Assembly Standing Committee on Public Employment and Retirement

Good morning and welcome to the public and Members to the Assembly Committee on the Public Employment and Retirement. Before we begin, I have several announcements. File item 33 AB 912 Wilson is proposed for consent. File item 5, AB 1054, Gibson has been pulled by the author.

File item 8, AB 1323, Chin has been pulled by the author and File item number 10 AB 1439 Garcia has been pulled by the author. For this hearing, we'll be limiting substance testimony to two primary witnesses on each side of the Bill and each will have two minutes.

All others may only state their names, organization, if any, and position on the Bill. As a reminder, primary witness in support must be those accompanied with the author or who otherwise have registered a support position with the Committee. And the primary witnesses in opposition must have their opposition registered with the Committee.

All other support and opposition can be stated at the standing mic and we'll call upon to simply state your name, affiliation and position for Committee Members.

Since our hearings are public and some travel far to be here in respect for them and the author, please allow the author to complete their opening remarks regarding the bills before making a motion so the public has an idea of what the Bill is about and why it is proposed.

If a motion is made during the author's opening remarks, I'll simply say that the motion will be recognized at the appropriate time for authors. You'll note that our hearing is publicly noticed as file order. Your staff should be monitoring this hearing to assist you with coming at the appropriate time to present your Bill.

I see that some Members are already here. Finally, the Assembly has experienced a number of disruption to Committee and floor proceedings in the last few years because we seek to protect rights of all who participate in the legislative process and can effectively deliberate on critical issues facing California so that everyone is absolutely clear.

Conduct that disrupts, disturbs or impedes the orderly conduct of this hearing is prohibited. We will not accept such behavior or behavior that incites or threatens violence. To address any such conduct, I will direct the individual to stop and warn them. If they continue, they will be removed from participating in this hearing or from the Capitol.

And we will temporarily the hearing if necessary so that the sergeants who are sworn officers can restore order. Hopefully it will never come to that. Thank you in advance. Members, we need to establish a quorum. Madam Secretary.

[Roll Call]

Members, let's take up the consent calendar. Is there any Committee Member who wishes to remove AB912 Wilson? From the consent calendar motion hearing. We had a motion by Nguyen and a second by Lackey. Madam Secretary,

[Roll Call]

Thank you. Where's my order? Let's see who's here first. AB 569. Assembly Member Stephanie, you can start with Ready when you're ready. Thank you.

Good morning, Madam Chair and Members. I want to start by sharing that I will be accepting the Committee's amendments. And Today I'm presenting AB569, a Bill to help local governments recruit and retain a strong public workforce by giving them the option to negotiate supplemental pension plans for their employees. Across California, local governments are facing a real challenge.

They can't hire and keep enough workers to fill critical jobs, from emergency services to sanitation to health care. We're seeing persistent vacancies, and that affects the services our communities depend on every day. A major driver of this problem is retirement insecurity, and that's where AB569 comes in.

AB569 clarifies that a local public employer and a union representing its workers can negotiate contributions to a supplemental defined benefit plan. This Bill does not create new mandates. I want to be very clear about that. And it does not undermine PEPRA's core protections.

It simply gives local governments and their employees another option at the bargaining table, one that might make the difference between losing or keeping a talented worker. We've worked closely with Committee staff to ensure the Bill stays narrowly focused, and I want to thank the staff for that.

And at the Committee's request, we've amended the Bill to remove the word notwithstanding, which could have created unintended ambiguity. The amended language makes clear that any negotiated contributions must remain fully consistent with existing PEPRA limits.

In a competitive job market, local governments need to be able to offer benefits that workers value, and they need to be able to do that in partnership with Labor. AB569 gives local governments that option, not the obligation, but to negotiate for stronger retirement security. With me today, I have Shane Gooseman with the Teamsters to testify and support.

And you have two minutes.

Yeah. Good morning, Madam Chair. I won't take all two minutes. This will be very quick. Shane Gusman, on behalf of the California Teamsters Public Affairs Council, this Bill is really about clarifying what can and can't be done with these plans.

Existing pension plans that were grandfathered in during the enactment of pepra, we're mostly talking about the only ones that I know in existence are Taft Hartley plans that are managed by the union that represents the bargaining unit, and it would allow a small contribution to those plans. Allow the union to negotiate a small contribution to those plans.

Right now there are grandfathering provisions in two different places in pepra. And as you can see from the analysis that was so thoroughly prepared, it's a little bit convoluted. And so the idea is to.

To clarify it so we can make sure that employers and bargaining units understand that, yes, you can negotiate contributions to an existing plan going forward. And with that, we'd ask for your aye vote.

Thank you. Are there any in support? Please come to the mic. State your name, organization and position Committee.

Yvonne Fernandez with the California Labor Federation in support.

Thank you. Seeing no more. In. In support. Are there any in opposition? Please come to the front. Seeing none. No one in opposition. Anyone like to speak at the mic? In opposition? Seeing none. I'll bring it back to the dais. Any Member have any questions or any comments? Second, I'm seeing none.

The Bill was moved by Assemblymember Berner and seconded by Assemblymember Nguyen. Madam Secretary, please call the roll. I'm sorry, would you please like to close? I went too quick.

Sure. I just want to thank the Teamsters for their partnership. My great grandfather and my brother was a Teamster. So very happy to have them here with me today. And I respectfully asked for an aye vote.

[Roll Call]

We have sufficient votes. We'll place it on hold. Thank you. Next we'll have Assembly Member Ramos. AB 989. We. We'll take that at the appropriate time. Thank you, Assembly Member.

Thank you so much, Madam Chair. Thank you, Members, for your motion. And second, today I want to thank the Committee also for. I know looking at the language of what brought us here today is very much intense in history in the State of California.

In 1998, while I was still on tribal council, I introduced a Bill AB 1953, along with former Assemblymember Joe Bacus Sr. Which brought Native American Day into the mainstream of the educational system, calling on educational systems to teach about the factual sights and sounds of California's first people. 27 years later today.

We are here today, moving forward on the next step in honoring California's First People With a Paid State Holiday California is home to more Native American people than any other state in the nation, with hundreds of tribes sharing their unique history on their traditional lands.

However, there are still areas that are not acknowledged, are widely known or accepted in the State of California. California's first people's issues such as slavery, militias that were sent out to exterminate try to exterminate California's first people that was paid for by taxpayers dollars and reimbursed by the Federal Government to the State of California.

These types of issues still have not resonate to where they need to be in the State of California. Atrocities that had left and still leave deep scars and trauma for many generations to overcome and that has continued to impact tribal communities to this day. Yet California's first people remain resilient and contribute to the State of California.

It's okay, take your time. The work being done here today will help achieve the next step that we have set out to accomplish 27 years ago to finally establish California Native American Day as a paid holiday. With me today is Calvin Hedrick on behalf of California Native Vote Project. Thank you.

..., Calvin Hedrick I am Mountain Maidu and I am a community organizer with the California Native Vote Project and good morning Chair and Members of the Committee. I am here today on behalf of CNBP to express our full support and proud sponsorship of Assembly Bill 989 introduced by Assemblymember Ramos.

AB989 proposes a long overdue recognition making California Native American Day, observed on the fourth Friday of September, an official paid state holiday.

While this has been recognized symbolically, we would like to make sure that it finally has the same standing as other state holidays, honoring the contributions and sovereignty of Native peoples not just in word but in practice.

