Assembly Standing Committee on Transportation
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Before we start, is Allison Lyman in the room? Okay. Thank you. We just wanted to make sure you're here so we can go to you at the appropriate time. Alrighty.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Now we can't see TVs. Is that intentional? Are they off? Okay. Do we do do we wait or but it is being there oop-- There we go. Wonderful. Okay. Alright. The Assembly Transportation Committee is called to order.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Good--is it afternoon or evening? I'm gonna go with evening. Good evening, everyone. Welcome. The hearing room is open for attendees, and it can be watched from a livestream on the Assembly website.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
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- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We encourage the public to provide written testimony by visiting the committee website. Please note that any written testimony submitted to the committee is considered public comment and may be read into the record or reprinted.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We will allow two minutes each for two primary witnesses in support and opposition of the bill. As a reminder, primary witnesses in support must be those accompanying the author or who otherwise have registered a support position with the committee. And primary witnesses and opposition must have their opposition registered with the committee. All other support and opposition can be stated at the standing mic when called upon to simply state your name excuse me the affiliation and position. With that, we will begin our hearing.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Noticing a lack of a quorum, we will start as a subcommittee. We have 13 bills on our proposed consent calendar. File items 4, 7, 9, 10, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25. I'll read those in detail when we do have a quorum. We will be discussing 11 bills today.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We will not be hearing file Item 14, SB 1292, Richardson. With that, we do have an author present. We typically go in file-item order. However, if an author is not present, we do skip the roll, so please note that. We have Senator Blakespear here. You may begin. You have three bills Bbfore this committee. File item one, SB 569. File item two, SB 741. File item three, SB 1161.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We did note that file item four, SB 1324 is on consent. With that, you may begin at your convenience.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Well, good evening, Chair and colleagues. Thank you to the Chair and committee staff for your work on this bill. Every year, Californians are seriously injured or killed while walking and biking on our roadways. In 2023 alone, more than 1,250 Californians walking or biking were killed. In the aftermath of these tragedies, many communities have responded by installing and upgrading protected bikeways to improve physical separation and sight lines.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
SB 569 would protect cyclists and pedestrians by prohibiting removal or changes to bikeways in ways that reduce safety, accessibility, or mobility for cyclists and pedestrians. For the last two decades, California has increasingly recognized that slower streets and roads designed for all users, not just drivers, are safer for everyone. That commitment is reflected in billions of dollars of state investment in bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure, including a $ billion general fund augmentation to the Active Transportation Program, ATP, in 2022.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
A key part of this effort is improving cyclist safety. A key part of improving cyclist safety has been funding for protected bikeways that physically separate people riding bicycles from two ton vehicles.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Yet we have seen instances where communities have considered removing or downgrading protected bikeways after they have already been built. I've witnessed two cities in my district go through this process, and there are other examples from throughout the state. Most recently, the city of Encinitas has directed staff to evaluate removing portions of a barrier protected bikeway in favor of a painted bike lane and wider, faster car lanes. The project was constructed predominantly using state general fund grant money.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Under California's Active Transportation Program, ATP, bikeways funded through the program are already protected from being converted to non-active transportation uses for twenty years or their useful life, whichever is less.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
This standard makes sense as and is in line with other state programs. For example, if a project uses state money to construct affordable housing, new city leadership can't come in, rip out the affordable housing, and zone for McMansions. The state has a statewide interest in ensuring that California's roads are getting progressively safer. SB 569 would apply a similar standard to bikeways that are constructed with State General Fund Dollars as already applies to projects constructed with ATP or Active Transportation Program dollars.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
This ensures that taxpayer funded safety improvements continue to serve the purpose for which they were funded.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
The bill would also require a public meeting and hearing before significant modifications are approved. This gives community members an opportunity to evaluate how changes would impact their safety and mobility and weigh in before a decision is made. As amended, SB 569 reflects a simple principle. When we invest public dollars in infrastructure to save lives and protect road users, those safety improvements should not be undone without good reason and without assurance that the safety of cyclists and pedestrians won't be compromised.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
With me today in support, I have Kendra Ramsey on behalf of the California Bicycle Coalition and Casey Gupta, a bicycle advocate.
- Casey Gupta
Person
Chair and members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today. My name is Casey Gupta, and I'm a high school student in San Diego County. I'm here today in strong support of SB 569. Part of the reason I'm here is that about a year ago, the Encinitas City Council voted to remove a protected bike lane right down the street from my school on Santa Fe Drive. That decision made this issue feel incredibly real to me.
- Casey Gupta
Person
It affects whether students like me feel safe biking to school, local businesses, to transit, or around our community. Santa Fe Drive also has a painful history. Before protected bike lanes were installed, 14 year old Ryan Huang was tragically struck and killed on that very street in 2007. I mentioned Ryan's story respectfully because it shows why safety improvements like this matter. Protected bikeways are not just lines on a map or a nice extra feature.
- Casey Gupta
Person
They're often built in response to real danger, real crashes, and real lives lost. When a protected bike lane is removed or weakened, it doesn't just change the street design. It changes whether people feel safe enough to bike at all. For students, that can mean losing the ability to bike independently in our own community. It pushes people away from active transportation and into cars, which means more traffic, more pollution, and fewer choices.
- Casey Gupta
Person
That's why SB 569 is so important. If a bikeway is built using state dollars, it should not be casually reverted to a non-active transportation use or modified in a way that reduces the safety, accessibility, or mobility of people walking and biking. Public investments in safety should protect people for the life of the project. This bill doesn't just stop cities from ever making changes. It simply says that those changes should remain consistent with active transportation and go through a transparent public process.
- Casey Gupta
Person
That's a reasonable standard especially when the infrastructure exists to protect people. California should be building safer streets and expanding transportation's choices, not removing infrastructure that protects students and families. As a high school student, I want to grow up in a state where biking to school and around my community is normal, safe, and accessible. Thank you for the opportunity to testify.
- Kendra Ramsey
Person
Good afternoon, Chair Wilson and members of the committee. I'm Kendra Ramsey. I'm the Executive Director of the California Bicycle Coalition. We're the voice of the everyday bicyclist in the State Capitol, and we work directly with local bike coalitions throughout the state representing tens of thousands of members. These are people who ride bikes to work, to school, and run errands, families, children, and older adults.
- Kendra Ramsey
Person
We'd like to thank Senator Blakespear, for her leadership in introducing this bill, which we're a proud sponsor of. The bill represents an important step to protect public investments in safe bike infrastructure, something that my organization has worked many years on. People throughout California rely on bicycles for transportation. While sharing a lane with a vehicle or riding in a traditional bike lane only separated from cars by paint may be acceptable to experienced recreational cyclists represented by the, namely by the registered opposition of this bill. The everyday bicyclists I represent often fear for their safety in those types of facilities.
- Kendra Ramsey
Person
I know I often do when I'm riding with my my three year old on the back of my bike. When state funds are invested to construct bike infrastructure, our community members should be able to rely on those investments for years to come. The voices of business owners who desire parking at their doorstep, commuters seeking to save a minute on their daily drive, or other or even avid cyclists who dislike protected infrastructure shouldn't outweigh the need of for safety for the majority of people riding bikes.
- Kendra Ramsey
Person
SB 569 protects the investment of state funds in safer bicycling infrastructure by extending the requirements set forth in the Active Transportation Program to maintain the facilities built with state dollars. At a time when our communities are facing rising traffic fatalities of bicyclists and other other vulnerable road users, our public investments to create safer roads should not be subject to changes in leadership or backlash from people with clout.
- Kendra Ramsey
Person
This bill provides transparency for these changes and a requirement to maintain safety for people on bikes if changes are made. For these reasons, we respectfully request your support of this bill. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Now moving on to members of the community who would like to add on in testimony, name, affiliation, and position. We'll get the mic on just one second.
- Jeanie Ward-Waller
Person
Good evening, Chair and members. Jeanie Ward-Waller on behalf of PeopleForBikes in support. I'm also adding on for the Pasadena Complete Streets Coalition, TransForm, Medical Advocates for Healthy Air, SanDiego350, Move LA, 350 Bay Area Action, CCAJ, and the Safe Routes Partnership. Thank you.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
Marc Vukcevich on behalf of Streets For All in support. Thank you.
- Zak Accuardi
Person
Zak Accuardi on behalf of NRDC, the Natural Resources Defense Council, in support. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. Before we move on to opposition testimony, we're going to do the quorum. So we I believe we do have someone who's testifying today. So if you can make your way to the front, as we do the quorum. Madam secretary.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. A quorum has been established. Now we'll hear from opposition. Mr. Mayor, may you go go ahead. Oh, wait, microphone. Look for the button and make sure it's lit.
- Bruce Ehlers
Person
Good afternoon. Bruce Ehlers, Mayor of Encinitas. The City of Encinitas opposes SB 569. However, if you recommend proceeding, we ask for clarifying amendments limiting the applicability to future funding. The bill currently appears to only apply to new projects.
- Bruce Ehlers
Person
This is good. The Committee's own analysis dated June 29 states this bill applies to bikeway conversions, quote, on a going-forward basis, end quote. It further states that it applies to jurisdictions that accept State General Fund monies in the future tense. Both phrases strongly imply the bill is not retroactive. We desire that it not apply to completed projects.
- Bruce Ehlers
Person
The bill's wording should be amended to apply only to new funding of new projects. We believe the bill also too narrowly defines safety and does not consider overall safety impacts, thus preventing cities from fixing unsafe or poorly designed projects. For example, Santa Fe Drive in Encinitas. We believe the bill would ignore several unsafe conditions and mandate the preservation of a poorly implemented Class IV bike lane. Specifically, the bill ignores right-hook safety threats located at seven driveways.
- Unidentified Speaker 010
These driveways are heavily traveled and serve a subdivision, a pickleball club, and a large church. The right hook is especially dangerous in this case since the bike lane is hidden by a row of diagonally parked vehicles that obscure drivers' views of bikes using the bike lane. Encinitas is sensitive to this situation since in 2020, Dr. Jennings Worley was tragically killed in Encinitas on a protected bike lane due to a right hook. Number two, the Fire Department reported that emergency vehicles were trapped in peak traffic. Ambulances could not pass.
