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
After the last issue has been presented, we will first take public comment from those who are here in the room, and then we will be going to our phone lines. With that, let us begin with issue one. Our first issue is an overview of the Mental Health Services Oversight and Accountability Commission and its proposed budget. We will have Dr. Toby Ewing, the Commission's Executive Director, to present this issue. Welcome and please begin.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair and Members appreciate the chance to join you today. We did provide some materials in the form of a handout. I will reference that in my brief comments. Do my best to be brief. In the write-up, the staff identified a couple of questions here. What are the the highlight the Commission's most significant work and achievements?
- Toby Ewing
Person
And it asked this question around kind of the Commission's portfolio and whether or not it exceeds the original intent of the MHSA statute as it was drafted. In terms of our most significant and what we tried to do in this handout was to give you that portfolio.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Maybe move the mic a little bit closer.
- Toby Ewing
Person
You bet. Apologies. So in the handout we provided, we provide 20 or so key initiatives, and we try to give you statements about what each of those initiatives are covering, the accomplishments that we have achieved to date, and what the opportunity represents. And I want to highlight a couple of the graphics in there. The first is this lifespan graphic, and what we're really trying to do with this lifespan graphic is to put that portfolio in the context of the public that we serve.
- Toby Ewing
Person
It's really an effort to identify the work that we're doing, but more importantly, the work that isn't being done in terms of the Commission's own portfolio. And when we first did this, we recognized that we had some significant deficits in early child education and in older adults. And subsequent to that, we've been working to develop a partnership with the Department of Aging to really strengthen our work on older adults.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And we've been able to make some investments in that area and we're working to make some similar investments in early childhood education. In terms of, I'm going to get to the graphic at the end of this document.
- Toby Ewing
Person
I won't go through all the initiatives in reference to your comment about being brief, but in terms of our most significant work and achievements, I want to highlight that the Commission was really formed to elevate mental health in terms of public policy and practice, going back to the origins of the Mental Health Services Act, the early work 20 plus years ago done by the state's Little Hoover Commission, really recognized that it was important to have an entity whose job it was to really drive transformational change, to ask tough questions and to provide advice and guidance to the Legislature and the Governor.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And that is one of our most significant accomplishments to date. We have not done this alone. It has been done in partnership with the Department of Healthcare Services, Community Organizations, Community Partners, CBHDA counties, others.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We really see ourselves as shaping and informing opportunities, serving as a catalyst, and some of the work that's mentioned here, some of the work that you're well aware of in school mental health, our recent work in workplace mental health, our work around digital strategies and delivering care, as exemplified by the work that the Department of Healthcare Services has done most recently with CalHope, are areas where the Commission has elevated an opportunity that otherwise was not being pursued at a point in time.
- Toby Ewing
Person
On our programmatic work, as mentioned, is mentioned in the agenda, suicide prevention, the early psychosis work, our alcove youth drop in, fortifying fsps, enhancing understanding of the mental health system and enhancing transparency around funding, services and outcomes. These are all among what I would call the most significant accomplishments and achievements of Commission. We've been elevating innovation. We have been really working to identify leadership opportunities at the community level. We elevate the voice of community Members of youth, in particular around youth and school mental health.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so I would say the Commission stands apart because we do not have the significant portfolio that other departments much larger than we have. That allows us to actually be dynamic, that allows us to identify opportunities that are not being pursued, which is part of what this analysis is. Last, I would draw your attention to the second, to the last page in this document that we have provided to you, focusing on upstream efforts.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And what we've really tried to do here is we start with this understanding that We, the State of California cannot afford to pay its way out of the challenges we have in mental health care today, we must invest in upstream opportunities around prevention and early intervention that is built into the Mental Health Services Act. Prevention as a mandate, one of the only areas where it actually is a mandate.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And the act really defines prevention in very broad ways, looking at the factors that actually contribute to mental health needs, such as unstable housing, unemployment, lack of hope. Right. It's creating work is about hope and opportunity. And so the Commission's work, the Mental Health Services Act work, is really about elevating upstream opportunities to support people before needs develop and to design systems that are responsive and then intervene early to prevent the escalation of needs over time.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so in this graphic, we've tried to represent the school mental health work, which is really about a broad population-based strategy to engage young people. We have not put our workplace mental health effort on this document yet because it's just emerging, but comparable to school-based mental health. Workplace mental health is about engaging adults. Our risks, our resiliency, the opportunities that we have don't come from work alone, but can be influenced and impacted by work.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And for those of us who receive health coverage through our employers, work is a place where we receive access to high quality, effective mental health care, or not, depending on the quality of that coverage and the types of services that are available.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But our school mental health work, our alcove youth drop in work, is really about creating trust and creating very accessible, easy pathways to care for young people who often struggle because of issues of trust or the responsiveness of the system to their needs, into our early psychosis work, which you'll hear a little bit more about later today, which is that early psychosis work is so important in terms of engaging early in the evolution of someone's disorder that is likely to lead to the most devastating impacts that we see in our communities, homelessness, incarceration, hospitalization, and death.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so our early psychosis work is really that most important, early intervention and then our full service partnership work and this array of upstream strategies are really designed to address some of the most pressing, some of the most expensive, some of the most devastating impacts on individual families and communities, namely in the three maroon circles at the bottom, homelessness, incarceration and hospitalization.
- Toby Ewing
Person
So I think, I mention this because it's this framework that we are very proud of and we think is very significant in terms of the opportunity and the accomplishment of the commissions. I don't want to say that that's something we've accomplished.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But what we're promoting is an upstream strategy that ties together a broad array of programs and opportunities designed to reduce public sector costs, reduce the kinds of suffering, the trauma, the impacts that we see on individuals and families, and do it in a way that ideally never requires the engagement with the mental health system because we have designed interventions so early in this system that we're supporting people so they don't end up needing mental health care. Thank you for the chance. I know that was quick.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We try to give it to you in writing so that we could get to any questions you might have. Appreciate the chance to be here. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Department of Finance.
- Elena Ramos
Person
Good afternoon, Chair Members. My name is Elena Ramos, Department of Finance. We were asked to comment on why there is a negative fund balance in the Mental Health Services Fund. Just note that as of the 2023 Governor's Budget, there is no negative Fund balance. However, the state receives 5% of the annual Mental Health Services Fund's revenues for state-directed purposes. And in recent years, the state-directed expenditures have been higher than the revenues. And that's achievable given that there are carryover fundings from prior years.
- Elena Ramos
Person
We were also asked to comment on whether the term expenditures refers to the funding being distributed to counties or actual expenditures by counties. So with regards to the 95% of annual mental health Services Fund revenues, the Fund Condition Statement reflects the amount allocated to counties as opposed to actual spending by the counties. And lastly, we were also asked to comment on the fact that the state reported 5.8 billion mental health services Fund for past year and the state controller's office reported a different number.
- Elena Ramos
Person
So in the spirit of being brief, the primary difference between the $2 is that the administration's amount includes accrual amounts. So money that is due in the future attributable to the past year.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Yes, LAO, as this is kind of an overview item, we don't have anything to comment, but are available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais for any questions. Dr. Jackson.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Can you describe anything that's in the works into making sure that we are following the best practice of universal screenings for mental health?
- Toby Ewing
Person
That's a good question. So we have not looked at that issue specifically, but there's not consensus on what that means. Best practice in terms of universal screening for mental health. The Commission has a position that everybody who needs care should get care, and through our prevention or intervention work are working to sort of promote that strategy. But when we engage subject matter experts, there are disagreements on what it would mean to adopt that goal and what it would mean to operationalize that.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so I think there's a handful of issues here. One is establishing that as an agreed upon goal, being clear about what we're screening for, the kinds of instruments that we would use, where that screening would get done, and what the response would be when screens reveal something that is needed. We're making progress on suicide screening. We're making progress on screening in schools. But I think we're not yet to the point where the statement you made is something that's being operationalized statewide.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Definitely no, it's not being operationalized. I mean, you look at the US surgeon general's recommendations in regards to youth mental health crisis. One of his recommendations, actually is universal school mental health screenings. Our first surgeon General of California also said that we need to be doing universal screenings. Can you think of anything else we can do that's better than universal screenings? Because at this point, what we're looking at is we're waiting for things to manifest itself. By that time, it could be a suicide.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
By that time, it could be some type of manic issue. But if we talk about prevention and early intervention, I can't see any type of tool or anything we can do that's better than universal screenings. So I'm not sure who is in disagreement with that. Now, operationalizing it, is an issue, not because we can't do it, but because people are trying to hold on to their own systems of power. This is an adult issue that we are looking at.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And so I would just say that if we can look more into that and provide a better way forward so that we can do what we know works. PHQ, right? Even you look at the PHQ for, by the way, PHQ is an assessment tool for depression. When you even look at those key questions, you can tell that something's going on, whether someone has lost their appetite, whether someone can no longer sleep very well, whether someone is losing hope. Right?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
These are key questions in PHQ that even if we did that, think about how many young people we could have on our radar screen to be able to interact with them more so that we can prevent greater mental health things going on. I must admit I'm very frustrated about this, if you can't tell, because we talk about youth being in a national mental health crisis,. Suicides being the second most cause of death, and adults can't get their act together to do something that could literally save lives.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
You have nothing in your purview that is responsible for that. You're just here, and I'm sorry, you're now divine focus. Anyone else want to take the seat? Right.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But the idea is this, we're still not acting as if this is a crisis. We are doing a great job of beginning to look at the whole mental health infrastructure pipeline, directing more money towards facilities. We need more inpatient and outpatient facilities. We need more beds for people to housing for those with mental health issues. We're dealing with it on the homelessness front, we're dealing with workforce dollars, but we're trying to save workforce dollars for these things. Right.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But we're not doing anything right now of significance to stabilize the current population. Right.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And we're seeing some good practices from time to time, but we're not doing it statewide. And if I hear someone tell me about local control one more time before we have to, instead of focusing on saving lives. Right.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I might need an evaluation. So I think the idea is we've got to be more aggressive. I can't think of a time that we're right now that we should not be more aggressive. And so I would urge you to even be more aggressive with your recommendations. Let's really dig in there, because we are in a crisis. And I'm just dumbfounded by system leaders being more concerned with the system than the people that the system is supposed to serve. So I would just urge that we do more. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, Dr. Ewing. I'm going to focus, if I can, on the Commission's work, which are highlighted predominantly on pages 30, 31, and 32. I'd like if I can, for you to speak about the Mental Health Student Services Act implementation and see if you can paint a picture for us on how we're bringing mental health services to our schools.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Thank you, Dr. Arambula, for that question. And I will sort of weave in some responses to Member Jackson along the way, if I may, so you know just recall that the Commission's work on the Mental Health Student Services Act really was designed to incentivize partnerships between school districts, local education agencies, and behavioral health departments, where we had examples of strong partnerships happening across the state. But to Dr. Jackson's point, one-offs or examples, we were not seeing scale.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We were not actually seeing strategies that were learning from one particular program and extending that into these other programs. That capacity to learn and to scale transformational change was missing. The MHSSA, the design that the Commission brought to this was not to try to fight every battle around local control. It was to say, we will incentivize a partnership. And what that partnership looks like needs to be tailored to what's happening in Los Angeles or Del Norte or Imperial or Trinity.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Recognizing that there's lots of differences and in terms of needs, the politics, the relationships, but also their capacity to deliver. And so the Mental Health Student Services Act really wasn't designed to be a unified statewide program. It was designed to be a statewide incentive to create strong partnerships that could be tailored to local needs and that ideally would flourish through the capacity because it's short one-time money, a limited dollars was not a lot of money. 6 million was the largest grant to LA County.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Two and a half million was a grant to smaller counties. And so we never thought that what we could get with that was to pay for care for every student. What we knew we could get was county behavioral health departments and leas that were already working together, to work together better, those that had not yet met each other, to connect in ways that would be supported at our fiscal risk, let us put the money on the table to get them to engage and take risk.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We saw this as an incentive and an opportunity for innovation locally. We went down to Imperial County a few weeks ago and heard from local directors there that it has been phenomenal in that their education leadership and their behavioral health leadership are partnering in ways that they had never spoken to each other. And they're engaging and they're engaging their juvenile justice partners, they're engaging their food banks, they're engaging broad community partners to create a partnership.
- Toby Ewing
Person
They've put more local dollars in, well beyond what the state put in to create that partnership. And we're working to actually bring some young people from imperial up to Sacramento for your May hearing a couple of examples, a young woman shared that she was getting all f's because school was not a safe, comfortable place for her, and because her school provided her with a therapist at school who connected with her teachers, she's passing all her classes.
- Toby Ewing
Person
A young man said, he talked about struggles, and this is a largely impoverished community, right? Farm workers, I think they said 67% non-English speaking in the household, something like 76% free introduced price lunch eligibility across their entire student population. And this young man says, school was not positive for me, and I was out of school more than I was in school until this program came along. And I realized that if I was struggling, going to school got me access to a therapist.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so now I'm actually participating in school as a strategy to actually address the issues that he's dealing with, driven from his community, his family, his life experiences. So Imperial county has really tailored a strategy that meets their needs very different in Ventura, where they're working to build out wellness centers in all of their high schools and all of their middle schools. Some partners are really focusing on screenings and assessments, suicide screenings in particular.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Some are working on trainings for their teachers so they can understand and recognize the needs of mental health needs of the students that are in the classrooms. So we're working to put together sort of a portfolio of what these practices look like. Our role has been to incentivize these partnerships and then to facilitate cross partnership learning. And so we host learning collaborative meetings. We don't have the expertise in school mental health. That's not who our staff are.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We have some, but what we're really trying to do is to connect local partners with each other so that they can learn from each other and get to the point where that scaling and that continuous improvement and that collaborative learning is happening on their dime as part of their normal course of business. That's the best that we could do with one time funding, limited amount of money. And so we'd be happy to give you more examples if you'd like to see those.
- Toby Ewing
Person
In terms of what's happening in your districts or in any districts. Our goal is to really elevate those successful practices so that they scale in ways that still can be tailored to the challenges that are unique to rural, urban, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools and all the above.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll use that then, earlier you stated in your testimony that it's your job to elevate innovation. And you also stated that early psychosis is the most important early intervention that I'd like to try and understand if I can. Your thoughts on early psychosis only being only being in 14 counties out of 58? Since this is the most important strategy, how do we make sure that all counties are aware and are learning from your Commission so that we can Institute this at scale?
- Toby Ewing
Person
So you have in the audience here today and who I think will present one of the foremost national experts on this issue. And I'm hesitant to try to sound smart in front of her or her team. What we did was this project started with hiring researchers to go out and ask tough questions about what's available today and are we delivering highest quality of care. And the answer was, it really depends on where you live.
- Toby Ewing
Person
It depends on what insurance coverage you have, how assertive you are, how aggressive you are, how hard you are willing to fight to get what you need. And in response to that, and consistent with Member Jackson's comments, that's absolutely inappropriate right we use limited funding, one time money to try to incentivize opportunities to strengthen early psychosis care.
- Toby Ewing
Person
The funding that we've made available is from the state, but in partnership working with counties, we've been able to leverage county innovation funding and some federal money and some philanthropic dollars to actually build out a learning collaborative that is designed to be data driven, designed to provide technical assistance and support. And it works with people who want to work with us. And so because we don't have the funding to scale this overnight, what the Commission does is create opportunities and then asks who's interested?
- Toby Ewing
Person
We tend to focus on those folks who want to engage because they're easiest to work with, particularly when this work is hard. And this work is very hard for lots of reasons. I'd say three in particular, workforce, as you all know, as has been discussed in many of these hearings. Second would be technical assistance. People coming out of training programs are not on first day skilled in delivering this kind of care.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so there's a lot of technical assistance to move from typical care, what we might call standard care, to effective evidence based practices. We don't have this problem in other areas of health care. We have this problem in mental health care. And then the last piece is funding. Our financing systems don't actually pay for the care that the research shows is necessary and most effective.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so we have been promoting a range of strategies, including doing research with managed care organizations to see if we can document that it's cost effective for them to pay for evidence based care as a way. Although the mental health costs go up, we anticipate that the overall health care costs would go down because someone can manage their diabetes care better, right? Or they'll avoid ER utilization.
- Toby Ewing
Person
For those reasons, the work we're doing there is probably not going to pay off because there isn't enough time and the subject base isn't big enough to really make the case for insurance companies to voluntarily jump in. But the Commission is promoting a strategy through some of our workplace efforts to encourage the state to leverage the public sector purchasing power of health care benefits through our pension plans, to actually create a marketplace where access to care mental health funding matches expectations for care.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We don't have this problem in other areas of healthcare. We have this problem that there's a mismatch between what we need to do and what we're willing to pay for.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Can you say a little bit more about the innovation summit that's at the top of page 32? When and where was it? Who was there? And what was discussed?
- Toby Ewing
Person
So in 2018, in partnership with county Behavioral Health Directors, with some Philanthropy with Verily Health, which is a healthcare division of Google at the time, hosted an innovation summit. At this point in time, although the Mental Health Services Act requires a 5% set aside for innovation, and the law says use the money or return it, the Commission found that counties were not investing in innovation. And so ultimately, the Auditor and LAO, I've forgotten who actually did the work, found about, or DHCS, found about $350,000,000 in unspent funds. And a significant portion of that was innovation. There was hesitation and frustration on the part of counties about, what does this look like? What does this mean? We did not have streamlined systems for Commission approval or for county approval. And so the innovation summit was designed to sort of kickstart.
- Toby Ewing
Person
What we wanted to do was to create a partnership between the mental health community in California and the innovation community in California, which is why we turned to verily health. Right. And at that time, there was a lot of frustration and pushback in communities, in counties. We had counties that invested in a community garden. In Fresno, your county invested in a community garden as a strategy to engage among immigrant community. And there were editorials saying that this was a complete waste of money.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We wanted to create this partnership so that when counties were trying new things, and even if those new things didn't work out and someone wrote an aggressive, negative response, that the business community would step up and say, I'd rather live in a state that's trying to do better than in a state that's given up.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so we turned to the best innovators in the world to try to bring that culture, that perspective and attitude, and to create stronger freedom and willingness on the part of our county partners to take risks. And subsequent to that summit, it was incredibly successful, and it was really difficult and challenging all at the same time. But in subsequent years, we've seen an explosion of county's interest in innovation, and we've seen a much greater willingness to try creative things.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Much of the innovation that the Commission reviews and approves is more about continuous improvement kinds of things. It's not colonize Mars kinds of innovation. It's how do we get better. The Commission is exploring the idea of hosting a subsequent mental health summit, possibly next year, to really achieve three things. The first is to just celebrate the fact that counties are innovating and how important that is. It's 5% of the MHSA, but it's less than 1% of overall public mental health spending.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so it's a tiny investment that has outsized potential for impact. And so we want to celebrate that because counties are taking risks, they are doing things that are hard. They're doing things that may be bucking traditions or cultures, and so we want to recognize and reward them. Second, we want to identify core priorities that should be on the table for innovation, right? So what are the big challenges, as Member Jackson points out around screen, like, what should we be innovating in? Right?
- Toby Ewing
Person
Where might we identify, how might we identify core issues that should be the focus of this investment from a statewide perspective, but still respecting local decision making? And the third issue would be, as we identify those core challenges, might we identify partners who have expertise, who could lean in, co-invest, and support success, particularly where we're asking the behavioral health system to tackle challenges that are outside of its comfort zone or level of expertise?
- Toby Ewing
Person
California has the academic research potential and capacity that is unrivaled in the world. We have an innovation sector that is unrivaled in tech, in communications. We think that there is no problem that we cannot solve if we can marshal the political capital, the ideas, the resources, the expertise, and point that all of those resources and energies towards those challenges.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so that third issue is about how do we bring together the support that is necessary for this less than 1% investment to actually trigger the kind of transformational change that is necessary that we don't have to have a conversations about. Is screening appropriate? Because we don't have to have that conversation in other areas of healthcare.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, Dr. Ewing. I will thank very much this entire panel. And we will move on to issue two. The focus of the next three issues is on the children and youth. And the first of these is an oversight issue. We will begin with Fiona Lu, a youth advocate with GENup. Will you please begin when you are ready?
- Fiona Lu
Person
Good afternoon, Chair and Members. My name is Fiona Lu, and I'm currently a high school senior at Northwood High School in Orange County, California. I'm also a youth advocate with GENup, a youth-led organization that champions educational equity through state policy and grassroots organizing. It's an honor for me to be here today to talk about youth behavioral health, and I deeply appreciate the State of California for prioritizing youth voices in these spaces.
- Fiona Lu
Person
It's known that every generational cohort witnesses an event so critical in their lifetime that it defines a bonded experience for most people in that age group. Among other things, the pandemic was undoubtedly a major life alteration for Gen Z. I've even heard people make jokes that we can pinpoint the exact moment. All of us were thrilled to be off school for two weeks, thinking that it would just be a small interruption in our lives. This was obviously not the case.
- Fiona Lu
Person
The reality is that the effects of the pandemic are still ongoing and insidious for youth mental health. If you had asked anyone who knew me both before and after the pandemic, they would describe "before me" as outgoing, extroverted, and frankly, annoying, and "after me" as more cold, reserved, and introverted. And there's nothing wrong with being introverted. But the truth is that my change in character was due to my skyrocketing social anxiety from the isolation of the pandemic.
- Fiona Lu
Person
This was coupled with depression and loneliness I already felt in my freshman year because I had been separated at my new school from my friend and my support system because of rezoning in my district. Being trapped in my room and on Zoom for days on end caused my increased anxiety, feelings of sadness, chronic exhaustion, and learning loss, a lot of which I still suffer from today.
- Fiona Lu
Person
This testimony wouldn't be a full and accurate attestment to my mental health journey if I didn't speak about the overarching problem that prevents youth like me from seeking help: the stigma. Like many other youth in California from diverse families, I grew up in a household where I not only felt like mental health was not discussed, but where I also felt like my family hadn't had the opportunity in life to even address their own mental health.
- Fiona Lu
Person
Take my single mother, for example, who juggles work on top of taking care of me, my brother, and my grandma, and running errands to keep our family functioning, leaving her with no time for self healing and seeking help. This is why, at every doctor's visit, with her peering over my shoulder at the teens-only survey they gave me, I would reluctantly choose "never" for all the questions that asked me whether I had experienced any mental health struggles.
- Fiona Lu
Person
I hope that more resources are catered towards parents who are like my mom, who is an immigrant and a Chinese native speaker, and who is also foreign to what mental health awareness looks like in the US with a culture that is vastly different from her homeland. This will help them better understand what their children are going through and how they can help support them in navigating their process. Another critical access points are schools.
- Fiona Lu
Person
As students in the K-12 public education system, we spent a vast amount of our time in the school setting and even after school being integrated in that same setting. The interactions we have daily with our peers, teachers, and school administrators all contribute to what type of environment we foster for ourselves in our schools, and whether that environment is safe or discouraging.
- Fiona Lu
Person
As a student who attends a school that is academically rigorous and puts an emphasis on grades and maximizing our time efficiency, my mental health is also one that is grounded on burnout. Even though my school says they prioritize student mental health, that is not the way that is vastly received by many of my peers. Our teachers still emphasize grades over learning and our counselors and Administration are complacent.
- Fiona Lu
Person
Recently, my school implemented a punitive tardy policy that locks students out of class even if they are a minute late, which causes them to get to class even later, sometimes 10 or 15 minutes. This is a disruption to their learning, other peers, and for the teacher. During this tardy sweep, they had also even played music that sounded like purge music on the school speaker, which made students feel mocked and ashamed.
- Fiona Lu
Person
Educators need to receive adequate and meaningful trainings that are student-centered to learn how excessive schools, disciplines such as these, which keep students away from class rather than incentivizes them to have a good relationship with schools, are dangerous and affect the most vulnerable groups. As someone who had trouble waking up for school in my freshman year because of chronic tiredness, I had no doubt that this policy would have driven me away from feeling safe at school even more.
- Fiona Lu
Person
California is a leading state with the mental health resources that we provide for our youth, families, and schools in many other communities. And even though this is the case, we still recognize that we have a long way to go in supporting our most impacted communities. And with that, thank you for allowing me to share my experience today.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Our next speaker is Kassy Poles, who is a youth mental health advocate and a member of the Children and Youth Behavioral Health Initiative Advisory Board. Begin when you are ready.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
Hi, how are you guys doing today? Hi, my name is Cassie and I'm a youth advocate. We are at a record high for the amount of people seeking mental health services. Mental illness is the most common health condition faced by Californians. Nearly one in seven California adults experience a mental illness. One in 26 experience a serious mental illness, and one in 14 children have emotional disturbances. Currently 5.7, which is about three and a half million people, have unmet mental health needs.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
36% of those people could not afford to get the help they needed, but 67% could. I have been a receiver of mental health services for more than half of my life, and I can personally vouch for this, and the difficulty in finding services that are timely and aligned with who I am and what I need.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
Before the pandemic, our mental health care system was already in a crisis situation with the second opiate wave, continued stigma around mentioning mental health, a continued lack of resources and education all over the state, and the mentality of punishment over rehabilitation was already wearing down the system. When Covid came, the system came tumbling down with it. After having my therapist of 10 years quit, I went two years without active mental health treatment, despite given outside referrals, but yet no providers returning my calls.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
This led me to a crisis point in which I am still recovering from. I was told by four Kaiser hospitals that I was not sick enough for their intensive outpatient program, despite having severe depression, nearly having a manic episode, and self medicating, the best they could do was three crisis counseling sessions in which I had to wait two weeks before my first appointment. I never want anyone to go through the experience of feeling like they need to harm themselves to get help.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
In these unprecedented times, we are being handed the golden ticket to collaborate and create a functional system that would be able to hold its own for decades. In an article written by CalMatters, Christine Stoner-Mertz was quoted saying, "the question in our minds is, what is the approach and process to solving some of these problems? We would welcome greater partnership around that," and this is where I come in.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
I'm here today as both a receiver of mental health care services and as an advocate to tell you what the solutions can be. And it's pretty simple. Youth involvement, engagement and continuous education, and more access to substance abuse resources, but above all else, love and compassion. Earlier this year, California Health and Human Services, as part of the CYBHI initiative, published a report called Youth at the Center. It gives us 12 call-to-actions to reimagine the system.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
But as evident today, we are missing one very huge and important aspect of this: youth. We must have youth be involved and they must have a seat at the table. We want to be involved and we want to be actively participating. I don't think youth get enough credit for what they're capable of bringing to the table. And if the adults in the room cannot work in partnership with each other and offer youth the support they need, nothing will change.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
Senate Bill 224, which was signed into law in 2021, requires that schools with health classes now have to expand the curriculum by the curriculum set by the Department of Education to include mental health. However, the scope of this Bill was limited to only those schools that offer health service, that offer health classes, and gives no extra funding to do so.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
If we can barely give an equal educational opportunity to all walks of life in the state, how can we expect there to be culturally sensitive, diverse and effective education about mental health? When I was in elementary school, we had a thing called Ocean Week, which was a week dedicated to learning about different aspects of the ocean. So I think there should probably be a thing called mental health week, where every year from K-12, students learn and discuss mental health through evidence-based practices.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
This can be done by partnering with outside nonprofits and educational programs. Studies have shown that this leads to an increase in suicide prevention awareness, a decrease in depression and suicide attempts, as well as creating solidarity and better peer support among the school community. It also provides access for all. I'm hopeful about a Bill moving through legislation this year, SB 509, that aims to mandate mental health instruction at all schools.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
24 counties in California have no detox or MAT treatment options or harm reduction programs like needle exchanges, safe injection centers, and lack of naloxone, which as a result, these counties have much higher rates of overdose. Every county should have to sustain a set number of recovery resources per capita, and those resources need to be placed within marginalized communities and receive adequate funding by the state. We also need to change the perception of these words. Needle exchanges do not create more drug addicts.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
It simply allows for those who already use the ability to get clean supplies, which lessens the burden on the system from overdoses, HIV, hepatitis and other illnesses. It can also lead a person to getting help in a way that's nonjudgmental and in a safe environment. As a former heroin and meth addict, substance use felt very limited. When I entered treatment at 20, it felt very isolating.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
I have always had the viewpoint that we need more harm reduction and that it needs to be more acceptable in addiction medicine, especially as young people are being more and more involved in choosing their treatment plans. You shouldn't have to be ready to entirely quit using before you're able to get help. It allows you to go at your own pace and do what sets you up for success.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
We need to stop having the one-size-fits-all approach. For some, abstinence work, but it creates a wall of shame and embarrassment. You also shouldn't have to live in fear of being punished for having mental health issues. The formula is pretty simple: youth involvement, engagement and continuous education, as well as more access to substance abuse resources and loving one another. What are you guys going to do to make this happen? Any questions?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I got a ton and we'll ask them at the end, but I'm just going to take a moment and appreciate both Kassy and Fiona for grounding us in the perspective of our youth. It's very important for us and it was intentional as well to make sure that we both created the space, but look forward to being able to engage in conversations as soon as we finish this panel.
- Kassandra Poles
Person
Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we will hear from Director Melissa Stafford Jones, who's the Director of the Children's and Youth Behavioral Health Initiative.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Good afternoon, Dr. Arambula and Members of the Committee. Again, Melissa Stafford Jones, Director of the Children Youth Behavioral Health Initiative at the California Health and Human Services Agency. Thank you for inviting CalHHS today and for the opportunity to provide an overview and a status update of the work underway on the CYBHI. Behavioral health continues to be a top priority for this Administration.
- Melissa Jones
Person
We are fully committed to accomplishing our transformational goals to improve the mental health, well being, services and ongoing supports for all Californians, including our children and youth who we know are struggling. And this is a commitment we know we share with all of you and appreciate the leadership of the Legislature on the critical issue of children's mental well being.
- Melissa Jones
Person
As you know, the CYBHI is a five year, $4.7 billion initiative working to reimagine and transform the system supporting behavioral health and well being for children and youth into a more coordinated, youth-centered, equitable and prevention-oriented ecosystem of services and supports. It's a core element of the Governor's master plan for kids mental health, which takes an all-of-the-above, cross-sector, systems-change approach to improve kids well being and access to services.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And we know the need continues to be significant and urgent, with children and youth continuing to struggle as they have over the last decade with increasing mental health challenges.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And we also know that although these challenges for youth have grown overall and can affect all youth, some groups of youth are disproportionately impacted, including our BIPOC youth and families, LGBTQ+ youth, youth from low-income and underserved communities. And these groups face more systemic barriers to accessing services and supports and building a more equitable ecosystem is core to the work of the CYBHI, and the Legislature's and Governor's recent budget investments and actions underscore the commitment to solutions to addressing these issues.
- Melissa Jones
Person
We have heard loud and clear from our partners working on the CYBHI over the first 18 months of implementing the initiative that simply doing more of how systems and services work today is not good enough and will not be effective in building the systems and services youth and families need for mental health and well being. And I think we just heard that from our two youth as well. Partners emphasize the need for fundamental transformational change, and we recognize that the systemic change is needed.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Breaking down silos, coordinating across systems as Assemblymember Jackson talked about, in ways that actually center kids and help them access the supports and services they need as early as possible. Reducing stigma and discrimination cannot be addressed overnight, but the need for this work is acknowledged universally at the Legislature and among our partners.
- Melissa Jones
Person
We have particularly heard this from youth, as you heard already today, who have challenged us to redefine treatment to include not only clinical services, but also things like arts, activities, mindfulness, access to safe parks and green space, access to peer services, and as you heard so powerfully from Miss Poles about love and compassion relationships with caring adults, that culture and culturally relevant practices must be part of healing, youth have emphasized.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Youth have told us they need systems to stop waiting until they are in crisis to support them, that they want and need a behavioral health workforce that looks like them, speaks their language, comes from their communities, and understands their experience. Youth have also told us, as we heard from the youth who presented, about the importance of ensuring that their parents and their families have the care and supports they need because our young people know that affects their well being.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And youth have also told us that the harm systems have caused to the mental health and well being of some youth families and communities in the past must be recognized for them to trust that the improved systems we are all working on will truly support them. What youth and families want and need to improve behavioral health is summarized in the recent report that was mentioned, Youth at the Center, and its findings are really grounding and guiding the work of the Children and Youth Behavioral Health Initiative.
- Melissa Jones
Person
All of the work streams in the Children and the Youth Behavioral Health Initiative are continuing to engage youth and families. The initiative overall is also in the process of forming a children, youth and family engagement network that will continue to strengthen and build our capacity for ongoing youth engagement in the CYBHI, including the formation of an evaluation advisory group to the CYBHI that will include youth and families, and I'm pleased that Ms. Poles has actually agreed to be a member of that group.
- Melissa Jones
Person
We are also in the process of working to hire a youth fellow to be part of our CYBHI team at CalHHS. CYBHI has been progressing with research, planning and design and we are now actively moving into the implementation phase with many of the CYBHI's 20 component work streams.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Through the end of 2022, we had engaged over 1000 organizations in our efforts across multiple sectors of health, education, community, families and youth, conducted almost 400 listening sessions and expert and stakeholder interviews, and held over 75 roundtables and focus group discussions. We've held almost 50 events directly engaging youth and families, and cross sector collaboration and centering what youth and families want and need is central in the work.
- Melissa Jones
Person
The input, the insights, the expertise from both lived and professional experience from our engagement with our partners is shaping the plans and work underway through the CYBHI. And meeting kids where they are at is critical to increasing access to behavioral health services and supports, and we know that schools are where many kids are.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Health school partnership is core to the work of the CYBHI and includes multiple efforts to support increased access to school linked behavioral health supports and services for students, which you will be hearing more about from my colleague Autumn Boylan, as well as other presenters today. CYBHI also released a working paper earlier this year on this issue about how do we put into practice more coordinated efforts across education and the health systems.
- Melissa Jones
Person
For example, CalHHS and the California Department of Education are in discussions around how we can support coordinated implementation of community schools and the CYBHI at both the state and local level. The overall work of the CYBHI has four main focus areas, building the behavioral health workforce, building infrastructure we need across the ecosystem for that more coordinated, integrated approach. Coverage and all payer financing and increasing public awareness and reducing stigma as we heard from our youth is so incredibly important.
- Melissa Jones
Person
The work in each of these focus areas is led by and coordinated across multiple departments within CalHHS, and you will be hearing from those departments about their specific work streams next from the Department of Healthcare Services, and later in the agenda, from the California Department of Health, Public Health and the Healthcare Access and Information Department about the concrete activities and progress underway in each of the work streams that their departments are leading.
- Melissa Jones
Person
In January of this year, we also published a CYBHI progress report, which is available on our website to provide updates on the activities and accomplishments of each component. Spending plans of over $2.3 billion for work underway across the CYBHI are in place for years '21/'22 and '22/'23, combined with an additional estimated $750,000,000 planned spending in '23/'24 additional funds will be spent as they become available in the out years of the initiative.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And lastly, for the initiative overall, CalHHS has selected Mathematica as our evaluation partner for the CYBHI, and groundwork is underway for the evaluation, including, as I mentioned, formation of an evaluation advisory group, finalization of our outcomes, goals, and ongoing work to make the evaluation a learning process along the way, and not only a report that comes out at the very end, but hopefully an opportunity to be learning along the way.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Before turning it over to my colleague, Autumn Boylan from DHCS, to report on the specific work that DHCS is leading, I was asked to provide a brief report on the two CYBHI components underway through the Office of the Surgeon General. The first of those is that the Office of the Surgeon General was funded $1 million under the CYBHI to develop a trauma-informed training for early care and education personnel to help build an overall more trauma-informed system of services and supports, since we know that stress and trauma can have a significant impact on a child's health, development and their ability to learn. The training is designed to provide foundational knowledge and the Office of the Surgeon General has worked with an expert working group as well as many stakeholders over the last year to inform its development. Beta testing by 200+ practitioners in the field was recently completed and the training will be publicly online for free to educators and other child serving staff this summer.
- Melissa Jones
Person
It includes specific modules for three age groups: 0 to 5, 5 to 11, and 12 to 18, and is computer, smartphone and tablet compatible. The training is designed to engage the learner with examples, strategies and practices that vary according to developmental stage served, and includes topics such as identifying activated stress responses, self regulation for children and adults, and looking at practices and conditions that really support safe and supportive relationships and environments in schools.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And I think we heard from Miss Poles about the importance of that work. The OSG will be working in the coming months to deploy the training and help make sure it reaches its target audiences and to hear ongoing feedback on the training.
- Melissa Jones
Person
The second work stream under the Office of the Surgeon General is part of CYBHI's fourth bucket of work to increase public awareness and help kids get connected to needed services and supports. And as part of that, OSG is implementing an ACEs and toxic stress public awareness campaign that was created in the CYBHI.
- Melissa Jones
Person
The campaign aims to provide awareness, support and healing strategies for individuals and communities by increasing awareness of the impact of trauma on a child's health and development, providing support to parents and caregivers in raising resilient children and creating positive experiences for them, while also supporting older youth with the tools to enhance self care and reduce stress. The campaign will highlight and engage communities in practical strategies that parents, caregivers and young people can build upon.
- Melissa Jones
Person
The campaign will primarily focus on engaging economically disadvantaged LGBTQ + and rural communities, communities of color, immigrants, refugees, justice and welfare-involved youth and young people ages 18 to 24. A campaign vendor contract was recently awarded and the campaign is anticipated to launch in the fall of this year. Thank you for the opportunity to present today and I look forward to answering your questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Our next speaker is Autumn Boylan, Deputy Director of Office of Strategic Partnerships with the Department of Healthcare Services.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Good afternoon and thank you for having us here today, Chair Arambula and Members, and thank you to Ms. Poles and Ms. Lu for their testimony this afternoon. We have had the pleasure of working with Ms. Poles in the work that we've done at the Department of Healthcare Services and some of her colleagues, and really appreciate having their voice and their bravery coming here before this audience today.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
The Department has made significant progress and taken important steps to implement the key provisions of the Children and Youth Behavioral Health Initiative that we oversee, including improving access to critical behavioral health services and supports for children, youth and families across the state. Over the past 18 months, our Department has engaged extensively with over 1000 unique and diverse stakeholders from across the state, as well as key implementation partners for the work that we are leading.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Most importantly, we've worked to include voices from youth and families as well as caregivers in this work. We've also engaged with our local education agency partners, educators, healthcare providers and payers, behavioral health experts, and community-based organizations, among others. We have done this through key informant interviews, town hall sessions, roundtables, surveys, work groups, two expert panel think tanks, and monthly webinars where we've shared information publicly on all of the status of our work streams.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We have, in all of this work, prioritized hearing from children, youth and families, and not just hearing from, but actively engaging as partners, youth in the work that we've been doing. We have convened with a youth advisory panel who has explicitly informed the work that we've done around the virtual services platform and school-based services, and have partnered with Ms. Poles and others to help co-facilitate focus groups with other youth throughout the state.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We've engaged in total with over 300 children and youth, and really we do not have a "if we build it, they will come" approach to this work. We know that it needs to be designed by and for youth and with their voices in mind.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Throughout this engagement, we've also sought to engage diverse populations, regions and age groups, making sure that we're inclusive of individuals from Black, Latinx, Asian American, LGBTQ+ communities, as well as other historically underserved populations such as rural communities, families experiencing homelessness, justice-involved and foster youth. We've also convened over 200 leading experts in think tanks and various work groups and will continue to partner throughout our work. At the Department, we oversee 12 different work streams.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
I'm going to give a brief update on some of those work streams today. In January of 2023, so just this year, the Department implemented the Medi‐Cal dyadic services and dyadic caregiver services benefits. Dyadic services integrate physical and behavioral health screening and services for the whole family during a child's well visit, and not just the child who is the identified patient.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Adding dyadic services as a Medi‐Cal benefit offers sustainable funding to create and maintain this infrastructure for integrated care for children, creating seamless access to behavioral health assessments and connection to other locally available services as needed. We are also leading efforts around the Behavioral Health Virtual Services Platform, which will launch in January of 2024.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
The Behavioral Health Virtual Services Platform is a technology-driven solution for all children, youth and families in California that will improve access by offering youth, parents and caregivers a new way to access behavioral health services and supports. The platform will provide support and resources such as interactive digital education tools, self monitoring tools, app-based games, mindfulness exercises, and access to free on-demand, one-to-one coaching and counseling supports. It'll also include the opportunity for young people and parents and caregivers to engage in screening and assessment.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
To better understand the behavioral health needs of our youth, we conducted an extensive market scan to review digital behavioral health platforms that exist in the world today--so not just in California, but across the globe--conducted a request for information and numerous vendor demonstrations to get to the right answer for California's digital behavioral health solution.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We recently announced that we have selected a primary vendor partner, Kooth, and Kooth is a pioneer in youth-focused digital behavioral health, with a platform that is today accessible to over 8 million teens and young adults. In partnership with Kooth and other selected vendors, we will continue to conduct extensive user testing to obtain input from youth and families as key partners in the design, content creation and functionality of the platform to make sure that it meets the needs of our youth.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
These activities will continue both prior to and after the go live in January. We are also working with leading vendors to provide a statewide eConsult solution for pediatric and primary care providers to be able to connect and get consultation from licensed behavioral health providers in the state.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
To date, we have engaged extensively with leading experts on the econsult services and recently launched a work group representing primary care providers, pediatricians, behavioral health experts and others to help inform the design of the statewide solution, which will launch in January of 2024.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We have also worked with stakeholders closely to identify and scale evidence-based and community-defined evidence practices through a granting initiative that is scaling these practices throughout the state based on robust evidence for effectiveness and the impact that the practices have in terms of racial equity and sustainability.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We publish a grant strategy document outlining our approach to scaling these evidence-based and community-defined evidence practices across six distinct rounds of funding, with each having a distinct priority focus for the funding. And to date, we have released the funding applications for two out of six of the rounds of funding and are getting prepared to release the other rounds of funding.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
The six rounds of funding focus on parent and caregiver support and training programs, particularly focused on supports for young children ages zero to 12, including practices such as Triple P, Incredible Years and Healthy Steps, which is the foundation of the medical dyadic services benefit.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We are also scaling trauma-informed practices and programs such as trauma-focused CBT, cognitive behavioral intervention for trauma in schools, multisystemic therapy and others. Early childhood wraparound programs including home visiting models and infant and early childhood mental health consultation, youth driven programs in partnership with the Mental Health Services Oversight and Accountability Commission, including the ALCOVE model, early intervention programs particularly focused on early psychosis, which we know is of particular interest to this panel today. And partnering with the California Department of Public Health to identify strategy to scale community defined evidence practices in a managed care environment.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
As I mentioned, we are working closely with the Mental Health Services Oversight and Accountability Commission, who will lead, in consultation with DHCS, the Grant Administration activities and provide technical assistance to grantees for the ALCOVE Program and coordinated specialty care. We also are leading, as part of the master plan and the CYBHI, a number of initiatives to expand access to mental health and substance use disorder services and supports for children and youth through schools.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
This is building off of and leveraging the work that has already been done around the Mental Health Student Services Act, which you heard Director Ewing talk about earlier today, as well as the Community Schools Initiative, as Melissa Stafford Jones mentioned in her opening comments. In collaboration with the California Department of Managed Healthcare, we are working to develop and maintain a school-linked, statewide all-peer fee schedule that will reimburse school-based and school-linked providers for delivery of outpatient mental health and substance use disorder services.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
This includes psychoeducation services, screenings for school-age children for both mental health and substance use disorder services, treatment case consultation, and many services within those categories. The fee schedule will launch beginning in January of 2024 and will be implemented across the state in a phased approach to ensure successful participation by all publicly funded K-12 schools and districts, as well as the California Community Colleges, California State Universities, and University of California systems for all students under the age of 26.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
The goal of the fee schedule is to simplify reimbursement processes and administrative burdens for schools, school districts and their partner organizations, including community-based organizations, county behavioral health departments and behavioral health providers to obtain reimbursement from all payers. So that's what makes the CYBHI so unique. It's not just the medic health program or commercial health plans, but really thinking about that universal approach to making sure that children in our schools have access to the necessary behavioral services and supports.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
This includes services provided at school or near school through partnerships between schools and communities. DHCS and the Department of Managed Healthcare collaborated to launch a statewide cross-sector work group, consisting of over 60 members representing local education agencies, education sector associations and union representatives, county offices of education, county behavioral health departments, health plans, both commercial and Medi-Cal, among others, and we acknowledge that this is a complicated and complex initiative.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
There are still many outstanding policy and operational questions about the fee schedule implementation that we are working with our colleagues and implementation partners to address. We are carefully considering input from our implementation partners around policy decisions in collaboration with our schools and health plan partners, as well as the counties. And the intent of the workgroup is to help inform these complex policy and operational decisions, and the workgroup will continue to meet throughout 2023 and beyond as necessary to inform this work.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We also meet separately and regularly with county behavioral health plans and associations, the health plans and associations, and local education agencies and a large coalition of education leaders.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We are working closely with the LEA and institutions of higher education partners to also, in conjunction with this fee schedule effort, to design the granting initiative for the School-Linked Partnership and Capacity Grants, which will be used to support operational readiness and help schools be positioned to be able to deliver a wider array of services to students on school campuses. We are finalizing the grant design administration strategy and anticipate issuing the grants beginning in June of this year.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
And we also, as part of the Student Behavioral Health Incentive Program, have launched in 2022 the incentive program to encourage managed care plans to partner and build sustainable relationships and infrastructure between the Medi-Cal managed care plans and local education agencies, which will also lay a foundation for the work we are doing with the fee schedule as well.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
The Student Behavioral Health Incentive Program improves coordination of student behavioral health services, increased access to preventative and early intervention behavioral health services for transitional kindergarten through twelveth grade, increases mental health services on or near school campuses and increases access to behavioral health services through school-affiliated behavioral health providers.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Furthermore, through the CalHOPE Student Support Initiative, DHCS and its partners have established a statewide social and emotional learning community of practice, which aims to provide resources, training, and support to local education agencies for implementing social and emotional learning programming in schools, including some of those that were mentioned by our youth speakers, such as partnering with nonprofits to be able to provide SEL programming in schools. DHCS also launched with partners, the calhopeschools.org website that ensures that these resources are available statewide through our CalHOPE program.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
As we roll out all of these school based initiatives, DHCs and DMHC are also developing oversight strategies to ensure successful implementation and coordination of these programs at the local level, working with our colleagues at the Department of Education and State Board of Education to coordinate and align implementation strategies for the CYBHI community schools and other programs.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We are also engaging regularly with the local education agencies, health plan partners, and counties as we address operational considerations such as quality oversight and monitoring, which we know is at the forefront of their minds as well.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
And furthermore, all Medi-Cal managed care plans will be required to enter into memorandum of understanding with the local education agencies in their service area is beginning in 2025, and this MOU requirement will include the provisions related to coordinating various school-based services and programs and efforts between the managed care plans and the local education agencies. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Our next speaker is Dr. Toby Ewing.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair and Members. Toby Ewing, on behalf of the Mental Health Commission, the agenda really highlights. A couple of questions here for the Commission. Do we see gaps in the state's efforts to meet the behavioral health needs of children and youth and our counties making good use of the funds that are available under the MHSA?
