Assembly Floor
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Morning, California. The assembly is now in session. Assembly member Solace notices the absence of a quorum. Solace. Sergeant at arms will prepare the chamber and bring in the absent members. Clerk will call the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We ask our guests and visitors in the rear of the chamber and in the gallery to please stand for today's prayer.
- Patti Oshita
Person
Please join me in a moment of reflection. How can I be happy? This is a wonderful wonderment. True teachers in genuine spiritual traditions of humanity, all try to teach us that our happiness begins when we are able to transcend our self centered minds. We feel contentment when we feel one with the world around us.
- Patti Oshita
Person
It is the contentment and fulfillment of a parent holding close to their child. Where does the parent's life end and the child's life begin? The oneness they feel is their happiness. When we feel we are truly one, happiness and contentment naturally emerge. 2,400 years ago, the Taoist philosopher, Zhuang Zhou, shared his lesson in a humorously profound poem.
- Patti Oshita
Person
He wrote, when the shoe fits, the foot is forgotten. When the belt fits, the belly is forgotten. When the mind is right, for and against are forgotten. Zhuang Zhou is saying that true contentment is found in the comfort of being one, like the shoe and the foot, or the belt and the belly, when they fit, they are not separate. Zhuang Zhou ends with the real lesson, when the mind is right, for and against, me against you are forgotten.
- Patti Oshita
Person
The Persian spiritual poet Rumi and Zhuang Zhou would say, beyond right and wrong, beyond inside and outside, beyond for and against, there's a place where we are one with all humanity. When our minds are right, we feel the contentment and happiness of a parent holding their child. Let us try to live with kindness and gratitude beyond words.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We ask our guests and visitors in the rear of the chamber and in the gallery to please excuse me, to remain standing and join us in the flag salute. Assemblymember Lackey will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
You may be seated. To our guests and visitors today, state law prohibits persons in the chamber from interfering with legislative proceedings or disrupting the orderly conduct of official business. Persons disrupting legislative proceedings are subject to removal, arrest, or other appropriate legal remedies. Reading of the previous day's journal.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly Chamber Sacramento, Thursday, 05/07/2026. The assembly met at 9am. The honorable Josh Lowenthal, Speaker Pro Temporee of the assembly presiding.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Authority leader, Aguir Curry moves, And Miss Sanchez seconds that the reading of the previous state's journal be dispensed with. Presentations and petitions, there are none. Introduction and reference of bills will be deferred. Courts and committees will be deemed read and amendments deemed adopted.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Messages from the Governor, there are none. Messages from the Senate, there are none.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Moving on to motions and resolutions, the absences of the day are as follows. For legislative business, Assembly member Celeste Rodriguez, for family illness, Assembly member Quirk Silva. Members, a very important announcement and reminder to before we begin today, we can adjourn at a decent hour today if you are at your desk and present to vote on bills. Your item is a support measure.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Okay. Madam majority leader, you are recognized for your procedural motion.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Good morning, Mister speaker. At the request of the author, please move file item five, AB 1566 Jackson to the inactive file.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
At the request of Assembly member Flora, please remove file item 74, SCR177, Weber PIerson, from the consent calendar.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will note. Okay. On to business on the daily file. Let's do this.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Concurrence file item number one, we're gonna pass and retain reconsideration.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File items two through four, all items shall be continued. Brings us to the assembly third reading file. File items five through 59, we've already dispensed with file item five. We're gonna pass temporarily on file item six. We're gonna pass temporarily on file item seven.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
File item number eight is AB 2257 by Assembly member Hart. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2257 by Assemblymember Hart an act regarding corrections.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. It's a pleasure to start the day. I rise to present Assembly bill 2257, my bill to advance county jail accountability. Before coming to the legislature, I served as a county supervisor. In this role, I became intimately aware of the challenges facing California's county jails.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
While boards of supervisors and sheriffs have shared government's responsibilities over county jails, boards of supervisors have too few tools to address issues in jails. My amended bill is a modest measure to give boards of supervisors a policy lever to address jail issues. The bill provides board of supervisors with confirmation authority over the sheriff's jail administrator under the direction and supervisor of the sheriff.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
The jail administrator, once confirmed to serve a three year term, would be the executive officer of the county jail system, supervising the staff and overseeing the custody of the incarcerated population. The bill includes provisions allowing sheriffs to appoint acting jail administrators when a vacancy occurs to ensure continuity of leadership.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
This change is permissive and does not require any counties to use it. For the counties that choose to use it, AB 2257 creates incentives for sheriffs to work collaboratively with boards of supervisors to improve jail outcomes for the safety of our communities and the welfare of the incarcerated. I've worked with law enforcement leaders and local government partners to refine this bill and will continue to work with the opposition to improve the bill should it leave the floor today.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
You. Assembly member Hart. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Members, please report to the floor. Please report to the floor. Assemblymember Hart has moved the call. File item number nine is AB 2529 by Assemblymember Johnson. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2529 by Assemblymember Johnson an act related to civil procedure.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Assemblymember Johnson, just a moment. Thank you, members. Let's give our respectful attention to the authors. Thank you so much. If you need to speak, keep the volume low.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise to present AB 2529. Very simply requires that individuals who file a claim against a public agency attest that the information
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Members. Excuse me. Members? Thank you. Miss Johnson may continue.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Very simply, it requires that if individuals who file a claim against public agencies attest that the information and claim is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. I want to thank the Judiciary Committee and the labor stakeholders for conversations, to work and come out with a great compromise. It is received unanimous by Patterson's support and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Johnson. All debate having ceased, Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll tally of votes, ayes 41, nose two, the measure passes. Final item number 10 is AB 2689 by assembly member Avi Lafarias. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2689 by Assembly member Avi Laffarias an act related to Housing.
- Anamarie Farias
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. I'm pleased to present AB 2689. AB 2689 establishes metrics for affordable housing managers should they choose to transition to higher income tenants out of units intended for low income families. This bill has received strong bipartisan support, and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Avila Farias. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes ayes 49, no zero. The measure passes. File item number 11 is AB 1722 by Assemblymember Hadwick. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1722 by Assemblymember Hadwick and others, an act related to fish and wildlife.
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill is a support support bill. Thank you. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Hadwick, all debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally votes. Ayes 51, no zero. The measure passes. We're gonna pass temporarily on file item 12.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
We're gonna pass temporarily on file item 13, temporarily. We are going to take up file item number 14. That is AB 2071 by Assemblymember Hoover. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2071 by Assemblymember Hoover and others, and after the pupil instruction.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Mister speaker and members, AB 2071 requires Department of Education to develop a plan to expand digital wellness instruction in our public schools. With the right skills, students are empowered to navigate digital spaces with confidence and discernment. We took floor amendments to correct the artificial intelligence definition to align with the existing definition in the code. Bill has no opposition. Respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Assemblymember Hoover, all debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally votes. Aye 54. No 0. The measure passes.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1976 by Assemblymember Wicks. an act relating to Streets and Highways.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. There are approximately one thousand to twelve hundred pedestrian deaths per year, and there's been a fifty percent increase in deaths since 2014. We need to think about how to make it easier to get improvements and safety for our local streets and roads to make sure that our cyclists and pedestrians are in fact safe.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
With this in mind, I've introduced and hope to get your vote on AB 1976, which would streamline the process so that more pedestrian and bicycle projects can be developed and implemented to improve accessibility and safety in our local communities. This is to get to yes more quickly on these types of critical infrastructure projects.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Wicks. All debate having ceased, Clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally votes. Aye 42, no 17, the measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item 16 is AB 2012 by Assemblymember Hoover. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2012 by Assemblymember Hoover and others in ambulating the vehicles.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Members, AB 2012 simply clarifies that a permit is not required to move a manufactured home if the applicant has obtained an annual permit. California's housing crisis requires creative solutions. This will help increase affordability and availability of factory built housing and reduce cost for Californians. I respectfully ask for an I
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
vote. Thank you, Assemblymember Hoover. I'll debate having seized clerk open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll tally to vote size fifty seven zero zero. The measure passes. File item 17 is AB 2139 by Assemblymember Garcia. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2139 by Assemblymember Garcia and act reagarding surplus land.
- Robert Garcia
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Members, I rise to present AB 2139, a bipartisan bill that proposes a targeted amendment to the surplus land act, creating a practical pathway needed to bring a professional soccer team to the Inland Empire. The Inland Empire is one of the fastest growing regions in California, and notably, the largest metropolitan area in the nation without a major professional sports team.
- Robert Garcia
Legislator
This proposal represents a significant opportunity for economic development, regional identity, and community investment, not just for the Inland Empire, but for the entire state of California. I respectfully ask for your aye vote for the IE.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Garcia. Debate having ceased clerk who opened the role. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. Aye 58, No 1. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item 18 is AB 1548 by Assemblymember Pellerin. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1548 by Assemblymember Pellerin and others, an act relating to Conservation.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker and colleagues. AB 1548 establishes the Monterey Bay Area Stewardship Authority between the counties of Monterey, San Benito, and Santa Cruz to support and enhance long term stewardship of natural and working lands and strengthen regional climate and water resilience.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
The authority will be governed by a nine member board made up of six elected officials from across the three counties and three public members selected for their professional expertise in areas such as working with Native American tribes, ecological restoration, supporting farming and ranching, and wildlife movement corridor protection. The governing body will be responsible for making all revenue related decisions. This authority closely resembles the San Francisco Bay Area Restoration Authority created in 2006.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
The Monterey Bay Area Stewardship Authority created under this bill will bring the region together to attract new resources, strengthen coordination, and support long term stewardship of the lands and waters that sustain local communities and the Central Coast economy. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Pellerin. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item 19 is AB 1707 by Assemblymember Davies. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1707 by Assemblymember Davies an act regarding Employment.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. AB 1707 will finally allow our electricians to do their license certification and renewal online instead of current snail mail protocol. This is a support support. I ask for an aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Davies. All debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally votes, ayes -sixteen, no zero. The measure passes. Gonna pass temporarily on file item 20, pass temporarily on 21, pass temporarily on 22, pass temporarily on 23.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
File item 24. Excuse me, Senator. It's AB 2105 by assembly member Wicks. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2015 by Assembly member Wicks an act regarding transportation.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. This bill is about Google Maps, Apple Maps, Waze. These apps which we all use every day have really altered traffic flow, and it sends traffic down local streets often that are not equipped to handle the high volume of traffic.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
So, basically, this bill is calling for for Caltrans to do a study on the impacts of these third party Navigation Apps that we're so reliant on now because we wanna keep our local streets safe, make sure they're safe for pedestrians, cyclists, etcetera, and ensure that our traffic is going where it's supposed to be. With that, respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Wicks. All debate having ceased, Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote? All members vote who desire to vote?
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. Aye 44 and no 14. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item 25 is AB 2051, also by Assemblymember Wicks. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2051 by Assembly member Wicks and others, an act related to public resources.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
Thank you very much, Mister speaker. Members, AB 2051 convenes a working group to develop a coastal resiliency permitting road map to recommend reforms that could improve permit, issuance timelines, align agency mitigation requirements, accelerate permitting for projects that increase coastal resiliency, and assess how to recruit and retain regulatory permitting staff. And with that, respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Wicks. I'll debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. ayes 46, no six, the measure passes. File item 26 is AB 2074 by Assembly member Haney. This is a 54 vote bill. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2074 by Assembly member Haney, an act related to land use and making an appropriation therefore.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. I know we all agree that we have to build a lot more housing in our state. We are millions of units short and our all of our, residents and constituents are struggling with housing affordability. So let's build these units where we can get the most bang for the buck, where they're desperately needed, and where they make sense. And in our state, one of those places is very clearly in our transit rich downtown city centers.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
Those are places where we can build up, where we already have the infrastructure, we have the transit. And also by bringing more residents downtown, we can support our small businesses, we can support the thriving city centers that our state needs. This is a win win. It's also a bill that is sponsored by California, YIMBY, and the state building trades. Dogs and cats lying together in support of building more housing.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
I will create a streamlined process for those projects to get done with strong labor standards and also create a Cal HFA backed loan fund to be able to support the financing that these projects need. It's had very broad support, and it will help us meet our housing goals.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
I've also committed to take amendments from two of the cities who have put those forward in the Senate, technical amendments, and we're gonna continue to work with folks to make sure that we get get this right and that we provide opportunities to build more housing and build more housing downtown faster. Colleagues, respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Haney. Assemblymember Patterson, you are recognized.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
Great. Thank you, mister speaker. I rise in support of this measure. Housing ought to be, intensified the density around our urban core, around our downtowns. We should, while Placer County has been continuously one of the fastest growing counties in the state, we know that that creates additional urban sprawl, which increases VMTs, which increases pollution, thingless things like that.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
We should be doing everything we can to intensify the density in the downtown urban core where the infrastructure exists and also where there's transit. And so with that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Patterson. Assemblymember Boerner, you are recognized.
- Tasha Boerner
Legislator
Yes. I rise in support of AB 2074. And I wanna thank the author for agreeing to for committing to taking the tech technical amendments from mayor Gloria. I think it's important that our individual downtowns have the ability to balance high rises while also tailoring the development to their local needs. And with that, I'm happy to support this measure.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Berner. Seeing and hearing no further debate, Assemblymember Haney, do you wish to close?
- Matt Haney
Legislator
Thank you. Yes. And to reiterate, this bill only applies to seven cities. Those are our largest cities where there's strong support for this bill, and other cities will have the opportunity to opt into the bill if they want. And, like you've heard, we've had strong bipartisan support and respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Haney. All debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll. Tally votes, aye 55, no 5, the measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Okay. File item 27 is AB 2129 by Assemblymember Flora. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2129 by Assemblymember Flora, ana ct relating the State Employees.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. Colleagues representing AB 2129 approves compensation for Cal Fire Firefighters. I respectfully ask for aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember for all debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes, aye 57, no 1. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We're gonna pass temporarily on file item 28, pass temporarily on file item 29. File item 30 is AB 2279 by Assemblymember Gibson.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2279 by Assemblymember Gibson an act related to Communications.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Assemblymember Gibson, just a moment. Thank you, members. Assemblymember Gibson, you are recognized.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
Thank you very much, Mister speaker. Assembly bill 2279, received support. Respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Gibson. All debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally votes, aye 16, no 0. The measure passes.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2282 by Assemblymember Alanis and others in activating the health facilities.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. AB 2282 would allow Del Puerto Health Care District to provide emergency health care to rural communities in the city of Paterson surrounding areas. Right now, thousands of my constituents must travel around 20 miles to reach the nearest full service hospital or trauma center, which has created significant barriers to accessing health care. As we all know, when there's a medical emergency, every second counts.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
AB 22 is a temporary solution that would allow patients to be treated for emergencies until a permanent hospital is constructed.
- Juan Alanis
Legislator
This bill is sponsored by Del Puerto Health District, and it received unanimous by bipartisan support. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Alaniz. I'll debate having ceased clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally votes, aye 64, no 0. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We're gonna pass temporarily on file item 32. File item 33 is AB 2316 by Assemblymember Hoover. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2316 by Assemblymember Hoover, an act relating to School Facilities.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. Members AB 2316 ensures charter public schools have access to the same financial hardship relief in the state school facilities program as traditional public schools. The bills receive unanimous bipartisan support. I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Hoover. All debate having ceased, Clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. Aye 59, no 0. The measure passes.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2337 by Assemblymember Lackey and act related to theft.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. AB 2337 will be what I'm characterizing as the lemon count pound cake bill. And for those of you who have access to YouTube might wanna check out the satirical depiction of what I'm talking about. Because what it will do is it will add theft by a peace officer under color of authority to the list of activities that constitute serious misconduct. I ask for your support.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Lackey. Assemblymember Brian, you are recognized.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
Absolutely. I rise, in support of this measure, and I have a question for the author. Entitling
- Isaac Bryan
Legislator
the lemon pound cake bill, are you by chance referencing a a Palmdale legend, rapper Afro Man, whose house was raided by law enforcement officers, and they stole his money and stared at the pound cake on his counter? If so, I'd like to join you in the second house as a co author and respectfully, yes, for Nivelle.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
My mic is okay. It's back on. You've hit the nail right on the head. So thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Mister Lackey, do you wish to close on the measure? All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll and tally the votes. Aye 68, no 0. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item 35 is AB 2374 by Assemblymember Fong. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2374 by Assemblymember Fong and others, an act relating the Post Secondary Education.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. Members, assembly bill 2374 establishes a state level designation for Asian American and Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander serving institutions. Minority serving institutions were established by the Federal Government to address in the educational inequity. In order to receive a state level designation under this bill, the college must present a plan and develop a plan with proposals and strategies to support student retention and completion. In 2024, SB 1348 by Senator Bradford established a state level block serving institution designation.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Assembly bill 2374 is modeled after SB 1348, and will recognize public and private higher education institutions that show effort and commitment to helping Asian American Native Hawaiian Pacific students succeed. AB 2374 is a companion to SB 1255 by Senator Eloise Reyes, which establishes a state level Hispanic serving institution designation. Assembly Bill 2374 is the AAPI Legislative Caucus Priority. That's strictly asked for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Fong. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. Aye 47, no 14, the measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item 36, that's AB 2464 by Assemblymember Wicks. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2464 by Assembly member Wicks and act related to energy.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker members. This is a support support bill and has received no opposition. Respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Wicks. All debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close roll, tally the votes, I 67, no zero. The measure passes. File item 37 is AB 2537 by Assemblymember Chen. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2537 by Assemblymember Chen and others in act related to cannabis.
- Phillip Chen
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. This bill is support support. I respectfully ask for I vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Chen. I'll debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll tally votes. I 62, no zero. The measure passes. File line in 38 is AB 2562 by Assembly member Dixon.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2562 by Assembly member Dixon, an act relating to Public Health.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. Good morning, colleagues. I rise today to present AB 2562. It's a support bill would require licensed alcohol and drug treatment facilities and certified recovery programs to create and implement a suicide prevention plan. This is an important measure that will bring a new level of care to individuals in treatment settings.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
And it passed through Assembly Health, which I'm grateful for, on unanimous consent and received unanimous support in appropriations and has no opposition. I respectfully ask for an aye vote. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Dixon. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally votes. Aye 62, no zero. The measure passes.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2667 by Assemblymember Hadwick and others, and act related to vape products.