California Native American Day is not only a celebration of our resilience and survival, but also recognition of our deep and enduring role in shaping the past, present and future of this state. For Native communities, it's a day of cultural importance, one that reflects both the beauty of our traditions and the trauma of our history.

Formalizing this day as a paid holiday acknowledges that Native peoples matter, that our cultures, our presence, and our contributions to California are just as important as other communities. AB989 puts Native American Day on equal footing with holidays like Juneteenth, Lunar New Year and Genocide Remembrance Day, sending a clear message that California values diversity, inclusion and historical truth.

As an organizer who works closely with Native youth and communities across the state, I Can tell you this. Visibility matters, recognition matters and leadership matters. We are especially proud to support this Bill because it is authored by Assembly Member Ramos, the first California Native American elected as state Legislature and a powerful voice for our communities.

We believe that AB989 is not just a policy decision, it's a moral one. It's about correcting disparities, honoring Native voices and helping to heal the wounds that still affect our communities today. And it's about creating space for Native people to gather, to teach and to celebrate without needing time off to ask for time off to do so.

On behalf of the California Native Vote Project, I thank Assemblymember Ramos for his leadership and urge the Committee to pass AB989 and take this meaningful step towards justice and equity. Thank you.

Thank you. Can I please have folks who want to speak in support? Please give your name, organization and your position. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Scott Govenar on behalf of the Morongo Band of Mission Indians, in support.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Members of the Committee, Frank Bolina, on behalf of Yohavyatham of San Manuel Nation and the San Ynez Band of Chumash Indians, strong support.

Rocky Rushing, on behalf of the Society for California Archaeology and strong sport. Thank you.

Kimiko Hassler, Member of the Valley Tribe in support. Listening mvp Sequoia Coleman, Member of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma Muskogee, in full support with the cnvp.

Thank you. Are there any registered witnesses in opposition? Are there anyone that would like to come up and speak in opposition? Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the dads. Any questions or comments? Yes, Assemblymember Nguyen.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanna the Member for bringing this board. This is well, well overdue. And you are absolutely correct, sir, in saying that this aligns with some of the other holidays that we celebrate, like Juneteenth and Lunar New Year.

But the significance it brings for you to bring this forward, for all of us to be able to vote on this and recognize the first people here in California, in our nation, is very meaningful to me. And hearing you express how passionately this means to you made me almost get emotional.

Because I know how this is not just for you, but for your people and for all of us to be able to recognize, understand, learn and honor the people. So thank you so much.

If I'm not added as a co author and if you're accepting co authors, I'd love to be added and wholeheartedly, happily honored to move this Bill.

Thank you so much.

Would you like to anyone else? So for me, I would just like to thank the author for bringing this and thank you for letting us be a part of this history. Because as Assemblymember Wynn said, this is long overdue. Of course we should have Native American Day to celebrate our people, our first people. This is your country.

And so before there was a King Day or a Cesar Chavez Day, there should have been a Native American Day. So I am so proud to be here to be a part of this history. And I'm recommending an aye vote.

Thank you.

Would you like to close?

Well, thank you, Madam Chair.

And thank you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I'm also would like to be a co author of the Bill.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Well, thank you so much. And it really does bring a lot of recognition in the State of California to all California Indian tribes to be able to celebrate the fourth Friday of September as a paid holiday. Something that is long overdue.

And I want to thank the makeup of the Legislature today that has allowed this Bill to continue to move forward with that. I ask for your aye vote not just for me, but for all of our ancestors and all of California Indian people.

And I can't wait to celebrate the first holiday. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.

[Roll Call]

We have sufficient votes to put it on hold. Thank you. Next we'll have Assembly Member Carla A.B. 268 Kalra.

Good morning, Madam Chair Members. A.B. 268 as Diwali is an official state holiday in California, and I'm proud to author it a long with our colleague, Assembly Member Patel.

Diwali, a festival of great significance to Indian Americans and South Asian Americans and is celebrated annually by Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains of all ethnic backgrounds throughout the United States and across the globe.

The exact date of Diwali is determined by the 15th day of the month of Karthik and Hindu lunar new year, lunar calendar of each year. It's kind of like our lunar new year, right? And it does happen typically towards the end of October or early November.

Even though California often leads in its diversity, we're not the first state to specifically recognize the value in its state laws. Last year, Pennsylvania became the first state to officially recognize the Valley as a state holiday. New York requires public schools in the City of New York to be closed on the Valley as a school Holiday.

Other states are also considering similar recognitions through state measures, including Massachusetts, Nevada, Illinois, and Connecticut. The analysis does a thorough job explaining the broad approach taken with other cultural, religious, and heritage days. However, Diwali is also broad, is also broad and multicultural, and California is home to the largest population of Indian Americans and South Asians.

I appreciate the suggestions made in the analysis, and we'll take them into consideration should this Bill pass today. Respectfully. As for an aye vote, thank you. This is my Chief of Staff who's been working diligently on this, Ryan Guillen.

So you have two minutes.

oh, you're not gonna speak? Yeah, he's gonna hang out with me.

Can we. Are there any witnesses in support. Please come up. State your name, organization and position. Are there any witnesses registered in opposition? Seeing none. Is there any witnesses that would like to come up and state their name, organization and position Would like to bring it back to the. To the dais? Yes. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I, again, I like the previous one. Thank you for bringing this forward for us to be able to be a part of this. In my district, I've gone to mini Diwali celebrations. I love it. I love how the families come together and they bring their children and the celebration.

And while I celebrate Lunar New Year, one of the things I've always brought forward was that growing up, it was always known as Chinese New Year. And that's what I would continue to call until I got older and I realized I'm not Chinese. And for us, we call it that. And so Lunar New Year encompasses every.

All of us. However, in this situation, I love the fact that we can say that Diwali is something that we also celebrate as well, too, and it's being recognized, and it also is an opportunity for our community to learn about the different cultures and the different types of celebrations that we do here in our community. So thank you so much for bringing this forward.

Thank you. Is there any other Members? Any more statements? Well, I'd like to. I can't wait to say Happy Diwali. Did I say it correctly? I can't wait to say Happy Diwali. And so I'm so proud of you for bringing this Bill forward. And, of course, I look forward to celebrating the rich culture of our communities. Would you like to close?

Yeah. Thank you so much, Madam Chair. I look forward to continued celebrations of what makes our state great, which is this extraordinary diversity, as mentioned. And I think very similarly, when I was growing up and would go to the Valley celebrations, It was pretty much all Indians or all South Asians.

Now you're seeing so many others from the community. Just like with that celebrations, it's not just the Vietnamese community anymore. And that's a beautiful thing. We're starting to understand and celebrate with one another what makes this state so great. And with that, I respect the aspirin. I vote.

I have a motion by Assembly Member Berner and a second by Assembly Member Nguyen. Please call the roll.

[Roll Call]

We have sufficient votes to put on hold. Thank you. Thank you. Assembly Member Chavo, we're ready for you. AJR3. Good morning.

Hi. Thank you, Madam Chair and Members. I really appreciate this opportunity to present AJR3 a resolution to send a strong message to Congressional leadership, California's Congressional delegation and the White House that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are foundational to our communities and that any cuts to these programs will only create irreparable harm.

Social Security is our nation's most important source of retirement income, disability and life insurance. And for over 6 million Californians, including veterans and those who serve who those with severe work disabilities, the program provides monthly cash benefits and health insurance.

We must remember that the Social Security system is one where those now receiving benefits paid into the system their entire working life on the promise that when the time comes, they would receive the benefits they were entitled to. This is very literally money that everyone has paid into and should receive back.