- Bruce Ehlers
Person
The congested congested drivers had no space to pull over. Class II bike lanes would fix this issue. Fixing it is especially important since our hospital is located just a few blocks to the west.
- Bruce Ehlers
Person
Okay. The bill also ignores several other factors. Most importantly, the U.S. Post Office found the new Santa Fe Drive unsafe for mail delivery and stopped all mail delivery along there. So with that, I I hope you'll oppose SB 569. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving on to members of the public who would like to add on their opposition to this bill. Come to the microphone and note your name, affiliation, and position.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Was that was there more? Go go ahead. Come on. Sorry about that.
- Damon Conklin
Person
Damon Conklin with the League of California Cities. We're a tweener here. Removed our opposition. Just wanted to thank the committee and the author for working on the amendments, and we're hoping to, if the bill moves forward, find some clarifying provisions. Thank you very much.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Bringing it back to committee before I go to Assemblymember Ward, just noting that this bill because of the effective date of the new year, would not be retroactive. So it would be funds received, after the bill is implemented. So it would not count funds received all the way up including till December 31 of this year. And then note that the language, found in, 2c, if you're using your, for--members of this committee, it's on page three, line seven and eight.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
It doesn't factor in--you can factor in overall safety, but it just notes that when in factoring in that safety, it can't be, modified in a manner that reduces the safety, accessibility, or mobility of a non-motorized users. So that has to be taken into consideration. Assemblymember Ward.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm glad you started there. I wanna thank the author for working on this. I've really liked your analogy in the beginning that, you know, and I've principle that a lot of the public investments that we're doing, like you said, we're not gonna do affordable housing and then have, like, you know, four years later, a new governing body decide they're gonna tear that down.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
The same should be for a lot of our public investments because these are expensive investments meant to really able to provide, you know, a better quality of life that we're having for our neighborhoods.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
I know you know that well, both of us coming from local governments and neighboring jurisdictions. And I wondered, and I'm glad the Chair really raised that too because I wondered if you could speak to sort of this case study that we're talking about here today where if there is something that was implemented that is sort of, in hindsight, posing some kind of a problem, nothing would prohibit you from being able to continue to provide modifications for that.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Your intention is that, you know, we we wanna make sure that we're not losing the utility and the functionality that we're having there for shared use of this space. But if we need to tweak alignments, arrangements, or or infrastructure in a way that is going to, improve safety gaps that weren't previously noted and designed, that would still be permissible under this bill. Correct?
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Yes. Thank you, Assemblymember, for that question. Absolutely. That would still be allowed. So there are there's nothing that prohibits adding in speed bumps, doing better signage, putting in landscaping.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
I mean, there's a difference between removal of, for example, a barrier protected bike lane that's been built versus making modifications that would increase safety. Also, just note that in order for a a barrier protected bike lane or any bikeway to be put in, it goes through the full city process. So the fire department, the City Council, the traffic engineers, the coastal commission in this case too, because it's a coastal community. I mean, all all levels apply to this project those types of projects going in.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
And so having a a similar rigor to any suggestion of taking a project out is really what what is the aim here of this bill.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
That's right. And, yeah. We know that, you know, the we talk often about how long this process can be, like, from the get go. We've served on those decision making bodies before, and and they're pretty onerous. And there's a lot of review that goes into that.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Would this necessarily disqualify? Sometimes we use--or general funds would be eligible for pilot projects, and I wonder if that would also be something that would be captured by this bill.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
I would think so. I mean, any anytime it's being used, it's not--this aligns general fund money with ATP money where we already have a robust approach to how we manage, our active transportation projects, but I don't there's nothing in here that would disqualify a pilot project.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Let me give you an example because I've seen throughout several of our communities, you know, both home in San Diego as well. Here's our adopted work home here, but Sacramento that, you know, in the state of COVID and post-COVID years, we saw a lot of safe streets being implemented. Right? Where successfully, we're able to look at areas that we can really pedestrianize. And, you know, of course, there's a lot of business objection at first.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
We thought we would pilot it. We would try it out. Ended up, like, you know, being wildly successful by the public and actually increased a lot of activity, only a few years later to have the barriers removed and everything sort of returned to, you know, what it was pre-2020 and all the kind of, new character and enjoyment and safety that came from those kinds of features, you know, was no longer there.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And I guess I wonder is if and as this bill continues to move forward, if you wanna be able to look into that to, you know, really ensure that funds that were used towards pilot programs, even when though you are sometimes qualifying this as a pilot program with an intended expiration date. Right?
- Chris Ward
Legislator
That if the pilot is successful by some metrics that we are looking to achieve, that somehow your bill might still be a hook, that could really help that turn into more of a permanent feature, I think that's something to sort of, you know, really drill down onto.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Yeah. It's an interesting idea. It would definitely be an expansion of this bill because as it's currently drafted, it applies to bikeways. Oh. So it doesn't apply to all infrastructure. So but, you you know, there could be a future bill or or an expansion. But at the moment, SB 569 applies to bikeways.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Okay. Got it. And that is heavy infrastructure as it is. That's gonna be a lot of, like, material and a lot of investment. And then you had mentioned, or I thought I saw too in the analysis here--that or maybe you mentioned this as well--that we would not remove the, you would not be eligible to remove any of this infrastructure, quote, without good reason. And so is that well defined, and how do we really define, like, when a situation might arise that would qualify as good reason?
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Well, the language in the bill is, it doesn't refer to good reason. What it refers to is that the bikeway constructed in whole or in part with money from the State General Fund shall not be reverted to a non-active transportation use or modified in a manner that reduces the safety, accessibility, or mobility of nonmotorized uses for a minimum of 20 years. So it's specifically reducing safety.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
And I think there's when there's a physically barrier-protected bike lane that's been built, ripping that out and using just paint to protect a bicyclist from a truck or car is a reduction in safety. So that, you know, that, I think, is what is clear, but it would apply in different circumstances to different types of infrastructure.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And what would happen under this situation? You know, we intend to be able to put in this infrastructure because we know often safety is one of the biggest barriers for many people to begin to sort of make that leap and want to begin to use new infrastructure. And we do see that inducement often when that infrastructure goes in, but on occasion, sometimes that might really be lacking.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
So what happens when we have something that, unfortunately, is not providing that that inducement or otherwise is wildly so unpopular that nobody really wants to use it. Right?
- Chris Ward
Legislator
When there's overt nonutilization, is there any sort of out for reconsideration of how we're gonna use right-of-way that may still provide maybe new options for nonvehicular multimodal travel options. But in other words, are there, you know, what other kind of factors might, would you wanna be stuck with something for 20 years that literally, like, hardly anybody, if nobody, is using?
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Right. Through the Chair, if you don't mind, if I continue to answer his questions. I mean, I think the point of this is to establish a standard, and so it's safety, accessibility, or mobility of nonmotorized users. So if the city, county, regional, or other local agency that's proposing this, because always this is coming from a government agency, if they make the case, you know, that it meets this standard, then there would be options for that type of flexibility.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
So and I think we see that in the Active Transportation Program. So, it, you know, this is aligning with a standard that we already have, but it's also recognizing that we don't want what I've seen in both of my cities, and I'll use the other example in the City of Vista, there were barrier-protected bike lanes that were put in, and there was an immediate backlash, particularly in one of the councilmember's districts.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
And the city immediately went in based on the direction of the Council and all the people who were upset about the fact that it was a barrier-protected bike lane. It was next to speeding traffic. So that visual barrier of having an actual post that came up really was providing a lot of additional safety for the people riding in Vista, but they removed it from only a section that was in that councilmember's district.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
So it kept the barrier protection in some people's districts, then it took it out in the middle, and then it continued on the other side. And that happening all within a couple of months of something going in without having any availability to live with it, to evaluate it, to have the public hearings that are necessary. You know, I think that's an example where you could very well argue that that does not improve safety for bicyclists.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
But, you know, there are obviously, every city is different with these examples, but there have been we we have found, and I'm sure there are more, but these are just the four we found in four different cities throughout the state that have had similar types of of community backlash.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Yeah. No. We've heard that. Certainly haven't served in the whole local government too. No. Like I said, you know, from a principle standpoint, especially, we wanna make sure we're getting good use of our public funds over a really good period of time as well, you know, right just on the intent of where you're going here with this bill.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And I appreciate your clarification on a lot of the questions because I think we're, you know, kind of all hopefully reading from the same point that I think there are some opportunities and nuances within the bill that can, I think, help satisfy some of the, you know, more particular situations that may come up from time to time? I really wanna thank those that came up from San Diego County as well.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
It's a long journey to come up here to provide your time to be able to testify here today. With that, I'll be happy to support the bill today, madam Chair, and I'll move the bill.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. You have a motion and a second. So thank you. You know, I appreciate both you and your staff working collaboratively on this bill. And as you noted, it's really modeled after ATP, the Active Transportation Program.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And, the key difference though is if you use active transportation dollars, you cannot change it for 20 years or a useful life. And so this allows something different if you're using state funds whole or in part, a modification to accommodate both temporary and permanent changes as long as you're taking into consideration, as you noted from your testimony, safety, mobility, and accessibility for nonmotorized users.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And so given that, this would be precedent setting, but at the same time, it is based on a precedent already for other types of state dollars, it's reasonable. And as was noted, I appreciate everyone who came up from San Diego County today. As noted, it is it is not retroactive.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
It is something that guides decision forwarding. And I'm sure as the author has been amenable for changes in my committee as she continues through the legislative process. If further clarification of definitions need to be done, I'm sure she'd be open to that too. I'll be supporting your bill. We have a motion on the floor by, Ward and a second by Harabedian. And with that, I'll give you an opportunity to close.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Thank you for, the questioning today, Assemblymember Ward, and I appreciate your support of this bill and respectfully request an aye vote.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. We'll hold that role open for members to be able to add on. Moving on to item number two, SB 741.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Okay. Thank you. Moving on to my next bill, SB 741. I accept the committee amendments. Thank you to the Chair, staff, and stakeholders for working together on this bill.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
SB 741 builds on what works in the low carbon transit operations program, also known as LC TOP, by streamlining administration and enabling transit agencies to maximize funding and improve services. Last year, the California Transportation Agency recommended in its transit transformation transformation task force that the state should streamline grant programs to reduce administrative costs and enhance transit services. This follows through on that recommendation. Presently, transit agencies are facing big challenges with stagnant ridership that hasn't fully recovered from the pandemic, capital needs, and deteriorating finances.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
As I've said multiple times this year, we need public transportation to succeed, to cut greenhouse gas emissions and meet the state's climate goals, to offer a legitimate alternative to driving and reduce traffic congestion, and to provide low income working Californians who can't afford vehicles a reliable efficient way to get around.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
For over a decade, investments in LCTOP have shown that transit is one of the state's most effective tools for reducing emissions. At the same time, though, the program's red tape and requirements have become burdensome. Much of what LCTOP asked for today is not needed and only serves to add to the workload for transit agencies that are nearing the breaking point. Without action, transit agencies will be forced to consider service cuts and delay reliability improvements that undermine the goal of reducing transportation sector emissions.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
We can run LCTOP more efficiently and maintain accountability and robust oversight.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
This will help public transit to meet its goals to be accessible to riders and build ridership through frequent reliable service that's crucial to reducing climate emissions. With me today in support, I have Michael Pimentel on behalf of the California Transit Association and Marc Vukcevich on behalf of Streets for All.