- Toby Ewing
Person
And we don't have to look farther than the Administration's handout that identifies some of the statistics around suicide risk, just profound sense of hopelessness among young people who should be at their most sort of joyous and hopeful times in their lives. And so the data really suggests profound impacts. I want to highlight that we're seeing tremendous work happening across the state, as evidenced by the testimony that you just heard on school mental health, on prevention, improved access to care, youth empowerment.
- Toby Ewing
Person
The young people presenting before you today is phenomenal, something that we're seeing more and more in the Legislature, exceedingly rare two years ago. And so the state is making profound progress in terms of tackling the issues. We're asking the questions about universal screening that we weren't asking before, but we're not at the point where we don't need to ask those questions right. We're not at the point where we can say that we should pat ourselves on the back and that we're done.
- Toby Ewing
Person
It is still too hard to access care services and supports are often unavailable in ways that are tailored to who these individuals are, where they live, work, play, love, and spend their time. We have tremendous barriers to care. Item one on this agenda references some reauthorization funding that we're seeking, in part because we've given funds out to counties and they've given it back. I'll use the youth, the alcove funding in particular. Alcove on paper is a very elegant, simple, tailored strategy.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Open the door, let young people walk in and meet their needs. Physical health, primary health care, mental health supports, no questions asked all payer strategy consistent with CYBHI, we've had county partners turn down the money because it's harder to implement than it should be. Few providers do the level of integrated primary health care and mental health care that young people are seeking.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And we know if they come in for the primary health care and we need to send them down the street, around the corner in the next town or wait a month to get access to the mental health care, they won't follow up. International research shows if you integrate the services, if you open the door, if you design the service with youth in Santa Clara County, where we helped support the first alcove. They asked young people to interview the staff who were being considered for hiring.
- Toby Ewing
Person
They were going to hire a very qualified nurse practitioner. And the young people said the vibe isn't there. They didn't hire that person because they put young people first in front, in the design, in the delivery, even in the staffing of services. Who is going to be most appropriate working with the young people who are going to walk in the door? It's very difficult.
- Toby Ewing
Person
On paper it looks easy, but in practice, because of funding and licensing and the hiring and training, we've designed this system to look very different. I was thinking about this and if we want to serve whoever walks in the door, we really need to rethink the design of the system consistent with what CYBHI is doing, right? All payers, all comers, not separating out based on who the insurer is, what the diagnosis is, but really streamlining care. So we're making tremendous progress.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But there's a lot of work to be done. Are counties using MHD funds to serve children and youth effectively? Absolutely. Pick a county. We can show you a phenomenal program in every county, but we still have the issue that Dr. Jackson has pointed out, that because it exists in a county doesn't mean it's statewide. What we're trying to do with youth Alcove is to create a consistent, youth driven, branded model that is available statewide.
- Toby Ewing
Person
That if a young person participates in an alcove program in Santa Clara and they happen to be in San Diego, they know what they're going to get when they knock on that door. We're trying to actually recognize the local control and achieve statewideness at the same time. And that gets very difficult to do. This is a really tough question to answer because it's written in the spirit of do we have access to effective services everywhere? We don't have a unified mental health system.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We have this mosaic of thousands of programs that are all different and they're different for different individuals in different communities. And that is both a strength and it's an incredible limitation in terms of asking the kind of statewide overarching questions that you're trying to get at is, are we serving Californians to the best of our ability? One of the things I was thinking about this question, and too many children and youth and families first, we don't recognize the mental health needs that we have.
- Toby Ewing
Person
When we do recognize mental health needs, it's very difficult to know how to get what you need right. And then if you have a strong sense of what you're looking for or what you need. It's then difficult to get access using the early psychosis example, as an area where we're hoping to create improvements, right? So we don't necessarily have that high level awareness of what mental health is and what it means to be healthy.
- Toby Ewing
Person
When illness requires some sort of response, how to seek care, and then whether or not the care we're getting is the care we need, we don't do this in healthcare. Right? Imagine if the majority of Californians started their health care journey only when they got sick or felt pain. And the first stop was, I'm going to Google stomach ache, and then I'm going to start looking around and saying, well, who could actually pay for? Who do I turn to when my stomach hurts?
- Toby Ewing
Person
And who's going to pay for that? And what services and what's the weight? Am I going to go to the podiatrist for this stomach ache because of that mismatch between the services that I need and what may be available? We have to rethink this system through this much more upstream strategy. Consistent with the comments earlier about screening, about awareness, today my kids are hosting a convening at McClatchy High School for 150 young people to talk teens to teens talking about mental health.
- Toby Ewing
Person
This really is about empowering young people to be vocal about what their needs are, what's working and what's not working. And it really is about our ability to listen to them and to put in place strategy that will be helpful. So the short answer is counties are doing some phenomenal things.
- Toby Ewing
Person
The real answer is we're falling way short of where we need to be, and we have to do a better job of making it easier for our local partners to be successful and harder for them to make it less likely for them to struggle in doing what they want to do, what they know is right, and what they have the potential to do in terms of meeting those needs. Happy to answer any questions you might have.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Thank you. Next we will hear from Michelle Cabrera, Executive Director of the County Behavioral Health Directors Association.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Good afternoon, chair and Members Michelle Cabrera with the County Behavioral Health Directors Association. I was asked to speak today to the challenges that county behavioral health agencies are experiencing in implementing services for children and youth in this moment post pandemic. And first, I want to reiterate and affirm what Dr. Ewing just said, which is that counties are doing some amazing work in serving children and youth.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And one of the main challenges that they face does go to some of these structural issues around funding, which goes back to insurance coverage, right.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We are able to do so much of the amazing work that we do that is prevention oriented, that is upstream of illness, that is engaging children and youth in connection in culturally and linguistically meaningful ways, in large part because of the MHSA and specifically prevention and early intervention funds within the MHSA, there are significant gaps in coverage, there are significant shortages in the workforce, and those things, I think are connected. Right.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
If you don't have enough insurance payers out in the world to provide reimbursement to the workforce that you need, you're going to have a very inadequate and lopsided workforce. And that's part of what we see today. We see specialists and these really vibrant programs in pockets and patchwork throughout the state that are funded with these unique sources of funding under county behavioral health. But we don't see the safety net supported and bolstered through long term, sustainable and varied payers in this system. Right.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So I think it's important to sort of highlight and lift up some of those structural and systemic challenges, because when we talk about funding and systems, it's not because we care about our own needs, it's because we see what's possible. But we're only out on that little isthmus. Right. We need to build a whole landscape that is supported in those ways. I want to say a little bit, too, about what counties have done.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We surveyed our Members and we found that 85% of county behavioral health agencies already had some form of school based services. Obviously not entirely to scale, but our perspective is really unique because most counties already are in schools, and that's been growing with investments like the MHSSA. I asked counties why they had invested so significantly in school based services, and they said, we're looking for our kids. We need to go where they are at, right.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And most kids, after a certain age, they're not hanging out in primary care. Luckily, historically, the challenges that we've had in building out those school based services have come down to, you have to build partnerships across systems. Right. So you have to engage with your education partners who are busy with their own business of trying to run a school and educate kids. Right? So you're trying to get in the door to say, hey, partner with me. We want to help.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And then the other piece is space. Like, literally space, right. We've had clinicians who are delivering school based services out of janitor's closets, quite literally because there's no other place for them to do confidential services. So really practical things like that. The last thing I want to highlight is that gap in coverage issue.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And for a long time, MediCal was actually a very inadequate payer of school based services because we had to establish that a kid met the very high bar of needing specialty services, meaning they had some sort of functional impairment in order for them to get into county behavioral health medical services. So we were just paying with MHSSA to cover both MediCal kids who weren't at that level of severity, and kids with private insurance.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so we've been kind of holding up a whole lot and schools don't get to turn kids away based on their insurance status, right? Schools serve everybody and so they very rightfully said, if you come onto our campus, we want to know that everybody gets served. Right? That's an appropriate request. I think under the CYBHI, this is going to totally take the chessboard and sort of flip it on its head and rearrange all of the different pieces.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so I think it's important for us to understand what the impacts of that will be and how it's going to work out. We think it will be most effective if we are looking at having all the Clinicians working at the top of their license and for those services to be sustainably funded and supported. There is a difference in terms of the way that the fee schedule is being conceptualized today. It's thought of as budget neutral.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So you don't have a line item in the budget to Fund the fee schedule. Why is that? Because it is assumed that existing insurance payers already have responsibility to serve children and youth. However, the reality is most likely private plans are going to increase premiums to cover the cost of the fee schedule. Most likely Medi Cal managed care plans will get their capitated rates adjusted. County behavioral health plans, we get what we get, right?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
It's not tied to population, it's not tied to those sorts of things. What we do argue is that the state does owe us reimbursement for new services over what we already provide to cover the cost of the fee schedule. Otherwise we will be robbing Peter to pay Paul. We're going to be taking out of one area of our services to cover the fee schedule services. Right now, the fee schedule is contemplated to be substance use disorder services for us.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And to the comments of the earlier speaker, we absolutely agree that we need to do so much more with youth SUD treatment and access to those services. Schools can be a little tricky in terms of Sud services because they're not all friendly places to kids coming out and saying I'm using alcohol or I'm using drugs, right. That can get a child suspended from school or even expelled or worse. They could face criminal charges because it's all illegal.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so there are a lot of different serious considerations that come into play when you're talking about citing SUD services at school. And we as county behavioral health have experience in this and we have a really big stake in making sure that we're ultimately protecting kids and doing it in a way that is quality and that, again, keeps them safe. But yes, to all the comments about harm reduction, broadly speaking, we definitely see that and support it.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
In order to bring this to scale, we also need to understand, again, the underlying workforce considerations. And I will say nothing about bringing school based services to scale looks free from where we sit. Our workforce is too scarce, demand for their services is too high, and frankly, at this moment in time, they are burned out. Our workers deserve a living wage and the system funding to support that does need to go along with it.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Otherwise, where consumers will be left, whether they're Medi Cal, whether they're privately insured, whomever is in the same frustrating position that people are in today, getting ghost lists from health plans to call providers who don't return their phone calls. And one thing we don't want to see with the implementation of them CYBHI is more of the same as we heard before. I'm happy to answer any questions, but thank you so much for the opportunity to speak with you today.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nate Williams
Person
Nate Williams with Department of Finance. Nothing further add but available for questions.
- Ryan Miller
Person
Ryan Miller. LAO, nothing to add but available for questions. Thanks.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
LAO.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Bring it up to the Dias for any Members questions. Dr. Jackson.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
And if I can invite the youth to come forward as well. I just want to make sure you have a seat at the table.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Not for Department of Finance, Ms. Jones and Boylan.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And for our young people. I'm so sorry I missed your presentation, but good job anyway. All right. If I walk on a school campus in the 2024, 2025 school year and I'm a young person, what should I see different then than I see today?
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Sure. Thank you for your question. In 24, 25 when we start to phase in the fee schedule, schools will have the option to participate and we would expect there to be some ramp up in terms of the implementation of the fee schedule. We're working with our LA partners closely to make sure that they are ready to implement the fee schedule across the state, but I would expect that you would see more programming in schools across the state.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
I think the needs of various school sizes and districts will vary. Different schools have different models for how they deliver healthcare services, including behavioral health services. Some have wellness centers and programs that they are operating on their school campus. Some partner with county behavioral health departments, as you just heard from Michelle Cabrera. Others have partnerships with community based organizations and behavioral health providers in the community.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
So it varies across the state, but there will be a more sustainable access to resources provided and reimbursed through the commercial health plans and the medical managed care plans so that schools have a sustainable source of funding to support students'behavioral health needs on campus and through off campus partnerships with community based organizations.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
What measurements are we using to ensure that if they access those funds, that it's based upon a best practice or based upon what the actual needs is, instead of just checking a box?
- Autumn Boylan
Person
So there's a variety of services that will be included on the fee schedule, including evidence based interventions and services that will be available in schools across the state. We are also looking to, as part of the CYBHI evaluation, identify specific measures that we will be reviewing as part of the evaluation to determine the effectiveness of these programs across the state, looking at things like reduced utilization of emergency Department services, reduced hospitalizations, reduced absenteeism, and other markers of student success and youth success in our state.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
So many things that we're looking at, and I think Stafford Jones could speak to the evaluation.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Thanks, autumn. Yes, we are certainly looking in terms of our outcomes, goals at both for the fee schedule itself, sort of how it's being utilized, the takeup rate, what that means in terms of accessible services, but also overall, are we decreasing barriers and increasing access to supports and services?
- Melissa Jones
Person
And is that the perception of youth and families that they know how to get to the point that was made earlier, that they feel like they have more routes and they know how to get to the supports and services that they need and they actually feel like their well being is improved or certainly part of outcomes goals.
- Melissa Jones
Person
I'd also note that in the 2425 school year, we would hope that there are more education professionals who have had the opportunity to engage in the trauma informed training that I described earlier. We know that many schools already do that kind of training, but we've also heard from our partners that not all do, they don't all have that, and this will be free, publicly available training, including in early care and learning settings, as well as 4k through 12.
- Melissa Jones
Person
So we would hope to see that there are more education professionals and other school serving staff, whether that's the bus driver or the school custodian who's had an opportunity to have that training.
- Melissa Jones
Person
We will also start to see in the 24,25 school year the addition of wellness coaches, which you'll be hearing an update about earlier, but really building out that team of supports and wellness coaches in many ways will be able to function like a near peer services, providing non clinical supports and coaching to our young people.
- Melissa Jones
Person
We've certainly heard from youth that we have engaged with in this work that the first person they want to see when they walk in the door of a wellness center on a school site, to be honest, is not somebody who looks like me, middle aged white woman. That's not who they want to see. They want to see somebody who comes from their community, who understands their experience.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And a wellness coach is a really important way for us to both add to and diversify and create a more representative workforce. And then you also heard earlier from my colleague Ms. Boylan about some of the other work that DHCs is doing in terms of strengthening social emotional learning programs across the state.
- Melissa Jones
Person
So I would hope to see that we would have more effective and more learning from each other social emotional learning programs across the state, and that the new virtual services platform is also another tool for both educators and youth to be connected to, obviously outside of their school hours, but that it's a chance for them to increase their awareness of the tools that are available to them across the system.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Is it possible that a school district or a school just may choose not to do anything?
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Yes, it is possible that the districts and the school sites, on an individual, case by case basis, opt not to participate. There's not a statutory requirement for the schools to participate in the CYBHI schedule.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
However, we are working very closely with all 58 county offices of education district partners to make sure that the schools and the districts are supported in doing this work, that they're appropriately resourced to do this work and that they have the partnerships with the medical managed care plans, commercial health plans, and county behavioral health departments in order to be able to sustain and implement this structure.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
So it's not a mandate, but it is something that our local education agency partners, as well as our college and University partners are keen to make sure that they have resources available to be able to support the service needs of their students. So we're all kind of in it together in terms of why we're showing up and the work that we're doing.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
And so I think it's really just about making sure that the schools are appropriately resourced and supported, that we're thinking about the implementation strategy, that we're partnering with them to do it in the right way. And that's why we are taking our time to phase in the approach work with our local education agencies, make sure that we are implementing it in the right way so that they have the tools and resources that they need in order to be able to opt in for this program.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And I would add to that that, as you heard Ms. Boylan describe earlier, it's not a fixed, inflexible model. I think something we've really heard from our LEA partners is the way in which they want to perhaps increase or expand behavioral health services and supports varies. And some of them, they might want to hire more staff directly through the schools. Some want to do more of that because they have a really robust set of community based organization partners to help deliver the services.
- Melissa Jones
Person
So it doesn't have to be sort of only one way in which they can do that. Ramp up the way the fee schedule will be structured. It will really support schools developing that suite of services that really makes sense for their entity, for their students, for their community, and for their partnership, sort of the ecosystem of their community.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And then the other thing I would mention is that a lot of our discussion with thinking about how do we create a more coordinated approach, say, across education initiatives and CYBHI is that we've certainly heard from partners at the local level in the field that it's very challenging to simultaneously implement islands of initiatives. There's CYBHI, there's Calaimm, there's community schools, there's expanded learning, there's universal pre kindergarten.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And so part of the work that we are trying to do right now with the State Board of Education and California Department of Education and our partners in the field in both education and health is how do we support a more coordinated approach. So rather than feeling like you're implementing completely separate initiatives. Where do they actually come together?
- Melissa Jones
Person
Because they do have a unifying vision and approach of a whole child approach, a very strong focus on equity and making sure that we are really addressing the needs of the most underserved kids and that our goal is for our kids to thrive, for them to be well from a health perspective and be able to learn. So how do we bring that together more?
- Melissa Jones
Person
And I think we're really trying to think about what does the kind of implementation supports look like that will do that, which will hopefully help schools tap into the work of the CYBHI because it will feel connected to the work they are trying to do as a school and an LEA in the first place.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Young people, do you have any wellness centers on your campus?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I don't feel as qualified to talk about this just because I went to private school, but there was not a wellness center. But we had the counseling center that we could go to if we were in a crisis situation or whatnot. Like, I know when I had my eating disorder, my therapist was very, my counselor was very supportive on signing off and making sure that I ate my lunch and things like that.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
So we did have something along the lines of that, but not necessarily a wellness center like we're trying to define today.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Yeah, I'm still a high school senior, so I go to public school in Irvine Unified, and we do luckily have the privilege of having wellness centers. But I think a big issue in my school is the culture between educators, especially Administration and students. A lot of times there's a lot of mistrust between just the adults in school and students because of, like I mentioned before, some school discipline policies that have come up lately.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And since my school is very high performing, very merited kids, obviously they expect us to abide to a lot of those things without realizing that we also have mental health concerns, just ones that we don't voice as much. But I think because of that, a lot of students don't turn to our school to address our mental health needs, and we more so just suppress it ourselves.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
What do you need to do to gain access to the wellness center?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Most of the time we can just walk in, but I know for our counselors, they have a lot more on their plate if we actually want to talk to someone. But our wellness center just has a lot of destressing activities, stress balls and sand and things like that. But if we want some kind of session with our counselors, that would have to be prescheduled.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I've gone to some campuses where you have to earn points to get to a wellness center. Right. We're still using. There are some places where in order to have access to wellness center if it is even staffed full time, which in most cases is just not the case. Right. But you're either sent there because you have some type of behavior issue and they're going to send you there to get some support, or there are certain times where you just can't have access to it.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
You want to say something before I go on my tirade?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I know my community college. The only way you can get access to the wellness center is by another person, whether it's a friend or a teacher or someone else having to refer you over.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So this is my thing. I'm not a total fan of wellness centers. Why? Because if you go there, you most likely will not get a professional to help you at this current state time right now. Or like I said, it is more merit based for lack of a better term. My whole point is this, is that we are not treating the mental health crisis like we treated Covid-19 and that's just a fact. There was no such thing as silos anymore.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
There was no such things as this is the way we do things anymore. We tore absolutely everything down to meet the current need to get people vaccinated. We shut down schools. We had all kinds of things, but we're still trying to fit mental health into current systems instead of transforming the systems itself. And if we know this is a crisis but yet it is still voluntary to provide it, how are we calling this a crisis?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We're not really calling it a crisis. We're ignoring the need. And at the end of the day, it's adding more burden on the public health care system, on taxpayer dollars. In one Kaiser system, I've seen 40 people leave in the last really year and a half because of the burden onto the system.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
You better stop preaching, girl. My whole point is that if the question is, are we serving youth the best that we can, the answer is no, because we are still preserving or still trying to step over landmines instead of save lives. And this is just the way we're trying to accomplish this. Right? And so I would continue to challenge anyone and everyone who will listen because as you know, I'm prone to repeat myself over and over again. That we still got to do better.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
We have got to put our foot down and say, this is a crisis. This is what our young people need. Therefore, everyone get out the way so that we can serve them the way we know we should be serving them. And even if it's from a local perspective and making sure that there's flexibility, because you're right. Different cultures, different things like that, they need a level of flexibility so it fits their areas, rural areas, mountainous areas, there's some level of flexibility that needs to occur.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But the way we're doing it, we're still saying, we'll give you some money, please do this, as opposed to saying we need to do it. Submit your plan, right. So that we can help you to accomplish that. We're still not at the full level yet. And when we have another hearing next year, next budget year, I can almost guarantee you that I'll have to say the exact same thing. If we keep going down the road, we're going right now.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And it hurts me to have to say that. But before I got here to Sacramento, I ran a nonprofit that did restorative practices. And I myself conducted circles. And the worst thing you want is to have conducted circles. And then a year or so later you are told that someone that was in your circle committed suicide, a young person. I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But I guarantee you we might have caught it, if I had the knowledge at the time to do some type of universal screenings or something. So the idea is, and I'm imploring everybody, push the envelope like we did Covid-19 because all of a sudden we found money. All of a sudden there were no sacred cows and all we did was people complained. But hey, we all took it because it was about saving lives. But we continue to.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But we continue to, not because that was a physical ailment, but because this is a behavioral health ailment. We don't take it as seriously or we don't act as aggressively. So again, I ask everyone, please, we've got to do more. We've got to do more. Go ahead.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
You kind of missed a pretty powerful speech earlier, but I meant the formula. You know what? Watch the recording later.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I'm going to watch the recording. Okay.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
There's one word in every statement that you have said that you have missed, and it's youth. Youth need to be involved. And at the table, they're willing, ready and able to. It's weak. If you, as the adults, cannot help us and listen to us, then, yes, you're right. We're going to be here next year and it's going to be the same BS like it is today. So if we don't get more youth involved because it's going to affect us, it's going to affect our kids.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
The old archaic system didn't work. And if we're going to do the same thing, then it's going to continue to not work. So we really need to put youth at the forefront in every decision that's made involving this.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Amen.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
I can't wait to see you in one of these seats one day. My first question is going to be for you, Ms. Polls, if I can just off of what you were stating, we heard that you were co facilitating focus groups regarding the virtual services platforms that I'd love to hear from you what responses you were hearing.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
So since I'm a little bit older in this space, I'm 24, I was co facilitating for both the adults and the youth, kind of providing a middle ground. And so from youth, a big problem with COVID has been the lack of connection, but also feeling like if their parents aren't informed about mental health and the parents are really willing and want to be involved and even if their kid doesn't have mental health issues, just learning about stuff.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And so I think a lot of it has to do with privacy because kids are worried, like how is their data going to get used and what not? But also parents, it's like, well, can I be alerted when my kid says that they want to harm themselves so then I can help get involved in the process.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
So it was a very interesting thing because at the end of the day, kids want to be more face to face and have relationships like that and not just talking to a chat bot online.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Along those lines, there are no silver bullets. And it is in all of the above approach that I'd like to come back to the wellness centers and any suggestions that the youth are making on how we could strengthen them or increase access to them.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I think increased access, like I come from Vallejo and so there, I meant any access is abysmal in the education system. In the know, there is no such thing. But I think having professionals, and I think what is really needed is the peer to peer support because kids feel more comfortable talking to kids and that's how a lot of them are going to get help. And so I do think having the peer to peer education is really what's going to be helpful.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And we never know where that's going to end up leading in terms of like, maybe it makes youth want to get more involved and then maybe then become mental health facilitators themselves. But I think having professionals there and having the resources to at least guide them to continued services, I think is what's needed.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Can we get an update from the Administration? We had heard about the strength of peer to peer from our youth last year that I'd like to understand how we're incorporating that and moving forward.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Sure, I'm happy to provide an update. So one of the initiatives that was funded as part of the 2022 Budget act is the high school peer to peer demonstration pilot project. We are contracting with the children's partnership to roll out the grants for that initiative. They are planning to convene an advisory group of youth to help inform the request for proposals from all of the high schools.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
They will select up to eight high schools over the course of the next two to three years to pilot the peer to peer programs, evaluate the outcomes, and to develop statewide standards for high school peer to peer programming. We are also building in peer programming as part of the virtual services platform based on what we heard from youth over the course of this last year around the virtual services environment.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
And so there will be moderated, safe peer to peer forums where young people can share their stories, encourage each other without replicating the bad things about social media, like likes and dislikes, but giving youth an opportunity to learn from each other and share from each other. And that'll be a part of what we deliver through the digital Behavioral health platform, which will know, and I think to Member Jackson's point earlier about how are we pushing the envelope to do things a little bit differently.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
Creating this opportunity for a state funded digital behavioral health platform where youth can get access to one to one coaching sports with the real person on their phones at any time of the day is something that really does, I think, push that envelope forward.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
And through that, we're also going to be making peer to peer programming available and as well as through evidence based practice grants and school based fee schedule that we really are trying to think about, the opportunities for young people to lead and guide this work through the peer to peer programming in all of these various components of the CYBHI.
- Melissa Jones
Person
Would just add, I know when you hear a little later from the Department of Healthcare and Access and information about the workforce pieces, that one of the components, as you know, in the Medi Cal program is the new peer support specialist benefit and work. And for example, in some of the funding from HKI to increase the training for peer support specialists, they really prioritized young adults.
- Melissa Jones
Person
They even allow 16 and 17 year olds into the program so that when they turn 18 and can actually be eligible to provide the service that they're ready. So there was a strong focus on young adults. So even though it's more of a near peer model but that it has that aspect to it.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And as I mentioned earlier, the wellness coach really has many aspects of that near peer model, trying to increase that kind of support and availability of a workforce that is more representative of our youth as an important part. And I do think the wellness coach is part of our transformational effort. It really is meant to sort of help shift the workforce to address what we are hearing from youth are their needs in terms of better addressing those.
- Melissa Jones
Person
And I think we all working on the CYBHI, and I don't just mean in state government. I mean all of our partners share this sense of urgency and the need for transformation and wrestle with the very questions that Assembly Member Jackson is raising every day about is there any stone we've left unturned? Could we move things faster?
- Melissa Jones
Person
And candidly at the same time, our partners are also saying, don't just take the well worn paths, though, because the well worn paths are the stuff we already know how to do. And if you just do more of that, it's not good enough. So how do we move quickly but do it differently and not just do the same and actually do something that's transformational? And yet, I can tell you, we ask ourselves every day, could we do it faster? Could we do it better?
- Melissa Jones
Person
Could we do it deeper? And so I appreciate sort of the comments around that because I think we are all wrestling and working toward that. So thank you.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
For Director Stafford Jones, you said that Mathematica was going to be convening an outcomes group. How can we ensure that we have youth who are included into those groups and spaces?
- Melissa Jones
Person
Yeah, thanks very much. We've actually been working even before we selected Mathematica through a competitive RFP, we had been conducting a series of focus groups, specifically with youth around the state, as well as communities, families, and our partners with professional experience to inform what should be the five year outcomes goals for the CYBHI. So we've actually gathered quite a bit of input directly from youth already and families in terms of what those outcome schools should be.
- Melissa Jones
Person
So before we even hired Mathematica, we had a draft set of outcome schools, and then we're working with them to refine those. And they have been both meeting with. We have an equity working group for the CybHI. There's a data Committee they've been meeting with to help inform that, particularly from an equity perspective. And then, as I mentioned, we're forming a CYBHI evaluation advisory group that will be made up of youth, parents and families, researchers, frontline clinicians and local systems leaders.
- Melissa Jones
Person
So that group will also be helping to inform the finalization of those outcomes goals.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
I'm going to stick with this theme if I can. You had mentioned a work group associated with coordinating mental Health Student Services act, as well as community schools, and that there were 60 people in the work group. I heard LEAs, CBHDAs medical managed care plans, but again, I didn't hear youth, and I want to be intentional to ask to make sure out of those 60 people that we're having space for the youth as well.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
So the 60 person workgroup is the implementation Partners group for the CYBHI fee schedule specifically. However, we did and continue to engage with youth in a variety of settings to get input on the design of the fee schedule in terms of what services kids want to have accessible on school campuses. We did some listening sessions and focus groups last year.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
We also engaged with a youth advisory board through some of the statewide youth serving organizations such as the California Coalition for Youth and the California Youth Action Network to be able to inform this work that we're doing. And we have Members from those organizations that participate in that work group as well.
- Autumn Boylan
Person
So we're trying to engage youth on all fronts across the board and really have spent some time thinking about how we make sure that we build youth engagement not only into our work groups but also into our contracts in terms of the requirements of our partners and vendors as well. For example, there's a requirement in our virtual services platform contract that there's a youth advisory component to that as well. So really trying to build that in structurally into the work that we're doing.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Final comment, if I can, I'll elevate. I believe both youth spoke about how hard it was for us to access care, and as we're increasing access across the state, we're going to have more and more workforce challenges. And so as the agenda later will discuss workforce proposals, I want us to ground ourselves in the comments that we heard from the youth about making investments into that space as well. With that, I will again appreciate Ms. Lou and Ms. Polls and this entire panel, and we will now move on to issue three.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Issue three on the CYBHI reappropriation included in the spring Finance Letter. Department of Finance will present this proposal. Please begin.
- Nina Hong
Person
Department of Finance Nina Hong within the larger CYBHI initiative, Cal HH's agency was allocated 50 million General Fund over five years in 21,22 to support cross departmental coordination, procure subject matter expertise and acquire technical tools, engage stakeholders and local implementers, and support initiative wide, comprehensive, multiyear evaluation to identify best practices and inform future policy and program work. CalHHS is requesting to reappropriate 8.8 million General Fund from 2122 allocated amounts to be available to expend until June 30, 2025.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
LAO.
- Ryan Miller
Person
Ryan Miller. LAO, we have not raised concerns with this proposal.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais to see if there's any Members questions. Seeing none, I will thank this panel and we will move on to issue four.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Issue four is on the Children's psychiatric residential treatment facilities AB 20317 trailer Bill we have DHCS Director Michelle Boss to present this issue. Welcome and please begin.
- Michelle Boss
Person
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair Members. Michelle Boss, Director of the Department of Healthcare Services AB 20317 was passed in 2022 and establishes the psychiatric residential treatment facilities as a new category of health facilities licensed by the Department. Psychiatric residential treatment Facility is defined as a licensed health facility operated by a public agency or private organization with a provider agreement with a state Medicaid agency.
- Michelle Boss
Person
AB 20317 also requires the Department, in collaboration with stakeholders, to establish regulations and certifications consistent with Medicare and Medicaid regulations to maximize federal participation. The proposed trailer Bill Language is meant to clean up statute governing the psychiatric residential treatment facilities to align with federal law and make other technical changes. The current language is in conflict with federal requirements and puts the Department at risk of losing federal Medicaid dollars due to non compliance.
- Michelle Boss
Person
Additionally, the trailer Bill Language proposes to align the composition and credentials of the interdisciplinary team Members with federal regulations and CMS requirements. Specifically, the current language allows for a registered nurse or a licensed vocational nurse to serve on the interdisciplinary team. However, a licensed vocational nurse does not meet the same educational requirements as an RN. Including an LVN in lieu of a registered nurse would not meet the federal requirements.
- Michelle Boss
Person
Additionally, federal requirements require minimum staffing that includes a master level psychologist that is distinct from California's definition of the mental health professional. The Department provided a walkthrough of this language with legislative leadership, Assembly Member Ramos's office, and other legislative staff.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Our next speaker is Christine Stoner Mertz, Chief Executive Officer of the California Alliance, California alliance of Child and Family Services thank you.
- Christine Stoner-Mertz
Person
Good Afternoon Chair Arambula Members of the Budget Subcommitee Christine Stoner Mertz, CEO of the California Alliance Child and Family Services representing 116 nationally accredited community based organizations providing services to children, youth and families in California. The California alliance was a proud sponsor of Assembly Bill 20317 authored by Assembly Member Ramos. We were seeing the impacts of not having this level of care all around us and continue to see that Medi Cal youth being unnecessarily hospitalized and not receiving life saving ongoing mental health services.
- Christine Stoner-Mertz
Person
Our partners at the California Children's hospitals have alarming data about youth in their emergency rooms and psychiatric crisis, and these are not the right places for many of these youth who could be better served in their communities and in an environment staffed with mental health professionals. AB 20317 fills a life saving gap for youth in crisis and we are grateful, excuse me, to the Administration for all of the support to get this far.
- Christine Stoner-Mertz
Person
We do feel that in order to fulfill the promise of AB 20317 and ensure that there is an interdisciplinary team that reflects the reality of California's medical program, we must look at the changes that are being suggested in TBL. In trailer Bill Language. We must consider who's working within our current specialty mental health system now, which includes master's level clinicians. We have severe workforce shortages and are at a crisis point.
- Christine Stoner-Mertz
Person
By deleting some of the proposed team Members from the original language, including master's level therapists, we believe that our providers will have a very difficult, if not impossible, time standing up any of these programs in California. We believe that with some modest amendments, we will maintain the integrity of these programs, provide high quality services, and be able to staff the programs and stand them up in California.
- Christine Stoner-Mertz
Person
Our recommendations include inclusion of the option for a mental health professional who has a master's or doctorate degree in psychology, marriage and family therapy, social work, or counseling, and who has been licensed, registered, or waived by the state. Inclusion of licensed vocational nurses, in addition to registered nurses include the option for a nurse practitioner as one of the staff and ensure that we're aligning these regulations and Cal aim documentation reform, for example, around the requirement of an individual plan of care.
- Christine Stoner-Mertz
Person
We very much appreciate the Subcommittee's oversight of this issue. We thank Assemblymember Ramos for his authorship of this Bill and continued commitment to children's mental health. We look forward to a positive outcome so that we can stand up children's crisis residential programs
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nate Williams
Person
Nate Williams of Department of Finance just want to agree with the department's assessment that this trailer Bill should be going through the trailer Bill process. It's an appropriate avenue in that it is tied to a budget change proposal as well as it's changing language that could affect federal funding.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
No concerns.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais for any Members questions. Assembly Member Ramos.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And getting to some of the discussion and recommendations, is there an option or is there willingness to look at some of the amendments that have been discussed here to try to maybe add in there the health professional and the different components that are there without jeopardizing federal funding? This whole Bill was set to make sure that definitions were in sync here at the State of California and the Federal Government so we could use that funding for psychiatric residential treatment centers.
- James Ramos
Legislator
And so it was a long process to get to that point. We worked with the Administration on several amendments to try to adapt and to make sure that it did meet all those criteria that was in front of us. We did get it through the Legislature. It wasn't easy, but we got it through, was signed into law.
- James Ramos
Legislator
And now understanding that there could be some components that could jeopardize some of the funding, but is there willingness to look at some of these different classifications of the workforce because of the workforces that are actually available in the State of California versus other states in the nation?
- James Ramos
Legislator
And we would be willing to work with you on some of that language to ensure, as close as we can get to that, to ensure without jeopardizing funding for it, because we do know that this needs to move forward. We did work hard on it. It's attested to the Administration, to the Legislature and the body, both houses. We got it through.
- James Ramos
Legislator
But I think now coming forward within the trailer Bill and setting out the parameters, but now, I guess, is there a willingness to work with my office and some of the recommendations to see if there's a way we could even fine tune it a little bit better?
- Michelle Boss
Person
Yes, of course we're willing to continue to work on this. Our guidepost really is meeting the federal requirements because we do not want to jeopardize the federal dollars. And so also doing an assessment of maybe with some of the other states how they've implemented this, we're willing to kind of engage and continue those discussions.
- Michelle Boss
Person
We did flag this issue back in August for legislative staff that there was some conflict here, but we agreed that we would move the Bill so that we can continue to work on this because there was a lot of effort over the summer months in terms of negotiating on this Bill. So continue to remain committed to engaging on the definition, but do want to flag that. Our guidepost is to ensure that we.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Get FFP and we know that we do need this in the State of California. If I remember right off of memory, there was only two counties that even were able to have any type of services out of 58 counties here in the State of California. So I guess how broad and how narrow is that definition? I think just taking off one of the recommendations here, inclusion of the option for a mental health professional who has a master's or doctorate degree in psychology, just that.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Is there an opportunity within the federal guidelines to be able to add some of that? Or.
- Michelle Boss
Person
I'd be happy to read the federal regulation for you. The team must also include one of the following, a psychiatric social worker, a registered nurse with specialized training or one year's experience in treating mentally ill individuals, an occupational therapist who is licensed, if required by the state and who has specialized training or one year of experience in treating mentally ill individuals, a psychologist who has a master's degree in clinical psychology or who has been certified by the state or by the State Psychological Association.
- Michelle Boss
Person
So that's the federal definition of what must be included in the interdisciplinary team.
- James Ramos
Legislator
And it's a federal definition that blankets all the states in the nation, which some of those in the workforce don't go by some of those categories here in California, that was the whole purpose of the Bill. But we do know that things have to move forward.
- James Ramos
Legislator
So we would try to open as much as we can to some of these different components to ensure that there's a workforce that's part of the infrastructure that could meet the challenge coming forward without having to go back and reestablish different degrees, different areas to move forward with a new workforce that then would delay the whole implementation of it. I think we're all on the same page.
- James Ramos
Legislator
We worked with the Administration, we worked with our sponsors to ensure that there is something moving forward within the psychiatric residential treatment center. And we did do a lot of amendments to try to curb some of these things.
- James Ramos
Legislator
But if we can try to see if there is some of the recommendations that are here without jeopardizing the federal funding, because the only way that I understand it, if we go outside of the federal funding definition, then it would be the State of California that would have to Fund those programs. Is that correct?
- Nate Williams
Person
Yes, that's correct. It would be General Fund.
- James Ramos
Legislator
At this point, we're moving forward on the federal funding, the federal flow through on the money coming forward. All right, well, let's see if we can't get creative and see if there is a way without jeopardizing that. We would definitely be engaged and want to be part of that discussion.