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. This bill has enjoyed unanimous support and has no opposition, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Hadwick. All debate having ceased, Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Bless you. Clerk will close the roll, tally votes. aye 62, no zero. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item number 40, that's AB 2727 by Assemblymember Wynne. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2727 by Assemblymember Wynne and others, and act related to corrections.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker members. AB 2727 is going to preserve the integrity of our elderly parole system. I wanna say it again. This bill is to preserve the elderly parole system. I wanna put it out there that I believe in our elderly parole system.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
But currently, the law allows certain offenders to be considered for elderly parole at 50 years old and serving twenty years. Eighty twenty seven twenty seven is going to raise that that threshold to 65 years old with at least twenty five years serve for violent sex offenses. I'm gonna say it again. This bill is to raise the threshold for those individuals that have done violent sex offenses.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
This bill also strengthens the review process by ensuring individuals serving licenses for violent sex offenses are included in a screening process.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
This bill is gonna put guardrails around these individuals that qualify for elderly parole to ensure that the screening is going to say that they can be released out in the community and not commit another sexual violent offense. As members of this body, we have to do what we can to protect children. And when I talk about violent sex offenders, I'm talking about men, older men who take eight year old little girls and little boys and violently raped them, used objects and penetrated them.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
These individuals need extra screenings. There needs to be guardrails around this so that we ensure we protect the public's safety.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
These victims didn't ask to serve a life sentence. These victims in twenty years, they will have this trauma. This will be a life sentence for them with what they went through. 2727 will protect others that might go through this exact same trauma. I asked you all as you take a look at this bill and you take a look at your district, I guarantee you there have been individuals in your district that qualify for elderly parole and have done these offenses.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
Would you want them out there in the community with your children, your grandchildren, your nieces, your nephew, not just children but your wives, your daughters, anybody. Would you want to be in a room with an individual who violently, sexually raped an individual, would you? AB 2727 is not about getting rid of the elderly parole system. It is not about that. It is about preserving the integrity of our elderly parole system.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Wynne. Assembly member Tong Yipa, you are recognized.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. And I rise in support of this bill. We have to come to reality here That in the state of California, the definition elderly is 50 years old. 50 years old is considered elderly right now in the state of California. And you sit and you think about that because I don't think 50 years old should be considered elderly.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
When you think that the governor, I believe is 58 years old, I think he is more than capable as an older individual to function in society. I would not consider that 50. We are here today because monsters like David Funkstead, who molested seven people, seven children in between the ages of three years old and seven years old qualified to be released from prison after being sentenced to life in prison because of the laws here in California.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
Gregory Vogelslang molested six children and qualified for early release because of the laws here in California. He was sentenced to over three hundred years in prison.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
For context, The United States is 250 years old and was gonna be on our streets. Not only were they gonna be on our streets, both of them applied to live in the city of Fresno. This is personal to me because David Funkston and Gregory Vogelslang targeted the community of North Highlands. I lived in North Highlands. I grew up in North Highlands.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
I know some of the families that were molested by these individuals. They chose that community because it was poor, it was minority, and it was an easy one to target because they believed that the police officers didn't care about the black, brown, and immigrant families that were in those areas. They used the laws to let monsters back onto our streets.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
And I believe the author today is asking you to make a declaration that the children of California come first before the criminals, and we should protect them. When the victims of these families were told that these monsters will never get out of prison, and then to hear that they were because elderly in the state of California is considered 50 years old in our prison system, The only declaration that we were making was the only life sentences being served were the victims.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
That three year old who was molested, that seven years old, that seven year old that was molested, the 11 year old that was molested, the people that I know that were molested, only they would have a life sentence. But individuals like David Funksen to be allowed out onto our streets again should never happen. For those reasons, I respectfully ask that you make that declaration that child predators deserve to stay in prison, and that we can make our laws better in this state. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Tong Yipa. Assemblymember Patterson, you are recognized.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
Well, thank you, mister speaker. Yeah. I look forward to supporting this measure today. Just wanted to point out and thank Placer County District Attorney Morgan Geyer for saving the entire state from this monster, who because of our laws that passed in this building and signed into law by a governor, allowed a creep to get out of prison early. And we all recognize he had no business being let out.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
So so this individual had committed a lot of crimes in the past and didn't think that needed a charge for those crimes because he had life sentences. But fortunately, when this person was released, the Placer County District Attorney's Office and law enforcement in and around Placer County acted swiftly, went and rearrested him for his crimes in the nineties.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
And because of law enforcement in Placer County and district attorney Morton Geier, he's back in prison and not a threat to society right now, and I hope justice comes to him swiftly. With that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Patterson. Assembly member Lackey, you are recognized.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
Yeah. I'm not gonna belabor at this point. I'm very, very appreciative of the author from Sacramento who has addressed this issue. I also had legislation that I went through that addressed this very problem
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
because we we know that it's absurd to consider somebody elderly at 50. I don't think that's really the argument, but let me just Kinda give you an example of one of the people that were eligible under this law. He indicated he still had the the drives to allow him to engage in his predatory behavior, but he said he'd he figured out a new remedy. He would splash cold water in his face to keep that drive under control. Is there anybody in here that believes that?
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
Parole board did. And I'm telling you, we we've got to do better than this, folks. This is something that is egregious, and I think we all agree on that. So let's bring some reason to this, and this bill helps remedy that. And these young people or even if you're not young, you're just anybody that's being raped by these individuals.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Lackey. Assemblymember Castillo, you are recognized.
- Leticia Castillo
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I'm gonna let you know I'm 55. So, you know, this makes no sense. But I'm gonna tell you some stories about my background and my experience in working with individuals on both sides of this, from the perpetrators and the victims. I used to work with the sexual offenders.
- Leticia Castillo
Legislator
And I can tell you one thing is that there is no rehabilitation for them. Once those, tendencies are there, they do not go away. And I worked with the ones where you had to put the lie detector test on them to see where they were at at different points through treatment after the
- Leticia Castillo
Legislator
So, different points through treatment after the fact. And working with victims, child victims, I'm also a trauma therapist. And I've gone through all the stages of trauma with a lot of children. Time it takes for them to get through and process what happened to them. You wouldn't even be able to function if you knew that.
- Leticia Castillo
Legislator
For me as a therapist, I know how to leave that stuff at the door and not take it with me. But I will tell you, I've heard some of the worst stuff that you can imagine done to kids. And I walked through all the stages for them to get better. So I do thank the author for this, and I will be supporting, and I hope everyone else does as well. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Castillo. Assemblymember Hoover, you are recognized.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Rise in strong support of AB 2727. I wanna thank the author for all of her work on this critically important piece of legislation, and I I cannot stress enough how important this bill is to my district and my community. A few months ago, it was announced that sexual predator David Funston, of North Highlands in my district would be released back into the community. And to really put in context, what that means, permission to read, mister speaker?
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
So mister Funston, was, as was mentioned, I think, by a previous speaker, sentenced to twenty years in prison, three consecutive, sentences of twenty five years to life. At his sentencing, the judge who oversaw the case called him the monster that parents fear the most, and said that there is no man on the face of this earth who deserves this sentence more than David Funston.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Yet because of the policies that this bill is seeking to correct, he was able to lure eight victims in my district, all between the ages of three and seven years old to his car using candy and toys. He kidnapped, he abused, and molested these children before callously dumping them on the side of the road. This was the individual that was announced to be now eligible and being released back into my community or a nearby community.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
And as was mentioned by my colleague from Placer County, it was only because of the work of the Placer County's District Attorney's Office that he is behind bars today. And that is only because he committed another crime in 1999 that he was not prosecuted for, that, charges were able to be brought against him. New charges were be able to be brought against him. Just a few weeks later, another predator from my community, Gregory Vogelsang, was announced to be eligible for release under the elderly parole program.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
And it was only because we spoke up, our community spoke up against that release that the parole board decided to hold off on that decision for another six months.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
But the reality is is that we cannot keep playing whack a mole with these sexual predators. We actually have to change the long term policy in California to make sure that no one is released that is going to continue to victimize children in our communities. And so with that, again, just wanna thank the author for incredible work, and would strongly urge, and I vote on this important bill.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Hoover. Assemblymember Soria, you are recognized.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. I also rise in support of AB 2027. I wanna thank my colleague from Sacramento for her leadership on this issue. I I rise to give a voice to survivors in my community. When I was looking at this bill and what's happening what was happening here in Sacramento, it reminded me of a very tragic story that happened many years ago in the Fresno community.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
It was the monster, Rudolph Acosta, who was sentenced. He's a serial rapist, and he was sentenced to seventy eight years. He violently raped at least nine women, most of them underage in the Fresno Tower District, a place that I called home for a very long time. And so I rise today because it is these types of stories that really call for us to reflect on what gaps exist in our current law. And this law currently is failing our survivors.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
We must do better. We must do better so that survivors in our community are having to relieve the trauma that every single time comes up when these monsters are up for parole. Because that's what my community survivors are telling me. Every single time these monsters are up for parole, they're having to relive the trauma that they've been living with for many decades. And so today, I rise in strong support of 2020 set of AB 2027.
- Esmeralda Soria
Legislator
This is a start. I know that there's other gaps in the law that are not protecting, these survivors. And so today, strong, I rise in strong support of AB 2727.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Soria. Assemblymember Wilson, you are recognized.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise in support of AB 2727, and I thank my colleague, from Sacramento for introducing this bill. You know, I have a deep sense of responsibility, I feel, to address the imbalances in our criminal justice system, and particularly around reform and ensuring that our system is one of rehabilitation. The majority of people who enter our prison system will be released.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And we want those people that are released to be to have a sense of wholeness while they're in prison, to rehabilitate.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
So when they come into our communities, back into our communities, they're able to be contributing members. At the same time, our system needs to be one of accountability and one where we lift up the voices of those victims and make sure that our criminal justice system doesn't harm them or continuing harm in the community. And I think that this particular bill strikes the right balance.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
When I look at the members of this floor who are over 50, and how spry they are and and abled, I think it needs to be older age. When I think of where I'm approaching in my own Maslow life, I think the age is too low.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And so I think that my colleague has done an exemplary job of balancing both of those values of, yes, we need to reform our system to one of rehabilitation, but we also need to ensure that we hold folks accountable, to the harm that they have done to victims and the harm they could continue to do in our community. So I applaud the member for her efforts and ask for an aye vote on AB 2727.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Wilson. Seeing and hearing no further debate, Assembly member Wynne, do you wish to close?
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I wanna thank all the members that got up to to speak on this bill, AB 2727. You know, the elderly pro program is a really good program. I'm very supportive of the elderly program, the elderly parole program. As legislators, we get to vote on policies and legislation, and we hope that it would make positive changes in our community.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
The best part is that as legislators, we get to come back and we get to fix things to make it fit our community because things change over time. And that's what this is. This is preserving the integrity of our elderly parole program, but also ensuring that those that are serving a life sentence for a violent sexual offense have more eyes on it before they are rereleased out into the community.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
I wanna thank the members for all that stood up and shared stories because I know there are more in your districts. And we have to do our part in protecting our children and protecting our community.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
I believe AB 2727 is that right balance, does preserve the elderly pro program, but at the same time also protecting our children and our community. With that, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Wynne. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally votes, I 66, no zero. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally votes, aye 66, no zero. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Okay. We're gonna go back in file and we are going to take up file item number 23.
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Person
Assembly bill 1958 by Assemblymember Kalra, an act relating to criminal procedure.
- Ash Kalra
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. AB 1958 makes several clarifying changes to the procedures for establishing a disparity claim under the California Racial Justice Act to streamline litigation and provide consistent guidance to the courts.
- Ash Kalra
Legislator
It does so by making it clear there are multiple ways to establish a disparity claim, yet the burden on that remains on the defendant, and that to refute a disparity claim, the courts must evaluate evidence showing the disparities are explained by new rates, neutral factors by only a preponderance of the evidence, the lowest legal standard of proof in the criminal courts.
- Ash Kalra
Legislator
The bill also clarifies evidence disclosure requirements, and altogether these changes continue to build upon the legislature's work to address racial discrimination and bias in the criminal legal system and make it so the RGA can be implemented as intended.
- Ash Kalra
Legislator
Lastly, to address concerns raised by the DISC attorneys association, I'm I'm committed to taking amendments to the Senate that will revert the reference to similar conduct in penal code 70 74584 back to existing law and define the existing reference to similar conduct under 83.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Kalra. I'll debate having cease clerk open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Majority leader moves the call. Next by mister Berman, we'll take up file item 32. This is AB 2313. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2313 by Assembly member Berman and others, now relating to energy.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. AB 2313 would give customers with a planned service line replacement the option to instead discontinue their gas service and use a portion of those funds to electrify their home. In addition, this bill is written to guarantee that all rate payers save money regardless of their participation in the program and reduce long term costs by avoiding additional investments and long term cost recovery for the gas system.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
I've also worked with California's largest publicly owned or, investor owned utility to add safety safeguards to make sure that nothing in this bill would create safety issues. AB 2313 will provide long term savings for all rate payers as California manages our transition away from fossil fuels.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
It will also promote public health and protect the environment. I appreciate all the conversations that I've had with with practically all my colleagues on the floor. Not quite all my colleagues on the floor. I've heard a lot of concerns about it.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
I wanna recognize also, you know, that as we move towards accomplishing our our climate change goals, our carbon neutrality goals, We also need to make sure that, no workers are negatively impacted by that, and that's a a a bigger effort that I'm committed to to, you know, being a a supporting player in.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Berman. Seeing no other members wishing to be recognized on the measure, the clerk will open the roll. All those vote who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote. Clerk will strike the roll.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
The members, they gotta see those vices. Assembly member Alvarez, you may speak on the measure.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you, mister speaker. I I appreciate that. There was a crowd of folks around here, so my microphone was not identifiable. I appreciate that.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
I I rise with, concerns about this bill, that, the intent is certainly, I believe, the right one. You know, this bill, as the author has presented and spoken to, is about a transition into, where we need to be to achieve our climate goals, which I think is, absolutely what we need to be doing. However, I think we can all recognize that we do not have an actual transition plan that we can point to as to how we're going to accomplish that.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And so, his goal, which I I think i, the right one is how do you get to the transition from, into electric with more sources of of energy which are cleaner. And, and so I appreciate that.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
However, I I remain concerned as someone who represents many, many, many communities, who have, as an example, not benefited from the investments, millions and millions of dollars that have been made in California to allow individuals to electrify their homes, because I represent communities that are older. I represent communities that aren't as wealthy.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And what the data has shown is that the wealthy communities are the ones that have invest that have gained from the benefits that have been put out by the state of California to allow them to electrify. And I think that is in inequitable way of our climate policy. And so, I have that concern with this bill.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
So I'd like to, ask the author. I know he has spoken to this and in Section three, a three of of his bill he, permission to read mister speaker.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
A mechanism to ensure that customers transitioning to electrical service bear equitable share of unrecovered gas infrastructure costs attributable to the departure so that customers remaining on the gas distribution system are held indifferent to their departure. I'd like to ask the author in his closing to please address this issue.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
I think this language is not sufficient in order to ensure that individuals who are left behind in this transition, because unfortunately that is happening, are not left holding the bag and the burden of the cost of those who have traditionally been wealthier, communities and individuals who have transitioned to pay for that incentive that is this bill is seeking to accomplish. So I'd like him to please address that issue as currently, I think, is not fully addressed in the bill.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
And also just the concern of equity and participation of the program.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Again, we cannot have, as data has shown with car rebates, and electrifying cars that wealthy ZIP codes are the ones who benefit from these funds that are taxpayer funds so that wealthy individuals can transition from their gas powered vehicles to their electric vehicles. That cannot be the same outcome with this program. And lastly, I'll end with this. We've seen what net energy metering has done with the cost shift.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
That's again something I don't wanna see occur as a result of this bill, and I'd like to hear what the author has to say about those issues.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Alvarez. And doctor Sharp Collins, you're recognized on the measure.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I too, have some concerns with this bill, and I've shared some of these concerns with with with the author as well. We've had some really in-depth conversations in regards to this. And so when when we are talking about the overall concerns, I do know that you are taking meaningful steps to narrow the bill down to address that. And my concern is similar to my colleague also from from San Diego.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
It it is pertaining to the cost sharing itself. So while I recognize that this program itself is something that's voluntary, but the reality is that the cost are to me, it's it's not. So the truth is the monetary incentive proposed in this bill may not be enough to cover the full necessary cost for our Californians to actually transition their home to fully electric. And so the other the other issue that I have with this is that we tend to move policy.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
And then as we move policy, we don't give it a chance for the data to, you know, to actually come back.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
So when we're looking at the legislation for the from the CPU that was passed with Senate Bill 1221, that study, like, the study there was there to obviously study to study the cost, safety, and the customer impacts for similar pilot programs, but the but that private program results is still underway. So we do not have the feedback from that. So I was wondering too, also, in your closing, could you please speak to that in regards to how this is going to work?