- Michael Pimentel
Person
Madam Chair and members, I'm Michael Pimentel, executive director of the California Transit Association. I'm here today to voice my organization's support for SB 741, Blakespear. The association is a proud sponsor of this bill, and we thank Senator Blakespear for leadership in introducing it. Members, this bill rests on a very simple premise that investment in public transit projects and services benefit the environment and help the state meet its greenhouse gas reduction targets.
- Michael Pimentel
Person
It's a premise that's embedded in the state's foundational climate policy documents like the scoping plan and the mobile source strategy as well as the state's climate focused transportation policy documents like the California Transportation Plan and the Climate Action Plan for Transportation Infrastructure.
- Michael Pimentel
Person
But it's a premise that in our view is insufficiently the state's greenhouse gas reduction fund supported programs, including the low carbon trans operations program in which the state annually requires transit agencies to prove that proposed investments in transit service, new vehicles, or new transit passes that increase transit ridership, in fact, reduce emissions.
- Michael Pimentel
Person
As we approach an everly, ever fiscally constrained future for transit agencies and state alike, the association believes that we must partner with the state to ensure that limited funding is spent on delivering benefits to Californians, not completing paperwork, and to establish appropriate funding flexibility that allows transit agency to meet their evolving local and operational and capital needs.
- Michael Pimentel
Person
And so to that end, this bill would declare in statute the specific transit projects and services eligible for funding, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, streamline and simplify the administration of the program, and create additional flexibility for transit agencies to use their share of funding to meet their local needs. And with that, I wanna encourage your aye vote today. Thank you.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
Good evening, Chair Wilson, members. Mark Vukcevich on behalf of Streets For All. We are not a public transit operator. I wanna acknowledge that at the front, but we're here from this perspective of public transit lovers and riders and a community of people who feel passionately about public transit and the communities it creates. And, we believe in this bill, and we believe that SB 741 is important because it recognizes the moment that transit is now.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
You know, transit, I I actually disagree with Senator Blakespear. It's not stagnant. It is a recovering, ridership post pandemic, and it's still growing every single year and trying to meet the moment, despite tough budget situations from both the state level, uncertainty at the Federal Government, and also outdated process and outdated ways that we we think and fund transit. And I think that's what part of this bill is trying to do.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
And so California has set major goals around climate, clean air, equity, reducing greenhouse gas emissions, and VMT.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
And, you know, people want this. People want a workable public transit system. Young people aren't getting driver's license and they're riding e bikes all over the place. That's the next bill. And, you know, we can't ask people to meet the moment and meet our goals and meet their desires if we have a public transit system that's not working for them, if the bus is infrequent or unreliable, or if a fare program disappears or the different system just the system disappears altogether.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
So that's why this bill matters. The SB 741 updates LCTOP so that safe client dollars can be used for things that make transit more useful to riders, you know, maintaining and expanding bus, rail, and ferry services, supporting fare subsidies, and improving fare and network integration. It doesn't create a new program. It improves an existing program.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
And so, from our perspective, a bus that comes more often, a fare that a student can afford, and a system that is easier to transfer is not just an operational improvement. It is a fundamental need of the system. And so, if we are serious about our transit systems and our public transit in California, I I urge you to support this bill. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Now moving on to members of the public who would like to add on their support. Name, affiliation, and position.
- Brendan Repicky
Person
Madam Chair, Brendan Repicky on behalf of the Santa Cruz Metropolitan Transit District and Sunline Transit Agency in support and on behalf of Via Transportation support if amended. Thank you.
- Matt Robinson
Person
Thank you, madam Chair. Matt Robinson on behalf of your third favorite transit system, County Connection, in strong support.
- Spencer Street
Person
Thank you, madam Chair. Spencer Street, on behalf of the North County Transit San Diego Railroad, in support. Thank you.
- Moira Topp
Person
Good evening, Chair and members. Moira Topp here on behalf of the Orange County Transportation Authority, in support.
- Sharon Gonzalez
Person
Thank you. Sharon Gonzalez on behalf of the City of Carlsbad in support.
- Zak Accuardi
Person
Evening. Zak Accuardi, NRDC, Natural Resources Defense Council. We're support if amended.
- Casey Gupta
Person
Casey Gupta from RIDE San Diego and San Diego Three Fifty in support if amended.
- Jeanie Ward-Waller
Person
Jeanie Ward-Waller on behalf of Climate Plan, Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability, and Move LA. We're in a support if amended position and appreciate the author and sponsor for working with us. Thanks.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. It looks like we do not have any opposition registered for witnesses. I believe no opposition registered. Correct. With that, we'll bring it to committee for any questions, comments, or concerns.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. Seeing none, I'd like to say to the author, I appreciate your work to streamline this program to make it easier for transit agencies to use formula funds without the onerous reporting requirements. And I definitely appreciate you restoring the provisions of the law requiring that 50% of the LCTOP funds are expended in disadvantaged communities. I will be supporting your bill today and ask that you continue to work with the advocates that came up support as if amended as the bill progresses.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
With that, we have a motion, by Davies and seconded by Sharp-Collins, give you an opportunity to close.
- Committee Secretary
SB 741. The motion is do pass as amended to appropriations. [Roll call]
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. We'll hold that roll open for members to be able to add on. Excuse me. As we transition our witnesses, we're gonna go ahead, while we have a quorum presence, vote on our consent calendar. There are 13 bills on the consent calendar.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Item four, SB 1324. Item seven, SB 897. Item nine, SB 1029. Item 10, SB 1069. Item 15, SB 1293.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Item 16, SB 1382. Item 18, ACR 128. Item 19, SCR 108. Item 20, SCR 117. Item 21, SCR 119.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Item 22, SCR 121. Item 23, SCR 124. Item 25, SCR 155. And we have a motion made by Assemblymember Ward followed by Sharp Coll seconded, excuse me, by Sharp-Collins. Madam secretary, please call the roll.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
11 votes. We'll hold the roll open for members to be able to add on. Moving on to item number 3, SB 1167.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Thank you, Chair and colleagues. This is my third and last bill in front of you today. I'm pleased to author SB 1167, which is sponsored by four of the biggest groups working on E-bike issues, Cal Bike, People for Bikes, Streets for All, and Streets are for Everyone.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
I gladly accept the committee's amendments. This bill addresses misrepresentation in the E-bike marketplace and strengthens consumer protections around how electric bicycles are marketed and sold.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Often, any bicycle shaped device with an electric motor is labeled an E-bike, regardless of its power and speed capabilities. This can lead consumers to think that they're all similar and that there's no difference between the vehicles, the speeds they go, the danger involved, or the safety requirements, but that's not true.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
That's why California law already clearly defines what qualifies as an E-bike. It can have no more than 750 watts of power and go no faster than 20 miles per hour on a throttle or 28 miles per hour when pedal assisted. Due to the popularity of E-bike, manufacturers and sellers have not held fast to the legal definition.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
They have blurred the distinction, advertising more power for motor vehicles as E-bikes. This false advertising can cause consumers to underestimate the danger of using these faster motor vehicles.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Just to illustrate E-bike popularity, according to People four Bikes, E-bikes are the number one growth driver for the bicycle industry over the past five years, responsible for 63% of the growth in dollar sales of all bicycles between 2019 and 2023. In my hometown of Encinitas and indeed throughout my district, E-bikes are hugely popular.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Everywhere on the streets, we see people of all ages using them, and we've heard or read about E-bike crashes and kids getting hurt. In San Diego County, research released from Rady Children's Hospital showed there were two hundred and sixty-two traumatic emergencies on electric two-wheel devices handled by a hospital in 2025.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
SB 1167 will address the lack of clarity in the E-bike marketplace by better regulating motor vehicles that look like E-bikes so purchasers are aware of safety risks and manufacturers and sellers can be held responsible for misleading advertising.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Specifically, SB 1167 will clarify the definition of E-bikes and specify that motor driven cycles, mopeds, motorcycles, and other motor vehicles are not E-bikes, require manufacturers and sellers to disclose if a device is not an E-bikes, including advising consumers that vehicle registration and rider licensing is required.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Standardizing the location of E-bike labels to be easily seen without having to turn the bicycle upside down and requiring law enforcement officers to include that labeling information on incident reports.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Finally, prohibiting any two or three wheeled device that can exceed 20 miles per hour from being used on public roads unless it meets the requirements of a device explicitly authorized for use on public roads. With me today, I have Mark Vucevich on behalf of Streets for All and Jeanne Wardwaller on behalf of People for Bikes. Go ahead.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
Good evening, Chair members. Marc Vukcevich on behalf of Streets for All. First and foremost, I just want to thank the committee, the incredibly well written analysis, and the amendments that were worked on. Just want to appreciate that. SB 1167 is a targeted street safety and consumer protection bill.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
It does not punish legal E-bikes. It protects them in an effort to deal with the E-Moto problem. So legal E-bikes are the one of the most important tools we have for replacing car trips, lowering transportation costs, giving young and older people more independence, helping Californians get around getting around without being a drive.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
Right now, public confidence is in E-bikes is being undermined by a different category of vehicle, which is high powered electric mopeds, motor driven cycles, and e motors that are being marketed, sold, and used as if they were ordinary bicycles or E-bikes. That confusion matters.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
A legal E-bike is limited to 750 watts, must fit within California's class system. I can't stress that enough, but many devices being sold as e bikes can reach 30, 40, 50 miles per hour, and these are things that parents are buying for their children or buying for themselves.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
Oftentimes without registering their device, having any insurance on it, no uncertain turn signals, no vehicle identification number, all of the stuff that we expect of a vehicle.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
So, that creates two problems. It creates a real safety problem on our street and bike lanes and near schools for pedestrians, and it also creates a perceived E-bike problem where the perils and the issues of E-motos are being placed onto the legal market that's trying to do the right thing.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
Many of these are good faith California companies, that is the leaders of the E-bikes brands in California, in The United States, doing the right thing, and so, SB 1167 addresses the actual problem. It clarifies what is and is not an E-bike.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
It prohibits false advertising, requires clear labels and disclosures, improve improves crash reporting, helps law enforcement parents, schools, retailers, and consumers tell the difference.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
This bill basically says, E-bikes are welcome, but anything that's not an e bike that might be trying to deceive you into thinking it's an E-bike, is not. For those reasons, Streetsville respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you very much. Expert two-minute testimony. Oh, wait. One more.