- Michelle Boss
Person
Great, Thank you,.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank very much, panel four, and move on to issue five. The focus of these next two issues is on suicide prevention, beginning with issue five, which is an oversight issue. Our first speaker is Leshon Francis, senior Director of behavioral health with children now. I know. Please begin when you are ready.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Thank you, I think. I'm Lishaun Francis, last time I checked. Thank you, Chair, Members, for having me today. My name is Lishaun Francis. I'm with Children Now. I'm going to spend some time talking to you today about suicidality and its relationship with social media. That's going to be the crux of my comments. But first, let's just level set. Overall, the number of suicides in California have decreased in 2020 in particular.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
But rates of suicides for certain subgroups increased, and I think we can safely correlate that in 2020 because of everything that was happening in the world. That is a large reason why we saw that increase. Specifically, those who were ages with 10 to 18, that subgroup increased. Black and Latinx youth, specifically black youth. Suicide rate has doubled since 2014. So not really since 2020, but since 2014. And then female youth, that group also increased in 2020.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Traditionally, we've actually seen more suicide attempts among female subgroup, but more deaths by suicide among the male youth. And while that trend is generally true, there's been an increase in death by suicide among female youth. As an aside, the use of firearms as a mechanism for suicide increased in 2020. One thing that's not talked about often is the rate of suicidality among our rural youth. Nationally, the rate of suicide among rural youth ages 15 and 19 is 54% higher than that of youth in urban areas.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Given the increase of isolation within the pandemic, we really do need to look more closely at our rural youth and how they're doing since 2020. Suicide related behavior is complicated and rarely the result of a single source of trauma or stress. Youth who are at risk for increased youth who are at increased risk for suicide related behavior are dealing with a complex interaction of multiple relationship, peer, family, or romantic, mental health, and school stressors.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
I want to be clear that while several surveys have examined the relationship between young people in social media as it pertains to their mental health, there isn't enough evidence to state that social media is the cause of suicidality. However, what is clear is that young people are reporting that social media is the main reason their mental health is getting worse, like increasing anxiety and depression.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Research suggests that young people who are heavy users of social media, spending more than 2 hours per day on social networking sites like Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram, are more likely to report poor mental health, including psychological distress like anxiety and depression. Essentially, you've got the FOMO right here. You constantly seeing friends on holiday or enjoying nights out. They are feeling like they're missing out and they're not enjoying life right?
- Lishaun Francis
Person
So that is promoting this compare and despair attitude in young people, and they might be viewing images that are heavily photoshopped and as young folks who are going through changes with their body and with their self esteem, that can really impact them in ways that don't impact adults. Specifically, we're seeing that girls who use social media heavily are two to three times more likely to be depressed.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
One survey that was done in the UK revealed that Instagram is actually the worst social media network for mental health and well being for young adults. While the photo based platform got points for self expression and self identity, it was associated with high levels of anxiety, depression, and bullying.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
What's interesting to me is out of the five social networks that were included in that survey, YouTube actually received the highest marks for health and well being, and it was the only site that received a net positive score by respondents. Twitter came in second, which is my personal favorite, followed by Facebook and then Snapchat and then Instagram dead last. Another indicator related to social media is sleep.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
We know that studies have shown that increased social media use has a significant Association with poor sleep quality in young people. Using social media on phones, laptops and tablets at night before bed has been linked with poor quality of sleep, even more so than regular daytime use of social media. As you know, sleep and mental health are tightly linked. Poor mental health can lead to poor sleep and poor sleep can lead to states of poor mental health.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
And this is particularly important for teens who are going through key stages of brain development at that time. One in five young people in that survey said that they woke up during the night to check messages on social media. I also want to spend a few minutes talking about cyberbullying. This comes up a lot when I talk, people ask me, what's the difference? We got bullied when we were kids and we were fine. Why are we making such a big deal out of cyberbullying?
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Don't kids just need to toughen up? That is my favorite question. The reality is, cyberbullying is actually an easier way to bully because unlike traditional bullying, it doesn't involve face to face interaction. Teens can become desensitized to a computer screen and say or do things they wouldn't do in a person's face. The computer desensitizes teens and decreases the level of empathy they feel toward the victim.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Plus, when they can't see the person's reaction to what they post or text, they may not even know that they've gone too far. Youth who report both bullying others and being bullied bully victims have the highest risk for suicide related behavior of any group that reports involvement in bullying. Negative outcomes of bullying for youth who bully others, youth who are bullied, and youth who are both bullied and bullied.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Others include depression, anxiety, involvement in interpersonal violence, sexual violence, substance abuse, poor social functioning, poor school performance, Low gpas, standardized test scores, and poor attendance in schools. In short, very bad outcomes all around for those participating in bullying. Any involvement with bullying behavior is one stressor that may significantly contribute to the feelings of helplessness and hopelessness that raise the risk of suicide. So then what can we do? There have been a number of policy solutions floated around that we should all really explore.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
So to be clear, a lot of these solutions aren't live, meaning we haven't tried them. But things that have been discussed was introducing things like a pop up, heavy usage warning on social media. Like, we're warning you that you've been using social media today for more than 3 hours. Maybe it's time to give yourself a break.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Another thing could be when the social media platforms can highlight when photos have been photoshopped or digitally manipulated so people know, zero, she does not have the perfect body and you're just fine. And then, honestly, safe use of social media should be taught in schools. That's something that's largely been missing in our public school education program. And then my personal favorite, really doing more research to understand the effects of social media on young people's mental health. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we have Shari Sinweski, Vice President of Crisis Care at Didihirsch Mental Health Services.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Good afternoon, chair, Rambula and Members of the Committee. I'm Shari Sinweski, VP of Crisis care at Didihirsch. Didihirsch Mental Health Services is a pioneer in suicide prevention and crisis care for all ages and home to the nation's first and largest suicide prevention center. We were proud to be selected by the Department of Healthcare Services to be the statewide leader for the 12988 crisis centers across California.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
As it was said, suicide is a complex public health issue that is not usually the result of one factor. Stressors such as relationships, jobs, school or financial issues, as well as factors such as mental illness, substance use, social isolation, historical trauma, inequities in health care, and easy access to lethal means of suicide can all contribute to increased risk. The bottom line is that suicide impacts everyone.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
In fact, almost inevitably, when someone speaks to me about the work that I do, they tell me a personal story about how suicide has impacted them. Last week, the CDC released data highlighting that the overall suicide rate in the United States increased by 4.7% in 2021 from 2020. It also showed increased rates of suicide among various populations, specifically youth, communities of color, and Native Americans.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
And while the overall suicide rate in California only rose slightly, trends among youth, communities of color, and Native Americans are similar in California to those seen nationally. What is more important to remember when talking about trends is that each one of these numbers is a human being, a loved one that mattered. We must continue to work together to help people create lives that are worth living. We must work together to reduce the loss of life and those left behind to grieve.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Suicide prevention is a mental health concern. Suicide prevention is a public health concern. Suicide prevention is an educational concern. Suicide prevention is everyone's concern because anyone can be impacted by suicide. Don't we all want a California where people live thriving, fulfilling lives? Suicide prevention is everyone's business and should be a concern for every californian. Didihirsch recommends the following things that can be done to help involve all Californians in suicide prevention. Educate the media on best practices when reporting on suicide.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
This includes not glamorizing stories of suicide, sharing resources, and sharing stories of hope and healing. The papagino effect shows that exposure to positive examples of people who have overcome suicidal thoughts or crises can prevent or reduced suicide. Attempts in vulnerable individuals. Continue to dedicate funding for prevention and early intervention. The Office of the California Surgeon General has focused our attention on adverse childhood experiences and their impact over the lifespan. According to the CDC, having any adverse childhood experience is associated with an increased risk for suicide.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
The odds of ever attempting suicide are 30 times higher for adults with four or more adverse childhood experiences compared to adults with none. Continue to Fund mental health curriculums in schools for both students and staff. Young people need to be just as comfortable communicating when they are in emotional distress as when they are experiencing a physical ailment. Adults need to know how to respond to these concerns as easily as they would to symptoms of a common cold.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Everyone needs to be better able to listen when someone is in distress. We talked about screening earlier, which of course, I'm a proponent of. But we have to be careful with screening as well. As we heard earlier, sometimes people just say no because they're afraid of the impact of answering screening questions. So we really need to allow people to feel comfortable to talk about how they're feeling.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Parity with physical health care and mental health care, not just in reimbursement rates, which are important, but in timely access to care when needed, including the expansion of the 988 crisis care continuum and ensuring that all suicide prevention resources are created with a focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion so that everyone has access to support in a way in which they need it.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
We are excited about the creation and existence of a statewide office of suicide Prevention housed within the California Department of Public Health. We would encourage our state leaders to make sure it becomes a focal hub for coordinating suicide prevention efforts in our state.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
While still in its infancy, we hope to see the Office of Suicide Prevention take a leadership role to help coordinate similar networks across the state, bringing us together to discuss best practices, gather resources, and ensure that California continues to be a leader in this space. And we thank Assembly Member Ramos for authoring AB 2112 creating the Office of Suicide Prevention. We very much appreciate the Subcommittee's oversight of this issue and are grateful for your commitment to suicide prevention.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Thank you for the opportunity to speak for you today, and I'm happy to answer questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Next we will hear from Dr. Tara Niendam, Professor of psychiatry, Executive Director at UC Davis Early Psychosis Program.
- Tara Niendam
Person
Okay, thank you all so much for your time today. So, as you may have heard, I represent one of the many early psychosis programs that exist in California that are funded through a variety of funding streams, including the MHSA, mostly PI Dollars, the Sampson mental health block grant dollars, as well as Medi Cal dollars. My Sac county program serves youth and young adults in the earliest stages of psychotic illness.
- Tara Niendam
Person
As we've heard so eloquently put today, individuals with mental health challenges are at high risk for suicidal ideation and behavior. But for individuals with early psychosis, the risk is even higher, particularly in the first one to two years after onset of illness. So in that space, in that brief time period, about one in four will endorse ideation and one in 10 will make an attempt. And so they either pass away or have significant injuries as a consequence.
- Tara Niendam
Person
We've been collecting data from early psychosis programs across the state as part of our collaborative outcomes, and 42% of individuals at intake report some form of ideation. So I want to highlight this as a particularly high risk group, and California's early psychosis programs are playing a really critical role in reducing suicidal ideation and behavior. We train our programs to use evidence based practices to provide a very thorough assessment.
- Tara Niendam
Person
We do suicide screening, and then we implement evidence based practices to manage risk so that we can support our clients and loved ones to stay in the community and reduce costly and traumatizing hospitalizations. So I really just wanted to take the time today to highlight the role that evidence based practices can play in reducing suicide in our communities and how our growing availability of early psychosis programs help to reduce this in a particularly high risk and vulnerable group. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Next we will hear from Sarah Mann, violent injury policy and program secretary chief with the Center for Healthy Communities.
- Sarah Mann
Person
Good afternoon. Thanks for having me. Hi, my name is Sarah Mann and I serve as chief of the Office of Suicide Prevention, or OSP. The OSP is housed within CDPH's Center for Healthy Communities and is integrated into the organizational structure of the Injury and Violence Prevention Branch to maximize resources and leverage program and research expertise in the prevention of all forms of violence, including suicide, from a public health perspective. Oversight of the OSP is provided by the center's Deputy Director and assistant Deputy Director.
- Sarah Mann
Person
The OSP conducts activities that are guided by California's strategic plan for suicide Prevention, striving for zero, and other recommended actions from the Centers for Disease control and prevention. So a few key highlights the OSP has produced and released several suicide and self harm data, resources and reports, which can be found on CDPH's website under the Suicide Prevention program.
- Sarah Mann
Person
Recently published resources include social media shareables that raise awareness around suicide and suicide prevention, suicide trends in 2020 data brief with an accompanying PowerPoint slide deck with additional charts and graphs veteran suicide in 2020 data brief, older adult suicide in 2019 fact sheet and the California Violent Death Reporting system, also referred to as Calvary DRS fact sheet and infographic on suicide in California.
- Sarah Mann
Person
Additionally, the OSP has distributed approximately 4500 lockboxes to reduce access to lethal means from things like firearms and medications to 10 local health and behavioral health departments in counties with higher rates of suicide and self harm. OSP has also distributed 38,000 mental health thrival kits to schools throughout the state, as well as local health and behavioral health departments in counties with higher rates of suicide and self harm.
- Sarah Mann
Person
These kits can be used to celebrate wellness and promote positive coping skills for youth with easy to follow activities to enhance basic skills for social emotional wellness. Additionally, the OSP has sponsored 4 zero suicide Institute informational webinars for local health departments, behavioral health departments, school based health centers, providers, clinical supervisors, staff with quality improvement assurance roles, peer support staff, and others who work in the healthcare field and are interested in learning about how to prevent suicide within that context.
- Sarah Mann
Person
Additionally, the OSP is also administering two new youth suicide prevention projects as part of Cal HHS's sponsored Children and Youth Behavioral Health Initiative. I can give a brief update on those two projects as well our youth Suicide prevention media and outreach campaign. The OSP is implementing a targeted and community based youth suicide media campaign for youth at increased risk. In addition to the media campaign, grants will be provided to youth serving community based organizations to promote campaign messages and conduct outreach.
- Sarah Mann
Person
The media campaign will be launched in the fall of 2023. The process for community based organizations to apply for funds has already begun. Approximately 30 to 50 youth serving CBO's will receive two year grants ranging from 150,000 to 250,000 per year. Additionally, the University of California at Los Angeles will serve as an independent evaluator for the project. The second project, the Youth Suicide Reporting and Crisis Response pilot program.
- Sarah Mann
Person
The OSP is also administering or implementing this pilot to develop and test models for rapidly reporting youth suicides and suicide attempts that will trigger local level crisis response and resource connections involving schools, community based organizations, and other partners. The OSP has selected 10 local public health and or behavioral health departments to participate in the pilot program. Pilot counties will begin implementing the program in July of 2023.
- Sarah Mann
Person
Counties will receive in depth training and technical assistance and similarly to the media and outreach campaign, UCLA has been identified to serve as an independent evaluator for the program. Thank you for allowing me the time to share these updates and I look forward to your questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we will hear from Martha Dominguez, who is the health program manager at. The CDPH Office of Health Equity
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Good afternoon, [Spanish] .
- Martha Dominguez
Person
I'm here the Office of Health Equity our campaign is actually under the Children and Youth Behavior Health Initiative and the goal of the campaign is really to develop, implement and evaluate public education and change campaign that is co designed for and by youth to advance equity and race behavioral health literacy for children, youth caregivers and their communities in California and provide public health education campaigns to five priority populations such as Black and African American, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian Pacific Islander, and the LGBTQ plus community, while also considering unique needs of the transitional age youth, persons with disability, justice involved youth, foster care youth, and those living in rural areas.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
We have three objectives under this campaign. The first one is really to create awareness without stigma around mental, emotional and behavioral health, including substance abuse disorder and wellness. Our second objective is really to partner with CBO's across California to develop culturally linguistic and age appropriate campaigns aimed to reduce stigma and discrimination. Our third objective is to partner with the communities such as the children, the youth, the caregivers, families, communities to codesign reflect on culturally linguistic and age appropriate products, tactics and approaches.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
In this process, we're also developing a multifaceted approach that really includes macro and micro campaigns throughout California. Everything from state to local will be multicultural and multilingual regarding the key languages to reach our key communities that I've already listed. We've also have highlighted that our development will happen in three phases, the development, implementation and evaluation.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
The development actually started last year with us talking to communities across California where then talking and giving us feedback on how the process should be improved, not just the business practice, but also the development and implementation. We were very eager to hear from the community, but also take some learnings from our previous experiences to make the improvements now in this process. So we have applied that and we'll continue to do that.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
We also develop a braintrust, which is a group of subject matter experts that are across California, the nation and even international. The braintrust will be our Advisory Committee that will keep us intact in making sure that we are best applying all best practices, as our colleague has shared, but also community based approaches, but ensuring that we continue to have the voices of the community, both families and youth. We will also have a formative research we've developed a multicultural formative research model.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
We have already entered a contract with the contractor that will help us collect the data to talk to children, youth, and families across California. And then we'll be also entering into a media consulting contract as well to do the macro level campaign and also contracting with CBOs across California to do the micro media campaigns. And that will all be considered part of our implementation.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
The implementation also will detail the evaluation kickoff because we will have a baseline data that will help us measure and track all the components and tactics that we do across for the campaign and multiple languages as well. And we'll also use that data to do any quality improvement. And then obviously the evaluation will assess the tracking of the waves of our efforts throughout the campaign and the duration.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
But we'll also have an interrupted time series analysis of the resources and services that Californians need. And that will allow us to ensure that we're providing the press approaches, but also related to cultural, health and community best practices. We'll have a process and outcome evaluation and then we'll have a thorough report that will outline all of our efforts throughout. I also wanted to give you an update in terms of our budget and how we're spending our dollars.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
So through 2024, we have already planning to allocate $33 million for our macro campaign and then $15 million will be for the micromedia campaigns. $5 million is going to our formative evaluation research budget and then 2 million for our administrative personnel budget. Through 2026, we'll have an additional $5 million spending for Administration and personnel budget and then we'll add another 20 million for our macro campaign and another 20 million for our micromedia campaigns.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
Overall, what we wanted to underscore is that we're making sure that culture is part of health, but also community is part of health. And we want to make sure that.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
And we are very confident that with our best practices and our subject matter expertise, we'll be able to increase mental, emotional, and behavioral health, and substance disorder education and awareness, but also partner with caregivers and families to ensure that they have the proper resources and services and co design all of our elements, culturally and linguistically to ensure all messages are saturated across Californians.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. I may ask to clear the chairs for now, and we'll bring you back for questions if we can. Next, we have Director Boss, followed by JC Cooper, followed by Toby Ewing.
- Michelle Boss
Person
It will just be me for DHCS. She'll be up here in a minute. As outlined in the Committee agenda, California has significantly invested in initiatives to respond to suicide and suicide prevention efforts. I'll briefly highlight a few. A few of them have already been discussed in prior items, so I'll just quickly highlight as part of the 2022 Budget act, the Legislature authorized additional funding to address urgent and emergent issues for children and youth and families. Ms. Boylan just discussed that.
- Michelle Boss
Person
I just want to highlight as part of that it will include social media, healthy use of social media technology just in response to some of the previous conversations on this item. So that will be part of that piece there. Additionally would note that we are taking advantage of enhanced federal funding opportunity for mobile crisis. We implemented that benefit and that's an integral part to response with regarding community based care and needs.
- Michelle Boss
Person
We've submitted the state plan amendment to CMS and issued guidance describing the minimum requirements for this new service, including the federal requirement that mobile crisis services be available for 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and 365 days a year.
- Michelle Boss
Person
The earliest possible date for counties to implement this benefit was this past January, and all counties must implement by December 312023 except for 11 small rural counties where we are still working on some of the key rate pieces and finalizing rates for our rural counties because there are unique considerations for them. Counties will undergo a readiness process to ensure they meet state and federal requirements, and the Department is providing extensive technical assistance to support implementation.
- Michelle Boss
Person
I will also note as part of our behavioral Health Continuum Infrastructure program, the first round of grant funding, we awarded 163,000,000 to 49 cities and counties and tribal entities to Fund 245 new enhanced mobile crisis response teams. And then finally, just a brief update on Cal Hope, which Ms. Boylan referenced as well. Today, as of January 23, we provided approximately 1.3 million individuals in California who have actively addressed received services through Cal Hope.
- Michelle Boss
Person
So that's kind of in response to crisis or wanting to have an opportunity to chat with somebody. So I would note that as well. And then lastly, as part of our California Behavioral health community based Continuum Waiver proposal, which we are kind of one of the proposals in the budget, we have added coordinated specialty care first episode psychosis as an optional benefit for counties to opt into. So that is also part of that proposal. Happy to answer any questions.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Toby Ewing thank you, Mr. Chair. And Members, in terms of some of the suicide prevention work as outlined in the materials for the hearing today, the Commission played a key role in partnership with this Subcommitee in really drafting a suicide prevention plan. And thank you Senator Ramos for your leadership in helping to really push for the Office of Suicide Prevention to be reestablished within the Department of Public Health.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Along the way, and particularly in the context of COVID resources and some of the funding that we were able to free up in response to the pandemic, we not only working with the Department of Public Health to really launch that office and support them and transition some of our work to them, but we were able to provide some resources for trainings within school districts, within county behavioral health departments.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Some of those trainings are around strengthening local suicide prevention strategies, really bringing internationally recognized experts to make them available to local agencies so that they could understand best practices, but also recognizing what we've referred to as postvention, how communities respond when there is an attempt or a loss of life associated with suicide. We've been trying to play a supportive role with the Department and agency around the rollout of 988.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We did a convening with OES and agency to really talk about what's working, where there are challenges, the work that has to get done on 988, particularly recognizing that it's going to take not just California but the nation some time, some years to really design a 988 system. Took us a long time to learn how to get 911 working. It's going to take us a while to learn, and so we're trying to create space and resources for that.
- Toby Ewing
Person
What we're really trying to do is transition a lot of the very specific work that the Commission has done in the past around suicide prevention over to the Administration in ways that make sense given their improved capacity, greater capacity to do that work effectively, but also recognize where we think we can have a key role in an ongoing way, particularly around data reporting and analysis. Part of that oversight is to really understand what's working and what's not working.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Continuing to focus on youth and community empowerment, veterans, in addition to youth, native populations specifically, and really understand how we can support their ability to elevate their voices so that those voices are part of the conversations that are happening not just at the State of California, at the state level, but more locally where so much on the ground work is happening, a lot of stigma reduction.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so part of our effort with Ken Burns, the world famous documentary, is to elevate stories of survival and trauma and grief so that we can reduce the know. My own family, Lishaun says. Someone mentioned every time there's the Didihirsch speaker said, every time someone tells a story and my own family we talk openly about people who die in our family due to cancer or pneumonia, but we've had two suicide losses and nobody will talk about it.
- Toby Ewing
Person
So stigma reduction will continue to be something that we hope the Commission will focus on in terms of making it easier for people to put this out there and to share our stories so that we can engage as freely about what's happening in our mental health space as we do about healthcare. Right. We've got this tremendous willingness to share our stories around cancer. And being a cancer survivor, there's still a tremendous shame and stigma around mental health in suicide in particular.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And lastly, I would say innovation is the space that the Commission hopes to preserve and continue to push because that is a funding stream that has this mandate for recognizing that we can do better and we must try to do better. On a continuous know our, in the slide deck that we passed out, I listed some accomplishments that we've had over the last few years around suicide prevention.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance. LAO?
- Toby Ewing
Person
Most of that work will begin to end as the funds that were one time and were available are fully exhausted. But we hope to continue to work with the Department of Health Care Services, with the Office of Suicide Prevention at CDPH. But in those areas that I mentioned, data stigma, information, innovation, continue to push on this as a key area of concern for the State of California and the Commission.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Nothing to add, but we're available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll bring it up to the dais. We'll begin with Assembly Member Ramos.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for the work that's being put in to the office of Suicide Prevention and all the different material that was discussed. Part of the Bill also talked about ensuring that we were getting resources to the demographics that drastically need it. At that time, it was our youth, and Native Americans, LGBTQ and veterans.
- James Ramos
Legislator
So are we assuring that the resources that now we're moving forward in these different programs are reaching those that are most vulnerable, that drastically need the resources in a timely manner?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Yes. So for our two youth suicide prevention projects, we are focusing on youth disproportionately impacted. So we are looking at youth who are black, youth who identifies Latinx, Latino, youth who are American Indian, Alaska native, and also how that youth who identifies those priority populations also may identify as LGBTQ, plus involvement in the foster care system, a history of mental health conditions, et cetera. So, yes, that is the priority for those projects so that we can reach those youth disproportionately impacted.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you for that. And that was a big component of making sure we're getting resources to the areas that are needed. And so it's great to see that that's happening. But also around the stigma, the stigma of mental health. I know there was talking about some type of outreach that would start to deal with the stigma that's out there also.
- James Ramos
Legislator
So are we moving forward in that, on a campaign that way also to break down that stigma so that people could come and get support services that then could tell their survivor stories?
- James Ramos
Legislator
I mean, in the community, we talk about how mental health services growing up on the Indian reservation, those that would go in to get dental, those that would go in to get medical, and then those that would go to the office to get counseling, those that went to those areas ended up having some type of chatter about them moving on that then broke them down not to go out and seek any more support services.
- James Ramos
Legislator
We have to get to a point to where here in the State of California, if not the nation, if not the world, that we break down that stigma, that those that are seeking mental health resources, that it's something that's acceptable by our community. So are we also tackling that issue.
- James Ramos
Legislator
On the forefront in regards to the public education campaign? That is the intention of the micromedia campaigns, for lack of a better word, you may recognize guerrilla marketing.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
So it's similar approach where we can go down to the communities and they can develop really creative innovation or tactics or approaches that allows them to reach the community, go to a grocery store or go to, maybe it's a trusted messenger within their community that can talk to them and make those proper referrals or even just have the conversation.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
We do know that with stigma, just communities, especially within the black, Latino, and Native American communities, and even Asian Pacific Islanders, the five priorities that I mentioned earlier, they need to discuss it, they need to talk about it. So we want to make sure that we can empower, build that self efficacy so communities can do that and then get really creative in ways that they can do it.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
Whether we build that self efficacy with a mom's and pop store or a laundry mat, there's different ways for us to get really creative. And the micro media approach really would allow us to do that. And then the macro campaigns that will be sort of at the higher level will continue to support that. It really is a multifaceted approach because we can't just do one remedy or one formula to reach the community. So we do want to be creative.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Is the campaign partnering with the areas that are most vulnerable in getting the different resources too? So then the resource that's going into this population demographics. We have an also stigma, anti stigma campaign also tackling the same demographics.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
Yes, that's the intention. And that's part of the call to action that we'll have to bundle and we'll need to prioritize all those different resources, whether if it's a hotline or different key communities, wellness centers or a Doctor, a [Spanish], whatever that may look like. That's why I can't give you sort of a blanket answer, because it's going to look very different for a Latino community as opposed to a native community, Native Americans. And you know this better than I do.
- Martha Dominguez
Person
You guys do a lot of community media or different powwows where they come together. The Latinos, they rely on the [Spanish] and the peer to peer conversation. So we want to make sure that we can build a structure that allows for that and continues to allows us to be creative throughout the duration of the campaign. Therefore, the monies will go to those most vulnerable areas and those partners that can really allow us to be that community broker or that trusted messenger within those areas.
- James Ramos
Legislator
Well, thank you for that. And as always, our office is here to assist you in outreach in any way that we can. Looking forward to seeing these resources get into the community of the most vulnerable that are out there. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll bring it up to the chair if I can. I'm going to begin in part because of what Didihirsch said and also because of what Toby Ewing called out and the courage that was shown by Ms. Polls earlier, as well as by a young student, Alyssa, when we announced the children's and Youth Behavioral Health Initiative. But we must start with stigma reduction and acknowledging what's happened in our own families.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I say this to share that my maternal grandmother committed suicide when my mom was seven. And that effect on our family and trauma is one of the major reasons why I am so focused on making sure that we provide supportive services to community Members as well. And it's important for us to make sure that it's not anyone else, but it's all of us. And it will take all of us to be able to solve this level of problem.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
So I want to appreciate the testimony from so many of the panelists, but it will take us as well to make sure that we're reducing stigma. We'll take a moment to call up Miss Francis, if I can. Now you touched on a nerve and you didn't even know it.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Oh boy.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll start by. I got three young girls.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Yeah.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
And 7,10, and 11. And I'm really focused on the impact that social media has on their developing brains. And so when you're telling me that girls are two or three times more depressed when they use social media, are there any recommendations on if they should be using social media? Are there ages that we should be discouraging use of social media? I would love you to comment on it.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Yeah. So I'm not a physician, so I'll say that first and foremost, there hasn't been a lot of research about how young is too young to be frank. I think people have made assumptions and, you know, social media, their own platforms say that you have to be, I think, 14 before you even go on Instagram or Facebook. I think that is probably more of a suggestion as opposed to an academic stance or a medical stance on how young is too young.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
But I do know that what you're seeing, particularly with girls, is a compounding of what's happening in society about body image issues. Right. That's not unique to social media. Girls are feeling that because socially, on their television screens, even as well as on their phones, they are getting these messages that might not also align with how they're feeling. What was interesting to me, though, were the young people who were reporting that they were feeling social connectedness through the use of social media.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
So people who might have trouble getting friends face to face or making friends face to face, they were finding community online. So I think that's a hard question to really answer. I think what's been happening is families are trying to figure out what works best for their individual circumstances. If they have a child who hasn't been making friends at school and have been making friends online, they've been letting the use continue.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'm going to be careful because you mentioned in your testimony there's not causality. And yet what we're hearing from the young people is that it is social media that I'd like to understand. What type of research would we need to do to understand causality?
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Yeah. So this one's a hard, because the causality is really in reference to suicidality, not depression. Right. So we know that they are depressed with the use of social media. Right. They're already reporting that. The suicidality piece is probably much more of a long term longitudinal study to see what we're looking at as young people have been using social media over time, how many hours, et cetera.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
I also don't want to say that the absence of evidence means that we can suddenly prove that this exists, but the speculation has been the high use of social media means it leads to depression, which means it leads to suicide. But the reality is suicide is a little bit more complex than that. It's not a one to one relationship. So what you're seeing is that young people have a bunch of other things going on in addition to feeling sad about social media.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
So it's not just social media. It's also their peer relationships, their parent relationships, their romantic relationships, what's happening academically. So these are compounding issues. And social media is the one thing that we can point to that is new and different in the last 20 years than how I was raised or how you were raised.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I don't even want to start to think about it, but I'm sure most children might consider placing a different age in if that increased the likelihood that they could participate in an app that they wanted to participate in.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Oh they do.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Are there states that have creative ways to ensure that we are able to create those limits?
- Lishaun Francis
Person
We haven't seen that nationally as yet, but they do. I have nieces and nephews. That is exactly what they're doing. They're lying about their age to get on Instagram and to get on Facebook. That is a fact. And we don't really know. I mean, oftentimes I know parents don't know that their kids are on social media because they have spoof accounts and they have accounts that aren't in their name that they're using. So this is a very hard thing to monitor.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
They're not signing up as their own name because their mom and dad are also using Instagram. So that's a difficult thing to track.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll follow up, and I may do this offline with the office of Suicide Prevention, but I'd like to understand what other states are doing that's innovative in this space. We'll just elevate. We don't try out medications on people and then see their effect. And yet it seems that we're trying out many of the apps or social media and finding the effect within our children that keeps many of us parents up late at night. I don't believe my kids have been on social media because they don't have phones yet.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Right.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I hear about that every day. Right. And I think it's important for us to make sure we're doing all we can to be as cautious and protective as they appropriately develop and start to have confidence in themselves. So I'll hit pause on that, but just really appreciate this entire panel, and we will now move on to issue. Six.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Provisional language we have Kimberly Chan, assistant secretary with program and fiscal affairs with California Health and Human Services Agency to present this issue. Welcome and please begin.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
Mr. Chair. Good evening. Kimberly Chan, assistant secretary for program and fiscal affairs at CalHHS. As folks know, federal law has designated 988 as the new three digit number for the National Suicide Prevention and Mental Health crisis hotline. To adequately and sustainably Fund the 988 system, federal law authorizes states to impose a fee on access lines for providing 988 related services.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
Assembly Member Bauer-Kahan's Bill AB 988 of last year was signed by the Governor does just that to support the broader implementation of the 988 suicide and crisis prevention line. The Governor signed the Bill with a signing message instructing the Administration to propose additional cleanup language in the governor's '23, '24 Governor's Budget. So today you have that BCP and trailer Bill in front of you, which combines the trailer Bill and the BCP for CalHHS, DHCs and DMHC.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
At this time, I can go through the BCP and trailer Bill in detail, or I can jump to the stakeholder concerns. Yes, I'm seeing head nods to stakeholder concerns. Wonderful. Okay, great.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
So I will just say that we did have a chance to meet with stakeholders last Tuesday to discuss the trailer Bill in detail. We discussed just about every single item on the concerns list, and I feel, and folks can speak for themselves here, that we are on the right path to helping to get to a resolution on most, if not all of these pieces. And we did receive from the stakeholders in coordination with Assembly Member Bauer-Kahan revised language. And so we just got that this morning.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
We haven't had a chance to review all of it yet, but we are pleased to have a dialogue going on that. And then finally to the other point I think I noted earlier, we are proposing this as trailer Bill Language because it was in the Governor signing message asking us to please propose trailer Bill Language for cleanup. Just broadly speaking, on the stakeholder concerns.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
First off, our trailer Bill Language is meant to promote more efficient use of staff time and resources, and in no way is trying to remove legislative oversight. We have quarterly implementation meetings both from the CalHHS side and Cal OES, along with a five year implementation plan. So we're happy to continue to provide updates. Just really wanting to prioritize our staff resources and time.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
In reference to the second point on mobile crisis teams, we wanted to make sure that we're providing as much flexibility in this Bill as possible. Not every single call to 988 is going to require a mobile crisis response. Perhaps it's just as it is today, a person on the line providing additional counseling. Perhaps down the line we're able to do really innovative things like connecting to a provider and network. Right. It may not require mobile crisis in person. And so that's the key point.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
We're not trying to remove mobile crisis teams. We're really trying to broaden it so that it compasses a range of behavioral health services a particular individual might need. To the next point, I think the key point to note here is that we believe that it is premature to be so prescriptive to the language on what recipients of funds will have to report. We may not have all this information right now.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
In fact, we have proposals in other spaces to try to get to that level of detail. That is a point that we are talking through with the stakeholders to see if we can land on a sweet spot on that. But the key piece is that we just don't have that level of data and detail at this point to be so prescriptive in statute. And lastly, on the last point, regarding insurance protections broadly, we believe our proposed language is actually much stronger than existing law
- Kimberly Chen
Person
and in federal law, there are, of course, nuances to the federal no surprises act, and we are happy to work with stakeholders to work through how to balance that federal law and our state law. We do have staff here from Department of Healthcare Services and Department of Managed Healthcare to answer any of your questions you might have on the BCP or trailer Bill. So I'll just end it there and pass it on to the other speakers on this panel.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we will hear from Tara Gamboa Eastman, senior advocate with the Steinberg Institute.
- Tara Gamboa-Eastman
Person
Hello Chair, Tara Gamboa Eastman with the Steinberg Institute. We were the proud co sponsors of AB 988 last year with the Kennedy Forum, as well as others, and just want to take a moment to acknowledge the Committee for all of your tremendous work to implement this as well as the Administration. You guys have so much on your plate, and we're just incredibly grateful for the hard work that you're doing and for the ongoing conversations around the trailer.
- Tara Gamboa-Eastman
Person
bill language we also feel very positive about the direction of the conversation and think that we can find mutually agreeable language. I think on both the issues of legislative oversight and the planning around mobile crisis teams, it's just an issue of specificity. I think we have faith in the work that the Administration is doing and just want to make sure that the goals are clear while allowing them the needed flexibility. On the issues related to the fee, we are concerned about removing critical guardrails here.
- Tara Gamboa-Eastman
Person
First, the language as proposed removes language that would prevent the 988 fee revenue from being used for any other purpose or moved into another Fund. This is an incredibly serious concern given the history of 911 fee diversion across the nation. California has been a leader at preventing that on the 911 side, and we want to ensure we continue to be leaders on that front.
- Tara Gamboa-Eastman
Person
Additionally, while we understand that there may be existing data concerns that we need to address, we're worried that if we're not requiring Fund recipients to report, if they've billed insurance companies, and if they've received reimbursement, we may have a misuse of taxpayer money and also may not be using our resources most effectively or have the information to fix that.
- Tara Gamboa-Eastman
Person
The language also deletes reporting requirements around system performance metrics, and we want to make sure that we're consistently improving the system for the callers. On the issues around insurance, yes, the issues with the No Surprises act are quite nuanced from our perspective. The language as written in the Health and Safety Code would both narrow existing law and conflict with federal law. The federal No Surprises act requires coverage of certain post stabilization services without prior authorization or regard for network provider status.
- Tara Gamboa-Eastman
Person
We believe that California should ensure the protections in place under state law are not less than those under federal law. The definition of behavioral health crisis services should also align with the broader federal definition in order to ensure the state is not unnecessarily limiting the scope of services and benefits protected under federal law. We're also concerned about narrowing existing state law, namely SB 855, which requires that all medically necessary behavioral health treatment be covered.
- Tara Gamboa-Eastman
Person
The trailer Bill Language sets Medical services as a ceiling, reducing the commercial coverage requirements in place under SB 855. We propose maintaining existing requirements while clarifying that these requirements include, at minimum, the services covered by medical. We do enjoy or are excited about many of the protections included in the health and safety Code, namely mandating payments for services rendered. But we are concerned about the limitations as currently written. We do feel incredibly optimistic about where we're headed and look forward to working with the Committee. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we will hear from Shari Sinwelski with Didihirsch.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Thank you, Chair. First, before I start my prepared remarks, I just wanted to first offer my condolences for the loss of your grandmother. I'm sorry you never got to meet her, and I thank you for sharing that personal story. I also want to just recognize anybody here in the room who's lost someone to suicide, because my guess is probably most people have.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
And also to the people in the room who have had their own thoughts of suicide or their own suicide attempt, I hope that the work that we're doing today is creating a community where they're more willing and able to reach out for help. We know that one in 20 people have had thoughts of suicide, and I know that 988 is an opportunity for people who have not been comfortable in asking for help are doing that now.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
And so I just wanted to acknowledge that I'm still Shari Sinwelski, I'm still with Didihirsch, and we are still the lead in the state for our 988 implementation, and we're honored to work collaboratively with the 11 other California 988 crisis centers. California centers have long influenced best practices and led innovations in hotline operations.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
SAMHSA's leadership consistently commends the performance of California with its rollout of 988, and points to the work in the state as a shining example of 988 implementation in the nation. On average, California's 988 crisis centers respond to more contacts than any other state per month, responding to over 260,000 calls, chats, and text annually 24/7.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
The 988 suicide and crisis lifeline is not a new service, but it's an easy to remember number to reach the network of crisis centers that have been providing services as the national suicide prevention lifeline for years. Previous SAMHSA evaluations have found that seriously suicidal individuals call the lifeline and that there have been significant decreases in callers reports of intent to die, hopelessness, and psychological pain after speaking to a lifeline counselor.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
All 988 crisis centers are aligned with lifeline evaluated best practices, including the suicide safety policy that requires that all centers practice active engagement with the goal to establish rapport and collaborate with individuals to secure their own safety, utilizing the least invasive intervention, and only using emergency interventions as a last resort. California 988 crisis centers do an outstanding job at achieving this goal. Approximately 96% of contacts are resolved by crisis counselors on the contact and do not require further intervention.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Since launching 988 in July 2022, total instate contacts answered have increased by 22%. Young people under 24 have accounted for nearly 40% of total contacts. Individuals reaching out about someone they were concerned about have increased by over 150%. Help seekers were 54% female, 43% male, and 3% transgender, nonbinary or other gender. 58% of contacts came from black, indigenous, and people of color, as well as those identifying with multiple races or other races.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
The 12 California crisis centers are working to make 988 a trusted resource for all Californians. There's currently a press one option for veterans, a press two option for Spanish speaking individuals, as well as translation services for other languages, a press three option for LGBTQ plus help seekers. Additionally, Didihirsch has recently convened two statewide 988 tribal summits in collaboration with Assembly Member Ramos to address specific cultural considerations to make 988 a trusted resource for California's native communities.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Without question, 988 is already saving lives. A recent 14 year old chat user who identified as nonbinary wrote in, "I'm feeling better, thank you so much for talking to me, understanding me, and helping me through this night. You are a beautiful human being and I appreciate the stuff you do for everyone. You are doing miracle work. You save people's lives. You calmed my mind down tonight and I thank you so much for that. You forever have a special place in my heart'.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
Another caller called in to say,"Thank you. On this day years ago, she had called the lifeline while in a dark place, and the counselor was able to give her the foundation of emotional support she needed to seek help and to heal. Today, she's in a really good place and she's currently looking to buy her first home, and she felt compelled to call into the lifeline and express her thanks".
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
The vision for 988 is a crisis care continuum consisting of three components like a three legged stool, someone to contact, someone to respond, and somewhere to go. The 988 crisis centers and the Administration have focused this first year on the first leg of the stool to ensure that there is sufficient capacity for 988 contacts from everywhere in California.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
We know that the volume to 988 will only increase with diversions from 911, with people seeking mobile crisis, and with increased advertising. Therefore, it is critical we ensure that there is sustainable, predictable funding in place as this life saving resource becomes even more recognized in the coming years.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
I want to thank all of our incredible 988 California crisis centers for their tireless work saving lives and their commitment to making the 988 network in California the very best that it can be.
- Shari Sinwelski
Person
On behalf of all of the 988 crisis centers, we also wish to express our gratitude to our state partners at the Department of Healthcare Services, the California Health and Human Services, and the California Office of Emergency Services for their ongoing support and collaboration, as well as Assembly Member Rebecca Bauer- Kahan, the principal author of AB 988. Thank you Chairman and Committee Members, and I'm happy to answer any questions thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we will hear from Michelle Cabrera with CBHDA.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Hi. Good evening, chair and Members, Michelle Cabrera with CBHDA. We want to first thank the Administration and the Legislature for the significant investments that have helped to lay some of the groundwork and the foundation for both our 988 call center infrastructure, as well as our mobile crisis infrastructure counties have in California for the last couple of decades, really seeded the investments that have made the network of suicide prevention call centers and warm lines throughout the state possible.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And in particular, they were able to leverage MHSA funding to help build out California's 988 call center capacity for Spanish language services, which then was the National Suicide Prevention Line, and are today and continue to be funders of those call centers to varying degrees, with two of those call centers being operated by county behavioral health. Specifically, I'm going to speak a little bit to both our efforts around mobile crisis services implementation as well as to the 988 rollout and the trailer Bill.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So on the mobile crisis side, again, much like the school based services, we've got a bit of a patchwork right now in California. And a big part of the reason why is because before the Medicaid benefit which CMS just brought online, there really was sort of not a consistent benefit or sustained funding. And with the Medical benefit, we will have funding for one out of every three Californians to receive a mobile crisis service.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
With the AB 988 legislation last year, the intention, I know was to put language in that would strengthen the requirement for private insurance plans to reimburse. We actually think that the administration's proposed trailer Bill revisions of that language does strengthen the opportunity for us to receive reimbursement for those out of network private insurance plan services. And it is nuanced, and it does get into your interpretation of federal law.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
I would say we lean closer to the state's interpretation and think that it's really important for us to remove the requirement that exists in 988 today for us to establish medical necessity to reimburse for call center services and for a field based mobile crisis. We actually preferred the administration's original language, which aligned reimbursement requirements with the prudent layperson standard for ambulance services.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So generally, if you think you have an emergency and it seems reasonable that you thought that, that the provider will get reimbursed for coming out and serving you. So we prefer plan a in terms of what has been offered, but think that this language is a step in the right direction and reimbursement on the private side is essential because again, 70% of Californians won't be captured under the medical benefit. And yet when people call 988 again, they're not going to be.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
When someone's having suicidal ideation, it's not a great time to say, hey, what kind of insurance do you have, by the way? Right? Or when they're in the field having a crisis. And so we want to remove as many barriers as we can to all get to that uniform, unified vision. It is going to take time to build out our capacity and infrastructure. The fact that the state put infrastructure money on the table, we've gotten a CMS planning grant.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
All of those things are really wonderful and really help to sort of move us in the right direction. But rural California is going to be tough, right? Finding the humans to work a night shift, a swing shift. I'm sure, you know, Dr. Arambula is really tough. And so we've been really appreciative to the state for allowing us to craft the benefit for a mobile crisis in a way where we can really maximize our use of paraprofessionals and phase in implementation, including with those 11 frontier counties.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
But we do think that it's still going to take a lot to get there. And so we need to take a sort of steady, focused approach, again, working in partnership with communities and along with the state. I'll just say one other quick thing, which is that in terms of the 988 call center structures and infrastructure, it'll also take time to knit together our 988 call centers with the mobile crisis services on the ground. Right.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Right now we have largely volunteer operated 988 call centers. And doing mobile crisis dispatch is really a professional job. Right. You need a clinician to do that triage and to determine whether or not you need to send a mobile crisis team out. That is a skill set in and of itself. We've got 12, 988 call centers in California today, compared with the almost 450, 911 call centers.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so that just puts into perspective a little bit the road that we're going to have to walk to get to that three stool vision that Shari laid out. And happy to take any questions?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Lishaun Francis
Person
Department of Finance. We would like to echo services agency's comments that trailer real language is an appropriate vehicle for this, given the governor's second message, and that it's related to a proposed ECP and DHCF.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Ryan Miller
Person
Ryan Miller. LAO, no concerns with the proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
We'll try again. Department of Finance.