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
Meaning, are we now taking people to a different direction based on something that was actually already voted on and then actually implemented that we don't have the data back for that? But also the other question is whether the proposal ensures that the transition is rooted in data and lowering costs rather than shipping them and adding to the affordability crisis space and meaning of our constituents.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
So if you don't mind addressing that as well. But thank you for allowing me to address the concerns from San Diego as well.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Alright. Thank you, doctor Sharp Collins. Now seeing no other members wishing to speak on the measure, mister Berman, you may close.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
Yeah. Thank you, mister speaker. And I really, really, really wanna thank, my colleagues from San Diego for for their very thoughtful and in-depth engagement on this bill over the past couple of days or maybe weeks. They all blur together. I wanna start by addressing some of the issues around cost shift.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
As as my colleague from San Diego noted, we have a section in here that we added in utilities and energy, working with the committee staff at utilities and energy, to to write in the bill that there will be no cost shift. And if there is a cost shift, then the program will not happen. And I fully appreciate that that language is not specific enough. I have a meeting with the PUC next week to talk specifically about that section.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
I will continue to work with my colleagues to make sure that the final result is language that everybody is comfortable with, that it guarantees that there will be no cost shift, and that the people left on the system won't be holding the bag for the people who participate in the program.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
So you have my commitment that at the end of the day, that language will be to your satisfaction. And we also have in the link in the bill that residents who live in disadvantaged communities will get a bigger credit to help them make that transition. So the reality is that without this bill, the residents get no help in making the transition.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
And, you know, with the bill, residents will get support to make that transition, and residents who live in disadvantaged communities will get more support in recognition of the fact that that it's harder for you know, they need some more support to be able to electrify their homes. And and that so that's so that's in the bill.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
And and again, if at the end of the day, once the PUC does the analysis, if the math does the math, the program doesn't happen. And and so, you know, there's a possibility that that might happen. We need to do that analysis to make sure that it does work. If it doesn't work, this never sees the light of day. Senate bill, the the the PUC has said, and and I obviously agree, that this bill is complimentary to the Senate bill.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
This this bill does not compete with the Senate bill. The Senate bill had to do with creating neighborhood pilot programs whole neighborhood pilot programs. This bill has to do with individual residences. It's all sort of different tools in the toolbox for California to try to, accomplish our climate change goals, our carbon neutrality goals that were set a long time ago that are gonna take multiple different solutions to accomplish.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
But we need to make sure that in accomplishing those goals, that the people who are left on the system don't suffer.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
So really I I commit to that. Really appreciate the engagement again from my colleagues. Respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Berman. The court will open the roll. All those vote who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. Ayes 41, noes 21. Measure passes. Members, next, we're gonna move back in file to file item number 20. This is our Pro Tem's bill, AB 1709.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly Bill 1709 by Assemblymember Lowenthal and others, and accolading to the business.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker, and thank you members. Thank you for this opportunity to present AB 1709. This bill will create a minimum age of 16 for users to create or maintain accounts only on the social media platforms that rely on using addictive features harmful to children. It also creates an eSafety Commission to oversee implementation and to advise California on online safety moving forward.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
At its core, this bill is based on a simple principle. When companies knowingly design products that exploit children's developmental vulnerabilities for profit, the legislature has a responsibility to step in. I wanna thank by I wanna begin by thanking the bipartisan coalition of joint authors and co authors as well as the parents, the educators, the pediatric experts, the researchers, the advocates, the stakeholders who helped shape this bill. California is far from alone in introducing this policy.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Countries across the world, along with states here in The United States, are moving in the same direction because the evidence has become impossible to ignore.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
The president of the European Commission just announced that the entire European Union is taking on this policy this summer. No other major industry is allowed to intentionally design products that it did children that contribute to mental health harms and then deny responsibility for the consequences. Yet that is exactly what has happened with social media platforms.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
A growing body of research shows that children 16 are uniquely vulnerable to compulsive digital environments because their brains are still developing the skills necessary for impulse control, for emotional regulation, and for long term decision making. We aren't alone in remedying this crisis.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
It's very important to understand that our work here is reinforced by recent court decisions in precedent setting cases in Los Angeles and New Mexico. Juries determined platforms could be held legally responsible for designing products that addict children, that contribute to depression, to anxiety, and to compulsive use. Importantly, the cases were not about speech or online content. They focus on product design features like autoplay, like infinite scroll, like algorithms that are engineered to maximize engagement.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Similar cases filed by school districts across the country right now are being settled.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
The distinction matters because AB 1709 is focused on addictive design features, not protected speech. The bill was carefully amended to address first amendment concerns by targeting the mechanics of these platforms rather than the viewpoints or the content shared on them. And the company's own internal documents make the intent clear. Executives compared engagement systems to slot machines designed to keep users hooked for as long as possible. The science confirms what these companies already know.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Studies consistently link problematic social media use to anxiety, to depression, to poor sleep, to developmental harms. When children spend five, eight, or nine hours a day in these environments, the consequences are not abstract. We see them in our classrooms, our homes, in our communities. Members, the average child in the state of California is spending five hours a day on average on social media.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
When you count weekends and holidays, that means there are millions of children in the state of California that are spending more time on social media than they are in school.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Let's reflect on that. And let's also reflect on the type of oversight that we have of our schools. We require curriculum review. We require credentialed teachers. We are able to participate.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We elect our school Board Members. You know your teachers. You know your administrators. You have back to school night. You are able to see what they're learning all the time.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
And what do you have in social media? What is your recourse? Who do you call? How much review do you have over what's going on in our children's lives? Setting the age based safeguards is not a radical concept.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We already restrict access to gambling, tobacco, alcohol, firearms, pornography, tattoos, driving, voting. Because we recognize that children require additional protections during vulnerable stages of development. Thirty seconds. Social media platforms intentionally engineered around compulsive engagement deserve similar common sense guardrails. This bill also recognizes that current age restrictions have failed.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Asking a child to click a button claiming they are 13 years old is not meaningful age verification. AB 1709 requires reasonable age assurance measures while protecting privacy and prohibiting the use of age verification data for advertising or profiling. From the start, I've tried to approach this policy with humility because I don't think that any of us have all the answers to solve this complex and nuanced problem.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
And that is why I feel the creation of an eSafety Commission is a critical component to this bill. The eSafety Commission will serve as a crucial backdrop to this policy and make the necessary adjustments as we implement AB 1709.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
The eSafety Commission is also necessary for our state to keep pace with technology, which we know evolves faster than the law, faster than we can keep up with it in this chamber. California needs a dedicated body to evaluate emerging harms, to study addictive platform features, assess age assurance technologies, and help policy makers keep pace with rapidly changing environments online. And I also want to address concerns raised by advocates and organizations representing vulnerable communities and young people who rely on online spaces for connection, for support.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. We must acknowledge that there are children in this state that feel better about their online presence than their offline presence.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
That is a reality. I hear those concerns. I appreciate the thoughtful conversations many of you have had with my office. I value the feedback and conversations and remain deeply committed to continuing this dialogue and trying to find reasonable solutions to, to address these concerns. Please continue to engage with me and my staff in having these conversations.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
My door is open to working with you. This bill is not about cutting off young people from the Internet or denying them access to the community. Young people deserve the ability to find support and belonging online, but we should reject the false choice that says children must be must be exposed to addictive and harmful product designs in order to access those benefits. We are not prohibiting children from accessing the social media. We are prohibiting social media from accessing our children.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
California has led the nation before on privacy and consumer protection. We We now have an opportunity to lead again by protecting children online. I respectfully ask for your aye vote on AB 1709.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Lowenthal. Senator Demaio, you're recognized on the measure.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise in support of AB 1709, and I know that that comes as a surprise to some that know that I almost never back bills that add more regulation. I think we have too many regulations in government as it is. But we have to recognize that with new technologies, there are problems that are created, and it requires that government constantly update our protection of the public, including vulnerable communities such as our youth. This is a bipartisan issue.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
And when I voted for this in committee, I actually got some blowback from some of the more conservative elements of the state saying, you know, government's policing what what our lives are. I said, well, hold on a second. Individuals who are not yet 18, there are very valid reasons for government to intervene and make sure that they are protected. When I grew up, and I think as some of you will recall, when we would go to the movies, we'd be asked for an ID.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
And some of us probably were kind of disappointed that we couldn't see the movie that we were excited to see. But you could see the movie with parental supervision supervision. The Internet makes it much more difficult than going to a movie theater. And that's why I think that it's gonna be difficult for us to craft a bill, and I wanna commend my colleague from Long Beach.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
No one has done more in this body on either side of the aisle to struggle with this emerging technologies and try to get it right and try to balance.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
And if, colleagues have or stakeholder groups have concerns about the bill. The member from Long Beach has been absolutely open to working on improvements and will continue to do that. But this is a necessary step. We know the US Congress has not done its job. It would be much easier, particularly in the era of technology that transcends geography of states, if Congress would actually create a national standard that would make the situation a standardized approach, but it hasn't done that.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
And I think part of it is because of the influence of big money in these tech companies. To the tech companies, my message is simple. Get your blank together and solve the problem. If you don't, then we will be forced to protect our kids. But I absolutely believe that with the innovative minds that you have, and I hope you're all listening.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
I know with all of our cell phones, you probably are. You can solve this issue. Parents across the nation are concerned about what's going on online with their kids on your platforms. So do your job as a good steward in our community. Your technologies are powerful.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
I'm sure you can figure it out. We found the leak. I wanna also point out that there are some technologies that are already available. There are various social media platforms that are already age restricted, child appropriate, like YouTube kids. In Australia, they have a number of, interesting models.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
Another compelling reason to make this a ban rather than an opt in, an age verification system, is that remember when you were young, there are some parents that allowed your classmates to do things that your parents didn't allow you to do. How did you feel when you were left out? You felt a little ostracized. By creating a uniform standard, we guard against young kids being put into two different camps. And I'm not judging the parents.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
I'm just simply saying that is a reality of youth. Is this perfect? No. But I know that the author will continue the process when if this bill does get to the Senate and if it gets back here. And Aye, again, challenge industry to work with this legislature to come up with thoughtful, cost effective, and appropriate solutions.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister DeMaio. And Assemblymember Wicks are recognized on the measure.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members, and I wanna thank the member from Long Beach for his tireless leadership on this, and it's an honor to work with you on this bill, and I'm pleased to be a joint author. And I come to this as a mom, and I think many of us are coming to this simply as parents before we are Democrats or Republicans. And it's because our parents are at their wits end trying to keep our children safe in the current world we live in.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
And these products, the entire business model is built on creating addiction. That's how they make money.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
The whole premise of the product is to keep our children on these platforms for as long as humanly possible. And the stats, as mentioned earlier, are incredibly alarming. Teens teens spending three or more hours a day on social media face double the risk of depression and anxiety. Forty six percent of adolescents age 13 to 17 say social media makes them feel worse about their body image. Forty five percent of teens say social media hurts how much they sleep.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
Forty percent say it hurts their productivity. Nearly one third of adolescents use screens until midnight or later, directly impairing their health and, their sleep and their emotional health. And preteens with increasing social media use, scores measurably worse on reading, vocabulary, memory tests, and also social and emotional learning. The data is very, very clear. These products are not safe for our children and they are harming them as they grow.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
I have spent the last eight years pushing, cajoling, forcing these companies to try to make a safer product. Those bills end up in litigation. They end up in lawsuits. Big tech fights that. We've had some wins, but it has been very difficult.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
And if they won't do it, we will require them to do it. They have to take responsibility for their actions. We are talking about our children. And the fact that they are exposed to so many harms is simply unacceptable. All this bill does is says, let's give our kids just a couple more years of being able to be kids.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
Let's give them a couple more years. Let's delay their exposure to depression, and fear of missing out and a reduction of self esteem. Let's let them explore their livelihood as kids before they're thrust into the new world order that we all live in now. I'm so honored to be a part of this bill. This is not just a California thing.
- Buffy Wicks
Legislator
This is happening all over the globe. So let's pass this bill unanimously with bipartisan support and send a message not just to the world, but to the tech industry that they have to keep our children safe. And with that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, Senator Wicks. And, Senator Gallagher, you're recognized on the bill.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Can you hear me now? Thank you, mister speaker, members. I appreciate the author and navigating, you know, what is a it's a very tough policy issue. One that I navigated myself, a few years back with AB 1138. And that that concept, started out of a conversation I had with our former colleague, Jordan Cunningham.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
We both had young children and both saw as they were, you know, growing up and and dealing with the both the benefits and the negative aspects of social media. You know, certainly provided a opportunity to network with friends and share interests and and all of those things, but we also saw a lot of negative side of those things as well. The addictive side of it, you know, had those arguments with our children about, hey, you know, this thing has too much influence over you. Right?
- James Gallagher
Legislator
And the concept ultimately became a parental consent bill that we I started out at 16 years old. If they were under 16, that there should be parental consent to use a social media website. As as as the author knows, there's a lot of headwinds in this place on those things, and we had to navigate a lot to get that through. Ultimately, had to move that age limit down to 13, but we got it passed. We passed it through both houses of of this legislature.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
And unfortunately, it was vetoed by the governor. And that that was a frustrating day because I felt like we had done a lot to work through that. And I I've watched as the author has really pushed on this issue and over many years now. And when this originally was being talked about as maybe an an as an outright ban under 16, I was a little bit I wasn't sure about that.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
But I like where the author has landed, and I like where he has actually really worked with a lot of different stakeholders to get this policy right.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Focusing on the algorithm, you know, setting up this committee. I saw I really feel like this is this is the right way to move forward. And my hope here is is that we're gonna continue to work on this. We are gonna continue to get this through and that this finally we get a policy that will get passed and will get signed and we'll have a law that cuts that right path.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
And so, you know, today I haven't formally come out in support of this policy.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
I am going to support this bill. And I and I would definitely like to be added as a co author when the time is appropriate. And I and I really appreciate the author because I again, I have I have navigated this tough policy, myself in the past. And, I think we all I mean, both it is bipartisan. It's both sides of the aisle.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
We want to try and find the right answer here that protects our kids. And let's and let's be honest, we're on this stuff too much too as adults. My son called me out on that not too long ago. It's true Because we need to get off of this and have a lot more face to face with each other. I think that's a very important thing in in our society right now.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
So I thank the author proud to support this bill today, and ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Gallagher. Some members of Zbur, you're recognized on the measure.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
Yes. Thank you, mister speaker and members. I'm gonna turn this way so I can face the author. So I wanna thank the author, for the way he has handled what is a an important and a very, very difficult and complex bill.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
I have two 17 year old kids who have just gone through the period of time in which, you know, we've been dealing with their engagement with with social media and obviously understand completely what the the harm the potential harm that's out there and the and the need to do something to protect our kids.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
This ultimately is about protecting our kids. With that said, obviously, there's also issues with respect to how we do that. And I know I wanna thank the Chair of the LGBTQ caucus and the Chair of the privacy committee who held hearing a special hearing a couple weeks ago, specifically on the issues related to LGBTQ kids.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
And one of the really sad things about that hearing, there was a number of experts that were brought in, and I attended part of it and then watched all of it later is that for LGBTQ kids certain LGBTQ kids, access to social media is a lifeline and a really important one, an important one in the same ways that that the suicide hotline is for some of these kids that our our colleague from Los Angeles talked about yesterday.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
And as, and for the kids that are in that 13 to 16 year old age group and, you know, understand why the limitation occurred last time when this came up, that age group is a particularly important age group that we need to make sure that the benefits of connectivity with peers are retained in in some way.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
The sad thing about the hearing is that what we know is that LGBTQ kids and there's other kids, kids with disabilities, that are isolated, and the addictive and harmful features of these of these platforms are actually more harmful to those kids than they are to some of the other kids, and they're harmful to everyone.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
But the other hand, the other hand is that a lot of these kids, when you look at the data, also feel safer on these online platforms than they often do in their communities. So I, I know that I've had a number of conversations with the author. I know that, he shares the values that, that that, many of us have, about making sure that, kids from vulnerable communities and also it sounded just LGBTQ kids.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
It's kids that are living in rural communities that may be isolated, that have lack of connectivity with kids with disabilities.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
But we need to make sure that I think, you know, what happens and how we define addictive and harmful features is something that really needs some attention, because we need to make sure that when we do that, that we don't eliminate the the the platforms that allow these the real platforms allow these to connect. And that's not just about making sure that the Trevor Project is allowed because most kids in rural California have no idea who the Trevor Project is.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
I mean, they're going on the basic platforms and finding connectivity that way. So we need to make sure that in this 13 to 16 year old age group that we are preserving the ability for these kids to connect. And I know we've had these conversations.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
I don't really know what the answer is, frankly. But I trust the author is focused on that and that and I will tell the folks that are in the LGBTQ community that have expressed concerns about this bill that I have complete confidence that the author shares the values that we have about making sure that these kids are protected. I think a lot of this is gonna be sort of how this, eSafety Commission is captured.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
But I hope what will happen is that we don't have a period of time where the platforms that are important for these kids are banned, and that we have to wait three, four, five years while something happens for these kids to be able to, achieve and maintain the lifelines that they need.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
So with that, I'm gonna be voting for the bill today with the confidence and thanks and gratitude to the author and also to the to our appropriations Chair who I know has taken this issue on.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
Both of you, I think, have done this with really, you know, a sensitivity to the needs of the LGBTQ community, LGBTQ kids that I appreciate and applaud. And it's with because of the confidence that I have in you that I'm gonna be voting for this bill today. So with that, I urge an aye vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Zbur. And Assemblymember Papan, you're recognized on the bill.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
Well, thank you, mister speaker. And, I too stand today with the humility of a parent, and I wanna congratulate, my colleague from Long Beach in the long hours that he's put in on this topic. And I think what concerns me is that we have these negative effects from social media and we really have not had the tools in the toolbox to deal with it. We have a shortage of mental health provide mental health care providers. Have a shortage of even training mental health care providers.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
We have a lack of insurance coverage for the extent of which it might take to deal with the negative effects of social media. So the thing that I really like about this bill is it kind of goes to the heart of the matter. It goes to the source of the matter. If we can cut off the ill effects, then I think we're getting one step ahead.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
So I just want to thank the author as I said, you know, young minds are just not equipped to deal with these predatory practices.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
And by cutting this off at a certain age, I think we are going to the heart of the matter and recognizing that children are especially vulnerable during critical stages of their brain development. We've taken similar steps. We restrict the use of alcohol, we restrict the use of cigarettes, we restrict the use of gambling. I just don't think social media companies should get a free pass.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
And I am sensitive to, my colleague from West Hollywood who spoke so eloquently that oftentimes social media does provide an outlet as well, and a much needed one for folks that might be isolated.