Like Social Security, Medicare is also a critical lifeline to seniors and persons living with disabilities. The health care provided under Medicare makes sure that the population with the highest health care costs are provided care at a fraction of the administrative costs of private health care plans.

Current federal proposals could change how care is delivered under Medicare and result in an increased health care security and cost for those who rely on it, especially our seniors. And finally, this AJR calls for our representatives to protect Medicaid or Medi Cal in California.

For nearly 15 million Californians, including children and families, Medi Cal is their only source of health care, providing primary care services, dental and vision care and mental health care, substance use disorder services and long term care as well. Medi Cal is already caring for working people in our state, with 1 in 5 of all California workers enrolled.

With me to speak today to support AJR3 is Hene Kelly, Vice President of the California Alliance for Retired Americans and Sherry Williams from SEIU Local 2015.

Ladies, you'll have two minutes each. Thank you.

Yes, ma'am. I am Henny Kelly. Proposed cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid will impact seniors as well as young people.

It is impacting me because I lost my husband on November 72024 and I have been told that it will be an additional 180 to 240 days to get an appointment with Social Security to receive his death benefits and his Social Security. I am not alone in this.

I have talked to people who have lost their houses and lost their everything because it didn't work. Cara does outreach, regardless of politics, and we let people of all ages know about laws that may impact them and how they can advocate. Retirees are scared. They're already struggling to afford their health care housing on a fixed income.

If you get to be old like me, you'll likely have some disabilities. But Social Security is for disabled people of all ages. About 25% of Californians who receive Social Security are under 65. And Medi Cal covers more than half of all California kids. If we cut Medicare or Medicaid Medi Cal services, people will die.

There will be more seniors and people with disabilities on our streets, young children on the streets. Emergency rooms will be swamped, making care more expensive for everyone. That's why I ask you to vote aye today on ajr. It is about decency and freedom.

And the time has come for us to pass it on to the next generation and the generation after them. For my grandchildren, your grandchildren, their grandchildren, this is the right thing to do.

Thank you.

Good morning, Committee Members. Thank you for holding this important hearing and considering AJR3, which I am here to support. My name is Sherry Williams. I've been a care provider for over 30 years.

And in the 10 years I have worked for IHSS, I am here to share with you absolutely critical role that Medi Cal play plays in the lives of millions of Californians and to speak out against the proposal in US Congress to cut 801.0 million billion one point from Medicare.

I have cared for approximately 15 people as an NIH care provider. Each one of them is valuable and an important part of their community. As a caregiver, I put myself in their shoes and ask them how I want to be treated, and that is the care I provide for them.

I'm going to share a story of two people, both veterans, whom I cared for. Peggy, in her late 50s, has developed multiple serious health conditions that kept her homebound. She had severe respiratory issues Heart disease and extreme limited mobility. She became a prisoner in her own home. Without care, she soon would have had been institutionalized.

Instead, IHS has allowed her to stay in her home and live in a life of great dignity. It has been her lifeline. Taking care away from her would be devastating. Not to mention the medical care that she relies on provided by Medi Cal Oxygen Medications, respiratory therapy and frequent Doctor visits. She served the country.

She served this country. She contributed her to her community. And she is now in need of care. Something that could happen to any one of us. She doesn't deserve that. No one deserves that. Now let me tell you about Mack, another veteran. Someone who served our country and military and our state as a counselor in state prisons.

He has now has dementia and became. I began caring for him when he is 90. Everywhere we went, Costco Church, everyone knew him in Modesto. He was a Member of this community. He graduated from the State of the University of Sacramento care. He would have been at grave risk of becoming lost or even having an accident.

Common events for people with dementia without ihss. One of his children wanted how to quit their job. Who serves as an attorney in San Francisco. He had twin boys that both are criminal attorneys. So cutting this Bill $880 billion in Medicare and reducing the access to taking care away from Peggy and Matt.

Thank you.

This is a lie. I'm talking point the political politicians are hiding behind. I urge you to support AJR3.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Are there any witnesses in support? Please come forward. Give your name, organization and your position.

Omar Altamimi with the California Pan Ethnic Health Network in support.

Thank you.

Our Robert Coppola, Member of Kara and DACA with Disability Rights group. Strong support. Thank you.

Good morning. Linda Nguy with Western Center on Law and Poverty in support.

Mark Persico, SF CARA support Cora Mccoy, Kara strongly support.

Tina Martin, San Francisco Kara strongly report Har Cindy Young, Vice President with the California Alliance for Retired Americans and strong support.

My name is Stan Wong, a Member of CARA and I support the Bill.

Thank you.

Mark Farouk, California Hospital Association in support.

Thank you.

Good morning Chair Committee Members. Brian Miramontes with the American Federation of State County Municipal Employees in support.

Thank you.

Christine Smith, Health Access California in support.

Frankie De La Torre with SEIU Local 2015 in strong support.

Thank you.

George Cruz on behalf of the California Behavioral Health Association in support. Thank you.

Keith Umamoto, California Alliance for Retired Americans and support.

Thank you.

Noel Felice Smith, Roseville, CA Alliance for Retired Americans in support.

Arlene Harrison, Placer County, CARA in support.

Hi. CT Weber, CARA in support. Also Peace and Freedom Party of California letter on file now in support.

Thank you.

Good morning. Danny Brown on behalf of the CalPERS Board of Administration and Support.

Thank you.

Good morning. Beth Malinowski, the SEIU California and strong support.

Morning. Madam Chair Members Mari Lopez with the California Nurses Association in support.

Jeff Tardegia, an advocate, Kara Owl and a few other groups. Disability and other things through their strong lean support.

Thank you. Thank you. Are there seeing no more witnesses? Are there any witnesses registered in opposition? Please come forward. Seeing none. Are there any witnesses that would like to give their name in opposition? Seeing none. I shall bring it back to the dais. Are there any Members with any questions or comments? Yes, Assembly Member Nguyen.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to thank you to the Assembly Member for bringing this first and thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry for your loss, but the one thing, I mean, I loved everything you said, but I think the one thing resonates with all of us is that we have to do this for the next generations to come. It is for your grandchildren and our grandchildren and their grandchildren.

And so this is a set in the right path and I'm more than happy to move this Bill and support this.

Are there any. Would you like to make any comments? Thank you so much to the author for bringing this Bill. This is so important. This is not the time for us to cut Medicaid. Medi Cal. Right. We have been putting into these funds and we deserve for our most vulnerable to be taken care of.

It's just really, really not the time. With everything else failing around us, we want people to be able to go to the Doctor. And so I am giving an ireco. Would you like to close?

Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank you, Members. You know, we. I also sit on a budget Subcommitee and we're seeing the kind of devastation that these cuts are not only going to make to the folks who are receiving these benefits and these services, but also to our whole state budget that will have ripple effects far beyond that.

These are critical programs, as you know, as we've talked about, that people have paid into. It's literally stealing money out of people's pockets to cut these programs and cut the benefits that they are owed.

And we think it's really important that we send a strong message here in California that we need to make sure we keep our promise that these benefits are here. As someone who, you know, my parents are on Medicare.

My dad could hear us tell him we loved him before he died because of the hearing aids he got from Medicare. I know personally how important these programs are and we cannot let these fail. Seniors were, 50% of them were below the poverty, living in poverty before we created Social Security, and we cannot go back to that.

Thank you. And I'm so sorry for your loss as well. We have a We moved the Bill by Assembly Member Nguyen. Seconded by Assemblymember Berner. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.

