Hearings

Assembly Standing Committee on Budget

June 25, 2025
  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Good morning everybody. Welcome to today's informational hearing of the Assembly Budget Committee. Today's informational hearing is going to go over our budget bill and the trailer bills which are reflective of our final three party agreement with the Governor's office. And we expect votes on these bills on the floor on Friday and also on next Monday.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    For today, we will hear from Jessica Holmes from the Department of Finance who will present on the bills. We also have an opportunity for Ross Brown from the Legislative Analyst Office to comment. We will then open it up to questions and comments from Members of the Committee. And finally, we will conclude with an opportunity for public comment.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Before we do begin, I just wanted to share a few brief thoughts. First of all, mostly just thank yous to those who have brought us to this moment.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And I want to thank our partners at the Department of Finance for their collaboration in this work, for partnering with us on an approach that would ground it in our twin goals of compassion and fiscal responsibility.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And I also want to thank them because when we gathered last time to discuss our legislative budget, we talked about the need to continue to protect our most vulnerable communities while also making more progress on our out year challenges. And I'm glad that our final agreement does that.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And so I want to thank again all of the staff at the Department of Finance for their hard work, their collaboration, and if Joe Stepenshaw is watching, just want to particularly thank him for his partnership on this effort.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    As always, want to thank our exceptionally talented and hardworking budget sub chairs who have been the centerpiece of this effort from the very beginning. I know many of them were required to make tough choices and balance a lot of competing interests.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And I just want to thank you for the thoughtfulness and the scale with which you have approached this challenging task. And then also, of course, a thank you to all of the staff that have worked day and night over the past couple weeks to finalize this agreement.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    So thank you, of course, to our very talented and hardworking Assembly Budget Committee staff, to the Republican staff who have worked hard on this process, the staff in many of our personal offices, and then of course the folks at the Department of Finance and ledge counsel who are working late into the night, many hours to make this possible.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    As I said when we gathered last time to discuss our legislative budget, this is a product of a lot of tough choices. As I mentioned, it was at times an agonizing process as we grappled with the choices in front of us.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    But I am, I do feel really good about the work that we did to ground this in both compassion and fiscal responsibility to make sure that we are protecting our safety net programs for the most vulnerable and at the same time putting our state on a stronger path to fiscal resiliency and also preserving flexibility.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    As we have discussed from the very beginning of this year, we know that there are tremendous challenges ahead of us, particularly challenges from Washington D.C. that may be coming our way. And so the work we have done to preserve flexibility and prepare ourselves for those challenges ahead is important.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    So with that, I want to again thank everybody who's been part of this process. Also thank the sergeants as always for taking such good care of us. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to our Vice Chair for any opening remarks.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    There we are. Just want to say thank you to the chair, to all of our colleagues, and certainly a shout out to the Republican staff that worked their tails off over the last 24 hours.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    When you have, you know, 20 plus Trailer bills dropped on you, it's a lot of effort and I can't imagine drafting those in the first place, but I just simply reviewing them takes a lot of effort. So to the staff, thank you for your service. We appreciate that very much. To Joe, thank you.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    And to the dental crack staff, this has not been easy for you. I want to acknowledge that, you know, there may be things in here that I don't necessarily agree with or love, but I know that the hearts are in the right spot.

  • Heath Flora

    Legislator

    And we talked about the last budget cycle where doing the most amount of good for the most amount of people. And I think hopefully as we go through these trailer bills we will see that. And with that I just appreciate everybody's time. Thanks.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Assemblymember and with that I will turn it over to the Department of Finance for the presentation of the bills.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Good morning. Good morning. Chair Gabriel and Vice Chair Flora and Members of the Budget Committee. Jessica Holmes with the Department of Finance to present on the budget agreement between the Administration and the Legislature as identified at the May revision, California was and continues to face uncertain economic and fiscal times.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    After two years of solving for multibillion dollar budget deficits, we are once again dealing with the situation that requires additional solutions to balance our budget. We have pulled back a lot of our one time investments as well as made other reductions with the goal to maintain our priority investments.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Program costs have continued to outpace revenues at the same time that we face the threat of significant reductions in federal support and therefore we had to make very difficult decisions to balance this budget in the next fiscal year as well as Address growing costs.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The budget agreement includes significant ongoing reductions to some of the costliest of our state programs, including. However, it maintains investments to the core of our health and safety net programs that support Californians that need them the most. It takes a balanced approach given the economic uncertainty driven by federal policies. With that, Mr.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Chair, would you like me to begin with AB and SB102?

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    That would be great. Thank you.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Thank you. All right. A.B. I'm sorry. A.B. 102 budget Bill junior this is. This Bill is a budget Bill junior that amends SB 101, the Legislature's proposed budget for 2025 and includes many significant adjustments. I'll highlight a few in each budget.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Area in natural resources environmental protection, the budget includes a shift of 1 billion from the General Fund to the Greenhouse gas reduction Fund to support CAL FIRE's fire protection activities in 2025-26.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The budget includes 39 million General Fund in 2025-26 and 78 million General Fund in 2026-27 and ongoing to begin transitioning a portion of Firefighter 1 positions assigned to hand crews within the Department of Forestry and Fire Protection to a permanent firefighter employment classification.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    It includes approximately 170 million in accelerated climate bond funding to conservancies from forest and vegetation management. Across the state. Yeah, across the state. In education, the Proposition 98 minimum guarantee for 2025-26 is 114.6 billion total. But however, I would note that total Proposition 98 appropriations for 2025 are approximately 118 billion.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The budget creates a $1.9 billion settle up obligation in 202425. Also in education, the budget provides 2.1 billion ongoing Proposition 98 General Fund to support universal transitional kindergarten making TK available to all 4 year olds in the 25-26 school year. In higher education, the University of California has 129.71,000,000 one time General Fund deferred.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    This is in relation to a 3% reduction that was proposed at May revision. This comes a deferral from 25-26 to 26-27. Likewise for the California State University, the budget includes a one time deferral of the 3% CSU baseline at 143,800,000 one time.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Both UC and CSU have provisional language to authorize them to request a no interest short term cash flow loan from the General Fund to remediate the impacts of this deferral in the budget year.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    In housing, this Bill includes 4.2 million to support the reorganization of the business, consumer services and housing agency that's 4.2 million in the budget year and 6.4 million ongoing.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    In relation to collective bargaining, the budget includes 213.6 million for employee compensation, health care costs for active state employees and retiree health care pre funding contributions for active employees in 2025-26.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    In transportation, the budget includes 25 million in 2025-26 to establish the Clean California Community Cleanup and Employment Pathway Grant program, which will address litter and Graffiti abatement efforts, foster community engagement and create career pathways.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    In General government, the budget includes 79 million General Fund in 2025-26 to backfill insufficient ERAF amounts from 23-24 in Alpine, Mono and San Mateo counties for cannabis control, the Bill effectuates statutory changes included in AB/SB 141 by shifting resources from the Cannabis Control Fund to the Cannabis Tax Fund to allow the Department of Cannabis Control to sustain existing enforcement activities without imposing fee increases on existing licensees.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    In the Business, Consumer Services and Housing Agency space contingent upon the 2025 governor's reorganization plan taking effect, the Bill includes funds to support the reorganization of the Business, Consumer Services and Housing Agency and the creation of the Housing Development and Finance Committee in addition to the Business and Consumer Services agency, the budget includes 51,000,000 one time General Fund in 2025 to expand the College Corps, an 84 million General Fund in 2026-27 and ongoing for the continuation of the program.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    In Human services, the budget includes funding to continue implementing the foster Care tiered rate structure which includes resources for state operations as well as local assistance, funding for child and adolescent needs and strengths, Fidelity tools and training activities.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    It also includes one time allocations of 83.8 million General Fund for the Home Safe program, 81 million General Fund for bringing families home and and 44.6 million General Fund for HDAP in corrections and public safety.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The budget provides 1001,000,000 one time General Fund to be spent across three years to multiple departments to Fund Proposition 36 implementation in health, the Bill Implements various General Fund solutions in the MEDI Cal program, including savings from the implementation of a rebate aggregator to secure state rebates for MEDI Cal Members with Unsatisfactory Immigration status and ongoing General Fund savings associated with the elimination of specialty weight loss drugs effective January 1, 2026 including glucod, GLP1.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Finally, in the health space, the Budget and Proposition 35 Expenditure Plan includes 303.9 million total Fund in 2025-26 for reproductive health programs. That concludes my presentation. Happy to take any questions.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Now ask our friends at the Department of Finance if they have any Oh , did you want to go ahead and go through the rest of the trailer bills? Let's do that.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Certainly. Okay. I'll start with SB/AB 103. This is the 2024 Budget Bill Junior Budget Bill Junior Number Nine.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    This Bill includes several amendments to the 2024 Budget act, including in relation to sections 90 and 91 of the Budget Act of 2024, which authorized augmentations of up to 22.5 billion for response and recovery efforts related to the Eaton and Palisades fire.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    And in January 2025, this Bill makes amendments to expand eligibility to these to these funds under the property tax backfill provisions to include dependent special districts in addition to independent special districts for Clean Cars for All, this Bill eliminates the requirement for the Air Resources Board to allocate a minimum of 125 million for the statewide clean cars for all in the 2022 budget.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    And in Education, this Bill adjusts funding for special education financial financial aid programs to better align with needs. The Bill includes reappropriations totaling 357.8 million from the 2022 and 2023 budget acts to allow the Department of Corrections to cover a current year deficiency.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Additionally, the Bill includes a net zero shift of expenditure authority in the current year to support two items where deficiencies exist. And finally, the Bill allocates existing funds totaling 12 million for reparations to implement related legislation and to educate the public on the findings of the California Reparations Task Force Report.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Moving on to AB/SB116 the 2025 Health Omnibus Bill this Bill institutes an enrollment freeze for full scope Medi Cal expansion for adults 19 and older beginning January 1, 2026. The Bill includes ongoing General Fund savings associated with the implementation of a $30 monthly premium per individual for adults age 19 to 59 with unsatisfactory immigration status.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Effective July 1, 2027. The budget includes ongoing General Fund savings associated with the elimination of dental benefits for adults age 19 and older with unsatisfactory immigration status. Effective July 1, 2027. The Bill includes prospective payment system payments to federally qualified health centers and rural health clinics.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The Bill includes effective January 1, 2026 requires MEDI Cal Members to obtain a drug removed from the contracted drug list through the prior authorization process. Effective January 1, 2026.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The Bill reinstates the MEDI Cal asset limit at $130,000 for an individual and 65,000 DOL additional household number when determining medi Cal eligibility for applicants or Members whose eligibility is not based on modified adjusted gross income.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Financial Methods in the Department of Public Health, it requires the Department of Public Health to adopt emergency regulations to establish staffing ratio requirements for acute psychiatric hospitals no later than January 31, 2027 and to make permanent those regulations by July 30, 31st, 2027 or sooner. Moving on to AB 118.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The Human Services Omnibus this Bill proposes revisions to the Juvenile Justice Realignment Block Grant formula commencing in 26-27.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    The revisions include new variables that capture youth who are not committed to secure youth treatment facilities and youth who are transferred from a secure youth treatment facility to an LRP, differentiating between Title 15 LRPs, LRPs licensed by the Board of State and Community corrections and non title 15 LRPs community, which are community based LRPs not licensed by the Board of State and Community Corrections.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    It includes statutory changes to clarify the use of Adoption Assistance Program funds for out of home placements in out of state residential treatment facilities.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    It requires the state and counties to pay 50% of the amount of lost enhanced federal financial participation due to late reassessments for the Community First Choice Option program for fiscal year 2025-26, and it requires counties to pay 100% of the lost enhanced federal financial participation from the late Community First Choice Option reassessments beginning on July 12026.

  • Jessica Holmes

    Person

    Moving on to AB120. This is the Early Learning and Child Care Omnibus.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill includes this bill includes statutory cost of living I'm sorry. This bill suspends the statutory cost of living adjustment for child care programs but extends and increases the monthly cost of care plus payments for all subsidized child care providers through June 30, 2026.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It extends the existing reimbursement based on enrollment policy for all subsidized child care providers through June 30, 2026 and suspends the statutory cost of living adjustment for 2025-26 and codifies that funding for future cost of living adjustments will be implemented as a rate increase for all subsidized child care providers.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    AB121 Education Finance this is the Education Omnibus Budget Trailer Bill. This bill allocates 1.7 billion one time Prop 98 General Fund for the Student Support and Professional development discretionary block GR to provide LEAs with additional fiscal support to address rising costs as well as Fund statewide priorities.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill provides 480 million one time Prop 98 General Fund to support literacy instruction aligned with the English Language Arts English Language Development Framework for all students, including for literacy coaches at high need schools, evidence based professional learning and literacy for elementary school teachers and screening kindergarten through second grade students for risk of reading difficulties.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The bill includes 400 million one time Prop 98 General Fund to support teachers and improve access to the educator pipeline. Provides 160 million one time Prop 98 General Fund to support the implementation of universal school meals including funds for infrastructure and training, healthy food procurement and recruitment and retention of food service workers.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The Bill lowers the average student to adult ratio from 12 to 1 to 10 to 1 in every TK classroom and includes intent language that allocates up to 1.9 billion in 2024-25 Prop 98 settle up funds to reduce ongoing deficits and protect core program funding for school districts and community colleges.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Relatedly, AB123 defers 408.4 million of student centered funding formula apportionments to community colleges. This deferral is scheduled for repayment in July 2026 and helps avoid cuts to community college base funding.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The bill appropriates 60 million one time Prop 98 General Fund to establish the Student Support Block Grant for community college districts to support student needs, including assistance to students with food, housing, transportation and other basic needs.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It provides 25 million one time Prop 98 General Fund to develop a career passport that provides individuals with a secure digital tool that displays their preparation for employment, academic records and credit for prior learning. It also provides 15 million one time Prop.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    98 General Fund for the Credit for Prior Learning Initiative A community college system wide initiative to award degree applicable or certificate applicable credit for prior student learning at each campus. AB124 is the resources and Environmental Protection Trailer Bill. This bill would enact various changes related to resources and environmental protection programs.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Most notably, it increases the forester registration fees and begins transitioning a portion of seasonal firefighter positions within the Department of Forestry and Fire Protection to a permanent classification starting with those assigned to hand crews, and expresses the Legislature's intent to transition the remainder of the seasonal firefighter positions to a permanent classification upon appropriation of funding for that purpose.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It also makes various other changes to the Department of Water Resources, State Water Resources Control Board, Department of Parks and Recreation and Bay Conservation and development Commission statutes AB127 is the Energy and Climate Trailer Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill would enact various changes related to energy and climate programs, most notably including a fee restructuring of the Clean Energy Commission's opt in and application for certification permitting programs, an expansion of the Energy Commission's ability to contract with new types of block grant administrators for its Clean Transportation Program and various technical cleanup to the Energy Commission, Department of Water Resources and California Air Resources Board statutes.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The Bill also appropriates 132 million from the Air Pollution Control Fund in 2025-26 to the California Air Resources Board for the Hybrid and Zero Emission Truck and Bus Voucher Incentive project from settlement funds resulting from the Hinu motors consent decree. AB127. Oh, I'm sorry, I just did that one. Moving on to AB128, the transportation trailer Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill would make various changes related to transportation. Most notably, the Trailer Bill includes provisions related to streamlining in advance of the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles, delays of certain DMV activities in light of the Motor Vehicle Account Fund condition, and reestablishing a fee needed to support the DMV's digital experience platform project.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It also includes an appropriation for Caltrans to begin to to begin up to 20 million in Olympics related capital work in 2025-26 if capital needs are identified. AB129 is the labor Trailer Bill. This bill implements the following notable labor proposals.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It requires the Department of Human Resources, in collaboration with the Department of Social Services to appoint a statewide bargaining Advisory Committee to review the full cost of care for in home supportive services under a statewide collective bargaining model and for the Committee to submit a series of reports on key issues associated with any transition to statewide bargaining.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Among other things, ensures that specified State employees specifically CEAs are eligible for non industrial disability insurance benefits as of July 1, 2025 and makes 584 million supplemental pension payment to CalPERS in partial fulfillment of Prop. 2 debt repayment obligations. AB130 is the housing and Homelessness Trailer Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This streamlines housing production including creating a statewide Vehicle miles Traveled Mitigation banking program as a flexible option for developers to meet existing CEQA obligations.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Under this option, developers could pay a fee that will support vehicle miles travel deficient affordable housing near transit Expanding existing CEQA streamlining tools to accelerate infill housing production including the provision of AB 609 modifying the renter's Credit the budget Specifically the budget agreement includes a trigger item whereby if specified in a future budget Bill with an appropriation potentially beginning with tax year 2026, the renter's credit would be modified as follows.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The existing non refundable credit amounts would be increased from their current levels of $60 for single filers and and 120 for joint filers to 250 for renters with no dependents and 500 for renters with at least one dependent regardless of filing status.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Imposing a moratorium on the adoption of new state and local building standards affecting residential units for six years through 2031 with certain exemptions. Addressing affordability for tenants and homeowners through a number of provisions that restrict monetary penalties by homeowners associations and protect homeowners from harm on mortgage debts they think were closed.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Enabling the Department of Housing and Community Development to recycle previous funding by enabling developers to withdraw cash from existing HCD projects to promote the preservation, rehabilitation or development of additional affordable housing projects.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Would note that there will be another housing Trailer Bill AB131 that will include provisions to improve the clarity and efficiency of CEQA processes and additional homeless Housing Assistance and Prevention Program Appropriation Details AB132 is a tax omnibus bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill includes several tax policies and does the following for the covered battery Embedded Waste Recycling Fee Requires marketplace facilitators to remit this fee to the Department of Tax and Fee Administration on behalf of marketplace sellers for the Film Tax Credit expansion Increases the allocation cap under the film tax credit program 4.0 from 330 million per year to 750 million per year from 2025-26 to 202930 excludes from income tax for state tax purposes up to $20,000 in military retirement income from tax for tax years 2025 through 2029 for military retirees below a certain certain income threshold and excludes from income for state tax purposes all wildfire settlement payments paid from 2021 through 2029.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The bill also includes a mandatory single sales factor for financial institutions. Moves financial institutions from three factor to single sales factor apportionment beginning in tax year 2025. Moving on to AB 134. This is the Public Safety Trailer Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The Public Safety Trailer Bill authorizes the Board and State of Community Corrections in cases where the BSCC does not accept a county's corrective action plan to bring civil action against a county to enforce compliance with minimum standards for juvenile facilities in the Superior Court in the county in which a facility is located.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It appropriates 51 million one time General Fund to the Department of Justice to establish the Tribal Police Pilot Program which grants tribal law enforcement officers of specified tribes State peace officer authority on Indian land and elsewhere in the state under specified circumstances.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It also provides incarcerated full time college students with the same privileges received by incarcerated full time workers which allows these students to work or participate in additional programming beyond their college classes. AB 136 is the courts Trailer Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This Trailer Bill streamlines additional judicial branch reports to consolidate those submitted to the Legislature, eliminates the jury duty Pilot program consistent to address the budget shortfall, authorizes the sale of four judicial branch buildings and appropriates 4.71 million one time General Fund to backfill the State Court facilities construction Fund. AB 137 is the General Government Trailer Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This Trailer Bill increases the Department of Financial Protection and Innovation's fees across various programs to sustain the Department's operations and program costs and to address the long term solvency of the Financial Protection Fund.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Extends the sunset for the Climate Catalyst Program that provides financing and credit support for eligible infrastructure projects consistent with the state's climate goals through December 31, 2031. AB 139 is the Trailer Bill for state bargaining units 9 and 12.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill makes necessary statutory changes to ratify and implement a memorandum of understanding between the State and bargaining units nine, the professional engineers and an addendum to an MOU between the state and budget I'm sorry bargaining unit 12, the operating engineers. AB 140 is the Trailer Bill for state bargaining unit six.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill makes necessary statutory changes to ratify and implement a memorandum of understanding between the State and bargaining unit 6 which are for correctional officers. AB141 is the cannabis Trailer Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    This bill authorizes the Department of Cannabis Control to receive cannabis tax funding to support the reasonable cost for enforcement against unauthorized commercial cannabis activity and and the Track and Trace program. This allows the Department to sustain existing enforcement activities without imposing fee increases on existing licensees. It amends the Cannabis Tax Fund, which is Prop.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    64 amends those grants issued by the Board of State and Community Corrections to be awarded to local governments if it either allows the retail sale of cannabis in storefronts or allows for cannabis delivery in jurisdictions that serve both medicinal and adult use consumers with a population of 10,000 instead of 3,500 residents or less, and requires the Board of State and Community Corrections to prioritize grant awards for local government whose grant application includes illicit cannabis enforcement.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    AB142 is the second energy Trailer Bill. This bill extends the surcharge supporting the deaf and disabled telecommunications program at the CPUC until December 31, 2024. The surcharge expired on January 1, 2025. And I believe that brings us to the last Trailer Bill that we have on the agenda today.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you very much. We will now have an opportunity for Ross Brown from the LAO's office any observations you'd wish to share.