- Elena Ramos
Person
Elena Ramos, Department of Finance this time on the record. We would like to echo the Health and Human Services Agency's comments that trailer bill language is an appropriate vehicle for this issue given, given the governor's signing message and that it's related to multiple budget change proposals.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO?
- Ryan Miller
Person
Ryan Miller, LAO. We have no concerns with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais. I'll begin. I want to focus on the mobile crisis teams. I think that's a really important part, and I'm hearing something different than I saw within the agenda, and it really sounds like you're trying to create flexibilities and broaden the service and acknowledge that it's not a one-size-fits-all, but many of our rural counties may need certain flexibilities. But I really want to get an understanding.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Are we expecting to be able to operationalize this by the end of the year, come next year? Are we expecting us to be able to realistically say we're treating the brain like we do medical emergencies? We'll get nuanced, too. But if we have a medical emergency and it's the prudent layperson standard, why do we have a different standard when it's a psychiatric emergency in terms of calling and not using that same one?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
So I'm just trying to get a sense, how can we make sure we're operationalizing by next year?
- Kimberly Chen
Person
Sure. I'll take, those are two different questions. And I will also welcome my DHCS and DMHC colleagues to speak to the mobile crisis pieces. And of course, to add on to the commercial coverage pieces. I'll speak first to the commercial coverage pieces. I think what you will see is that we actually mirrored the statutory language that is under 911 as the basis for the process for reimbursement for 988.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
So we didn't want to put it in the 911 statute for a number of reasons, and so we decided to mirror that language. So I don't know if Mr. Southard or others want to add on to that. And Mr. Sadwith, if you want to add on to the mobile crisis piece.
- Dan Southard
Person
Good evening. Dan Southard from the DMHC. As Ms. Chen was noting, our trailer bll language was trying to mirror our current statutory requirements for emergency services. And so it's a high-level overview of that. If an enrollee presents with a 988 crisis, no prior authorization is required by the health plan before those services are rendered until the point of stabilization.
- Dan Southard
Person
What we've noted in the trailer bill language is at the point of stabilization that the provider would need to contact the health plan to request either authorization for the services post-stabilization or transfer the enrollee to an in-network provider. Payment is at reasonable and customary for an out-of-network provider, and an in-network provider would be the contracted rate, and the cost-sharing for the consumer would be the in-network cost sharing, no matter which provider is providing the services.
- Dan Southard
Person
So that was our trying to mirror that. And I know we're working with the Steinberg Institute and Kennedy Forum to finalize that language because there's some concerns with the No Surprises Act going a little bit further on the post-stabilization, I think it's more specific to the requirement that the enrollee could be transferred through a non-emergency transportation service, which is a little bit of extension of our current 911 requirements. But again, more than happy to work with the Steinberg Institute and Kennedy Forum of Language.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'm going to uplift their comments about feeling positive. I too am encouraged by the conversation that we're having here, and it does appear the goals are clear, but I'm going to end like Ms. Cabrera did. It will take a lot for us to get there and I think when we hear about these patchworks, for us to make sure we have a stable safety net, it really takes collaboration and so look forward to those continued conversations and the direction that we're moving.
- Kimberly Chen
Person
Did you want Mr. Sadwith to speak to the mobile crisis?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Please.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Hi, good evening, Chair. Tyler Sadwith, Deputy Director, Department of Health Care Services. Deputy Director for Behavioral Health I wanted to provide clarification on the timeline for the implementation of the Medi-Cal mobile crisis benefit. One panelist noted that there's flexibility for 11 counties, so we have submitted a state plan amendment to our federal partners at CMS seeking coverage for the new Medi-Cal mobile crisis benefit effective January 1 of this year.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
We are working with our counties to ensure they have, over the course of this calendar year, to implement it so that counties would go live with Medi-Cal mobile crisis by the end of this calendar year. There are 11 counties representing less than 1% of the Medi-Cal population, whose population is so small that the rate development process based on projected service utilization for the 24/7 365 capacity means we still haven't finalized rates for those small counties.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
So we have proposed a six-month extension so that those counties would go live July 1, 2024.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will thank very much this panel and we will move on to issue seven. Issue seven is an overview of the Department of State Hospitals and the proposed DSH budget. Our first speaker is Stephanie Clendenin, Director of the Department of State Hospitals. Welcome and please begin.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
Good evening. Chair Stephanie Clendenin, Director for the Department of State Hospitals the Department of State Hospitals manages the California State Hospital System. DSH's mission is to provide evaluation and treatment in a safe and responsible manner by leading innovation and excellence across a continuum of care and settings. We operate the five state hospitals located throughout California with over 6,000 in-patient beds that include acute, intermediate, skilled nursing facility, and residential recovery level of beds.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
We also operate the Conditional Release Program, which is a system of community-based services operated in partnership with county Behavioral health and private providers that is designed to transition patients back into the community following a forensic commitment to DSH. We also have partnerships with county behavioral health programs, private providers, and county sheriffs to provide community-based restoration diversion opportunities and jail-based treatment programs for individuals committed to the Department as incompetent to stand trial.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
The individuals served by our system of care are mandated for mental health treatment by either a criminal or civil court judge or the board of parole hearings. The majority of the individuals we serve are forensic commitments. They have either committed or have been accused of committing crimes linked to their mental illness and come to us directly through the criminal courts or after they have completed a sentence at the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. We serve six different type of patient commitments.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
These include incompetent to stand trial, the not guilty by reason of insanity, individuals who have completed a sentence at CVCR for their crimes but then are committed to the Department as offenders with mental health disorders, or sexually violent predators after they've completed their sentence, and then current inmates from CDCR who require inpatient mental health treatment. And finally, we serve individuals conserved by a civil court under the Lanternman-Petris-Short Act who require state hospital-level treatment.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
The 23-24 Governor's Budget includes a total budget of 3.2 billion for DSH operations, an increase of 35.5 million, or 1%, from the 2022 Budget Act, with 49.7 proposed new positions in 23-24. The proposed budget augmentations generally include investments to continue the department's efforts towards improving the department's operations and delivery of services, and state hospital facility improvements.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
The caseload estimate is projected to exceed 9,000 by the end of fiscal year 23-24 with a total of 5,468 patients across the state hospitals, 2,772 in contracted programs, and 1049 in the conditional release programs. Before I proceed, I did wanted to check in with the Chair too. We are prepared to present an overview of each of the estimates that recognize in time whether you would like us to do that or not.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
High-level overviews are okay due to the lateness of the hour, and so 22 issues for us to address tonight. Let's keep it high-level, if we may.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
Okay, so I'll go ahead and turn it over to Chief Deputy Director Houser to cover the first half of them.
- Brent Houser
Person
Good evening Chair. My name is Brent Houser, Chief Deputy Director of Operations.
- Brent Houser
Person
I'll speak at a very high-level to specific program and caseload updates given the hour. Starting with the County Bed Billing Reimbursement Authority, this item is comprised of two main components that the county reimburses the Department for patient treatment, the first being Lanternman-Petris-Short population and the second being non-restorable incompetent to stand trial defendants who are not timely transported and returned to the committee county within statutory timelines. At the 2023 Governor's Budget, the Department proposes to maintain the current reimbursement authority of 191.6 million.
- Brent Houser
Person
Moving on to a different item. Under our estimate, the DSH-Metropolitan Increased Secure Bed Capacity Project, the Department reflects a one-time savings of $11.2 million General Fund in the current year. The project, which originated with the capital outlay project in 2016, added security, fencing, and infrastructure to an existing patient building at this hospital so the bed capacity could be used to serve additional forensic patients.
- Brent Houser
Person
The construction project was completed and two of the five patient units were activated prior to the pandemic for treatment of individuals found incompetent to stand trial. At the Governor's Budget, one unit is being used for COVID isolation space and the other two units are housing DSH-Metropolitan SNF patients. The savings identified are related to personal services associated with the delay in activation of the remaining units. Providing a quick update on enhanced treatment program.
- Brent Houser
Person
DSH is reporting a one-time savings of 4.8 million in the current year. In the prior year Budget Act, DSH was appropriated capital outlay funding to convert existing patient units into an enhanced treatment program. Units and resources were authorized to activate those units when they were completed. DSH previously completed the construction of a 13-bed unit at DSH Atascadero and that has been activated since September 2021.
- Brent Houser
Person
The second 10-bed unit at DSH Patton is underway and as of the Governor's Budget, DSH is experiencing a nine-month program activation delay for this unit due to construction and that's what the savings are reflecting.
- Brent Houser
Person
Moving on to DSH's mission-based review initiatives in the 2023-24 Governor's Budget, DSH reflects the savings of 44.9 million in current year, savings of 24 million and 46 and a half positions in 23-24, and 10 million and 46 positions in 24-25. And lastly, a savings of 10.9 million and 46 and a half positions at 25-26. Several years ago, DSH initiated an effort to evaluate staffing practices across the state hospitals and reviewed four components, hospital forensic departments, 24-hour care, nursing services, protective services, and treatment planning and delivery.
- Brent Houser
Person
As a result of these processes, proposed staffing methodologies and positions, requests and adjustments were requested and authorized to be phased in over a multi-year period for these four components, and the savings are reported are due to delays and challenges experienced with hiring positions that were authorized. Recognizing the challenges with recruiting and hiring, DSH has been implementing a multifaceted approach to expand its recruitment and retention efforts through marketing and outreach, pipeline development via educational partnerships, and streamlining the hiring process.
- Brent Houser
Person
Two more issues for me just summarizing high-level for the patient-driven operating experience, expenses, and equipment update DSH requests 20 and a half million ongoing to support the increase in patient-driven support costs within the DSH system, which include, but is not limited to, clothing, personal supplies, food, laundry, medication, and outside medical expenses. And DSH is utilizing the methodology established in prior budget acts to include a funding request in the budget year and ongoing based on 2021-22 actual expenditures and 2023-24 projected census. In relation to the COVID-19 response in the budget year, DSH is requesting 51.3 million one-time to continue to support infection control measures to protect the health and safety of our patients and our employees beyond the state of an emergency end date.
- Brent Houser
Person
With the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Department has executed a COVID-19 response plan in alignment with CDC, CDPH, and local public health departments, and we adjust this plan on an ongoing basis based on the nature of the pandemic. Resources are needed to continue to support testing surge capacity resources for public health-related personnel and PPE. With that, we'll go ahead and turn it over to the Chief Deputy Director of Program Services to conclude this item.
- Chris Edens
Person
Hi, Chris Edens, Chief Deputy Director, Program Services. I'll be commenting on the Conditional Release Program Non-SVP caseload. The Department is requesting 2.6 million and 2 positions in 23-24 and ongoing in response to increased workload and costs for the Department and our contracted providers and evaluators, which is driven by the activation of new placement options established under CONREP's expanding continuum of care.
- Chris Edens
Person
The CONREP Program is DSH's system of community-based services designed to transition individuals who are treated in the state hospitals and back into the community. During the past several budget acts, the Department has been authorized to expand the continuum of care in its CONREP Program to provide additional treatment settings to increase the number of individuals who are able to transition from the state hospitals.
- Chris Edens
Person
This has included establishing a new CONREP Forensic Assertive Community Treatment Regional Program, expanding the statewide Transitional Residential Program, and increasing the number of IMD beds in the CONREP program to help individuals transition. The projected CONREP Caseload is 1,020 CONREP clients in 22-23 as well as in 23-24.
- Chris Edens
Person
Lastly, we do have an item within our IST solutions estimate item with respect to this the budget adjustment reflected in this item is specific to the Jail-Based Competency Treatment Programs and the one-time infrastructure funding authorized in 22-23 to develop residential housing settings to support felony IST individuals participating in either community-based restoration or diversion programs.
- Chris Edens
Person
The Department is requesting one position in 23-24 ongoing to support the shift in administrative workload from clinicians to an office technician, which is going to free the clinical staff to focus on patient care issues and provider oversight. Additionally, the Department is reflecting a net savings of 27.4 million in the current year and 3.1 million in the budget year and ongoing.
- Chris Edens
Person
Primary driver of the savings is a reduction in the San Bernardino Jail-Based Competency Treatment Program's capacity from 146 beds to 64, which was effective in September of last year. In addition, there are a number of offsets to the level of budget year savings due to a number of programs that are pending activation. Three additional programs were able to increase their bed capacity by 40 beds and bed rate increases anticipated for 20 of the participating counties.
- Chris Edens
Person
As of December 2022, there were 413 beds across 23 county programs and with that, I will conclude my presentation and ask if there's any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance?
- Nina Hoang
Person
Department of Finance, Nina Hoang. No further comments.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO?
- Will Owens
Person
Will Owens, LAO. We have no concerns with any of the proposals.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will thank very much this panel and we will move on to issue eight. Issue eight is an oversight issue on behavioral health and justice involvement. Our first speaker will be DSH Director Stephanie Clendenin.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Stephanie Clendenin, Director for the Department of State Hospitals.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
The 2022 Budget act authorized 535 million, increasing to 638 million in fiscal year 25-26 for the Department of State hospitals to implement incompetent to stand trial solutions to help address the growing number of individuals being referred from the courts to the Department as incompetent to stand trial. Individuals who are incompetent to stand trial, have been arrested for a crime and as a result of their mental illness, are unable to understand the nature of the charges against them or assist their counsel in their defense.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
The courts make the determination whether an individual is incompetent to stand trial based on the evaluation by a court-appointed evaluator. Individuals who are found incompetent to stand trial on felony charges are typically referred to the Department for restoration of competency treatment. Over the last decade, despite DSH's efforts to expand treatment capacity, among other efforts, the increasing number of individuals being found IST and referred to the Department outpaced the Department's efforts and resulted in an ongoing waitlist for individuals needing restoration of competency services.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
Additionally, due to the COVID-19 pandemic and necessary infection control measures that we had to implement at the state hospitals during the first two years of the pandemic, the waitlist increased significantly.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
As a result of a 2015 lawsuit by the ACLU regarding the time that IST defendants were waiting in jail to be transferred to DSH's treatment programs. The court ordered the Department to initiate substantive treatment services within 28 days for IST defendants by February 2024 and also set interim benchmarks for the Department to achieve between August 22 and February of 2024.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
The additional solutions funded in the 2022 Budget Act, along with other recent investments in prior budget acts, included short-term and long-term strategies centered around two primary goals. The first being initiating treatment services for our IST individuals within the 28 days as required by the court, and secondly really changing the arc of the lives of those that DSH serves by reducing criminalization of individuals with serious mental illness. The IST solutions are focused on three strategies.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
They include expanding the treatment continuum, maximizing efficiencies, and reducing demand. Now I would like to turn it over to Chief Deputy Director Chris Edens, who will walk through and provide a brief outline of the implementation efforts associated with each of these strategies.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
But before I do, I did want to acknowledge, as she presents all of these, that we have been able to accomplish all this through the tremendous partnerships with County Behavioral Health, sheriff's departments, and private providers, and just really want to thank them all for their participation in all of these efforts as well, because the Department cannot do it alone.
- Chris Edens
Person
Hi Chris Edens, Chief Deputy Director, Program Services. So for the first strategy, we focused on significantly expanding the treatment continuum for IST individuals, with an emphasis on community-based treatment options such as community-based restoration and diversion that connect individuals to treatment in their communities rather than institutionalization in a state hospital.
- Chris Edens
Person
However, building out the infrastructure needed to significantly expand community treatment options will take multiple years and we have individuals on the waitlist who need treatment now, so we have had to include more short-term strategies such as jail-based treatment options. To highlight some of the key investments under this strategy, in the short term, we augmented current diversion pilot contracts with counties to provide one-time housing augmentation to provide greater opportunities for individuals on the waitlist to be served in the existing diversion pilot programs.
- Chris Edens
Person
Additionally, we implemented early access and stabilization services, which is designed to provide early access to treatment for IST individuals on the waitlist. Currently, we've implemented this program in 32 counties as of July of last year, and over 1,000 IST individuals have received treatment in this program.
- Chris Edens
Person
In the longer term, the current and prior budget act supported a significant expansion of community treatment options, which included funding to develop up to 5,000 beds over a four-year period, and that includes both the infrastructure funding and ongoing operational funding to provide the dedicated housing and treatment needed to support the IST population served in community-based restoration or diversion programs.
- Chris Edens
Person
We've contracted with Advocates for Human Potential to help us administer the infrastructure program, and the request for proposal for funding was released to counties in February of this year. In addition, the 21-22 Budget Act provided funding for the Department to contract for community inpatient facilities. These facilities primarily are envisioned to provide treatment and stabilization for IST individuals to increase opportunities for placement in community-based treatment and diversion.
- Chris Edens
Person
In the past year, we've contracted with the Sacramento Behavioral Health Hospital for 78 beds and continue negotiations for additional facilities with service providers over the next 18 to 24 months. The second strategy is focused on improving processes to help maximize efficiencies in the placement process. I will highlight a couple of efforts in this strategy that were funded in the 22 Budget Act, and they include implementing new care coordination teams.
- Chris Edens
Person
These teams will help the Department to screen all felony IST patients to determine appropriate placement within DSH's broad and expanding continuum of care, provide enhanced monitoring of the waitlist, and provide commitment to admission case management to maximize bed usage for the IST population. Since July, we've worked to rapidly hire new staff and have implemented care coordination across 34 counties.
- Chris Edens
Person
In addition, we are piloting a new independent placement panel for CONREP transitional patients to increase the number of state hospital patients served in the community within the Conditional Release Program. We are currently planning to begin implementation of this new program by July 2023. The third strategy focused on reducing demand for IST treatment services includes the IST Re-Evaluation Pilot Program that was implemented in 21-22.
- Chris Edens
Person
This program reevaluates individuals in jail and on the waitlist pending placement to a DSH treatment program to see if they have already restored to competency and no longer need treatment in a DSH bed. To date, this team has performed over 2,500 reevaluations, and nearly 30% of those of the individuals that have been reevaluated were found competent by the evaluators, and the other 70% were identified as not competent and remained on the pathway to admission into a treatment program.
- Chris Edens
Person
Additionally, funding was provided in 2022 Budget Act for DSH to partner with the Judicial Council to develop and implement training and workforce development programs for court-appointed evaluators with the goal of improving the quality of IST evaluations utilized by the courts to determine if someone is incompetent to stand trial. We have now entered into an interagency agreement with the Judicial Council for the development of the IST court-appointed evaluator training.
- Chris Edens
Person
Lastly, the IST solutions also included implementation of a felony IST growth cap to help ensure that the expansion of DSH-funded community-based care does not create unintended incentives that may drive additional IST determinations. In December, the Department issued to county administrators, the courts, sheriffs, district attorneys, and public defenders information about the growth cap program, how penalty calculations will be made, each county's 2021-22 baseline determinations, and the county's first quarter 22-23 determinations and how that compared to their baseline.
- Chris Edens
Person
Last month, the Department provided an update to the same recipients on each county's second-quarter referrals and trends compared to their baseline. The data showed overall statewide referrals in total across the first two quarters have increased by about 20% over last year, which is their baseline year. But in comparing the first quarter to the second quarter, there was a 4% decrease in the total referral statewide between quarter one and quarter two, with 30 counties experiencing a decline between these two quarters.
- Chris Edens
Person
To assist counties in identifying strategies to reduce the number of IST determinations, the Department is partnering with the Council on State Government's Justice Center to develop training and technical assistance opportunities for counties, and in December, the Department released to counties a request for application funding process for $100,000 annually for each county to establish collaborative stakeholder workgroups that target strategies and seek solutions to end the criminalization of individuals with serious mental illness in their communities.
- Chris Edens
Person
To date, 32 counties have applied for this funding to convene these work groups in their counties, and the Department will be hosting another round of funding applications for the new fiscal year. The agenda did include a couple of questions for the Department. I can provide a response to number two, then hand it back to the Director to provide a response to number one and close that up.
- Chris Edens
Person
Question number two is when is it reasonable to expect that the Department will have outcomes data needed to evaluate the Mental Health Diversion Program? I will say that the initial IST Pilot Diversion Program is still currently underway. This program was extended effective with the 21-22 Budget Act due to the impacts of the pandemic and the delay in implementing some of these programs in the counties. To that end, the pilot program is not expected to end until June of 2025.
- Chris Edens
Person
However, while this program is underway, each year the Department collects and reports on data and outcomes of the individuals that are being served within our diversion programs, and we publish this as part of our budget estimate in the Governor's Budget and May Revision. Information that's included in this report includes number of individuals participating in the program, demographics, diagnoses, the charges that were associated with their arrest, the current status of participants, including the number of individuals that are in the diversion program who've completed the program those who may not have successfully completed the program.
- Chris Edens
Person
We also include success rates for individuals with certain factors such as homelessness, substance abuse disorders, treatment with long-acting injectable medication. Further, outcomes are dependent upon the Department's access to DOJ criminal offender record data, and there is a proposal that's currently being heard later to be able to access this information to look more at long-term outcomes for this population. Additionally, funding in the IST solutions budget was included to perform a more comprehensive evaluation of IST solutions, including our diversion program.
- Chris Edens
Person
And to that end, we've entered into a contract with policy research associates to design and implement a phased evaluation of the diversion programs, and we expect this initial report to be completed next year in 2024.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
And then just to close up with the final question, which was to provide the most recent assessment of progress being made with regards to the waitlist. And Chief Deputy Director Eden's provided an overview of all the implementation efforts that we have implemented across this last year.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
And as a result of that rapid implementation of these solutions, as well as easing of the pandemic-related infection control measures that were required on healthcare facilities during the past year, we have significantly reduced both the IST waitlist and the time to treatment since this time last year. In March of 2022, we had over 1m],900 individuals on the waitlist. In April this year, we are currently at 1008, which is a 48% reduction in the waitlist.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
And of those 1008 on the waitlist, actually 174 are already receiving treatment through the Early Access and Stabilization Services Program that we implemented this year with counties, sheriffs. And then with respect to the wait time, the average wait time to treatment has reduced from an average of 134 days in March of last year to 60 days in March of this year, which is a 55% reduction.
- Stephanie Clendenin
Person
So we are seeing tremendous progress as a result of all the efforts that we are working on with everybody and our partners.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Next, we will hear from Dr. Ewing with the Commission.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair Members. So the Commission has done a number of things in terms of trying to focus on upstream opportunities to prevent. The Department of State hospitals are sort of the end of the line, so to speak, in terms of some of our most negative outcomes. It's a combination of hospitalization tied to criminal justice involvement, and we know there's a significant factor of homelessness associated with the population who's at exceptional risk.
- Toby Ewing
Person
So in many ways, the Department and its work is catching all of the missed opportunities, so to speak, that have happened along the way. The Commission's work is in the context of the challenge that's laid out in the hearing materials. We would say there's a couple of opportunities here just in interest of time. We need to do the data work to understand what's happening upstream. Right?
- Toby Ewing
Person
The Department has done some phenomenal work to show a high level of criminal justice involvement at the county level well before someone has a felony charge. We've been working with local officials to encourage them to ask some fundamental questions. Who's in their jail? Who's receiving mental health services? And are those folks known to their behavioral health system? If they're known to their behavioral health system, then it's clear that we may have a quality of care problem.
- Toby Ewing
Person
If they're not known to their behavioral health system, then they may have an access problem. They're accessing mental health services for the first time through law enforcement involvement, and that's inappropriate. I want to distinguish between people who are committing criminal justice infractions or very serious criminal behavior versus criminal behavior that may be simply tied to unaddressed mental health needs. My comments earlier about the importance of early intervention in psychosis because the presumption is that we don't know as much as we could know.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Looking at the data that the state has between the Department of Justice, the Department of Health Care Services, and the Department of State hospitals really understand the patterns in terms of whether it is psychosis that is leading to involvement with the Department of State Hospitals and how an expansion, to your point, of highly effective early psychosis care available on a statewide basis could actually fundamentally reduce those costs.
- Toby Ewing
Person
So that's part of the reason why I made my comments about early psychosis earlier, but the state's investment in full-service partnerships. Those programs were designed originally to bring people out of state hospitals more of an LPS population, a civil commitment population at the time, 20 years ago plus than a forensic population.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But again, we need to ask that question of why are people becoming into contact with the criminal justice system at the rate that leads to them landing at the Department of State Hospitals in the first place. So based on the graphic that I shared with you earlier, the Commission's approach is really to say before someone gets to a state hospital, before they have that justice involvement, that pattern, there needs to be a robust full-service partnership strategy.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But that's also expensive and we have limited capacity. To reduce demand on that component of our system of care, we need to have an aggressive early psychosis strategy. And an upstream strategy from there is our youth drop-in work. Because psychosis is likely to occur in the late teens or early 20s and that's where this youth drop-in program is designed. It's how do we create trust? How do we create understanding? So when someone begins to develop symptoms associated with psychosis, they're not masking that.
- Toby Ewing
Person
They've already developed the trusting relationships with the provider community to enable them to stop by and say, hey, I need help. And through that youth drop-in, be able to get a referral to a high-quality, effective program even farther upstream. Gets at the comments that Dr. Jackson made around school mental health is how do we create awareness?
- Toby Ewing
Person
How do we do the anti-stigma work so that for that percentage of the population that is likely to face those risks as they move down that Continuum with an illness, that they have the resources, the tools, the supports, the trust that is necessary to get in front of this problem very early on? For us, it starts with doing the data analysis and building out a prevention strategy that's responsive to that analytic framework.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I will now call up and apologies for jumping over her before, but next is Jacey Cooper, State Medicaid Director with Department of Healthcare Services.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
That's okay. No apologies. Jacey Cooper, State Medicaid Director. There's two main intersections with what the Department has been working on, both that will be presented later in this hearing. So I'll be very short with my comments. Mainly the main intersection is around our justice-involved waiver. Would just want to say coverage of individuals incompetence to stand trial would only be covered if someone is pending so in a jail facility for those 90 days.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So we think it would be a very small touch in regards to any interaction there, but there is an opportunity, if they are in a jail setting for at any time before or after their time at a state hospital, that they would be able to receive services there. The only other piece I would flag is within our CalBHCBC waiver, our demonstration waiver for behavioral health, the addition of fact would allow for us to provide some additional services for individuals in the community, and counties could opt into that as an option, and we'll provide more information in the hearing later regarding both of those options.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Next, we will hear from Phebe Bell with the Nevada County Behavioral Health, who is their Director. Welcome.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Hi, good evening. Thanks for having me, and in the interest of brevity, I'll try to keep this short. First and foremost, county behavioral health departments very much are aligned with the Department of State hospitals and I'm sure everyone in this room and our desire to keep people with mental illness out of jail and in treatment. To that end, we've really appreciated the partnership and the great programs that DSH has put forward, and most counties have been taking full advantage of those, including my own Nevada County.
- Phebe Bell
Person
And in addition, we've always done work with this population and continue to do so. In Nevada County, we have staff embedded in the jails, staff in the Probation Department, staff in the Public Defender's Office. We staff specialty courts, and we have staff working in the courts every day. So we deeply understand the need to find ways to pull people out of that system and into treatment.
- Phebe Bell
Person
My comments today, though, are really on our concerns with the new growth cap policy that's on track to be implemented this year. The growth cap is designed to compel counties to reduce the number of individuals who ultimately end up on the state hospital waitlist by financially penalizing those who send greater numbers of felony ISTs to the state year over year. County behavioral health agencies opposed this policy last year, in large part because we have very little influence on the key drivers of IST.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We know that housing status is one of the most critical indicators or risk factors for being found IST. Similarly, the decision to arrest somebody or not arrest somebody, take them into a crisis system or arrest them, the decision to file felony charges or not, there are multiple systems that impact that outcome, and it's a complex driver of the outcome of an IST finding.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We're concerned that counties have not been involved in the development of the growth cap methodology, and we think that some of the approaches being used now is pretty fundamentally flawed. First and foremost, the state's own guidance says that all determinations by the courts will be counted toward the cap.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Even when individuals never go to the Department of State hospital because they're diverted, because they've been found competent before they actually get to the state hospital, or even because they're deceased, they still count towards our cap, which is problematic. It's particularly problematic to count all determinations because we know the quality of IST determinations is not great. DSH's own review found that there's many issues with the determination process and including that fact that at least 30% of individuals turn out to be found competent on reevaluation.
- Phebe Bell
Person
So given the considerable lack of consistency and quality monitoring of evaluations, findings of incompetency by the court should not be the numbers used by DSH, but rather they should count the people who actually make it into DSH beds. In addition, the structure of the growth cap actually disincentivizes counties like mine from participating in diversion and community-based restoration, as we're still penalized for this population even while we're working to solve for keeping people out of DSH.
- Phebe Bell
Person
And then also lastly, the methodology, as it currently stands, disproportionately impacts smaller counties who traditionally have not sent many individuals to the state hospitals as felony ISTs.
- Phebe Bell
Person
So CBHDA would like to see changes to the statute that ensure that the proposed growth cap does not inadvertently find counties who build out diversion and community-based restoration options, assurance that counties will be consulted in the development of the growth cap methodology, and assurance that due process and an appeals process will be developed so that counties can verify and validate any individuals who may count toward their penalty.
- Phebe Bell
Person
As it currently stands, counties like my own are on track to pay collectively millions of dollars in fines this year, with no guarantee that the state-directed investments will ultimately be successful in turning the tide. This is, for me personally, particularly ironic because my county currently has the lowest rate of referrals to DSH in the state, and yet we're on track to pay fines this year. We need a system that incentivizes systemic solutions to the IST challenge and doesn't indiscriminately penalize counties.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We urge the Legislature and the Administration to continue to work with us on solutions that will get us to that end. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nina Hong
Person
Nina Hong, Department of Finance. Nothing further to add.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO
- Will Owens
Person
Will Owens. LAO. Nothing further but available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll bring it up to the dais. I'm going to begin, if I can, the court determinations. The court makes the determinations. And you said there were 2500 evaluations and 31% of those were restored. Is that an appropriate number for us to restore? Is there an appropriate amount of concern that this number is so high? It sounded earlier that you're working with the judicial counsel on court appointed evaluations. Will that help us to make sure that those determinations are more accurate?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you for the question. So with respect to the reevaluations, the 2500 individuals that have been reevaluated and 30% were found competent. It's important to note that the finding of competency, many of these individuals had been treated within the jail programs, and so they may have restored just by the nature of the amount of time.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We've got to remember in the last couple of years, people have been waiting an inordinate amount of time on the waitlist to get into treatment, and we're receiving some level of services. So that's going to be one factor that probably drove that number higher in recent years than what we would anticipate.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Our work with the UC Davis, in looking at the incompetent to stand trial population, historically looked at more, I think it was about a 20% rate of individuals coming into our system in the historical years. In looking at the numbers that were coming incompetent, again, it's difficult to tell how much of that is due to treatment received versus really looking until you get in and do a study of the reports.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We did do a review of the reports, and I'm going to fail to remember the, I think it was AB 1394 which required us to establish requirements for the courts on kind of the evaluator training or expertise that they should have in order to be court appointed evaluators. And when we did do a review of those reports, we did find that a good portion, that's probably not the appropriate way to say it, because we only sampled the reports.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
But we did find a portion of those reports that we sampled did have. They were reports that did not meet all the criteria of either the statute or really didn't highlight clear criteria for the court as to the reason that the individual should or shouldn't be found competent. And so we do know that, as we see and are performing evaluations and reevaluations, we do question some of the court appointed evaluator findings I elevated as.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
There's an acceptable amount of appendixes you can take to the or without having all of them be infected, that we need to be cautious and if the court appointed is determining that too many are being labeled IST, that has complications as well. And so I look forward to the continued work that you're doing. I want to bring up what the Director had just talked about, though, about the determinations all counting against the cap. I was really struck by that dead people are counting against the cap.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Why aren't we looking towards those who end up in Department of State hospital beds total, rather than all that come up for determinations?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Thank you. That's a really good question. Just kind of looking at a historical perspective of all of the department's efforts. The Department and the Administration and the Legislature have all invested a tremendous amount of money and time, resources and effort into building out capacity for individuals who are found incompetent to stand trial. And what we've seen is as we build more continue to be referred to the Department.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And when we say the Department, the Administration, the budget, the General Fund is funding all programs, not just the ones of individuals coming to the Department of State hospitals. But this includes the community based restoration programs, this includes individuals that are coming and being participating in diversion and our jail based treatment program. So it's all of those services, all of that capacity that we're building out in order to address this increasing number of individuals who are being arrested and committed to the department's total programs.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And so that's why as we look at the determinations, we're looking across all the programs, because the state's investing in all of these programs in order to address this continuing growth of individuals that are being referred.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Are dead people included in all of those programs. I'm really struck by that example.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
That's a good question, and we'll have to go back and take a look at whether we adjusted for those individuals, but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't receive any of the Department services while they were waiting on the waitlist. Particularly, we do have the early access services program, so we would have to take a look at and look to see what.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I just would love to stress what counties want is to partner. As we are in many ways with DSH to again serve these people in a community setting. We know the outcomes are better if we use this opportunity to get people connected into long term resources and care. And so continuing to incentivize that work feels more important than penalizing a decision that has multiple factors weighing into the decision that was made to identify somebody as IST to begin with.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I wanted to point out last question, top of page 73 is a lot of the data regarding the long acting injectables that I'm trying to. It's pretty convincing. When you look at the homeless who are IST and the use of the long acting injectables, have we determined whether this is statistically significant, or are we working with researchers to make suggestions based on this data? There are trends, but I'm just trying to understand if this is. Are we able to create actions out of it?
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Yeah, I think currently we are working with our medical directors, working with UC Davis, and has been for a number of years, to kind of quantify and track the number of individuals and the types of individuals that are coming into our state hospital system. And we find that nearly 70% of those that have been admitted to a state hospital have one of the three highly treatable diagnoses, and that's schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, and bipolar disorder.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And just by virtue of those types of diagnoses, we also know that those are really effective with treatment by medication. We're also working with. We do have an extensive PRN, pharmacist, and psychiatrist team who are constantly looking at new research. And so it's just by virtue of also just the information that is coming up through that pipeline and the new research and literature out there on the effectiveness of the medications and how they do support individuals stabilizing to be able to transition.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
That's part of what we've been highlighting as far as recommendations to our county partners in establishing some of these county programs.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And I'd just love to add to that. We rely heavily on long acting injectables at a county level throughout the state, and we know they can be highly effective. What we also know is that providing long term medical care to somebody who's unsheltered and hard to find and hard to make sure that their labs are okay and all the different parts that go with that is really challenging. And I just can't stress enough. Homelessness is the underlying variable more than the lack of treatment.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We know how to treat people. It's just very hard to do when we can't find shelter for them.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will thank very much this panel, and we will move on to issue nine. Issue nine is on the Department of State Hospital Criminal Offender record information data trailer. Bill, you will have J. C. Thompson, who's the Deputy Director of the hospital strategic planning and implementation at DSH, to present this issue. Welcome and please begin.
- JC Thompson
Person
Thank you. Good evening. JC Thompson Department of State Hospitals The Department is proposing changes to two sections. First, penal code Section 1115 and WIC 4040. Welfare and institutions code 4040 requires DSH to conduct research and evaluation studies which have an application to mental health policy and management issues.
- JC Thompson
Person
This proposed language would amend penal code section 1105 to include the Department of State Hospitals as a named agency having statutory authority to obtain access to criminal offender information through the Department of Justice for the specific purposes of conducting research, program evaluation, data analytics, and legislative reporting on areas with important implications to mental health policy and management. Access to this data will assist the Department in studying program outcomes related to IST solutions program such as diversion.
- JC Thompson
Person
The second code that's proposed for changes is welfare and institutions code 4046. These changes would clarify DSH's ability to exchange criminal identification and information numbers with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. So this data exchange promotes accurate record matching of the data necessary to perform this research.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we have Jana Lauder, DSH Research Data center.
- Jana Lauder
Person
And I just echo everything that J.C. Thompson just said, but if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nina Hong
Person
Nina Hong, Department of Finance nothing further to add.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO
- Will Owens
Person
Will Owens, LAO. We have no concerns with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I will thank very much this panel, and we will move on to issue 10. Issue 10 is on the Calaim justice involved initiative. First, we have J.C. Cooper, state Medicaid Director. Please begin when you are ready.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
All right, thank you. Over 400,000 adults and youth are released from correctional settings every year from prisons, jails and juvenile facilities, and at least 80% of those individuals are eligible for medical. In January, California became the first in the nation to be approved to offer targeted Medicaid services to someone while incarcerated in prisons, jails and juvenile facilities for up to 90 days prior to release.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
The intent of the demonstration is to build on community based care and to really ensure that we are working to stabilize, diagnose and do a coordinated reentry into the community to see better successful outcomes for individuals as they transition into the community. Since October of 2021, the Department of Healthcare Services has convened a statewide Advisory Committee informing this policy. The entire time we were negotiating with CMS, we've appreciated the feedback of that Advisory Committee.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
It had sheriff Department, probation, CDCR counties, managed care plans, community based organizations. We will continue to convene that group as we're also working through some implementation design and feedback as well. People who are now or have spent time in jails, prisons experience disproportionately higher rates of physical and behavioral health diagnoses and are higher risk for injury and death as a result of trauma, violence, overdose, suicide than people who have not been incarcerated.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Incarcerated individuals who have a behavioral health disorder are more likely than those without a disorder to have been homeless in the year prior to incarceration, less likely to have been employed prior to their arrest, and are more likely to report a history of physical or sexual abuse of people incarcerated in state federal prisons. Nationally, the mortality rate two weeks post release from prison has been found to be 12.7 times higher than the normal rate that is significant.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
One of the core pieces of this waiver is focusing on that reentry to reduce that cycle for those two weeks upon release. We do know there's a lot of data that shows upon release, someone will immediately go to an emergency room where they can oftentimes be admitted or they go into the community, they stop taking their medication, and then they, within six months or within the two week period, show up in an emergency room or get admitted as well.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Additionally, while we know incarcerated individuals often face significant, complex medical conditions, we know for the past decade, the proportion of incarcerated individuals in California jails with an active mental health case has rose by 63% in California, and we also know that the overdose rate for individuals incarcerated is three times the higher than the national rate. Additionally, the issue of poor health outcomes and death for individuals for those who have been incarcerated is a critical health equity issue because in California, people of color are disproportionately incarcerated.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
For example, incarceration rates among black men are 4000 per 100,000, Latino men 1000 per 100,000, whereas men of all other races and ethnicities 314 per 100,000. So the disparities are clear in regards to needing to intervene. Additionally, our goal is to provide an opportunity for physical and behavioral health care interventions at earlier opportunities to reduce acute service utilization and adverse health outcomes while providing a coordinated reentry into the community for incarcerated individuals. What I would also say is we come to this with experience
- Jacey Cooper
Person
in California. We had whole person care pilots from 2016 to 2021 that had demonstrated improved outcomes. Many of these pilots aimed to increase access to housing and supportive services for people leaving incarceration. An independent evaluation showed that focusing on reentry and doing a coordinated reentry while someone is incarcerated prior to release showed an improvement in regards to someone being connected to housing supports upon release into the community.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Additionally, the pilots who chose to report the information reported the number of incarcerations that occurred for those ages 14 and older, the jail incarceration rate decreased from 18 incarcerations per 1000 Member months to six incarcerations per 1000 Member months for those participating in these programs so demonstrated success here in California with the pilots in taking this statewide. Under this initiative, individuals will receive prerelease services. It can include case or care management services. It can include treatment services, diagnosis and assessment services.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
It will also include services like MAT or medication treatment, as well as warm handoffs to our county behavioral health partners, which is required for someone with serious mental illness or substance use as diagnosed or identified while incarcerated. To ensure that we are continuing that treatment. The goal is to really identify that within the incarcerated setting, connect them to trusted partners, whether county or community based organizations, and focusing on that reentry.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Additionally, upon release, everyone will receive a medication, prescription or DME for anything that they need and they will be focused on enhanced care management for our justice population, which will focus on coordinating all of the services needed once they are in the community. That would include connection to our community supports like housing, supportive services, or for example, someone could be discharged from jail to one of our recuperative care settings if the coordination can happen timely.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
In addition to the waiver we are also proposing, what's also approved is 561,000,000 for what we call providing access and transforming health or path dollars for the justice initiative. These dollars are really to help counties and CDCR, as well as our county behavioral health and sheriff probation partners be ready for this proposal. We've been releasing guidance in regards to these funds and look forward to partnering with them as they implement provisions of the prerelease. Incarcerated individuals will go live no sooner than April of 2024.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
CMS and the State of California did have to negotiate a number of readiness criteria that counties would have to demonstrate prior to being able to go live, and we need the path dollars to get into the hands of the county so they can be prepared for the services that they are doing. Counties will have up to 24 months to elect to go live anytime between that April of 2024 through April of 2026 to go live with prerelease services.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We do look forward to implementing this and partnering with our county partners to do this. We do think this is one of the pieces in Cal Aim that truly can change the trajectory of someone's life, and we look forward to working with the Legislature and our partners to implement this initiative.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Phoebe Bell, Director of Nevada County Behavioral Health Association.