The motion is be adopted. McKenna. Aye. McKenna I Lackey. Lackey I Alanise. Alanis I Burner. Berner I Elawari. Garcia. Aye.

We have sufficient votes will put it on hold. Thank you.

Thank you. Next we'll have Assembly Member Quirk-Silva. AB 1067 Good morning.

Good morning, Madam Chair and Members of the Committee. I'd like to start by thanking the Committee consultants for their work and would like to accept the Committee's amendments. Before I begin my remarks, I do want to share how this Bill came about.

As many of us in the legislative body know, we have Select Committees and we have hearings, sometimes joint hearings, and this came out of a special hearing last year with the CSUF and UCS regarding some of the issues that have been highlighted in potential issues with employees that sometimes reporting is not moved forward or investigated and then you see a resignation.

So with that I will make my remarks. I'm proud to present AB 1067, which upholds integrity within our public service system and strengthens accountability by closing a loophole that has allowed some public employees to evade consequences for serious misconduct. AB 1067 requires public employers to complete misconduct investigations even if the employee under investigation retires during the process.

Well documented abuses have shown that some individuals use retirement as a shield to avoid accountability. And again, this too often has happened in some of our higher education systems. And many of these cases, investigations are quietly dropped and wrongdoing is never officially recorded.

This Bill reflects the simple principle that if someone misuses their position of public trust, they should be held accountable, retired or not. Under current law, once an employee retires, there is no obligation for the employer to continue the investigation. This creates a troubling gap in oversight, allowing individuals to walk away before the facts are fully known.

Even worse, without a completed investigation, there is often no documentation of misconduct to refer to law enforcement, regulatory bodies or oversight entities. AB 1067 ensures that misconduct investigations continue their natural conclusion even if the employee is no longer on the payroll. This is not about in punishing retirees or in creating unnecessary burdens for agencies.

It is about ensuring justice for those who have been victimized and protecting the integrity of our public institutions. By requiring that investigations move forward, we ensure that appropriate findings can be referred to law enforcement or used to inform decisions related to pensions, public safety and transparency. AB 1067 is a common sense reform for our state and local government systems.

Thank you. Are there any witnesses in support? Please come forward. Any registered witnesses in opposition? Oh, I'm sorry. You could come forward. Yes. Give your name.

Yes. Yadi Yanse with Oakland Privacy and Support.

Thank you. Any witnesses in opposition, please come forward. Seeing none, I would like to bring it back to the dais. Any comments from Members Assemblymember Alanis?

I have some questions about the Bill in regards to retirement. Are you now are you talking about those that retire after the conviction is made or prior to.

It's the ones who are retiring before.

And then the investigation ends now is this and this is taking away their Retirement or

There would, the retirement would only be impacted if there is a conviction.

Okay. So if say I was under investigation, I decided to retire prior to the investigation, the investigation continues, which it should, as your Bill also states as well. If found guilty, then their retirement is in jeopardy.

Yes.

And so what do we do about the we just passed a Bill earlier, just prior to you, about Medicaid, Medicare for people who are dependent on that. So what do we do about the spouses in the family who are also dependent on that retirement for that? Do they get their half?

That is not addressed in this Bill at this point.

I would probably look into that too, because we have some spouses who are dependent on that retirement that are now getting taken for a choice that they did not make a decision on. I know we like to talk about supporting victims and I think that would be victimizing them.

I don't know if that was just an oversight, but that would be something I would think about. But I know with almost 30 years in public safety and seeing that, I too also did not like that they did not continue the investigation. So I do like that part. But I just wanted to bring that up too. And I definitely will be supporting this.

No, I appreciate that. That is definitely something that we will dive deeper. .

Assembly Member clarifying question only because Assemblymember Alanis asked. But this would only impact from the time that they are convicted.

So if you worked for 30 years and the last five years is when you were convicted of the crime, the retirement would only you would still get the retirement, but it would just stop at where those last five years are or however many years it is. Right. So it's not completely gone. It's just up until the time that you

For the retirement that you have occurred during that period of work.

Only during the time where you did the crime.

Yes. And again, knowing that many people are changing jobs more often, but there are still Some people who are in jobs for their entire career. So it could impact somebody for their entire career if found. If convicted.

If convicted from day one of their career.

Yes.

Is that. I don't think. If you read the analysis, it was the example that Assemblymember Nguyen gave. If you work 30 years in the last five years, these. I did something.

Allegations.

Allegations. And I was investigated for those last five years. It'll only affect the five years of your retirement. You'll get the 25. But that five years could be taken away from you.

Yes. I'm sorry, I was misunderstanding.

Thank you. Yeah. I wanted to clarify

And again It does sound punishing and it is punishing, but the goal is to make sure that these allegations are not only investigated. It does not mean that every investigation is going to turn out that every single allegation is confirmed and then there's a conviction. So this would only imply. If there is a conviction.

Thank you. Would you like to close?

Yes. And again, my hope on this Bill is that this is a very, very small amount of individuals that we are talking about. But the message is particularly to those that we've already seen in essence retired their way out of potential charges is we take this serious, that we do not condone using positions of power.

And in many cases, these allegations have been at the highest levels and that we will pursue this. And with that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

Thank you. Thank you. Madam Secretary, please call the roll. zero, I'm sorry. I need a motion and a second motion by Assembly Member Nguyen, second by Assembly Member Alanis. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.

[Roll Call]

Thank you, Members. Thank you.

I'm handing the gavel over to the Vice Chair, Assembly Member Lackey. Thank you.

Thank. You. You may begin when you're ready.

Thank you. Mr. Chair, Members of the Committee, I'm presenting the Committee's Bill AB 1510. This is a cleanup Bill that makes various technical and conforming changes to existing laws regarding certain State employee pay and benefits and employer employee relations at the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority.

This Bill repeals an obsolete law regarding pay and benefits to state employees who were Members of the California National Guard or US Military Reserves relating to the Bosnia crisis.

Amidst various existing laws that reference this obsolete law and extends from 365 to 760 days certain pay and benefits to state employees ordered to active duty on or after September 112001 as a result of the war on terrorism.

In addition, this Bill adds necessary provisions to the existing Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority's employer employee relationship law by authorizing a party aggrieved by a decision or order of per to be filed for a writ of extraordinary relief from the decision or order in a court of competent jurisdiction.

This addition is substantially similar to the provisions that currently exist in and apply to other statewide collective bargaining status. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

All right. Thank you. You have any other witnesses in support Come forward, please go.

Good morning. Bryant Miramontes with American Federation of State County Municipal Employees and support. Just appreciate the Committee and Committee staff for their work on this Bill. Thank you.

Okay, do we have any witnesses in opposition who would like to come forward saying. None. We'll come back to the dais. Any remarks need to be made, Wish to be made. Okay, we need a motion. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Would you like to close Ma'am,?

I respectfully ask for your aye vote.

All right, thank you. Secretary, call for the roll, please.

[Roll Call]

We're going to take a quick five minute recess. We'll be back.

[Backgorund]

Secretary, please open the roll for add ons.

[Roll call]

Okay, Assembly Member, you can. You can present.

Okay. Want me to present until he gets here?

Okay. Well. For Mr. Assembly Member, Josh Hoover. Good morning, Mr. Mrs. Chair and Madam Chair and Members. He appreciates the opportunity to present AB 1233 and would like to thank the Committee staff for working closely with his office. AB 1233 would establish a statewide database of classified positions, employment.

Yes.

I'm sorry. Assembler. Hoover, you could come in and present your Bill.

Thanks, sir.