  • Ross Brown

    Person

    Thank you, Mr. Chair, Vice Chair and Members. Ross Brown with the LAO. We don't have any prepared remarks today. But I'm here with some of our. Staff and we're available for questions.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. I appreciate that. And I also do want to acknowledge that we have Christian Griffith with the Assembly Budget Committee who's here to help answer questions as well. With that, I want to bring it back to Members of the Committee for questions or comments. I know that Mr. Ramos and Mr. Lee

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Well, thank you Mr. Chair, and thank you to the staff that's there. And certainly as Chair of sub 6 and Public Safety Committee, I want to thank Jennifer Kim and Bernie Orozco for all the hard work we've done this year.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    And I want to thank Chair Gabriel and the speaker and the Senate Pro Tem and the Governor's office for all the work that's gone into this budget.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    In this final budget, this plan largely preserves many of the investments for public safety that was part of the Legislature's plan, including funding for Proposition 36 that supports behavioral health courts and probation. The funding includes data requirements so that we can get a sense of the impact to the counties.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Also, this plan also maintains, through bipartisan effort, $100 million for Voca and adds $10 million for family justice centers statewide.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    We also preserved funding for rehabilitative programs through the Wright Grant, also funding to address sexual abuse inside women's prisons, which we had a hearing on, and resources to help CDCR reduce its reception processing time to get people into programming faster, which would generate savings for the State of California.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    This plan also preserves ongoing funding for the California Highway Patrol and the Internet Crimes Against Children's Task Forces to address child sexual abuse material.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Also, the Public Safety Trailer Bill includes an important component for California's first people in helping to address the missing and murdered Indigenous women's crisis by moving forward on a public safety on tribal lands through a pilot tribal pilot program that would deal with PL 280 and jurisdictional divides in these times of fiscal challenges and political uncertainty.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    I am thankful that this plan preserves many of the priorities that are important to the people of the State of California. We also want to highlight the work that's been done to make sure that we have a military tax exemption for our veterans who retire in the State of California.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Also acknowledging funding for California Indian Nations College to make sure that we do have a tribal college here in the State of California that has the highest population of Native Americans in any other state in the nation.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Also highlighting foster families 31.5 million to stabilize the foster family agencies across the State of California and also another really important issue for California's first people is the maintaining of the tribal monument on the Capitol grounds.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    We also were involved in the CEQA component, dealing with the housing component, working on the priority from the Assembly and the Senate and the Governor's Office on making sure that housing moved forward. Four weeks ago, the question on Cultural Resources Protection if CEQA would be exempted came up in a meeting.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    After bringing this forward, I immediately started working on this issue and negotiation took place. What is on this issue today and what was heard in AB130 I immediately started working to address those issues to make sure that there was a voice of California's first people during this process.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Negotiation took place and the Trailer Bill Language is the result of this hard work. Upon reaching agreement on components, I emailed language out to several tribal governments and several letters of support came in to support the work that was being done and different tribal letters came in and others also were negotiating.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    In negotiations we always don't get everything we want, but this is a great step forward. It does not solve all issues, but it is a great compromise that allows a state to move forward to fulfill the state's responsibility to provide affordable housing to those in the State of California.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Components agreed upon with input from tribes include areas to protect AB52 process with some additional components While there are some who feel we didn't go far enough, we also need to make sure that when we negotiate issues, negotiation is a process of give and take.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    And as a Member, as a Member of a California Indian tribe who still conducts reburials, we know that that voice is important to make sure that our voices are being heard. When four weeks ago we weren't even acknowledged in this Bill.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Today we have components that move forward and we believe we address those issues moving forward, which was only done when we actually come together and start to work in areas that we worked on, including in this area in the overviews.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Have binding conditions of approval when these projects move forward, which include for the first time tribal monitoring that would be paid by the developer. Project applicant would pay for these monitoring costs. Avoidance of tribal cultural resources where feasible, cultural appropriate treatment and documentation.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Making sure that record search are being done and to adhere to the Sacred Lands Inventory request to the Native American Heritage Commission. Compliance with Health and Safety code for human remains and reburials. We still conduct reburials for our tribe. I did a reburial when we were on spring break.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    So these are things that are very, very close to me and personal. In the application of tribal ecological knowledge in habitat restoration. There is a consultation time frame that starts to move forward because it is a streamlining component, one once approved from the local agency. They have 14 days.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    The developer has 14 days to notify tribes and formally notify them of the project. The tribes then have 60 days to respond. And I believe that 60 days up front gives us all a better chance to negotiate things moving forward.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    An initiation within 30 days of consultation is requested and then conclusion of those treatments within 45 to 60 days where the tribe has a 15 day extension solely on their part. These areas, we believe that if there is ongoing discussion can move forward and be able to have the voices moving forward.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    These areas are things that we worked on. Well, some might say it didn't go far enough. We do have support from those throughout tribal communities. Tribal support that's there that include letters of support from the Yurok Tribe, the largest tribe in the State of California.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Table Mountain Rancheria, Tule River Indian Tribe of California, the Yehaviethum of the Sam Manuel Nation, San Yanez Band of Chumash Indians, Takun Taruk Band of Ohlone, Costa Noan Indians of Big Sur, the Morongo Band of Mission Indians, Redding Rancheria. So it shows that there is ongoing support for the things that we came together on.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    Again, there was no mention of protection of resources four weeks ago, but today we reached a compromise. Does it do everything that we want in compromise and negotiation, no one ever gets 100%.

  • James Ramos

    Legislator

    But I believe it is a step in the right direction to preserve California's first people and to make sure that monitors are paid for by the developers to ensure that inadvertent discovery of human remains, there's a process for reburial. Thank you.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. And I just want to thank you again for your very able leadership of our budget Subcommitee to guide us on critical public safety issues. And then, of course, to thank you for the incredible work you have done to uplift the voices of our tribal communities and our first people.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And really, I think I speak for all of my colleagues to say it's an honor to serve with you in the way that you have brought the voice of the tribal communities into our policy process. So thank you. With that, now I want to turn to another one of our talented budget Subcommitee Chairs, Assemblymember Quirk-Silva.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I first want to start with thanking all the Budget Committee team and staff. As you would say, they have worked tirelessly from all committees. I'm blessed to have several that I can call or text at any time and say, go to bed.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    But the point is that they work hour after hour trying to take in what comes through our budget committees. I have the opportunity to chair budget sub 5, which is state Administration. And we are, as was noted by my colleague, we don't get everything we want in a budget, and we fight for much.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    And with that, we are certainly happy to have moved the needle on housing and homeless dollars this year, where we started out with a.00 dollars put into housing.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    And we highly disagreed with that initial number and are pleased to see over a billion and a half dollars put back into housing, including funding for the low income housing tax credit, funding for the multifamily program, and H HAPP Dollars included in the 2026 budget. We know that there's still a lot of work to do.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    Every poll out there shows Californians saying housing is just too darn high, and this is taking a majority of their own budgets. And so we must build, we must build faster.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    There's not always agreement on every piece of language, but certainly we know that across the spectrum, when we talk about affordability, Californians are saying, we want to stay here, we want to work here, but we need housing and we need it faster. So we are pleased with the movement on streamlining.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    We know there's not always agreement there, but we certainly want to see housing built at a quicker pace. With that, it was Also mentioned, we were able to finally make some relief for retired veterans to get some type of response for the retirement.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    We know that they serve, we have big bases here with Pendleton and we want them to stay in California. So we were able to make progress there. Another major area that we've made some progress, we want to see more progress is on cannabis.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    Early on in our Budget Committee we had informational hearings that talked about the State of cannabis and some of you may not follow it, but certainly we there was predictions that we would have many billions of dollars coming in the state. That in fact has not happened.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    And we know that from pandemic levels where there was much higher use as you, it has dropped off significantly. But the progress that we have made is enforcement and we want to see this enforcement so that the legal cannabis owners can have some success.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    We still have work to do on that, but we certainly are pleased with that outcome.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    One of the things that you may not know as budget sub chairs is not only do we work in our own, but we also work with the other sub chairs, not only having regular meetings but also going to them and talking about our priorities. And so I'm pleased to see the work under public safety.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    We thank the budget chair for listening to the women, the Women's Caucus who said that women incarceration are an area that we want to be very intentional about.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    And we are pleased that he did hosted an informational hearing and now there are dollars to address some of the pending issues in our two California women's prison, particularly around sexual assault. As we know that is absolutely not acceptable.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    In addition, I personally as an educator for almost 30 years, I'm very happy to see some progress on the COLA for child care. We know that we have work to do on the child care slots, but certainly the COLA is something that our child care providers have been asking for.

  • Sharon Quirk-Silva

    Legislator

    And this is important as we know that in order to sustain California as the fourth largest economy, we need to have good, safe child care. But with that, again, I'm pleased to have this opportunity to enroll to work under some very invested sub chairs and of course under the leadership of our budget chair. Thank you so much.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Chair Quicksilvan. Let me also compliment you for so ably handling some very tough issues this year. I think it's been clear to anyone who's been watching our budget process over the last years that housing and homelessness and making progress on those issues are a top priority for the Assembly.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    You have really been our leader and our champion in that respect. And as I have told you privately, your fingerprints are all over this budget and really the work to move us in a better direction on housing and particularly the funding for some really critical affordable housing programs to make sure that we make progress on that.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    So thank you for your good work there and also for your collaboration with the other sub chairs. With that next on my list I. Have Mr. Lee.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Thank you Mr. Chair. I have quick comments and then I have two questions on two different topic areas. So be prepared.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    DOF so I just want to thank of course our budget team so much for your constant round the clock work as well as Department of Finance and supporting getting this three party agreement as well to our budget sub Chairs and our Budget Chair for the able leadership.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    I am very pleased to see that the Wright grants and the hire program and the funding for incarcerated firefighters made it into the three party agreement which was a big priority for the Legislative Progressive Caucus. In making sure that we are supporting folks leaving the carceral system and reintegrating in society to be productive Members of society.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    It was really important that those funding, while relatively small in the budget was able to support folks that productive lives leaving our carceral system. So I'm really pleased to see overall movement we have in the budget. I do have two questions.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    My first one is about SB AB 130 on the housing bond housing measure which I broadly overall have been very supportive of all the policy measures put in there. It is the first time I've ever seen the entire budget Bill contingent on being enacted on two policy bills about housing.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    But that shows how serious it is we are about getting more housing built and how dire the housing crisis is.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    However, I did notice while again I'm reiterating that I'm very broadly supportive of most of the things in there and I author on several of these bills I noticed that there are new construction minimum wage standards put in there that I have not seen beforehand.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    And I noticed that my counties are the highest minimum wage, which is good in that regard. But I wanted to understand the rationale for creating a under the guise of the CEQA streamlining measure. What this minimum wage rationale is, how much does it deviate from what the wages are?

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    I just don't understand where the 60% breaking by counties comes from and what the logic and rationale that is. So if I can ask the OF to explain that rationale for us so I can better understand.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    Yes, thank you Assemblymember Megan Tokonaga Block Department of Finance the wage rates that you're referring to are related to a new CEQA streamlining option. So these are for market rate developments that are not currently paying prevailing wages. Otherwise, it creates an option for developers to use and go through CEQA streamlining.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    And so these projects would otherwise be paying set market rates and the rates that you refer to are higher than the market would pay otherwise. If a project is already required to pay prevailing wages, this new proposal does not exempt them from those existing wage requirements.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Sorry, can you repeat that last part, what you just said?

  • Megan Block

    Person

    If a project is already required to pay prevailing wages, the proposal before you does not exempt them from those existing requirements.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Okay, but can you also explain, I just don't understand the 60% rational. So if these are different types of projects, where does the number come from for the counties? And why is it like 60% of the workforce? It's just this is all very new policy to me.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    Sure. So the intent was to make sure that the wages that are set are higher than market rates. And so there's two thresholds as part of the Bill. First is a 60%.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    And then so the requirement for the highest wage counties is that 60% of the construction workers will be paid a rate of no less than $40 per hour and that 100% of the workers would be paid a rate of $27 per hour. And then there's a tiering system for other counties that are not the highest level.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    And then there's three tiers overall.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Right. And I understand that is the $40 rate for my counties that I live in and I represent as well. I would just appreciate offline to just getting more information about this logic behind this policy. ASHENOL and so better understand that. So that would be really appreciated.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    But it is surprising to me to see in the bill language because it wasn't present in other housing bills that I had previously voted for. The second thing I want to ask about moving on to a different topic altogether is the film tax credit.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    So now that we are, as I understand it, for the film tax rate 4.0, are we doubling it from what we had in the previous proposal from 3:30 every year to 770? Or is that the agreement from before that we were going to go to 770?

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    Jacob Kern, Department of Finance so in the 2023 Budget act, the Program 4.0 was established to run from 25-26 to 2930 at $330 million a year. This proposal in the budget is just to increase that 330 million to 750 million for those five years. That program 4.0 is in effect.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. And over the time of the. So we're not changing the time in which 4.0's duration. So it's still technically expired in the 2030, correct? That's right, yeah. So over that time period now with a new number, how much would that cost California?

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    So within the budget window it, it's scored at less than 20 million. There is, there are obviously 20 million or 20 billion. 20 million because the fiscal impact is delayed.

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    You've got rounds of awards given out and then those awards take some amount of time for the production to happen, for the award to get certified and then there's often a, a delay after that as well in terms of when the production company can actually claim the award.

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    But the total cost over the course of the program would be about 2 billion in additional cost from this increase.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    From 330 to 752 billion over duration till the end of this.

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    Well, basically, yeah, technically there are some small costs out into the 2000-40s, but the majority of the costs are within the next 10 years. The years of highest cost are 282929303031 and then 3132 and it's about 250 million in those years.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. I don't know if our through the chair for our budget staff wanted to comment. I don't know if. No, no comment. Okay.

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    I would just direct you to page 63 of the analysis that shows the out year costs on it on 63. It shows how it grows over time. What he was explaining the bigger costs are in 2030.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    Okay. Correct. Thank you. Well, I am glad to see that of course we are prioritizing our cultural capital and factory of Hollywood to make sure we prioritize that in California.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    I just want to point out that while we are growing this tax credit we still have suspended and I've had some conversations my colleague that we still have the suspension of the R and D tax credit which is a broad swath of industry we also lead in.