- Jeanie Ward-Waller
Person
One more. I'll be quick, I promise. Good evening again, Chair and members. Jeanne Ward-Waller representing People four Bikes. People four Bikes is the national advocate and trade association for manufacturers and distributors of bicycles and electric bicycles.
- Jeanie Ward-Waller
Person
We thank Senator Blake Spear for her authorship and are proud to cosponsor this bill to address the explosion of high speed Emotors and the impacts on safe streets. Electric bicycles, as the Senator said, are the only reliably growing segment of the bicycle market, and they expand access to affordable, sustainable transportation at a time when the cost of driving is climbing fast.
- Jeanie Ward-Waller
Person
Protecting the integrity of what qualifies as a legal electric bicycle is essential to maintaining safe streets and public confidence in this important mode. However, consumers are increasingly encountering E-motos marketed as E-bikes that do not meet California's legal definition, and it's no wonder people are confused about what they are buying.
- Jeanie Ward-Waller
Person
Some E-motos have motors with thousands of Watts of power and can reach highway speeds as, Mark just said of up to 65 miles per hour. We know from recent research that children and teens are now riding more E-motos than E-bikes, so it's critical that we have clear disclosures and accountability in advertising, to ensure parents know what they're buying.
- Jeanie Ward-Waller
Person
By clarifying the definition of what is not an electric bicycle, SB 1167 ensures that E-motos cannot be legally marketed as e bikes. The changes in this bill will help consumers make informed decisions, provide a clear framework for regulating E-motos, and align vehicle use with safety standards. We urge your aye vote on SB 1167.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. With that, moving on to members of the public who would like to add on their support, name, affiliation, and position.
- Kendra Ramsey
Person
Hello. Kendra Ramsey, California Bicycle Coalition, cosponsor of the bill, in support. Thank you.
- Julie Snyder
Person
Julie Snyder with the Metropolitan Transportation Commission and Association of Bay Area Governments, in support.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
Nicole Wertleman on behalf of the Orange County Board of Supervisors, in support.
- Sharon Gonzales
Person
Sharon Gonzales on behalf of the cities of Carlsbad, Coronado, San Mateo, and the Marin County Council of Mayors and council members. Thank you.
- Moira Topp
Person
Moyra Top on behalf of the Orange County Transportation Authority, in support.
- Scott Cox
Person
Good evening. Scott Cox on behalf of the East Bay Regional Parks District, in strong support.
- Clifton Wilson
Person
Clifton Wilson on behalf of the city and county of San Francisco in support. Thank you.
- Matt Robinson
Person
Matt Robinson on behalf of the city of Goleta, the San Mateo City County Association of Governments, as well as the California Medical Association, all in support. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Now moving on to opposition testimony. You may proceed.
- Jack Wurston
Person
Good evening, Chair members. My name is Jack Wurston, and I am here representing the Motorcycle Industry Council, a not-for-profit trade association representing manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and aftermarket companies. We appreciate the author, sponsors, and your staff for working with us and believe the bill has improved greatly since its introduction.
- Jack Wurston
Person
However, we unfortunately have an opposed unless amended position on the bill today. I want to begin by making clear that we appreciate the author's intent and agree that consumer confusion around E-bikes is a legitimate issue.
- Jack Wurston
Person
We both want to avoid somebody who intends to buy an electric bicycle, ending up with a more powerful electric motorcycle but defining E-bike in statute, to only apply to electric bicycle industries both use it broadly.
- Jack Wurston
Person
Compare this to the term scooter. A scooter could be one used by a child at a park. An electric sit-on scooter could be used by a commuter and registered as a motorcycle. A stand-up scooter could be rented on share programs, and other scooters are used by individuals with mobility issues for shopping or other tasks.
- Jack Wurston
Person
Just as no, one industry owns the term scooter, no, one industry owns the term E-bike. Many companies already use E-bike in their brand names and product lines, providing clear disclosures to ensure that consumers are educated on what they are purchasing. The provisions in this bill would make those companies illegal upon enactment.
- Jack Wurston
Person
It is also important to note that California does not define E-bike in statute today and neither does federal law. In fact, the Consumer Product Safety Commission already classifies higher powered products as off highway motorcycles, and they proposed a rule just last week that reinforces that these terms are broadly used.
- Jack Wurston
Person
That framework highlights the gap between state and federal terminology. Finally, we proposed various alternatives to the author such as labeling, point of sale disclosures, and clear advertising, and we look to continue working with her on this important issue. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving on to other members of the public who would like to note their opposition to this bill. Now would be appropriate time to come to the microphone with name, affiliation, and position. Seeing none, moving to members of this committee starting with vice Chair Davies.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Thank you, madam Chair. I just want to thank the Senator for bringing this bill forward. Obviously, we have a big concern in my district as well. The number of not only accidents, but of deaths, especially with these E-motor bikes, is horrendous, and it's not getting any better, and you're watching these kids.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
A lot of the parents don't even know the speed of these bikes. They've never actually ridden on one. So, we've got to do everything we can to not only protect the riders, and most of them are in their teens, but also those that are walking on sidewalks in cars. So, thank you so much for bringing this, and now I think I already did a motion or we've got it going.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Excuse me. Happy to have you moving. Is that a second by Rogers? There we go. So we have a motion by Davies and a second by oh, Rogers.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
Little quick thing. I would like to thank the Senator for bringing this forward. Also being from San Diego, there is a huge concern in regard to the E-bikes within itself. Having been on this committee for a short time, there's been a lot of bills that has come into play to talk about this.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
Based on what I've read, this has been one of the clearest bills that I've heard to help me understand as a parent in regard to what the expectations are when it comes to E-bikes. So, with that, once again, thank you for pushing forth this bill, and I would like to be at it as a co-author if you will have me. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. Seeing no others, thank you for working, with the committee and the Motorcycle Industry Council on the definitions for moped and motor driven cycle. The Mineta report issued late last year highlights the concern both around E-bikes as well as bicycle shaped devices.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Too many children are riding motorized vehicles that are marketed as an E-bike, but in fact can go speeds much faster than permitted by law.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
So, I believe that your legislation in conjunction with the legislation that came through us committee, authored by the Chair will help address the safety concerns for both E-bikes and for the much faster devices that have been appearing on the road. We have a motion made by Davies and seconded by Rogers, give you an opportunity to close.
- Catherine Blakespear
Legislator
Thank you. Yes. Chair, you just summarized the situation perfectly, so I'll close with that. I respectfully ask for your aye vote.
- Committee Secretary
SB 1167. The motion is do pass as amended to appropriations. [ROLL CALL]
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
With that, we'll hold the row open for members to be able to add on. I'm going in follow item order, moving on to item number 8, SB 953. The author may begin at his convenience.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
Thank you, madam Chair and members. First, I'd like to thank Assemblymember Davies for being prepared and willing to present on my behalf, but we got out on time for me to get here. So, but I appreciate your willingness to do that. So, SB 953 addresses a serious gap in California law.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
When a driver causes a death through vehicular manslaughter and then receives misdemeanor diversion, that conduct will have no reflection on their driving record. This bill ensures that even after diversion, the underlying conduct remains recognized for what it is, a major driving risk.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
Under current laws, a speeding ticket can now have a greater reflection on your driving record than killing someone with your car. A dismissal after diversion does not change the fact that a fatality occurred, and some people on the road are at increased risk.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
By not sharing this information with the DMV, the DMV cannot do its job of determining who poses a risk and who does not. The CalMatters "license to kill" series documented systemic failures in California's driving accountability system and found that dangerous drivers repeatedly avoided consequences and oversight.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
DMV records often failed to reflect serious risk patterns, and many individuals involved in fatal crashes remained legally on the road. There is a serious issue where California has allowed drivers with dangerous histories to continue driving, and people, unfortunately, are dying.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
SB 953 directs respond directly responds to this failure by ensuring that fatal conduct is captured by in the DMV point system, preventing risk from being hidden behind diversion outcomes. This bill does not impact one's criminal penalties.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
This bill only applies two points to the driving record in vehicular manslaughter misdemeanor cases, and judges still retain full discretion to grant diversion. It has long been the case that vehicular manslaughter offenses result in the addition of two points on the driving record, so this does not create anything new.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
The DMV point system is designed to identify high risk drivers. Without points, these drivers now remain invisible to the system, even after a fatal incident. Families of victims expect that the system will acknowledge the seriousness of the loss and take steps to prevent recurrence.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
To dismiss one's driving record dismisses the value of a lost life. SB 953 affirms that a loss of life carries lasting weight. A death on our roads should never disappear from our records. Here with me today is Allison Lyman, the mother of Connor Lyman, who has tragically lost his life on the roadways. This is personally important to her.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
Okay. There we go. Thank you, Senator Nilo. My name is Allison Lyman. I am the mother of Connor, a victim of vehicular manslaughter. There is a crisis happening on our roads. 4,000 innocent lives are killed on California roads every year. 4,000 lives. Behind each one is a family devastated. Communities destroyed.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
They should multiply each death by a 100. That's a more accurate number. I died the day my son was killed. We all know the statistics and failures exposed in license to kill by CalMatters. The laws in our state do not reflect the gravity of these crimes and do not hold reckless drivers accountable.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
This must change to save lives. My 23-year-old son, Connor, was killed on 04/23/2025 by a reckless and negligent driver. Connor is not just one of 4,000. Connor was my only son. He was my firstborn.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
He was a devoted big brother, a classically trained pianist, and a piano teacher while he attended Sacramento City College. He dreamed of becoming a lawyer. He made this world a better place and he filled our home with his magnificent music. The silence is now heartbreaking. When I buried my child, the funeral home covered only his hands.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
His beautiful hands that had played piano for nearly his entire life. I saw my son in the hospital. His strong healthy body had been broken. The violence of his death is something I will carry forever. No parent should ever have to experience the trauma or live with those memories.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
Under California law, Connor's death is a misdemeanor. Because his killing is classified as low level and nonviolent, the driver charged with taking his life is eligible for a diversion program, allowing them to avoid a conviction simply by completing coursework or community service. This means there's no record of the crime, no record of Connor's death.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
A driver who's already proven dangerous is allowed to continue driving without consequence. The system fails families who have lost loved ones and endangers every Californian each time these individuals get behind the wheel.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
SB 953 is a necessary common-sense reform. By adding two DMV points when a misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter case is dismissed through diversion, the state will finally have a mechanism to track, repeat dangerous drivers. It takes four points to suspend a license. SB 953 does not overreach. It simply ensures that a fatality is not erased.