Thanks. Teamwork.

All right, so I think I heard where I left off, but AB 1233 would establish a statewide database of classified positions, employment history, including where they worked when and what positions they held, as well as records of substantiated investigations for egregious misconduct. I'm going to turn it over to my colleagues here to give their testimony.

Yes. Catch your breath and you'll have two minutes each. Thank you. Thank you.

Good morning, Madam Chair and Members. My name is Don Ogden. I'm the Associate Superintendent of Human Resources for the Folsom Cordova Unified School District. And also I'm a Member of the ACSA. Association of California School Administrators Human Resource Council. ACSA. Thanks, Assemblyman Hoover, for carrying AB 1233.

This is a proposal that the Members of our HR Council have discussed for nearly six years. Because the noted flaw in hiring system for classified employees positions is not in place to keep bad actors out of school settings and keep students safe.

School employers, despite the best efforts to conduct thorough background checks by conducting live scan, DOJ and FBI fingerprint checks and also calling known former employees lack information if the applicant does not disclose their full employment history or prior investigations for egregious misconduct.

Our classified employees are essential to so many services and so many programs and they make important contributions to our students growth and well being. Unfortunately, some bad actors are able to stay in the school setting by changing employers. Upon termination or even when there's an investigation pending, they simply leave the school employer off their application.

And because there's no record system, there's no way for a school to have a complete employment history for certificated employees. We have a system. This is a process for reporting employees. There's a process with a database for reference.

As a matter of fact, the new AB25 34 has provided requirements that all former employees are contacted and all former employees are provided by every applicant. A statewide database with egregious misconduct information could also help expedite the background checks of the right applicants.

Because we have more of a clear picture, AB 1233 will offer a critical tool to protect students and ensure their safety and well being is prioritized. I've yet to meet someone who isn't shocked that we don't have any system in place in the State of California for this purpose.

Thank you again Assemblyman Hoover and we respectfully request your support of this Bill.

Thank you.

Thank you. Madam Chair Members. Jeff Baca representing the Riverside County Superintendent of Schools. We are a co sponsor of the Bill with axa. As my colleague representing NAXA indicated, we've been working on this for close to six years now. We've gone through numerous iterations of how such a database would be structured.

And we think that what's reflected in the Bill that's before you this morning strikes a balance between achieving our goal, which is to provide LEAs with an important tool to enhance the safety of students while also providing a fair process for employees.

Ultimately, we see this issue as being one of shared responsibility to ensure that our students are safe and that incidents of egregious misconduct involving students stop once and for all. We know it is a very small minority of school employees who are responsible for these incidents.

But the database that would be created by AB 1233 will close the gap that currently exists in our ability to. To determine where those instances are taking place and will also go a long way towards reducing that number to zero. With that, I thank Assemblymember Hoover and respectfully request your Committee support for the Bill. Thank you.

Thank you. Are there any witnesses and support? Please come forward. Give your name, organization, and your position.

Good morning, Madam Chair. Members. Dorothy Johnson.

Thank you. Dorothy Johnson. On behalf of the Association of California School Administrators, but also offering support for my colleague who couldn't be here from the California Association of Suburban School Districts. Thank you.

Thank you.

Good morning, Madam Chair and Committee Members Michelle Gill. On behalf of California Association of School Business Officials. In support.

Thank you. Seeing no other witnesses in support. Are there any witnesses that would like to testify in opposition? Please come forward.

Thank you. Madam Chair. Sandra Burton. We are just expressing concerns. We want to make sure that they're noted and really do appreciate the sponsors engaging with us early so that we feel pretty confident we can get our concerns addressed. But classified employees do not receive the. Same unbiased investigation and ultimate decision on their disciplinary allegations.

So we do want to make sure. That nobody is falsely accused and then. Have their reputation and careers tarnished forever. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Mitch Steiger with cft. We also have had great conversations with. The sponsor and author's office expressed similar concerns to SEIU and also just flagged. We'd like to have a longer conversation about what types of misconduct would qualify. It seems like it's a pretty broad net. We'd like to figure out ways to maybe narrow it down to the types of crimes that are really at issue here. Thank you.

Thank you. Good morning, Madam Chair. Chris Myers with the California School Employees Association. Similar. We have concerns over kind of the broad language of the Bill and also the lack of due process rights. Really appreciate the author and the sponsors working with us on, you know, adjusting that language. Thank you.

Thank you. Are there any other witnesses in opposition? Seeing none. I'll bring it back to the dais. Are there any comments from the Members? Well, I used to be a classified employee, and I would say I have the same concerns as the others.

But of course, I'm recommending that I vote because I am sure you guys will work together. This is what I like to hear, that people come together. All the smart people come together, work on the Bill, and come out with everybody being happy. And so with that, would you like to close?

Absolutely. And I will just close by kind of stating our commitment to that. Right. We want to make sure that we Come to a place where everyone's in agreement here. Under the current Bill, the misconduct that. Is defined in education include. I mean, these are things that include the most serious sex and drug offenses involving a child.

It does not include acts involving other adults. So if there is some narrowing that needs to take place, we're happy to look at that and work with the opposition, but would greatly appreciate your support in moving this Bill forward to the Next Committee. Thank you.

Thank you. Madam Secretary. zero, I'm sorry. There was a motion by Assembly Member Berner, seconded by Assemblymember Lackey. Madam Secretary, please call the Roll.

The motion is do pass, and we refer to the Committee on education. McKenna. Aye. McKenna I. Lackey. Aye. Lackey I. El. Anise. Aye. Aye. Lanise I. Burner. Aye. Berner I. Elari. Aye. Elawari I. Garcia. Aye. Garcia I. Win. Win. I. We have seven votes. That Bill is out.

Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

Madam Secretary, can you please call the roll?

[Roll Call]

Okay, I'm going to turn the gavel over to the Vice Chair. Assembly Member Tom Lackey.

You may begin when ready, ma'am.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Members. AB 1383 makes limited revisions to the California Public Employees Pension Reform act, or pepra, to address recruitment and retention challenges among the state's first responders.

15 years ago, and in order to stabilize the state's retirement system, the Legislature made significant modification to public employee retirement benefits, including the retirement formulas, the age of the retirement, and requiring public employees to contribute more to their own retirement benefits.

While many of these changes to PEPRA are still necessary for the long term health of the retirement Fund, retirement formula reductions are a contribution factor to vacancies throughout the public sector in the state, especially with our first responders. AB 1383 does not grant retroactive retirement benefit increases or pension holidays.

It does not change other necessary and appropriate pepra guardrails. AB 1383 only applies prospectively. Recognizing the ongoing challenges and dedication of our firefighters, police and the unique challenges and risks associated with the career as a first responder.

AB 1383 represents our need to recruit and retain the next generation of the first responders needed to protect the lives and property of residents across California. And today I have with me Brian Rice, President of the California Professional Firefighters, and Lamont Nguyen, President of the Long Beach Firefighters Local 372.

Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Chairman. A little bit awkward for me, our author and chair, but I'm Brian Rice. I am the President of the California Professional Firefighters. I represent over 35,000 firefighters and emergency medical personnel throughout California. I served nearly 30 years as a firefighter right here in Sacramento.

And serving my community as a firefighter was absolutely the best career. It's the best career I could have asked for. I'm proud and I'm grateful for the work that I was able to accomplish on behalf of our community over three decades. And I wouldn't change it for anything.