- Diane Papan
Legislator
But I just feel that this bill and the restrictions that are gonna be placed by this bill ensure that technology serves our children instead of exploiting them. So I wanna thank you for the work, and here's to getting it right.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, miss Papan. Senator Muratsuchi, you're recognized on the measure.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
Thank you very much. I also rise, as a proud joint author, and I wanna thank, our colleague, from Long Beach for leading, this bold measure, that is going to, be watched, across the country and and around the world. As the innovation state, this will be a bold step for the state of California to send a strong message that we need to fight back against the excesses of big tech.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
And I rise and I share my strong support for this as a fellow member of the dads caucus, you know, as a father of a teenage daughter. You know, I have seen this issue of social media and its impact not only on our teenagers and the mental well-being mental health and the well-being, but also on the growing evidence of the impacts of the excesses of social media on educational outcomes.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
We just saw a study that came out recently last week, a week, a week before that, from the education project based at Stanford, Harvard, and Dartmouth. And they've tracked and identified a what they're calling a generation long learning recession, a decline in reading and math scores that preceded the pandemic. And they cite, you know, what what has happened in the mid two thousands to today.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
And one of the most consequential developments in that period has been the dramatic increase of usage of social media as well as overall screen time. And so as, the number of speakers have have talked about earlier, this is a bipartisan.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
This is a nonpartisan, issue. We all need to recognize that social media is the modern day tobacco industry. They are specifically designing these social media products to addict our kids as well as all of us. And so we need to recognize it for what it is. We need to step up to big tech, and I'm proud to be, joining this effort in support of AB 1709.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Muratsuchi. And assemblymember Bauer-Kahan, you're recognized on the bill.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. You've heard the data. Our kids are on social media hours on end. You've heard how it's affecting their brain, their ability to learn.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
But I wanna rise in memory of Alexander Hinks and Coco Arnold and all of the young children who should have gone to prom and graduated from high school, but instead died by suicide or a fentanyl overdose after getting it on social media at the hands of companies that maximize profit over the well-being of our children, who continued to push content that harmed our young girls and our young boys, who allowed them to access the drug that took their life.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
And to say that California is finally saying enough is enough. Our kids deserve better. We have passed so many laws to try to get our arms around the social media crisis, the mental health crisis that has been caused by our social media companies. And this ultimately will allow our kids to just be kids and to grow and thrive and be with their friends and graduate from high school and have the lives that they deserved all along.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
And I'm incredibly proud of the work that has been done on this bill, and I wanna thank the author for his collaboration in it because the bill doesn't just ban social media for our kids.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
It actually sets up a dichotomy. One in which we say, we are going to ban these addictive and harmful features that have taken the lives of kids like Coco and Owl, and we're gonna allow for online spaces that are safe and non addictive and non harmful. And we are gonna create a system that allows you to know the difference and allows our kids to thrive and be connected, but we will no longer tolerate harm. And that, my friends, is good public policy.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
And I also wish Californians are watching this because it turns out there is something that brings Republicans and Democrats together even today, and it's our kids and their well-being.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
And that should make us incredibly proud because they deserve no less. And so with that, I leave you with the memory of these children, and I ask for all of you to vote aye on AB 179.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, Senator Bauer-Kahan. Senator member Hoover, you're recognized on the measure.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Couldn't agree more, with, many of the comments from my colleagues on this floor today. I rise as a joint author and in strong support of AB 1709. And and just so incredibly proud to stand with my colleagues on an issue that I think really should bring hope to this body after a long and sort of tough week on a lot of different issues. This is truly an issue that we can all come together on, truly an issue that is not partisan.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
I rise not as a Republican, but as a parent in California of three amazing kids.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
And it is undeniable at this point what the research shows on how harmful the impacts of social media is to our kids. We have seen incredible changes in
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
the last few years, particularly since 2010, in what our kids are experiencing, what it what they are exposed to, and the negative impacts that are, coming to them as a result of that. Since the, the smartphone was introduced and and kids started getting a hold of it, as my colleague from Long Beach stated, five hours per day on social media websites, the statistics are truly get glaring. And I wanna focus in particularly on the statistics of our young girls.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
If you look at these statistics and the increases for hospitalization rates for self harm among young girls ages 10 to 14, In 2010, before the the smartphone really became ubiquitous amongst our youth, just over twenty young girls per 100,000 were hospitalized for self harm. As of today, that number has risen to over one hundred thirteen per 100,000 young girls, in The United States.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Our suicide rates among young girls and young boys have skyrocketed since the early twenty tens. The statistics are truly undeniable. And this is particularly meaningful for me as a parent of a 14 year old daughter. My only daughter, someone I always tell her, is my favorite daughter. You know, I was driving her to school this week.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
My wife's been making fun of me because this is the last week that I'll ever be able to drive her to school because next year, she's gonna start going to school with her brother. And it just makes me so incredibly emotional to think about the impacts that this could have on her and her generation, which is why I don't allow her to touch social media.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
And to be honest with you, when it comes to the companies creating these project products, I am truly tired of the excuses. And this bill is not about banning products. It is about keeping kids safe online.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
And if we do not act now, when will we act? So I I greatly appreciate my colleague. I really do think this is one of those issues that we will look back on in twenty years if we don't act today and and ask why did we not act sooner. And I wanted to close with this. It was inspired by an article by Jonathan Haidt, who is a New York University psychologist.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
But I just typed this into my AI, and I actually encourage you all to do the same. Permission to read, mister speaker?
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Type this question into your AI and see what it tells you. I'm gonna read this. If you were the devil, how would you destroy the next generation without them even knowing it? And this is what my chatbot responded with. Not with fire and brimstone, not with obvious chains, I'd hand them the keys to their own self destruction and let them call it freedom, progress, and self care.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
The next generation wouldn't fight me. They'd thank me, post about it, and meme the whole thing into oblivion. I would replace real life with infinite distraction, give every kid a pocket supercomputer by age eight, flood it with dopamine hits engineered by the world's smartest psychologists, short form videos, infinite scrolls, porn that rewires their brains before they've even kissed someone, make solitude feel like punishment and real world effort feel pointless. By the time they're 18, their attention span is shot.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Their imagination atrophied, and they literally cannot sit with their own thoughts.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
They'd think they're connected. They're actually alone in the most populated era in history. The master stroke, I'd make every single step feel like rebellion, compassion, or scientific truth. They'd mock anyone warning them as a conspiracy theorist, a bigot, or a Luddite. The destruction would be voluntary, celebrated, and live streamed.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
And the best part, most of them are already doing my work for me right now for free with their whole hearts. I wouldn't even need to lift a finger. Sweet dream, kids. Keep scrolling. I strongly urge an aye vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Hoover. Senator Bonta, you're recognized on the measure.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. I also rise today as a joint author of AB 1709 and wanna thank our colleague from Long Beach for spearheading this effort to create such an opportunity for us to be bipartisan on behalf of our children.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
I rise on behalf of our beautiful people of Oakland, Alameda, and Emeryville, including the countless young people in my community who I had a chance to talk to about this bill and whose mental health and whose lives have been reshaped by social media platforms deliberately engineered to keep them hooked and to keep them coming back.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
We're talking about platforms designed as social slot machines, infinite scroll, autoplay, algorithmic feeds, committed to locking children into their platform, exploiting their vulnerabilities, their hopes, their dreams, their sense of self, and extracting maximum profit in return. When you look at the data here, our teens are reporting the exact things we hear from them time and time again.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
They want help. They believe social media is having a negative effect on their generation, then they themselves spend too much time on social media and that social media is directly harming their sleep, their confidence, and their sense of self. And in fact, our courts, in part, agree with them. A court in Los Angeles found Meta and Google liable for exactly this kind of harm just two months ago.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
The science and the courts are catching up to our beautiful youth and to what our parents and teachers and our outreach workers have already known for years.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
AB 1709 is far overdue. A far overdue response to a reality that we are living every single day that is taking away the joy from our youth. It sets a minimum age of 16 for covered social media platforms requires meaningful age verification, not an honor system, and establishes a very critical eSafety Advisory Commission, which will be how California yet again leads this nation.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
In order to provide ongoing oversight, evaluate compliance, and recommend improvements as the technology evolves at a pace that we cannot keep up with. This bill shifts the burden where it belongs from children and families to the companies that profits from their attention.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
As Chair of the Assembly Health Committee, member of the California Legislative Children's Caucus, a mom of three growing up with these platforms, I've heard from parents, pediatricians, advocates, and most importantly, our children across the state. Anxiety, depression, sleep disruption, body dysmorphia, these are diagnoses showing up in clinical records and school counselors offices every single day. Young people's brains are still developing. These platforms were not designed to preserve the safety that they know they deserve. They were designed to exploit that.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, miss Bonta. Assemblywoman Castillo, you're recognized on the bill.
- Leticia Castillo
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Members, today I rise in strong support of AB 179. I'm not gonna repeat a lot of the comments that my colleagues have already stated, which I agree with. But I rise as a grandmother of five, I just want to thank the author for this bill, and I urge a strong aye vote for this.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, miss Castillo. Assemblywoman Dixon, you're recognized on the measure.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
Thank you, Mister Chair. I we have all heard, is examples real life examples of what's going on in our social media world for children. I am the mother of three grandsons, 13, 11, and 9.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
I am a proud co author and I admire what my colleague on when I was formally on the privacy committee, but my adjacent family assembly member in a neighboring city and county, but a a very good friend and his I admire his passion, his determination as a parent, as a concerned human for what is going on in our online world.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
I many of you may not know or you may or may not know that through your local law enforcement, police or sheriff, they are dealing with this, and I'll speak on this aspect of law enforcement dealing with this on a daily basis.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
I had a presentation by our Orange County sheriff and the dark web. We all think of the platforms and working with the known platforms that have been previously identified. But beneath those platforms is the dark web. And I honestly maybe all of you know about this. I did not know how systemic pervasive and corrosive the dark web is, and it is reaching out to my colleague mentioned young girls, especially young girls.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
But the sex torsion aspect of this called nihilistic behavior and encouraging people who subscribe to this behavior, who are predators, and how there are sex may I read from a sex torsion handbook?
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
A comprehensive guide for perpetrators and how you start this is on the web dark web. Earn money. Easily earn money by selling explicit content you receive from staxtortion or from your victims, blackmail, anyone. Here's an in-depth guide of how to cultivate and create a relationship with a young person, often existing social media site. And it may take a month or two to develop that relationship and then where there's trust involved and then lead to violence.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
Manipulate your targets into sending explicit content using dark psychology before blackmailing them. Avoid law enforcement detailed instructions on how to protect yourself from law enforcement based on these seven this is a how to guide to create a relationship based on nihilistic it's there's a name for it. And there's a a the law enforcement refers to it as seven six four. That's kind of the dark web location where they exploit exploit platform is popular amongst the vulnerable youth, and the majority of the abuse is not targeted.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
They cast a wide net, and the quantity is and they are graded or rated by the quantity of how they bring people into the network.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
So this is not just we may be thinking and our author is doing amazing work just to establish the known platforms. But between underneath the known platforms is where serious, serious crimes against children are being committed and driving them into sexploitation and bring having them upload their sexual images and then creating as extortion extortion, and then driving these children to suicide and desperation.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
So we are just at the beginning and thank goodness, as long as I've been in the assembly, we've been talking about this and thinking, are we ready? We're waiting for Congress. That hasn't happened.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
We we cannot wait any longer. And I'm grateful for you, assembly member, for taking this on with your passion, your commitment, your love for children, your own children, everyone's children. We know it's a problem. Let's get started, and let's not waste any more time. Thank you.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you. We are all parents, grandparents, friends, neighbors of children. We are grateful. Thank you.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
I support this bill, what is AB 1709 with tremendous care, feeling, and enthusiasm. Thank you. Thank you, mister speaker.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, miss Dixon. Assemblymember Patterson, you're recognized on the bill.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
Great. Thank you, mister speaker. You know, I could really go down the, rabbit hole on, this one and maybe I will. But, you know, I I wanna thank the, author, my friend and colleague from Long Beach for bringing me along, not only on this piece of legislation, but others that we have authored on this. I've been on this piece pretty much since day one, you know, because I think it's a really important issue, and and I'm glad that you've been spearheading this along the way.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
And, you know, this has been a process that has been very collaborative. You know, this this isn't something where, you know, a member of the the majority party is strong arming, you know, to to try to get out a piece of legislation. Every step of the way, the author the lead author of this measure has worked with me and incorporated some of the changes that I've suggested in in our little working group that we had.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
This bill also does not come, you know, just a little you know, the elephant in the room, you know, that there's political risks, I think, you know, to something like this. And, you know, sometimes when I think about that, I say, you know, who cares?
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
You know, if there there are consequences, you know, maybe maybe I won't be around next year. I really have no idea, you know, what's gonna happen in November. But I am here now, and I look forward to, making a decision on this bill, because Carpe Diem, we're gonna act now. But, you know, I've tested this locally because my district is a little bit different than, mister Lowenthal's, you know, the the makeup and the partisanship of my constituents are just a teeny tiny bit different.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
And almost everywhere I've go, I've do these town halls or, you know, speaking to groups.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
And, you know, there's one in particular that kinda just stands out. There were a couple 100, women that I was speaking to, and we had some other elected officials in the room. And I had mentioned, I said, hey. We are working on legislation to restrict the use of social media of children. And I didn't really know what to expect, but it was borderline standing ovation, for this concept in Placer County.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
So it's a very populous idea whether, you know, Republican, Democrat. It's something that people really appreciate on both sides both sides of the aisle, but I've continued to test it. And the only kickback I get sometimes is, well, what about parents' involvement? Why do we say to that, can you look at your kid's phone wherever they are? I mean, you can take away their phone.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
You can completely take away their phone until they're 16, I guess, if you want. But the reality is you can't monitor your children at all times. We actually have pretty good locks on our children where we're you know, we have to approve their screen time and all that kind of stuff, which means I get a 100 requests an hour, to approve. But but even with that, you just can't monitor your kids at all times. But, permission to read if if you don't mind.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
And, also a prop here that I'm gonna be reading from. But this here is, an essay that my son did this year on this topic. I didn't know he was doing this, but he came home with it. He got an a, which is, you know, pretty impressive work on this. But I do wanna say his idea of banning social media is 13 years old, not 16.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
I will be open about that. And his birthday is next week, and he'll be 13. So, so he's a good politician, you know, just to just say the least. He'll pick the age where he's gonna be next week. But in this, he he identifies some of the obvious things that we're talking about.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
He says, as people can agree that there is a social media crisis going on all over the world, and Australia did do the right thing and plant their foot down to protect young adults. So he put that in there. And he also said something else.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
He said, one in three people struggle with mental health and considering the fact that social media can cause mental health and ninety percent plus teenagers use social media platforms, there can be a pretty decent sized portion of teens who struggle from mental health due to social media.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
So I think the point is is that kids recognize this themselves. This is my twelve year old son is asking for this. Now sure, he's gonna say, let's you know, 13 sounds like a good age. Could I turn 13 next week? But the reality is he put it all in writing right here.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
Kids need this. They are asking for it. The parents were asking for it when I spoke to the hundreds of people in my district. Everybody's asking for this, and it's our responsibility to give the people what they want. With that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Patterson. Assemblymember Tangipa, you're recognized on the bill.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. And I rise as the last no vote on this bill. And that was in the Appropriations Committee. And as I voted no on this bill, it wasn't a no because I disagreed on the policy. It was a no because of where I see the role of government.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
And that political ideology and thought. And I got a call on Monday from the author of this bill, and we talked about the suicidality rates in children today. We talked about what's happening in Australia. We talked about Jonathan Haidt. We talked about a lot of things.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
And as I was the last no, I look forward to supporting this bill today. I wanna thank the author for the dialogue. I think about my nieces and nephews going through this. I think about where political philosophy and what reality is actually looking like. There are days where you can set those aside, And I really thank the author for, again, the dialogue.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
I encourage all members to give that opportunity. I even sent a message to the author as well just saying that having that general respect when you don't even need to actually ask for it means the world. And with that, because the author is looking at making sure that we work together to protect the future of not only California, but to set a standard, a gold standard that the state of California will be the first state to take this necessary step.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
So that way, the rest of the nation can follow California again. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Tangipa. And assemblymember Schiavo, you're recognized on the bill.
- Pilar Schiavo
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. I wanna thank the author from Long Beach and the bipartisan joint authors and co authors, which I'm proud to be a part of. You know, I just wanna put an extra point on the fact that the tech companies have a 100% control of addressing this. A 100%. They can choose today, tomorrow to flip the switch, to turn off the addictive properties, and make it healthier for us.
- Pilar Schiavo
Legislator
In our in the hearing that we had around concerns in the LGBTQ community, one of the things we talked about was remembering the old days of Facebook. And I'm old enough. I'm a senior, I just found out today, that I remember those old days of Facebook when it was not addictive, when I didn't doom scroll until 12:30 and 1AM. And we know that they know how to do it, and in fact, they're laughing at us.
- Pilar Schiavo
Legislator
We saw in the court documents the LOLs when they figured out that this is as addictive as a drug, as gambling, and that they actually need to hook children earlier as tweens, not later.
- Pilar Schiavo
Legislator
They're doing this on purpose. They know exactly what they're doing. And they have a huge hand in the mental health crisis that we are seeing in our children. And while we are struggling with our budget to figure out how we address that mental health crisis, taxpayer dollars going to fix this mental health crisis, figuring it out on this floor and in committees. And they are laughing all the way to the bank as they add their children and monetize their attention.
- Pilar Schiavo
Legislator
And as a parent, it breaks my heart to see a whole generation of children losing their childhood with their faces and screens. I grew up playing in rivers and streams and lakes. I grew up going up on mountains with my friends and taking a picnic and disappearing for a whole day. And the kind of childhood that children are having today because they have an average of five hours with their face in a screen, being addicted with their minds hijacked, it's not what childhood should be.
- Pilar Schiavo
Legislator
And so they can show these tech companies can show that they care about children by not addicting them, by simply not addicting them to their technology.