  • Alex Lee

    Legislator

    So I think it's something we should think about as we make lots of different choices that we should continue to explore all our options holistically. So I appreciate the answers and all those things and thank you Mr. Chair.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Assemblymember. We will now go. Okay then we are going to go to Assemblymember Petrie-Norris.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    Thank you Mr. Chair. I also have some questions regarding ABSB 130, the housing Trailer Bill, some follow ups related to Mr. Lee's questions. Okay.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    So I think that you said in response to Assemblymember Lee's questions that the goal of these new wage standards was to address sort of a gap in the market where currently neither prevailing wage requirements or skilled and trained requirements would apply. I believe is what you said.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    Yes. Megan tokonoga, Block, Department of Finance Typically, projects that are market rate are not subject to prevailing wage requirements, and this is creating a path for a CEQA exemption for projects otherwise not.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    Abel, I understand that's the intent, and I think that's also, I think that's our intent, but the language as drafted, it's not at all clear to me that that's what it does because we now have a totally new wage scale that can be applied to projects which right now, in order to receive a CEQA exemption, would need to pay prevailing wage or skilled and trained meet skilled and trained requirements.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    Typically, prevailing wage rates apply to projects that are receiving public subsidy. And if a project's set to pay those prevailing wages, otherwise they have to pay those and still receive the streamlining.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    Right. But this Legislature has passed bills that require private developers to meet prevailing wage requirements in order to receive a CEQA exemption. So. And can you just walk us through what these new minimum wage requirements would be?

  • Megan Block

    Person

    Certainly. So the bill before you sets dollar wage floors in different tiers by county. And so for the counties of Alameda, Contra Costa, San Mateo, Santa Clara and San Francisco, the following wage rates apply. 60% of the construction workers shall be paid $40 per hour and 100% shall be paid $27 per hour.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    The next tier of counties is for Los Angeles, Marin, Monterey, Napa, Orange, Riverside, Sacramento, San Bernardino, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, Solano, Sonoma and Ventura. And for 60% of those counties, those workers, the rate of $36 applies. And for 100% of those workers, the rate of $24 per hour applies.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    And then for all other counties, for 60% of workers, the rate is $28 per hour and for 100% of workers, $20 per hour.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    Okay, and how would that 6040% possibly be determined or enforced?

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    Excuse me. Genevieve Morales, Assembly Budget Committee I'd like to point to you to two sections. First, that is in AB130, Section 57, there is a notwithstanding clause in there that protects the current prevailing wage rates.

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    And second, to answer your question, on that second piece of that question is there is a calculation that is done to determine the prevailing rage weight rate. Sorry, prevailing rage weight at the local level, there's that calculation that's done. What this bill does is it takes out the.

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    The housing component of it and then allows them to calculate the rate without that housing piece on it and thereby, like, sets the floors based on the numbers that are in there. So everything that you see in the language, it sets floors and the calculation is done without the housing element, the housing component in it.

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    That makes this calculation a little bit different. That would change. It changes it based on where you are at the local level. So that's. That's the difference. But there is a notwithstanding clause that wouldn't affect other prevailing rates, and that is in Section 57.

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    So that's how we ensure that we don't mess up calculations from laws that we've seen in the past. So I would direct you back to that. To that okay. Language.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    And then it also provides, if I'm reading it correctly, some sort of deduction for health care contributions. Correct. Which. Have we ever done that before? That. That seemed unusual to me.

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    Let me get you an answer on that one, and I will follow up on that.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    On that piece of it. Okay. And then I think it also does something. It does change requirements for projects over 85ft. Correct.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I don't have that at my fingertips. I can follow up and get back to you. Apologies.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    Okay. And I think just, you know, to be clear in terms of my line of questioning, I think that I, and I imagine others on the Committee, just want to make sure that we understand the implications of any changes that we are making to labor standards, to wage standards.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    If the goal is to kind of provide, you know, actually sort of a backstop for a section of housing for which there is none, I'm very supportive. If we're unraveling, you know, long standing labor protections and standards, I think that that's concerning.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I think the goal is what you stated currently, and I think that the language that's included In Labor Section 61770.1, I think it's Section 54, is there to protect those long-standing labor standards that are there. So, I would direct you there. If you have additional questions, we're happy to help you.

  • Cottie Petrie-Norris

    Legislator

    All right, thank you so much.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Okay, I think we're going to go now to Mr. Alvarez. Mr. Alvarez.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Thank you very much and thank you all for the work that you do. Really, really appreciate you. I think I'll make some very brief remarks about the education budget as presented today. We talked a lot about the priorities in the last hearing when we discussed budget, so I won't go into details.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    I think one of the things, as I've talked to several superintendents of education from throughout different parts of the state, actually on their concerns with the funding for education, I think this budget certainly is reflective of those changes.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    But I think it's important for me to say here today, as I mentioned to each of them individually, while this is most definitely a very strong budget for education, the years ahead are going to be challenging.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    And there are funds in this budget that should be spent wisely, thoughtfully, and not with the anticipation that this is long-term sustainable because years ahead are difficult. And so, I just want to make sure that that's acknowledged because that's important.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    I have a couple of questions about a few other things, though, that I'd like to ask, and I'm trying to identify which Bill it is, but I haven't been able to.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Our summary mentions that there is funding for Child Youth Behavioral Initiative, which was funded quite substantially a few years ago, and I'm curious as to what this funding is particularly about. And I'm more concerned about the status of what I keep hearing from our schools, that this funding is actually not funding from a few years ago has not been, has not reached schools.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Which means, I think all of us have heard that mental health for our children is becoming a bigger and bigger challenge in our schools. And it sounds like this funding has not been deployed yet.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    So, I'd like to know what this funding in this year's budget and what's the status of the prior year's allocations?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Can I please clarify, Chair Alvarez?

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Yes, please.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Are you referring to the 20 million for the CYBHI and the property?

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    No, I'm looking at the summary page 2, bar agenda item number 11, under the health, so that'd probably be the right Senate Bill. The health summary number 11 provides $127 million in '25-'26 for behavioral health virtual services platform. I don't know what that is, platform, and then it says under the Children Youth Behavioral Health Initiative.

  • Laura Ayala

    Person

    Laura Ayala, Department of Finance. Yes, the budget maintains funding for the—it's called a virtual platform—and it was part of the Children and Youth Behavioral Health Initiative that was implemented a few years back and that includes a few different contracts, but primarily, there's two contracts that provide virtual behavioral health services and coaching to—for—children.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    I'm familiar with those, so I think I know what you're talking about. What is the status of the actual rest of the funding, the non virtual, the funding that was supposed to be deployed so that students had access to mental health services at schools?

  • Laura Ayala

    Person

    The—I think you're referring to the school, the vendor for the school fee schedule, and that is something that the Department of Healthcare Services is continuing to work with schools and the vendor on, in order to reimburse for those claims.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    I'm also referring to the Children Youth Behavioral Health Initiative generally, which I understand has not been deployed to schools. Is that correct?

  • Laura Ayala

    Person

    There are many different pieces of the Children Youth Behavioral Health Initiative. So, I think you're referring to specifically the funding to reimburse the services for schools and I would say that overall, I think that a small portion has gone out, but the Department of Healthcare Services continue to work with schools.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    And that was budgeted which year?

  • Laura Ayala

    Person

    I believe it was in 2022, around there.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Okay. I want to raise a serious concern about that, at this moment going forward. It's, it's been three years of that allocation, and I just keep hearing from all school districts, you know, the onetime money's gone away, we need to provide health mental health services to our students, and we have no funding to do so.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    That's why they push so hard to all the funding that we have in education, this year's budget, in order to allow that the 20 million allocation which the Legislature put in, as to support that.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    I think this is something we need to just pay closer attention to and make sure it gets deployed and that schools are receiving these services.

  • Laura Ayala

    Person

    Yes, we acknowledge that and just wanted to flag that we are working with legislative staff on additional trailer bill language to increase accountability for the vendor to get those, those—that—funding out.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for giving us that information. On Senate Bill 124, I assume this is where I would find—and I could be wrong—there was previously exemptions to SRIA, Senate Bill from 2011. I believe that's no longer in in the budget from what I'm reading.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    And can I just get that confirmation from staff?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I believe you're referring to the public safety trailer bill.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    It probably would have been the resources, I assume.

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    Shy Forbes, Assembly Budget Committee. There are no exemptions to SRIA in this budget package. Okay.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Thank you for the clarity and I want to thank members of the Problem Solvers Caucus. We've been working on trying to figure out how to create more accountability and I think that's an important process. So, thank you for confirming that.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    My next question is on the Clean Cars for All, so I may have to make you come right back up. I'm sorry. I should have said that. Item number eight in the summary expands the requirements from Clean Cars for All and there's a '21 to '22 mention.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Can you tell me, is this because there's resources from '21-'22 that have not been deployed yet? People are not utilizing this program? Is that the reason why?

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    Shy Forbes, again, Assembly Budget Committee. That is correct, Assemblymember. There is money that was appropriated in 2021 and 2022 that CARB is still rolling out. CARB has some money already committed.

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    It is not fully committed yet and so there are stakeholders and Assembly Members who wanted that to be available to be shifted to the district-based Clean Cars for All Programs. So, this language would enable that to happen if CARB chooses to do that through their public process later in the year.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    How much funding are we talking about financing in this program?

  • Erin Carson

    Person

    Erin Carson, Department of Finance. I have to get back to you with exact numbers on what funding is still remaining from prior years.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Do you happen to know that?

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    I'll need to get back to you with certainty, but I believe it's around $260 million and that funding has already technically been encumbered and has been given to the third-party implementer to implement. But it's individual car purchasers and given that they're low income and there are lots of requirements, this program, it does take a long time for them to choose the person, get the car, do the grant agreements, etc.

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    And that's already ongoing at CARB, which is why the language that we adopted is the way that we adopted it.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Thank you. Appreciate you both. Just comment for us. I think any program that's, you know, reaching five year milestone and we still have hundreds of millions of dollars I think there's something to be, be revisited there. My last question is on the California film and tax—Film and Television Tax Credit Expansion.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    I'd be interested in understanding whether this expansion is going to include an increase to the out of market producers and also, to the independent producers. Is that part of this budget today?

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    Jacob Kern, Department of Finance. So, this budget proposal only increases the increase from 330 million to 750 million in yearly allocations. It doesn't include any other programmatic changes. I assume by out of market you mean outside of the LA region?

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Correct.

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    Yeah. That is not in here.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    So, if those changes do not occur, this program will continue to offer the tax credits as is?

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    That's correct.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Is there an intent to make changes to this program that are coming forward to the Legislature?

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    So, the Administration, you know, when drafting this budget proposal, kept in mind that in the 2023 Budget Act, the Program 4.0 was established and some changes were made to the program at that time, including adding a partial refundability option to the tax credits, introducing some new diversity requirements.

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    And given that those changes haven't gone into effect yet, we thought the best approach was to wait until the program could begin, in order to see what the effect of those would be on the program and if changes were still needed.

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    That being said, you know, we are aware of a few policy bills that make some of those changes and we're, we're watching those and we're, you know, the Administration's interested in, but there's part of the negotiation.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    There's no specific commitments to addressing those changes that the Legislature is seeking?

  • Jacob Kern

    Person

    Not in the budget now.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • David Alvarez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Chair.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you very much. And I, of course, just want to thank you for your very able leadership of the Subcommittee and also for your sincere and obvious commitment to oversight and accountability and making sure that we are doing the best that we can with scarce resources. So, thank you very much, Member.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    I want to go now to Assemblymember Solache. I know he has another Committee he needs to be in.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. I do have to go to the Senate Labor Committee and present a Bill that I have, but, but I didn't want to leave without making a quick comment. First and foremost, I want to amplify the work that the Budget Committee and Mr. Chair has done with the healthcare, with education, obviously priorities for California values.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    And I want to make sure that, you know, all Californians feel supported by our state. I did have a concern regarding, you know, the housing trailer bill. I've expressed some concern. The, you know, the Building Trades have shared some concerns with me.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I know Mr. Lee and other folks have asked questions, but definitely, if we're going to have a conversation later today about this, because I know we have a budget to approve on Friday, I want to be part of those conversations.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    It's confusing to me, the formula and to all respect, to all the amazing staff that we have in the state working on this, it's confusing to me, the percent of workers earning different wages. It's just—counties. It doesn't make sense to me. It sounds like a logistical nightmare, to be honest with you.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    And more importantly, you know, we're creating, you know, a slippery slope in the wage conversation. So, again, be respectful of the process. I want to make sure I learn more, understand it more. But as we have to approve this on Friday, I want to make sure that, you know, some of my more questions are detailed, are answered.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I know that Mr. Lee and others already asked questions, but I am concerned that we're creating possible, a nightmare for our Building Trades and our employees. And, you know, this is over 100, almost 100 years of prevailing wage that we've always respected.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I know most of us, when we run for office, we talk about prevailing wage and the importance of that. And so, I've been in local government for 21 years and we've always respected our quality of work that we bring to our projects, our construction building projects in our communities.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    And so, I want to make sure that that process is respected. And again, I just want to make sure that I understand it more. So, I look forward to additional conversations today and thank again, the process of this Committee.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    I know that the state has a lot more than this conversation and that's why I want to thank the process, but I definitely want to add my concerns of this part. And you know, we do such a great work in Committee, in space, and adding it to the budget trailers.

  • José Solache

    Legislator

    It's a new process for me and it's a little confusing. So, just want to understand that. And again, hopefully, we could iron this out and not affect our employees. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Now we are going to go to Mr. Ward.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Great. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and to our staff for endless hours of their hard work on this. There's a lot here to sift through and certainly, we'll continue to do so ahead of our votes this coming week. First, I just wanted to provide some general thanks and comments.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    As the Chair of our LGBT Caucus, in both our principal budget bill as well as some elements here in the budget trailer bills, I want to be thankful for, I think, the attention and the needs that we have specifically to the challenges that our community is facing, areas of healthcare and public safety.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    I see some recognition of our very modest request to be able to have California be able to support the very direct and specific needs that members of our community are facing. And I appreciate our Budget Committee, especially with our chair and our budget staff, for hearing those requests.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    I, as also Chair of the Assembly's Arts, Entertainment, Sports, and Tourism Committee, want to commend and thank several elements here for the assistance for upcoming major sports events and the games and the planning and the safety that need to go into those for the respective home communities across California and for the work on the Film Tax Credit as well, that has been iterative and ongoing.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    But I think we'll come to a really healthy close here as we as we approve this Bill coming up forward in the coming days, as well. I want to commend, as well, the leadership of Assemblyman Ramos for his work on military retirement exclusion and that we're able to make some significant progress here.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    It's not everything that I think we'd hope to get through I think his effort and the Bill and the work that we've been working on for several years, but it is a meaningful step to help to get California in the direction that is better in alignment with what most states are able to do for veterans and those that have served our country and the deservedness that they need for being able to have, I think, parity in that exclusion and importantly, to be able to keep them here in California so we don't lose them to other communities across the country.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    I've got one—two—specific questions, and then I want to come back and close in on the housing conversation as well. Under SB 128 and the transportation trailer bill, I'm curious about the delay of AB 3 from 2021 that would delay the implementation of the ability to prosecute sideshow activities.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    That was something that I remember voting on as well, and I'm just curious why we are extending that now to 2029?

  • Eamon Albin

    Person

    Yeah. Eamonn Albin, Department of Finance. So, AB 3, as proposed, would require DMV to build a new IT system outside of its core legacy system and resulting in additional costs for the MVA that couldn't be supported at the moment.

  • Eamon Albin

    Person

    So, that's why we're proposing the delay right now, to give them time to build their core or build the replacement of the core legacy system, which is through DXP, and then, add on this functionality.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Wait a minute. How does that relate, though, to enforcement of violations related to sideshows?

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    Shy Forbes, Assembly Budget Committee. So, they need to complete the data system upgrade, which is on driver's licenses, before they can implement the legislation. There were three pieces of legislation in that trailer bill that were delayed because of that data system delay.

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    So, it's not a policy decision, it's just that we haven't completed the tech project that's needed before we can fully implement that bill. Since it deals with the driver's licenses, it's suspending the person's driver's license if they are involved in sideshow activity.

  • Shy Forbes

    Person

    And additionally, there were four other sideshow bills that passed since then that are fully implemented, that are not implicated in that data system, that are fully on track.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Good to hear. Okay, thank you for the clarification. That's an important context. Back to SB 120, on early care and education. It's something I want to dig into a little bit more as well. There's a significant amount here to workers and in an industry that is severely impacted.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    And I wonder if you could just elaborate a little bit more when we're talking about, you know, on one hand, you know, not suspending a cost of living allowance, but on another hand, providing a cost of living allowance for certain childcare and preschool programs.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Can you maybe just broadly summarize the impact that we have to workers here through this trailer bill?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    ...Department of Finance. So, the crux of the issue is that there is an existing requirement under sort of state law for implementing the COLA in a very particular way. In past years, there's been concern expressed by the Legislature in the way current law distributes the COLA funding.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    And so, what this does, it suspends the current law COLA and allocates sort of a similar amount of money for a COLA in a new way that results in more rate increases across providers.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Okay. So, when I go back and I talk to my childcare workers in the district, we could affirmatively say that we are going to be able to see modest support for them in the coming year because of this?

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    I just don't want to see one element of this trailer bill counts as something else out that is going to set them back further.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    So, across the Department of Social Services and CDE program, there's about 88 million for cost of living adjustments in the budget year.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Okay, great to hear. And then, on one of the bigger topics of conversation that's going to be coming up, I want to focus on SB 130, but first, I wanted to jump ahead to SB 131, which we haven't discussed much here. I know it's not in print and I'm wondering what content we can expect to see given that, especially we are also considering double jointing language on Friday that would invalidate the entire budget if both of these are not approved.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    But this may not be in print until Friday. And while I'm, you know, highly supportive of the need for housing support and reforms, it is a little bit tenuous, I think in our responsibility. We really need to get some clarity on what's coming forward for us.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    Megan Tokonaga Block, Department of Finance. So, we can expect AB—SB 131—to include two general components. One is a future Homeless Housing Assistance Program allocation, with some accountability measures outlined. And the second is further CEQA streamlining, in the vein of SB 607, as the Governor identified as a key priority, back when the May Revision was released.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Okay, so that's the SB 607 component. I'm aware of the HAPP conversation because that also is reflected in SB 102, is that correct? It was one of these, one of these trailers.