But the fact remains that with each passing year, we learn more and more about how dangerous this profession really is. Where heart disease used to be the most common affliction for firefighters, it's now unquestionably cancer. Each year, cancer takes more of my Members, colleagues and friends. And the risk only keeps growing as we get older.

Pursuing a retirement age at 57. Every day spent on this job means more exposures to deadly potent carcinogens like diesel fuel, pfas, asbestos, benzene, hydrogen fluoride, off gases from electronics. As we're learning, lithium ion batteries, plastics in all forms.

There are so many substances in mixed with fire that are so toxic to the body that it can't even name them all. Each day has a cost, and it's one that we pay for with our lives a little bit at a time.

The jobs physically and mentally demanding in the extreme and asking us to work until we're 57 years old is pushing us not just to our limit, but beyond it. And I don't want to bury. I don't want to bury another friend before their time in the name of hypothetical cost savings. And that's what we're talking about here.

Were trading firefighters and police officers lives for money, period. By lowering the retirement age of firefighters and other public safety officials to 55, this Bill takes a reasonable measured steps to balance both the security of the retirement funds and protect the health of the men and women who have stepped up to protect us all.

And for their sake in the future of our profession, I strongly urge support on AB 1383 and ask for your aye vote. Thank you for this time.

Good morning, Mr. Chair, honorable Members of this Committee, my name is Lamont Nguyen. I am President of the Long Beach Firefighters Local 372. I've been serving in a capacity as a Firefighter paramedic since 2018 for the Great City of Long Beach.

I'm pleased to be here today in support of AB 1383, and I would like to thank the authority and the Committee for their Hard work and consideration on this incredibly important proposal.

I'm pleased to be here today and again, I don't want to be repetitive of the impactful comments of what President Rice has already said, but I would like to note as a firefighter who is subject to a formula with the normal retirement age at 57, I'm deeply concerned about how my body is going to handle the stress and the impact and exposures at 5556 and thus 57.

With that said, I'd like to focus my comments on the importance of the provisions of this proposal that restore collective bargaining rights for employees when it comes to their retirement benefits. As this Committee knows, collective bargaining is critical to allow employees and employers to come together and coalesce on issues impacting wages, hours and working conditions.

Current law limits our ability to bargain over critical issues like the employer and employee share of the normal costs and prospective changes in the retirement formula. As the President of a local, permission to bargain over these items does not guarantee that they will occur.

But this will allow more me to better represent all of my Members, particularly the more than half of whom were hired after 2013 who are subject to these bargaining limitations. AB 1383 restores collective bargaining rights in a manner that doesn't make any affirmative decisions, but does give us all room to discuss at the table. For all these reasons, I respectfully ask for your aye vote today. Thank you.

Okay. Do we have any other witnesses? I'm guessing we might. Please express your name, your position and who you represent,

Mr. Chair. Members Randy Perry on behalf of Porac. Co sponsors of the Bill.

Sandra Burton on behalf of SEIU California in support.

Matt Broadford, the Teamsters in support.

David Prieto, President, Hemmett Firefighters Local 2342 supporting AB 1383. Thank you,

Chair and Members Pat Moran representing the Orange County Employees Association in support.

Thank you. Good morning, Chairmembers. Obed Franco here on behalf of the California Fire Chiefs Association and the Fire District Association of California. Inspired.

Thank you. Good morning. Andrew W.H. Sacramento Area Firefighters Local 522 in strong support. Thank you.

Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Madam Chair Alberto Torio in support on behalf of the state CLO probation organizations and the California Applicant Attorney Association. Thank you.

Good morning. Jeremy Day, national city firefighters local 2744. Your rise in strong support.

Good morning. Shane Levine, on behalf of the California Statewide Law Enforcement Association and the Fraternal Order Police. Thank you. In support.

Good morning. Danny Cohes, on behalf of the California Association of Psychiatric Technicians in support. Thank you.

Good morning. Yvonne Fernandez, California Labor Federation in support.

Brian Maramontes with American Federation of State County Municipal Employees in support.

Good morning. Rob Murphy, Oakland Firefighters Local 55. This is Jack Murphy here. Strongly support this for not just myself, but future firefighters like him.

Nice. Good morning. John Bagla, President of the Marin professional firefighters local 1775. We ask for your support and thank for the consideration.

Good morning. Chris Goodspeed, Local 1775. I'm in strong support of this.

Thank you.

Good morning. Will Murphy, Local 1775 in strong support. Thank you.

Good morning. Everardo Musqueda, Marin professional firefighters local 1775 in strong support.

Good morning. Griffin Case, Marin professional firefighters local 1775 in strong support.

Nick Sagaris, Marin County area 1775 and strong support. Thank you.

Aaron Hakenin, local 1775. Marin County strong support. Thank you.

Carrick Woodward, Solace Marine Professional Firefighters Local 1775 in support.

Good morning. Arthur Bolts, Local 1775 strong support. Good morning.

Jared Meyer, Local 1775 and strong support.

Joe Petty, Sacramento Area Firefighters Local 522 in strong support.

Tarek Oaks, Sacramento Area Local Firefighters 522 strong support.

Kendall Weld, Sacramento Area Local 522 in strong support.

Philip Gross, Sacramento Firefighters Sacramento Local 522 in strong support.

Andrew Galley, here with Firefighters Local 1909. We strongly support. Andrew Beals, Harold Firefighters Local 1909. I strongly support.

Jonathan Dong, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909. We strongly Support. Kyle Means, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 strongly support.

Joe Stillwell, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 strongly Support.

Miles Higgins, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909. I strongly Support.

Frank Crespo on behalf of Local 1909. Hayward Firefighters strongly support.

Thank you.

Trevor Bantley, Hayward Fire Local 1909 strongly support.

Moises Hair, Firefighters Local 1909 in strong support.

Jackson Bulls, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909, strongly support.

Connor Cardwell, Local 1909, Hayward Firefighters strongly support.

Paul Ramos, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 in strong support.

Mitch Klimeck, Hayward Fire Local 1909 in strong support.

Brandon Kameny, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 in strong support.

Clayton Weatherly, Local 1909,strongly support.

Lucas Delgado, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 and I strongly support.

Mike Adea, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909, strong support.

Nick Spinney, Hayward Local 1909, strongly support.

Cheyenne Davis, Hayward Fire Local 1909, strongly support.

Cole B., Hayward Fire Local 1909 strongly support.

Rene Rodriguez, Hayward Fire Local 1909 strongly support this Bill.

Jason Silva, Hayward Fire Local 1909 strongly support.

Justin Silva, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 strongly support.

Dylan Reeves, Hayward 1909, strong support.

Aaron Speed, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 strongly support.

David Barali, Hayward Fire Local 1909 strongly support.

Marco Brasano, Hayward Fire Department Local 1909 strongly support.

Quentin Tartarbol, Hayward Fire Department Local 1909, strong supporter.

Mark Mendonza, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 in strong support.

Daniel Werdner, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909, here in strong support.

Nathan Armstrong, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909 in strong support.

Good morning. Matthew Cole, Sacramento Area Firefighters Local 522 here in strong support.

Eric Mortenburg, Napa City Firefighters Association Local 3124 in strong support.

James Stanick, with Napa Fires Local 3124 in strong support.

Jesse Karsich, Local 522, strong support.

Kyle Borringer, Sacramento Area Local 522, strongly support.

Seth Schachter, Local 522, strong support.

Samson Griffiths, Sacramento Area Local 522, strong support.

Ashley Pasquale, Sacramento 522 in strong support.

Cody Newcomer, Sacramento Area 522, strongly support.

Jason McCombs, Local 522, strong support.