- Pilar Schiavo
Legislator
And that with this bill is truly what we're asking for. It's really the least they can do. And with that, I ask for an aye vote on AB 1709 and thank the author again.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, miss Schiavo. And seeing no other members wishing to be recognized on the measure, I wanna ask the sergeants to invite absent members back to the floor and invite the author to close.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Wow. Well, thank you, mister speaker. And I wanna thank the members from San Diego, Oakland, East Nicholas, San Mateo, Torrance, West Hollywood, Orinda, Alameda, Folsom, Rockland, Corona, Newport Beach, Santa Clarita, and Clovis for your thoughtful comments today. I learned from you all. The reason why it was so important to get everybody's vote is because you all have perspectives that I can learn from.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
I wanna point out actually the members from the Central Valley that are the generation younger than me that grew up with social media. I was able to have conversations with them that gave me a different perspective. Truly helpful. I wanna thank the Chair of the LGBTQ caucus. I wanna thank my colleague from West Hollywood for trusting that we will continue to work on the issue of marginalized communities.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
And the LGBTQ community is so lucky to have advocates that can speak for them forcibly when needed. But let's think about the communities of kids that don't have those voices. Kids in the foster care system. Kids who are in rural communities. Kids who are neurodivergent.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Kids who are maybe being abused at home. That are looking for connection. We are going to have to change our ways to make sure that we are providing them with connection. We are going to have to change our ways to make sure we are communicating with the populace, with our voters in ways that doesn't harm them. We are going to have to encourage that every high school team and club is not organizing itself on platforms that is harming the very members that it comprise of them.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
I wanna say very special thank yous to the joint authors on this bill, the member from San Diego, the member from Orinda, the member from Oakland, the member from Folsom, the member from Torrance, the member from Rockland, and the member from Oakland.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
And I also want to acknowledge the coauthors that have added from San Luis Obispo, from Winters, from Modesto, from Delano, from Encinitas, from Los Angeles, from Whittier, from Fresno, from Newport Beach, from San Fernando Valley, from East Nicholas, from Indio, from Alturas, from San Francisco, from Santa Barbara, from Pasadena, from Thousand Oaks, from Moreno Valley, from Lake Elsinore, from San Jose, from Inglewood, from Elk Grove, from San Leandro, from San Mateo, from Fullerton.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Our speaker from Salinas, Santa Rosa, from Santa Clarita, from San Diego, from Merced, from San Francisco, from Anaheim, and from Bermuda Dunes. And now to the shareholders of these companies, I don't consider you to be the problem. I consider you to be the solution.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We do not want technology that is simply gonna be less harmful for our children. We know you have the ingenuity to do more. We want you to make our children smarter. We want you to make them feel better about themselves. We want you to make them aim higher.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We want you to make them feel good about socialization. Now many of you have enjoyed the morning buns that I and the bread that I bring into the members lounge from my bakery. And I gotta tell you, the thing about having a small business, the only way you can survive is when you love your customers. You care about them. You listen to them.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
You're regulars, you honor them. And you take their input. And they love you. And that's the relationship that works. And it's time that these platforms start to love their customers, to lean into wellness as a core principle, to be starting at a place of safety and working back from there.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
The shareholders of these companies listen to us. We're telling you precisely what you need to do so that we can love you, And we know that you love us back. And when you do that, we'll be there with you all the way. I thank you all for your support on this bill. Look around the room, everybody.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We're making history. Respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Lowenthal. Clerk, open the roll. All those who desire to vote. All those who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Clerk will close roll, tally votes. Aye 72, no 0. AB 179 is passed.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Members at this time, Miss Pellerin is prepared to lift the call.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. Aye 41, noes 21. Measures passed.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And Madam majority, you're recognized from your desk for your procedural motions.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Good afternoon. At the request of the author, please move item 50, AB 1788 Boerner to the inactive file.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Pursuant to assembly rule 96, I request unanimous consent to re-refer SB 762 Irwin, from the local government committee to the revenue and tax committee, and then back to the local government committee.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Without objection, such shall be the order. Members, we're moving back on file. We are at file item 46. This is AB 1575 by Doctor Rambula, the clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1575 by Assembly member Arambula, an act relating to Developmental Services.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker and members. The Lanterman Act was a landmark law in our state, which guarantees the rights and services for persons who have intellectual and developmental disabilities. By guaranteeing and enshrining the state's responsibility to care for persons with developmental disabilities.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
We also changed the landscape and disability in California by making sure that we were lessening the associated stigma that came with it. Unfortunately, despite these existing protections, to ensure that this person first language emphasizes each person's humanity and moving away from stigmatizing language.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
With that, I will respectfully ask for an aye vote. And thank you, Mister speaker.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Doctor Arambula. Assemblymember Jeff Gonzalez, you were recognized.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
I wanna thank the author. Thank you, Mister speaker. I wanna thank the author for this nuance piece of legislation. There's a lot of work to be done with respect to the Lanterman Act and the fact that you're looking at it and and we are partnered together in this. This is not a partisan issue.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
This is an issue that is affecting the most vulnerable people in all of California. So I wanna thank your the author for his leadership. I respectfully asked for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Gonzalez. Doctor Arambula, do you wish to close?
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. And before the majority floor leader reminds me, this is my last bill that I'm getting out before the house of origination. And I'm bringing that up because after more than a decade of service here on this floor, we have oftentimes needed more champions for disability. And I'm reminding this floor to do our responsibility that began with the Lantern Man Act and needs to continue far beyond our term limits and our service.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
It's important that we have champions who are standing up for the vulnerable, who are listening, who are fighting for them, and figuring out ways that we can deliver on the rights and the dignity that they deserve.
- Joaquin Arambula
Legislator
It's been an honor, much as it was within my practice of being a physician, where I got to choose the patients that I serve. I asked many of you to introduce pieces of legislation where you choose who you want to champion. Our disability community needs people to stand up for them, and I'm grateful that this is the final bill that I'm introducing on their behalf. With that, I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Assembly member, you beat me to the punch. Darn. We all I wanna thank you for all your service you've done here on the floor. You've been a great inspiration for many of us and really taking care of our health care community and our people with disabilities. So thank you and continue on onto your next life after this but we still have bills coming back.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Now you all better vote for his bill. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. aye 64, no zero. The measure passes. By item 47, that's AB 1720 by Assemblymember Haney. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly goal seventeen twenty by Assemblymember Haney an act related to sales.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. I rise to present AB 1720, which is the California Fans First Act, which will protect, California's fans, from excessive price gouging by capping resale prices at no more than 10% of what was originally paid for it, inclusive of fees for live events and live performances. We know that live events are a huge part of who we are as a state. We are the number one state in the country for live events.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
It is a part of the lives of all of our constituents to be able to go and see these artists artists and performances that they love.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
It generates billions of dollars in revenue. It helps to employ many tens of thousands of people. And most importantly, it adds culture and community and connectivity to our state. For so many years, it was pretty simple how you went to access these shows. You lined up at the venue.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
You got your ticket. You paid for it, and you went to see the show. These shows were for fans. Unfortunately, what has happened now and what is happening at large venues and small venues all across our state is that this has been more about speculators and scalpers and gambling than it is about access for fans. The result is that fans are being priced out of shows.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
What happens is the tickets go on sale, scalpers come in and take as many of them as they can, often creating scarcity, and then force fans to pay a huge markup in order to see an artist that they love. The result is that our independent venues are struggling, fans are being priced out of shows, artists are not being, paid, directly for the work that they're doing, and the scalpers and the speculators are ones that are benefiting.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
We have to make a change in our state to ensure that fans actually can access these shows that are taking place in our communities. This is already happening in dozens of countries around the world. We know there's an effort all over the country to make these changes.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
12 states have similar bills. New York is actually voting on theirs, a bipartisan bill today. Vermont's was signed into law last week. This is something that we can do to not only ensure access for fans, but to support our venues and support our artists. Amendments were made in the Appropriations Committee.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
This will only apply to smaller venues, independent venues, which have been begging for this and the artists who are supporting it, and, is something that we can do to ensure that we support our artists, support our venues, and make sure the fans who just wanna see the artists they love have access to those shows, respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Haney. Assembly member Bauer Kehan, you are recognized.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. When I became chair of the privacy and consumer protection committee, I don't think I ever imagined I would spend as much time as I have on the question of how people can buy Taylor Swift tickets. But yet it has been hours and hours of my life, and I don't know how many bills that have moved through my committee. And I think it is actually a really important consumer question and one that we have struggled with.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
I actually supported this bill moving out of my committee because I believe that the gouging that is happening and let me be clear, I think it is mostly by people who are employing bots to buy many of these tickets.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
They are then reselling them on secondary platforms at enormous profit, and that profit is not going to the people that the assembly member from San Francisco mentioned, the artists, the small venues, the ones who put their heart and soul into putting on events for us and making our lives richer. So I like the idea of caps. I will say that the bill in its its current form exempts Ticketmaster, which I think as a monopoly should be covered by this.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
The largest venues are often where we see the problems. So the limitation on that I think is a weakness of the bill and one that will hurt consumers.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
And so as much as I am here to support our small venues, I think that this needs broader application, and I think we need to make sure that every consumer is protected. So I'll be supporting the bill today, but I think we need to look out for everybody and make sure our monopolies aren't getting away with something that our small venues cannot.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Bauer Khan. Seeing and hearing no further debate, Assemblymember Haney, do you wish to close?
- Matt Haney
Legislator
I agree and echo the the comments there. I I do think this is a problem at small and large venues. It's a problem in Live Nation Ticketmaster venues and those that are independent. And just to to clarify that, the Ticketmaster and Live Nation were excluded from this bill, not because they wanted to be included or excluded. They wanted to be included.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
So this was something that that that they did not want, and so they're being exempted. But really, it should cover them. It should cover everyone. But this is a way for us to be able to demonstrate that these kind of caps will improve access for fans, will support venues, will support artists, and it's it it is an important step forward. The venues want it.
- Matt Haney
Legislator
The artists want it. We should support it. The fans want it. And hopefully, ultimately, we can cover these larger venues as well. And, we're respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you so much. Assemblymember Haney, I'll debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We'll close the roll, tally votes, aye 41, no 15, the measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Pass temporarily on file items 48, 49, 50, 51. File item 52 is AB 185 by Assembly member Ransom. This is a 54 vote bill.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1805 by Assemblymember Ransom and others, an act relating to emergency services and declaring to take effect immediately.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. Colleagues, I rise to present AB 1805. This is an urgent bill. The next generation 911 project was created more than a decade ago to modernize California's emergency communication system. But after spiel spending nearly a billion taxpayer dollars, the project has faced serious failures, including outages that left entire regions without 911 access for hours.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
We are known across the world for innovation and dubbed the Tech Capital of the World, yet after many years and more than $450,000,000 invested we've failed to deliver the important and long awaited public safety project, this is unnaceptable. That is why my emergency management team and my capital team have spent months working with colleagues from both sides of the aisle to figure out where we allow this project to go wrong and where we go from here.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
I've met with Cal OES, administration, vendors, and stakeholders. We convened oversight hearings on the project and emergency management to examine the project's failures and the accountability gaps that led us here. What we learned was appalling.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
The signs of failure in plain sight, no clear understanding of who was providing technological oversight and guidance, and how the pivot from the long awaited regional approach was pivoted to a statewide approach.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
How do we protect California from being locked into contracts into perpetuity? So despite many congenial win-win conversations, we still don't see a credible path forward that avoids this kind of life threatening mistake that we've already seen. I wanna be abundantly clear that NextGen 911 is a need, not a want. We do not desire to stop this project.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
During an oversight hearing about the active shooter preparedness, we heard real life stories, including a story of the recent mass shooting that injured 14 people and took four lives in my district.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
It was reported during that incident, the lack of interoperability within the 911 system slowed down response times. Again, Next gen 911 is a need, not a want. That is why I'm asking you to join me today in support of AB 1805. 1805 is about accountability and finding the pathway forward. The bill requires an audit from the state auditor so that the legislature can get a clear answer for what went wrong.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Second, it strengthens oversight of the emergency services office giving the Department of Technology the ability to oversee the technological implementation of the project. Third, it strengthens the 911 advisory board, giving them a proper seat at the table when OES decides on project standards, budgets, and changes. The bill requires detailed quarterly reports to the legislature on the project status, challenges, and corrective actions to get us back on the rails.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
California's deserve a 911 system that is reliable, accountable, and available when people need it most. We deserve to know what has gone wrong and why the office of emergency services is changing direction after fifteen years.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Because when someone calls 911, the last thing they should worry about is whether anyone will answer. This bill enjoys no opposition and bipartisan support, and I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Ransom. Assemblymember Hoover, you are recognized.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. I rise in strong support of AB 185. I think this audit is incredibly important. We have a serious problem with our next generation 911 system here in California. We have spent $450,000,000 taxpayer dollars on a system that Cal OES now tells us does not work.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
The legislature has a responsibility to get to the bottom of this to determine if we need to spend more money or if there's parts of that system that can be salvaged. And this audit, will absolutely help us get to the bottom of this. I would be remiss if I did not mention that we currently have an audit proposal sitting in the JLAC committee with bipartisan support that could be heard on June 1 at our next audit hearing.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Could have been heard a couple weeks ago in our first audit hearing of the year. And yet there is continues to be pushback against that audit being brought forward.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Why is that? Because the Governor does not want to see this audit actually take place, because this happened under the governor's watch. I would encourage the members on this floor, on both the left and the right, to stop allowing the governor to shirk accountability on this next generation 911 system. We could have this audit heard in just a couple of weeks and get the auditor working on it right away.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
Instead, the Governor has proposed in his budget $141,000,000 more taxpayer dollars to reset this to spend more taxpayer dollars on another brand new next generation 911 system before we have even identified if there are parts of this system that can be salvaged.
- Josh Hoover
Legislator
I think that is irresponsible. I think we, as the assembly and as the legislature have a responsibility to push back on the administration on that and would strongly urge an aye vote on this bill and an audit, as soon as possible on the Next generation 911 system.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Hoover, seeing and hearing no further debate, Assembly member Ransom, do you wish to close?
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Thank you, Mister speaker. Again, there is no secret that our approach and our attempt to move NextGen 911 forward was problematic. It is so important that we do not allow our taxpayer dollars to be wasted, and more importantly, that we invest in protecting the lives of the millions of Californians. As was stated, this bill enjoys bipartisan support, and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Ransom. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally votes. Aye 67, no 0. On the urgency. Aye 67, no 0, on the measure. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We're gonna pass temporarily on file item 53. File item 54 is AB 2168 by assembly member Wicks. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2168 by Assembly member Wicks, an act relating to transportation.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and members. California's active transportation program is our state's primary funding source for biking and walking infrastructure, supporting projects that increase safety, promote public health, and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. AB 2168 makes a series of modest common sense improvements to this program. The program is spent funds are spent efficiently and effectively. And with that,
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Wicks. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll tally to vote ayes 42, nos 18, the measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item 55 is AB 2461 by Assembly Member Hart. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly Bill 2,461 by Assembly Member Hart, an act related to oil and gas.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I am pleased to present AB 2461, a bill to clarify California's oil and gas bonding requirements to ensure that oil companies, not taxpayers, are pulling the full cost of properly plugging wells and decommissioning facilities. California has tens of thousands of aging and inactive oil wells that eventually need to be plugged. According to the carbon tracker initiative, California's onshore oil production, decommissioning, and site remediation liabilities could total as much as $21,000,000,000.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
When operators go bankrupt or otherwise face financial trouble, taxpayers are often left on the hook to properly plug wells and decommission facilities.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
AB 1167, which was signed into law in 2023, already requires operators acquiring wells or facilities to provide financial assurance sufficient to cover plugging abandonment and other costs. Since AB 1167 became law, large oil company acquisitions through all stock deals were determined not to trigger the expected financial assurance requirements. AB 1167 was intended to prevent operators from shifting closure cost to financially unstable operators in exactly these types of circumstances.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
My bill, AB 2469, will strengthen accountability requirements by clarifying that even in the case of these all stock transactions or corporate restructuring, existing financial requirements already approved by this legislature still apply. This legislation strengthens California's oil and gas bonding requirements to ensure that oil companies, not taxpayers, are paying the full cost to properly probing wells and decommissioning facilities.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Hart. Assembly member Brian, you are recognized.
- Isaac Bryan
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker and colleagues. I I rise in support of this measure. It's an important and necessary measure. I also wanna point out that our colleague from Contra Costa has a similar measure. Both of these bills, have contingent enactment.
- Isaac Bryan
Legislator
We have already moved the first bill, and I respectfully ask for aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Brian. Seeing and hearing no further debate, assembly member Hart, do you wish to close?
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Hart, all debate having ceased clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll, tally the vote ayes 43, nos 20. The measure passes. We're gonna pass temporarily on file item 56. File item 57 is AB 2499 by Assemblymember Gibson. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2499 by Assembly member Gibson and others an act relating to corrections.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
Thank you very much, mister speaker members. Assembly bill 20 2499 directs the Cal OSHA to develop a workplace, safety standard specifically tailored to employees working in California state prisons. Correctional facilities presents a unique workplace conditions that can expose workers to extreme heat and other, climate related hazards. Assembly bill 2499 ensures that Cal OSHA evaluates these conditions and develop regulatory appropriate for, work for prisons, workplace.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
This bill provides a deliberate and data driven process to address work healthy and safety concerns in state correctional institutions.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
Lastly, this bill received bipartisan support, respectfully asked, but I vote on twenty four ninety nine.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Gibson. All debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll tally of votes ayes 42. No's 13. The measure passes, which brings us to file item number 58.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
That's AB 2700 by Assembly member Gallagher. Clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2700 by Assembly member Gallagher and others an act related to electricity.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker, for the opportunity to present AB 2700, a bill that helps ensure fair and timely compensation for victims of utility caused wildfires, all without shifting any new costs onto rate payers. AB 2700 ensures that victims of utility wildfire, utility caused wildfires occurring before we establish the wildfire fund are are fully compensated. Many wildfire victims continue to face verified restitution shortfalls year after year.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
People are still recovering without receiving this money, that they deserve after losing everything, and after they have been PG and E was found liable, you know, for those fires. AB 2700 is a narrow targeted and fiscally responsible fix.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
It strengthens California's commitment to those who lost everything from these natural disasters. Now lastly, I would like to thank all the members who've agreed to coauthor a bipartisan all who are coming together to work on this issue. And I respectfully urge your aye vote on this important measure. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, congressman. Excuse me. Assemblymember Gallagher. Assemblymember Rogers, you are recognized.
- Chris Rogers
Legislator
Thank you so much, mister speaker. I rise in support of AB 2700. As was mentioned by my colleague, this isn't about politics. It's about people. And we have seen communities that have been devastated by wildfires that have still not been able to fully recover.