- Nicole Wertleman
Person
That Connor is not erased. I'm asking you to support SB 953. It is a measured reasonable step towards accountability and towards protecting the public from drivers who have already taken an innocent life. For Connor, for Misha, for Jada, for Julian, for Grace, for Huey, for Brayden, for Braun, for Luis, for Drew, for the 4,000 other innocent lives. Please vote yes on SB 953.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Now moving on to other members of the public who would like to add on their support, name, affiliation, and position.
- Marc Vukcevich
Person
Mark Vukcevich on behalf of Streets for All in support of the bill. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. Now moving on to opposition. As I understand it, we don't have any opposition witnesses. But if we do have members of the public who would like to register their opposition, now would be an appropriate time to come forward, Name, affiliation, and position. Seeing none, moving.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We have a motion and a second. I don't see any other comments. So, thank you, Senator oh, I'm sorry. I missed you. Doctor Sharp Collins.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
I just wanted to, again, thank Senator Nilo for bringing this forward. I had a chance to hear this bill in in public safety, and I was moved by Connor's story. I just wanted to share with you on that day, I felt that he was there because there was a song that I played for you, not knowing that that was one of his favorite songs to play. Yeah.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
So, I just felt like he was there with us and wanted to make sure that people understood that this was a very important bill to be able to move forward and just thank you once again for sharing your overall story, and I will be supporting the bill today.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Seeing no other so I'm looking members of the committee giving comments. We do have a motion made by Agar Kuryan, seconded by Ransom. So, I appreciate you billing bringing this bill forward.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
As noted, I introduced a similar bill that would have continued to add points on a person's license for all misdemeanor vehicle code violations, not just vehicular manslaughter, but including those.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Mine's been amended to not impose new DMV programming costs. I know that is somewhat of a hurdle for this bill. I'll be supporting your bill, today, and I hope that the governor's office continues to work with the legislature on addressing, this important and critical issue. I'll give you an opportunity to close.
- Roger Niello
Legislator
Well, one of the principles of salesmanship is when it appears you've closed the deal, you shut up. So just let me say I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. You had some very excited people to vote for that today.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
With that, we'll hold the role open for members to be able to add on.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. I see for file item order, I see, we have an author present. Items, there's two bills by this author, item number 5, SB 739, and item number 6, SB 1218.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Thank you, and I'd like to invite my witnesses to please join me.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Good evening, madam Chair and members of the committee, and thank you for the opportunity to present Senate Bill 1218, which is my number one priority bill for this year, just to start out with that, which would give local law enforcement and certain code enforcement employees the authority to put a wheel boot on an individual's vehicle if the owner has repeatedly failed to resolve illegal dumping citations.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I wanna start by sincerely thanking the Chair and committee staff for their work with my office and the sponsors and their work to, frankly, make this a better bill by suggesting that we focus on vehicle booting rather than DMV enforcement. This will not only reduce the cost for the state, but will streamline enforcement for local governments, and I'm pleased to accept the committee's amendments.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
This amended bill will allow for a local authority to immobilize or boot a vehicle for a person who has five or more outstanding illegal dumping citations or failure to appear notices for illegal dumping or two or more unpaid citations for illegal dumping of commercial quantities. And to just, cite the definition of commercial quantities in existing law, it's waste matter equal to or an excess of one cubic yard.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
This is consistent with existing legal authority provided to local governments for the enforcement of unpaid parking and traffic citations. And put this in context, illegal dumping is a persistent public health environment on quality of life crisis in the city of Oakland, which I live in and represent, and in cities throughout the state of California. Abandoned waste attracts additional dumping, creates fire hazards, blocks sidewalks, harms businesses, and disproportionately impacts low income communities and communities of color.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Despite significant investments in many communities to clean up dump waste, including increased staffing, increased bulky pickup services, and aggressive pursuit of grant funding, enforcement remains the critical missing component. Currently in Oakland and across jurisdictions, illegal dumping citations are routinely ignored, and collection rates for administrative citations remain unacceptably low.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Cities across our state lack a meaningful enforcement tool to ensure compliance, and repeat offenders often face little deterrence. And to put this in context, between 2021 and 2024, Oakland issued nearly 3,000 illegal dumping citations, totaling 1,300,000 in fines, where the city has only been able to collect 11% of the total fines issued. And last year, the city of Oakland received 25,000 calls reporting incidences of illegal dumping. As a result, Oakland crews have removed 15,000,000 pounds of waste. This is a necessary action for cities to take.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And when the city routinely cleans up hot spot areas, it sends a signal to perpetrators that their actions do not have consequences, and those areas are dumped again. In closing, I wanna acknowledge the comments made by opposition regarding the impact of enforcement policies on indigent people. Currently, penal code section 374.3 already authorizes the court to consider the defendant's ability to pay when issuing fines for illegal dumping.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Additionally, the amended bill authorization for booting would not be triggered after one violation, but after repeated repeated unpaid citations, including incidences of dumping commercial quantities of waste. This is not intended to penalize a person who dumps furniture at the side of the road because they're cleaning their home or students who are moving out of their college or dorm or good Samaritans who wanna help the homeless or even persons experiencing homelessness.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
The authorization to boot only applies due to the repeated act of dumping waste on our streets and in public spaces and failing to pay outstanding citations. This is intended to deal with licensed and unlicensed haulers who dump material in public spaces, to deal with contractors who dump construction debris on our streets, and people who consistently decide to trash our communities.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Similar to the authority provided to local agencies to boot vehicles due to unpaid parking and traffic citations, this bill will establish a meaningful consequence for unpaid dumping citations. SB 1218 will deter repeat illegal dumping, improve compliance, and support cleaner and safer neighborhoods. And before I turn over the witnesses, I wanna acknowledge, that I have a number of constituents who are here who came all the way from the East Bay, to lend their support for this bill.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I wanna particularly thank Faith in Action East Bay for being here today, who you'll hear from very shortly, and for their advocacy in addressing legal legal dumping and for cleaner neighborhoods in the East Bay. And with me to testify in support of the bill is my mayor, the mayor of the City of Oakland, the honorable Barbara Lee, and Amaka Watson from SEIU 1021, and a City of Oakland environmental enforcement officer. Thank you.
- Barbara Lee
Person
Thank you very much. My name is Barbara Lee, and I'm the mayor of the City Of Oakland, and I'm here in support of Senate bill 1218 authored by Senator Jesse Arreguin. First, I wanna thank Senator Arreguin for his leadership and for partnering with the
- Barbara Lee
Person
city of Oakland to city of Oakland to address a challenge, a real challenge, that communities across California continue to face. I also wanna thank you, madam Chair and your staff for working with us on amendments to this bill. We are pleased, as Senator Arreguin said, to accept those amendments, including replacing DMV enforcement mechanism with the use of vehicle immobilization or booting for the nonpayment of illegal dumping citations.
- Barbara Lee
Person
And I also wanna community partners, including Faith in Action, SEIU, for their activism, and for their work in reminding us that true democracy only works through the power of the people, as we know in Oakland and say so often. Illegal dumping is one of the issues Oakland residents raise with me most often because it affects every single neighborhood in our city, especially disproportionately communities of color from West Oakland to Deep East Oakland.
- Barbara Lee
Person
So let me be clear. Illegal dumping is not a random act. It concentrates in the same communities that have experienced structural racism, institutional neglect, and decades of long term disinvestment. Black and brown neighborhoods and low income neighborhoods are targeted because they have been under resourced and under protected for generations. This is an equity issue, and it deserves to be treated as one.
- Barbara Lee
Person
Clean streets are bound more than appearance. They are about public safety, public health, neighborhood pride, human dignity, and the quality of life. And actually, when I was first elected, I had instituted keep the town clean with with the faith community and young people, who go out every single weekend to clean streets and around especially schools. Oakland has invested millions of dollars cleaning up illegally dumped waste, but cannot clean our way out of this problem without meaningful accountability.
- Barbara Lee
Person
The buck must stop somewhere, and this bill ensures it stops with the people doing the dumping, not with the residents who have already carried the burden for much too long.
- Barbara Lee
Person
Illegal dumping is a deliberate act that preys on vulnerable communities and disproportionately harms working class neighborhoods. Whether it's household trash, construction debris, or discarded appliances, these materials too often end up dumped in our neighborhoods instead of being properly disposed of. Illegal dumping
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
I said we'll have to have you wrap up if you wanna give your closing statement.
- Barbara Lee
Person
Oh, ok, I will definitely wrap up and just say thank you again because we need this enforcement tool. Senate bill 1218 does that together with Crankstart, which has invested $9,000,000 also in our efforts toward illegal dumping. I think we finally have a partnership that's gonna go a long way. Thank you again. I just wanted to say thanks to all of you.
- Barbara Lee
Person
I'm sitting here remembering when I was in the Assembly. I served on the Assembly transportation committee, so I know the importance of your party.