- Phebe Bell
Person
All those things. Thanks. So first off, I just want to stress that county behavioral health departments are super excited about California's first in the nation waiver to allow for Medical enrollment and reimbursement for pre release services, incarcerated settings, and really appreciate the work of the state in making this happen. I just highlighted minutes ago much of the work that counties already do in this space. We are deeply committed to serving this population. Just wanted to add a couple of other quick things.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Nevada county is one of 37 counties in California that's participating in the stepping up initiative, and we pull together all our partners that intersect in this space to talk together about how do we do better by this population.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We also are a county that through a grant from the OAC as an innovation incubator project, we're able to bring in data analysis resources that have really helped us better understand this population and their ebb and flow through our systems, and really have helped inform some great initiatives and programs and recently led us to being recognized as an innovator county through the stepping up initiative, one of a few in California.
- Phebe Bell
Person
And then lastly, we know that our MHSA funded programs are highly effective at keeping people out of jail. We see almost a 70% reduction in justice involvement for our clients enrolled in FSP. So we are excited to be partnering with DHCs to help shape this really exciting benefit and just wanted to flag a few things which we think are just areas of concern that I think the state is also aware of.
- Phebe Bell
Person
But one of the most critical aspects of this policy is the idea that people are in jail for a while. And what we know from our data work is that 70% of jail bookings are in jail for less than three days, and the vast majority of those are in jail for less than 24 hours. And so how to work with that population is a pretty critical component of how to operationalize this idea and make it effective.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We also know that the unpredictability of when people are getting released makes it very challenging as well. And courts and jails go back and forth on that, and this can make warm handoffs and transportation a big challenge. We want to flag that this fee for service model inside the jail, where corrections facilities are deciding who and how services are provided, just needs to have the same kind of quality assurance expectations that we have at a community setting so that we have comparable services.
- Phebe Bell
Person
And then lastly, we really want to flag that workforce is going to be a challenge. We really support the build out of using peers in this space and other creative solutions because the workforce issues are so massive and we don't want to get into bidding wars with our jails. About the few clinicians that we have out there left to try to recruit.
- Phebe Bell
Person
So by bringing this Medical reimbursement into the fold, we can begin to develop the systems and accountability structures to tackle these issues and improve the quality of services. We're excited about that.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Guadalupe Manriquez
Person
Guadalupe Manriquez, Department of Finance. Here to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Will Owens
Person
Will Owns LAO. We have no concerns with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll bring it back to the dais. I'm a huge fan of the proposal and want to appreciate the Administration for bringing it forward. The two thirds reduction that occurs from the program that you stated here today, going from 18 down to six is very good data and it's a strong reason and rationale for us to be extending medical in.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'm trying to bring in what Ms. Bell had talked about though, about being in for three days or less than 24 hours to understand how we can realistically provide those supportive services and align those housing supports. And so I just love to have you comment on that if possible.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Sure. So we have segmented all of the data and we've worked very closely with our sheriff probation in CDCR to understand. Obviously for someone in CDCR, they're going to probably be able to maximize the full 90 days for individuals in the jails. We do know that there's a large portion that are in and out within 24 hours. Most likely they will not be able to take advantage of this initiative. I just want to be really frank there with individuals.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We also see on average statewide probably closer to a week and 14 days where you do have some opportunities to at least assess, diagnose, and have a small amount of information that come and go out. We're actually working on policy and we have a small work group focusing on the short term stay. How do we maximize a short term stay versus those who are longer? We do know we have individuals in the jails who do have longer period of time.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So from our opinion, it's up to that 90 days. So we will try to maximize as much of that as we can and have been doing some great thinking with people and would love to bring you to the table to have those conversations, to really think through the different models depending on the time period that someone is in. But some of these will take time in regards to connecting people.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So everything may not be available for someone in those shorter stays, but that is why we also have the justice released enhanced care management. Anyone who is released from incarceration would be able to be captured even within the community and then receive and get connected to many of the various supports where someone they're working with peers who have previously been incarcerated, for example, or various pieces. And on the comment for the workforce, we're also including community health workers in here.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We're hoping that can be a good use as well as peers to really focus on some of the non clinical workforce that could really do a lot of this care coordination, connections, trust building, and connection to services in the community and in incarcerated settings.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
We heard from Dr. Ewing earlier about the importance of us getting upstream, helping to prevent some of those overdoses or cases of homelessness that occur post release are very strong rationales for us to be making these changes. And again, just want to appreciate the Administration. With that, we will thank very much this panel and move on to issue 11, as I hope we're halfway through the hearing. I'm going to take a two minute break and then come right back.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
But if I could have 11 come forward. Hi.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Going to pull us back to order? If I can. And appreciate the pause. We will focus on issue 11, which is an oversight issue on behavioral health and homelessness. Our first speaker is Dr. Tara Niendam with UC Davis. Thank you, doctor. Begin whenever you are ready.
- Tara Niendam
Person
That one caught me by surprise. So there's already been a lot of discussion about how individuals with psychotic disorders, like schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, and then individuals with bipolar disorder can also have psychotic features, and that these individuals disproportionately represent those in the justice system, and that homelessness is a key driver of folks entering with these diagnoses entering our justice system. So I'm here to talk about homelessness.
- Tara Niendam
Person
So I'm here to represent those early psychosis programs across the state who are serving or want to serve these individuals who have these early signs of psychosis. I would like to highlight that across these programs, we are only able to serve less than one 10th of the number of Californians. So incidence estimates would suggest that we should see 27,000 individuals per year with a new diagnosis of psychosis. And so we're able to capture about a little over 2000 of those folks in our current programs.
- Tara Niendam
Person
And so that means there's about 20,000 residents who are at high risk for future homelessness. So, with the support of the MHSOAC and DHCS, we've collaboratively co-developed an outcomes evaluation for use in early psychosis programs. We did a lot of engagement with various community partners, clients, families, providers, state, and local leadership to understand what outcomes mattered and how best to measure those. And homelessness.
- Tara Niendam
Person
And risk for homelessness was one of those, although it was a very common refrain as we were doing these engagement meetings to hear from providers, our clients weren't homeless. We don't see that in early psychosis. And then we started looking at the data, which is primarily self-report.
- Tara Niendam
Person
And what we learned is that coming into these programs, 38% of individuals with early psychosis endorsed housing instability prior to entry into the program, and 13% of them had been living on the street, either by themselves or with their families. So we have a high risk population because of their mental health diagnosis, and that is increased when you look at somebody who's been homeless before or had housing instability before. So these individuals have a lot of risk factors for homelessness and therefore justice involvement.
- Tara Niendam
Person
So I just really want to highlight that, as Dr. Ewing has pointed out multiple times, which I appreciate, early psychosis programs are a vital upstream intervention that focus on supporting our clients and loved ones towards wellness, hope and a bright future. And so just really want to highlight how we are key and see ourselves as key to reducing future and current homelessness here in California. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Dr. Jonathan Porteus, chief executive officer. Le Ondra Clark Harvey has replaced. Thank you.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
I am not Dr. Porteus. He had to go to a board meeting, but I will try my best. I'm Dr. Le Ondra Clark Harvey, CEO of CBHA, and WellSpace, who Dr. Porteus represents, is one of our members, so I will read his testimony for him. WellSpace is an FQHC, federally qualified health center, providing behavioral health services to over 125,000 medical patients of all ages, 12,000 of which are uninsured. Services include sobering, detox, outpatient, and residential services. WellSpace is also a certified community behavioral health center and a 988 crisis center.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
They answer calls for over 20 counties, and they also serve as a backup call Center for 38 counties, meaning that when someone doesn't get a call answered at a primary call center, they roll over to WellSpace and then Dee Dee Hirsch as well. So Wellspace has had two full-time street nurses downtown Sacramento since 2015, and these individuals have collectively served over 25,000 people. That's amazing. That's how much work they're doing and how much need there is. This has never been a billable service.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
These nurses work off of grant funds, and so CalAIM really does have a promise of improving the billing system that has not been possible to date. WellSpace wants you all to know that street medicine, it's not a solution. This is a temporary vehicle for engaging people where they're at building trust. Taking care of them is needed, but always really, ultimately trying to get them to engage as a patient in a more comprehensive and integrated care environment like the one that their other centers provide.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
So people that live in downtown Sacramento have three centers to choose from. They're open seven days a week, and so WellSpace really focuses on engaging people on the street as long as they need, with the goal of getting them into primary and preventive integrative care settings. To date, plans, health plans, have had to set up kind of complete billing mechanisms for everything, which means that well space reports they're still owed for half of their 2022 billing. That's a huge debt.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
So a suggestion that they had would be more state oversight, obviously, on how money is spent so that plans don't have to create this type of issue with behavioral health services. WellSpace, like so many of our other CBHA members, stands ready to provide services regardless of the funding source. And really looks forward to the province of CalAIM and working with the Department and others. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we have Phebe Bell.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Again, thanks for the chance to speak to this topic. I am incredibly passionate about the humanitarian crisis that is homelessness in our state and country. We know there's a nexus between homelessness and behavioral health, and that individuals with behavioral health conditions are far more likely to fall into homelessness and that the trauma of being unhoused can trigger and deepen both mental health and substance use disorders.
- Phebe Bell
Person
It's for this reason that our efforts to prevent homelessness are so important, particularly for the multiple, vulnerable and disproportionately impacted individuals, including domestic violence survivors, LGTBQ youth, Black Californians, veterans, individuals with significant behavioral health challenges, like the clients we serve. We also know that the lack of affordable and accessible housing and shelter is the major contributor to homelessness throughout our state and that far more of our clients want housing than we have the ability to provide.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Last year, CBHDA surveyed our membership and found that in the prior year, county FSPs had successfully outreached to and engaged roughly 15,000 unhoused individuals into services. But we could only house fewer than half, around 7000 individuals. We were unable to house the remaining 8000 as our clients were either screened out due to criminal background checks or credit histories or more likely, we were simply unable to find a housing unit for them. In Nevada County, this has certainly been our experience.
- Phebe Bell
Person
In a point-in-time look at our 75 clients receiving FSP levels of care, more than one-third of those individuals had no stable place to call home, despite being highly engaged in treatment services. Our findings and experience were backed up by a RAND study released this year, which interviewed chronically unhoused individuals living in LA. They found that 90% of those interviewed indicated a strong interest in housing and 29% were already on a waitlist.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Again, in Nevada County, this point was driven home during COVID when we had access to new funds and flexibilities, and we quickly housed many individuals and hotels and had no one refuse this opportunity. We know that the vast majority of unsheltered people want housing. Our challenges rest with housing supply, housing stability, and access to housing in an extremely competitive housing market. And I just want to highlight what we've been doing in Nevada County because I think it's symbolic of what's happening throughout the state.
- Phebe Bell
Person
There's been a lot of great resources coming to the table over the past few years, and counties are working like crazy to take advantage of them. In Nevada County, we got a Project Homekey grant that allowed us to purchase an old hotel, which is on its way to becoming 20 units of permanent housing.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We got a No Place Like Home grant that allowed us to build 40 units of housing, 12 of which are for people with serious mental illness, all of which are for people exiting street homelessness. We got a community services infrastructure grant that allowed us to purchase a four-bedroom house for people with criminal justice history and behavioral health needs and homelessness. We got a community care expansion grant combined with a No Place Like Home second grant to create six units of individual housing.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We used our MHSA funds to purchase a four-bedroom home for permanent supportive housing for six more people. And we got a behavioral health community infrastructure grant to allow us to convert a commercial facility into a daytime service center for people experiencing homelessness. We also stood up an enhanced care management team and are on our way to serving 150 clients through that. And we are the recipients of an OAC grant to have a hub and spoke early psychosis program.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Through all those efforts, we are able to add 72 beds of housing for people over the past year, people leaving homelessness, and we're super proud about that. And despite all these efforts to add beds and services, we had 200 people enter homelessness for the first time in Nevada County in that same year. It's so frustrating as we all know. Beyond these investments, counties are also eligible to receive close to $1 billion in one-time behavioral health bridge housing funds.
- Phebe Bell
Person
We're extremely grateful for these dollars and want to note they're the only funds specifically earmarked to prioritize care court participants. We're concerned that the funding criteria may be overly restrictive. For example, if we want to use them for infrastructure, we need special permission to do so. But we're most concerned that not enough housing stock or boarding care facilities exist in the immediate to meaningfully apply these funds in this way.
- Phebe Bell
Person
And we're fearful of what will happen to the subsized beds when this one time funding dries up. We are really engaged in this work, and we want to be good partners, and we really want to drive home the clear point that the situation of homelessness in our country is not the result of a failed behavioral health system. It's the result of inadequate housing for our community members, and we're here to partner on making that better. Oh, and lastly, we also really support the CSAC At Home Initiative and all the other good efforts out there. Thanks.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we will hear from Dr. Ewing with the commission.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair and members. A couple of questions here around some of the rate issues. As mentioned by Director Bell, cost of housing, economic opportunity that is available in California for people who need to pay for that housing are key factors. Certainly, mental health need creates risk, as does substance use disorders and other factors. There's a range of research.
- Toby Ewing
Person
I don't have all that in front of me, but estimates are as low as 20% of the homeless population in California struggling with severe and persistent mental illness to as high as 90%. Some of the differences has to do with where the research was done, the definitions that were used, whether or not you factor in SUD as part of mental health, or you separate it out.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But clearly, this is a complicated problem in terms of the questions on the agenda that really lend themselves to the commission, particularly the work around full-service partnerships. As was mentioned earlier, we find these to be very successful. The history of full-service partnerships really were.
- Toby Ewing
Person
They were invented and designed here in California by some of the members of Dr. Clark Harvey's organization, specifically for the purposes of bringing people out of state hospitals and not only ensuring that they did not experience homelessness, but that they found employment. And the goal of the very first full-service partnerships were designed to actually transition people from dependence on an institutional system to Independence in the community.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Which is why the language this whatever it takes approach of a full service partnership, it is designed as a partnership between the client, the individual being served, and the provider, that the words that are used here really are meaningful. And it's full service that you can do whatever you need to do to help that person not be homeless. So the model is actually highly effective, and there's some historical work that shows that dramatic improvements in terms of lower justice involvement, homelessness, and hospitalization.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But we're curious, as are you. So if we have this highly effective model program invented here in California by very thoughtful people, and we have a commitment under the Mental Health Services Act for a majority of community service and support funds to be dedicated to full-service partnerships. Why are we seeing the numbers we're seeing today of these three devastating areas of impact, personally, financially, in terms of the quality of life and lifespan of the individuals that we are concerned about?
- Toby Ewing
Person
With authorization from some recent legislation, the commission is digging in to look at this. We'll be holding a site visit on April 26 here in Sacramento. You're welcome to join us to visit some full-service partnerships run by some of the members of the association. We'll be holding a public hearing on the 27th with some of the original designers of full-service partnerships to really understand what's working and what's not working.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so over the course of the next year, we're really trying to unpack the difference between what the concept and the philosophy and the resources suggest should be happening and what is happening in terms of the challenges that counties are facing in delivering this kind of care in a way that is affordable and cost-effective. I would say that we really want to understand what's working and what's not working.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And we do want to track the link between psychosis, access to that early preventative care, and not just preventing the negative outcomes of homelessness, incarceration, hospitalization, but actually securing the positive outcomes of family connectedness, of employment, of educational success. We need to move away from trying to reduce the bad stuff and really highlight opportunities to achieve the good stuff. It is really about securing, supporting, and promoting mental health rather than simply responding and limiting the negative impacts of mental illness. And we have a long way to go to get there. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we have Jacey Cooper, state Medicaid director.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Thank you so much. The governor's budget really reflects a long-term commitment to addressing California's homelessness crisis, including through the, it's late, sorry, strategic use of Medi-Cal, really allowing us to draw down federal funds for things that historically we've never drawn down federal funds for, especially so dollars like MHSA can be used for other things and or the non-federal share, but maximizing those dollars.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
One of the things about CalAIM is really meant to break down the walls of healthcare and meet people where they are. And so we're happy about these new initiatives. I won't go through enhanced care management and community supports because we've presented that previously to you all, but just remind you in regards to the new footprint of some of those services, and then I'll go into some of the other items as well.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So as of February 2023, we're seeing that there are 479 new enhanced care management provider statewide providing services to people experiencing homelessness. And as of Q3, over about 23,000 individuals receiving direct enhanced care management services like individuals mentioned earlier across small and large counties across the entire State of California. Also, all 58 counties have elected to offer at least the three housing support services in CalAIM, which is great and really important, the navigation services, the deposits, and the liaison services.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
There are 642 housing related community support providers in the state and over 30,000 people in just the first three quarters of 2022 receiving those services. When it comes to the expansion of street medicine services, recently, the Department of Healthcare Services released extensive guidance around eligibility of how to increase people experiencing homelessness easier to get into Medi-Cal billing. We released a significant number of codes to allow for more billing of street medicine services as well as eligibility guidance for our managed care plans and then an all-plan letter showing them how it can be easier for them to contract with street medicine providers to allow for those dollars to be easier flowed to those providers.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
I would also note that CHCF recently released a California street medicine assessment report indicating that there are around 25 street medicine programs operating in California according to their fidelity model. In this report is what I would say. The majority of those are located in Los Angeles County and San Francisco. Nearly half of all of the large street medicine providers are FQHCs. Other sponsors are hospitals, nonprofit providers, counties, academic institutions, and some health plans. Street medicine is also a critical access point for people of color.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
According to the study by CHCF, about 25% of patients have identified as being Black and 23% Latinx, as well as more than two-thirds of the street medicine programs diagnosed and treated mental health conditions and substance use disorder, and 60% having provided medication-assisted therapy. The majority provided primary care services while out on the streets as well and would note that the street medicine according to this study showed at least 57% having Medicaid, but also at other payers as well.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
In regards to the importance of people experiencing homelessness, not all being Medicaid. There is about 14% Medicaid Medi-Care. So are dual individuals as well, but a larger proportion also not on Medicaid or dual eligible when it comes to transitional rent, the governor's budget does identify transitional rent as a new community support. The service is intended really to cover six months of temporary rent from someone transitioning, transitioning from incarceration, institutional levels of care, as well as individuals transitioning out of child welfare, for example.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Really focusing on those critical transitions, catching somebody through those transitions, and paying for that six months of rent. Obviously, that's a huge deal to draw down federal funds for those pieces. So not only will we put a forward amendment, of course, if approved in the budget through CalAIM, but also offering it for our county partners through the Cal BHCBC waiver. So both counties and managed care plans could take advantage of providing that six months of transitional rent for individuals across the State of California.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
The budget includes $17.9 million total fund, 6.3 million general fund in 25-26 for that investment. Of course, that would require federal approval, so we would have to do formal amendments to seek that. The behavioral bridge housing funds are intended to really increase and provide services, intended services for housing for individuals with behavioral health services and experiencing homelessness. In February, DHCS released applications to county behavioral health agencies for $907,000,000.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
And then we will also be releasing applications for our tribal entities and partners in May or June of this year as well. A total of 500 million allocated in 23-24 and 24-25 will be used for competitive RFAs for the additional funds in both the summer of 2023 and 24 for our county and tribal entities to close the gap in services. Additionally, other programs, as was just mentioned through the Mental Health Services Act and full-service partnership, are huge opportunities, exactly what it takes.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Services are really critical, and there have been extensive evaluations, both at local levels as well as statewide levels that have demonstrated the success of those full-service partnerships. That being said, we would also note the administration and the governor, through his state of the state, announced some changes to MHSA, and we look forward to discussing those in a future setting to engage in those conversations as well.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nathanael Williams
Person
Nate Williams. Department of Finance. There was one question in the agenda about the No Place Like Home program, so I was going to go ahead and answer that for you. The No Place Like Home program is actually administered by the Department of Housing and Community Development, and it funds construction of new permanent supportive housing projects or housing units. The program actually measures itself as opposed to the number of people that it houses. It measures just the units that they've built. So to date, the program has built 6300 units. And if you have any other questions about the program, I'm happy to take those back to my colleagues.
- Will Owens
Person
Hi, Willow Owens, LAO. So we have no comments in particular on this item. However, we have a few recommendations specifically on the bridge housing as well as the Care Act that will come up in the next coming issues. So happy to talk about those.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Perfect. I'll bring it up to the dais. I'll begin, if I can, with Dr. Niendam. Again, it sounded as if you were stating that we're serving only a 10th of all of the early psychosis that we have expected for our state. That sounds like a tremendous opportunity for those other counties who have not chosen to follow up as there's only 14 of 58 to increase participation and just wanted to make sure those data points were correct and accurate.
- Tara Niendam
Person
Yes, they are correct. So they're based on estimates from a couple of different studies looking at psychosis broadly in both Medi-Cal populations and in commercial insurance. So we have some kind of simple models we're working. We're getting data from the state to do much more fine-grained models to look at where people are living and how they're coming to care or not coming to care, usually through the ED. But I think most people think that psychosis is very rare. It's just a handful of people. And so most folks are shocked when I say the numbers that are actually happening in the counties.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Dr. Ewing?
- Toby Ewing
Person
Well, I would just want to make a distinction between the 10% that are accessing care and the percent that are actually getting best available care. And so, Dr. Niendam, what is the estimate of people who are getting what we would consider to be evidence-based care? Because it's one thing to have access to a service if 90% are not even getting care, but that doesn't necessarily mean that 10% are getting the care that is necessary to result in the reduction, the negative outcomes that we're trying to achieve.
- Tara Niendam
Person
Yes, this is a very important point, and we've been very grateful for the partnership with MHSOAC and now DHCS. We have a partnership between UC Davis, Stanford, and UCSF to develop a training and technical assistance group for the state so that we can do this at scale instead of county by county, which is what most of us were doing before.
- Tara Niendam
Person
And so I would say that probably less than half are getting evidence-based care, even though people are providing care, saying that it's an early psychosis program or a coordinated specialty care program. So we've been working with our counties, going in and talking and helping them sort of understand what the evidence-based practice is and helping them problem solve based on the needs of their local community, about the best way to stand that practice up.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
It sounded like your testimony earlier stated untreated psychosis predisposes you potentially to homelessness. So what do you say to all those counties who are experiencing issues with homelessness that evaluating and looking towards an early psychosis program could help them to address their homelessness issue?
- Tara Niendam
Person
I think we could help them address many issues, and I can say we have partners in the room that we have been working with that have, in partnership, seen the value of what we do. I think, again, most people think of it as a rare issue, and once we start to work with them, they see how common it is. So I would say to them, give me a call. I'm happy to talk to you and help you serve your community better.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Well, and I hope there are more counties and not as rare of participation as we're seeing right now. Do you want to come back to you, Dr. Ewing? If I could, in terms of full-service partnerships, you said they were created for that transition from dependence to Independence, and it's whatever it takes that I'm trying to understand what happens when people are leaving CDCR. Are we using that enhanced care management to make sure that we're connecting them to all options that are out there? If they have a mental illness prior to discharge, are we connecting them to those full-service partnerships, since it sounds as if that was their initial intent?
- Toby Ewing
Person
Well, to clarify, the initial intent was actually to pull people out of long term state hospitalization, not actually the correctional system. It really was designed to. This was sort of a bet that an enterprising community provider in Long Beach made with LA County Mental Health, who was sending large numbers of people to Metropolitan State Hospital. And then it was expanded through legislative investment under the leadership of then Assemblymember Darryl Steinberg with AB 34. It's called the Integrated Services for Homeless Adults Act.
- Toby Ewing
Person
But to get your question in terms of folks that are coming out of correctional institutions, there's no reason why an FSP could not be made available. I don't have the answer for you of whether or not it's happening. There are lots of reasons why it might not be happening, linked to sort of culture and traditions around who's responsible for care delivery for folks who may be on parole or probation. There's long histories in the past where these systems did not work well together.
- Toby Ewing
Person
That's changing dramatically because of a history of investments that the state has made because of stronger relationships between local law enforcement and local behavioral health. Part of what's frustrating for me to hear is we're on the same team. Local law enforcement, local sheriff's departments, and local behavioral health departments are on the same team. The disconnect between county behavioral health strategies and what's happening in the jails or what's happening post release is frustrating.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And as Director Bell mentioned, that we've been providing resources to help counties do the data work, to understand who's in their criminal justice system and to link and to really reinforce opportunities to co invest. But that doesn't mean that since it can happen, that it is happening the way that's consistent with your question. I think full service partnerships are very much an opportunity there, and the state has not fully leveraged the work that has been done by some of our counties and community providers.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And we need to be asking very strategic questions about what is our capacity and how do we make sure that that capacity is most effectively used, and be smart about growing that capacity where we need to, but also reducing the need for that high level of care. Just like we might think about hospitalization or a rehab center and in the broader healthcare space, we don't want people in those programs who don't need those programs, which means we have to have appropriate step-down opportunities.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so there's a lot of work to do to really understand whether or not we're achieving our potential with full-service partnerships. And if we're supporting full-service partnerships through strategies like early psychosis, through appropriate step-down opportunities so that people don't leave a high level of care and then sort of cycle back in because we didn't have an appropriate step-down opportunity. The changes in state rules around Medicaid funding are very important.
- Toby Ewing
Person
There's an incentive for counties to bill Medi-Cal for services that are eligible when they're provided through a full-service partnership. We do not know the extent that counties are maximizing that, but we're also concerned that the incentive to draw down Medi-Cal may limit the willingness to provide coverage for services that Medi-Cal won't pay for because it means spending an MHSA dollar on a service that isn't available for a federal dollar drawdown. And so we have to find that balance in a way that fully leverages federal funding but doesn't lose the whatever it takes approach that goes beyond what Medi-Cal can pay for.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Director Cooper, can I pull you in? I'm trying to understand how you visualize or see ECMs playing a role here in interacting with full-service partnerships and the transitions.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Sure. So we've actually looked at this both for the ECM, just for individuals with serious mental illness, as well as for the justice-involved population, as well as for those experiencing homelessness. So if you think about ECM, you can cut across all of those populations. And one of the hard things when it comes to full-service partnership is all counties' approach it a little bit differently. There's not exactly one model out there.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
There's a number of models that comes with a combination of various mental health or SUD services, care coordination or ECM-like services, as well as the housing, various intervention services. And then whatever it takes, whether it's food or clothing or whatever it is, transportation, that counties do a great job of wrapping around.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So I don't think it's a fair coalition, a connection, and would love my county experts to weigh in on this, a direct connection between just FSP and ECM, because FSP to the points earlier, they're connecting all of the various pieces together. And so I think it's really about both a combination of services, that intensive coordination, as well as the other services that Medi-Cal does not draw down federal funds for.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
And so what, you know, one of the pieces that we're looking at within the BHCBC waiver, in addition to drawing down federal funds for the early psychosis services, is also acting and Forensic ACT, really focusing on bringing Fidelity potentially to the FSP model in certain ways. I think that there are opportunities there to maximize federal funds to do some bundling for payment, but it may not solve those additional non-Medicaid reimbursable services as well.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
And so I think that there are still future opportunities, but those types of things would need to be funded with MHSA only dollars because we can't draw down federal funds. And so our hope that you would be able to connect that. My last point before I'll turn it over to Director Bell would be that we're really hoping that those mandated warm handoffs from correctional settings into the community and directly with our county behavioral health partners will be able to tie better connections as well as future potential opportunities. I think some counties are already doing that today based on our conversations, but where we could scale that up across the state, I think there are other opportunities.
- Phebe Bell
Person
Thanks. I think you covered a lot of the key points, but a couple of things I just wanted to highlight. One is around that connectivity from incarceration to FSP. I think most counties do a really good job of working with our local jails. Like I said, we tend to be in them and doing the assessments and making the connections. It's a lot more challenging with state prison, and I think that's where some of that fall apart happens.
- Phebe Bell
Person
But also to add that population is also significantly harder to house because often their criminal history and their credit history are really hard to find housing for. So there's that factor in there. I think the relationship between enhanced care management and full-service partnership is still to be figured out. We do know that full-service partnership is a much more intensive level of care. And how does ECM fit within that, in this system of care? To be most effective and to maximize that resource is something that I think we're all exploring still, but it's a great kind of addition to the mix.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I will thank very much this entire panel, and we will move on to issue 12.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
It. Issue 12 is on the proposed funding delays for the Behavioral Health Bridge housing program and the Behavioral Health Continuum Infrastructure program. Director Boss begin when you are ready.
- Michelle Boss
Person
As a result of the state's projected budget deficit, the Department is proposing to delay 480,000,000 allocated to round six of the behavioral health infrastructure continuum program. Currently, rounds one through five are underway and the 6th round funding has not started. And so delaying this round, we think, will provide some more time for program staff to assess the needs, kind of what's the gaps that are remaining and provide some more opportunity to do that.
- Michelle Boss
Person
And then with regard to the Behavioral Health Bridge housing program, Director Cooper just went through that a little bit. The Governor's Budget delays 250,000,000 of the 23,24 funding until 24,25. Again, given the General Fund revenue decline that is projected, and then due to updated timelines, release about 50 million of the funds that were slated for 2022,23 to be spent in 23,24.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nate Williams
Person
Nate Williams Department of Finance nothing further to add.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Ryan Miller
Person
Ryan Miller LAO so, in the context of what Director Boss set up as a significant budget problem this year, first, with regard to the behavioral health Continuum infrastructure program, given the progress that's been made so far and that the projects are long term in nature, we thought that it was reasonable that the Administration looked here for a potential budget solution and also acknowledging Director Boss's comments concerning round six of funding and that it would give the state more time to really do a fuller needs assessment.
- Ryan Miller
Person
Now, relating to the bridge housing funding. Part of the basis for that program was to provide bridge housing options in the interim while the continuum infrastructure program and related efforts are underway and will eventually come online. So looking at the Continuum infrastructure program and the bridge housing together, we thought that it was also reasonable to delay the funding for bridge housing as well.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais. I'll take a moment and appreciate the LAO for your write up of this earlier on. It was very helpful for us and have no questions as we've discussed it in a previous Joint Hearing. With that I will. Thank very much panel 12 and move on to issue 13. Issue 13 is on the Care Act, SB 1338, BCP state Medicaid Director Jacey Cooper. Please begin when you are ready.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Hello. The Department is requesting two permanent positions and expenditure authority of 5 million General Fund and budget year and ongoing to further support the implementation of Care act program activities. The requested resources will provide training and technical assistance to county behavioral health agencies, administer technical assistance training activities for volunteer supporters on the Care act process retain an independent research based entity to develop an independent evaluation of the effectiveness of the Care act.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Additionally would note further, while the 5 million was a part of the budget Bill, junior and one time funding should have been ongoing, and so this is a technical correction. Happy to take any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance
- Elena Ramos
Person
Elena Ramos Department of Finance we would echo the department's stance on this and we want to acknowledge that the agenda includes an ll recommendation to approve only one year funding for this, and we see this as ongoing resource request for ongoing workload. We'll continue to monitor this program as it's phased in, and we appreciate the staff recommendation to approve this proposal in the future here.
- Elena Ramos
Person
LAO.
- Will Owens
Person
Yes, hello Will Owens. So we don't necessarily have an issue in this specific budget chain proposal, but rather we have, as stated, a recommendation that we're prepared to discuss with the Committee at this time regarding the funding for the care program as a whole. So just to kind of just set on page 82 of the agenda, there is the table that shows the funding for care program across both the judicial branch and DHCS.
- Will Owens
Person
So LAO has three major recommendations as it relates to the care program as a whole. As stated, like I said in the agenda, is that we would recommend the approval of just one year of funding specifically for cohort one. We understand this is a legislative priority, this is going to be an ongoing program and we'll need funding in the future.
- Will Owens
Person
However, due to the uncertainty of the program in terms of the needs, the number of participants, we believe it's better to Fund the program for a single year to give the Legislature opportunity to evaluate the program as a whole and to better understand potential ongoing costs. Additionally, the Legislature may wish to pursue statutory changes to the program after the initial funding for cohort one. Related to this overall recommendation is just a couple of pieces.
- Will Owens
Person
The second recommendation would be to require interim data reporting for cohort one. So the CARE act does require a fairly robust annual report for key program metrics and outcomes. But this report likely would not be available until after fiscal year 24,25 budget year deliberations. And so by requiring an interim report with a more slimmed down data requirements just to give the Legislature more information, more data as it's preparing to approve ongoing costs for the program.
- Will Owens
Person
And then additionally, we recommend that the Legislature consider specifying the process for the development of ongoing funding requirements. So we would recommend the Legislature adopt some trailer Bill Language that would specify the process by which the estimate for the care program costs would be for the ongoing funding requirements, and we would recommend using the data that we outlined in a previous discussion as well as in our previous report, to kind of give the Legislature an opportunity to better tailor ongoing funding estimates for this program.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Bring it up to the daIs. We're going to take your comments into consideration and just appreciate very much this panel. We will move on to issue 14. Issue 14 is on the enhanced Lanterman-Petris-Short Act data and reporting SB 929 trailer Bill. Tyler Sadwith, the Deputy Director of the behavioral health at DHCS, will begin when you are ready.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair Senate Bill 929, passed in 2022, increases the requirements for data collection related to involuntary holds, evaluations and treatment under the Lanterman-Petris- Short Act or the LPS act.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
This Bill now requires the Department to collect data quarterly and publish an annual report, including quantitative, De identified information relating to persons detained or admitted pursuant to the LPS act, and it requires the judicial counsel to provide data to the Department from each Superior Court that is necessary for DHCs to complete the report, and it requires each county behavioral health Director or entity involved in implementing the provisions to provide data as prescribed by the Department.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Senate Bill 929 is an important step in better identifying trends and characteristics in utilization of involuntary holds, evaluations, and treatments. This new data can be used to improve treatment and service outcomes. The Department is proposing trailer Bill Language to address two issues. First, the Department seeks to clarify the roles and the responsibilities of data reporting among the Department, counties, and providers in the LPS act system. The Department does not have authority over all facilities and individuals that are designated to initiate and implement LPS holds.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
The trailer Bill would clarify that data should flow from designated facilities and other entities to counties. First, counties are responsible for administering the LPS act under state law and designate facilities and individuals to initiate and implement involuntary holds. Then, from counties, the data would be reported to the Department. The Department would provide guidance to ensure data is reported in a standardized manner across the state. The Department recognizes counties may have concerns about assuming responsibility for data collection and reporting.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
We continue to believe the approach outlined in trailer Bill is appropriate because, under law, counties, rather than the Department, have the responsibility for implementing involuntary aspects of the LPS act. They designate facilities and individuals to implement involuntary holds, and they have direct relationships with the entities they designate to administer LPS activities. Requiring LPS designated facilities to report data to counties will also give counties the opportunity to improve data integrity by reviewing local data and addressing questions or inaccuracies prior to reporting to the Department.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Second, the trailer Bill would also provide the Department the ability to impose civil monetary penalties against both designated facilities and counties for failure to submit data timely. Without this added language on penalties, DHCs would be unable to successfully enforce compliance for entities that do not have contracts or are licensed by the Department. This trailer Bill Language would grant the Department the ability to impose civil monetary penalties for noncompliance related to late or incomplete data reporting.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
It would allow facilities and counties to submit written appeals and to request a formal hearing for any civil monetary penalties levied against them. This is proposed as trailer Bill Language because there is an associated budget change proposal and the Department would like to implement the bill's provisions promptly and effectively. In addition, the proposed trailer Bill Language is not intended to redesign or relitigate the policy.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Rather, the Department and the author's office, Senator Eggman, agreed at the end of last session that cleanup would be needed to clarify how data would be reported to the Department. We acknowledge that monetary penalties were not part of the original legislation, and we are happy to review that proposed language with all relevant parties. We're happy to engage with our legislative partners and loop back for confirmation regarding the language.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we will hear from Michelle Cabrera, Executive Director of CBHDA.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. On behalf of the County Behavioral Health Directors Association, we have significant concerns with the proposed trailer Bill changes to SB 929 from last year. County behavioral health strongly supports the expansion and improvement of LPS data collection. Let me be clear. We actually sponsored two bills on this topic the last couple of years, which were authored by your Committee Member, Assembly Member Ramos.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We were excited about the opportunity with SB 929 as well, to really significantly expand the breadth of data that we're currently able to capture for lps. As you probably know, under the Lanternman Petra Short act, law enforcement is specifically called out in the law as able to place holds. Now, counties do have the responsibility for deciding who then gets to dispense with those, right? Do the evaluation, lift holds, et cetera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And the current reporting structure, which I think we all agree is insufficient, is structured to align fairly closely with the trailer Bill requests. Meaning counties are responsible for reporting to the state, and we are supposed to get that information only from designated facilities. But as you know, as an emergency room physician, we can also designate individuals working in various types of facilities. So it's not a facility based structure.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And if we were to revert to the proposal in the trailer Bill Language, we really would be taking a significant step backwards, which is not how we understood the intention of SB 929 in our negotiations with the author. Alongside hospitals and the emergency room physicians.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Instead, we presented DHCs with a vision of we're in 2023, perhaps investing in a better technology based solution for capturing data across the continuum of different stakeholders who really touch the LPS process, trying to digitize it, and really make use of easier ways to report this so that we can understand how many people are put on holds by law enforcement, how many of those holds turn out to be appropriate, how many people are put on holds in non designated facilities versus designated facilities, and what are the outcomes of those holds.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We think that these are really important policy conversations that we don't have the information to gather, and we certainly wouldn't be anywhere closer to answering if we were to adopt this trailer Bill Language. Because much like the state doesn't have authority over lps designated facilities, we actually don't have authority over non designated facilities. And we think that it's really important for the law to reflect the public's interest in the full breadth of lps and in terms of the fines. We are concerned with the proposal.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We expressed those concerns last year. The author passed the Bill, rejected the proposal from the state to apply those fines. We object to the notion that the state would Fund its operation of this based on those fines and penalties, and we think that the state should look at other solutions to more sustainably Fund this. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance
- Elena Ramos
Person
Elena Ramos, Department of Finance. Here to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Will Owens
Person
Will Owens, LAO we have not raised concerns with the proposal, but are available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais. Deputy Director, it sounded like you had stated there was an understanding with Senator Eggman at the end of last year about a need for us to clarify the roles and responsibilities. But you didn't mention the portion regarding the fines.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
And so I'd like to understand if the Senator has had an opportunity to consider including that at the end of last year and, um, if the Senator did not include, it seems like a significant policy deviation from the intent that they had. So I'm just hoping you can comment on whether there were those conversations.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Thank you, chair, for your question. The conversations with the Senator's office regarding cleanup focused principally on the flow of data reporting and the responsibilities for data reporting. Those conversations did not center on the monetary penalties.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Without coming to a conclusion today, I share some of the significant concerns and hope we can find a carrot rather than a stick to encourage our partners to participate. But with that, I will thank very much this panel and move on to panel 15.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Issue 15 is an oversight issue on the behavioral health workforce. Our first speaker is Dr. Janet Coffman, associate director of UCSF Institute for Health Policy Studies.
- Janet Coffman
Person
Thank you very much, Dr. Arambula. Can you all hear me?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Perfectly, thank you.
- Janet Coffman
Person
Okay. Thank you. Well, Dr. Arambula, committee members, it's my honor to testify before this committee today. Want to commend all of you who have testified today about your own experiences and your family's experiences with behavioral health. I think our family, too, is one that needs to do a little better job of telling our truth about our experience with behavioral health.
- Janet Coffman
Person
But since the hour is late, I want to really focus on the findings from our research that I'd like to share that I think will provide context for the committee's deliberations on funding for behavioral health workforce development. Our research documents that California is facing a behavioral health workforce crisis because the size, distribution and characteristics of our behavioral health workforce are inadequate to meet growing demand for behavioral health services.
- Janet Coffman
Person
Forecasts that my colleagues and I at UCSF generated prior to the Covid-19 pandemic suggest that California will not have enough psychiatrists, psychologists, marriage and family therapists, professional clinical counselors and social workers to meet demand over the next decade. And I would say that these forecasts probably understate California's shortage of behavioral health professionals for several reasons. First, the Covid-19 pandemic accelerated demand for behavioral health services because social isolation, bereavement, et cetera, triggered and exacerbated mental health conditions and substance use disorders.
- Janet Coffman
Person
And while the state of emergency is officially over, I think a lot of those effects still linger for people. Second, California has embarked on multiple new initiatives aimed at improving access to behavioral health services for which additional behavioral health workers will be needed. We've talked about Care Act, Children Youth and Behavioral Health Initiative, many of those initiatives today that are really important for meeting the needs of Californians.
- Janet Coffman
Person
And so within this context, we find that employers are having increasing difficulty recruiting and retaining sufficient staff, and that this is especially the case for county behavioral health agencies and the community based organizations with which they contract. And these traditional employers are competing with telebehavioral health startups that offer behavioral health professionals remote work and flexible hours. And the mental distribution of behavioral health professionals exasperates these challenges.
- Janet Coffman
Person
In many parts of the state, 13 million Californians, about one third of the state's population, live in communities designated as mental health professional shortage areas due to their low supplies of psychiatrists per capita. Shortages of all types of licensed behavioral health professionals are severe in the Inland Empire and in the San Joaquin Valley and even in the Bay Area, where supplies of providers are abundant.
- Janet Coffman
Person
Safety net behavioral health agencies are still facing stiff competition for staff and its poor geographic distribution of California's behavioral health workforce is compounded by demographic challenges. The behavioral health workforce is less diverse than California's population, which makes it difficult for people to obtain care from linguistically or racially ethnically concordant providers, which can be very important for forging trusting therapeutic relationships. In addition, many behavioral health professionals are at or near retirement age.
- Janet Coffman
Person
Data on trends in graduations from educational programs for behavioral health professionals suggest that the number of graduates is insufficient to replace retirees. From 2016 to 2020, the most recent year for which comprehensive data are available, the number of graduates of substance use disorder counselor programs decreased. So in this time of an ongoing substance use crisis made worse by the Covid-19 pandemic decrease in graduates of substance abuse disorder counseling programs.
- Janet Coffman
Person
Also little growth in graduates for master's degree programs that prepare people for licensure as behavioral health professionals number of psychiatry residents has increased. That's good news, but their numbers remain far below the number needed to replace retirees. And so, recognizing the need to increase the behavioral health workforce, the administration and the State Legislature came together and in the 2022 California State budget allocated 326,000,000 in General Fund Dollars to the Department of Healthcare Access and Information to provide financial assistance to behavioral health students and recent graduates, and also to provide grants to behavioral health professions education programs to expand their capacity.
- Janet Coffman
Person
And my understanding is that to date, HCAI has awarded 97 million to expand educational programs for psychiatrists, psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners and social workers. So I think this is good news that's really kind of put us on the right track to scaling our behavioral health workforce to meet the state's needs and to staff these initiatives that we're embarking upon.
- Janet Coffman
Person
However, the Governor's Budget for fiscal year 23-24 calls for reducing funding for behavioral health workforce development by 50 million in FY 22-23 and by 81 million in FY 23-24. And this is certainly understandable in light of the decreases in state tax revenue. This would really thwart California's efforts to improve the lives of people with mental health conditions and substance use disorders. To thwart our ability to implement these promising initiatives that we've been talking about.