- Chris Rogers
Legislator
We know that the longer it takes for people to be able to return home, the harder it is to maintain services in that area. And this is an acknowledgment that the previous way that we have compensated survivors was inadequate and looking for a path forward for folks still struggling to pick up the pieces of
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Rogers. Assembly member Brian, you are recognized. Oh, some excuse me. Assembly member Flora, you are recognized.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. To my colleague from East Nicholas, I think this might be your last bill on this floor. He's leaving us a little bit early this year. He's gonna go fill his friend's seat and dunk them all off in Congress. But I just wanna say thank you for being an example to all of us on how to be, disagreeable without being disagreeable, how to actually be a conservative and be effective.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
You are an absolute, privilege to work with, as my leader, being on your floor team. We're gonna miss you. The state of California is gonna miss you, but I know you're gonna go represent the East, you know, Northern part of the state. East Nicholas very well in Congress, and love you, brother. We appreciate you very much.
- Isaac Bryan
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I certainly don't wanna belabor the point, and he may accuse me of lying later. But in our six house of origins together, it's been a pleasure to serve with our colleague from Nicholas. Your leadership, your steady hand, your consistency, has been a a betterment to this body, and I've enjoyed serving with you. We will miss you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Okay. Seeing and hearing no further debate, congressman, you wish to close?
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Let's not count our tricks before they've hatched, but thank you guys for the support. This is a very righteous bill. And, you know, a long time coming, and we're trying to make sure that our victims are compensated. Still, you know, in in many parts of the state, people are really struggling to recover from devastating fires that have that have rocked all of our communities. And so I really appreciate the the support that's come alongside this effort.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
We'll continue to get this done. It's not done yet. We're passing out here today. We need to get it done in the Senate. But I very much appreciate your support and ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Gallagher. All debate haven't ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. aye 70, no zero. The measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Bylaw number 59 is AB 2711 by Assemblymember Ellis. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2711 by Assemblymember Ellis and others an act related to oil and gas.
- Stan Ellis
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker members. Twenty seven eleven just restores predictability and efficiency to the to the permit process regarding drilling. Under this bill, Cal Jam would require be required to reprove approve or deny a notice of detention within thirty days. I've had some comments from colleagues. Maybe that's not quite long enough.
- Stan Ellis
Legislator
I'm willing to negotiate on that and and work with my colleagues on that amount of time. And and that's only, of course, if all the necessary environmental and technical reviews are complete. It does not weaken environmental review. It simply requires that permits are processed when in a reasonable time frame. This bill was received by the partisan support in the Assembly Natural Resources Committee.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Ellis, assembly member Alvarez, you are recognized.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I wanna rise in support of assembly bill 2711. Thank our colleague, from, Kern County for, this work. It's really in line with a lot of the conversations we've been having now for some time on ensuring that, processes make sense for business. This is not a giveaway.
- David Alvarez
Legislator
This is not a special perk. This is about certainty. People who want to invest in some way in the state of California should have a process of which creates certainty for them. And I think this is a very common sense bill, a great approach at addressing a problem that exists in California. I wanna thank again our colleague who has been focused on this and, again, a very common sense solution to a problem that we have and respectfully ask for aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Alvarez. Speaker Flora, you are recognized.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
Thank you again, mister speaker. To my colleague from Bakersfield, I think this might be your last bill on this floor, and you're also leaving us this year. You talk a lot about science, and I had to go buy a science for dummies book just to figure out what the heck you were talking about most of the time. But your knowledge and what you brought to natural resources committee is second to none. This institution's gonna miss your steady hand, your voice.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
We're certainly gonna miss you, but it's been a privilege to serve with you for the last two years, and love you to death, my friend.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I was rising, in recognition of assemblymember Ellis. This is his last bill. We we got you for a short time, and you are electing to not come back because we're doing such a great job. He says y'all don't need me.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
He said there's better things to do. But I just wanna say that it's it's really been great to be able to have a colleague and a co a partner, on the other side who will laugh with me and take my silly jokes, but also look at all of our problems as opportunities. And so I just really wanna appreciate, you know, the scientific piece that you bought, the open heart, open mindness that you brought to the job, and just wanna wish you the best of luck.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
I know we are still gonna work with you, but good luck on this bill. Thanks for being here.
- Jasmeet Bains
Legislator
Good speaker. I just also I'm glad we I was actually gonna text you and say, is this your last bill? It has been such an honor to represent Kern County with you and especially it's an honor to represent a community like Kern County and having your expertise and your voice has been amazing to work with. So thank you for this bill, and thank you for all your work, Vasili Morales.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, doctor Banes. Assembly member Avi Laffarias, you are recognized.
- Anamarie Farias
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Also wanted to rise and thank the author not only for this bill, but what a joy and pleasure it has been not only to have worked with him, this last year and a half and really sad to see him go. Appreciate, all the skill, the knowledge you brought to this space. We need more of you here, that can reach across the aisle and work collaboratively, in this space. And I'm sorry we scared you away.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Avi Laffarias. Seeing and hearing no further debate, Assemblymember Ellis, do you wish to close?
- Stan Ellis
Legislator
I respectfully ask for an aye vote and I also am tremendously honored by the intellect and the amazing people that I've got to work with. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Ellis, for your service. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll and tally the votes. ayes forty three, no's 1, the measure passes. Okay. Members, we are going to skip to file item number seven. That is AB 1886 by Assemblymember El Hawari.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1886 by Assemblymember El Hawari and act related to juveniles.
- Sade Elhawary
Legislator
Good afternoon, mister speaker and members. I am proud to present AB 1886, which creates a more fair and consistent system so that every young person has a real chance to move forward and not stay stuck in the system longer than necessary. This bill closes a gap in current law so that youth in out of home placements receive the same protections as youth living at home, helping prevent unnecessarily long probation terms.
- Sade Elhawary
Legislator
This bill also requires regular court review hearings to assess a young person's progress and ensures that probation conditions are reasonable, age appropriate, and focused on rehabilitation. I have had an opportunity to speak to many of you and heard some of your concerns and have committed to removing this the SYTF youth from the bill.
- Sade Elhawary
Legislator
Those are young people who are in the secure youth treatment facilities, and we'll be doing that in the Senate and look forward to working with the opposition about their concerns. I respectfully ask for your
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Al Hawari. Assemblymember Krell, you are recognized. No.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
Thank you. Good morning good afternoon, mister speaker and colleagues. I wanna thank, the member from Los Angeles for bringing this important bill. I will be voting for this bill today. I really appreciate her taking the time to work through the opposition concerns, removing the seven zero seven b offenses from this bill.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
Those are the the youth that are locked in a youth facility treatment are the more serious offenders. And right now, when we when we sorry. Let me back up for a Sec. We made several reforms in California for the rehabilitation of youth in our system. One of those reforms that I didn't agree with at the time was capping probation at one year.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
However, the exception to that cap was for youth that are not assigned to in home placements. So those are placements like the the secure youth treatment facility, but it also encompass foster youth, which is really unfair to foster youth. These are some of the most vulnerable kids. Many of these kids are actually victims themselves of abuse, of neglect, of human trafficking.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
So what this bill does now with the change that the author's making is it ensures that foster youth get the same benefits of our reforms that other youth get.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
So I am proud to support this bill. I'm proud to work with the author. I think it's a really important change that we're making with this bill.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Krell. Assemblymember Anson, you are recognized.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I don't know who's gonna speak, but I'm gonna rise, just to kinda share some perspective and appreciate the author. I know she's like, what is she gonna say? We have had some really deep conversations, about this issue. Some of you may not know that, I worked with the youth, the population that she is seeking to serve for quite some time.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
And I'm always careful to make sure that our good intentions don't have an unintended consequence. And so I was able to share with the author really some concerns that I I completely understood that we wanted to not have our young people, unintentionally, you know, left, especially the foster kids, left on out of home placement, left on probation.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
But I also was very clear that in some cases the only way they can get services is through the different process and that's what we've we created in California unfortunately, but I wanna say that the author was very empathetic and and very thoughtful and took everything to heart because the foster youth, if you look at our criminal justice system, foster youth are a large part of that.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
In some places, nearly eighty percent of kids that are in the criminal justice system have been in out of home placement. That means they don't always have safe places to go home to.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
They don't have safe cultures to go home to. They don't have people that are gonna make sure that they get that trauma informed care to make sure that they are making those court dates, to make sure that they're getting the job training. So we have to make sure that we are building a California that will not just keep people looped in the criminal justice system, but that will give them the access. I was deeply concerned about the SecureTrack Youth. But the author has done the work.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
She's removed them. And it's not that she just wanted to get a bill passed. When she heard the concerns, she wanted to make sure that she was not creating harm for her kids. So I really if you ever wanna meet a member that cares deeply about restorative work and about the people that she serves, it's going to be the member from Los Angeles.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
And so with that, I really appreciate your thoughtfulness, the time you've taken, and I know that I gave you a lot of heartburn, but I really appreciate what you've done.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
And with that, I will be supporting the bill and encouraging others to do the same. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Ransom. Seeing and hearing no further debate, Assemblymember El Hawari, do you wish to close?
- Sade Elhawary
Legislator
I just really wanna thank the member from Oakland who started this process, who's been incredible in her work, and so much, gratitude to my, colleagues from Sacramento and Tracy, for speaking in support of the bill and sharing your concerns as well so that we can work together, and really be committed in the next legislative session to working with, probation, working with the judges, to find the right, the the the right solution specifically for the SYTF youth. And I respectfully ask for your right vote. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Al Hawari, all debate having ceased. Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally votes, aye 43, no 17, the measure passes. Members pursuant to assembly rule 77.2, I'm re referring item 12, which is assembly bill 2615 by Assemblymember's Board to the rules committee. Okay. We are going to file item 44 by our assistant majority leader Garcia.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly Concurrent Resolution 202 by Assembly member Garcia relative to five twenty nine College Savings Day.
- Robert Garcia
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise to present ACR 202, which recognizes May 29 as May. As a lifelong educator, I know firsthand how a college education can change lives. I also understand that many families face the impossible task of sending their child to college as tuition and other fees soar beyond affordability. I'll be facing that reality here in a couple months.
- Robert Garcia
Legislator
When families are burdened with student loan debt, basic living costs become unimaginable. The Federal Reserve has reported that student loan debt has reached $1,840,000,000,000 nationally. This is up by $2,620,000,000,000 since 2008. That is why college savings plans such as the ScholarShare 05/29 provide a critical service for students and families looking to limit or eliminate future debt. 2026 marks thirty years of 05/29 college savings plans that have allowed for more than $6.00 $3,000,000,000 to be saved for higher education.
- Robert Garcia
Legislator
California's five twenty nine plan has grown to more than $17,300,000,000 in total assets since established in 1999, successfully supporting over 487,000 ScholarShare users. We must continue to grow and raise awareness of five twenty nine programs and the importance of early preparation for one's future, because student loan debt should never be a barrier to obtaining higher education. Thank you, and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Garcia. All debate having ceased, the clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. aye 66, no zero. The measure passes. The resolution is adopted.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
That is AB 2261 by Assembly member Dixon. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 2261 by Assembly member Dixon an act about legal protective orders.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
Well, good afternoon. Thank you, mister speaker and colleagues. I am pleased to present AB 2261, which clarifies and restores judicial authority to issue criminal protective orders to a victim's family and household members. This is a support support bill. AB 2261 closes a statutory gap, strengthens victim safety, and aligns the statute with the legislature's long standing intent to expand, not restrict the availability of criminal protective orders in serious cases.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
This bill is sponsored by the California District Attorneys Association and supported by the California Police Chiefs and the State Sheriffs and the Riverside County District Attorneys. I would like to thank the Chair of Public Safety for working with my with me and my team, on committee amendments to refine the bill. The bill passed assembly public safety and assembly appropriations with unanimous support. By clearly defining who may be protected and requiring competent evidence, the bill ensures due process while allowing courts to respond appropriately to demonstrated risk.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Dixon. Leader Flora, you are recognized.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. And Diane, my colleague from Orange County, I think this is your last bill on this floor. And for those of you who've ever been in meetings with Diane, you know she asked a lot of questions all the time. And it took me to realize you came from a journal your family's in journalism, in newspapers, and so it's like that makes a lot of sense.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
But through those questions, you actually made us all a lot smarter on the issues because you really dug into it.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
You just didn't accept an answer. You really wanted to know why. But it's been an honor to serve with you. I know you're gonna serve the people of Orange County very well, in your next, you know, position. So we love you, and we appreciate you, and we're gonna miss you.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
I rise in support of assembly member from Orange County. It has been I wanna refuse to allow this to be her last bill. Is that a thing? Okay. It's gonna make a motion, but maybe that's not an order.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
But it has been such a privilege to have her on this floor, to have her serve as vice chair on my committee. There is no one who works harder for her grandchildren on this floor than assembly member Dixon does. She really, really believes in the future and wants to fight for it and has worked with both sides of the aisle to do so. And it has been an incredible honor to serve with you, and I wanna thank you on behalf of the people of California.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Bauer Kehan. Assemblymember Rubio, you are recognized.
- Blanca Rubio
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Dixon, it has been an honor and a pleasure to work with you. Don't do that. You're gonna make me weepy too. I have had the pleasure of work to work with the Kindest, Kindest person I have met.
- Blanca Rubio
Legislator
I wanna thank you for your service. Appreciate all of the work that you did, and thank you for being such a kind person to me and to all of the members of the assembly. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Rubio. Assembly member Davies, you are recognized.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
I know I'll make myself cry here, but I've you know, I had the honor of knowing Diane serving and City Council City Council and mayor at the same time she was in in Newport Beach, but really having the opportunity to sit next to her and be desk desk friends and deskmates and and do a lot of laughing and and make fun of ourselves, but really talk about bills and, you know, you know, the importance of what our job is.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
And it's not always easy, but we're so glad we had the opportunity. And when I heard that she was running for another office, you know, I can't say I really was happy. And we we tried to keep her here as much as we could, but I also know that God has led her to another place where she probably will be even more effective and where they truly do need her with the common sense. So I just wanna say I love you.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Friends forever, and you're gonna be a hell of a supervisor. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
None of us are happy. First, we don't get retirement, then Dixon's leaving us. Assemblymember Bonta, you are recognized.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
I also just wanted to acknowledge, the very gracious colleague that we have from Newport Beach who, just has been such a warrior from her heart and in good policy, particularly in the area of health care and particularly in the area of of making sure that we are addressing fully substance use disorders, with her heart and passion and from the lived experience of her family that she's often shared, on this floor about.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
It's been very meaningful to the policies that we've been able to have in the state of California, and I wanna thank you for your contributions over time. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Yes. You can change your mind. You can. Before I hand it back to you for your close, I just wanna take this moment to say, I'm gonna miss my very favorite member of the legislature as well. And I would further like to note, thank you for being our conscience here in the legislature. We appreciate you so much, Assemblymember Dixon. And with that, do you wish to close?
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
I'm grateful for all of you. It's been such an honor to work with you, but we're not done yet. We haven't until August. I'll still be here, but it's just a pleasure. It really is truly a pleasure to do the work that we need to do to help California and help the next generation.
- Diane Dixon
Legislator
And that's why we have two sides of the aisle. We all contribute, and I'm grateful to be part of that process. So thank you very much. Oh, I may my colleague reminded me to ask for an aye vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
We'll also miss you wrestling with the microphone. On that note, Clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. Aye 63, no zero. The measure passes. Okay. We're going to file item number 48, everyone.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
File item number 48. That is AB 1752 by Assemblymember Lackey. The clerk will read.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly bill 1752 by Assemblymember Lackey, an act relating to imminent domain.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
Alright. Support support bill. Pretty simple one that addresses eminent domain and outdated reimbursement cap, and it too deserves your support. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Oh, you're not getting away that easily. Leader Flora, you are recognized.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
There we go. Thank you, mister speaker. To my friend from Lancaster, Palmdale, for those of you on this floor that don't know, Tom spent twenty eight years with California Highway Patrol, twelve years in the state assembly. That's forty years of service. He served the state of California, bud.
- Heath Flora
Legislator
And your steady hand has been absolutely honorable. It's been awesome to hear you debate hard public safety bills on this floor with a a compassion that only comes from a law enforcement operative who really truly cared and why you serve. And your heart for service showed through every day on this green carpet. We are truly gonna miss you. But forty years of service to the state of California does not go lightly, and we certainly wanna recognize that and appreciate you very much.
- Blanca Rubio
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. And I would also like to thank Assemblymember Lackey for his service. We spent many, many years together on GEO and as, my vice chair. So I really appreciate, your support and your help on everything. And, you know, somebody asked me once, who would be my unlikely partner, and you all didn't know that mister Lackey was my partner for a very long time.
- Blanca Rubio
Legislator
We did a a few things together, and I really appreciate the the the ability to be able to work across the aisle and, you know, have you. And he worked, as a CHP officer in the Baldwin Park division, which is in my district. So I just wanted to point that out. But thank you for your service, and we look forward I I look forward to seeing what you what great things you do next. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Rubio. Assemblymember Krell, you are recognized.
- Maggy Krell
Legislator
I echo the other comments. You have been such a true friend. I'm gonna miss you so much. We only got to overlap for a year and a half so far, but you're a real one, and I greatly appreciate your perspective and your friendship. And bad news for the member from Buena Park.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Krell. Assemblymember Carrillo, you are recognized.
- Juan Carrillo
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I also wanna thank my colleague from Palmdale. We both live in the city of Palmdale because of the crazy district they're created. We both represent Palmdale and Lancaster. Yes.
- Juan Carrillo
Legislator
But you keep showing up in my district. You were there to to test on Memorial Day. You were. You were. But I appreciated you coming over to to my district events, and I think that you and I both serve I don't think you and I both serve in the Palmer City Council at different times, obviously, but I really appreciate you being here, being kind of a guide for me.
- Juan Carrillo
Legislator
I remember the first time we flew in together when when I got elected asking what it's gonna be like, and you did tell me what it's gonna be like. You were absolutely right. Thank you for your friendship and the leadership and for caring about the Antelope Valley and for everybody in California. I appreciate you very much. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Carrillo. Assembly member Hadwick, you are recognized.