Dominic Province, President La Mesa Firefighters Local 4759, strongly support.

Noah Hirschman, Chula Vista Firefighters Local 2180 strongly support.

Rick Soto, Chula Vista Local 2180, strong support.

Good morning, Doc Roberts, Chula Vista Firefighters Local 2180 in strong support.

Victor Reeves, Chula Vista Local 2180 strong support.

Good morning. Willie Armis, Chula Vista Local 2180, strong support.

Good morning. Charlie Martinez, Vandenberg Professional Firefighters Local F116 strong support.

Good morning. Vince Wells, Contra Costa Firefighters Local 1230, strong support.

Good morning. Guillermo Perez, Burbank Airport Fire Department Professional Firefighters, strong support.

Good morning. Samira Madzai, Hayward Local 1909 and I strongly support this Bill.

Good morning. Austin Shoal, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909, and I strongly support this.

Morning, Mason Moore, Hayward Firefighters Local 1909, strongly support this Bill.

John Diebold, Local 1909 and I strongly support this Bill.

Tom McGrady, 5523, strong support.

Good morning. David Biscow, Local 5523. I strongly support.

Austin Wu Rescue Fire Protection District Local 5523 and strong support.

Chris Buck, Hayward Local 1909, strongly support this Bill.

Woody Wade, Hayward Local 1909, strongly support.

Logan Hussey, Hayward Fire Local 1909. I strongly support.

Derek Jernette, Local 1909, strongly support.

Xavier Miller, Oakland Fire Local 55. I strongly support this Bill.

Good morning. My name is Gian Edinger. I'm with the Oakland Fire Department, Local 55 and I strongly support this Bill.

Morning. Jason Martin, Contra Costa Local 1230. I strongly support this.

Seth Oyer, President Oakland Firefighters Local 55 and I strongly support this Bill. Thank you so much.

Anthony Stevens, Contra Costa County Local 1230, I rise in support of this Bill.

Ryan Porter, Local 1230. I strongly support.

Solomon Tucker, Oakland Fire Local 55, strongly support this Bill. Thank you for considering it.

Michael Schmidt, Local 1230, Contra Costa County, strongly support.

Jacob Keel, Local 1230, strongly support.

E. Shevchenko, Oakland Fire, Local 55, I strongly support this Bill.

Clayton Davis, Oakland Fire Department, Local 55, and I strongly support the Bill.

Matthew Dingman, Local 1230, Contra Costa County, strongly support.

Ryan Munekawa, Oakland Fire Local 55, strongly support.

Dara Jalili, Local 1230, Contra Costa County Fire, strongly support this Bill.

Brian Kalia, Oakland Fire Local 55, strongly support it. Thank you.

Cody Cross, Contra Costa County Fire Local 1230, strongly support.

Gabe Cottrell, Sacramento City Fire Department, Local 522, I strongly support this plan.

John Gregory Harris, Oakland Firefighters Local 55. I strongly support this.

Sam Kane, Oakland Firefighters Local 55. I strongly support this Bill.

Raul Hurtado, Oakland Firefighters Local 55. I strongly support this.

Christopher Dean, Chico Fire. I strongly support this.

Ken Smith, Chico Firefighters Local 2734, strongly support this Bill.

Chris Peters, Oakland Fire. Local 55, strongly support this Bill.

Matt Fenzel, Local 1186, City of Vallejo, strongly support this Bill. Thank you.

Kevin Brown, City of Vallejo Fire Local 1186, in support of AB 1383. Thank you.

Michael Gomez, Local 20400 North County Fire Authority, Pacifica, support this Bill. Thank you.

Scott Parham, Local 2100, City of Pacifica, strongly support this Bill.

Kyle Lechleiter, Local 2400, City of Pacifica I strongly support this Bill.

Jake Wilkerson, Local 2400, Daly City strongly support this Bill.

Nick Gracia, Local 2400, San Mateo County Firefighters strongly support this Bill.

Patrick Anderson, City of Riverside Fire Department Local 1067, strongly support this Bill.

Cesar Rodriguez, Riverside City Firefighters Association 1067 in strong support of this Bill.

Mike Detoi, President of Riverside City Firefighters, strongly support this Bill. Thank you.

Austin Guillen, Daly City Fire Department Local 2400. We are strongly in support of this Bill. Thank you.

Mark Agaki, Local 2400, San Mateo County, in strong support of this Bill.

Jordan Ray, San Marcos Professionals Firefighters Association Local 4184 strongly support this Bill.

Matt Drabinski, Local 4184, strong support.

Justin Neufeld, Local 2400 in strong support.

Will Fitzsimmons, Menlo Park Fire Local 2400, strongly support. Thank you.

Steve Lucero, Local 689, Alameda Firefighters strongly in support.

Alex Pearlstein, Menlo Park Fire Local 2400, strongly in support. Thank you.

Anthony Thompson, Local 689, Alameda Firefighters in full support.

Good morning. Nick Van Laningham, Daly City Fire Department Local 2400, strong support.

Good morning. Sean Conway, Alameda Firefighters Local 689, strong support.

Good morning. Hayden Olson, with Alameda Firefighters Local 689 and I'm in full support.

Good morning. Matt Van Waden, San Mateo Consolidated Local 2400, full support.

Good morning. Royce Copan, Coronado Fire Department, Coronado Firefighters Local 1475 in support of this Bill. Thank you.

Tony, local 1014, strong support.

Vita Mazanga, Coronado Firefighters, strong support.

Good morning. Chris Cullen, Los Angeles County Firefighters Local 1014, strong support.

Good morning. Brendan Green, Coronado 1475, very strong support.

Good morning. Christain Reynoso, Los Angeles County Firefighters Local 1014 and strong support.

Good morning. David Zalutski, Local 1230, Contra Costa County Fire. Strong support. Thank you.

Dennis Young, Dennis Young, President Anaheim Firefighters Local 2899, strong support of this Bill. Thank you.

Jason Barlow, Anaheim Firefighters 2899, strong support. Thank you.

Morning. Jeremy Kunkel, Anaheim Firefighters Local 2899, strong support. Thank you.

Good morning. Steve Cathy, President, Costa Mesa Firefighters Local 1465 in strong support. Thank you.

Good morning. Kyle Brossmer, Costa Mesa Firefighters Local 1465, Secretary in strong support.

Good morning. Gerardo Preciado, Livermore Pleasanton Firefighters Local 1974 in strong support. Thank you.

Good morning. Samuel Willis, Local 1171, City Santa Clara, in strong support. Thank you.

Morning. Ryan Silver, Fullerton Firefighters Local 3421 in strong support.

Good morning. Steve Muting, Local 3421, Fullerton Firefighters and strong support.

Good morning. Gip Maidas, Local 3421, Fullerton Firefighters and strong support.

Good morning. Sean Burrows, President of the Alameda County Firefighters. Local 55 in strong support.

Morning. Joseph Garner, Local 55, strong support.

Good morning. Adrian Gardea, Local 522 in strong support.

Nicholas Romero, Local 55, strong support.

Mark Villamore, Local 55 showing support.

Mike Augustine, Local 55 and fire captain, strongly support.

Sean Furter, Local 55, strong support.

Zach Sidrosno, Local 522, strong support.

Jacob Olock, Local 522, strong support.

Katie O'Gorman, Local 55, strong support.

Judy Gomez, Local 689, strong support.

Justin Tan, Local 522, strong support.

Nick Pershing, Local 522, strong support.

Julian Ludwig, Local 522, strong support.