- Janet Coffman
Person
Meeting California's behavioral health workforce needs requires ongoing, sustained investment of state funds to support educational programs that have a track record of training diverse students to care for Californians with greatest behavioral health needs. This just really isn't to put it colloquially the time to take our foot off the gas in behavioral health workforce funding. So thank you for your time, Dr. Arambula.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Dr. Niendam.
- Tara Niendam
Person
Thank you so much. So I really appreciated hearing that data about the crisis that we're in. And I know Dr. Jackson is also really highlighting this mental health crisis. So the piece that I would like to highlight is specialty care. And so not only do we have a crisis in General Mental Health Care, we have an even bigger crisis in specialty mental health care.
- Tara Niendam
Person
And I speak about this because I've probably trained close to 30,000 people in what it means to identify someone with early psychosis and how to refer them to appropriate care. And I am consistently disappointed by the lack of knowledge our own mental health care providers have about psychosis. People are shocked by the numbers, they're shocked by the outcomes. And that's when I really sit down and talk to them. I'm like, hey, how many days did you spend talking about psychosis?
- Tara Niendam
Person
And they were like, maybe there was one lecture, maybe. And I'm like, right. So the piece that I would really like to highlight today is that we do still have folks coming out of these training programs, many of them with master's degrees, far fewer with PhDs, but they are often trained to serve low to moderate anxiety, depression. And here we are hearing about substance use. I'm here talking about psychosis and recurrent mood disorders.
- Tara Niendam
Person
They aren't getting the training they need to serve the folks who are in our moderate to moderate severe programs, which are the folks with the highest need, who have the worst outcomes. And very few of them have been trained on evidence based practices for these illnesses. So what ends up happening is they come into an early psychosis program, and I have the privilege of teaching them about early psychosis. But I'm also teaching them just cognitive behavioral therapy. I'm teaching them basic coping skills.
- Tara Niendam
Person
How do you teach someone coping skills? How do you provide psycho education? And so we are basically retraining our mental health workforce to serve these folks. And that is a very big lift for our programs. I'm asking for hours and hours of their staff time to just train them in one of our component evidence based practices.
- Tara Niendam
Person
And so what I would really like to ask is for the legislature to think of ways in which we can incentivize our educational programs here in the State of California to train the workforce for what we need them to do. And I know we don't want to. I'm a Professor. I don't want people telling me what to teach or not to teach.
- Tara Niendam
Person
But I also have expectations and guidelines. I teach in a medical school. There are things I have to teach and then things that are nice to teach. I'm not sure why we aren't using those same guidelines in our graduate programs, our psychology programs, or other master's programs. And so I really want to encourage us to find ways to incentivize change so that we can meet the needs of our growing mental health demand. Thank you so much.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Dr. Le Ondra Clark Harvey.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
Good evening. I'm Dr. Le Ondra Clark Harvey. I'm a psychologist. I'm also the CEO of the California Council of Community Behavioral Health Agencies. We are an advocacy organization representing mental health and substance use disorder agencies that collectively serve over 1 million Californians. Our members provide services from birth to end of life. They run 988 call centers. They are federally qualified health centers, outpatient and inpatient services. They do it all.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
But when I poll our members about the top issue that keeps them up at night, workforce continues to rank among the highest. Now, my colleagues have already shared statistics that this committee has become all too familiar with. And if the pandemic did nothing else, it's shone a light, a brighter light on the deficits within the behavioral health system in terms of workforce, and especially for diverse clinicians.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
So, simply put, as you've heard already, workers need increased incentives for continued work in the public behavioral health system, especially when Amazon and FedEx are paying them more. My Uber driver on the way over here told me that she has a master's degree, but she's driving Uber because she needs to pay the bills. This is the reality that we're encountering right now. And as my colleague just said, training is obviously very essential.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
And as a psychologist that worked in variety of settings, correctional, inpatient, outpatient, et cetera, I had the opportunity to do that learning on the job. HCAI has a long history of creating workforce funding for trainees in particular. In fact, I benefited from that funding 13 years ago when I was pursuing my postdoc at UCLA Children's hospital. The stipend that I got supplemented my meager postdoc salary so that I could literally live and eat sandwiches during training. And I'm grateful for that.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
But I also recognize the need to ensure that we are adequately serving the entire pipeline, not just those who were lucky and privileged, like me, to get my PhD. And that took a minute. But we should also be investing in programs in high schools and community colleges. There's a lot of work that can happen there, and if we examine the annual HCAI report that was recently released. Amongst many others, it illustrates the need for racially and ethnically diverse trainees that mirror the clients that need services.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
So, in fact, in every clinical setting I've practiced in, whether it be outpatient, inpatient, correctional, et cetera, and regardless of the population, sadly, I was the only diverse clinician on staff and I practiced in Madison, Wisconsin and here in California. So once new professionals enter the workforce, we have to recognize what it takes to keep them there.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
So competitive salaries and benefits and the majority of their time should really be spent providing direct service to the populations that they train to work with. And we've acknowledged the state's efforts here, and they are great, but we just can't afford to burn out our workforce with administrative burdens such as varying paperwork requirements that detract from clinical care and create off putting environment for clients during their initial clinical encounters. Not many folks I know train to be a clinician because it's lucrative.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
They didn't go into this to make a lot of money. But most of these individuals are doing the work because it's their passion, it's their calling, and we have to make it easier for them to do this. And our state has not been the most friendly to out of state providers who look to transition their licenses to California to bolster our workforce, especially in times of crisis.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
So licensed reciprocity solutions must be examined here, too, especially since, as has been discussed previously, there aren't enough training programs and residency sites for psychologists and psychiatrists in California. Training is essential, and so as a state invests in building innovative programs and services. For example, we've today heard about the Children Youth Behavioral Health Initiative, Care Court, Full Service Partnership, mobile crisis, et cetera, and creating housing for behavioral health clients.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
We cannot forget that a well supported pipeline and workforce is essential to the success of these needed initiatives and most importantly, the clients that they serve. So I just feel like it's time to do better and bolster funding, not take it away. Thank you for allowing me to share this perspective on behalf of our members.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Michelle Cabrera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Michelle Cabrera with CBHDA. And we're really pleased to hear from Dr. Coffman, who analyzed the behavioral health workforce within the county behavioral health safety net. We were really struck by her findings. I will say we learned that already a third of our workforce are paraprofessionals. We had no idea. I mean, that's just a pretty significant chunk on the mental health side. For substance use disorders, 68% are SUD counselors.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And really problematic is that the number of SUD counselor graduates has actually gone down by about 20% in the last several years. We also have an extremely aging group of clinicians in our system, so we have just over a third of our psychiatrists, and this is licensed overall. So not just county behavioral health. And they're practicing are 65 years of age or older. If we don't get started now in making these investments, we are definitely going to be widening that deficit in terms of the workforce.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And then just over 25% of our psychologists are also practicing over the age of 65. So these are really serious concerns. We also have a forthcoming strategic plan to look at various strategies for how we can improve the pipeline and our workforce. We suggest in our strategic plan that we should start with the pipeline early, as in leveraging some of our school based programs to make sure that young people, particularly BIPOC young folks, especially in your neck of the woods, know about careers in behavioral health.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We think that schools need to tailor their curricula, as Dr. Niendam said, so that people are prepared to work with safety net populations and levels of severity. Right now, the schools are just pumping them out to do cash know, clinician type of work, very mild, moderate. The other thing is funding. It needs to go beyond loan reimbursement.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
There's a lot happening in loan reimbursement right now, which is great, but we're getting to kind of a point where we really need to look at stipends and especially if we want to diversify. Low income folks just don't have the money to float in unpaid internships. The other thing is supervision.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We need to understand that with all the turnover as people are getting recruited here and there and everywhere, we really need to emphasize supporting our managers and our clinical oversight teams, because they're going to be really necessary. Our county behavioral health directors, I cannot tell you how many of them I need to do a survey, actually do teaching jobs on the side. So they are working in colleges and universities, training the next generation of clinicians, and so hats off to them for that.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And then obviously, with staff recruitment and retention, it really does come down to pay, which means we need to make sure that the base core level of funding for the safety net is sufficient so that we can be competitive. And then over the long run, Dr. Coffman really needs more data so that we can analyze and assess over what our impact has been. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Caryn Rizell, Deputy Director of Health Workforce Development at healthcare access and information.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
Good evening, Chair Arambula. Pleased to be here today to talk about some of the things that HCAI is doing to address these behavioral health workforce challenges that we've heard today. So I'll talk about some of the things that we're doing. So our health workforce programs have three main goals and it's really around how do we serve medically underserved areas, how do we build a workforce that represents the California it serves through racial and language diversity and how do we serve the Medi-Cal population.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
So to achieve these goals, we're working across the continuum from the pipeline to graduate medical education. So I want to talk a little bit about the pipeline work that we're doing and recognizing the need that we need to build the workforce. So we have several programs that we're operating. The health Professions pathways program. As I've mentioned previously, it has established mentoring and support for students in high schools in community colleges to help them pursue healthcare careers, including behavioral health careers.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
Our next application, opening in August, will support building a pipeline for system and justice involved youth, recognizing the need to support that population. We also have a program to support health careers exploration, which is those hands on experiences to provide exposure to healthcare careers. Our recent awards supported approximately 6000 students to be able to be exposed to healthcare careers. We're also supporting a new program called the Youth Mental Health Academy to build that behavioral health pipeline, working with high schools and community college students, operating with a contract with Child Mind Institute that will recruit and support 2500 students throughout the state over the next three years. The next thing that we're doing is really around building that education capacity. How are we training more of the providers that we need to serve the population that we have?
- Caryn Rizell
Person
And so a couple of things that we've done, our Psychiatric Education Capacity Expansion Program, we've been operating for a few years that provide support to new and expanding psychiatric residency as well as psychiatric mental and health nurse practitioner programs. Our latest award cycle operated awarded two new psychiatry residency programs and six expanding programs which trains 45 new psychiatry residents across the state.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
And we also supported three new psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner programs and four expanding programs that support the training of 700 new psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners. Overall, with previous cycles that we've operated, we've supported the training of almost 1000 new psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners and 80 new psychiatrists. We know that we need more, but it's a start. We also recognize the need to build the social workforce.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
And so our latest awards added 835 new social work student slots in California, which established new bachelor's and master's level programs as well as being able to support those that are building those accelerated programs. Talking about peer and paraprofessionals, we operate our peer personnel training and placement program that over the last two years will train over 2800 new peer personnel.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
And since 2019, we supported the training of over 5000 new peer personnel serving in our public behavioral health system. But also needing, we recognize to be able how do we support primary care providers and giving them that additional training with two of our programs, our trainee trainers in primary care psychiatry as well as training and education and addiction medicine, a new program, both of these run out of UC Irvine to really provide that support to primary care providers.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
Also, our programs are looking at how do we support individuals in being able to pursue entering the health workforce. So through our Mental Health Services act and General Fund Dollars for our Workforce Education and Training program, we were able to award 40 million to five wet regional county partnerships that allow them to use those funds to be able to recruit and retain the workforce in the public behavioral health system.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
We also launched our recognizing also to build the workforce in the public behavioral health system is we had our community based organization behavioral health workforce grant that just recently awarded 134 organizations that will support over 5000 scholarship, loan repayments, stipends and recruitment and retention opportunities in our community based organizations.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
We also established our new stipend program for masters of social work, recognizing how are we supporting them pursuing their masters as well as they're on to licensing to be able to support with fellowships to support MSW graduates pursuing their licensure. And as was mentioned, the on the job training is we know that we need to do more of that. And so we have our new substance use disorder earn and learn program that we are just finishing up and we are getting ready to make awards.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
But that's really supporting organizations to build the SUD workforce with training new students to be able to support them with on the job and paid experience while they're pursuing that. And so we're excited about making those awards shortly. And then also we're launching two new programs, our Golden State Social Opportunities program and our Behavioral Health Scholarships program that will again support scholarships for students pursuing a behavioral health degree and agreeing to serve in underserved areas and the public behavioral health system.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
So that's kind of a summary of the work that we've been doing to address some of these challenges. Earlier you heard about the work that we're doing building the wellness coaches and recognizing the importance of building that workforce to be able to address some of the gaps, but also to build the diversity we recognize. We think that's a way to reach in and build that diverse behavioral health workforce to serve our children and youth.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
Because one of the goals of the wellness coaches was really to establish this role within the behavioral health framework and create a pathway. We want to recognize that there are peer professionals and community health workers and other master's levels. We want this wellness coach to be a desirable occupation for folks with an AA degree that then can set the foundation for a bachelor's degree and then could help them and support them moving to a master's levels later.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
Finally, I just wanted to share also the recognizing that we have our California Health Workforce Education and Training Council, which is really looking established in last year. The 18 members of this public body represent the community college, the CSU, the UC system, several state departments and leaders in behavioral health, primary care, oral health and nursing.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
And one of the things that the council has been doing is looking at behavioral health workforce and what are the things that they can be thinking about and prioritizing for the state to address some of our behavioral health workforce education and training needs. And so they developed a set of priorities and recommendations for us to pursue.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
And many of these are things we've been talking about today, that supporting scholarships and stipends to be able to support an increase in accelerated programs and how we can continue to support them to support the supervision of behavioral health trainees in community health settings, recognizing that that's a priority for us as well, to expand loan repayment programs to include faculty. One of the things we know is that we need to be able to have more faculty, to be able to train more providers.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
So how can we incent that? And then also just how do we build again the education capacity to be able to serve in our underserved communities and to streamline those educational pathways, including looking at curriculum models, credit for prior learning. How do we help people enter the workforce? I mentioned also the data with our health workforce research data center and as we're continuing to develop and gather information around who the behavioral health workforce is, where they are and where the gaps are.
- Caryn Rizell
Person
So, all told, we estimate about 25,000 additional behavioral health professionals will be supported by our training and 16,000 young people will have the opportunity to support to be able to explore careers in behavioral health. So we remain focused on our goals to build the workforce that California needs and happy to provide any more detail about any of our programs or answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Joseph Donaldson
Person
Joseph Donaldson Department of Finance no additional comments, but I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO
- Jason Constantouros
Person
Jason Constantourous, LAO. Also available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. I'm going to bring it up to the dais. I have questions I think I'm going to hold until our next issue on the proposed funding delay, as I believe it will tie in. And we'll use many of the comments here with that, except you're not on the panel. Next. I was really drawn towards Ms. Coffman's comments that this may thwart our ability to implement our initiatives. And so I'd like to ask CBHDA, if we potentially delay funding for behavioral health investments, will this thwart our ability?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Hi, Michelle Cabrera with CBHDA. I would argue that we have been thwarted. This is not a going to, this has happened. We are living it. We are experiencing it in real time. We put, I think, this report out, which shows significant gaps, and we are willing to share the gaps, understanding that it's a little bit of a risk to say we don't have enough staff for our programs and this has a significant ripple effect. Right. It's access issues, but it's also funding for the system.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Because if I don't have enough clinicians to bill insurance for services, guess what? We leave federal dollars on the table every single day. People don't get served. And as I mentioned earlier, in the day, people are very frustrated and they don't understand why can't we get more? Why isn't the system moving? Why can't I find the specialist that my child needs? Why don't they speak the language that I need them to speak, et cetera, et cetera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so we would argue that if we really want to live into all of the values that we've been talking about over the last several years with respect to behavioral health, we need to put our money where our mouth is, and we need to invest in the human beings who are going to be necessary to carry forward all of these initiatives. And I'll just say one more thing. Workforce challenges are totally solvable.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
These are not like, intractable problems for us from a public policy standpoint, which should give us a lot of hope. Right? We put the money in the schools. We put the money in the stipends. We promise these students a well paid job on the other side. That's the secret sauce right there. We will turn this around, and it'll be a little bit late for the people that are there now. But I promise you, if we don't do this, we're going to break something that's already pretty fragile to begin with.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
For Dr. Clark Harvey, if I can. We also heard from Dr. Coffman, that this is not the time to take our foot off the gas. Hoping you can comment. We heard about all the great work that we are doing, but is this the time for us to be delaying funding towards workforce? Would love your comments.
- Le Clark Harvey
Person
Is that a rhetorical question? No, it's not. Definitely not. I mean, like I said, it's been the number one issue for our providers and they're in the trenches doing the work and they'll do whatever it takes. That's what they've done for years, for decades, but they can't afford to do so any longer. And we can't talk, can't speak out of both sides of our mouth and say that we're invested and we have all these studies and this data that's evidencing this need and at the same time take money away or divert it for other reasons, so most definitely.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Not to belabor the point, but Dr. Niendam, earlier you said that there's 10% of those with early psychosis who are getting treatment. Do you think this is the time to take our foot off the gas and investments into workforce with that much need?
- Tara Niendam
Person
No, certainly not. And I can say as I'm working with the counties who are trying to start these programs, workforce is their biggest issue and delay implementation every single time. So I would agree wholeheartedly. This is one of the most important things we need to think about right now.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
For Ms. Rizell, if I can just real quickly, there was a youth mental health Institute. Neither of us had heard of that. So we'd love some information about funding streams offline and doesn't have to be here today. But you also mentioned a wet council and that was giving you recommendations. I wonder if we went to the Wet Council and asked their opinion on the decreased funding that's being proposed and what their opinion of that would be.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Good question. Well, I know that they are absolutely in support of the work that we have been doing.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
We'll leave it there and thank very much this panel, and we'll move on to issue 16. Issue 16 is on the proposed funding delays for behavioral health workforce programs. Joseph Donaldson and Matthew Aguilera with the Department of Finance will begin when you are ready.
- Joseph Donaldson
Person
Good evening, honorable chair Joseph Donaldson, Department of Finance. I'll be presenting on this topic. So, due to declining state revenues, the budget proposes delaying 68 million in current year and 329.4 million in budget year for various healthcare workforce programs. Included in the 2022 budget under HKAI's Administration. Now included in these delays are certain behavioral health workforce investments. These include the addiction, psychiatry, and medicine graduate fellowship programs, University grants for behavioral health professionals, and expanding MSW slots at public universities.
- Joseph Donaldson
Person
Now, while the budget proposes these delays, the Administration is still very much committed to increasing the capacity of our state's healthcare workforce. These programs will remain fully funded, but the funds would just go out later than originally planned. So the repayments for these delays would go out in 24,25 and 25,26 in the amount of 198.7 million in each of those specified years. And then in conclusion, we acknowledge that these are difficult decisions to consider.
- Joseph Donaldson
Person
However, the Administration believes these are necessary actions to address both the current revenue shortfall while also maintaining our commitment to our state's healthcare workforce. Happy to answer any questions you may have.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next. We have Michelle Cabrera with CBHDA.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Thank you. As we've been discussing, the cumulative impact of these delays is really that we will not have started on what we need to do to catch up to the current catastrophe. And so our request is for the Legislature to reject the proposal on the delays because it will take years to build out the workforce. This is a problem that is staring us in the face right now.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We also just want to highlight that to the extent that not only medical plans but also private plans fail to meet timely access standards, network adequacy standards and others, we can be held liable for failure to meet those requirements.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And we think it's really important for us to be able to be competitive in the first place, or the state ought to reconsider its policies around network adequacy, understanding that there needs to be an available supply of providers that we could even try to bring into our networks to begin with. And so we would request that the Legislature reject this proposal, move forward with this funding.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO
- Jason Constantouros
Person
Jason Constrantouros, LAO. We discussed our analysis on the proposed workforce delays in a previous hearing to this Committee, and in that analysis we noted that the governor's overall focus on budget solutions was prudent given the state's budget situation, but also noted a few different options for the Legislature to consider with regard to the proposed workforce solutions.
- Jason Constantouros
Person
That analysis extends to the behavioral health workforce initiatives that you're hearing today, and given today's packed agenda, we thought it would make sense to just defer to the Q A if there are specific or additional questions about our analysis and how that relates to behavioral health. I did want to point, just in case it's helpful for the Committee that there are two tables here that could be of help.
- Jason Constantouros
Person
On page 99 you can see the full package of workforce initiatives, including the behavioral health initiatives kind of in the middle of that table. And then on page 97 you can see their proposed delays. Again, it includes all of the initiatives, but you'll see the subset that's related to behavioral health. And again, just wanted to emphasize that the delays affect a portion of the behavioral health initiatives, but there are some behavioral health initiatives that would not be impacted by the delays. Again, available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll begin just by noticing that there are geographical disparities overlaid in the behavioral health workforce, and that exacerbates for many of our regions that are already behind, and leave that as an indication of where I intend to lead us towards. But look forward to the conversations with the Legislature and appreciate very much this panel. We will move on to issue 17 is on the psychiatry workforce pipeline recruitment, hiring and retention budget change proposal. We will begin with Brent Hauser with DSH.
- Brent Houser
Person
Good evening again, Chair. Brent Houser, Department of State Hospitals also accompanied by Department of State Hospitals Medical Director Dr. Katherine Warburton for this particular proposal and issue number 17, the Department requests a total of seven positions in 23,24 and ongoing a General Fund of 6.5 million in 23,24 increasing to 8.3 million General Fund in 2027,28 and ongoing for the development and implementation of pipeline recruitment and retention initiatives to sustain and grow DSH's psychiatry workforce.
- Brent Houser
Person
Specifically, this proposal focuses on implementing a four pronged approach to solving the recruitment and retention challenges of psychiatrists in the Department of State hospital system. First, developing a new residency program modeled after DSH Napa's experiences, but in a different hospital in Southern California, DSH Patton. This program will include cohorts of up to four residents per year and once fully funded, may have up to 20 residents.
- Brent Houser
Person
The second approach is adding funding for psychiatric fellowships across the five state hospitals in the system, which covers Northern California Central California and Southern California. The third approach is adding funding for residency rotations across the five state hospitals. The residents and fellows will provide a percentage of their time providing direct patient care, and the ultimate outcome goal being that the trainees ultimately apply and are hired as DSH psychiatrists. Our existing research and experiences reflect that providers have a higher likelihood of staying where they're trained.
- Brent Houser
Person
The fourth component of this proposal is developing an office of continuing medical Education and Medical Advancement within our clinical operations division to further develop DSH's existing education and academic efforts to promote best practices, engage in research and knowledge sharing amongst DSH psychiatrists, which will result in increased collaboration and morale amongst our current DSH psychiatrists. At this time, I'm happy to take any questions the Committee may have.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Dr. Warburton. Do you have any comments?
- Katherine Warburton
Person
No, thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Department of Finance.
- Nina Hong
Person
Department of Finance, Nina Hong. Nothing further to add. Happy to answer any questions.
- Will Owens
Person
Will Owens, LAO. We have no concerns with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
The only question. I'll bring it up to the dais. The only comment I really have is on page 102, the second paragraph. It states that the California Future Health Workforce Commission estimated that we need to train 527 additional first year psychiatry residents per year to alleviate the shortage of psychiatrists that we have. And to put it into context, we're currently training 198, and it sounded like we're increasing four.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
And are we making significant inroads into the scope of the problem that we have before us? I'm very appreciative of the proposal and understand we're focused on state hospitals here, but simply wanted to make the comment about the total scope of the issue that we're facing. With that, I will. Thank very much. This panel, and we will move on to. Issue 18 is an oversight issue on behavioral health issues in managed care. Our first speaker is Rachel Hoates. Excuse me, a peer advocate.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Hi. I hope you're both doing well today. I know I am. Today is a very important day because I get to talk to you. I'm sorry. Apparently moving like, exhausted me, so let me catch my breath for a second. So it is my intention to explain exactly why commercial managed care should cover more services for those suffering from mental distress. I'm also here today to thank you both for taking the time to not just listen to my story, but to consider my words.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
So, as a child, I wholeheartedly believed that I would never make it to 30. And this summer, I will celebrate my 31st birthday thanks to the care my family stumbled upon that was not covered by their insurance, but that I was able to receive despite this. My name is Rachel Hoates and I'm a survivor. So I'm asking you today to hear me as a living, breathing, and thriving individual who was given a chance at life.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I have no expectations that my words will convince you of how important it is to have access to all mental health services for those with commercial insurance, because I'm only one person. But I was given the chance to speak today, and I can only hope that my speaking on this issue will echo beyond myself. So it wasn't until the early years of high school when my life took a turn for the worse. I just started high school.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
From my perspective, I was just a young teenager trying to survive in a busy world, with busy people, with busy schedules. I went from a straight a student in 7th and 8th grade to a girl struggling to complete anything. My perception of myself then was that whatever I touched would fail. I was focusing less on my studies and more on the suffocating depression that almost drowned me.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
But I didn't want to go back to how things were in middle school because even then, the pressure of trying to ace every subject turned into a cry just to be noticed, which morphed into over a year of self harm and suicidal ideations. I didn't know what my parents or teachers perspectives were of me at the time, but I do know that I was involuntarily on a destructive path that felt impossible to turn away from.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Months passed, years passed, and I felt like there was no safe space in this world for me. I violently lashed out at my parents. I'd throw and break things. I'd call my own family every name in the book. Talking things out was never an option. I preferred screaming, but my voice was lost in the chaos. Who I was became blurry and what I felt became numbness.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
My mental state affected more than just me, but I was too far gone to see that there was a rift in my family and in my relationships apart from home. At some point, my parents came across a program at the UC Davis Behavioral Health Center. I didn't know what it was then, but I know now that it was a coordinated specialty care program to treat young people with psychosis.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I still can't remember how frequently we met up or what we talked about, but to my parents, this program was a beacon of light. But my lack of trust and growing paranoia led me to feel like every person in my life was trying to change who I was. Like I wasn't good enough. I honestly don't know how I was able to participate in this program. Maybe the coordinators were moved by my family struggle, but somehow I got in.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
And I know now that if I hadn't been let in by these people, I would not be here today. My parents have always been hardworking. They both had full time jobs with great benefits. But those benefits did not include the specific mental health services that I so desperately needed. They both fought for me, and I have been so fortunate and lucky to not only have been a participant of this program, but the many other programs that followed.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
I may just be one voice today, but I want you all to know that if commercial managed care can cover adults like me or like children like I was, there will be more than just my voice here, fighting for a better future. And lastly, I want to address the people who are suffering like I did in November 2009. The psychiatrist I was seeing gave me a diagnosis.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
So he said that I had a severe psychiatric condition called bipolar one, most recent episode mixed with depression and mania, as well as psychosis, paranoia. And I know that's a mouthful. As you can imagine, this felt like a huge obstacle in the way of the life I wanted at the time. He also said that in his clinical opinion, I would not be able to hold a job or even handle my money because of the severity of my condition.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
But it was with his support, as well as the support of every person in the programs I participated in through UC Davis, that led me to where I am now. I can work, I can manage my own money, and my future finally looks bright. But I often think back to this diagnosis letter, and I wonder what life would have been like had I not received the care that I did.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
So please consider my words and help those who feel hopeless like I did, because our lives have the possibility to not be confined within the borders of our diagnosis. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, Rachel. Next we have Bonnie Hoates, family advocate.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Good evening. When asked if I would speak to this Committee today about my family's search for help in the early stages of our daughter's mental illness, I had to say yes. It is important to know the impact of your decisions on real people like Rachel and myself. And in this case, where early intervention for psychosis was and is still not available to families with commercial health insurance, the impact can be devastating. So I really appreciate this opportunity to share my family's story.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
As state employees, my husband and I had what we thought were excellent health benefits. We never dreamed that the life saving treatment our daughter would need was not covered. As you heard from Rachel, she was 14 and had just started high school, and from our perspective, she had all her ducks in a row. She was a 4.0 scholar she didn't mention, but she was an award winning musician. She played the flute and a very talented volleyball player with a wicked serve.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Within months, however, all that changed, as did Rachel herself. Once loving, high achieving, and focused, she became withdrawn, disorganized, and aggressive. She abandoned all her extracurricular interests, and then her schoolwork started to suffer. Once an avid reader, she struggled to get through assignments and had trouble following lectures. A's quickly slid into C's and then DS and F's. Alarmed, my husband and I met with Rachel's teachers, as parents would do, and the school counselor. Through our employer health plan.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We had her evaluated by her pediatrician as well as a psychiatrist, and we also engaged multiple therapists, all to no avail. We watched helplessly as Rachel slipped further and further away from us, ultimately falling into that dark place of self harm and thoughts of suicide. Desperate, we again started calling providers listed on our health insurance website and took the first appointment offered, which happened to be with a psychiatrist at the UC Davis Behavioral Health Center. I remember that appointment well in just one session.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
That one session, the Doctor saw what everyone else had missed or explained away for so long and right then referred us to an early intervention program that UC Davis was piloting at the time. Funded not by commercial insurance, but by a grant, this program, a coordinated specialty care approach to treating psychosis in young people, was able to quickly roll back the worst of Rachel's symptoms and set her and us on the road to recovery.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Years later, I'm still struck by how that one appointment literally changed our lives and what might have happened without it. So although I'm grateful, so grateful, I'm also angry. I'm angry that our commercial health insurance failed us and that it took almost two years of watching our daughter, our Rachel, fall apart, precious time in her young life before we found a treatment program that could help. And even now, it unnerves me that it was only by chance that we found the help she needed. By chance.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
How many other families like ours are not getting that chance? This has to change. The onset of psychosis can be devastating to a child. It jeopardizes their development, their education, their very life, and can overwhelm even the strongest family. Not understanding what is going on as your child deteriorates right before your eyes and with no help in sight, parents may blame themselves, each other, even their child. I know, because that's what we did. But it doesn't have to be this way.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Everyone should have access to this treatment if they need it, before young lives are disrupted and their futures derailed, perhaps permanently. I wish serious mental illness had never touched my family, but it did. And it opened my eyes to a huge unmet need and injustice. Really, in our commercial health care system, our children's well being and their futures are too important to leave this gap in access to life saving care. I hope that hearing our story helps to right that wrong. Thank you so much.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Bonnie and Rachel, your words have echoed beyond yourself. Thank you for that. Next we have Dr. Ewing with the OAC.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair and Members. Toby Ewing, on behalf of the Commission. I don't think there's anything more than I can say than what you've heard, but that story is repeated too many times, 27,000 times.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Based on the research that has been done through these partners at UC Davis, UCSF and Stanford and other states have in other countries, have actually established clear and explicit goals to document the prevalence rate, to put in place strategies to ensure that people receive care within a time period, often two weeks, six weeks, to ensure that we're aggressive in identifying needs upon first episode, first break. There's a lot of work to do. There's still some unsettled understanding of high
- Toby Ewing
Person
risk and what constitutes first episode. But California has the academic and research capacity to figure that out. And so if the state wants to make progress in the key outcomes that we've talked about today, again, this is why in my very first comments, emphasized early psychosis needs to be a focal point through a prevention and early intervention strategy so that we can actually get in front of the challenges.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And again, as you just heard, help people achieve recovery in ways that they can work, manage their money, and avoid all those negative outcomes that are too much the focus of today's conversation. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Michelle Cabrera, Executive Director with CBHDA.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Hi. Chair. Worldwide behavioral health conditions are the number one cause of disability, and they impact everyone from every socio demographic background. The role of county behavioral health as the safety net in California has really been to sort of be there to catch everyone, not just those who are low income, but our resources are stretched extremely thin, and I want to speak to a few different pieces. You know the early psychosis network that we have in the State of California was built with MHSA and Medical health funding.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
These are public dollars that invested in the infrastructure build out. And today, counties do pay in some places to provide that coverage to people with private insurance whose insurance plans won't cover those services. We have several problems when it comes to private commercial insurance. County behavioral health plans could add, alongside early psychosis programs, crisis services, for example, in crisis stabilization units, mobile crisis services, substance use disorder, residential treatment, school based services.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
I could go on in terms of the kinds of services that routinely are provided as a public benefit to some extent, and we can almost never go far enough to cover the whole population's needs. I would argue we should not be covering the whole population's needs, because that's not what county behavioral health is structured to do today. That's not how we're financed. That's not how the laws are intended to work.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
When I've asked our Members, why is it that you're continuing to provide these services to people with private insurance coverage when theoretically, under the law, their private insurance plan should be covering it? They turned to me with a really good answer, which is people will die. And so there's a huge burden, moral burden of conscience, on many of our county behavioral health departments that they need to.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Otherwise they will be confronted with death and dying in families and or severe life changing disability that ultimately leads to the very homelessness and justice involvement that we've been talking about. You know, from our perspective, that's sort of one core issue. We know that DMHC and Department of Insurance have been working really hard, that our parity laws are among the strongest in the nation. And parity law ensures that your behavioral health insurance functions the same way that your physical health insurance does.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So if you have cost sharing and deductibles, et cetera, and those things are a financial barrier or a burden to you, they will continue to be, and perhaps even more so for a person with a significant behavioral health need. I'll give you an example from your own district, the county behavioral health funded school based services. We often find that there are a lot of low income families in your district with private insurance coverage, right?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Their parents might be in working in farmwork jobs that have insurance, or they might be in manufacturing or other sorts of jobs. They have coverage. They just can't afford to access it, because with every visit comes a copay that their family is living so marginally that they can't cover. And so even when there is coverage in theory, in reality, it doesn't exist.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And we really have to think long and hard about what will we do to make sure that there's alignment across benefits, not just around insurance underwriting rules. And we commend this Administration for its leadership in this area. It does tie back to the workforce piece as well, because the more we press on private insurance to do more under that insurance framework, the more pressure that puts on the workforce, generally speaking, because there's more competition. But ultimately, the goals are the right ones.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And we really do need an expansion of benefits, not just stopping with parity, but going beyond that to make sure that people with private commercial insurance get what they need as well. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Jed Hampton, Director of Legislative Affairs with the California Association of Health Plans.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Good evening, Mr. Chair, former members of the committee that are not here anymore, Jedd Hampton, with the California Association of Health Plans, representing 43 Knox Keen licensed health plans in the state covering nearly 27 million lives, would like to thank you in the subcommitee for the opportunity to be here today and share some of the things that health plans are doing around mental health, both in the commercial market and in medicine.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Managed care first, I wanted to start by saying that health plans understand that mental health is an essential part of overall health and well being. We understand there's more we all must do to meet the increasing treatment needs of those suffering from addiction and mental illness, and we will continue to invest in the mental health of all Californians.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We believe that if we continue to work collaboratively in a spirit of shared responsibility, that health plans and providers, along with state leaders, advocates and other stakeholders, can bring California's mental health crisis under control, save lives, and improve the mental and physical well being of all Californians. California's health plans support state and federal laws requiring parity between coverage for mental health and physical health.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
As you are probably aware, in the commercial market, California health plans are required to cover medically necessary treatment of mental health and substance use disorders listed in the Mental and Behavioral Disorder Chapter of the most recent edition of the International Classification of Diseases or the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. We cover a full spectrum of all medically necessary treatments in all settings, including inpatient and outpatient treatment.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We do not limit benefits or coverage to the short term or acute treatment. If we are unable to deliver those services in network, we are required to arrange for care for out of network services for medically necessary treatment when those services are not available in network, and that provision does not alter the plan's obligation to ensure its contracted network provides readily available and accessible healthcare services to each one of the plan's enrollees throughout its service area.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
I wanted to also share some of the things that health plans are doing in terms of investment and pioneering innovative programs to improve the mental health of our enrollees. Specifically, health plans are working closely with providers to help members receive mental health care at many different touch points beyond the typical office setting, including by embedding mental health providers in emergency room departments and primary care clinics and offices.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We are also providing online wellness and coaching programs and free access to trusted mental health apps, which are not intended to replace treatment, but which evidence shows can provide significant relief to those with mild to moderate anxiety and depression. Health plans are also providing coverage for telehealth access, which has been instrumental for members throughout the pandemic that we just emerged from, as well as in rural areas.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
In fact, almost 40% of all mental health visits in 2020 were conducted through telehealth, compared to less than 1% in 2019, which is nearly 100% increase. And we've seen that continue as we've started to come out of the back end of the pandemic. We are also engaging in investing in antistigma educational campaigns to increase awareness and encourage Californians to seek mental health care and support when they need it.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
In terms of what we're doing in the public mental health system, health plans are also supporting California's public mental health system in partnership with state county partners and providers. Medi-Cal managed care plans are investing in shelters, services and housing to address homelessness throughout California, including some of our work that we did with Project Homekey with the administration. Health plans have established a no wrong door approach for Medi-Cal enrollees to quickly and easily access mental health and substance use disorder services, regardless of the delivery system where they initially seek care.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We are continuing to build capacity to provide intensive community based care coordination for enrollees living with serious mental illness, substance use disorder, or serious emotional disturbance through the Cancer management project, through CalAIM, and we are also working in collaboration with community organizations to establish programs that provide critical social health needs like housing supports and alternatives to emergency room visits and hospitalizations for those suffering from substance use or serious mental illness crisis.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We are also working to find solutions to address the mental health needs of children and adolescents within a wide range of innovative and collaborative approaches. Obviously, we've heard a lot today about the Children and Youth Behavioral Health initiative and a lot of the good work that's being done around that, with the state, with the counties, and with medicine managed care plans.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Some of the things that we're doing in that space are developing innovative programs that help equip teens with the tools to have meaningful conversations about mental health with their peers and their communities, including tips for active listening, conversation starters and additional resources. We are also working on funding school and community based programs by providing access to clinicians in middle and high schools and training educators to spot signs of mental health issues. This is just some of the work that we've been doing in this space.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Despite much of the work that we have been doing, I think you've heard it quite a bit today. Systemic workforce and provider shortages continue to persist. The 2019 Future Healthcare Workforce Commission study that you cited, Dr. Arambula said by 2028, Californians will have 50% fewer psychiatrists and 28% fewer psychologists, marriage and family therapists, and licensed counselors and social workers.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
So as a health plan, that's obviously a struggle is ensuring that we are able to work with, contract with, these providers to ensure that we have a robust and full network and our enrollees have adequate access to those services. In addition to that, nearly one third of California's population is currently living in a mental health professional shortage area. Once again, kind of goes towards the workforce issue.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
As I'm sure you're aware, Dr. Arambula and health plans are seeking to address that workforce crisis by investing in building a broader network of mental health providers and partnering with the state and county organizations to resolve California's mental health workforce challenges in communities across the state. So these are just some of the things that we're doing on our end to try to address some of the workforce challenges. Just a couple of examples, if I can.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We're additionally partnering again with the state and the counties to invest in a mental health workforce needs assessment in order to inform policy changes that seek to increase and diversify California's mental health workforce. We're investing in our own workforce within the health plans. So we're investing in our own mental health clinicians, recruitment, education and training programs to ensure that we bring enough individuals and providers on board.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
And also, health plans are offering scholarships and loan forgiveness programs to promote and incentivize qualified candidates to choose mental health care as a career. So again, these are just some of the things that health plans are doing. We understand that there is more that we all must be doing to increase the treatment needs of those suffering from addiction and mental illness. And we'll continue to invest in the mental health of all Californians working with our state, county and provider partners. I'm happy to answer questions once this panel is done. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we have Director Mary Watanabe with the Department of Managed Healthcare.
- Mary Watanabe
Person
Hi. Good evening. The materials for today's hearing have a pretty comprehensive overview of what the department does. I will say, having heard Rachel and Bonnie's testimony, that rings a little not going to. I'll spare you going through that in detail. I will just highlight a couple of things that the department is engaged in. First is our behavioral health investigations, which really was a response to what you heard earlier today. We have some of the strongest consumer protections. We've done a tremendous amount of work.
- Mary Watanabe
Person
We've been a leader in the country on our oversight of parity. And despite all of that, what we know is that if you are a person in crisis, you are left in the commercial market to navigate for yourself to make phone calls. And as a desperate parent or consumer, you often run out of options and then be either in the emergency room or paying out of pocket.
- Mary Watanabe
Person
So our behavioral health investigations really are seeking to understand what those barriers are, whether there's violations of the law or whether we just need something else or people need something more than what they get on the medical surgical side. You heard a lot about the Children Youth Behavioral health initiative. That really is an intent that for our commercial enrollees that show up at the wellness center are not told this is not for you because you have private insurance, go call your health plan.
- Mary Watanabe
Person
We want to make sure that there is an avenue for every single child and young adult to get care through their school setting. There's a lot that we're doing and still trying to understand. I will say as part of the governor's behavioral health reform proposal, there was a small item that may have gone unnoticed. But it's for us to work very closely with the Department of Healthcare Services to understand what is covered in Medi-Cal and where the gaps are with commercial coverage.
- Mary Watanabe
Person
What we often hear is if you have a behavioral health condition, figure out how to get into Medi-Cal. We don't want everybody going into Medi-Cal when you can have commercial insurance. So we really want to understand why is that? What are those wraparound services that support families and individuals that we should consider? Are those things that should be covered in the commercial market? Are there other parity, prior authorization, utilization management requirements?
- Mary Watanabe
Person
And to the theme here about the services the counties are covering for commercial enrollees, what do we do about that? So we'll be spending the next year thinking about that and coming up with a plan. So more to come on that. The question that you had for me was, I think something to the extent of have all these state and federal laws made a difference? I will say that they are very technical and they involve, federal mental health parity involves reviewing things like cost sharing and policies and procedures. If you are a person in crisis, none of that matters. This is about access to care and navigation and support in getting the care that you need.
- Mary Watanabe
Person
But if you look at the totality of the things that we've done at the federal level and here in California, there is a lot of tools that as the regulator, I have to send the message that behavioral health is critical to your overall health, that nearly $600 in premiums that you are paying, you are entitled to get the behavioral health you need. So I would say in particular with SB 855 and SB 221 we have really strengthened our laws in California and the protections for consumers. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we have state Medicaid Director Jacey Cooper.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Thank you and good evening. I agree with many of the remarks made by Director Watanabe. I'll just focus on a few pieces specific to the Medicaid side. We also have extensive contract requirements, auditing requirements, a few pieces when it comes to network adequacy and data reporting that I think we're doing where we're taking things to the next level. Historically, what we've seen in medical is some of our managed care plans will have large subcontractors with either other large plans or other large groups IPAs.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
And one of the things that will start in Jan. 1 of 2024 is that managed care plans will be required to report all the way down at the subcontractor level. That includes for network adequacy, including around mental health access services, as well as quality reporting. So there's full transparency, not just at what we call our prime contractor, but also those subcontractors so that if things are being lost, as we call it, the waterfall, that we have more transparency in regards to access.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
The other thing I would note is that CMS recently has announced that they will most likely be moving in a new direction when it comes to network adequacy for Medicaid, not only just looking at time and distance, in fact, they may actually sunset time and distance because they're not seeing that it's demonstrating true access, but looking at timely access. How fast can someone get an appointment for a regular visit or an urgent visit and moving to that as potentially the new federal standard.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Those regulations or proposed regulations are supposed to drop sometime in the spring to summer of this year. So we'll look at those and better understand what they are proposing on that side. They're also proposing things like secret shoppers. California already does many of these best practices. We have some of the best protections, as Mary mentioned, in the nation, but really excited to see where CMS may be going and what opportunities for additional enhanced compliance oversight that we can be looking at.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We currently look at timely access in California today, but kind of strengthening that and looking at what other states are doing, we're really looking forward to. I would also want to note that DHCs has also announced this year a special audit for behavioral health across all of our Medi-Cal managed care plans.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We also are seeing trends similar to our colleagues and really wanted to make sure that we were looking at not just the policies and procedures or the parity filings or the various pieces that you can easily show demonstrated compliance with when it comes to contracts. But really, what are the operational issues? What are some of the barriers? What are some of the other underlying issues that may be causing access to mild to moderate services?