  • Megan Block

    Person

    If I can clarify, those are the two housing elements that we're expecting as part of that future legislation.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Got it. For, for SB 131? Got it. So, on SB 130, you know, there's a lot of information now that is coming before us as well that we need to reconcile and decide whether or not the facts are right.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    I appreciate and I think I align my comments very strongly with Assemblymember Lee and others, that, one, this seems very reflective of AB 609, which the Assembly has already passed overwhelmingly.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    And is there anything else in addition to the policy and the substance that is here in SB 130 that was not considered by AB 609, with respect to the CEQA exemptions?

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    Genevieve Morales, Assembly Budget Committee. There are the two components that are different from 609 that ran through the Policy Committee and was voted off the floor and what you see in 130 and the two elements we talked about is the prevailing wages and also the tribal consultation that's included in there. So, those are the two differences that were negotiated after the Bill went off of the floor, that are included in SB 130.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    The policy consideration, the exemption, is consistent with 609?

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    Yes.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    And that you've already answered the question as well too that, with a notwithstanding clause in this language here too, that we could affirmatively say that this is not going to exempt existing criteria for prevailing wage and other existing programs as that are out there, but rather, for additional projects here that would be subject to this new CEQA exemption, that we are lifting the floor for prevailing wages that don't exist today.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    We're not, we're not going to be dialing back any other existing prevailing wage requirements in certain counties that are currently at a more appropriate and higher level.

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    Yeah, we're, we—the intent of that is to set floors for market rate development that don't exist currently and that also to unionize where there have been unions before, to make sure that when we move forward, all of these good components that we have are in—that apply to prevailing wages are started in that market rate space.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    And what is the response to questions about enforcement of this, of these new provisions, that been alleged that there's no—or there's a broad inability for us to be able to enforce and track compliance with these with this level of prevailing wage requirements?

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    I think the goal is to get to that enforcement in this space. And I would have to get back to you on the specific requirements that are there, if they exist in this trailer bill, on the enforcement piece of it, because I don't know it off the top of my head.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    Okay. I think these are all important dots to connect as well to make sure that we're all operating off of similar facts. But I, you know, remain very interested in receiving a lot of this information to make sure that we're getting this right.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    We know sometimes things can go awry in a budget trailer bill and this is important. It is important to get right, and it would have major impact as well on our ability to produce more housing opportunities here in California.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    But I think that we're going to be all hands on deck right now trying to make sure that we dot all of our I's, cross all of our T's, and that we're faithful, I think, to the principles that I think all of us are trying to be able to exercise here through these decisions.

  • Chris Ward

    Legislator

    I want to thank you for a lot of this hard work. I look forward to working with you in the coming days.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. I think we're gonna go Assemblymember Bennett.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    Thank you very much, Chair Gabriel. I'll be very brief. We've already reached a tipping point when it comes to wildfires as a result of climate change. But there will come a moment when, in California, we will reach a tipping point where we will have the younger generation saying to us, did you do enough? Did we do our part?

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    Did we do our share to try to address climate change?

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    And I think that the number one activity that we're doing in California to try to do that is with the Cap and Trade Fund and the revenues that are generated from that, the GGRF funds, as we refer to them, to the extent that those—that the Cap and Trade program—and the GGRF funds collected from that are the major effort that California is making to do our share to address climate change and to address carbon emissions, to the extent that that is being undermined by moving those funds to fund the normal operations and activities of CAL FIRE, I think it reduces the ability for us to say we have done the appropriate things and taken the appropriate steps.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    So, I look forward, and I want to just try to highlight the fact that we do have $1.25 billion going into coming from the GGRF Fund, to fund the normal operations of CAL FIRE, and we should as quickly possible reverse that and move back to normal operations where we fund CAL FIRE, which is an essential California service, through the General Fund, and we do the appropriate activities, so that we can look our grandchildren in the face and say, while we had the ability to do something, we did do what we should have been doing to try to protect us from the ravages of climate change.

  • Steve Bennett

    Legislator

    If California doesn't do our share, we can't exercise world leadership to try to have other people do their share. Thank you very much.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. It does look like there's less funding in the budget now dedicated to implementing the voters will as it relates to Proposition 36. And I just wondered in General terms, how much does this budget package include and for what programs are being addressed?

  • Jennifer Kim

    Person

    Hi, Assemblymember Jennifer Kim with the Assembly Budget Committee. There's $50 million for behavioral health, for grants to the counties. There's an additional $20 million for courts to address judicial workload. And there's $15 million for pretrial services that primarily will support probation.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    Okay, so in total, what does that amount to? About $85 million as opposed to the proposed 400 million that we were told it would take to Fund this. This Proposition. I don't expect you to make a comment about that. That's my job. But I will tell you that that is extremely disappointing.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    And finally, my last point is, what, if anything, does this negotiated budget package do to reduce gas prices and avoid the $8 gallon gas price that we believe is coming? Is there anything. Thank you.

  • Amin Albin

    Person

    Amin Albin, Department of Finance, apologies. Would you repeat your question?

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    Yeah, certainly. What, if anything, does this negotiated budget package due to reduce gas prices and avoid the $8 gallon price that's looming?

  • Amin Albin

    Person

    I. There 's nothing in the budget right now that addresses that.

  • Tom Lackey

    Legislator

    Oh. Thank you. That's all I got.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Okay. Assemblymember Rogers,

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    Thank you as much. Mr. Chair, I mostly have comments and I want to align them with some of the things that have already been said and maybe just be very direct about it. I didn't come to Sacramento to cut people's wages.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    I didn't sit through months of Budget Committee hearings talking about how to preserve our social safety net to then at the 11th hour, potentially kick more people onto it.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    And when we talk about affordable housing and the housing crisis in the state, we can't solve that problem if the people building the houses are the ones who qualify for them. I know that there's continued conversation that needs to happen. I'm hearing that perhaps there's some misinformation about it.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    That's what happens when you drop a Bill like this at the last minute and don't involve the people who are impacted.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    So if what I'm hearing is that this is going to be really good for California's workers, but the Labor Fed and the building trades weren't invited to the table to talk about it and instead have concerns and say that it's going to impact their workers, then I don't believe you. So spend some time have those conversations.

  • Chris Rogers

    Legislator

    Don't try to put Members in a position where we have to decide between people who can't afford housing and people who can't afford groceries. And let's actually have real conversations about this, not hide it in the budget.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you, Assemblymember Schiavo.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. I first want to say as someone on the budget sub two Health Committee, there's been incredible progress on addressing health. There's a lot of good, good stuff in this budget that we fought very hard for.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    I want to thank the speaker and the budget chair and our budget sub one or sub two chair as well, and all of the staff who work so hard. I know people were sleeping on sofas and making huge, huge sacrifices to get to where we've gotten today and I'm grateful for that.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    The work to change the asset test to make sure that people are not kicked off medical because they have two cars, for example, to take their disabled child to Doctor's appointments is huge progress.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    The Voca funding for Victim of Crimes act to make sure that when people make a call and need help immediately that they are getting that help is is important that we do not ever leave them out.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    Title 10 Family Planning dollars to make sure that people can have the health care they need and women have that care when they need it. Tax relief for people who are suffering in my community of a burning landfill that will be burning for 20 years and is making them sick.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And you know, I share concerns around the Prop 36 funding, disappointed to see that that was reduced. And you know, I know that this is not a perfect budget, but I also want to, you know, in a difficult year. But I also want to share the concerns of my colleague, Assembly Member Rogers just expressed.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And you know, as someone who worked for 20 years in the labor movement and has fought for prevailing wage, this is one of the reasons we don't like to do policy in the budget. And it's incredibly problematic that the trades have not been at the table in this conversation and it does not feel like there are safeguards.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    We've all fought and supported lifting the floor, fighting for minimum wages, all of those things. But the other pieces make it feel very, very tenuous. When, you know, if there's a requirement for health care, do we know what standard of health care that there's a requirement for? How much is the out of pocket going to be?

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    I mean it could be a situation where you're getting $40 an hour, but you're having to pay so much for health care. You're barely making more than a fast food worker.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And the whole point of of us making sure that there are living and prevailing wages for people in construction is that they can actually afford the housing that they're building. And so I share the concerns that have been expressed today.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    I think it's critical that the trades are in this conversation and that we go back to work on this piece because we cannot do something that really undercuts where folks are going to be in terms of prevailing wages and making sure that they can put food on the table.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    In my district already, people are having to live so far away from where they're working, driving 1 and 2 or more hours a day just to get to work and then having to do the same thing again.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    More than half of their day is sometimes spent in the car to drive because they can't afford to live in the communities that they're working in. And this is one of the reasons that we have an affordability crisis.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And I appreciate that there's an effort to kind of be a part of that solution, but it does not feel like, at least in terms of clarity and understanding, that we are there yet.

  • Pilar Schiavo

    Legislator

    And I hope that there are important conversations that include all of the voices and especially those who are going to be impacted by this in figuring out the right balance and making sure that we get it right. So I want to thank you very much.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Assemblymember, any other Members, any other Members of the Committee that wish to. Let's go. Assembly Member Hart and Assemblymember Patel.

  • Gregg Hart

    Legislator

    Yeah, I just want to add my voice to the questions that Members have had about the sections of 130 relating to the trades and the prevailing wage issues. You know, there's a lot of policy that has to be confirmed in the conversations that Members have raised.

  • Gregg Hart

    Legislator

    The questions that Members have raised about, you know, the applicability of this. Is it really going to apply to new projects that haven't previously been subject to prevailing wage, or is it going to have an impact on the protections that we expect?

  • Gregg Hart

    Legislator

    There's also provision in this section of the the budget two that affects builders remedy projects in my district that are really, I think, dramatically wrong. They are not designed to provide housing to folks. They are, they are really abuses of the process.

  • Gregg Hart

    Legislator

    And the only protection that the local governments in my district have is the CEQA process that looks like it is going to be exempt from. And I'm very concerned about that as it pertains specifically to my district for those builders or any projects under five.

  • Gregg Hart

    Legislator

    Under five acres and so I wanted to have some greater clarity about that as we move forward.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Did you want a response?

  • Gregg Hart

    Legislator

    I know it's very fine grained question, but if you have anything to add otherwise we can get.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Megan Tokonaga Block Department of Finance I don't have that detail at my fingertips, but we can follow up with your staff.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    All right, we will circle back on that one. Member Patel

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. As a Member of Budget Sub-3, I'm happy to sit on this Budget Committee as well. And as a new Member, all of this is coming fast and furious as I'm learning how to interpret all of these policies that are put in a budget trailer set of bills.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    I do want to express deep gratitude to staff and to the budget chairs that have been working tirelessly to make sure that our community's values are heard and met as best as possible in a very tight budget year, specifically around progress we've made in the healthcare area, preserving education funding, strengthening it, looking at fire safety as well as so many other things that impact my constituents at home in the 76th Assembly District.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    But I do want to share some concerns with my colleagues that I have heard up here on the dais. One is around the Youth Behavioral Health Initiative. I want to echo the concerns of my budget chair, Assemblymember Alvarez.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    Our school districts and I've spoken with many across San Diego have not received the funding that they thought would be coming their way and it's crucial funding. As the COVID intervention dollars got wound down, those were one time buckets of funding.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    They were really hoping to fill those gaps with the Youth Behavioral Health Initiative funding and we're just not seeing that money coming in. I have asked and will be chairing am chairing a Select Committee on Youth Behavioral health and access and treatment opportunities.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    And this is one of the main questions that we're going to be asking is where is that money and how can we get our children the intervention and the supports and services that they so desperately need.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    Additionally, I want to highlight some of the concerns around the prevailing wage and making sure that our workers are at the table. When we're talking about making changes to the way that our workers receive compensation for contributing to our strong economies and our strong communities. Also want to echo concerns around affordability.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    When we talk about affordability from the dais, when we talk about affordability in our communities, it ties into a huge web of contributions from different workers of different classes. It includes the child care sector.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    It includes the in home health services, in home health care providers and all of these things, when we look at the progress we've made in the budget here, we're seeing some, but it's not enough.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    If we want to make sure that all of our workers can realize all of their potential, we we need to make sure that our budget reflects that and they're receiving all the supports that they need to do it effectively.

  • Darshana Patel

    Legislator

    So I'm hoping to see some movement in that direction if at all possible, but certainly focus around the accountability and oversight as part of our duties here. Want to make sure that we can partner and get the services and supports rolled out from budgets passed in previous years as well. Thank you.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much Assemblymember. I think Assemblymember Fong

  • Mike Fong

    Legislator

    Thank you so much, Chair Gabriel, and thank you so much to Chair and to the leadership and to all the Budget Committee staff for their tremendous work and efforts on this budget.

  • Mike Fong

    Legislator

    Also just want to amplify and highlight the thank you so much, my colleagues, for the work and efforts to push back against the proposed cuts to the University of California and the CSU system and the working efforts to continue to advocate for higher education here in California and also for our community colleges with a block grant program to provide additional resources for our students in these challenging times.

  • Mike Fong

    Legislator

    Also want to echo the concerns of a number of my colleagues regarding the prevailing wage issue and really want to amplify those concerns around that and really have a deeper conversation around the proposed prevailing wage issues and the different standards that would be proposed to be created.

  • Mike Fong

    Legislator

    And really do you have a number of concerns just on the language that has been put forth and so just want to up those comments, but really appreciate the work and efforts of our chair and to leadership and to everyone. Thank you so much.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you. Assemblymer Connolly

  • Damon Connolly

    Legislator

    Thank you. Chair Good morning everyone. Apologies for being at a couple other hearings, but have been kind of keeping track of the robust discussion that has been going on around this and just really wanted to echo some of the concerns that have been raised.

  • Damon Connolly

    Legislator

    In my case, some of those concerns started with the original Bill, AB 609 on the merits. In conversations with the author, with interested stakeholders, my hope was that that was going to continue through the policy process, that we could continue to talk through the issues in kind of a more robust way.

  • Damon Connolly

    Legislator

    But we find ourselves now again looking at the prospect of enacting or deciding on serious policy through a budget trailer process. In this case, with just hours of review and questioning possible, I find that inadequate, to say the least.

  • Damon Connolly

    Legislator

    So I'm going to continue to be thinking, thinking through those concerns Those include, as I think it was Assemblymember Hart mentioned CEQA and kind of the ability of local communities to be heard on relevant issues. I fully support colleagues who have spoken up and it sounds like there have been many on the issue of wages.

  • Damon Connolly

    Legislator

    This proposal, I will say now, not having even had a chance to read it in full, is confusing at best. And it sounds like there are real concerns that it could result in substandard wages or certainly not prevailing wages, which is an important goal that we want to achieve.

  • Damon Connolly

    Legislator

    So I'm going to leave it at that right now. I know we have a lot of work to do over the next couple days, but. But just want to at least be on record as conveying those concerns at this time. Thank you.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Any other Members of the Committee? Oh yes,

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    Thank you so much. For me, I want to echo the sentiments of all of my colleagues in regards to how we're moving forward and particularly looking at Absburg. What I want to say is that if our budget is truly a reflection of our values, then our process and creating the budget must be an all inclusive process.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    I've said that from time to time again that everyone should have a seat at the table as we continue to move forward. And to hear that a number of our workers voices have been deliberately kept out of conversations as it, as it deals with their pay. I find it to be appalling as something that is not acceptable.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    Now we just recently released a report from the Policy and Research Division to talk about accountability. Well, to talk about affordability within itself and the rising cost of living within the State of California.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    That report clearly, clearly highlights 20 counties along with another 14 counties based on the minimum wage itself and the amount that it takes for people to live.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    I want us to go back to look at those, you know that actual report that was given to all of my colleagues and then as we continue to move forward to have conversations about the budget and prevailing wages and minimum wage.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    No one understand that the reports it actually says that our current wages is not enough at all for people to survive here within the State of California.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    So when we have these dialogues, keep people in mind, be sure to humanize the current situation and make sure that we are keeping people at the forefront and stick to exactly what we are talking about.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    Making sure that we can make California affordable and keeping people able to keep food on their table, be able to afford childcare, be able to afford to get prices and accept your.

  • Lashae Sharp-Collins

    Legislator

    I am a proud union Member as well and I want to make sure that all of us, all of our colleagues and everyone else definitely have a seat at the table at all times.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Assemblymember any all right, Mr. Schultz,

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    thank you very much. Mr. Chair. Just wanted to echo the comments of my colleagues. Before I do, I just want to thank you and your staff. I know it's been quite a lift to get to this point. I also want to thank my budget sub-chair, Assemblymember Ramos.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I will just say on that note, in terms of sub 6, I know that while it's a relatively smaller portion of the budget, a substantial factor in balancing or attempting to balance the budget is the cost savings that CDCR is seeking to implement.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    And I think it's fair to say that they did not achieve the cost savings in the last budget that they set out to do.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    So I just want to put CDCR on notice that next year, as we approach that budget, I will be looking to see if they are actually following through on the cost savings that they promise because their ability to do that or their failure to do that is going to drive what next year's budget looks like.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    So it's very important that when we set targets for reducing expense or saving costs that we are making meaningful strides to achieve that. With regards to what so many of my colleagues have said so eloquently, I have a concern about process. I will continue to be looking closely at Bill number 130, SB 130.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I just wanted to note that my concern from process comes from the fact that SB130 includes provisions of my Bill, AB306, and yet I found out that it was included in SB130 when environmental voters called me to say, hey, your bill's in SB130.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    And I think the point I'm trying to make is that clearly there needs to be better communication in the days ahead. We have less than 48 hours before a floor vote, and I strongly encourage the Administration to be working with all stakeholders.