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
I just wanted to add a few. I Tom and I are not allowed to sit together because he makes me laugh too much. But I'm really gonna miss you, and I'm glad I got to be here the last the last leg of your your, service, and thank you for giving so much to California. I think you are the model of what a representative to be, but not just an elected, just as a human. So thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member assembly member Bonta, you are recognized.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
I also want to just thank our assembly member. I had the pleasure and honor of serving in the most impressionable years of my career on public safety with our assembly member. And you are a person of great integrity. I so appreciated the way that you stretched and tried to reconcile our very divergent points of view.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
And I always appreciated that you came with that integrity and that experience to the area of public safety and where we always did align was in the area of making sure that our corrections departments would do better and be better for every single Californian, who was in our prisons and had an opportunity to visit with you in many of those.
- Mia Bonta
Legislator
I just wanna also wanna thank you for your love and heart that you bring in particular to our children with disabilities and to our children who are a part of the court court appointed special advocates program, the CASA program, our shared loves and passions. And I wanna thank you and know that we will carry on that work with you, on this floor. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Bonta. Assembly member Hart, you are recognized.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Yeah. I just wanna add my words of congratulations to assembly member Lackey. In addition to his, integrity and his passion and his commitment to service, he has a really great sense of humor that he practices all the time. And that's what I'm gonna miss the most about being around you, Tom. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Hart. Assemblymember Baines. Doctor Baines, you are recognized.
- Jasmeet Bains
Legislator
Thank you, speaker. I first met you when I was coming up as a doctor advocating for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, and I remember hearing your passion in your work and your where does life bring you? And now I'm serving with you right here in the legislature. You have been such a passionate voice even before I got elected. Thank you for your years.
- Jasmeet Bains
Legislator
And I'll never forget when I was deployed out to the line fire. You showed up with a bottle of a one sauce because you knew that I love having that a one sauce. And thank you for knowing that about me, and thank you for all of your years of advocacy on this floor.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, doctor Banes. Assembly member Ta, you are recognized.
- Tri Ta
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Wow. I'm really, really, I'm really emotional. Yeah. And Aye, it's been my honor to work with you for the last four years.
- Tri Ta
Legislator
You like my mentor, and I really appreciate your passion. I really believe your strong commitment, your courage for always standing up for what you believe. And you are the man of honesty. So I learned a lot about you. I learned a lot from you, and I appreciate you.
- Tri Ta
Legislator
I appreciate for your strong commitment, for your strength, for your passion. You always stand up for our state, for our community, for our children. So I appreciate you, and then I really wish you the best, Tom. Thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Tas. Assemblymember Gibson, you are recognized.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
Thank you very much, mister speaker. I just wanted to add my comments with everyone else, with the chorus, of everyone else's voice. Tom, you came in with with me into class 2014. So we represent the class 2014, so I wanted to rise. I see member Gallagher has also rise raised his microphone up.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
So on 2014, also being a police officer, wanna thank you for your years of service, but also every time that we would see each other, I just picked up Howdy Howdy. That's what he would always that's what you would always say, Howdy Howdy. And I appreciate your humility, and also your ability to, one, men can cry. And it's okay that you feel a sense of not only your compassion, but it's also your emotion.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
And it's okay to show your emotions as who you are, on this floor because that's who you are.
- Mike Gipson
Legislator
And I appreciate you being your authentic self on this floor and letting people know that you are former law enforcement, but also as a state assembly member because it's what you believe in and also the God that's inside you. And I wanna say it's a privilege to serve with you on this floor for the last twelve years. Thank you very much for your service.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Gibson, Assemblymember's zBur, you're recognized.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
I didn't wanna let this day pass, especially given, really, I think the the amazing comments people have made about you, but I just wanted to let you know that I have valued being able to get to know you, had the opportunity and the honor to serve with you on the public safety committee and other committees. And even though we disagreed at times, we agreed at times as well.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
One of the things I always appreciated about you was the fact that everything you did was based upon principle and what you thought was right and good for the people of the state of California. And and always, you always treated all of your colleagues on both sides of the aisle with respect and kindness. And so for that, I appreciate it.
- Rick Chavez Zbur
Legislator
I'm gonna miss you in this body, and I'm glad that we'll be seeing you in the next part of the session. So thank you.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Zbor. Assemblymember Bauer Kehan, you are recognized.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
Thank you. I'll be brief because mister Lachy isn't actually going anywhere for a little while. But I did wanna add the chorus because I think that I am your most unlikely partner, not the member from Baldwin Park. But I too came in and served on public safety for, I think, three years with the assembly member. And there was a lot of times we disagreed, but we always agreed about one thing, that we cared about the people.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
And I will never forget sitting through, I think it was eight hours of testimony on police use of force. Went through lunch and you didn't move. You listened to every single person who wanted to come talk to that committee. And that is who you are and that is who you've been. And I think it is something that we should all model.
- Rebecca Bauer-Kahan
Legislator
And just recently, you changed your vote in committee after listening to me. And your ability to listen and care deeply about the outcome is what makes you such an incredible public servant. So I wanna thank you for that.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Bauer Kehan. Boy, you're popular. Assembly member Pellerin, you are recognized.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I just wanna say that we are here as our title as state assembly member, but people often refer to us as honorable. And you truly embody that word, honorable. You everything you do is so transparent. Your your love for democracy.
- Gail Pellerin
Legislator
I I question your taste in music, and we are divided when it comes to the banana slug. But whenever I have tough decisions to make, I often think to myself, what would Tom Lackey do? So thank you so much for your leadership. I love you. Be well.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Pellerin, Assemblymember Jeff Gonzales, you are recognized.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
There's a tradition in the military, so I've adapted it a little bit for Tom.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
For twenty eight years, this officer stood the watch While families across California laid down to sleep at night, he pinned down he pinned down the badge of the highway patrol and stayed awake to keep our roads safe. While some were in school learning their trades, he was out on the asphalt protecting our communities, shielding the vulnerable, and holding the line for public safety. Many times, he cast an eye towards home and saw his own family standing there.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
They needed his hand to hold during hard times, his guidance and his presence. But he knew his duty.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
He knew his responsibility to the people of the High Desert and the Antelope Valley. And so he stood the watch. Then when many would have chosen a well earned rest, he answered a new call. For twelve more years, this leader stood the watch in the halls of our state capitol, in the policy rooms, and on the assembly floor. He stood up for our children, fought for our special needs community, and championed the safety of every Californian.
- Jeff Gonzalez
Legislator
He brought the grit of a highway patrolman and the heart of a teacher to the governance of our great state. For four decades, Tom Lackey stood the watch so that his fellow citizens could live, work, and raise their families in peace and safety. Today, as this legislative term draws too close to a close, we gather to say, assemblyman, officer, leader, the watch stands relieved. Relieved by those you have mentored, those you have guided, and those you have inspired. Tom, you stand relieved.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Jeff Gonzalez. Last but not least by the way, this is a support support bill. Assemblymember Gallagher, you are recognized.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Yeah. Thank you. I I didn't know we were gonna be doing this today. And and Tom will be back, because he is such an effective legislator that, the bill passing today and the other bills are going to be coming back here, and then I hope you guys do that again for him. But this may be my last opportunity, and so I just wanted to say landslide lackey.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
That's how I know you. And I always tell him that. And that and the story behind that is if you didn't know this, Tom was one of our top targets. And in his first reelect, you know, there was all this like, oh, man, you know, Tom's gonna have a tough race and, you know, he might not be back here. And, he won so big that I I I called him landslide lackey.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
You know, I can't remember the exact, but it was over 10 points. But, you know, he's the most steady guy. He's the heart of our caucus, always. And Tom, I've I can't imagine having another guy that I go through twelve years of this with. Thank you for just your integrity, your honesty.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
The reason why so many Democrats here have said you're your secret partners because you're one of the most effective legislators on the Republican side. And you you find ways to get things done, and you find partners, and you pass good legislation. And this place is better off because you've been here. But thank you also just for the many, many times that you've given me encouragement when I needed it.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
And, you know, the last the last two of the Republican caucus of twenty fourteen team, I just truly appreciate you, friend, and wish you all the best, and more to come.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Gallagher, seeing here no further debate. Assembly member Lackey, do you wish to close? Yeah.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
I hate that I'm emotional. I think I'm in control and then all of a sudden I'm not. But I want to tell you all something that I am overwhelmed at this level of response, And I love this institution, and I love most of you. But I want you to know that I never in my life imagined that I'd have this privilege. I might not be alone on that, but I never I really, really never thought that I would last twelve years, ever.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
God has a personality too, and I'm thankful for that. And I'm thankful for all of you because we have a very unique privilege. I've never had a
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
job where everybody spoon feeds me. We have staff, but it's they're the unsung heroes, man. So thankful for what they do. And I think sometimes we might take them for granted. And I hope that you will repent for that if you're guilty of that.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
But I just wanna say thank you. Thank you all because this experience has made me a better person. Sorry. Contorted face is bad. But I will tell you this, anything that makes you try to walk in someone else's shoes is a good thing.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
And this job forces me to do that. I wouldn't do that on my own. I wouldn't have done and thought the things I've thought unless I had this responsibility. Half a million people trust us. I'm overwhelmed by that thought and I hope you are too.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
I'm just thankful because I'm thankful that you all understand and I'm so thankful that so many of you did stand up because it reminds me that we have work to do and we can do it together and we can disagree, man. We it's okay. But don't hate, man. Don't hate those who have a different life experience. Don't hate someone who needs your help, maybe.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
Maybe that's what they need. And that's my goal is that I might be able to at least have some influence for good because the only reason I am standing here before you is because of influencers. I was a spoiled young man. I didn't think so living in a desert town of 3,000, but I was spoiled because people invested in me all my life. And too many of our people, many of you have not had that luxury.
- Tom Lackey
Legislator
I'm going on too long, but I'm so thankful for all of you. Thank you for giving me this privilege, and God bless us all. And don't forget, it's better to be lacky than good. And please vote for this meaningful bill.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Lackey. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Clerk will close the roll. Tally votes, aye 64, no zero. Measure passes.
- Josh Lowenthal
Legislator
Members, we still have a significant amount of business to get through, so I'm gonna ask everybody to get focused here. We're gonna lift the call on file item numbern 8, please. Clerk will post. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
The clerk will close the roll and tally the votes. Ayes 41, noes 22. The measure passes. File item 13, everybody. File item 13. That is AB 2676 by Assemblymember Gallagher, the quick vote for me.
- Committee Secretary
Person
Assembly Bill 2676 by Assemblymember Gallagher and others, an act relating to land use.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Okay. We're gonna pass temporarily on file item 13. Excuse me. Mr. Reading Clerk, we're gonna pass temporarily. We're gonna go to file item 28.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
File item 28. That's AB 2242 by Assembly member Davies. The clerk will read.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Assembly bill 2242 by Assembly member Davies, an act about pupil safety.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Members, today I'm here to present AB 2242. AB 2242's a common sense build to require schools to have informational posters that contain critical information for students and families on how to combat any sextortion schemes they may find themselves in. This bill passed committee unanimously, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Davies. All debate happens. Cease clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll. Tally votes, ayes 61, no zero. The measure passes.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Now we're gonna do file item number 13. That is Assembly bill 2676 by Assembly member Gallagher. The clerk will read.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Assembly bill 2676 by Assembly member Gallagher and others, an act related to land use.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. This is a support support bill that strengthens the housing crisis act, and I ask for your support. Thank you.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Gallagher. Assembly member Rogers, you are recognized.
- Chris Rogers
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise in, respectful opposition to AB 2676. In my district, we have many communities that have both received the pro housing designation and also by voter initiatives have enabled urban growth boundaries and community separators. My concern on this bill is that it would take away the will of the voters to not not allow you to do less housing, but to dictate when and where that housing should be placed.
- Chris Rogers
Legislator
Particularly, when we talk about wildland urban interfaces, when we talk about ecologically sensitive areas, I would hate to take that away from voters to be able to weigh in on those opportunities.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Rogers. Assemblymember Hart, you are recognized.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
I I just asked the question. Do we really want to strip away the people's right to vote on a referendum? At its core, this bill is not just about housing. It's about whether the people of California retain the right to challenge local land use decisions through the referendum process, a right that has existed in California for more than a century. California's referendum power referendum power is not a procedural technicality.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
It's a constitutional safeguard. It exists because we understand that local elected officials do not always get every decision right. And when communities believe a decision was made without sufficient transparency, accountability, or public support, voters have the ability to step in directly. AB 2676 moves us in the wrong direction by weakening that fundamental Democratic principle. Let's be clear.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
California absolutely needs housing. We need more affordable housing. We need workforce housing. We need infill housing near jobs in transit, and we should continue working aggressively to streamline good projects that meet community needs. But housing production cannot come at the expense of public trust.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Over the past several years, this legislature has enacted sweeping state preemptions over local land use authority. AB 2676 goes a giant step further. It says that even when local residents organize, gather signatures, and seek a public vote on a controversial project, the state legislature should intervene and prevent that vote from happening. That is a profound undemocratic shift. Supporters argue that Referenda can delay projects.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
That's true. Democracy sometimes takes time. Public participation can be messy, but inconvenience is not a justification for limiting constitutional rights. We can build housing and still respect democracy. We can streamline housing and still preserve public accountability, and we can address California's housing crisis without telling voters that their constitutional rights must take a back seat.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Hart. Assemblymember Patterson, you are recognized.
- Joe Patterson
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. We weren't gonna let our friend, from Nicholas move on in this world without a little fight. So, so I'm I'm personally enjoying this, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Patterson, seeing and hearing no further debate, Assembly member Gallagher, do you wish to close?
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I guess I was mistaken about it being a support support. I I do have bipartisan support for this bill and and I respectfully, you know, hear the concerns of of the opposition here on the floor today. I did actually, you know, Assemblymember Bennett and I worked on some language that we did make amendments to make it very clear that this would not apply to sprawl, to projects that are outside the scope of a general plan and zoning.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
What this is really trying to do is clarify that housing crisis act that many of us supported.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
It was very bipartisan support to establish that when we have planned, when our elect the people that we've elected to local office have planned for housing and our general plan and our and our our zoning have created a density requirement and housing, and housing that needs to be built in this community that we don't allow that to be undermined. And that can include sometimes, referendums, you know, that are driven by nimbyism to stop housing that a community has already decided that they need.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
We have made it very clear with those amendments, by the way, that this would again, would not apply where that is not the case. Where where we're talking about taking agricultural lands or conservation lands and trying to make that into housing, after the fact, then that would not apply and and a referendum initiative could be employed in that time.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
But if you've already established that, that you're going to build housing and for the for the next generation, for that community, that it can't be undermined in that way.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
This has also been supported by several, by court cases, including a recent case involving the city of Oceanside. So I would ask for your support. I think it's a much needed clarification of the housing crisis act that makes it stronger for all of us, and I'd ask for your support. Thank you.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Gallagher. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally to vote. aye forty one, no ten, the measure passes. Madam majority leader, you're recognized for your procedural motion.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Yes, mister speaker. At the request of the author, please move file item 53, AB 2095, Lee to the inactive file.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Clerk will note. Okay. Members, we are going to skip ahead. Mister Gallagher, we still need you. We are going to skip ahead to the Senate third reading file.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
We're gonna take on file item number 69. That's SCR 156 by Senator Dahle, presented by assembly member Gallagher. The clerk will read.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Senate Concurrent Resolution 156 by Senator Dahle and others relative to National Stroke Awareness Month.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise today to present SCR 156 156, which declares May as stroke awareness month. This resolution was introduced by my colleague in the North State Senator Megan Dailey After suffering from a stroke over two years ago, she aims to elevate stroke awareness and bring attention to aphasia which impacts language and speech.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
And I gotta tell you just as someone who's watched this woman and everything that she and her family have gone through over these last two years, she is truly amazing. Coming from a hospital bed where her family really worried that whether she would make it back.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Man, this is an emotional day. A lot of prayers prayed over her and and she came back to this body. She fought back. It has the will, the iron will. And came back to this body and and as you know, continues to represent her people so ably and so well.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
And her actions speak so much louder than words in the way that she represents and and continues to serve her community. And she wants to bring awareness to this so that others will know about this and will be able to respond in turn. One in three Americans cannot name any of the signs or symptoms of a stroke, and more than one half of Americans do not know if they are at risk for a stroke.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Senator Dolly and myself would like to urge every American to reduce their risk of stroke by recognizing the warning signs such as loss of balance, speech difficulty, and drooping of the face, and vision loss or double vision. At the first signs of stroke, dial 911 immediately because it can improve you or your loved one's chance of recovery.
- James Gallagher
Legislator
I wanna thank Senator Dolly, who I admire and I'm proud to serve with, and for her efforts in introducing this important resolution, and I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Gallagher. Assemblymember Hadwick, you are recognized.
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Today, during stroke awareness month, I wanna take a moment to recognize Senator Dally, who has shown incredible strength, faith, resilience, and leadership. Continued to serve the people of Northern California with grace and determination, but she's also become a powerful example of why women, especially moms and working women, need to take our health seriously and speak up when something doesn't feel right. First, our kids, our families, our jobs, our communities, and convince ourselves that we'll slow down.
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
Days are long. The stress is real, and many of us push through exhaustion because it's just what women do. But Meghan's experience also highlighted the very real healthcare challenges we face in rural California. Access to specialists, emergency
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
care, and timely care, and timely treatment can look very different in our communities. And those delays can make all the difference during a medical emergency like a stroke. I'm incredibly proud of Meghan for not only fighting through recovery with strength and determination, but also for using her voice to encourage other women to prioritize their health, pay attention to warning signs, and take care of themselves.
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
Her advocacy is already making a huge difference, and I know her story will inspire countless others to listen to their bodies and seek care when they need it. Leadership.