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Those will be conducted over the entire calendar year of 2023, and we will look forward to disclosing some of the outcomes of those various audits as well. Obviously, the department has a number of other vehicles under our belt. We have sanctions and other pieces to be looking at, but at this time, we're still just collecting information. You also heard a number of ways of where we're trying to partner today on CYBHI or other pieces with schools. And we really look forward to working with DMHC in regards to the parity assessment across Medicaid and commercial plans.
- Joseph Donaldson
Person
Department of Finance, Joseph Donaldson, the Department Of Finance here to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, LAO.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
We're also available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'm going to bring it back to the chair. I'm going to uplift, if I can, the comments again from both Rachel and Bonnie earlier, Ms. Hampton, I'm hoping you can comment on their experience. Is this pervasive, this anec.al example? Is this consistent? We heard the Director say, if you have private insurance, figure out how to get on Medi-Cal. Is that really why you get private insurance? Is when you get ill, you're then trying to figure out how to get off of it? Is that anecdotal experience real, or was what you heard from Ms. Hods the exception?
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair. First of all, obviously want to commend Ms. Hods for coming and discussing this issue. I, I think, think those issues are very real issues. Those are human issues, and those things happen. And I think that, again, health plans amongst other providers, again, really need to do a better job across the board in ensuring that individuals mental health needs and substance use needs are addressed in the most comprehensive way possible.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
I will say, generally speaking, that that example is not one that we hear of often in terms of that type of situation occurring. And again, I don't say that in any way, shape or form to minimize the experience of our previous witnesses, because, again, that they are real and that they had that experience. I think it's important to note that as an industry, we've been discussing these types of issues for the better part of two decades.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
It's not something that's just cropped up in the last handful of years. Obviously, with the Covid-19 pandemic, those issues have become more pronounced. I think that you've seen it across the board, whether it's with its children, adults, I think it's really across the board.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Again, I think that the workforce challenges and workforce needs are so pressing because, again, from the health plan side as well, we are still seeking to contract with more and more providers to build an adequate network to ensure that this increase in demand for services is met with an adequate response. So I will say that, again, generally speaking, that's not something, that narrative is not something that's pervasive through our industry, per se. But again, I'm not saying that it doesn't happen.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
I think everybody in this safety net system has to do a better job of addressing these needs. And I think that starts with the health plans, the providers, the counties. I think that there is room for improvement everywhere in ensuring that we're addressing the needs of these individuals moving forward.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
I will say just additionally, if I can, Mr. Chair, we continue to work with every agency in California, with our regulators to the right of me, the DMHC, DHCs, CalHHS, and others, to ensure that we build that integrated system of care that we are addressing and catching those individuals who may be falling through the cracks.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We certainly understand that that's not acceptable, that these individuals may be falling through the cracks, but we would want to ensure that we're examining the root causes of some of those disruptions. That's things like whether there's availability of the right type of provider or whether we have to examine what timely access looks like or evidence that the services are being offered are effective and safe. There's a myriad of factors that go into those determinations.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
And again, it's not to say that we find it accessible, that individuals fall through the cracks, but we do know that there are gaps in coverage. And again, from the provider side, from the county side, there's been well documented challenges across the board of ensuring that we're serving these individuals the best we can. Which is why I think we believe that we need to ensure that we're partnering and moving forward with our partners to ensure that we have a more comprehensive coverage system.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll begin if I can. I just want to verify with the California Youth and Behavioral Health Initiative. The health plans didn't help to contribute. Even if the enrollees are receiving benefits, there wasn't a help to build out that system. Is that correct?
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Help to contribute?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Was there help with either infrastructure dollars? Was there help with the online platform? So is there any involvement of the plans? If your recipients are going to be receiving benefits.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Yes, Mr. Chair. Just some of the things that we've done in that space is that we've helped develop some of these programs working with the Department of Healthcare Services and the Department of Managed Healthcare. In terms of infrastructure building out. I mean, I would leave it to our regulars to describe more detail about what they're doing. I know we are certainly at the table with them, having those discussions with them.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
We obviously have a series of mandates within that program that we are required to comply with and follow. But I want to just be sure that I fully understand your question in terms of what you're asking, what the plans contributed specifically to.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Maybe I'll turn the question. It was only public dollars that helped, correct?
- Mary Watanabe
Person
Yes. For the online. So the coordinating, the setup of the CYBHI is with state funding. What the health plans will be paying for is the services provided to their enrollees through the schools. So you heard about the fee schedule that DHCS is developing. We will be issuing guidance to the commercial health plans by the end of this year that they will be paying whatever that fee schedule is for any services provided.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
The only other piece I would add is the school based link services to the Medi-Cal managed care plans is technically tucked under there as well in partnership, and that's where our managed care plans are partnering with schools. Again, really, the partnership around schools and the fee schedule, the rest is dominantly General Fund Dollars.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Correct, Mrs. Watanabe? We'll talk about it in the next issue regarding the budget change proposal, but I want to come back to Mr. Hampton's comment, if I could, on the systemic workforce shortages. Are we able to meet network adequacy standards, and if not, are we appropriately investing into addressing those systemic workforce shortages?
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Yeah. So I think, Mr. Chair, just some of the points that we made about what the health plans are doing in terms of investing in that workforce development. Again, we're doing loan forgiveness, offering scholarships, investing in our own mental health clinicians. That's what we're doing internally per parity laws here in the state, if we are not able to provide that network, we need to arrange for those services to be covered out of network at the network price.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
So again, while we are building up that internal infrastructure to ensure that we have a robust, adequate and high quality network, we do have the backstop and statute that says if we're not building that network out adequately enough, then we, as the health plans, have the obligation to arrange for that care out of network and ensure that those services are being delivered.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
And I really am looking for a partnership here. As the state is investing public resources, we're not solely responsible for addressing the workforce shortages and need our plans to play an active role. And so hearing how systemic the issues are, I think it's an all of the above approach I'm looking for and just wanting to make sure we have that level of communication.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I question whether we're meeting the network adequacy, since I didn't hear a response from you that we were, and that really makes me question why we haven't been making these investments prior to now. And I think you're saying we're doing some, but you also can't then say that your networks are adequate to deal with the need.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
Yeah, I think it would be, Mr. Chair. I think it would be. It's kind of a chicken or an egg type of situation. If the workforce isn't there, it's obviously very difficult to build an adequate, high quality and robust network. If we don't have a robust, high quality network, then we have the challenges of contracting with and working and getting those providers in network in an established, well run network. So I think we are absolutely, that's a high priority focus.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
I know with Department of Managed Healthcare and the Department of Healthcare Services as well. We are working in conjunction with the state to ensure that it's a long term, sustainable, high quality network moving forward. But again, we need to do what we can do to address the workforce shortage, to ensure that we can build those networks and have those providers contract with us. Because I should point out that even if there are providers that are out there, oftentimes they don't want to contract with the plans.
- Jedd Hampton
Person
They would prefer to take private pay dollars, don't want to be bound by the contract that is negotiated between the plans and the provider, and that creates additional challenges where we have providers who are out there who are just not willing to contract with us to build that network out. So it's certainly a multipronged issue, something that we're very focused on and continuing to work on moving forward.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Is there any opportunity for the administration to identify if this anecdotal example is happening more frequently? Are we shifting costs from private insurance onto public systems? How would we be able to track and follow that?
- Mary Watanabe
Person
You want to talk about that?
- Jacey Cooper
Person
I don't know if we'd be able to necessarily track. I'd have to think about that a little bit more to be thoughtful on that response. But we are seeing that there clearly is times when someone who otherwise has commercial insurance, if they're struggling with a mental health diagnosis or substance use, they can sometimes lose their job because of that. They lose their commercial insurance, and then they come on Medi-Cal.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We also know that Medi-Cal broadly covers a larger array of services and supports for individuals. And so sometimes there are strategic family decisions that have to be made in order to get access to those types of services. And I think that's what we're trying to prevent and partnering with DMHC on this parity initiative and other pieces, because we think it's important for anyone, regardless of their insurance, whether it's MediCal, they should have access to all needed mental health.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
And, and so, and also making sure that we are intervening earlier. At least in Medi-Cal, it's different. On the commercial side, our MediCal managed care plans are only responsible for covering mild to moderate services, but often the lack of those adequate access to those services are leading to a higher crisis of mental health services, putting that burden on our county partners, and so really making sure that our Medi-Cal managed care plans are stepping up to meet that need.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So we have a lot of examples of that. I'd have to think through how we could look at data in that way that's a little harder. But that is why we are all doubling down in regards to access to those earlier intervention, upstream services to prevent the crisis services, but also to make sure that anyone that needs access has access to those services.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Final comment, if I can. I'm going to come back to Mrs. -'s statement earlier. There should be parity between our systems if we're requiring it for our public plans or private plans, in my opinion, should have similar styles. And so I look forward to that policy discussion as we go forward, and we'll thank very much this entire panel. We will now move on to issue 19.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Issue 19 is on the augment of the behavioral health focused investigation workload, Spring Finance Letter issue. Mr. Southard, when you are ready.
- Dan Southard
Person
Good evening, Mr. Chair. It's Dan Southard from the DMHC. DMHC's Office of Plan Monitoring, or OPM, performs routine medical surveys every three years for every DMHC license, behavioral health and special health plan, specialized health plan. These surveys include a review of the procedures for obtaining healthcare services, their procedures for regulating utilization, peer review mechanisms, internal procedures for assuring quality of care, and the overall performance of the health plan and providing healthcare benefits and meeting the health needs of their subscribers and enrollees.
- Dan Southard
Person
In fiscal year 2021, the DMHC received approval and funding to conduct focused investigations of 25 full service commercial health plans regulated by the DMHC to assess whether enrollees have consistent access to medically necessary behavioral health services. The behavioral health focused investigations assess areas of health plan delivery systems that are not commonly assessed during our routine medical surveys. The DMHC anticipated conducting the investigations over a period of five years by investigating five health plans per year.
- Dan Southard
Person
During this process, the DMHC has identified three additional health plans for a total of 28 health plans meeting investigation eligibility criteria. Additionally, several factors have increased the complexity, difficulty, and volume of work associated with these investigations. Those factors include the DMHCs expanded the scope of the investigations to incorporate a review and analysis of the health plan's non-quantitative treatment limitations, or NQTLs, and this was a result of our engagement with stakeholders prior to initiating these behavioral health investigations, but after we received the BCP approval.
- Dan Southard
Person
This component of the investigation was not considered as part of the original proposal since the federal law pertains to non-quantitative treatment limitations passed in December of 2020, which was subsequent to the submittal of the original proposal. The investigations require health plans to submit documents, data, and information not otherwise requested as part of the health plan's routine surveys. Reviewing this documentation requires significant time and coordination between the DMHC and the contractor to complete the reviews.
- Dan Southard
Person
A significant amount of time is also spent with the special investigators in the DMHC's Office of Enforcement who have been conducting enrollee and provider interviews to determine barriers to obtaining and providing behavioral health services. Due to the significant impact of the factors identified above, the DMHC is unable to timely complete the focused investigations without the additional requested resources. Conducting the focused investigations is necessary to determine why enrollees continue to experience delays in obtaining behavioral health care services and identify noncompliant practices or barriers to care in a health plan's delivery system.
- Dan Southard
Person
The DMHC's Office of Plan Monitoring is requesting eight positions at approximately $3 million in fiscal year 23-24, decreasing to $2.9 million in fiscal year 24-25 and annually thereafter from the Managed Care Fund to continue and complete the focused behavioral health investigations and to incorporate long range behavioral health focus assessments into our routine medical surveys. This request includes consulting funding of $1.3 million annually for a statistical and clinical consultant to assist in identifying behavioral health compliance issues and conducting the investigations. That concludes my overview. More than happy to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Joseph Donaldson
Person
Department of Finance. No additional comments, but can answer any questions. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Jason Constantouros
Person
We have not raised concerns with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll bring it up to the dais. First, if I can, do you have confidence with this BCP that you'll be able to get to the five behavioral health plan evaluations per year that you're expecting?
- Dan Southard
Person
Yes. We grossly underestimated the workload in our first proposal. We have sufficient resources in our office of enforcement, but didn't request enough resources in our Office of Plan Monitoring.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
My understanding is these are for the routine surveys. Will this assist or help in the non-routine surveys as well?
- Dan Southard
Person
So this request is specifically for behavioral health investigations over the first five years to complete the 28 health plans, and then we will roll this workload into our routine medical surveys. A non-routine medical survey is if we are alerted to an egregious act by a health plan, we can conduct a non-routine survey.
- Dan Southard
Person
And the difference between that and a routine survey is the health plan pays for us to conduct a non-routine survey, but it's a specific issue that's been brought to our attention, maybe through a whistleblower complaint or through our state colleagues.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Is there an appropriate amount of time for those non-routine surveys to be conducted? Since it would seem that you're able to conclude a behavioral health plan assessment within a 12 month period, why are there certain private insurance plans that have longer timelines for non-routine surveys?
- Dan Southard
Person
So it's a good question. We are not conducting these currently in the 12 month period, which is why we're coming back for the additional resources. We anticipate our first year five health plan investigations to produce those reports publicly in the next quarter. So it is taking us more than 12 months currently to conduct these behavioral health investigations.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
If the plans are paying for the non-routine surveys, shouldn't we then be increasing how much we're charging to make sure we can get these in a timely fashion? Shouldn't there be similar timelines that we're doing with the behavioral health evaluations or do we not think that the whistleblower complaints are sufficient reason for us to complete these in a timely fashion.
- Dan Southard
Person
Sorry. The non-routine surveys generally take about 18 months. It depends on the issue that we're looking at and how many issues we're looking into, how many files the size of a health plan depends on how many files we need to review, how many policies and procedures we need to review. So I'm stating generally it takes about 18 months. It could be a little shorter, depending on the issues, maybe a tad bit longer if it's a larger health plan with multiple issues in a non-routine survey.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
And I hope what you're hearing from us is support for the BCP and wanting to ensure that we are able to complete these studies. It's simply questioning whether we're doing it at a fast enough time frame to make sure we have information so we can then make workforce decisions...
- Dan Southard
Person
Correct.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
To build out networks.
- Dan Southard
Person
I am hearing your concerns, and that's why we're requesting this is to speed up our behavioral health investigations, get us back on track to the five per year.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will thank very much this panel, and we will move on to item issue 19. Excuse me, issue 20. Issue 20 is an oversight on the behavioral health components of CalAIM. I have Ms. Cooper up first? Ms. Cooper? Oh, sorry. It's all good. Please continue.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll take that as a compliment.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
It would be a compliment. Good afternoon. Good evening, Chair. Happy to provide an overview and implementation updates on behavioral health components of CalAIM. Today, nearly one in 20 California adults lives with a serious mental illness and more than twice as many have substance use disorder. To improve access to care and member experience and provider experience, CalAIM includes over a dozen behavioral health policy initiatives. We continue to roll out and to oversee the implementation of these CalAIM behavioral health policy changes.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
We'll highlight a few initiatives right now in our remarks and happy to answer questions about others as needed. Updated access criteria for specialty mental health services went into effect January 2022. This guidance clarifies that specialty mental health services can be provided during the assessment period, including before a diagnosis is made. It establishes further alignment with federal early and periodic screening, diagnosis, and treatment requirements. It streamlines medical necessity. It establishes access criteria for specialty mental health services, including trauma informed access for children and youth under 21.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Also in January of last year, the Department implemented a variety of improvements and policy updates to our drug Medi-Cal organized delivery system. On July 1 of 2022, no wrong door policies were implemented to ensure individuals can access needed behavioral health services, no matter what door they come through. No matter the delivery system they initially seek care. Under no wrong door, Medi-Cal members are able to receive mental health services during the assessment process, even before a diagnosis is established.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
No wrong door clarifies, there is no wrong primary diagnosis, and members can receive mental health services even if they have a co-occurring substance use disorder and vice versa. No wrong door permits concurrent treatment so individuals can receive both non-specialty mental health services through their Medi-Cal managed care plan and specialty mental health services through their county, provided those services are coordinated and not duplicative.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
In July 1 of last year, the Department also implemented documentation reform policies to streamline and standardize clinical documentation requirements across specialty mental health, drug Medi-Cal, and drug Medi-Cal organized delivery system. I'd like to highlight that while the Department issued guidance that effectively streamlined Medi-Cal clinical documentation requirements, there are several intersecting federal requirements pertaining to clinical documentation that continue to pose challenges for our providers. We are actively seeking federal approval to waive these requirements and to fully achieve the goal of documentation reform.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
We continue to work closely with our stakeholders and our key partners to address implementation concerns in this area. We plan to issue updated guidance this year that will clarify, further simplify, and further streamline clinical documentation for behavioral health. One more CalAIM policy update for behavioral health that has gone into effect is the Medi-Cal Managed Care Plan and county mental health plan screening and transition of care tools for adults and youth. This went live in January of this year.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
These screening tools provide a brief set of standardized questions to determine the most appropriate delivery system for an initial referral and for an initial assessment for members who contact their managed care plan or their county seeking mental health services. The transition of care tool is used to support timely and coordinated care as members move in between those delivery systems. These tools were developed over a two year period with robust stakeholder engagement.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
This included stakeholder working groups and multiple rounds of testing with Medi-Cal managed care plans and counties. Field testing shows positive results, including high member satisfaction, quick and rapid administration, the ability to implement these tools for staff with varied training levels and credentials, and they resulted in confidence in the appropriateness of the referrals. The next CalAIM behavioral health initiative that will be implemented is behavioral health payment reform, scheduled to go into effect July of this year.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
The goal is to reform behavioral health payment methodologies with the goal of incentivizing quality, providing additional investment and flexibility in the county behavioral health delivery system, and reducing administrative burden on counties and providers while providing additional data on the types of services provided. We will provide more information on this in issue 22. The Department recently solicited feedback on a final CalAIM behavioral health policy initiative, which is behavioral health administrative integration, which will be implemented between now and 2027.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Administrative integration builds on CalAIM policy improvements that are really already in place to further improve coordinated care for members with co-occurring mental health and substance use disorder by effectively combining the Medi-Cal mental health program and the substance use disorder program into one single behavioral health program within each county. By 2027, the state and all counties will administratively integrate specialty mental health services and specialty substance use disorder services into a single state county contract.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
The goal is really to improve health outcomes and the beneficiary experience by reducing administrative complexity and burden. As noted in the hearing agenda, a total of $86 million has been made available to county behavioral health agencies through the Behavioral Health Quality Improvement program to support the implementation of CalAIM behavioral health initiatives. This funding is available over three years, beginning in fiscal year 21-22.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
To provide technical assistance to our county and provider partners, the Department launched transformational webinars and web based documentation videos and guides, formal guidance, comprehensive FAQs, and weekly office hours. To date, over 90,000 training courses have been completed by county staff and by provider staff. The Department is focused on monitoring performance of the implementation of key CalAIM initiatives, particularly the access criteria for specialty mental health services, no wrong door, and the screening and transition tools.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
County contracts are updated to hold counties accountable for these new requirements. This enables the Department to incorporate new CalAIM policies into existing monitoring protocols, including annual compliance reviews, and to impose corrective action as needed for identified deficiencies. In addition, the Department has developed a performance monitoring plan for the rollout of these new initiatives. The Department is producing data analytics to assess early and medium term implementation of these initiatives.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
In addition, the Department plans to conduct surveys and interviews with county mental health plans, Medi-Cal managed care plans, and members, consumers to gain more insight into plan experience and the member experience for these changes. We are also collecting and reviewing relevant policies and procedures, updating memorandums of understanding between counties and the Medi-Cal managed care plans, and using behavioral health quality improvement program data to better understand our findings.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
In early 2024, the Department plans to develop and release a report for each CalAIM initiative that summarizes our findings. So with that, happy to provide any further information or answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Michelle Cabrera, Executive Director of CBHDA.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Thank you so much, Chair. Tyler did an amazing job of laying out the what behind our CalAIM behavioral health reform initiatives. This has been a massive overhaul of how we do business with the State of California and our Medi-Cal beneficiaries.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
I'm going to talk a little bit about the whys. When we got together in 2019, as CalAIM was sort of being pulled together, we were looking at what are the things that are really holding our county behavioral health plans back that are making the experience untenable for our beneficiaries and for our providers, and especially for the outcomes that we were seeing for the populations we were serving. And we identified numerous key structural issues. One of the core issues was that access criteria, right?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
It used to be talked about in terms of medical necessity criteria, and our clinicians were having to tie themselves up in knots to try to identify a diagnosis and to make sure that it was the right one, because all of our services would be audited to that original diagnosis. And it was really the gatekeeper between whether you could be, basically, funded under Medi-Cal specialty behavioral health or not. And so revising that is a real game changer structurally, over the long term. It really frees us up to be able to look at ourselves as a true specialty plan providing specialty care services, right. Regardless of what someone's diagnosis is, we're looking more at functional impairment.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
The other pieces we worked hard with the Department and with managed care plans to come up with those transition of care tools that really support the no wrong door approach and making sure that people do land in the right system regardless of their diagnosis and with the right sets of services. And then finally, the payment reform initiative is just really crucial.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Along with documentation reform, we want to shift away from a compliance mindset and orientation that really seeks to serve our State Auditors, sorry to put it that way, but more to a patient centered approach, where we're looking at the needs of the clients and the beneficiaries. And part of that is really supporting the workforce as well.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So our clinicians would tell us about how they felt like they had to document all of their services exactly in such a way, otherwise those services would be disallowed if they weren't done appropriately. We shouldn't be prioritizing paperwork that way.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And then in terms of the payment reform initiative, as Tyler laid out, moving from a cost based system which was tied to the literal mechanism of how we were providing the non-federal share for Medi-Cal services, will allow us to move away from carrying hundreds of millions of dollars of risk every year. And that's part of that auditing and reset cost settlement process that is tied to our certified public expenditure, tied to our cost based reimbursement.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Now, there's some security blanket and safety in cost based reimbursement. We're shifting to fee for service, which is old school in medical models and new school for us. But one of the potential benefits is that we really are going to be linking it to that better coding. And so DHCS will have a lot better insight into the kinds of services that we're providing.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And then in addition, we're going to be incentivizing more productivity among our providers, which means trying to get more bang for our buck in terms of what capacity we do have in our system. This has been a massively heavy lift and on an extremely aggressive timeline, and on top of a global pandemic, I will say. And so I do think we're asking for a little bit of grace. Counties, literally, I think last week, received the last of our rates, in most cases, for payment reform.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So for the first time this week, or last week, they had the ability to piece together what rates they would be receiving across all lines of business to do some modeling. And I just want to say that based on initial modeling and because of the very complex financing picture, some counties are very concerned about how close to the margin they are between the amount of revenues that we're receiving this year and our projected expenditures under payment reform and the new payment rates.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So the proposal to provide funding to support the implementation of payment reform is essential. We will not have the cash flow in many cases without that funding. So taken together as a whole, very hard, very heavy lift. But we think it's structural change that will support the modernization of our system and bringing us into the 21st century, or at least close to the end of the 20th. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Elena Ramos
Person
Elena Ramos, Department of Finance. Here to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Will Owens
Person
Will Owens, LAO. Available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais. Very appreciative of many of the changes that are being made. Wanted to focus on the administrative integration and the single statewide or state county contract. How are we going to operationalize this? What do transitions look like? Are we braiding MHSA funds? I'm just trying to understand.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Absolutely. It's very technically complex. Thank you for your question, Chair. We had just ended sort of a stakeholder input comment period on a dense concept paper that lays out the vision and the proposed phases for implementing administrative integration. The Department has identified 11 core components of administrative integration. Today, many counties are already achieving or performing in an administratively integrated capacity in some of these components.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
We're identifying that phase one is an opportunity for counties to voluntarily achieve administrative integration over some of those components where they have the statutory and regulatory ability to do so. We viewed this phase as sort of prime for 2023 through 2025. We are working with our federal partners to receive approval to allow counties to voluntarily enter into an administrative contract. These would be the 37 counties participating in the Drug Medi-Cal Organized Delivery System.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
So they'd have the option to actually accelerate their timeline for transitioning from operating a standalone mental health managed care plan and a standalone substance use managed care plan. And by 2025, if they choose, they could integrate those two plans and operate a single behavioral health managed care plan. We hope our federal partners will approve that, and then by January 2027, as established in statute, counties will enter into a single contract with the Department. So we're chunking it out into sort of, sort of functional components and working with our county partners on what's doable, how do we take this one step at a time.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Ms. Cabrera, any comments?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Yes. May I just say, how cool is that? But the really cool part about it is that we look forward to having one single external quality review process for example. Not having, right, now we have to duplicate, and it's the same county behavioral health agency, oftentimes the same staff, right, who have to go through very parallel, duplicative processes visa vis the state as our regulator. And so being able to streamline that will be a massive benefit, we think, to both us and to the state.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will thank very much this panel, and we will move on to issue 21, which is on the California behavioral health community based continuum, CalBH-CBC waiver. Tyler Sadwith, please begin when you are ready.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Thank you, Chair. The proposed California behavioral health community based continuum, or CalBH-CBC demonstration, seeks to improve care for adults who are living with serious mental illness and children with serious emotional disturbance. The demonstration has multiple components, all of which are primarily designed to expand access to evidence based behavioral health care in the community.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
In addition, this demonstration will allow the state to draw down federal matching funds for short term care provided inpatient and mental health in inpatient and residential mental health settings, including settings that meet the criteria for institutions for mental diseases or IMDs. This will allow our Medicaid dollars to go further. The Department intends to apply for this waiver in 2023 and, subject to our federal approval, begin a staged implementation in 2024.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Through the waiver, the Department aims to expand the continuum of community based behavioral health care available to Medi-Cal members, improve the quality of care in inpatient and residential treatment settings, strengthen the transitions and the discharge planning and continued care during step downs from these settings to the community, enhance county accountability and oversight, and support the implementation of new benefits through incentive programs available to counties, robust technical assistance and practice transformation supports that would be available to our county partners and to providers. Just to provide examples of some new services and activities that would be implemented through the waiver.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
These include expansion of evidence based and in home therapies for children, including children in foster care and with juvenile justice experience on a statewide basis, expansion of evidence based models, service models for adults, including assertive community treatment, forensic assertive community treatment, supported employment, and coordinated specialty care for first episode psychosis, which was referenced in four separate panels today. So under the waiver, counties would have the opportunity to cover these services on an opt in basis.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
The waiver proposes a cross sector incentive pool that would incentivize Medi-Cal managed care plans, county mental health plans, and county child welfare agencies to improve outcomes for multi-system youth, for children in child welfare who are receiving services from these systems. It would support the implementation of community health workers in county behavioral health to really help draw down federal funding for that intensive outreach and engagement that they can't bill for today.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
It would provide rent and temporary housing for populations with behavioral health conditions who have housing needs. And finally, it would provide counties with the opportunity to opt in and to cover short term inpatient and residential psychiatric care in facilities that are IMDs. And to participate in the opportunity to cover IMDs, counties would really commit to ensuring that intensive inpatient care is available and part of the full continuum of care.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
And so counties that opt in to the IMD option would be expected to, over a period, over an implementation timeline, over the waiver, to cover those other new services that I mentioned. So in the spirit of this late hour, that's a brief overview. Happy to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Ms. Cabrera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Good evening, Chair. I will also try to be very brief and to the point, but I'm happy to follow up on any of this. So we have some disagreement in terms of the projected savings associated with this package of reforms, although we are very much in support of the overall vision of the CalBH-CBC. So of all the services that Deputy Sadwith walked through, counties believe that we will see savings in terms of our community health workers component, as well as rent and temporary housing assistance.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
However, some projected savings with our IMDs. Because this is coverage only for short term IMDs, and because IMDs, that sort of class of IMDs that primarily will generate short term IMD savings, is relatively small, we don't think that the savings to us from that coverage will be as high as is projected, right. If we were able to tap into savings, for example, our mental health rehabilitation centers, that would be a totally different story.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
The other thing is that we believe that there could be savings associated with coverage of supported employment. However, that would only be for those counties that are currently delivering those services to Fidelity, and that's certainly not everyone. If a county decided to add supported employment, that would be a new cost. We believe that there will be minimal savings associated with implementation of act and fact to Fidelity as well as first episode psychosis.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And this is because we think that we're doing a pretty good job of generating federal financial participation where it's possible for those services right now. For counties that are not providing those services, again, act to Fidelity, fact to Fidelity or first episode psychosis, this will be a new cost for them to add those services. So there will be more cost than potential benefit there.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And then we think that we will also incur additional costs associated with required evidence based practices, which are not proposed to be funded. So overall, it seems that the amount of savings that we will have from the waiver may actually be lower than what the state is expecting, and we have been engaging with DHCS in this conversation and hope to do so more. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Elena Ramos
Person
Elena Ramos, Department of Finance. Here to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Will Owens
Person
Yes. Will Owens, LAO. Just wanted to state that, generally, we find this proposal does fit within the state's broader efforts, particularly around expanding behavioral health services. That being said, since we are still waiting for the final submission to CMS and what that final approval from CMS will look like, we can't provide a full assessment of the proposal at this time, but happy to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll bring it up to the dais. I'm going to appreciate the stated goal of the proposal and admit that, after reading 197 pages of the agenda yesterday, I then clicked on the link for the external concept paper and read the 40 pages that we're here in the behavioral health CBC. As I do believe you're on the right track, and just want to encourage and support. With that, I will thank very much this panel, and we will move on to issue 22.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
It. Issue 22 is on the behavioral health payment reform trailer Bill and cash flow funding. We will begin with Ms. Cooper.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Good evening, Mr. Chair. Oh, sorry. Did you go first? You're first or I'm first? Sorry. Yes, you're always first. Sorry, Casey, my bad. It's late and I'm confused.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
All right. Thank you so much. I'm not going to duplicate a lot of what Tyler just said regarding the behavioral payment reform, but it is projected to go live July 1 of 2023. I think there's a few pieces, though, I just want to highlight specifically, it also includes the transition of us going to additional coding system. So we implemented hickpic codes, which is very common across the various health services, but weren't often being used on the behavioral health side.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
The one reason why I flagged this is it will allow us to have better level data, individual data, more detail on the types of services being provided by our county partners, including the provider types. And so we're really excited about the new level of data that will come with this. We issued guidance around this in August of 2022. The county has been working to build that into their systems, to train their providers around that.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
That will be a transition as well, in addition to the payment reform, but just wanted to highlight that as one of the other very positive pieces of the payment reform transition, as well as moving to the fee schedule that was spoken about earlier. I think the one piece we really wanted to highlight when it comes to this has to do with the funding for our county partners.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Given the transition, this transition is critical and we will still have cost reports, for example, that we are reconciling with our county partners for quite some time, and they will have to be able to settle those interim costs, reconcile. Sometimes there's payments involved in that, and that creates a cash flow on top of the fact that we have to request the funds prior to, which is a little different than what we've done historically. So it would have a cash flow impact on our county partners.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
That is why we've requested in the budget that 375,000,000 General Fund one time use for the non federal share in lieu of the IGT's for the first 90 days of payment reform implementation, and strongly feel like that will help our county partners be able to move to this very, very critical and important change. So happy to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, Ms. Capareta.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Thank you so much. With respect to this request, again, we are super grateful to the Administration for putting forward the proposal, and based on the initial modeling that our counties have been doing. They are very concerned at this point that they will not have sufficient cash absent this funding in order to support the IGT transition. I'll say there are a couple of additional factors here that intersect, and one is the tax deferral, which is impacting our actual MHSA funding receipts right now.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so counties had planned around a certain level of MHSA funding, but with the tax deferral, we're going to be receiving, where we are receiving less funding right now in MHSA than we had planned for. And that is creating a little bit of a log jam with respect to our funding.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And we're concerned because in some cases, we worked really hard to try to make our fee for service rates higher so that we could support paying better, so that we could maximize the benefit of our payment reform proposal. But that means we're also going to have to front load, putting up more money to draw down the federal match. And so eventually we think things will shake out and they'll even out.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
But in the immediate, we really do need this funding to support the transition for payment reform and respectfully request your consideration of that request.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Elena Ramos
Person
Elena Ramos, Department of Finance we think this is a crucial component for the success of CalAim.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Will Owens
Person
Yes, Will Owens, LAO. We do find the government's proposal to be reasonable to ensure the successful implementation, or at least help the successful implementation of this process. We do find without the funding, that counties could face a fairly significant cash flow problem.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Good. Sounds like we're all on the same page with that. I will thank very much this panel and move on to issue 23. Issue 23 is on the Sacramento and Solano County's Kaiser Specialty mental health carve out. We will begin with JC Cooper.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Thank you. Over the last several years, the Department has engaged in extensive transition planning and good faith negotiations with Sacramento and Solano counties to effectuate the transition. The Department first announced this transition in October of 2019 when we publicly announced the Calaim proposal in March of 2021. The Calaim proposal was then again publicly posted for stakeholder feedback. The Department, in that update, proposed a January 1 of 2022 start date.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Given the conversation and various pieces, we did a back and forth, good faith negotiation between the Administration and the counties to transition that start date to July 1 of 2023. The main driver behind transitioning to a July 1 of 2023 date was to tie it to payment reform. The reason why that mattered is that the counties at the time wanted to make sure that they could contract back with Kaiser for those services at an interim time
- Jacey Cooper
Person
period to allow for a phase transition to effectuate the transition. That was very reasonable of a request and agreed to it with our county partners. Sacramento and Solano have had around two years of engagement.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Though I would flag, while Kaiser has participated over those two years in good faith negotiations and transitions, we have really struggled to get to the county partners to the table to really effectuate the transition and I'll kind of walk through the various pieces tied to the funding tied to this proposal as well. I think the other thing I would just flag is the transition is estimated to impact around 4,836 Members in Sacramento and 2,091 Members in Solano, respectively.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
That represents around 10.9% of the lives in Sacramento and 23.6% of the lives in Solano's membership. The state has acted to address the county's funding concerns with this transition as well. In January of 2023, the Department of Finance made modifications to the realignment allocations that resulted in increased allocations 11.6 million annually for Sacramento county and 7.7 million annually for Solano County.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
The funding should be matched with federal funds to support the provision of specialty mental health services to the transitioning populations, which combined brings the total of funds to approximately 34.2 million and 22.7 respectfully respectively, combined with a meaning about a $56.9 million going to Sacramento and Salano for the purposes of this transition. We currently only pay Kaiser $22 million total Fund for these lives today and have for quite some time.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So when it came to realignment adjustments, the response to the Committee's questions around the estimate and how it was developed and calculated, there are two components to realignment funding, total MediCal months and county behavioral health claims. Kaiser Member months were included in each allocation for each county, always included in those costs. However, the costs associated with the population claims were not included because Sacramento and Solana were not providing those claims.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Given that we had included the population in their historical funding for realignment, but not the cost to the claims, the Department agreed to go back and do an assessment of what that would look like. We went back to the 2016,17 time period to adjust to make sure that it would accumulate over time and not just this one time within this year. We worked very closely with the counties to identify the populations. We agreed to that.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We also applied their standard realignment PMPM to that methodology to come up with what the current would be on a rolling and cumulative basis to what they would have been paid. And that was the 19 million I mentioned earlier. And so we've had those extensive around the question around the total percent or impact to other counties. What we would say is the Department notes that it represents 0.9% of the total realignment revenues, and so we felt like this was an appropriate adjustment.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Additionally, the Department evaluated both Sacramento and Solano's network adequacy and staffing based on the filings with the Department, based on their projected ability to provide services as well as the utilization coming in. Both Sacramento and Solano broadly had a network adequacy within their network's filings with the Department to be able to provide access to these services. I would say there was one exception, and that was Sacramento county, where we did say that they see that they needed to increase their psychiatric services for children and youth.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Based on this adjustment, the Department reached out directly to Sacramento to see if we could work on what we could do to transition or fix that issue, and Sacramento did not engage with the Department in regards to those conversations and discussions. Given the lack of engagement, we did issue a letter to both Sacramento and Solano on March 1 of 2023 asking if they are committing to the July 1 transition.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Given the engagement, they responded back with the letter and then we met and ultimately they said that they could not agree to the July 1 transition, dominantly focus on the funding that was being requested. We agreed that we want these services to transition to Sacramento and
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Solana we are hoping that we can come to agreement on that in the near future, sooner the better, but we had to essentially move forward to procure and really secure, I think is a better word, don't take the word procure the wrong way, but secure Kaiser to maintain providing these services. We had already given Kaiser due notice that we were transitioning the services. So we are currently working directly with Kaiser to have them continue to provide services after July 1.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
We're hoping we can come to a resolution with our county partners. Our intent is for them to continue to provide services for these beneficiaries. However, we haven't been able to essentially land there yet, but we are committed to continue to working with our counties to eventually transition these lives to the counties, and happy to answer any questions when the time comes.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Ms. Cabrera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Cabrera thank you so much Chair. So of all of the various pieces of the Calais reform, which we are very excited about working really well in partnership with the state around, this is the one where I think we obviously have hit some speed bumps. Kaiser services for specialty mental health are only carved in, in these two counties, Solano and Sacramento. And luckily, I get to present on behalf of both of our counties. So hopefully that'll streamline our presentation tonight.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
I will say counties have been really engaged in this process to the extent that when we first learned about this proposal, counties said, we need three things from the state. We need to know how many people will be transitioning, how we will be expected to pay for these expanded services, and then will we have sufficient information and time to build out the appropriate and connected network of services?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
On the question of how many people would transition, we learned pretty early on that it was difficult for Kaiser to estimate this because they don't distinguish around severity of need for their beneficiaries. And so in order to make sure that we had what we needed in terms of an estimate, it was actually Sacramento county that decided to do a rough estimate based on the proportion of Medi Cal beneficiaries from their other four contracted medi Cal managed care plans who are seen in county behavioral health.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
But all that gave us was really a ballpark, right? We're going based on averages, not real actual patients served in Kaiser in these two counties. And so it was based on that ballpark estimate that we were able to come up with a ballpark funding estimate to say, this is how much funding we think we would need. But we still don't know, even today, who are these people? Right? Are they children? Are they system involved children? Do they need inpatient? Do they need residential?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And this kind of information is really crucial because unless we know exactly who's coming, we don't know what kinds of services to procure, whether it's from Kaiser or from any other contractors in our communities. And that question of Kaiser contracting is important. My understanding is that Kaiser is not necessarily fond or open to the idea of having to meet all of the specialty behavioral health criteria for providing services. We have unique criteria that come along with the delivery of our services.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so there's kind of an open question there. Regardless, we know it would take time. And we also were very insistent and have been all along that this is a transition that needs to be funded. We can't just absorb thousands of new beneficiaries in each of these counties without impacting access for both the Kaiser beneficiaries who will be transitioning, as well as our existing clients. Right. We're very concerned about having sufficient capacity without any new funding. How were we supposed to do that?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so we had asked the state to look at, could they redirect a portion of the funding that they were sending to Kaiser for this right, to bring down the cost to the state for paying for the additional adjustment counties communicated. We did talk with the state from the summer into the fall about our concerns with the proposal to redirect realignment growth.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
I do want to say that while it may be 0.9% of the overall realignment Fund, it was a significant chunk of our realignment growth that was redirected right, and we have not gotten realignment growth prior to the pandemic for a very long time. 2011 realignment is crucial for county behavioral health because it is one of the only core sources of funding that we have for substance use disorders.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And in the midst of the fentanyl crisis, we're really relying on this 2011 realignment growth to help sustain that. It's also a core source of funding for EPST, meaning children's services, and again, a lot of our funding has strings attached to it. So we really were looking to this 2011 realignment growth. Solano and Sacramento counties did not think it was fair to siphon funding away from all of the other counties in order to offset the cost that would be necessary.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And we really do hope that we can get to a place where we can fully Fund the transition. For Kaiser, Solano and Sacramento beneficiaries. The funding has already been requested to be pulled from the realignment growth formula, which again, counties objected to both CSAC and CBHDA. And we do think that in order to safely transition people, we need to meet all of three of those prongs that we asked for, and I'm happy to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance
- Elena Ramos
Person
Elena Ramos, Department of Finance we would just like to echo Ms. Cooper's comment that realignment funding is the appropriate funding source for this, and we do hope to come to a resolution with our county.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Will Owens
Person
Technically speaking, this is not a proposal in the Governor's Budget, so we haven't produced a formal analysis, but we're available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. I'll bring it up to the dais. You know, I struggle a little bit with this proposal because we've seen it now, I think our third year looking at it and still seems that we're not able to come to an agreement between the two sides that I'm really wanting to figure out how we can have that collaboration, that we've been so successful in all the other aspects of Calaim. And so I will just lean in and support that.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I hope we are able to come to that resolution and figure out the discrepancies. I will say the differences between 19,000,050 plus million seems like, yeah, we're off by 30 million. It screams to me that we need to analyze and evaluate what the real cost is. The only pushback, I'll add is the third bullet point. Do we need to build it out? Do we really need to build it out? If we contract back with Kaiser, what would we build out and what are you envisioning?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
So there are several things. One, again, we're not clear that Kaiser is open to meeting specialty behavioral health, specialty mental health contractor requirements. So that's one concern, right? We have different requirements and those are state. So, you know, we can't really change those. So one big question or concern is whether that would even be an option for us. Even so, we do provide different kinds of services than Kaiser does. And so we provide field based services. We cover IMD related costs.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We do a full array of field based, home based, et cetera. And so there are very different kinds of services that people benefit from by being in the specialty mental health system, which is why our counties think these beneficiaries would be better served with us. But we need to do it in a way that is safe transition for the Kaiser beneficiaries and that doesn't disrupt services for our existing Medi Cal beneficiaries.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
Yeah. So we've been in conversations with Kaiser for the whole two years that the counties have had to transition these services. And not at 1 point has Kaiser said that they would not be willing to contract back. In fact, we've had many conversations with them in the last few weeks specifically on that conversation. And they have no issues in regards to contracting back to provide those services. So we're hoping that Kaiser and the counties can come to those agreements.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
And I do agree that the services are different, but we also know that Kaiser is currently providing these services today and we subset and segregate the specialty mental health services in the rate. So we do have an understanding, but that involves us sitting down with the county to actually talk about those transitions and start doing those case and profiling with them. And that's what we look forward and hope to do with the county soon.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
You said we were tying it to the payment reform. What happens if we don't?