  • Nick Schultz

    Legislator

    I think that what you're hearing from the dais up here is a lot of questions and a lot of concerns, and I think the process could have been improved. But with that, thank you very much for your leadership, Mr. Chair.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. Anybody else? Once? Twice. All right. With that, I will thank all of my colleagues for their thoughtful comments, questions, for all of the hard work.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    I know that it has been quite a journey, and I just again want to appreciate everybody who sat through the many budget Subcommitee hearings, the many hours of public comment, and all the hard work to bring us to this point. So with that, we are going to go now to the public comment portion of our hearing.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    And I know that we have quite a few people who have joined us to share quite a few Members of the public who have joined us to share comments. So we'll ask for folks to keep it brief with your name, your organization and your position, please.

  • Melissa Romero

    Person

    Thank you. Melissa Romero, California Environmental Voters I'm going to talk quickly because there's a lot to say. We are of course concerned about the use of $1.0 billion from GGRF to General Fund and the out year shifts from GGRF General Fund Fund.

  • Melissa Romero

    Person

    I want to point out the connection between the clawing back of federal funding for healthcare and health and human services funding even at the state level, and the degrading of our federal EPA and of our of our funding for environmental and health protections. Those things are connected very much to human health and quality of life.

  • Melissa Romero

    Person

    So really important that we continue to Fund those things. The environmental community has proposed solutions for those significant concerns about SB607 being part of the budget and that AB 131 has not gone into print yet. We were working with the author on amendments. We had a pose unless amended position on that.

  • Melissa Romero

    Person

    And we are just, you know, waiting for that language to go into print. And we'll be getting back to you on our position if that warrants an opposed position, although this is the last part part we can comment. So we'll say that. One last thing.

  • Melissa Romero

    Person

    I want to appreciate Assemblymember Schultz for what he said, and we are concerned about AB306 going into the budget process. We do oppose the inclusion of that in the budget in AB 130. And we were in active discussions about very reasonable changes to that and so want to impose that.

  • Scott Wetch

    Person

    Thank you. Thank you so much. Mr. Chair and Member Scott Wetch, on behalf of the State Association of Electrical Workers, the California State Pipe Trades Council, the Western States Council of Sheet Metal Workers, the California Coalition of Utility Employees and the Elevator Constructors Union.

  • Scott Wetch

    Person

    In my 37 years, I have never seen a minimum wage adopted for the purposes of suppressing wages, not lifting workers up. We have never had a Bill introduced to allow employers to force employees to pay for their own health care without having a say or representation. This is the most outrageous, abusive process that I've ever witnessed.

  • Scott Wetch

    Person

    Make no mistake, this Bill was amended this late and connected to the budget with a poison pill to force every Member of this Legislature to vote for things that their conscience would never allow them to do otherwise.

  • Scott Wetch

    Person

    It's shameful and it will leave a black mark on this Legislature and anybody who votes for it for the rest of your career.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Thank you Bob Drew on behalf of the Painters and Allied trades, we oppose AB130 and we also have particular heartburn over AB102 which you're going to vote for today, which basically impregnates all of you without having seen AB131.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The entire budget is predicated on AB131 which has yet to be revealed to any of you, but you're told to go up on the budget regardless or you'll lose Committee assignments or whatever. So we oppose AB102 and that or that provision of AB102 and we we oppose AB130. We will oppose AB131 once we see it with the rest of the public.

  • Linda Nguy

    Person

    Good morning Linda Nguy with Western Center on Law and Poverty. We appreciate some pieces of the budget, specifically the rejection of cuts to older adults and people with disabilities through reinstatement of the asset limit at a more reasonable amount, rejection of the cuts to IHSS and Long Term Care as well as efforts to reimagine CalWORKS to make more family centered.

  • Linda Nguy

    Person

    However, overall the budget still balances on the backs of low income immigrant families. In particular, the budget cuts makes discriminatory medi Cal cuts to immigrant families, creating a two tier Medi Cal system which will result in people losing health coverage due to enrollment lockouts that permanently exclude these individuals as well as unaffordable premiums.

  • Linda Nguy

    Person

    Making these cuts, while without consideration to meaningful revenue solutions, does not protect vulnerable Californians, many of whom are already targeted by a hostile Federal Government and does not align with California values. Thank you.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. And I just, I know everybody has really thoughtful comments and you've all heard this. I just want to encourage folks to be just a little bit more brief and their comments because you have a lot of folks behind you.

  • Justin Garrett

    Person

    Thank you. Justin Garrett with the California State Association of Counties. CSAC is appreciative of some investments and funding preservations in a difficult budget situation. This includes for Voca Home Safe Bringing Families Home and HDAP Public Health Infrastructure, the state level VMT Mitigation Bank Program, Affordable Housing Program and the Wildfire County Coordinator Program.

  • Justin Garrett

    Person

    CISAC does continue to have significant concerns about the lack of any funding for HAPP in 25-26 which will have detrimental impacts to local homelessness efforts. And then finally, CSAC is grateful for the Legislature's effort to get some funding for Prop 36, some critical funding, but do have concerns remaining about the overall insufficient funding, hampering implementation. Thank you.

  • Vanessa Kahino

    Person

    Thank you very much. Vanessa Kahino on behalf of a couple clients this morning for Calpace, we deeply appreciate the Legislature's modifications to pace cuts and look forward to working with DHCs very soon to to ensure that they have the resources they need to administer and oversee care for frail elderly seniors.

  • Vanessa Kahino

    Person

    On behalf of the California Immigrant Policy Center, we appreciate the inclusion of the $10 million increase for both legal services and Chirp. We continue to ask for the to remove the carve out and the Equal Access Fund given the specious arrests going on with Ayes raids statewide now and then.

  • Vanessa Kahino

    Person

    On behalf of the California Academy of Family Physicians, we're grateful for the preservation of Prop 56. Thank you.

  • Johnny Pineda

    Person

    Hi Chair and Committee Member Johnny Pineda on behalf of the Latino Coalition for Health California, thank you for your hard work balancing this budget and for also defending immigrant communities across the state.

  • Johnny Pineda

    Person

    Unfortunately, however, you know, this budget includes, you know, harmful policies that will negatively impact Latino communities across the state, such as, you know, the freezing and premiums.

  • Johnny Pineda

    Person

    So LCHC remains opposed to, you know, to the freezes and premiums and it looks forward to continue to work with you on, you know, sustainable and equitable solutions to create more revenue in the state to eventually eliminate these freezes and premiums. Thank you.

  • Joshua Gauger

    Person

    Good morning. Josh Gauger, on behalf of the Chief Probation Officers of California. Unfortunately, we are very disappointed in this budget agreement. Last November, 70% of voters sent the message that they wanted a greater emphasis on public safety. The Legislature and governor's response in this budget is to one, provide zero funding for probation to implement Proposition 36.

  • Joshua Gauger

    Person

    The entity and activity that each court or public safety expert testified was key to ensuring accountability in the new mandated treatment process. Two, cut probation by 5 million next year and 20 million ongoing to provide pretrial services that help individuals that cannot afford bail with release pretrial and and ensure their return to court.

  • Joshua Gauger

    Person

    Three, defund secure youth treatment by conditioning state funds on judges ordering the most serious or violent youth cases into community settings prior to discharge of their baseline terms.

  • Joshua Gauger

    Person

    We are disappointed that this budget cuts public safety programs that work and fails to meet new voter mandates, but remain committed to our mission of improving public safety through alternatives to incarceration. Thank you.

  • Martin Radosevich

    Person

    Good morning. Chair Martin Radosevich speaking on behalf of the following organizations in support of AB130. That includes the CEQA exemptions for housing projects for infill housing, SPUR, Abundant Housing LA, Buckeye properties and Sandhill Properties. Thank you.

  • Usha Mutchler

    Person

    Good morning. Usha Mutchler on behalf of the California State Sheriff's Association, we appreciate the challenges associated with creating a balanced budget given the state's fiscal situation, and we are grateful for the reappropriation of 10 million for law enforcement mutual aid. Regrettably, we still have significant concerns with a lack of full and appropriate funding to implement Proposition 36.

  • Usha Mutchler

    Person

    Unfortunately, though, the budget documents point to 100 million in funding. The budget before you includes zero new funding for county probation departments to supervise and connect individuals to treatment. There are no resources for frontline law enforcement to support interventions in the community, and there is no funding to house arrestees in county jails and provide in custody treatment.

  • Usha Mutchler

    Person

    We respectfully urge the continuation of this important conversation toward the end of fully funding Proposition 36. Thank you.

  • Eric Doughty

    Person

    Good morning. Eric Doughty with the California Dental Association we want to appreciate the Legislature standing up to protect Medi Cal Dental and staving off immediate cuts to provider rates.

  • Eric Doughty

    Person

    However, we're disappointed with the loss of benefits for the undocumented adults next year and the shortening of the timeline of the elimination of Prop 56 supplemental rate eliminations to only one year.

  • Eric Doughty

    Person

    The integrity of the Medi Cal Dental program hinges on the confidence of both patients and dentists that can rely on a program to serve the needs of the very vulnerable. And thank you for your work on this.

  • Kimberly Lewis

    Person

    Kim Lewis on behalf of a couple clients for Apiranet, we really appreciate the final inclusion of 31.5 million for foster family agencies and the inclusion of the AAP changes to the trailer Bill that we worked on and look forward to be part of that stakeholder process.

  • Kimberly Lewis

    Person

    On behalf of Children Now, appreciate the Legislature holding fast on the deep cut to the Emergency Child Care Bridge program and not harming it further. And on behalf of the California Coalition for Youth, we applaud the inclusion of the Voca funding and withhold our Congress comments on the HAPP funding until we can see 131. Thank you.

  • Christine Smith

    Person

    Christine Smith with Health Access California. We the budget deal breaks promises made by our state leaders. The freeze on new enrollment will result in people who lose coverage due to inability or inability to pay or other paperwork reasons losing further coverage.

  • Christine Smith

    Person

    So even if they temporarily leave the program due to increased income, they'll be unaccust to get unable to get further access to this crucial program.

  • Christine Smith

    Person

    On top of the attacks and fear faced by our immigrant communities at the hands of the Federal Government, undocumented Californians will now face impossible choices at the hands of our state government being between paying unaffordable premiums for their coverage or risk losing care altogether.

  • Christine Smith

    Person

    Many will go uninsured, forcing them to the ER for basic care or dying younger from preventable illnesses. We also we do appreciate the rejection of the proposed IHSS and long term care services cuts and the funding for premium subsidies for Covered California from the Healthcare Affordability Reserve Fund.

  • Christine Smith

    Person

    But we will continue to call upon legislators to restore these cuts as soon as possible. And we ask that you consider revenue solutions that will uphold our values of care equity and access for all. Thank you.

  • Nico Molina

    Person

    Good morning Chairmembers. Nico Molina on behalf of the NRDC Action Fund. We want to express strong opposition to moving controversial and consequential policy bills such as AB306 and SB607 into the budget. The public deserves transparency and a voice in decisions that will shape the future of our air, water, buildings and communities. Thank you.

  • Mark Fenstermaker

    Person

    Good morning Mr. Chair. Mark Fenstermaker for Peninsula Clean Energy and Earth Justice. We're would echo the comments of the previous speaker as it relates to bringing AB 306 into the budget. We think there are amendments that could play out in the policy arena to move new housing construction forward while allowing for decarbonization our existing buildings. Thank you.

  • Paul Shafer

    Person

    Good morning. Paul Shafer with the California Council for Affordable Housing. We are in support of SB130, particularly the inclusion of language from Senator Reyes SB 686 that allows for the early repayment of HCD loans. Thank you Mr.

  • Scott Governor

    Person

    Chair. Members Scott Governor on behalf of the Morongo Band of Mission Indians in support of the CEQA provisions for tribal resources. We understand the language is imperfect and there is opposition. Nevertheless, we do believe it's an improvement over existing law.

  • Amin Albin

    Person

    Thank you Mr. Chair. Brennan Napicki on behalf of VIA Transportation here in support of CARB's equity focused clean Transit Grants. These are very popular programs that support clean transit options in disadvantaged communities during upcoming cap and trade negotiations. Urge the Legislature to support this funding. Thank you.

  • Dylan Hoffman

    Person

    Thank you Mr. Chair. Members Dylan Hoffman on behalf of a couple of clients expressing our appreciation for this Committee and your leadership. Mr. Chair on a couple of issues for the California Arts advocates appreciate this Committee's rejection of the proposed cuts to the Performing Arts Equitable Payroll Fund which supports a thriving performing arts community and as well on behalf of the Center for Employment Opportunities.

  • Dylan Hoffman

    Person

    This Committee's inclusion of funding for the higher program which provides funding for justice impacted individuals returning from incarceration. I want to provide a very special thank you to our Assembly champion for her tireless advocacy. Assembly Member Sharpe Collins. So thank you very much.

  • Natalie Brown

    Person

    Hi. I'm Natalie Brown. I'm speaking for Planning and Conservation League, Defenders of Wildlife, Sonoma Land Trust and the California Native Plant Society. Californians are facing an onslaught of federal policy specifically targeted at the disenfranchisement of people of color, immigrants, the environment and frontline communities.

  • Natalie Brown

    Person

    Now, as we most urgently need our state level representatives to see Stand up for Democracy, we are incredibly concerned about anticipated budget trailer Bill Language that would fundamentally destroy the protections of the California Environmental Quality act which is moving without a single public hearing on the Bill in print, which means zero opportunity for the public to weigh in beyond housing.

  • Natalie Brown

    Person

    Anticipated but still unknown proposals would have grave consequences for a wide swath of project types that would go without needed review even with established potential harms.

  • Natalie Brown

    Person

    This is devastating for the environment, particularly for community Members who are having their sole opportunity for transparency and to engage in local democratic decision making completely destroyed in a non transparent state level process without opportunity for engagement. It's for these reasons we oppose efforts to roll back CEQA via sweeping policy change in the budget process. Thank you so much.

  • Raquel Mason

    Person

    Thank you Mr. Chair Raquel Mason on behalf of the California Environmental Justice Alliance. Similar comments to my colleague before me. We strongly oppose efforts to roll back CEQA and behind closed door deals and the budget process and appreciate all the comments shared today expressing concern with this process.

  • Raquel Mason

    Person

    Equally if not more concerning is the process around SB AB131 which still isn't in print and we anticipate will include additional major rollbacks to CEQA and will not have and none of the key stakeholders have been involved in those conversations as well.

  • Raquel Mason

    Person

    And this is the last hearing where we would even have a chance to discuss what would be included in there. CEQA is all about public process. This process provides environmental justice communities a voice. This is how we build trust in projects.

  • Raquel Mason

    Person

    This type of backdoor deal is exactly an example of why what the mistrust that can come if we don't have stakeholders at the table. We don't have a public process around big big changes. For these reasons we oppose efforts to roll back CET in the state budget.

  • Asha Sharma

    Person

    Thank you Asha Sharma on behalf of Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability. We vehemently oppose efforts to roll back bedrock environmental law in California. CEQA behind closed doors at the last minute through the state budget process.

  • Asha Sharma

    Person

    Making funding of critical state resources like healthcare and affordable housing dependent on gutting CEQA harms low income communities of color that need that funding the most and that need CEQA to have any seat at the table on the polluting or risky developments that disproportionately fall in their neighborhoods.

  • Asha Sharma

    Person

    A rollback of CEQA will come at great cost of California's right to know about the impacts of development that will have on their health, a cost that we will bear immediately and over the long term with resulting environmental degradation that will be extremely costly if not impossible to undo. Further, CEQA does not hold back development.

  • Asha Sharma

    Person

    The largest battery storage facility in the country and the largest solar farm in state history went through full environmental review in just eight months. However, that review was incredibly important for surrounding communities to ensure the project is built safely. For these reasons, we oppose efforts to roll back CEQA in the state budget. Thank you.

  • Gabriella Fasio

    Person

    Good morning Chairmembers Gabriella Fasio with Sierra Club California. I'm here to strongly oppose efforts to roll back CEQA and freeze building code statewide in the state budget and the inclusion of this language in accompanying budget trailer bills. CEQA is not the reason for the delays in development and building codes are not the reason for rising housing costs.

  • Gabriella Fasio

    Person

    Gutting CEQA and the placing of a moratorium on building codes will make reaching affordability in the long term extremely difficult and strip communities from having their voices and concerns heard in projects that disproportionately land in their neighborhoods.

  • Gabriella Fasio

    Person

    It is extremely disappointing and unacceptable that these major statewide policy decisions are being pushed through the back door of the budget process with no policy hearing, no stakeholder input, and no public debate. Californians deserve transparency.

  • Gabriella Fasio

    Person

    At the very least, this language must be pulled from the budget and returned to the regular policy process where it can be debated in the light of day. Do not, don't let this set a precedent for overriding public input on major climate and housing policy.

  • Gabriella Fasio

    Person

    For these reasons, we strongly oppose a rollback of CEQA and the freeze on statewide building codes in the state budget. Thank you.

  • Garrett Hamilton

    Person

    Good morning. Garrett Hamilton on behalf of the California District Attorneys Association, we want to thank the Legislature for recognizing the need to Fund Proposition 36. We are, however, disappointed that in the final package no funding was provided for supervision, which is a key component to ensuring people complete court mandated treatment.

  • Garrett Hamilton

    Person

    We have deep concerns about the local match requirement given the significant funding cuts that counties face from the Federal Government, and we look forward to further discussing all of this in the fall.