- Amaka Watson
Person
Good evening. My name is Amaka Watson. I've been employed with the city of Oakland for twenty five years. I'm currently an environmental enforcement officer with the city of Oakland and SEIU 1021 elected union officer. Thank you for the opportunity for me to speak before you today.
- Amaka Watson
Person
Illegal dumping continues to be a major public health and quality of life issue across California. California law already prohibits illegal dumping. However, citations are often ignored, collection rates remain extremely low, and cities spend significant resources on cleanup but lack effective enforcement tools to ensure compliance. Our goal is not to target or criminalize people who live in low income, marginalized, and disenfranchised communities, including unhoused or otherwise struggling in our communities.
- Amaka Watson
Person
We understand that illegal dumping is often a symptom of broader challenges facing a city that has experienced decades of disinvestment.
- Amaka Watson
Person
What we do seek to address are the bad actors who normally and repeatedly dump large amounts of waste in our neighborhoods. Illegal dumping severely impacts our most vulnerable communities, making neighborhoods appear more blighted, less safe, and creating serious public health and environmental hazards. To be clear, my work is not solely focused on a single bag of trash left on the curb. I also focus on a large scale dumping operations involving hundreds of pounds of waste.
- Amaka Watson
Person
These are significant dumping incidents that create environmental hazards, burdens to city resources, and negatively impact entire neighborhoods.
- Amaka Watson
Person
Every day we see waste being brought in our neighborhoods, often from outside our outside the city of Oakland, dumped in places where residents are already facing significant challenges. The people who live in these communities deserve clean, safe streets just like anyone else. That is why SEIU 1021 supports this bill. It provides the enforcement tools we need to hold major illegal dumpers and irresponsible haulers accountable. Right now, our ability to make a meaningful impact is limited.
- Amaka Watson
Person
This legislation fills that gap. I leave you by saying, I am not investigating a single bag of trash. I'm investigating truckloads of debris, construction waste, furniture, and other materials dumped by repeat offenders who treat our neighborhoods like a landfill. This bill gives us the tools to hold these actors accountable for all of our residents, unhoused and housed. I respectfully request an aye vote. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. With that, we'll move on to members of the public who would like to add on their support. Name, affiliation, and position.
- Amy Costa
Person
Good evening. Amy Costa on behalf of Alameda County in strong support.
- Nick Gorman
Person
Nick Gorman with the Port of Oakland in strong support. Thank you for the author for his leadership.
- Sharon Gonsalves
Person
Sharon Gonsalves on behalf of the cities of Thousand Oaks in El Cerrito in support.
- Melissa Cosio
Person
Melissa Cosio here with Pacific Gas and Electric Company, PG and E in strong support. Thank you.
- Clifton Wilson
Person
Clifton Wilson on behalf of the City and County of San Francisco Board of Supervisors in support. Thank you.
- John Brockett
Person
John Brockett, Faith in Action East Bay, I strongly support this bill. Thank you.
- Barbara Lafitte-Oluwole
Person
Barbara Lafitte-Oluwole, Faith in Action East Bay, I strongly support.
- Gloria Avalos
Person
My name is Gloria Avalos, Faith and Action East Bay, I support. We deserve clean streets.
- Niccolo De Luca
Person
Madam Chair and committee members, Niccolo De Luca here on behalf of the city of Union City, Emeryville, and Antioch in strong support. And thank you the to the author for all of his leadership.
- Anna Romero
Person
My name is Anna Romero. I'm from Richmond. Faith in Action. I'm support.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to opposition. We don't have any testifying or do we? We do. Come on come on forward. I wanna confirm your affiliation. Sounds good. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
You may begin. And just know that we had given an extra twenty-five seconds to the other testifiers, so you will also get an extra twenty-five seconds.
- Unidentified Speaker 032
Also, before I begin, my understanding is through the Chair, I may be able to get four minutes if I'm the only opposition. Is that accurate?
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Not for this committee. Okay. But but the other ones did get two minutes and twenty-five seconds each, so you will get two minutes and twenty-five seconds.
- Marshall Arnwein
Person
Understood. Thank you. Good evening, Chair and committee members. My name is Marshall Arnwein. I am a legislative advocate for the ACLU California action.
- Marshall Arnwein
Person
We are here in respectful opposition to SB 1218. Basically, thanks to author and the sponsors for the opportunity to share our concerns with the bill. The ACLU understands the bill's intent to address illegal dumping due to public health concerns. The ACLU shares the goal of improving public health. However, we do not share their approach of enforcement mechanisms proposed in the bill to address this problem.
- Marshall Arnwein
Person
Because of that, the ACLU must remain in respectful opposition. We first oppose the bill because it will not solve the root issue. The ACLU respectfully opposes the committee's proposal to give local authorities the authority to immobilize a vehicle for a person who has five or more unpaid citations or fail to appear notices for legal dumping or two or more unpaid citations for legal dumping in commercial quantities, especially if there's no nexus to the vehicle being used for the dumping.
- Marshall Arnwein
Person
This will essentially be a debt collection with similar Fourth Amendment concerns that was raised in the 2021 court case, Coalition of Homelessness versus the City of San Francisco, regarding towing safely parked vehicles solely because their owners have accrued five or more parking unpaid parking tickets. In 2023, the California Court of Appeal held that San Francisco's policy of towing lawfully and safely parked vehicles without a warrant, solely due to unpaid parking tickets, violates the California constitution.
- Marshall Arnwein
Person
The ACLU recommends exhausting all non enforcement mechanisms against community members as a case study to learn if this will improve reducing illegal dumping. The Oakland's audit report provides numerous economically viable solutions to prevent illegal dumping that is not economically punitive to Oakland residents. For example, the city should strengthen its commercial enforcement strategies to identify and penalize the thousands of local businesses currently operating without mandatory garbage collection contracts.
- Marshall Arnwein
Person
The city should also address the underlying economic drivers of the crisis by making legal waste disposal less expensive and more convenient for residents to deter the displacement of waste onto public streets. For these reasons, we respect the request a no vote. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Looking to members of the public who would like to add on their opposition to this bill, please come to the mic at this time noting name, affiliation, and position. Seeing none, moving to members of this committee. We have a motion. I believe we have a, yes, we have a we have a motion and a second. Carrillo?
- Juan Carrillo
Legislator
Thank you, madam Chair. I wanna thank the author for bringing this measure forward. We know that illegal dumping is an issue across the state. The region that I represent, the Antelope Valley and the Victor Valley, the High Desert, we do have a serious problem with the with the high illegal dumping. The desert really has become a place where commercial dumping takes place.
- Juan Carrillo
Legislator
If you were able to see what's happening over there, you would think that there is a a dump site in the High Desert in various location, not just in one, but across the desert. So I'm happy to support this, and I thank you for bringing this forward. Thank you.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Thank you very much, madam Chair. Senator, you brought in the big guns. That's not right. I I think that madam Chair, I think you're you're you're right on it. I mean, I'm I'm more scared of the boot than I am the DMV action.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
I'll tell you that right now. And so I got a boot once, and I never did that again. So not for dumping, of course. Not for dumping. But overall, there's no doubt for those of us also who are districts, whether we have large vacant lots and we have a lot of land of available, there's certainly there are certainly, unfortunately, people who are taking advantage of that, and I'm sure cost creating such a cost at the local level.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So thank you very much, madam mayor, for highlighting this issue and ensuring that we really offer a real deterrent and something that's really can really teach a lesson in terms of making sure that people are respecting their neighbors, respecting their communities, and respecting other people's communities who are actually going out further to others to be able to dump. So I look forward to supporting this bill.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
Yes. Very briefly. So first of all, I wanna commend the author on working with the committee because that's hard, you know, to have folks, you know, tinker with your bill. But I wanna say that you ended in, I think, a better place because, one, it's you you could create two double negatives with people now driving on licenses without registration.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
I think this is definitely an incentive, but I also wanna recognize that the opposition had some really good points that could possibly be considered in conjunction to what you have presented here because there is, you know, an opportunity for us to make sure that people who do wanna, you know, be able to get rid of household waste and things like that can do that.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
But I wanna say that I really appreciate that this bill gets at the heart of the matter, which is disincentivizing, folks who are going to and what we normally see is they go to the poor neighborhoods and they dump off things because they already have blight. And, it's just not fair.