- Jacey Cooper
Person
The language we negotiated in good faith gave some flexibility, unfortunately, which is why we are continuing to punt the ball, unfortunately. So that is the piece. So we tied it to payment reform so that counties could contract back with Kaiser. That was their request and we thought it was reasonable. And so we wanted to make sure that it's easier to do in payment reform because of documentation reform, the coding simpler. We had done a number of things in Calaim.
- Jacey Cooper
Person
So we thought that was a reasonable ask, and so that's why we moved here. We're hoping we can resolve any other issues the counties have soon so that we can continue to move forward with the transition.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will thank very much this panel, and we will move on to issue 24. Issue 24 is oversight on subs, abuse prevention and treatment. Our first speaker is Laura Thomas, senior Director of HIV and harm reduction policy with the San Francisco AIDS Foundation.
- Laura Thomas
Person
Yes. Can you hear me?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
We can. Thank you.
- Laura Thomas
Person
Wonderful. Thank you so much, Dr. Arambula, for having me on and for letting me provide this testimony virtually. My name is Laura Thomas. I'm the Senior Director of HIV and Harm Reduction Policy at the San Francisco AIDS Foundation, located in San Francisco. And we are a state-licensed substance use disorder treatment program and a harm reduction provider. We focus our services on the LGBTQ population, people living with HIV, people who are unhoused in San Francisco.
- Laura Thomas
Person
And we are able to provide comprehensive services for people who use drugs, including syringe access and disposal, overdose prevention and naloxone distribution, hepatitis C testing and treatment. We provide navigation to medications for opioid use disorder. We provide contingency management. We provide, in conjunction with the Department of Public Health, are able to provide primary care, wound care, et cetera. And so it is from that perspective that it's very clear that California is not going through one crisis, but many crises at the same time.
- Laura Thomas
Person
And I think the one that is top of mind for me. I know we're talking about substance use, but it's really about housing and the extent to which the lack of housing exacerbates every single thing that the people we serve face. That it increases people's trauma, it increases people's reliance on substances to make it through the night, make it through the day when they are unhoused, it makes it that much harder for people to access other services.
- Laura Thomas
Person
California is obviously also in the midst of an overdose crisis that has been primarily driven by the arrival of fentanyl in the illicit drug supply. Illicitly manufactured fentanyl in the drug supply in California.
- Laura Thomas
Person
That has just happened over the last couple of years, but we've seen a huge spike in overdose fatalities, certainly locally as well as around the state, because of that. We also have a HIV crisis, we have a hepatitis C crisis, we have sexually transmitted infection crisis, and all of those epidemics exacerbate each other and often are affecting the same people. We're also, as you've heard earlier, facing a workforce crisis as well, but other people commented on that.
- Laura Thomas
Person
So California has many opportunities right now to do more and to do better when it comes to substance use treatment and dependence and prevention. But unfortunately, we also have the opportunity to make things worse. And so I'm very hopeful that we are able to invest resources in things that work and avoid doing the things that might make this worse.
- Laura Thomas
Person
The state so far has made some really stellar efforts to expand substance use disorder treatment and the full continuum of care for people who use drugs, including really dramatically expanding impact to medications for opioid use disorder, especially buprenorphine. The addition of contingency management as a treatment for stimulant methamphetamine use disorder in Cal AIM is fantastic. The naloxone distribution program is a really great way mechanism to get naloxone out into communities.
- Laura Thomas
Person
One of the, I think, highlights of what California has been doing has been the investment in the California Harm Reduction Initiative, or CHRI, which started in 2020 and has funded staff in many of the syringe access programs around the state, including the one in Fresno, and has made a huge impact on the ability of those programs to provide services.
- Laura Thomas
Person
And particularly when we think about overdose, these are the staff who are getting naloxone into the hands of people who are most likely to be at the scene of an overdose. I referenced the naloxone distribution program, which is great at getting naloxone out, but it is the staff that are funded through CHRI that are getting it into the hands of people who use drugs and who are at the scene of an overdose. So we know from the NDP, the naloxone distribution program.
- Laura Thomas
Person
About 7% of the programs that they distributed naloxone to were the harm reduction programs. They received a little under 30% of the naloxone that was distributed, and they report around 60% of the overdose reversals. So they are clearly punching way above their weight when it comes to effectiveness and are just really part of the cost-effective services that California is providing right now. But we have some challenges.
- Laura Thomas
Person
The feds are in the process of trying to change some of the telehealth access to buprenorphine in particular, which has been a literal lifesaver for many people, especially during Covid And we're probably going to see the rollback of some of the other Covid era policies that really relaxed access to methadone. For example, both methadone and buprenorphine should be as easily available as illicit fentanyl is if we really want to get a handle on opioid use disorder in this state.
- Laura Thomas
Person
The naloxone distribution program is great, but they are having a shortfall in funding that I know you're also going to be hearing about. And as a result, these harm reduction programs are getting, the supply is getting throttled. We are unable to get the amount of Narcan that we need from the state and that we could be distributing here in San Francisco.
- Laura Thomas
Person
And in fact, this amazing California harm reduction initiative is currently slated to end at the end of June of this year because the funding was not renewed last year. So this is an opportunity for the state to step up and continue the funding to the California Harm Reduction initiative. I'm concerned about, there is a disconnect between the resources that we have available and the people who are most vulnerable and most in need.
- Laura Thomas
Person
And we need to be ensuring that as we are making policy decisions around Narcan access, naloxone, fentanyl, fentanyl test strips, that we are matching the resources with the people who are most vulnerable and most in need of those resources. We need to look at the data. We need to really be smart about how we prioritize scarce resources and make sure they're really going to the right place. I will stop there, but I'm very happy to answer any questions. And thank you again for hearing this item.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Next we have Michelle Cabrera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Thank you so much. I was asked to speak a little bit to our drug medical ODS system. And first, I want to align myself with so many of the comments that were just made. Very true. All of them, particularly, we did weigh in on the proposed FDA changes that will restrict prescribing for buprenorphine with the Federal Government and I hope that they do not move forward with that because that would be a devastating change for our system.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
I think it's important to provide a little bit of context. Before we were the first in the nation to get approval for a 90 day jail inreach proposal, we were the first in the nation to do an IMD waiver for residential inpatient drug tratment. Actually, I've come to believe that the IMD exclusion is fundamentally and inherently biased in that it takes federal funding away from MediCal beneficiaries who need access to inpatient drug treatment and mental health treatment, full stop.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We have other tools in the 21st century to ensure quality around lengths of stay and inappropriately long lengths of stay. Currently, over the last 5-6 years, counties have been opting into that new benefit. But I don't think that most people realize that the thing that we did that was so radical 5-6 years ago was to allow for MediCal to pay for inpatient and residential drug treatment.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And even still, much like with the mental health side of things, there's a 30 day average length of stay that we need to be compliant with, which for some people, when it comes to their drug treatment needs, that's not enough, right?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so we hit another cliff there. And as I mentioned earlier, our funding sources, which are available for us to use as a source of match for our SUD treatment services are limited. Some counties were attempting to bring online the ODS benefit during the pandemic. And I don't know if you recall, but I certainly do. Residential treatment settings were not the bees knees during the height of the pandemic. Right.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And so we really struggled with just keeping providers doors open during the pandemic and just keeping that resource available because once we hit the, turn the corner and started coming out of some of the worst of it, we saw that we did have this epidemic level of need for people with substance use disorders. We know that alcohol use went up during the pandemic. We know that cannabis use went up, and certainly the most deadly of all, fentanyl.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We are so proud of California for the contingency management pilot, which we're rolling out the Bridge Navigator program, which we've been doing in California. All of this cumulatively comes together to provide some of the best level of care for MediCal or Medicaid that we see in the country. But again, we need to do so much more. We're just building the foundation right now for what needs to be a much more robust and vibrant system of care.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
And in particular, we've worked hard in payment reform to try and bring the level of reimbursement to where it needs to be to support a good workforce. But we've been advocating for standards to be improved as well for our SUD counselor workforce, even though we're in the midst of a workforce crisis, because we think that the beneficiaries deserve to have quality services provided to them. And so with all of this, I will just hand it over to my state partners. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Director Boss.
- Michelle Boss
Person
I thank you. Also asked to comment a little bit on the drug MediCal organized delivery system and just the capacity of substance use disorder treatment services in the state. As Michelle mentioned, in 2015, California was the first state to implement an 1115 section waiver for substance use disorder services. In addition to the IMD pieces that Michelle referenced, also provide a coordinated approach to substance use services at the county level. Today, 96% of MediCal members reside in the 37 counties participating in this waiver.
- Michelle Boss
Person
In addition to drug medical ods, the department recently expanded medical benefits for individuals with substance use disorder, including mobile crisis services, which we spoke about earlier, peer support services and contingency management, which was also mentioned. Contingency management. California was the first in the nation to receive a federal approval for this benefit in the MediCal program.
- Michelle Boss
Person
Today, about I think, we have 24 drug medical ODS counties, covering 88% of the MediCal population will participate in the contingency management pilot, including Los Angeles, which has begun service delivery there. The drug MediCal organized delivery system waiver has really resulted in some positive outcomes. UCLA research on this 92% satisfaction rate by the members, 9% increase in retention and residential treatment, and has led to a 30% reduction in reoverdose rates. In addition, wanted to speak a little bit about the capacity and what the need might be.
- Michelle Boss
Person
As part of our Behavioral Health Continuum Infrastructure program, substance use disorder facilities were included as part of the eligible applicants. Just to give you some kind of flavor for some of the projects that were awarded, we had three grants awarded to develop or expand residential SUD facilities for transition-age youth. Specifically, three grants were awarded to develop or expand residential SUD facilities for adolescents. Four grants were awarded to develop short term residential therapeutic programs.
- Michelle Boss
Person
Nine grants were awarded to develop or expand children's crisis residential, which also includes that kind of the co-occurring, 17 grants were awarded to develop or expand community wellness and youth prevention centers, and then there were several dozen grants related to expanding outpatient community-based substance use disorder treatment facilities, and some of those will serve adolescents.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next, we have Maria Ochoa, assistant Deputy Director for the Center for Healthy Communities at CDPH.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
Thank you. Good evening. Maria Ochoa. The Substance and Addiction Prevention Branch was formed in 2020 to bring together a dispersed set of programs and to create a home for a behavioral health approach to substance misuse and addiction prevention under the Center for Healthy Communities. The branch aims to prevent and reduce harms caused by substance-related and addictive disorders and is home to three substance misuse and overdose prevention initiatives that address youth cannabis use, alcohol misuse, and opioid overdose prevention.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
The Overdose Prevention Initiative leads the California Department of Public Health's approach to the opioid epidemic. This critical work is supported by both federal funding through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and by state Opioid Settlement Fund dollars. Federal funding supports research and surveillance, including support of the California overdose surveillance dashboard, overdose prevention projects, including partnerships with the Department of Justice Clinical providers, and support for the state's overdose prevention coalitions, which are housed in local health jurisdictions and community-based organizations across the state.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
However, as you heard, given changes in the federal funding strategy, support for the prevention work will be significantly reduced in September 2023, including elimination of funding to support the coalitions. The state Opioid settlement funding supports the forthcoming statewide media campaign to address youth and adult opioid use with a focus on fentanyl and harm reduction strategies.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
CDPH received 40.5 million from the Opioid Settlement Fund until 2025 to support a statewide media campaign and evaluation with three primary aims and audiences to prevent substance misuse among teens and young adults, to stop overdose and overdose death among adults with harm reduction approach, and to raise awareness among families and communities, reduce stigma and equip them with the information they need to respond to the overdose epidemic with life-saving solutions and strategies.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
The campaign will be deployed statewide with a heavier presence in areas bearing higher burden of overdose. Some of the upcoming activities include given the urgency of the overdose crisis, the initial campaign messages are anticipated to be launched in spring of 2023 with the full media campaign launched later in this calendar year. The branch's Youth Cannabis Prevention Initiative includes the California Cannabis Surveillance System and the Cannabis Education Youth Prevention program.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
The surveillance system is a public health data collection and analysis system for youth and adult cannabis use, legal, social, and environmental impacts, and health outcomes. The prevention program provides health education and prevention to reduce the negative impacts and consequences of cannabis used through state and local partnerships and public awareness campaigns. This year, the branch launched their 12 million youth cannabis prevention campaign aimed at youth, their parents, and guardians.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
The youth focused campaign, Mind over Marijuana, aims to educate youth ages 13 to 17 about the risks and consequences associated with cannabis use. Mind over Marijuana launched on social media, radio, television and outdoor advertising such as billboards and at bus stops. Mind over Marijuana addresses how cannabis use can affect parts of the teen brain responsible for forming memories and regulating emotions, making stress and anxiety harder to manage.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
Let's Talk Cannabis is the parent-guardian extension of Mind over Marijuana, which focuses on supporting parents and guardians and having open and honest conversations with teens to prevent cannabis use. Resources for parents and guardians include talking points and a conversation guide, which are available in both English and Spanish. Some of the upcoming activities include evaluation of the campaign efficacy, which is underway with results anticipated for fall 2023. Work with local health jurisdictions and community-based partners to amplify messages and provide helpful resources.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
The branch's Alcohol Harms prevention initiative works to support statewide efforts to reduce the harmful economic, health and social impacts of excessive alcohol use and related harms on the lives of Californians. The Alcohol Harms Prevention Initiative builds partnerships, conducts research, develops health education materials, and promotes evidence-based strategies for preventing excessive alcohol use and related harms in California. And finally, the Office of Problem Gambling is dedicated to promoting awareness and prevention of problem gambling disorder and making treatment available to those negatively impacted by problem gambling.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
Office of Problem Gambling provides training related to the treatment of gambling disorder for counselors through the state and no cost treatment to people who need support. An Office of Problem Gambling Prevention program is comprised of a hotline, 1-800-gambler, training and technical assistance, public awareness campaigns, and research.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Next we have Toby Ewing, Executive Director of the OAC.
- Toby Ewing
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So clearly, there's a lot happening in terms of the SGD service. When we do community engagement, we do community forums, we talk with families. This is a challenging issue because the systems are hard to navigate.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And although there's a lot happening in terms of payment opportunities, the bottom line is what we hear continuously is just how difficult it is to access services, particularly on-demand services, and how, given the nature of addiction, that's important, because when people are ready for care, they need to receive it. And we also need to recognize that people working through addiction may cycle through, may need services multiple times.
- Toby Ewing
Person
This is another area where the service delivery system is difficult to understand by the public, hard to access, and it's difficult for families to ensure that they're receiving the services that are sort of best aligned with their needs. One of the questions in the packet is, what is the intersection of the MHSA and SUD services? And we'll just take some cues. The membership of the commission includes a physician with expertise in addiction medicine.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so from his perspective, and I think the perspective of the commission, addiction disorders are mental illnesses, and they're recognized in the DSM, but that isn't what the culture and the traditional practice is within the broader mental health community. In counties, we see directors who, behavioral health directors who have the addiction side and the mental health side. And so this issue is a little unsettled. We have sponsored two bills to really approach this issue kind of gently.
- Toby Ewing
Person
The first established what we called presumptive eligibility for individuals who needed care. But it was unclear what was happening in their minds and bodies at the moment. It could be psychosis, it could be drug-induced psychosis. And that we heard concerns from counties that if they use MHSA funds to provide that services, they could face an audit exception and have to reimburse those using other dollars.
- Toby Ewing
Person
So we sponsored legislation to clarify that let's hold providers and counties harmless in a strategy to ensure that we deliver care first and then settle up after the fact with a no wrongdoor approach, at least an initial assessment. A lot of support for that, Governor signed it. Second, we sponsored legislation to clarify that MHSAPEI funds can be used for addiction services independent of co-occurring disorders.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And the idea there, particularly for children and youth, is it can be really difficult to sort out what's happening in the life of a young person, and where does that behavior fall into kind of the mix of services that a county or a community provider or a school district might be providing.
- Toby Ewing
Person
This was all towards trying to move the conversation in the broader mental health community to give counties the flexibility to make those decisions based on the range of resources that they have available to them and the range of needs they have in their community. We're currently working to explore ways that we can leverage Mental Health Wellness Act funds as incentive dollars to strengthen access to care.
- Toby Ewing
Person
We're launching a new strategic planning initiative, and one of the conversations that commissions are starting to have is, can we establish an expectation for on-demand addiction services across California? Again, if we want to get in front of the challenge that faces too many Californians and that results in unnecessary and inappropriate loss of life, can we create, again, no wrong door on-demand access to addiction services? What would that look like?
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so we've talked with some counties about their interest in receiving grant funding from the commission to begin to explore building upon the system that's already available for service, but actually leveraging MHSA dollars to supplement that, particularly in ways that can be responsive to people who may not have immediate access to payments, they may not be on MediCal, for example, or that MediCal service may not be available.
- Toby Ewing
Person
And so this would be sort of know, very flexible funding that could create some gap fillers working with community providers and counties and other partners. This is work that Commissioner Itai Danovich, our addiction medicine specialist, he's at Cedars Sinai, has really been pushing the commission to engage on. And so we're really just getting started in that area. But we recognize that it is a core challenge that too many communities are having to face, and we are falling short in terms of access to care and services.
- Toby Ewing
Person
I have personally been called and engaged colleagues and friends to do us a favor to provide same-day services, including on behalf of people from this building. Right. And so this is just an indication of how pervasive this need is and how difficult it is to address and how much work we have to do to really move towards a very goal-driven, population-based strategy that's public health focused to ensure that nobody misses access to the services that we can provide when they need them.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nathanael Williams
Person
Nate Williams, Department of Finance. Nothing to add but available for questions.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Nothing to add, available for questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'll bring it back. I wanted to dig in to Mrs. Thomas's comment and Mrs. Cabrera's follow up regarding methadone and buprenorphine. I understand it's an FDA regulation that they're looking to promulgate, are there any flexibilities that California will be able to replace if the FDA promulgates these regulations? Or how do we ensure that flexibilities which were allowed during the pandemic are afforded to states?
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
I mean, not to my knowledge, but I'm happy to follow your lead. We've researched this. We sent in a letter. We've done our part to try to request that the FDA not move in this direction, but I'm not aware that there would be a state workaround unless you have one.
- Laura Thomas
Person
Yeah, I don't know if there are ways for states to waive those requirements, and some of these are DEA restrictions. The DEA inserts itself in clinical and medical issues when it comes to treatment for substance use disorder, which I think should be staying solidly in the healthcare world and not in the world of enforcement. But the DEA chooses to go there.
- Laura Thomas
Person
So, yeah, some of these restrictions that were lifted during COVID I think, are going to continue to stay with some flexibility, which is good because we've been able to do evaluations and get really good information about increased access, people staying on longer, people really improving their health status.
- Laura Thomas
Person
But, yeah, I think if the state legislature, if Dr. Golly wanted to send a letter, I'm a little bit out of my depth in terms of how California can influence the Federal Government on this, but I think there are other folks there in the room who probably have a better idea of how to make that happen.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Deputy Director.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Thank you, Chair. So I think there are two federal issues at play with respect to medications for opioid use disorder. The panelists have mentioned the DEA walking back some Covid era flexibilities with respect to telepresent buprenorphine, subject to the Ryan Height Online Act. So I think a number of entities in this room, including DHCS, have provided comments to the DEA to retain those flexibilities, which were really crucial for individuals to have telehealth access to buprenorphine, separate and distinct from that SAMHSA.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Our federal partners at SAMHSA and the DEA also issued flexibilities with respect to the provision of methadone and buprenorphine at what California calls narcotic treatment programs. So we are working with our federal partners to ensure California is able to implement and sustain those flexibilities for methadone, in particular in our narcotic treatment programs.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I have an interest in this subject area and would appreciate a follow-up regarding how the DEA makes their decision. And just a comment on the harm reduction initiative. In light of the fentanyl overdose that we're seeing as a state, it doesn't seem to make a whole bunch of sense not to continue funding beyond June of this year, and would agree with you with that, I will thank very much this panel, and we will move on to issue 25.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Issue 25 is on the Opioid Settlements Fund, state-directed programs. BCP. Tyler Sadwith, when you are ready.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Good evening, Mr. Chair. The Department is requesting in this BCP four-year limited term expenditure authority of $32 million in budget year $23 million for fiscal year 24-25, $12 million in fiscal year 25-26 through 26-27. And this is all to support the department's naloxone distribution project, or the NDP, which another panelist referenced.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
So, just as background requests for naloxone have significantly increased over the last year, largely due to rising rates of overdoses, including fentanyl, and now an emerging trend of fentanyl contaminated with the presence of xylazine, which is increasing the lethality of fentanyl. To date, the department has distributed over 2 million units of naloxone, which have resulted in over 140,000 reported overdose reversals. For a fiscal year, the naloxone distribution project anticipates a total distribution of over 1.2 million units of naloxone, costing approximately $59.5 million.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Due to ever-increasing demands for access that we receive through applications to the NDP, we expect to distribute over 1.8 million units costing approximately $88 million in budget year. The FDA recently approved over-the-counter status of naloxone that has yet to come to fruition in our retail pharmacies. We do not anticipate the FDA decision to make naloxone available over the counter will have a major impact on the amount of requests that the NDP receives.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
The department received $2,716,000 in opioid settlement funds for current year and 2.6 million for budget year. Throughout the terms of the settlements of the Opioid Settlement Fund, the national settlement agreements outlined use of funds to be used for opioid remediation activities to combat the current opioid crisis. These funds are being spent on prevention and immediate harm reduction activities, which are allowable activities consistent with the intent of the settlement agreements.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
From the settlements currently received in the opioid settlement funds, the department, the California Department of Public Health and the Department of Rehabilitation are the three state departments which have been allocated the state's allocation of opioid settlement funds. Other recipients of opioid settlement funds include participating subdivisions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Ms. Cabrera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Thank you so much and good evening. We, as county behavioral health, are among the recipients of the local abatement funds, and we have been in conversations with the state about the allocation of the state opioid settlement funds for several reasons. First, as mentioned before, there are limited sources of funding available for substance use disorder prevention and treatment at the local level, and the local abatement funds actually come with pretty prescribed, allowable expenditures, whereas there's more flexibility at the state level.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
We do see the opioid settlement funds in the various rounds that have already come and are about to come as a really significant opportunity for us to make some changes that will have generational impact. And so I wanted to share a little bit about our thoughts on that. We do support the NDP. Let me be clear, however, as we're receiving new state-level opioid settlement funds, we have recommended to the state that we look at prioritizing investments in prevention as well as harm reduction and treatment.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
Our prior speakers talked a little bit about the importance of harm-reduction initiatives. It would be of great benefit to promoting and expanding harm reduction if state funds were made available to the local level with that as part of the criteria. Right. So really removing barriers that might exist in perceived downsides related to harm reduction by making it a state priority. And we hope to partner with the state in realizing that vision.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
In addition, we have very limited sources of funding for both prevention and treatment side, and so we're hoping that we can augment the funds that are available through local opioid settlement funds with statewide funds that are earmarked in those ways. In addition, again to the distribution of naloxone. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Nate Williams, Department of Finance. Nothing further to add.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
No concerns.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Lao?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais. It may be a parking lot issue, and due to the lateness of the night, I will not require an answer. But the state is manufacturing through Cal RX insulin. Is there ever a thought, due to the crisis we're facing to producing naloxone as well?
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The administration is exploring options and assessing the opportunity for the Cal RX initiative to include the manufacture of generic naloxone.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will thank very much this panel and move on to issue 26. Issue 26 is on the fentanyl program grants AB 2365 and innovative approaches to make fentanyl test strips and naloxone more widely available. BCP. We will begin with Maria Ochoa.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
Good evening again. So the Governor's budget reflects an increase of $7.5 million in the opioid settlements funds in fiscal year 23-24, $3.5 million in fiscal year 24-25, and $1.5 million in fiscal year 25-26 and fiscal year 26-27 to support two projects. To address the opioid crisis per the requirements of AB 2365. The first project will issue 6 one-time competitive grants to reduce fentanyl use and overdose.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
The grants will be allocated by region. Two in Northern California, two in the Central Valley, and two in Southern California, with the goal of supporting local efforts in education, testing, recovery, and support services. The grant period will cover three years, from January 2024 through December 2026, with an average award of 427,000 over three years. And I will now turn it over to Alessandra.
- Alessandra Ross
Person
Good evening. Alessandra Ross with the California Department of Public Health, the Center for Infectious Diseases, to speak to the second of these two proposals, and that is $4 million over four years from opioid settlement funds. And this proposal will build on two of the tools that are available to help stem the overdose crisis and save lives.
- Alessandra Ross
Person
The first is to expand the naloxone distribution work that's currently being done by syringe services programs in California, and then the second will increase access to fentanyl test strips throughout the state. The Center for Infectious Diseases will issue a request for information to explore innovative approaches to the work, use that information to issue competitive grants to establish a low-cost naloxone supply for syringe services programs, and expand access to fentanyl test strips.
- Alessandra Ross
Person
As Laura Thomas mentioned in her testimony, syringe services programs are the primary vehicle for reaching people who are at greatest risk of experiencing an overdose, because their central mission is to work with people who are continuing to use drugs, and they are also the primary source of naloxone and training in how to use it for the people who are most likely to witness and reverse an overdose.
- Alessandra Ross
Person
A CDPH-funded study that we did last year of 1500 syringe services program participants found that 65% of them had witnessed an overdose in the previous six months, 55% had used naloxone to reverse an overdose, and 95% of them had gotten that naloxone from a syringe services program. So that's where the work is really being done, on the ground. And when we talk about boots on the ground, those are the boots, those are the feet, and that's where the money needs to be.
- Alessandra Ross
Person
So a survey we did of the 68 programs in California that do this work, all of them said they would be able to scale up and so that's what this proposal is aiming to do. The other opportunity that we're trying to take advantage of comes from recent changes to the law last year that made fentanyl test strips more broadly available by declaring them not to be officially drug paraphernalia.
- Alessandra Ross
Person
So this will also be an opportunity that we can take advantage of, and that's what we're hoping to do.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Ms. Thomas.
- Laura Thomas
Person
Thank you. I will try to keep this brief. I know this is going so late. Just a couple of comments. The California Department of Public Health has really taken a leadership role in supporting harm reduction and supporting the, as you just heard from Ms. Ross. And I think whether it's happening through CDPH or DHCS, just continuing to expand the resources and ensuring that they're getting where they need to go.
- Laura Thomas
Person
One thing I would say about the fentanyl test strips, I think fentanyl test strips are very useful for people who are not regular opioid users, for example, who may be using stimulants and are not expecting to find fentanyl in their substances. I think that the state would be well served to have some flexibility around how that money is spent. You heard, I think, from Tyler Sadwith earlier that xylazine is starting to show up in the California drug supply. There are now xylazine test strips.
- Laura Thomas
Person
Being able to continue to offer these kinds of test strips in a sort of more flexible way than just limiting it to one particular kind and expanding it to broader drug-checking programs. At the San Francisco AIDS Foundation, we have a fantastic drug-checking program that uses a FTIR machine that uses infrared to better detect the substances and provide people with more accurate information about the substances that they're going to do.
- Laura Thomas
Person
So being able to ensure that state support can be as flexible as possible, recognizing the changing drug supply, I think would be well served. I know that the Governor has referenced naloxone manufacture by the state, but the one thing I will say about that, since I have the mic, naloxone itself is a generic medication that is very cheap, inexpensive to manufacture and distribute. What costs money is the Narcan branded nasal inhaler. That is where the pricing issue is and the cost is.
- Laura Thomas
Person
I would be delighted if the State of California figured out how to manufacture those and work out the patent issues. That would definitely make it more accessible, but that's also beyond my pay scale. So thank you very much.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nick Mills
Person
Good evening, Mr. Chair, Nick Mills, Department of Finance. Nothing further to add, but happy to answer any questions.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO?
- Will Owens
Person
Yeah, Will Owens, LAO we have no concerns with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I will thank very much panel 26, and we will move on to panel 27.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Issue 27 is on the fentanyl program grants reporting requirements, AB 2365 trailer Bill. Maria Ochoa.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
Good evening. Maria Ochoa, CDPH. So I won't go into great detail about it because we just heard an update on the proposal, but the proposed trailer Bill for AB 2365 addresses two issues that were identified in AB 2365. One, there was no department identified within Cal HHS to administer the fentanyl program grants and mandated reporting.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
And two, the time frame for reporting to the Legislature and governor's office did not account for the time necessary for CDPH to develop the grant program and for grantees to implement the activities and for CDPH to report on the outcomes of the fentanyl grant programs.
- Maria Ochoa
Person
So the trailer bill language addresses the lead Department role by identifying CDPH and addresses the timeline by specifying that the report due to the Legislature on January 1, 2026, will consist of an interim report on the progress of the grant programs and adds a second report due on January 1, 2028, which summarizes the information provided to CDPH and it extends the sunset date of the chapter until January 1, 2029.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance?
- Nick Mills
Person
Nick Mills, Department of Finance. Nothing further to add.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO?
- Will Owens
Person
No concerns with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank very much, panel 27. We will move on to issue 28. Issue 28 is on the DHCS strengthening oversight for substance use disorder licensing and certification, BCP and trailer Bill. We will begin with Director Baass.
- Michelle Baass
Person
Hi there. While the Department has made strides to improve licensing and certification oversight and streamline processes with our existing resources, the Department proposes a BCP and trailer bill language to strengthen our oversight capabilities for substance use disorder treatment facilities.
- Michelle Baass
Person
With this proposal, the Department seeks to implement a fee increase, effective July 1, 2023 for fees associated with the Residential and Outpatient Program Licensing Fund, make statutory changes to improve the fee processes, and establish a new requirement for mandatory certification at out-patient substance use facilities, increase the expenditure authority for the Department to implement mandatory certification of outpatient SUD facilities, and to address the increased licensing and certification workload in the Southern California region, which experiences the highest rate of complaints and deficiencies and resource-intensive investigations.
- Michelle Baass
Person
Upon approval of the proposed free increase, the Department requests 12 permanent positions to strengthen oversight, as I just mentioned, and to establish the new mandatory certification program. Without the fee increase, the Residential Outpatient Program Licensing Fund, or ROPLF, will not be able to support any additional oversight requirements as it is currently insufficient to cover existing licensing and certification activities.
- Michelle Baass
Person
For some context, the ROPLF was last the fee increases were last increased in 2014, and throughout the last several years, additional legislation and requirements have been implemented that have expanded the Department's responsibility for licensing and certification activities. This includes patient brokering laws, payment prohibition for payment for individuals or entities that refer patients to SUD treatment providers, the requirement for residential facilities to have a level of care designation, and facility requirements to hold various insurance policies.
- Michelle Baass
Person
At the same time, the legislation has expanded the functions and the scope of licensure workload. Since 2018, the fund has experienced a steady decline in revenue due to program closures and the pandemic. The loss of revenue has caused the fund to become insufficient to sustain existing resources.
- Michelle Baass
Person
The Department recognizes that a fee increase of any amount could have an impact on the provider field, but specifically, how much a 75% fee increase would impact the field is unknown, and at this time the Department we don't collect information on gross revenue or operating margins from a licensed or certified providers. However, we wanted to provide some examples to illustrate how much the proposed fee increase actually is. An existing certified outpatient provider would face an increase of about $2,800, which would be assessed every other year.
- Michelle Baass
Person
So this is an increase of about $1,400 per year. For a residential provider with 50 beds, the proposed 75% fee increase would come out to about 12,000 every two years, so about 6000 every year. So we hypothesize just to get a sense for the amount of revenues that Medi-Cal pays some of these providers. So a residential provider operating with 50 beds that only provides care to Medi-Cal members, so we understand the cost for that, generates about 5.6 million in claims. So 5.6 million claims annually.
- Michelle Baass
Person
And if we adjust for occupancy, we think getting it to about 5.6 million per year and they would face a $6,000 increase to their fee annually. We are committed to working with the provider community and the Legislature to ensure Californians are able to continue to access substance use disorder treatment while the Department receives the funding necessary to implement the legislatively mandated licensure and oversight functions. Thank you.
- Vince Fong
Person
Next, we have Robb Layne, Executive Director of California Association of Alcohol and Drug Program Executives.
- Robb Layne
Person
Hi, Mr. Chair. CAADPE supports the Department's proposal to establish the mandatory certification for all outpatient SUD programs. We have a long history in advocating for the mandatory certification in order to bring more accountability, as you were talking about, to the SUD field. We do suggest the Committee consider further distinguishing the individual providers to ensure the right provider types are captured by this proposal. So a little bit of technical assistance we're happy to help with on that proposal.
- Robb Layne
Person
However, CAADPE does respectfully propose the increase to the ROPLF or the Residential and Outpatient Program Licensing Fund. This proposal will only further burden SUD providers with unnecessary costs and exacerbate the network of programs that we're all relying on to provide care. According to DHCS data, the total number of licensed residential treatment programs decreased from 912 to 877 from March 2020 to March 2021, and the total number of beds decreased from 18,155 to 17,962.
- Robb Layne
Person
Keep in mind, this is occurring at the same time that deaths by overdose have skyrocketed and the available workforce, as we discussed earlier, has significantly decreased. The proposal to increase fees is counter to the actions, in our opinion, taken by the state to increase treatment access, including MAT expansion programs, CalAIM reforms, contingency management, and other programs. Last year, during the budget process, the Governor proposed a similar 63% fee increase. That item was ultimately rejected and we're asking that you do the same this year.
- Robb Layne
Person
In closing, I do have two technical issues to address. Currently licensed and certified providers who wish to open a new service location must undergo a full application process for each site. This redundancy places an undue burden on DHCS and also to providers. We ask that the application process is refined for new sites. When a provider organization is an already approved entity, DHCS should only require new information necessary to open new service sites.
- Robb Layne
Person
Not only will this help providers expand services, but this will help create parity with other healthcare settings in our opinion. Lastly, providers are required to annual report and purchase the number of treatment beds disonerous and almost impossible it's almost impossible to project how many beds we will actually need. CAADPE suggests that the Department and Administration consider quarterly reporting structures that will allow providers to pay for beds that are actually used and not just the projected needs.
- Robb Layne
Person
More detail will be found in our letter, but I'm happy to answer questions. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance?
- Nathanael Williams
Person
Nate Williams with Department of Finance. Nothing further to add.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO?
- Ryan Miller
Person
We have not raised contentions with this proposal.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'm going to bring it up to the dais. Total cost of the increase you're proposing in terms of fund. If it's 877 facilities using your upper limit of 6000, my math gets us close to 5 million, give or take. Is that roughly what the state is asking for?
- Michelle Baass
Person
I have to look at my notes.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Sorry.
- Robb Layne
Person
And in fairness, I am working off of 2021 numbers as well.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
I'm happy to take this offline due to the lateness of the hour, and with that I will thank very much panel 28 and move on to panel 29. Our final panel is on the drug Medi-Cal claiming timelines trailer bill. We will begin with Tyler Sadwith.
- Tyler Sadwith
Person
Thank you, Mr. Chair. This should be short and sweet. The Department proposes to change the Drug Medi-Cal claim timeliness submission deadline from six months to 12 months to create parity and be consistent with claim timeliness, requirements for Medi-Cal fee-for-service, specialty mental health services, and federal regulations. In addition to creating parity, this proposal will provide Drug Medi-Cal providers additional time to submit claims, and it will also reduce administrative burden and workload on both the Department and counties associated with requests for late claim approvals.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Michelle Cabrera.
- Michelle Cabrera
Person
First, I want to say thank you so much, Chair and Committee staff, for such a thoughtful approach to all the behavioral health issues that we have going right now, and I want to express CBHD's support for this proposal. This was something that county Behavioral health agencies asked for as a part of our mental health and SUD administrative integration. Thank you.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Department of Finance.
- Nathanael Williams
Person
Nate Williams with Department of Finance. Nothing further to add.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
LAO?
- Ryan Miller
Person
No concerns.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Bring it up to the dais and I will thank this panel as well as all of our panelists. And we will now move on to public commentary. Again, we welcome public comment on all 48 issues that are on today's agenda, but ask you to keep it to those issues. We will begin with public comment.
- Unidentified Speaker
Person
Would it be okay if I sit?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With individuals who are here in the hearing room, and then we will go to the phone lines. Let's begin within the hearing room.
- Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez
Person
Thank you very much, Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez with the California State Association of Counties. Thank you for holding this important hearing and powering through this evening. CSAC appreciates the Legislature's and the governor's commitment to critical investments made to support the CalAIM initiative. Counties recognize the potential benefits of both the justice-involved initiative and the proposed behavioral health community-based continuum demonstration waiver, and we look forward to continued collaboration with both the Legislature and the Administration to achieve those goals.
- Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez
Person
We support behavioral health payment reform and truly appreciate the investments in workforce development that are so critically needed. Just want to touch on a few more items, specific items, quickly. Issue eight we'd like to thank the Committee for inclusion of the administration's IST growth cap and penalty program on today's agenda and really appreciate that discussion. We echo the comments you heard earlier from Nevada County Behavioral Health Director Phebe Bell, which highlighted the county concerns.
- Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez
Person
Counties are grateful for the existing county state partnerships and the significant investments aimed at addressing the rising IST population. However, we remain deeply concerned with the implementation of the growth cap and penalty program, as has been mentioned, which unfairly penalizes counties for individuals even if they're treated locally or restored. We don't believe that that was the intent. Issue 13 was the CARE Act, and we appreciate that an ongoing allocation for CARE Act activities was included in the Governor's proposal.
- Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez
Person
But CSAC, alongside our county partners, continue to engage with the Administration to update this cost estimate to fully reflect the ongoing impacts to counties statewide that will be necessary to fully fund and successfully implement the new program. And then finally issue 23 on Sacramento and Solano. I can appreciate the Chair's encouragement for the state to work with Sacramento and Solano counties and vice versa, but for us, this is bigger than two counties.
- Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez
Person
The specialty mental health clients that Kaiser has been serving under contract with the state were never included in the agreement between the state and counties. Broadly concerning 2011 realignment, the state is unilaterally deciding to shift new CARE costs to Sacramento and Solano counties and to pay for those costs with money taken from 56 other counties.
- Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez
Person
While the transition issues have been heard before, and you've mentioned you've heard for years now, the proposal to divert realignment growth funds from other counties to achieve state budget savings is new this year. That's a new proposal, and this is all happening at a time when, as your hearing tonight really amplified, county behavioral health funding is fragile, the workforce is stretched thin, and the needs are growing.
- Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez
Person
And so I want to leave you with that and would encourage the Legislature to really think about what that proposal is sort of zooming out from just the two counties involved. So thank you for your time.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you very much. Seeing no more public comment in the hearing room. Operator, we will turn to the phone lines and see if there are any public comment on the phone lines. As a reminder, the phone number and access code are on the first page of our agenda on the Subcommittee's website and should also be appearing on your screen if you are watching the live stream. The phone number again is 877-692-8957 and the access code is 1315126. Let's begin.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Gentlemen, on the phone lines. If you have a comment, please press one, then zero. Once again, for comments over the phone lines, please press one, then zero. And one moment, please for your first question. We'll go to line number 33. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
- Sherry Daley
Person
Hello? Are you hearing me now?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Yes, ma'am.
- Committee Moderator
Person
Yes, please go ahead.
- Sherry Daley
Person
Thank you. Honorable Chair and Members, Sherry Daley with the California Consortium of Addiction Programs and Professionals. Our opposition to the fee increase in item 28, strengthening oversight for substance use disorder licensing and certification, was submitted via a letter with numerous agencies and programs as signatories. Many of our members are in the six bed category, which makes up half of California's residential capacity. These small businesses will definitely be impacted by the proposed increase as their margins are very small.
- Sherry Daley
Person
CCAP is also sponsoring a legislative solution to this problem in AB 1477, which calls for freezing fees at 2022 rates for seven years with a gradual increase until the fund is stabilized. We urge Committee to reconcile the request in item 28 with the aims of Ms. Quirk Silva's legislation. Concerning the policy proposal in item 28 to require mandatory certification for outpatient providers, CCAP believes that a change of this degree should have been presented in a Bill and reviewed by policy and appropriations committees.
- Sherry Daley
Person
CCAP has sponsored multiple bills to address mandatory certification, beginning with SB 325, Hill. When Senator Hill retired, Assemblywoman, Petrie-Norris, carried the torch introducing AB 920, which was a successful Bill in that it passed with no opposition and had only one No vote throughout its committees. It was vetoed in October 2019, wherein the Governor asked that the Legislature and sponsors work closely with DHCS on a more robust proposal for his consideration.
- Sherry Daley
Person
The more robust proposal came in the form of AB 77, also a Petrie-Norris-sponsored Bill which was sidelined during the pandemic. Although CCAP has been leading the effort to require that all services in the substance use disorder space be regulated, we must point out that the trailer bill language proposed by the Department lacks the basic foundations needed to implement a mandatory certification plan.
- Sherry Daley
Person
For instance, there is no definition in the language of which services would require a license because current statute describes our services broadly as treatment and recovery services, which could be many things, including recreational, social, and other nonclinical services. It also does not resolve what the definition of a program is. The trail bill language simply says it is a business entity with an address which provides treatment, recovery, detoxification, or medication services, none of which are defined.
- Sherry Daley
Person
What is a recovery service, for instance? Who would be compelled to obtain certification? Is one person providing addiction counseling a program? If so, will independent practitioners providing services in our rural counties be banned from continuing to see patients? We have also not addressed the confusion the public will experience if we call programs certified when they should actually be designated as licensed. These are only a few of the unanswered questions that need attention.
- Sherry Daley
Person
Conducting a monumental policy shift with trailer bill language that is not even linked to this item for the public to see makes it difficult to hear the input of the thousands of treatment programs and workers and the millions of people in recovery who should be involved in shaping this policy. CCAP has provided written feedback to the Department concerning concerning some of these issues today, we ask that Committee discuss the process by which this issue is being approached.
- Sherry Daley
Person
At the very least, the trailer Bill should encompass the policy developed through the legislative process for AB 920, which included hours of stakeholder meetings, articulate Committee analyses, robust hearings on the subject, and thorough vetting by both houses of the Legislature. Thank you for your consideration.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you. Next caller, please.
- Committee Moderator
Person
And at this time, there are no further comments.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, operator. I will take that as the conclusion of public comment for today. We'll thank all of our panelists, the Administration, LAO, Department of Finance, Tech, the sergeants, but I want to particularly uplift Andrea Margolis for writing nearly 200 pages of an agenda today, as well as the public for improving our process. With that, we are adjourned for the night. Have a good night.
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