  • John McCue

    Person

    Hi, my name is John McCue. I'm a mechanical engineer. I've been involved in the last 30 years of developing energy codes in America, Canada as well as in California.

  • John McCue

    Person

    I'm disappointed to see that AB130 appears to circumvent the due diligence at the Senate Housing Committee and Senate Local Government Committee should be providing on AB 306 and the state building standards. The text of AB 306 is buried in sections 29 through 41 of AB 130.

  • John McCue

    Person

    My recommendation is to strike those sections from AB 130 and actually have a full accounting of the problems with that standard. There is no emergency in terms of the timing as this affects local government codes adopted after October 1st in the future. Title 24, Part 6, Energy Code that is effective January 1st, 2029.

  • John McCue

    Person

    We were supposed to have a hearing on this next week for the Senate Housing Committee and then I think it was a week later for local governments. The rush to judgment is not in the State of California's best interest. Let the Senate committees advise on the advisability of these sections.

  • John McCue

    Person

    This standard is, and these sections are based on a misunderstanding of the cost and benefit of energy codes. The Proponents fact sheet on AB306 claims that state policies over the past 15 years result in $50,000 to $100,000 of cost.

  • John McCue

    Person

    However, if you look at the CBIA estimates that this was based on energy codes, which is the only thing that this is affecting at a $20,000 cost. And over that same time period the cost of housing increased $500,000. So the idea that something that has a 3% cost impact affects the.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Sir, I'm informed we have a bunch of folks outside behind you, so we appreciate it. I know that there's a lot of people here that want to share their opinion, so just, just want to be fair to everybody in terms of time.

  • John McCue

    Person

    Yeah. What I'd like to do is then I have detailed comments that I'd like to pass on to your staff and, and I'd love to talk with you or your staff individually at your convenience.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Sounds great. Thank you so much.

  • Pete Wohlgezogen

    Person

    Good morning. My name is Pete Wohlgezogen and I'm here to represent 6,800 Members of the UA Local 250 Steamfitters and Refrigeration and the UA as a whole. The middle class workers already face challenging times to keep up with affordability in California. We are going to work every day to support our families.

  • Pete Wohlgezogen

    Person

    If we're lucky enough to be able to send our kids to College. All this while challenging. All this will be challenging when we are already facing opposition in industrial sectors here in California. And now there's this Bill which is looking to reduce our wages.

  • Pete Wohlgezogen

    Person

    The average blue collar worker can't afford to have their jobs in the industrial sectors cut but then also have the wages reduced in the industrial, the residential sectors. Excuse me.

  • Pete Wohlgezogen

    Person

    The proposed wages at $36 an hour for Southern California actually puts you at about $74,000 a year which technically is considered low income for a family of four in LA County based on a single income. This information is pulled from planning.lacounty.gov I ask for your support in opposing this senseless and misguided Bill. Thank you.

  • Sean-Keoni Ellis

    Person

    Good morning great elected leaders. I wish there was more of you guys in the front here to hear all of our public comments. My name is Sean Ellis. I'm a political organizer, community organizer and labor organizer for San Diego, the UA.

  • Sean-Keoni Ellis

    Person

    I'm here representing the UA as a whole, the building trades, our local union and all workers union. And not at the end of the day, prevailing wage sets the standard for all workers across our great region.

  • Sean-Keoni Ellis

    Person

    I go to a lot of these meetings and I hear every time that we talk about compassion, we talk about low income housing. How do we make the precedence of California being the best state in the union? Well, I oppose AB 130. It literally brings us all the way down to $24 an hour.

  • Sean-Keoni Ellis

    Person

    Let me, let me just hit that real quick. That's $49,000 a year which puts you at 50% of the AMI in our region. Is that really helping out our community? It isn't.

  • Sean-Keoni Ellis

    Person

    We will be rolling back decades and decades of union leadership here with great leaders of the Democratic Party and the Republicans to set the standard for the workers that build this great state and where our people will live there.

  • Sean-Keoni Ellis

    Person

    So I urge you to to have some leadership stand strong and demand that these prevailing wages are actually meeting living wages so that our people can be happy, they can thrive and reach the ladder of opportunity once again. My name is Sean Ellis, community organizer for the United Association.

  • Sean-Keoni Ellis

    Person

    Thank you for your time and God bless you guys.

  • Graciela Castillo-Krings

    Person

    Good morning Mr. Chair and Members. Graciela Castillo Krings here on behalf of the California Housing Consortium, All Home Enterprise community partners. I'm going to have to disagree with some of the Members of the public. We actually think that this is an improvement for actual workers.

  • Graciela Castillo-Krings

    Person

    Remember this actual provision is for market rate development that currently does not actually pay prevailing wage. We think that they should pay more. It might not be prevailing wage. But this is a new standard that can put more people into work and also create the communities that we want.

  • Graciela Castillo-Krings

    Person

    Workers should not have to be driving two hours because that's all they can afford. They actually should be able to walk to work. They should be able to come home and put their kids to bed. And we think that the solutions are in 130. So thank you for that piece of legislation and we stand in support.

  • Steven Stenzler

    Person

    Good morning Mr. Chairmember. Steven Stenzler with Brownstein on behalf of the Bay Area Council, the Housing Action Coalition and the Chamber of Progress want to echo the comments of my colleague Graciela and also mention that the we're here in strong support of AB130, particularly the CEQA provisions which we think strike the right balance between encouraging infill development which is the most environmentally friendly type of development where we need to be building and and also helping us to address the urgency of our housing crisis in a way that's balanced and protects the environment and also leads to smart development.

  • Steven Stenzler

    Person

    So appreciate your support. Thank you.

  • Sosan Madanat

    Person

    Good morning Chair and Members Sosan Madanat, W Strategies here on behalf of UnidosUS and I'm also giving a courtesy me too for the Inner City Law Center in support of AB130. Lining my comments with my colleagues ahead of me.

  • Sosan Madanat

    Person

    And I'm also here on behalf of the Certified California Nurse Midwives Association here to urge continued support for the nurse midwifery workforce development. Thank you.

  • Kimberly Sanchez

    Person

    Good morning. Kimberly Sanchez with NextGen in California on transportation and climate. We thank the Legislature and the Governor for fully protecting 1.1 billion in prior transit relief and and extending a 7,750 million loan to Bay Area transit agencies.

  • Kimberly Sanchez

    Person

    We're also grateful for limiting the use of Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund Dollars for General Fund solutions to 1 billion this fiscal year in a tough budget year. We appreciate the commitment to these essential climate investments and their deal in the final but and and their inclusion in the final budget deal on higher ed.

  • Kimberly Sanchez

    Person

    We thank the Legislature and the Governor for fully funding Cal Grant and middle class scholarships, allocating 20 million for emergency financial aid at community colleges, 15 million for dream resource liaisons and adopting the continued use of the 2020 cohort default rates.

  • Kimberly Sanchez

    Person

    These are critical and and much needed investments to support our most vulnerable students in a year where they and their families are facing multiple crises. Thank you for the investments in the final budget agreement.

  • Corey Brown

    Person

    Mr. Chair and Members of the Committee, Corey Brown with Resources Legacy Fund also speaking on behalf of Public Health Institute. We we strongly oppose the AB 141 Cannabis Trailer Bill. That measure would divert over $700 million away from child care, youth, drug dependency, environmental restoration in order to avoid increases in fees by the cannabis industry.

  • Corey Brown

    Person

    Voters got it right. Department of Cannabis Control's budget is supposed to be paid entirely out of fees on the industry, not by taking money away from child care and environmental restoration. This Bill clearly violates voter intent with Proposition 64. We urge you to reject it. This Bill is not needed to bring a balanced budget.

  • Corey Brown

    Person

    We urge you to instead do what the voter said. Have the Department of Cannabis Control through its regulations raise the money it's supposed to from fees to pay for its costs. Prioritize kids in the environment, not Canada's best industry profits. Thank you.

  • Tona Miranda

    Person

    Hello, my name is Tona Miranda and I'm here on behalf of Youth Forward and the 50 tribal partners throughout the state that have received funding from Tier 3 of Prop 64. By cutting these funds at the rate suggested in AB141 would be absolutely devastating to tribal California.

  • Tona Miranda

    Person

    To date there has been over $40 million put back into tribal communities for youth substance abuse funds. The cannabis industry has thrived on the backs of tribal lands and people. Please support the most vulnerable on this issue. Thank you.

  • Monica Madrid

    Person

    Hi, my name is Monica Madrid with the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights CHIRLA. We would like to thank the Legislature for the additional $10 million for immigrant legal services. We would also like to thank the Legislature for the one time funding for Dream Resource liaisons at the community colleges.

  • Monica Madrid

    Person

    But we urge the Legislature to pass a Budget Trailer Bill that will include funding for AB278 which was signed into law in 2023 and created a high school Dream Resource Center center the High School Dream Resource Centers. With the attack on immigrants at the federal by the Federal Administration, it is now more than ever important that we continue to support our immigrant communities during this difficult time.

  • Monica Madrid

    Person

    We also oppose the proposed cuts to Medi Cal and align our comments with the with Health access. And we urge the Legislature and the Governor to rethink that proposal. Thank you.

  • Janice O'Malley

    Person

    Good afternoon Chair Gabriel Janice o' Malley with AFSCME California. Appreciate the work and leadership of the Chair and the chairs of the subcommittees on finding balance and developing a budget in challenging times, particularly ensuring that our state workers have the ability to bargain in good faith without the process being usurped.

  • Janice O'Malley

    Person

    We're also grateful for emergency funding for transit in LA County. But unfortunately we want to express our vehement opposition to AB129 related to the establishment of an HSS Advisory Committee.

  • Janice O'Malley

    Person

    This language was not agreed upon by our Members of Local 3930 UDW and we ask that you reject this rush proposal until we can have further conversations with the Administration. Thank you.

  • Jordan Panana Carbajal

    Person

    Good morning, Chair, Members of the Committee, my name is Jordan P. Carbajal. Here on behalf of California YIMBY, I first want to express my gratitude to the Committee for proposing AB130 which includes language from from AB 609 that exempts certain infill housing projects from CEQA.

  • Jordan Panana Carbajal

    Person

    If this Bill passes, it will be a major step towards bringing our housing policies in line with our world leading climate policies and make it significantly easier to achieve our goals.

  • Jordan Panana Carbajal

    Person

    Not just on housing affordability, but also on environmental preservation, clean air, reducing traffic congestion and helping make California a favorable place to live, work and raise a family. California YIMBY and the entire YIMBY movement have been working on this this goal for over eight years and we're happy to see included on AB130.

  • Jordan Panana Carbajal

    Person

    I'm also here to speak in support of the California Apartment Association in support of AB130 as well. Thank you so much.

  • Danielle Bautista

    Person

    Good morning Chairmembers. My name is Danielle Bautista with United Ways of California. We first want to appreciate the Legislature's dedication to crafting a budget during these challenging times, especially with federal uncertainties coming down the pipeline. I wanted to uplift two items of concern regarding health care.

  • Danielle Bautista

    Person

    The first is the proposed freeze on Medi Cal Enrollment, which we believe undermines our commitment that everyone deserves access to health care regardless of their immigration status.

  • Danielle Bautista

    Person

    The second is while the $30 monthly premium is an improvement to the $100 proposed in the May revision, it still creates a financial barrier for many families and households already struggling with California's high cost of living. And we urge the Legislature's continued efforts to keep healthcare truly affordable and accessible for our most vulnerable. Thank you.

  • Stephanie Hall

    Person

    Hello, my name is Stephanie Hall. I'm an electrician with the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 551. We cover Sonoma County, Marin, Humboldt, Del Norte Lake and Mendocino. Prior to getting into the electrical field, I was living in poverty, probably not making it to my 25th birthday.

  • Stephanie Hall

    Person

    If it wasn't for being able to make the wage that I'm making now, I surely wouldn't be here. So we strongly oppose AB130 and I hope you guys listen to that.

  • John McEntagart

    Person

    Hello and thank you very much Chair and Committee Members that are still here. My name is John McEntagart. I am the business manager for IBEW Local 551, and we appreciate the opportunity just to talk to you about 130.

  • John McEntagart

    Person

    When it comes to negotiations, what we do on our side of the table is we sit down with management and we go over everything, you know, what it takes to live in our jurisdiction and what it takes to actually be a productive Member working for the contractor so the contractor can be profitable and we can actually pay our bills and live in our jurisdiction.

  • John McEntagart

    Person

    We knocked that out over a few months. And after a long period, then we land on a number that we agree on. The contractors say that they can make money on it. We. We say we can pay our bills on it. That's labor management negotiations. We've done that already with a residential prevailing wage in our jurisdiction.

  • John McEntagart

    Person

    Your offer of $36 or your legislation here of $36 is way below what we've come up with for residential, which is around $63. So you're looking to cut in half what we've already negotiated with the contractors. Take that $36. And even the Member earlier that talked about that $74 or $72 dollars 72,000 over a year.

  • John McEntagart

    Person

    That's if they work full time. Most residential or construction workers in general do not work full time. So who can live on that in Sonoma County? Who can live on $48,000 in any county in California? What are you asking them to do? So, unfortunately, what we would ask you to do is please talk to the building trades.

  • John McEntagart

    Person

    Please look at them and say, okay, what is your rate? What do you agree with? We have agreed that prevailing wages is the lower rate. That is the agreed upon rate. That is what we should call, we all should call a living wage because we've agreed labor has agreed on that and management has agreed on that.

  • John McEntagart

    Person

    We hope you will too. Thank you.

  • Tiffany Phan

    Person

    Good morning. Tiffany Phan on behalf of the California Efficiency and Demand Management Council, also in opposition to AB130, the housing trailer Bill, specifically on the sections regarding the moratorium on state and local building standards.

  • Tiffany Phan

    Person

    So we ask you to strike sections 29 through 31 to 37 through 42 and allow AB 306 to continue through the regular policy process. Thank you.

  • Sarah Brennan

    Person

    Sarah Brennan with the Weideman Group on behalf of Nonprofit Housing Association of Northern California in strong support of AB130. There's a great deal to like in this measure, but we'd like to highlight our particular enthusiasm for the provisions on the establishment of the vehicle Miles traveled Fund to support affordable infill.

  • Sarah Brennan

    Person

    And then on behalf of valor us we thank the Legislature and key advocates, Assembly Members Gabriel Ramos and Chiavo for the commitment to include 100 million for the crime victim services funding in the final budget. Thank you.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    Good. I don't know whether it's. Good morning, good afternoon, Good morning, Chair. Good morning Committee Members. Chris Hannan, President of the State Building Construction Trades Council of California, representing over 150 affiliates with over 450,000 Members in California. Members that are working millions of hours per year in housing.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    It is frankly insulting that I'm addressing this Committee about a budget trailer Bill that has a residential minimum wage, a Bill that's referred to as a infill housing Bill. This is not an infill housing Bill. It's an exemption from environmental law from CEQA for an urban census tract which is nearly the entire State of California.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    There are zero affordability requirements. There were no labor standards in it until we seen an anonymous source. We seen some language that had labor standards only above 85ft, which is prevailing wage. Some additional requirements to require some health care provisions as well as apprenticeship utilization and enforcement. Below 85ft there are no labor provisions. No labor provisions.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    This Bill further undoes. Undoes thoughtful legislation over the last five to six years whether the state building trades thought that the labor standards were robust enough at the time. They all had meaningful labor standards like prevailing wage, health care requirements, apprenticeship utilization, skilled and trained workforce, prevailing wage. There are lower wages to prevailing wage.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    Many unions, many trades have residential prevailing wages posted. There's also registered apprenticeship where apprentices learning their craft starting out make anywhere between 40 to 50% of journey level workers. It's recognized by the State of California.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    The frankly insulting residential minimum wage would undermine the ability for apprenticeship programs for trade unions to bring in Members of your community to get them the training they need for their whole career. Not making desperate decisions to make a one time wage which we can't even point to which wage a worker would get to.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    60% of the workers would have to make above a certain amount. The rest of the 40% would have to make above another amount. There's different amounts throughout the state. An employer can take a health care credit. There's no parameters around the health care credit.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    There's no parameters like that are in the California State prevailing wage law or within the federal Davis Bacon law where you have to annualize the cost of health care on an hourly basis. There's no parameters.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    There are cases if an employer took a health care credit where you would have construction workers who spent their career learning how to be tile setters, learning how to be operating engineers, learning how to be bricklayers and plumbers. I'm not going to name every one of the trades but have devoted their careers to that.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    Would have a lower wage than the minimum wage for fast food workers in the State of California. A lower wage than health care workers. The State Building Construction Trades Council supports raising the minimum wage for all workers in California. We support those in different sectors if they think that would uplift workers.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    Setting a two tiered wage schedule that there's no way to enforce until after the job's over. Because we don't know how many workers, we don't know whether it's workers, whether it's hours, fit into the 60%, fit into the 40%. There's no criteria to deducting wages for health care, healthcare that families need.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    People need to be healthy in the State of California. A value of the State of California. We're going to let employers deduct. We're going to let employers and developers choose who gets the higher wage, who gets the lower wage. Based on what? I don't know what. It's not based on the trade, it's not based on the skill. It's based on arbitrary things.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    Could it be based on the color of your hair, the color of your eyes, your gender, your age, you're an older worker, you're a younger worker, your sexual orientation, whether you're a Democrat, whether you're a Republican, whether you support a union, whether you're not, whether you're a company person, whether you fear for your status in this country, we try to push back on the Federal Government, breaking up families, breaking up communities.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    This Bill will set up a minimum wage structure that will allow employers to punish workers, workers that are afraid of their status, workers that are afraid to get on that next job to be able to make a living, workers that would benefit from registered apprenticeship, learning their craft so that they could be productive beyond a task or one project for their career.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    It is insulting. And why is the building trades not at the table, but because we demand prevailing wage as a floor? The crafts that have residential prevailing wage, registered apprenticeship, that's the floor. We're not at the table because that's not acceptable. There's not enough profit to completely bypass environmental law. Whether that's smart or not.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    I would argue it's not smart, but that is insulting for me to be able to represent our membership in public comment facing a minimum wage that we haven't asked for. We do not support and will not help uplift workers. It will perpetuate discrimination, it will harm opportunities.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    And I'm going to close with this Bill should be voted down. This Bill should be pulled and it should not come back up for discussion.