- Rhodesia Ransom
Legislator
It's not okay. And I think that this is a great compromise on this bill. And so, hopefully, you and the opposition can work together to maybe add some of those other things, and thank you for bringing it.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Seeing no others, just appreciate the opportunity, to work with you on this bill. As you know, I had concerns with it being on DMV registration for a couple of things. One of the things that at this committee, we always get is this involvement in DMV adding this extreme cost.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And when we have a DMV fund that our our, not our motor motor vehicle fund being close to insolvent, it poses a lot of issues and good bills go to die when when you get to a Props because of that.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
But also, as my colleague noted is we want people to register their vehicles. And if you don't register your vehicle because there's this large ticket on there, that means the state doesn't get these resources as it relates to registration, which goes to our motor vehicle count, plus our roads. And in addition, six months later, that vehicle can now be towed.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And that person is in a worse situation because now they have a towed vehicle and they have to pay fees at a towing facility very different than that immediate deal locally with the boot. And so I think that that is a one time charge versus an ongoing charge, and so it helps.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
So I appreciate you working with this committee to figure out, a way forward and into making that happen. And thank you, Madam Mayor, for your leadership, into addressing the needs of your constituent. And as members on this committee have noted, who've served in local gov, we heard it too, and we hear it even as Assembly members. And so thank you for taking charge at that. We have a motion made by Sharp-Collins and a seconded by Davies. I'll give you an opportunity to close, sir.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Well, once again, thank you very much, madam Chair, and to committee staff for your work and partnership with my office. I think we land in a much better place. That's gonna be easier for cities like Oakland to implement. And, I wanna thank mayor Lee for taking the time to be here. I think it demonstrates the importance of this issue to the city of Oakland.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And I wanna thank her for her leadership in tackling this intractable issue. And, you know, to the opposition witness, happy to continue conversations. I just wanna acknowledge the the work that is happening in Oakland focusing the three e's of eradication, education, and enforcement. And there's a great deal of work that's happening, through not just increasing removal of waste, you know, having partnerships with community based organizations, the work with the the private sector.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
The mayor was able to secure a multimillion dollar grant to to expand enforcement efforts to address illegal dumping in Oakland.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
But the enforcement piece is the challenge. That's what this bill gets to. And once again, you know, the penal code already has provisions that allow courts to consider cases of hardship in determining whether to impose these fines. There are these a mechanism to consider hardship, and this is not dealing with somebody who's just dumping waste at a at a street corner one time or somebody who's unhoused.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
It's people, mostly businesses, that consistently dump waste, large quantities of waste in our neighborhoods, in on our streets, in our public spaces causing significant harm in environmental impacts. That's what this bill is seeking to address with that respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Committee Secretary
SB 1218, the motion is do passed as amended to the Appropriations Committee. [Roll call]
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. We'll hold that roll open for members to be able to add on. Thank you. With that, we'll move on to item number five, SB 739. Once our witnesses are set, you may begin at your convenience.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Well, good evening once again, madam Chair, members of the Assembly Transportation Committee. It's my pleasure to present Senate bill 739.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
This bill would upgrade the Clean Mile standard and incentive program to ensure that the program is meeting its greenhouse gas emissions and electric vehicle miles travel targets that transportation network companies or TNCs need to comply with.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
I want to once again thank the Chair and the committee for the work with my office and our sponsors on the amendments that were put in print last week, and so we did accept the committee amendments.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
The bill as amended would allow the California Air Resources Board and the California Public Utilities Commission to adjust the current clean mile standard targets, so that they reflect the changing policy and, economic landscape relating to electric vehicles.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
As a strong climate supporter, it is unfortunate that the current Federal Government has been so hostile toward California's climate targets, and the modest adjustments in my bill will allow for the Clean Mile standard to continue to be on a trajectory to grow the zero-emission market for TNC drivers, which was the original goal of the legislation.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Without these changes in this bill, we would be placing hundreds of thousands of California rideshare drivers in a difficult position where they could lose platform access, if they don't adopt zero emission vehicles.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Many of these drivers are working a second or third job to help make ends meet, and we do not yet provide assistance to these drivers to purchase ZEVs through the driver assistance fund even though that fund was created several years ago and fees are going towards that fund.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Currently, the clean mile standard is requiring TNCs and drivers to meet an electric vehicle's miles traveled target of 13% by 2025, and that target more than triples next year to 50%.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
The bill as amended with the committee's amendments would provide for interim targets of 17% by 2027 and 19% by 2028 so that we can continue to make progress on these targets while the respective state agencies work through adjustments.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Finally, before I introduce this bill, one of the points of feedback that I received was that the law as written did not provide state agencies with the flexibility that was needed to adjust the targets. As written, the law only allows for either implementing the targets or delaying them. My bill will provide that flexibility expressly.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Ultimately, this is about making sure that we are moving towards a transition of our TNC vehicles towards zero emissions, which is an important goal just like we're moving other vehicle fleets towards zero emissions.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Recognizing the significant changes in the economic and policy landscape, the loss of federal incentives, changes to the EV market, which make it more difficult to procure these vehicles.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
It's not about going backwards. It's about making sure that we can move forwards in a way that's workable for the drivers, the companies, and for the state as well. With me to testify are the cosponsors of the bill, John Finley representing Uber and Malcolm McFarland representing Lyft.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Gentlemen, just to remind you, you have two minutes each. Thank you.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
Good evening, Chair and members. My name is Malcolm Macfarlane the second here on behalf of Lyft in support of Senate Bill 739. Lyft would like to thank Chair Wilson and this committee for the thoughtful engagement on this issue.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
California deserves the climate policy that works, and Senate bill 739 updates the original 2018 clean mile standard targets to reflect the realities of what's achievable today. To be clear, Lyft is committed to supporting California's climate goals and has demonstrated that commitment in action.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
We have met every EVMT target since the Clean Mile standard took effect, electrifying our platform at over twice the statewide adoption rate since 2023. Also, we have invested over $64,000,000 in driver bonuses, EV rentals, and in app tools to make driving electric easier.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
Lyft remains committed to continuing those investments, which this bill appropriately directs the commission to consider when evaluating any enforcement action.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
California's clean mile standard targets were set using 2018 data before a global pandemic reshaped rideshare, before the federal EV tax credit was eliminated, and before $5,000,000,000 in EV charging infrastructure funding was halted. These are documented and structural barriers.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
For many drivers, affordability and availability remain real challenges that fall disproportionately on low- and moderate-income drivers. Notably, the CPUC's own unanticipated barriers report recommends pausing enforcement of these targets that acknowledges are no longer achievable.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
Senate bill 739 fills that gap and makes reasonable adjustments to the CMS program supported by a two-year review process and requires an annual EVMT increase to ensure continued progress toward electrification and note until new targets are adopted and implemented by the board.
- Malcolm McFarland
Person
Achieving California's climate goals require targets grounded in current market realities. Lyft would like to thank Senator Erdogan and his for his leadership on this important issue and Assembly member Jackson for his co-sponsorship, and we respectfully ask this committee for your support on this bill. Thank you.
- John Finley
Person
Good evening, madam Chair, members. John Finley here on behalf of Uber in strong support of Senate Bill 739. Uber is still deeply committed to a zero-emission future. We've invested hundreds of millions of dollars in driver incentives, vehicle discounts, education initiatives, and charging partnerships, and it's working.
- John Finley
Person
Today, nearly one in five miles on the Uber platform in the state of California is already fully electric, but the current CMS framework is no longer economically or technically feasible.
- John Finley
Person
This perfect storm of high electricity costs, rising interest rates, elimination of federal tax credits, and ongoing constraints on EV supply and access to affordable public charging infrastructure led the CPUC staff just last week, to recommend a three year pause on the CMS program.
- John Finley
Person
Forcing an unworkable standard on TNCs won't accelerate EV adoption faster than it's already happening. It will simply risk the premature deactivation of thousands of low-income working Californians who cannot yet afford or otherwise unable to transition to electric vehicles. SB 739 provides a realistic and durable path forward.
- John Finley
Person
It provides CARB with the authority to recalibrate the CMS targets in light of existing market conditions and the most up to date data. CARB can then more regularly reevaluate and adjust those targets based on future market conditions and policies.
- John Finley
Person
Currently, CARB and CPUC only possess the authority to delay adoption or implementation of the existing targets and its trajectory. Despite significant challenges, Uber is not backing away.
- John Finley
Person
This year alone, we committed a $100,000,000 to expand public fast charging globally and launched a nationwide go electric grant program offering a $4,000 incentive for drivers who make the switch to EVs.
- John Finley
Person
We are doing our part, and we ask California to continue to do the same by passing a flexible framework that protects drivers while continuing climate progress. We thank Senator Aragin for bringing this issue forward. Respectfully urge an aye vote on SB 739. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving on to members of the committee who would like to show their support. Not committee. Sorry. Members of the public. Name, affiliation, and position.
- Timothy Byrd
Person
Timothy Byrd Junior on behalf of Cal Asian Chamber and TechNet in support. Thank you.
- Bill McGavin
Person
Good evening, madam Chair and members. Bill McGavin with the Coalition for Clean Air. We worked with Senator Skinner several years ago on the legislation that required the establishment the queen miles standard. And the impetus behind that was the fact that the ride hailing vehicles are taking a disproportionate amount of the miles traveled on our roads and therefore account, if they're in internal combustion engines, for a disproportionate amount of the air pollutants and greenhouse gases emitted. So that rationale still holds today.
- Bill McGavin
Person
However, we do agree that we're facing challenges to transportation electrification that we did not have before the Trump administration launched its war on California's air quality. I wanna thank the the committee and the author and the sponsors for last week's amendments, which really do fix a lot of the flaws that we saw in the bill. And so, I think we're getting closer together.
- Bill McGavin
Person
However, we still have problems with some of the language, particularly the provision the commission shall not adopt or enforce any penalties against TNCs for failure to meet any targets or goals. The legislature should not be immunizing anybody for their noncompliance.
- Bill McGavin
Person
We also think the interim targets are too low and that the factors to be considered for the future targets tilt towards nonambition. But, look forward to continuing to work on this bill.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Chair and members. I'm doctor Benjamin Liu, and I'm the cleaner advocacy manager for the American Lung Association. We joined the Coalition for Clean Air and Others in respectful opposition to SB 739. According to the American Lung Association's latest state of the airport, over 80% of Californians still live in communities impacted by unhealthy levels of air pollution.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
Fuel combustion in the transportation sector is the primary source for smog forming ozone pollution and a significant contributor to fine PM 2.5 particles. This pollution leads to to both acute and chronic health emergencies such as asthma, heart attacks and stroke, developmental harm, lung cancer, and premature death. These are costly and disruptive health emergencies that strain family budgets and contribute to the affordability crisis in our state.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
SB 739 seeks to make changes that undermine the effectiveness of the Clean Miles Standard at a time when California's clean air programs are under attack by the federal administration challenging our ability to protect our health. This program passed in this body in 2018 and was designed designed to reduce emissions from transportation network companies by making it easier for drivers to switch to zero emission vehicles.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
TNC vehicles travel significantly more miles per year than equivalent personal vehicles and represent an outsized portion of total light duty emissions. The latest amendments in print, we appreciate the latest amendments in print as of June 25. We think they're a step in the right direction. But we as my colleague said, we think there's still some more work to do.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
Specifically, the the amendments prescribed decelerating targets in 2027 and 2028, which run counter to the mission of the program to drive ZEV adoption to meet the state's impending 2030 emissions goals.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
We support efforts to quickly disperse funds from the existing driver's assistance program for the benefit of transitioning low and medium income drivers to EVs and encourage the bill sponsors to do so as well. No text in the current bill as amended gives direction to PUC to this effect. Absent further direction, PUC is on track to begin distributing funds by September of this year. For these reasons, we respectfully urge the committee to vote no on SB 739.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
With with the Federal Government dismantling clean air policies, it's important for California to uphold its clean air programs.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Thank you. With that, we'll move on to members of the public who would like to note their opposition, including name, affiliation, and position.