Theodore Toole, Local 522, strong support.

Jeff Weidler, Local 689, Alameda Firefighters and I'm in strong support.

Philip Fernandez, Secretary Local 689, strong support.

Sean Rogers, Local 689. I'm in strong support.

Dylan Crawford, Local 689, strong support.

David Hall, Contra Costa County, 1230. Strong support.

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George Hardeman, Rancho Cucamonga Fire. Local 2274, strong support.

Ashley Carter, Rancho Manga Fire Local 2274, strong support.

Good morning. Ben Kim, President Local 689, Alameda City and strong support. Thank you.

Jeff Chapani, Ontario Professional Firefighters. Local 1430, in strong support.

Neil Gamboa, Ontario. 1430, strong support.

Tony Cascarano, Local 1430, Ontario, strong supporter.

Dave Charleston, Local 1430 and strong support.

Steve Aldama, Local 1430 and strong support.

Joel Magrina, Ontario Firefighters, Local 1430 instrong support.

Good morning. Reginald Todd, Murrieta Fire Rescue Local 3540, strong support.

Andy Staying, Murrieta Firefighters Local 3540 in strong support.

Andre Hernandez, Murrieta Fire and Rescue, Local 3540, strongly support. God bless you guys.

Alex Devereaux, Lakeside Fires Local 4488, strongly support. Thank you.

Hi. Emily Devereaux, wife of Alexander Devereaux for Lakeside Fire. I strongly support this.

Gustavo Lopez, Alameda Firefighters Local 689, strongly support. Thank you.

Good morning. Scott Webb, Sacramento Area Local 522 and I support this Bill.

Morning. Alex Bates, Sacramento 522 and I support this Bill. Thank you.

Morning. Chris Ham, Orange County Professional Firefighters Local 3631 we fully support this Bill.

Trevor Jamison, Sacramento Area Firefighters, strong support of this Bill. Thank you.

Good morning. Kendall Futum, Sacramento Area Firefighters 522 and I strongly support this Bill.

Good morning. Dustin Rodriguez, Sacramento Area Local Firefighters 522 I strongly support this Bill.

Good morning. Justin Lagassa, Tracy Firefighters Association in strong support of this Bill.

Good morning. Stephen Pine, Tracy Firefighters Association Local 3355 strong support of the Bill.

Good morning. Chad Hanville, Tracy Fires Local 3355 strong support.

Good Morning, Justin De Hart, Local 3355 in strong support.

Good morning. Jeremiah Salute, Tracy Firefighters Local 3355 I strongly support

Morning Adam Steudman Local Firefighters 3355 Street C Fire, strong support.

Morning. Ryan Aguilar, Local 3355 strong supporter.

Esther Blake, Local 522 strongly support.

Damien Bertone, Local 552 strongly support.

Noah Wilson, Local 522 strongly support.

Ben Zahniser, Local 522 strong support.

Ryan Kresich, Local 522 I strongly support.

Logan Faulkner, Local 522 strongly support.

Brendan Neal, Local 522 I strongly support.

Tynan House Local 522 strongly support.

Ty Bettencourt, Local 522 and I'm in strong support.

Todd Holmes, Carlsbad Firefighters Local 3730 strong support.

Drew Bessant, Carlsbad Local 3730 and strong support.

Anthony Walker, Oceanside Firefighters Local 3736 strong support.

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Chris Wilson, Oceanside Firefighters in strong support.

Anthony Valentine, Local 3736 strong support.

Brian Mitchell, Oceanside Local 3736 Firefighters very strong support.

Mike Saldania, Vista Firefighters Association Local 4107 strong support.

Good morning. Brian Suraine, CAL FIRE Firefighters Local 2881 we're in strong support.

Ben Rogers, CAL FIRE Local 2881 strong support.

Brandon Barrett, CAL FIRE Local 2881 strong support.

Caneli Martin, CAL FIRE Local 2881 strong support.

Cameron Simmental, Davis Fire Local 3494 strong support.

Joe Simeone, City of Davis Firefighters Local 3494 strongly support.

William Puna, Davis Local 3494 in strong support.

Darren Faronda Davis Local 3494 strong support.

Connor Delaney. Davis Local 3494 in strong support.

Matt Fix, Davis Firefighters Local 3494 strong strong support.

Matt Galloway, Davis Firefighters Local 3494 strongly support this Bill.

Marcus Lincoln Dixon Professional Firefighters Association 4665 strongly support.

Andrew Tomaloso Dixon Professional Firefighters Local 4665 strong support.

Justin Hemjay Dixon Professional Firefighters Association Local 4665 strong support.

Dakota Davis, Sacramento Area Local 522 in strong support.

Luis Ramos. Local 522 strong support.

Anthony Davis. Local 522 and strong support.

Alex Carbo, Santa Barbara City Firefighters Local 525, strong support.

Dana Rayfield, Santa Cruz Area Local 3,535 in strong support.

Carl Jewell. Local 522 Sacramento Area Firefighter. I'm a strong supporter.

Travis Cribillo, Santa Cruz 3535 strong support.

Rick Andrews. Local 3535 Central Santa Cruz, strong support.

Dan Panamate. Local 3535 Central Santa Cruz, strongly support.

Vitali Zanco. Sacramento Area Local 522 and I strongly support the measure.

Ryan Brown. Local 522, Sacramento and I strongly support this measure.

Tom Conley. Local 522 Sacramento Area Firefighters in strong support.

Scott Owen. Sacramento Area Local 522 strongly support.

Anthony Baumgart. Local 522 and I strongly support.

Christopher Outchurch. Local 552 strong support.

Dylan Cole. Local 522 Sacramento and I strongly support.

Devin Sapp. Local 522 Sacramento and I strongly support this measure.

Alex Eislinger. Sacramento Area 522 strongly support.

Chris Harrington. Sacramento Local 522 strongly support.

Kirsch Medina. Local 522 Sacramento and I support this Bill.

Brian Lopez. Local 522 Sacramento. I strongly support.

Michael Gomez. Local 522 Sacramento and I strongly support.

Eric Howard. Local 522. I strongly support.

Amado Rios. Local 522 Sacramento, strong support.

Matt Kobe. Local 522 strongly support.

Max Dietrich. Local 522 strong support.

Arthur Lutzick. Local 522 strongly support.

Nazari Prasupa. Local 522 Sacramento. I strongly support.

Morning, Michael Chance, Gilroy. Local 2805 strongly support.

Ian Nicholas, Gilroy Fire Local 2805, in strong support.

Good morning. Peyton Turner, Local 285 from Gilroy. I strongly support

Stephen Hayes, Local 25. I strongly support this Bill.

Herb Lee, Gilroy Firefighters Association, Local 25 and I strongly support this.

Aaron Brinkman, Apple Valley 4742, strongly support.

Dylan Tavolazzi, Apple Valley Firefighters 4742. I strongly support.

Tyler McDaniel, Apple Valley Local 4742 and strong support.

My name is Artie Solis, Orange County Fire Authority Local 3631. I strongly support.

Hunter Pedrosian, Local 3631, Orange County Fire as well, and I strongly support this.

Nathan Goldie, Local 3631, Orange County Professional Firefighters and I support as well.

Jeffrey Galvin with the Orange County Professional Firefighters Local 3631 and I'm in strong support of AB1383.

Good morning. John Herschelman, firefighter with Orange County Fire Authority Local 3631 and I'm strong support of this Assembly Bill. Thank you.

Morning. Jonathan White, Local 3631. Strong support for this Bill.