  • Chris Hannan

    Person

    We shouldn't have a more robust discussion about how to suppress wages, how to prevent opportunities and bypass thoughtful streamlining that was built around transit centers, built in infill developments to reduce traffic and effects on the environment and uplift workers and include affordable housing. Thank you.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. I know we have a lot of strong feelings about this. I'm just going to. I want to. I want to be fair to everybody on all sides. So just asking people to be mindful of the fact that we still have a lot of folks to make public comment.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    So thank you all and thank you all for being here.

  • Mike Hartley

    Person

    Mike Hartley California State Pipe Trades Council I completely agree with everything Chris said, but there's something here I also wanted to say that he didn't bring up. You say this is to help for affordable housing. Affordable for who?

  • Mike Hartley

    Person

    When you're going to lower the construction workers wage, the houses that they build they can't afford because you're going to lower the wage, that's not affordable housing. That's not helping anybody in the entire community. Because if everybody's getting less wages then everybody's paying for less things. Right?

  • Mike Hartley

    Person

    We have a lot of other problems and a lot of other issues. This makes no sense to me. Why we're being involved are the Assembly is getting involved in setting residential housing wages. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Please refrain from clapping.

  • Mitchell Bechtel

    Person

    Aloha. Mitchell Bechtel on behalf of the District Council of Ironworkers in opposition to AB130. This is a bad Bill. It's half baked. The enforcement of the wages is non enforceable. If you were a worker, you're not going to get ahead under these new wages.

  • Mitchell Bechtel

    Person

    No houses are going to get built that any of these workers can actually live in. This at the end of the day is a corporate giveaway on the backs of workers disguised as being affordable. Vote it down.

  • Mickey Owens

    Person

    Mickey Owens Local 669 Sprinkler Fitters we are here to oppose the 130 strongly. Thank you.

  • Matthew Cremins

    Person

    Thank you. Chair and Members. Matt Cremens here on behalf of the California Nevada Conference of Operating Engineers here today in strong opposition to ABS B130. We would urge your reconsideration of codifying substandard wage rates for construction workers and housing. We do see this as a rollback of existing prevailing wage that applies to currently to streamline housing.

  • Matthew Cremins

    Person

    And we do not think that the housing crisis should be solved on the backs of workers who are expected to fix the housing crisis. We'd urge your opposition thank you.

  • James Thuerwachter

    Person

    Thank you. Chair Members James Thuerwachter and I'm with the California State Council of Laborers. We represent about 80,000 workers throughout the state who build California's infrastructure. We are comprised of women, people of color and people who come from the criminal justice and foster care systems.

  • James Thuerwachter

    Person

    This is very important that we are able to provide them with apprenticeship, training and livable wages. They should have the right to live in the communities and where they work and the communities in which they build. AB130 would prevent this and hinder that process. So we urge you to oppose this. Thank you very much.

  • Yesenia Jimenez

    Person

    Yesenia Jimenez with End Child Poverty in California, Parent Voices California Liberation in a Generation and Marked by Covid we thank the Legislature, especially Senator Smallwood-Cuevas and Governor for restoring 10 million for the Hope Accounts program which helps honor the promise made to more than 55,000 foster youth and children bereaved by the COVID pandemic.

  • Yesenia Jimenez

    Person

    While we are grateful for the 10 million increase per 1 California and CHIRP and 7.5 million for the seed initiative, this budget still includes deep cuts to immigrant Californians who are under attack by this Federal Government. Last week alone my hometown of Boyle Heights and South Central were devastated by raids.

  • Yesenia Jimenez

    Person

    I had to move up my Family Members from SoCal up to here to make sure that they were safe from these raids happening across our state. We remain opposed to the proposed language restricting access to the Equal Access Fund. Now is not the time to fall to the rhetoric of this federal Administration.

  • Yesenia Jimenez

    Person

    We echo comments from Health for All advocates and uplift that the cost pressure is from corporations who aren't providing health care and aren't failing to pay their fair share in revenues. We urge the Legislature and Administration to step up and adopt revenues necessary for the world's fourth largest economy to be a California for all.

  • Yesenia Jimenez

    Person

    Thank you so much.

  • Sam Wilkinson

    Person

    Hello Sam Wilkinson also on behalf of End Child Poverty in California and Parent Voices California. We are thrilled to see that the Legislature built on the may revise to further Streamline and reimagine CalWORKS. It is critical to finalize this package in the human Services trailer Bill process on childcare.

  • Sam Wilkinson

    Person

    We appreciate the work in this budget that there is, but there is much to do to achieve the true cost of care and the alternate methodology.

  • Sam Wilkinson

    Person

    We are grateful for the Legislator Legislature's work to invest in children and families including restorations to foster youth, rate reform, FFA agencies, the first systems and emergency bridge, IHSS overtime eligibility, the medical asset test and bringing families home and ongoing leadership to maximize universal school meals and sunbucks to prevent child hunger year round.

  • Sam Wilkinson

    Person

    We continue to call for investments in promised neighborhoods who are now facing a fiscal cliff, laying off staff and leaving communities most attacked by Federal Administration Administration without trusted resources. Finally, we thank the Legislature and the Governor for proposals included in this budget to progressively raise revenues.

  • Sam Wilkinson

    Person

    However, this budget still fails to adopt the necessary revenue solutions to support all Californians.

  • Sam Wilkinson

    Person

    We sincerely appreciate the efforts of Members of this Committee and the Assembly to create a fair California by having the ultra wealthy and corporations pay their fair share to California given that they are building and in many cases extracting from or their wealth on the back of and from our people. Thank you so much.

  • Kai Clausen

    Person

    Good afternoon. Good morning, Chair and Members. Thank you so much for your time today. Kai Clausen on behalf of California State Parks Foundation in strong support of the 6.75 million that's been appropriated for the State Library Parks Pass program.

  • Kai Clausen

    Person

    This has been an effective program that has been increasing access and promotes outdoor stewardship for folks that need that access. I'm also here on behalf of CalStart to thank the Legislature for their appropriation of the 132 million from the HINO settlement for HVIP. So thank you so much.

  • Karim Drissi

    Person

    Good morning Mr. Chair and Members. Karim Drissi on behalf of the California Building Industry Association, first and foremost I want to acknowledge and thank the Committee for their Efforts on this robust budget package.

  • Karim Drissi

    Person

    However, we are here today in strong opposition to Section 59 of AB 130 as well as SB130 which would establish a VMT mitigation bank which is currently drafted, would add major unnecessary costs to the construction of housing and lead to fewer housing units being built for California's working families and would have a disproportionate impact on working families of color.

  • Karim Drissi

    Person

    We have drafted amendment language for your consideration if the Committee Deems it appropriate. This is not a it would be nice to have amendment. This is definitely a direly needed amendment in order to fix section 59 of AB130 and SB130.

  • Karim Drissi

    Person

    We understand and appreciate the legislative leadership would like to bring the Bill up on Friday on the floor. Having said that, nothing precludes the Legislature from bringing it up on Monday or at a later time. We look forward to the Committee's engagement on our amendment request. Grateful for the Committee's leadership.

  • Karim Drissi

    Person

    However, at this time we do strongly urge a no vote on this measure which we have deemed a housing killer. Thank you so much.

  • Shane Gusman

    Person

    Good morning Shane Gusman on behalf of Teamsters California and their 250,000 Members in this state we are strongly opposed to AB130. It is undermines what the Legislature says it's trying to do with affordability. By taking away good jobs. You don't make things affordable, including housing. The process is absolutely wrong here.

  • Shane Gusman

    Person

    This is a Bill that couldn't get a motion in labor Committee and you are, you are putting it before the Legislature. It just. We urge the Committee to reject it. It's terrible.

  • Elmer Lizardi

    Person

    Thank you. Good morning chair Members. Elmer Lazardi here on behalf of the California Federation of Labor Unions. We stand with our brothers and sisters in the building and construction trades in opposition to the provost prevailing wage trailer billing which in the budget. This proposal will ultimately lower wages and harm hundreds of thousands of workers in California.

  • Elmer Lizardi

    Person

    We urge your no vote on this regressive policy. Thank you.

  • Kelly Larue

    Person

    Good afternoon. Kelly Larue here on behalf of PHI Air Ambulance. We have five emergency air ambulance bases in the rural north and the Central Valley. We're disappointed we were not included for a modest investment of $8 million. And this is statewide, not just for PHI, but this is not a nice to have.

  • Kelly Larue

    Person

    Ambulance bases are reconsidering the positioning of their assets because it's been almost two years with a reimbursement rate that only covers 20% of the cost of a transport.

  • Kelly Larue

    Person

    So you know, for all of you that live in the rural north and also in the Central Valley and you know, in urban areas when you know, minutes count, I would hope that you know, you would reconsider funding this investment. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi. Orgill De Bruy Reyes, an intern with the Mesa Verde Group here on behalf of Inclusive action for the city to share their appreciation for the inclusion of the SEED initiative. Right now more than ever, small businesses are struggling, especially immigrant owned or limited English proficient small business owners.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    So thank you to all of the leadership for its inclusion. On behalf of the alliance for a Better Community and the Southern California College Access Network. We're appreciative of the investment for community outreach, financial aid. Thank you.

  • Christopher Sanchez

    Person

    Christopher Sanchez on behalf of the Government Worker Center want to appreciate the Legislature and the Governor for including the extension of the pilot program for government workers in California for the implementation of SB62.

  • Christopher Sanchez

    Person

    And then on behalf of and the Central American Resource center, echoing all the comments of our colleagues related to health for all and immigration legal services and just a finer point on immigration legal Services. TPS is status that could be taken away at night.

  • Christopher Sanchez

    Person

    We expect the Hondurans to have a Decision on July before July 5 for their status to be removed from this federal Administration. And then just lastly, on behalf of inclusive action for the city, disappointed to see that there wasn't additional funding for just acquisition for communities in El Tedena who experienced the Eaton fire. Thank you sir.

  • Vince Sugrue

    Person

    Good morning chair and Members. My name is Vince Surgrue. I represent 25,000 hard working men and women with the Sheet Metal Workers in Western States Council of Sheet Metal Workers here to stand in opposition of AB130.

  • Vince Sugrue

    Person

    You know, as a union, we are proud to take in veterans, folks that have traditionally disadvantaged, have been traditionally disadvantaged, folks from who have been formerly incarcerated. And we want to, we want to uplift workers. That is our role as a union. And, and what AB130 is going to do is completely eliminate our ability to do that.

  • Vince Sugrue

    Person

    As previous speakers have said, we have fought hard to bring good labor standards through the State of California. But what is in front of you is going to fundamentally undermine our ability to uplift workers within this space. Just for point of reference, our health care is $16 an hour.

  • Vince Sugrue

    Person

    That's what a first year apprentice pays in addition to a base wage. This will fundamentally undercut the hard working men and women of the sheet metal workers. We urge you to reject it. Thank you.

  • Jeff Hunterlock

    Person

    Hello Chair and Committee. My name is Jeff Hunterlock with the Operating Engineers. I'm also the secretary treasurer for the Humboldt Del Norte Building and Construction Trades all the way up in Eureka, California. So listen, this Bill, AB130, we oppose it. Not in General. Look, it's bad for all of California.

  • Jeff Hunterlock

    Person

    It's bad in the cities, it's bad in countries and it's bad for rural areas. And listen, we're already getting our butts kicked in rural areas. So this Bill needs to go away and it needs to get pulled and shouldn't come back up.

  • Jeff Hunterlock

    Person

    We stand with the California State Building Trades Council and we are in strong opposition to this. Thank you for your time.

  • Justin Garcia

    Person

    Hello, Justin Garcia. I'm an environmental scientist at the Department of Fish and Wildlife and, and here speaking on behalf of CAPS, UAW Local 1115 after four years without a contract, including two years with no pay increases in 2022 and 2023. State scientists finally ratified an agreement with the state last fall.

  • Justin Garcia

    Person

    And I want to thank this Committee and the Legislature for standing with state scientists during our long and hard fought struggle. Also want to thank you for respecting collective bargaining rights for state workers in the state budget and pausing the elimination of hundreds of vacant state scientist positions.

  • Justin Garcia

    Person

    But instead of balancing the budget on the backs of state workers. Please consider looking at new sources of revenue and asking the top 1% to pay their fair share to support state scientific programs. Thank you for your continued support and solidarity with labor.

  • Carolyn Veal-Hunter

    Person

    Carolyn Veal Hunter on behalf of Yocha Dehe Wintun Nation, Shingle Springs Band of Miwok Indians, the Kahuila Band of Indians, Pomo Upper Lake, the Changa Band of Indians, United Auburn Indian Community, Viejas Band of Kumeyaaya Indians, Picayune Ranch of Chachonsee Indians and Big Valley Rancheria.

  • Carolyn Veal-Hunter

    Person

    We stand opposed to AB130 and the secret provisions that are in the Bill. We believe that it totally undoes years fought tribal cultural protections and think that it should have been part of a regular Bill process. So we oppose AB130 in that regard. Thank you.

  • Ken Ferrera

    Person

    Ken Ferrera, the Sacramento Sierra Building and Construction Trades Council. We are in agreement in support to state building trades. AB130 is a suppressive Bill. It suppresses the wages of our workers. It makes health care more burdensome. And this is coming before the Legislature that says it believes in living wages and affordable health care.

  • Ken Ferrera

    Person

    We absolutely oppose this Bill. We think it's complete garbage. Thank you.

  • Anallely Martin

    Person

    Good afternoon. I'm Anallely Martin with the California Immigrant Policy Center. We appreciate the inclusion of 7.5 million for the seed program. This reinvestment ensures that immigrant entrepreneurs have access to economic mobility through entrepreneurship.

  • Anallely Martin

    Person

    Finally, we want to echo the comments made by our colleagues at Health Access and Western Center regarding the enrollment freeze and inclusion of premiums to medical for undocumented immigrants. These are significant hurdles that will result in people losing health care in light of the violent raids we have seen in our state.

  • Anallely Martin

    Person

    We need the Governor and state leaders to match their rhetoric in support of immigrants with meaningful actions. Protecting immigrants means protecting their access to health care. Thank you.

  • Eduardo Martinez

    Person

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. Eduardo Martinez here on two clients. First, on behalf of Actors Equity. We're a national union of theater actors in the live arts. I want to thank the Legislature and the Governor for restoring the cut to the performing arts Equitable Payroll Fund. Very important to our Members.

  • Eduardo Martinez

    Person

    And additionally on behalf of Western Dental, we're the state's largest medical dental provider. We also want to thank the Legislature and the Governor for restoring cuts to Prop 56 supplemental payments. I want to look forward to working with both the Administration and the Legislature on continuing that funding to make sure access to oral health is maintained. Thank you.

  • Eddie Bernacchi

    Person

    Good morning, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Committee, Eddie Bernacchi, on behalf of the National Electrical Contractors Association and the California Legislative Conference of the Plumbing, Heating and Piping Industry representing thousands of union signatory mechanical and electrical contractors throughout the state. We have serious concerns with the minimum wage for housing construction provisions in AB130.

  • Eddie Bernacchi

    Person

    Our contractors enter into competitive collectively bargained residential rates to build housing throughout the state.

  • Eddie Bernacchi

    Person

    Currently, if this Bill were to pass as in print, it would effectively make our contractors no longer competitive and prohibitive of their ability to bid these projects until those agreements either are terminated or expired, which would be to the detriment of our union employees. So for those reasons, we urge no vote on that provision. Thank you.

  • Kristina Bas Hamilton

    Person

    Hello, Mr. Chair, Members of the Committee, Kristina Bas Hamilton here today with United Domestic Workers representing 200,000 IHSS providers. We are very thankful to the Legislature for voting against or negotiating away these terrible cuts to overtime pay for IHSS. That would have been really a bad, bad policy move. So thank you for that.

  • Kristina Bas Hamilton

    Person

    But also wanting to express our vehement opposition to AB129, SB129, which is the labor trailer Bill. We did not have any say in that language that was inserted in there regarding statewide bargaining. In fact, it would take us backward. We don't need to study this issue for another five years.

  • Kristina Bas Hamilton

    Person

    This is an ongoing 15 year struggle here and we need you to stand with us and to oppose this Bill. Thank you.

  • Brennan Wong

    Person

    Good afternoon. Now, Mr. Chair, Brennan Wong on behalf of a couple of clients, first for Valley Clean Air.

  • Brennan Wong

    Person

    Now, we wanted to thank the Legislature, specifically thank leadership this side, thank you, thank Members of this Committee and thank Committee staff for working with us over the last several months on making sure our clean cars for all programs are open and running and serving our constituents both during early action and also as part of the trailer.

  • Brennan Wong

    Person

    Now with AB127 switching gears, though, also here on behalf of the Building Decarbonization Coalition in respect of opposition to AB130, specifically the provisions that incorporate the building standards moratorium that was outlined at AB306. We have been working with the author's office and the speaker's office over the last several months to express our concerns and how this was.

  • Brennan Wong

    Person

    We think this will raise costs and will actually hamper efforts to transition home heating appliances to cleaner alternatives. And so we urge the Legislature to return that to the regular policy process. But thank you.

  • Michael McGarrigan

    Person

    Hi, my name is Michael McGarrigan. I'm a Vice President with a company called Energy Solutions. We are a California-based, mission-driven company working on equitable decarbonization and greenhouse gas emissions reductions programs and I am here to oppose AB 130, unless amended to remove language from AB 306 related to building code development.