- Heather Hadwick
Legislator
We are so grateful for you and proud to stand beside you. I respectfully ask for your aye vote for our friend, Senator Dally.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Hadwick. Assembly member Berman, you are recognized.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you, mister speaker, and and thank you to my colleagues who brought this forward and, you know, the the rightful, recognition of Senator Dally who who is an amazing colleague, was an amazing colleague in the assembly and is a wonderful Senator. I didn't I didn't know this was coming up, and I I I'm glad I heard it. I'm glad I was in the room.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
Strokes can can can afflict younger people, and I didn't realize that until my wedding day when one of my best friends from childhood didn't show up at the wedding and didn't show up at the wedding with another best friend's suit.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
He was supposed to bring my buddy's suit, and he didn't show up. And all of a sudden, we we got on the phone. We we didn't realize, but two days before, he'd had a stroke. He was 39 years old. He was in incredibly good health.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
And he was paralyzed initially for for half his body. And he was lucky that he had great health care and lucky that that he had the ability to go through months and months and months and months and months of physical therapy and occupational therapy and all the therapies. But but it was terrifying to me. I didn't realize that younger people had strokes. So it it's something that we all need to really be aware of.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
We all need to know the signs. Like like my colleague said, the more people who are aware of it, the more people who can you know, if if your friend or or a total stranger is suffering from a stroke. I worked for a US Senator who had a stroke on a conference call. And and luckily, there were other people who were on the call and recognized that something bad was happening.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
But for people to recognize that and get that person help as quickly as possible can be the difference between life or death.
- Marc Berman
Legislator
So I wanna thank my colleagues for bringing this forward. Definitely wanna, recognize Senator Dolly and wanna urge your aye vote on SCR 156.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assemblymember Berman. Seeing and hearing no further debate, Assemblymember Gallagher, do you wish to close?
- James Gallagher
Legislator
Yes. Thank you members, and I thank you for the comments of my colleagues here. And would certainly request that the role be open for co authors. Thank you.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Gallagher. The Assemblymember has asked for the first role to be open for open for co authors. Clerk will open the role. All members vote who desire to vote. This is for co authors.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll, tally the votes. There are 69 co authors added. Without objection, we'll take a voice vote on the resolution.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All those in favor, say aye. All those opposed, no. The ayes have it. The resolution is adopted. Just a moment members.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Members, let's take your desks. We're ready to work. Please report to your desk. Please report to the floor. Thank you, members.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Let's go. Okay, file item number 49. File item 49. That is AB 1758 by Assemblymember Nguyen.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Assembly Bill 1758 by Assemblymember Nguyen, an act relating to sellers of travel, to take effect immediately, tax levy.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, if you use a travel agency, and I'm not quite sure how many of you use a travel agency, but this, for the first time ever, I'm presenting a bill where the industry themselves are asking to increase a fee, a fee that they would pay to be able to increase a consumer protection program. Let me say that again. It's a consumer protection program.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
Simply put, if you came to me as a travel agency for service to book your flights, your hotel, or whatnot, and for whatever reason there was fraud, insolvency, or the business closed, this fund would reimburse you the service that you did not receive and that you paid me for.
- Stephanie Nguyen
Legislator
Very simply put, currently right now, the fee is only $35 a year. They are asking to increase their fees to $60 a year, $60 a year, so that they can then make sure this consumer protection program is funded for consumers. There is no opposition on this bill. This bill is being brought up by the travel agency themselves.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Nguyen. Seeing and hearing no further debate, the clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
The clerk will close the roll and tally the votes. Ayes 55, noes 14. The measure passes.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
I appreciate your patience so much. We are going to start by lifting the call. Mister Calra has asked to lift the call on file item number 23, the clerk will post. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. Mr. Calra has asked to move the call. File item number 6. Item number 6 1974.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Get through our remaining business members, quorum. Thank you, members. Assembly member Tonki Pah, you are recognized.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. And first and foremost, I not only wanna thank you, mister speaker, but I wanna spay thank the speaker of the assembly as well for allowing me to bring this bill up because I believe that it is something of extreme importance. And I know that this is a 54 vote bill as well, but it is a very simple bill. AB 1560 is a declaration that corruption will not be welcomed here in the state of California.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
This is a very straightforward government accountability bill.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
And right now in the State of California, if you are an elected official and you are convicted of corruption, you are no longer allowed to run for office, but you can influence the government. We have worked with the secretary of State's office to even amend this bill to a twelve year ban for any lobbyist that has been convicted of corruption. You are not welcome into the halls of California.
- David Tangipa
Legislator
This bill is a support support bill, and I ask that all of you join me in making the declaration that corruption is not welcome in the state of California, I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member, Tangipa. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. Members, this is a 54 vote bill.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. So member Tangipa, you are recognized.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Tangipa, let's move the call. File item 22. That is AB 1863 by Assemblymember De Maio, the Clerk will read.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Assembly bill 1863 by Assemblymember De Maio, an act relating to fire protection districts.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Assemblymember De Maio, you are recognized. Just a moment, Mr. De Maio. Thank you, members. Assembly member De Maio, you are recognized.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. And members, I do appreciate the opportunity to present AB 1863 that will ensure that local governments cannot charge citizens simply for dialing 911. This bill came up in response to a local government that announced they would be charging fees for 911 calls, and it created a lot of confusion. And that local government did clarify that they would only charge if a service was rendered.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
Californians all deserve the right the right to know that they do not have to worry about paying a penalty or a charge simply if they dial 911 and inquire for assistance.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
Now let me make it quite clear. The language in this bill specifically allows local governments to still be able to charge fees if aid is rendered so that they can recoup any associated costs with services provided. The bill has had no no votes. I will continue to work with all stakeholders if the bill goes to the Senate and bring it back, and I respectfully ask an aye vote on AB 1863.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember De Maio. Assemblymember Rogers, you are recognized.
- Chris Rogers
Legislator
Thanks so much, mister speaker. I rise in respectful opposition to AB 1863. I'm particularly concerned about the impact that this will have on fire districts in rural communities where we have already stretched thin budgets and people, personnel that can't keep up with the demand. The definition of emergency services is overly broad in this bill that makes it difficult for them to do cost recovery on the services that are rendered. So I respectfully ask for a no vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Rogers. Assembly member Ward, you are recognized.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
for presentation? Yes. To my colleague from our hometown of San Diego, yes. This is the first and only bill that I have brought forward to this floor, and I do appreciate the opportunity.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Well, I also appreciate the opportunity you came over to walk through the merits of the bill. I think we share a lot of comment for our concerns, particularly for the East County San Diego neighborhoods. And I I think that you have a lot of thought put into this bill, and I'm happy to be able to support it today.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you. Assembly member Ward. Assembly member Ransom, you are recognized.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I just wanted to rise. As chair of emergency management, we worked with the author and his team to remove, ambiguity from the bill that would create a situation where folks didn't know if they could charge reimbursement for, responding to calls. And so, with that being said, I appreciate that the author has offered to continue to work with stakeholders who put in late opposition just a few days ago.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
So we do appreciate and respect their concerns, but I do appreciate that the author has been willing to work with us and I'll respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember Ransom. Assemblymember Wilson, you are recognized.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Hi. Thank you, mister speaker. I just have a question for the author in regard to this. Given that there has been late opposition and, so I would like you to respond specifically about what you committed to with that opposition in regard to fixing the bill, as well as noting that when a, emergency service is called and actually, arrives at the location that is providing a level service, and how does your bill actually address that? You can respond now or at your close.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Seeing and hearing no further debate, Assemblymember De Maio, you may close.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker, and thank you for the members. I we did note the late opposition and were kind of blindsided and surprised by it. However, we want to make sure that any service provided by our local governments can be a cost recovery service if the local government chooses to charge a fee. We are welcome to continue to, take input. And as we go to the Senate if we do go to the Senate, there will be an opportunity for refinements.
- Carl DeMaio
Legislator
I wanna make sure that this does not handicap our local governments in cost recovery. That is an absolute legitimate, way to finance our emergency response, programs. However, we need to make sure that people are not deterred from making a 911 call, for the fear that they may be charged some sort of fee by the local government. If a service is provided, a cost recovery absolutely should be allowed under this bill, and I commit to making sure that that language is clarified if necessary.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Thank you, Assemblymember De Maio. All debate having ceased, clerk will open the roll. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
ask the clerk to lift the call on file item six. Clerk will post. All those vote who desire to vote? All those vote who desire to vote?
- Chris Ward
Legislator
the roll tally of the votes. aye 56, no zero. Bill is passed. Members, we are gonna go to the second day consent calendar. We will first take item 70 up for the consent calendar for the purpose of adding coauthors.
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Person
Assembly Concurrent Resolution two zero nine by Assembly member El Harawi relative to behavioral health awareness month.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Clerk will now open the role to allow any member to add on as a co author to the resolution. All those wishing to be co authors, please vote. Members, this is for co authors. All those for co authors, please vote. Clerk will close the roll.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
There are 60 co authors. We're gonna move to a vote on the consent calendar. Does any member wish to remove an item the from the consent calendar? Okay. Seeing none, where the clerk will read the second day consent calendar.
- Committee Secretary
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Assembly Concurrent Resolution 209 by Assembly member Elhawary relative to behavioral health awareness month.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Clerk will open the roll on the consent calendar. All members vote who desire to vote. All members vote who desire to vote. Members for consent calendar. All members vote who desire to vote. Clerk will close the roll to tally the votes. Aye 65, no zero. The consent calendar is adopted. Clerk will read read the remaining items on the consent calendar.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Right. At the request of Mr. Caller, we're gonna lift, lift the call on file item 23, clerk will post. All those vote who desire to vote? All those vote who desire to vote? Clerk will
- Chris Ward
Legislator
close the roll tally the votes. Ayes 35, noes 22. Measure fails. Okay. Members, next, we are moving forward to file item number 56 by miss Johnson.
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Assembly bill 2497 by Assembly member Johnson an act related to healing arts .
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise to present AB 2497. It's a bill to bring California into alignment with 20 other states on physical therapy issues by modernizing our physical therapy practice act. I'm looking forward to meaningful conversations, with the opposition in the Senate, and I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, Senator Johnson. Senator Lee, you're recognized on the measure.
- Alex Lee
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise in respectful opposition to this bill on behalf of the API caucus. This is a bill that is not just scope encroachment, but also cultural approachment. This bill started as an approach encroachment on on acupuncture, which is a field dominant Eastern Chinese medicine, and there has been attempts over the years to try to appropriate Chinese culture and Chinese medicine into dry needling. Now today, the language is ambiguous about electrode needle tissue puncture.
- Alex Lee
Legislator
And so I think this is a bill that is not necessary, and we should trust in the acupuncture or professional to get these, medical treatments done. Presently ask your aye vote. Presently ask your no vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Lee. Senator Maritucci, you're recognized on the bill.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
Bert? Thank you very much. I also rise in respectful opposition. Let me first state that that, you know, I have nothing against the physical therapist. I I love my physical therapist.
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
The issue here is the the the the needling issue. You know, I I I know that this was raised at the appropriations committee. However, it's my understanding that there's still some kind of a electro needling that
- Al Muratsuchi
Legislator
That, you know, my acupuncturist community is is still telling me that this is disrespecting three thousand years of traditional Chinese acupuncture medicine. And for that reason, I'll be posting the bill.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Maritucci. And Assemblymember Fong, you're recognized on the bill.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. I rise in respectful opposition of Assembly Bill 2497, and thank you to the author. We've had, conversations as well on this. And in terms of the concerns, in terms of the dry needling, we have concerns also about the electrode needles, penetrating tissues for diagnosis.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
But to echo the my colleagues from the San Jose area and the South Bay Of Los Angeles, A number of our colleagues still have a number of concerns around the dry needling aspect and making sure that it does not impact the work of acupuncture.
- Mike Fong
Legislator
So with that, I will respectfully oppose the bill today. Thank you.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, mister Fong. And Assemblywoman Colosa, you're recognized on the measure.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. First, I wanna thank the author for her work on this. I rise in opposition to this bill. This is an API caucus priority bill opposing this. Unfortunately, during the business and professions committee, hundreds of acupuncturists from the Asian American community woke up really early, took the bus, and came and opposed this bill.
- Jessica Caloza
Legislator
Unfortunately, I know a lot of their concerns are still not addressed. I respect the author and her work on this, but respectfully ask for everyone's no vote on this today. Thank you.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, miss Colosa. Seeing no other members wishing to speak on the measure, Assemblymember Johnson, you may close.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Thank you, mister speaker. Yes. I wanna thank my colleagues for their comments. And I think it's really important that we're clear here. I have had so many conversations on the floor, and it is in it is absolutely vital that we clear up one component.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
As amended, this bill has nothing to do with dry needling. You did hear my colleague say that it was amended in appropriation, but what's more what what needs to be explicit is every single reference to solid filiform needles for treatment has been completely removed. So while I understand that there is a lot of opposition, I also say that I I have been very respectful in making sure that all of my conversations have treaded lightly, especially because of the cultural references that were brought up in committee.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
I have the deepest appreciation for the culture. The only remaining needle language simply restates existing law, which allows physical therapists to lose to use what you heard, electrode needles for diagnostic testing for evaluation, not treatment.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
I worked exhaustively with the chair for business and professions and his committee, And that was cited as existing law. Not new law, not something this bill, but what is existing and approved in law. The needle debate is settled. It is out of this bill. To get to this point, we have gone through six amendments, including the just the one last week.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
I have listened to all of you. I have listened to every piece of feedback to get this right. I've worked directly with you. We've had lots of consultations. Especially, I wanna thank the chair of BNP and his committee and the staff, my staff, the sponsor.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
I've had conversations as you heard with the chair of the API Legislative Caucus. We've had conversations with acupuncturists, CMA, who's here today in the gallery with us, radiologists, pharmacists, and every other stakeholder who cares about this issue. We've stripped out imaging. We've stripped out prescriptive authority for non opioid drugs, and now we've stripped out dry needling. With those issues completely off the table, what's left in this bill is a modest modernization of physical therapy scope.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
California is currently grappling with a severe shortage in physical therapists. We are training physical therapist students in our CSU's campuses, private university, but we're losing them to states like Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona where they actually are allowed to use the full range of their skills. The core of this bill removes this is the part everybody's concerned with. The core of this bill removes the arbitrary forty five day or twelve visit limit for direct patient access.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Currently, patients are forced to put the recovery on hold to get a physician sign off just to underscore continue a care plan that's already working.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
So guys, I can continue to talk. I know that, it's late and everybody wants to wrap this up. But this is a really extremely important topic to me. And as you know, I don't raise my mic or even speak on the floor very often. So I would really appreciate if I had your attention while we wrap this up.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Under current law, if a person had a back injury, a real and and I will tell you this came from our local government committee staff member. He has a back injury, severe lower back pain. He finds a physical therapist, which he did. He starts treatment. And then that treatment is working well enough that he can put it on pause, and he did.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
He continued his recovery outside the clinic, but a month later, he suffers a sudden flare up, which he did. Under current law, because he's outside of the arbitrary forty five day window, he can't go back to his physical therapist. He was forced to wait two full months to get an appointment with his primary care physician for a referral for something that was already working. By the time he finally gets back into physical therapy, his condition has severely regressed.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
The delay is completely avoidable, and it's a consequence of our restricted access.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
Patient safety does remain top priority. I've heard all of your concerns about the issue in almost every conversation I've had with members on this floor. That's why I wanna underscore that a v twenty four ninety seven explicitly requires physical therapists to refer refer a patient, to a physician or a specialist if their condition is beyond the PT scope of training. Finally, the bill proposes a modest increase to the supervisor to assistant ratio from one to two to one to three.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
This simple change will help clinics manage overwhelming demand and significantly reduce wait times for everyday California Californians.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
My apologies. This bill is about making our health care system more efficient, ensuring Californians have the same access to care that all our neighboring states already enjoy, and 20 others 21 other states and all our surrounding states. Every single district represented on this floor in California is home to physical therapists and physical therapy patients. This is an issue that affects all of our constituents. This bill is not about giving physical therapists a massive scope of practice enhancement.
- Natasha Johnson
Legislator
It's simply about moving to a model of direct access that nearly two dozen states already follow with no increase of malpractice claims or insurance premiums. I really want to just thank all the conversations I've had. I wanna thank those that have committed to support. Your word has meant a lot to me. I continue to look forward to off position conversations in the Senate.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, miss Johnson. The court will open the roll. All those vote who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Miss Johnson? Miss Johnson moves the call. Members, we're gonna lift the call on file 22, clerk will post. All those vote who desire to vote. All those vote who desire to vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Clerk will close roll, tally votes. Aye is 39, aye is 38, no is four. The measure fails. Members, we're gonna lift the file, call on file item 56, clerk will post. All those vote who desire to vote.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
All those vote who desire to vote? All those vote who desire to vote? Circle closer, will tally votes. Ayes 26, noes 19, the measure fails.
- Cecilia Aguiar-Curry
Legislator
Members, we have completed 47 items today. We have survived our house of origin deadline and are able to be wrapped up this afternoon. I wanna thank you all for your hard work and patience during these long days, and, let's take this all back on on Monday. Thank you.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
Okay. We are moving on to announcement session schedule as follows. Friday, May 29, no floor session, no check-in session. Monday, June 1, floor session at 1PM. All other remaining items will be passed and retained.
- Robert Rivas
Legislator
All motions shall be continued. Seeing and hearing no further business, I'm ready to entertain a motion to adjourn. Majority leader, Agar Curry, moves and mister Lackey Seconds that this house stands adjourned till Monday, June 1 at 1PM. Quorum call is lifted and we are adjourned. Vote changes from the dais.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change, assembly member Gibson, assembly bill 2461, aye to not voting.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change, Assembly Member Connally, Assembly Bill 2711, aye to not voting.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change, Assembly member Pellerin, Assembly bill 1722, aye to not voting.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change, Assemblymember Patterson, Assembly Bill 2676, I to not voting.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Assemblymember, Papin, AB 1958, changing from aye to not voting.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change. Assembly member Papan, assembly vote nineteen fifty eight, aye to not voting.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change. Assembly member Chiavo, Assembly vote nineteen fifty eight, aye to not voting.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change, assembly member Ortega. Assembly bill 2711, aye to not voting.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
76. Assembly member ransom, vote change. Assembly bill 2676. I to not voting.
- Reading Clerk
Person
Vote change, Assembly member ransom. Assembly bill 2676, aye to not voting.
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