  • Michael McGarrigan

    Person

    We support the goals of increase housing and supporting fire rebuilds, but pausing the state's Building Energy Code will not accommodate accomplish those goals. Energy codes actually reduce energy use and utility bill—increase utility bill savings. So, as written, this Bill will increase costs for Californians and worsen our energy affordability crisis.

  • Michael McGarrigan

    Person

    That will also result in significant increases in greenhouse gas emissions, require the state to add power plants to the grid. It's also a significant policy proposal being considered through a budget bill which is—we do not support that process either. So, respectfully, we strongly oppose the addition of language from AB 306 and AB 130.

  • Michael McGarrigan

    Person

    Thank you very much for the chance to comment.

  • Terry Brennand

    Person

    Mr. Chair and Members, Terry Brennand, on behalf of SEIU California, representing over 750,000 working men and women in California. We're very appreciative of, of the improvements made by the Legislature in this budget. It's vastly an improvement over what the Governor proposed in either January or the May Revise. We appreciate that.

  • Terry Brennand

    Person

    We're very proud of the progress made in the budget this year and the contributions that workers voices made in that progress. However, we've got serious threats coming down from the Federal Government, coming after health care, anti-hunger programs, education. It makes it very clear that this is not a template going forward.

  • Terry Brennand

    Person

    We're, we're going to need to act much more boldly to deal with our tax structure in the tax system as Washington aims to enrich corporations and billionaire CEOs and continue to dump the cuts and the billions of dollars onto the safety net, working families, and the poor. Thank you very much.

  • Natalie Spivak

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair and Members. Natalie Spivak with Housing California. Also, speaking on behalf of the California Housing Partnership. First, just want to express our immense gratitude for the inclusion of the state LIHTC Program and the Multifamily Housing Program in the budget.

  • Natalie Spivak

    Person

    Also, want to express our support for the housing trailer bill, AB 130, particularly, the provision to allow project developers to mitigate their VMT obligations under CEQA. This is an existing obligation, and this policy would create an easier way for project developers to comply. We also are actually co-sponsoring AB 1244 which incorporates a similar policy.

  • Natalie Spivak

    Person

    So, want to encourage your support of that. Thank you.

  • Eric Parades

    Person

    Hi. Eric Paredes with the California Faculty Association. On behalf of the 29,000 faculty members who work in the California State University system, we thank the Legislature for rejecting the proposed initial cuts to the CSU. We also appreciate the additional investments for student enrollment and retention and also to individual campuses like Sonoma State.

  • Eric Parades

    Person

    We know that it's been a difficult budget year, and we just appreciate the Legislature's commitment to higher education. Thank you.

  • Tiffany Mok

    Person

    Hi, Tiffany Mock, on behalf of CFT, a union of educators and classified professionals. We want to thank all the Legislature and the legislative staff for the big difference in 8% versus almost around 3% of UC funding cuts for our lectures. We're still seeing cuts even this week. We had three librarians let go even today.

  • Tiffany Mok

    Person

    So, we appreciate the funding but hope that there will be some future accountability for how the money is spent as well. We want to thank for our community colleges, the growth funding. It means a whole lot to allow community colleges to grow and get funding for that.

  • Tiffany Mok

    Person

    We oppose the Medi-Cal cuts to immigrant families and the lack of revenues in the budget. And finally, we stand in solidarity with the state building trades, as a fellow union member. Thank you.

  • Rocky Fernandez

    Person

    Rocky Fernandez with the Center for Sustainable Energy. Thanks to the Chair and the staff and the Committee Members. We're here to express some concerns around the Clean Cars for All changes. We are a program administrator for two of the air districts, as well as with the statewide program.

  • Rocky Fernandez

    Person

    We don't think that the program should be cannibalizing each other or we risk having clean cars for some and we want to avoid that. The financing assistance statewide has proved to be very popular.

  • Rocky Fernandez

    Person

    We believe that with the Federal Government likely to take away electric vehicle tax credits, this is going to be the largest incentive that we have left in the state.

  • Rocky Fernandez

    Person

    And we believe that you should devote more greenhouse gas reduction fund monies to make sure that we keep these programs strong, at the state level and at the district level. Thank you.

  • Timothy Burr

    Person

    Good afternoon. My name is Timothy Burr and I'm here on behalf of a coalition of private duty nursing providers such as Maxim Healthcare, Aviana Healthcare, and Prime Home Health.

  • Timothy Burr

    Person

    Medi-Cal rates for PDN in California are some of the lowest in the Western United States, putting medically fragile children at risk, many of whom require ventilators or tracheostomy care to survive. We are disappointed this budget does not include an investment in PDN and provide a path to bring these kids home.

  • Timothy Burr

    Person

    Mr. Chair and Members, we have an opportunity to save the state money in this difficult budgetary year. We can move medically fragile children out of the hospitals and save the state $175 million annually. I'll say it again.

  • Timothy Burr

    Person

    A 40% reimbursement rate increase for PDN will save California $175 million annually and the state will receive a return on this investment in just eight months.

  • Timothy Burr

    Person

    Last year, the California Legislature and the Governor recognized the importance of this investment in PDN and included a $62 million investment in the budget to help keep children out of the hospital and at home with their families. The passage of Prop 35 nullified this increase.

  • Timothy Burr

    Person

    There are over a thousand kids in California, either waiting in hospitals for PDN services at home, or at home without this critical care. Kids do not deserve to spend the rest of their lives in hospitals as the state chooses a more costly alternative. Investing in PDN is fiscally and morally sound. Thank you.

  • Matthew Siverling

    Person

    Mr. Chair and Members. Matthew Sieverling, on behalf of the Los Angeles Probation Officers Union AFSCME 685. We stand here today opposed to new language added to Assembly Bill 118, which deals with the suitability of juvenile facilities for probationers.

  • Matthew Siverling

    Person

    Basically, the previous versions of this Bill contain language we actually actively supported which would have provided consequences and incentives for counties to actually comply with BSEC recommendations and directives found through audits on suitability of facilities.

  • Matthew Siverling

    Person

    The new Bill essentially just cuts off the funding altogether, ultimately harming the clients that we serve in the probation system and we oppose. Thank you.

  • John Hershey

    Person

    Good morning. My name is John Hershey with UA Local 447 Plumbers and Pipefitters, here in Sacramento.

  • John Hershey

    Person

    I just want to say that we are—I don't know how to express how much we are opposed to AB 130, but I just want to highlight, among other things said that the provisions that exempt projects from prevailing wage coverage are that they're under 80—or that they're under 85 ft in height—that are not 100% low income housing.

  • John Hershey

    Person

    Now, your typical five over one apartment building doesn't reach 85 ft, and that would pretty much exempt most public works housing projects from prevailing wage laws, which also impact apprenticeship collection, for—that could impact the California Apprenticeship Council, which then funds unilateral and joint apprenticeship training committees across the state.

  • John Hershey

    Person

    And so, the unforeseen knock on effects have not been really realized in this legislation. Additionally, the flat rates do not include any mention to apprenticeship or those payments and is not congruent to any existing building trades apprenticeship program, including ratios. We strongly oppose this Bill as it exists. Thank you very much.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair, Members, and staff. I'm Keeley O'Brien with Western Center on Law and Poverty, here, first, to echo some of the comments of my Western Center colleague and some of our partners on the End Child Poverty California Coalition.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    We're very grateful for the rejection of many of the cuts in the May Revision, but we remain concerned about the cuts that would still significantly impact immigrant Californians who are already under attack from the Federal Government, including cuts to Medi-Cal. We also remain opposed to the proposed language restricting access to, to the Equal Access Fund.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    We're grateful for the Legislature's leadership in investing in children and families, including restoration to the FERS program, the Emergency Child Care Bridge program, Bringing Families Home, and for restoring, restoring $10 million to the HOPE Accounts program.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    We're also grateful for the efforts to maximize utilization of the Universal School Meals program and to maximize utilization of Sun Bucks to prevent child hunger. We're also excited about the Legislature's plan to further streamline and reimagine CalWORKS, and we look forward to seeing that finalized in the human Services trailer bill process.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    Finally, we're thankful for the Legislature and the Governor for proposals included to progressively raise revenues, but this budget still neglects to adopt the necessary revenue solutions to effectively support all Californians.

  • Keely O'Brien

    Person

    We sincerely appreciate the efforts of our Members on this Committee to create a fair Californian—California—by having the ultra wealthy and corporations pay their fair share. Thank you.

  • Matt Robinson

    Person

    Thank you, Mr. Chair. Matt Robinson, on behalf of the California Transit Association. I just want to thank you and the Legislature for going to bat for our state's public transit agencies and ensuring that the commitments that have been made to us, going back to 2023, were upheld as part of the final budget agreement, including over a billion dollars.

  • Matt Robinson

    Person

    It's going to help our state's most critically challenged operators right now, in terms of their recovery still coming out of that Pandemic, still dealing with what has largely been a remote workforce.

  • Matt Robinson

    Person

    We also are grateful for the agreement that would provide some additional funding to our Bay Area operators, those that are really suffering from those ridership losses, that were very fare dependent, prior to the Pandemic, to buy them a bit more time as they look towards local solutions to address their needs.

  • Matt Robinson

    Person

    And then, finally, we do look forward to engaging with you on the sort of next iteration of what has been dubbed Cap and Invest as the GGRF funding is looked to be allocated moving forward. We rely on about 15% of that funding to support our operators, both in the capital side and on the operating side.

  • Matt Robinson

    Person

    And frankly, a lot of that funding, or the anticipation of that funding, has been built into budgets that go towards or through, excuse me, the '28-'29 fiscal year. And so, looking forward to that conversation as well. Thank you.

  • Carol Gonzalez

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair and Members. Carol Gonzalez, on behalf of the Cal State Student Association, the official voice of over 160,000 students, Hispanas Organized for Political Equality, Long Beach City College, and Gavilan College. We are just here to share our appreciation for overall protecting higher education and really the reductions to the cuts and deferrals, making additional investments and protecting our education systems and students during this difficult budget year.

  • Carol Gonzalez

    Person

    And on behalf of Long Beach City College and Gavilan College, we hope we can continue to tackle student housing in the future and just appreciate your leadership and to all of the staff for their time. Thank you.

  • Carlin Shelby

    Person

    Good afternoon, Chair and Members. Carly Shelby here representing the cities of Oakland, Palo Alto, Sunnyvale, Santa Barbara, and Buena Park. We've been working within a larger coalition of other local government environmental stakeholders to push forward workable solutions and amendments within the policy vehicle of AB 306.

  • Carlin Shelby

    Person

    Our concerns really hinge on the timeline for when the moratorium would go into place to allow for the adoption of the 2025 Building Standards Code and really tailoring the application of the moratorium to new residential developments.

  • Carlin Shelby

    Person

    I want to echo the concerns of others that came before me on this Bill and respectfully request that the provisions of that Bill that were installed into AB 130 be reinstructed and put into a policy vehicle so that we continue our work with members of policy committees, their staff, and Members within the Senate, just as we've done in the Assembly.

  • Carlin Shelby

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Tiffany Whiten

    Person

    Mr. Chair and Members, Tiffany Whiten with SEIU California, here in opposition to the Labor Trailer Bill 129. Unfortunately, while we are grateful for the 3.3 million inclusion into the budget for statewide collective bargaining, the language that's captured in 129, the labor trailer bill, is not it. We have not agreed to that language. We're not there yet.

  • Tiffany Whiten

    Person

    I'm hopeful that we can get there, but we need a little bit of time in order to get there. So, the request would be for you guys to hold 129, the labor bill, in Committee, allowing us the opportunity to continue to flush out that language related to statewide collective bargaining. Thank you so much.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    Mr. Chairman, Danny Curtin, with the California Council of Carpenters, and remaining Members here. Thank you for hanging in. Bear with me for a minute. I won't take long, but I do think I have to address a couple of the issues. First of all, thank you for keeping housing as the number one issue.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    It is the most destabilizing issue that we have in the state right now and it's a very complicated problem. I do want to respect the position that many of the members, affiliates, and colleagues of mine took on behalf of prevailing wages here. But I want to say, I've been doing this since 1985.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    I know some of you might have remembered that, but we have the most substantial prevailing wage laws in the country. And we have been a part of that. Carpenters actually passed many of these bills with the support of the trades. In some cases, not so much, but just definitely. And we wouldn't be up here, trust me.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    I would not be here saying that this is a Bill we support and it might hurt prevailing wages. It will not. And I want to make sure that's perfect. In the Bill itself, it says the wages that we're talking about will not be utilized in the determination of prevailing wages.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    And I could explain all that, but it takes forever and happy to answer questions. I am here to say though, there's 350,000 working people in California who build homes, maybe more, maybe as much as 400,000. That's larger than United's construction workforce. And I ask you to look into the numbers on that. But it's not the point.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    They don't have representation here. None of the people who got up here representing workers actually represent those workers. It's a virtually non-union industry. It is a crime scene with laws broken rampant, according by, in a rampant fashion, according to the Department of Industrial Relations, including wages, no payroll records.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    However, you want to look at it. You have the ability to give those people a substantial, modest, but substantial, and important raise. I know the union members, the union leaders are pooh-poohing that because prevailing wage is 2, 3, 4 times that rate. We have tried that way. We were here for 2011. We helped with 2011.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    In fact, we generated it in the beginning. It's not working the way it needs to work. It doesn't erase 2011, but it gives an option. I'll be done in just a moment. So, the issue is there's 350,000 workers, a good portion whom will receive a substantial wage increase. How do you enforce this? It's not enforceable.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    We say, well, the wage issues, the labor issues in construction are barely enforced now. You could ask the Department of Industrial Relations. They are overwhelmed. One of the issues we've developed over the years is the ability for unions to actually do enforcement on wage issues in construction.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    This Bill will give us more authority to enforce the wage laws, the labor laws, the workers comp laws, the tax payments, you name it. But the unions have to step in and step up to do this. So, the workforce in housing will receive a decent wage, not anything near what they earn and they should earn.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    But we then have to do the enforcement on that. So, this is not just a simple, oh, we can't do it. Yeah, there's complications. I appreciate the questions that were raised, Assemblyman, and others. It needs a little bit of work, but the premise is we're not cutting wages. This is a nonunion workforce in the private sector.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    This will actually enhance public sector housing because of the VMT Mitigation Fund. That will trigger prevailing wages and public works. But in private sector, we need housing. That is the crisis of the day.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    And to insist that everybody must make union wages in an industry that there is virtually, maybe not completely, but virtually, no union presence in the private sector housing industry, we got to get past that. That was why we decided to work with people who are dealing with this to say, raise the wages.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    Are they where we would want them? Yeah, maybe yes, maybe no. Could they be better? Maybe yes, maybe no. We need housing. So, we ask you, we encourage you, support this, bring that workforce up. They will benefit.

  • Danny Curtin

    Person

    Let us—give us—the responsibility to go in there and shape that crime scene up and eventually, things will change and turn around. So, that's, that's the—I just want to make sure you heard from the carpenters. That's why we're involved in this. Thank you very much.

  • Jeremy Smith

    Person

    Thank you, Mr. Chair and Members, staff of the Committee, staff of the... Jeremy Smith here on behalf of the—well, I work for the State Building and Construction Trades Council. One piece of new information and I'll be done.

  • Jeremy Smith

    Person

    The 14 general presidents of all of the unions that you heard from in here and North America's building trades unions, our D.C. based national arm, are also in opposition to AB 130 and request that it be pulled not only from this hearing, but from consideration on the floor. Just wanted to add that to everybody—so everybody knew that.

  • Jeremy Smith

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    All right, thank you very much to all of the members of the public that took time to come here to Sacramento and share thoughts with all of us. Before we conclude our hearing, we do have, I think, a few final questions and comments. So, Assemblymember Ortega.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    Thank you and I apologize for being late. I had other committees earlier this morning and that I had to present bills on and like many of my other colleagues, I was not made aware of this language in AB 130 until it was in print, late yesterday.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    So, I'm not going to repeat a lot of the comments or the questions that were already made by my colleagues in expressing serious, serious concerns about what's been laid in this trailer bill. I will make two comments and then ask one question.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    The first comment is, earlier I heard a worker say that, you know, this, this trailer bill language will set the ceiling at $24 an hour. It's actually going to set the ceiling at $18 an hour. I don't know a person in the State of California who can purchase a home with $18 an hour.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    Secondly, this trailer bill language is going to hurt the people who are building these homes. As I stated earlier, making less in a time when we're trying to address an affordability crisis for people who are building the housing that we desperately need is a real concern.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    You know, and I've been thinking a lot about a former Governor, Pete Wilson, especially during these times where we're seeing immigration raids across the state and the rhetoric that he used.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    But I never thought that I would be thinking about him again this year when it comes to prevailing wage because he was the last person who tried to do something like this.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    So, I want to ask the Committee, or the consultants, a question. Earlier in the Committee, and forgive me if I get this wrong, but in AB 130, there's language in there that references a different labor code that says as such, it has no effect on workers who currently make the prevailing wage in other sectors or even on projects where it is required.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    So, currently, that means for collective bargaining agreements that are currently in place, this would not go backwards or do anything looking at those currently. So, what happens to the future collective bargaining agreements?

  • Genevieve Morales

    Person

    Genevieve Morales Assembly Budget Committee. It is my understanding that that language in 1770.1 is to protect current and future, future workers. And we will get clarification to make sure that is the case. But that is my understanding.

  • Liz Ortega

    Legislator

    So, yeah, I would like the clarification because I'm really concerned about the future of collective bargaining agreements in this state.

  • Jesse Gabriel

    Legislator

    All right, with that, thank you everybody who joined us for the thoughtful conversation. And with that, this hearing is adjourned.

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