- Rebecca Marcus
Person
Good evening, Chair and members. Rebecca Marcus on behalf of the Union of Concerned Scientists in opposition. Thank you.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Thank you, Senator, for bringing this really thoughtful bill forward. I appreciate all the work that you've done in this space. And and, you know, just as a member from the Bay Area as a whole, I appreciate I appreciate your work on this and and your very long experience in on the local level serving as mayor as well. I'd love to be added as a co author and move the bill. Thank you, madam Chair.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
Thank you very much, Senator, for for doing this bill. Obviously, you know, I represent this body on CARB, and I and I believe that this is one of those examples where a cookie cutter approach does not always solve the problems we're trying to solve. Particularly, what's concerning to me with the current regulations is that who's most likely to be a Uber or Lyft driver? What type of income are they trying to achieve?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
But then also with this regulation, then now say, because I can't afford an EV vehicle, am I not able to then provide for my family or whatever else I'm trying to do?
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And I don't think that that is that that would be appropriate given the population they may that actually utilize the work provided the gig work provided by Lyft and and Uber drivers. And and such a mandate I mean, we we're having a hard enough time trying to continue to provide subsidies for people to buy new EV vehicles. We've yet to really do enough on used EV vehicles.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And God forbid, you live in an apartment complex and you don't even have the infrastructure to utilize an EV vehicle. So all that around, I think that if we're going to try to mandate these drivers, because that's what's gonna trickle down to, is what now type of drivers can participate in in this type of employment that we gotta have a more holistic approach that includes budget items with this.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So notwithstanding that, I believe that this is something, definitely, this bill is important because it doesn't just affect the companies, but it affects the ripple effects also goes down to people who are struggling, people who are trying to make a a a generate income on a daily basis. So thank you very much for this bill. Looking forward to continue to support it and looking forward to, helping us being steered when it gets to the floor.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
Yeah. Thank you, the Senator, for carrying this bill, and appreciate the comments, from doctor Jackson about the dilemma for drivers. And I really appreciate the comments from the companies about trying to lean into this challenge. We can't abandon the goal. We we can adjust the goal.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
And, clearly, the goal was unrealistic and needs to be adjusted. But I do think there's a balancing act between, you know, a cliff and ambition that needs to be pushed. And that's the challenge, is trying to find that balance point where we're making progress, we're actually addressing the the the issue, and, frankly, saving drivers money because it is economically advantageous to be operating electric vehicle compared to a combustion, fossil fuel vehicle. You're gonna save money on maintenance and and operational cost too.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
But that that hurdle of getting the electric vehicle is a challenge, and I appreciate that the companies are stepping up, providing some of that financial incentive.
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
And that's the space that I'd like to see us push harder. How how can the companies do more? How can we have realistic but ambitious goals?
- Gregg Hart
Legislator
And, you know, I think this bill is on that path, and we'll continue to be paying attention and looking and trying to hear more from the companies and from the sponsors, about how we can do that and find that sweet spot, make this effective, and have the right impact on the driving community and the air pollution in our communities as well. So thanks for your work together.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Thank you, madam Chair. I wanna thank the author for bringing this forward, and I'm gonna take a moment just to really note that we have to underscore that, yes, there's been a slowdown of ZEV adoptions, but that is specifically because of these federal rollbacks and a lot of the policies that are hitting California hard. We know that prior to those happening that we are having on a quarterly basis nearly 24, 25% and rising percentage of new vehicles sold that were fully electric.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And that was to be celebrated because our incentives are working. They're making it so that that price point is coming into play where more and more Californians are able to be able to choose that as a good option right now.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And, yes, we were probably on the precipice of being able to do a lot more work on the used vehicle on the second generation systems right now. And so it's no surprise that slow vehicle ZEV adoption is now the new newer normal that we're in, but that was a policy choice that is failing, I think, these goals that we could be making right now.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
So I recognize that you're trying to be able to align a program that really started and predated that also had laudable goals about where we're heading right now.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And wanted to thank you for taking the committee amendments that I think are starting to be able to really marry that because the question that I had, and I wonder if you could respond to this, is that one thing I didn't wanna be able to see was somehow a differential treatment right now of one user, one vehicle type over the general public. Right?
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And recognizing that these are vehicles users that are probably producing a lot more vehicle miles traveled out there right now. It's especially important that we are having parity right now in how we are aligning, you know, our our program goals, modified that they may be in the new era that we're in. How how how can you respond to, with these amendments, how things might be moving forward as far as that issue of parity?
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Certainly. Well, thank you very much, Assemblymember, for the question. The intention of the bill and and and the amendments is not to suspend the the program. Right? It's to phase in implementation of program with targets that more realistically reflect the availability of ZEVs and the ability of the comp of the drivers and the companies to be able to implement this mandate.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And one key component of this as was referenced by opposition is the fund that the CPUC administers, which a surcharge is collect on every single ride and money is being collected in that fund and the and the agency has yet to administer any money towards drivers to provide a monetary incentives for them to purchase ZEVs. We hope that that will change soon.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Based on my conversations with CPUC, it sounds like that's in progress. So we don't I don't think we necessarily need to prescribe that they have to expend that money as they're in the process of doing that. But that's one step. But, you know, we have electrification goals for light and heavy duty vehicles. We're obviously trying to, you know, increase the private individuals' adoption of ZEVs and really focusing on infrastructure, you know, in order to help increase the, the purchasing and adoption of ZEVs.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
This is intended to help keep the goal of the Clean Mile Standard moving forward, but to provide the the the direction and flexibility to adjust the targets to phase in over time, so that the the implementation can reflect the realities of the current market and the availability of of vehicles in the market as well.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Very much. Yeah. I get I think, you know, that that that that that nuance, that distinction that you're talking about here with where we're at with this bill and and the and the improved amendments you're having. And then just one question for the opposition because I recognize that amendments can sometimes kinda come in meaningful that they are, and you've I appreciate that you're recognizing those as well as a significant step in the right direction.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
And and I I may have mis transcribed something that you were saying here too about, you know, maybe continued concern, something you were looking at.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
But the idea that that, I I think this is your your quote, that that CARB, you know, still would need to be able to, I think, recalibrate some of its programs. That's something they can already do right now under the existing CMS program. Do you still see a disconnect or a disalignment if if, in this amended version, this now becomes a new standard that the the CMS program could still be able to sort of, you know, help to kind of, like, connect these dots?
- Bill McGavin
Person
I actually did not testify to that, because the the amendments actually changed that situation. So, no, that that was not part of my testimony.
- Bill McGavin
Person
I was talking about the way that this language sets up the future targets.
- Bill McGavin
Person
And, you know, I think some of those factors make sense, but there is a reference there to the rate of adoption in the general public. And this is really a different sector from the general public. So that to me would kind of militate towards a target that's less ambitious than it should be.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Would you say that that target is any different than a target that we might be now headed towards given
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Assemblymember Ward if, you, we can hold one second just to clarify. The original bill's language had a correlation between the general public and the TNCs, we did remove that language in the amendment.
- Bill McGavin
Person
So I'm referring to page seven of the amended bill line 38 where it says the review shall include but is not limited to review of, and it says data relative to current and future electric transportation adoption rates for the general public.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Okay. So that is what I would call a a reason for opening the for them to adjust, a reason to that could be a reason why they would adjust, but there's no requirement that they then factor that in to that adjustment. And so it's just a reason for opening the book, so to speak, to say, okay.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We might need to readjust this because we see a huge disconnect, but we intentionally did not keep language that said that they had to actually consider that when adopting the rule. It's just a reason to start the conversation that the rule might need to be adjust.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And that was very distinct, for me as Chair, is that it could be a reason why you'd wanna adjust the rule, but not there shouldn't be any because we really don't have a correlation for you to use and considering what the new rule should be.
- Bill McGavin
Person
The change you made was very significant. I think just maybe going forward, we might wanna review this language, make sure we've got the factors right.
- Chris Ward
Legislator
Yeah. Madam Chair, I think you answered my question more eloquently, so I appreciate that. I wanna thank everyone for working on this bill and look forward to seeing it move forward.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
Hi. So I too would like to thank the Senator for bringing forth the bill. I just wanted to share a couple of things as the assistant majority leader of for policy and and research. I had research done into the challenges facing the state as we work to reach our self goals. And so we currently have ambitious climate goals that we want to meet, but we must also pair those goals with the reality of our current political and economic situation.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
When we talk about ZEV sales for 2025, they were significantly below the 35% goal for '26, making it nearly impossible to meet the 2030 climate goals. And so I'm sharing that, as we continue to move forward and and have these conversations, but I do want to appreciate the author's effort to ensure that we can strike some type of balance between meeting goals and the affordability and TNC drivers being able to continue supporting their overall families.
- Lashae Sharp-Collins
Legislator
So, yeah, so with that, I will be moving forward with the bill. But I just wanted to state the fact that we did have some research done to help highlight some of the key concerns that we will be facing moving forward in regards to reaching these goals. So I just wanna share that with you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Okay. Seeing no other comments. First of all, thank you for bringing this forward. I appreciate your work from your staff and the sponsors, really to find a viable path forward. Transportation network companies or TNC, as you've all, heard here from the public, have reshaped mobility across the globe over the past decade.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And one of the negative side effects of TNC driver, I'm sorry, is that TNC drivers have an outside impact on emissions due to the number of miles driven without passengers. The state recognized this impact and created the Clean Mile Standard, which is meant to reduce emissions from the vehicle fleets that TNCs rely on. Due to many headwinds facing the zero emission vehicle market, the target set in the Clean Miles Standard are no longer achievable at their current rate.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
So this bill will require TNCs to continue to make progress in cutting emissions while our state agency revisit the emission targets. So I will be supporting your bill today.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
A motion has been made by Aguiar-Curry and seconded by Ahrens. I'll give you an opportunity to close, sir.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
Well, thank you very much once again, madam Chair, for your work on this bill. I think it's moving it in a much better direction trying to strike that balance as members talked about. And thank you to the committee members for the thoughtful comments and to the opposition as well. And we look forward to continued conversations. I think we have the shared goal of wanting to make sure that this program works.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
And, you know, the opposition talked about the impact of our cleaner policies and cleaner goals as a representative of West Oakland, which is an AB 617 community. You know, they're they're dealing with significant impacts due to the impact of light and heavy duty vehicles on asthma and other health impacts that my constituents are facing. No doubt that the reason that we're in this situation is because of actions by this federal administration to suspend incentives and to undermine California's clean air policies.
- Jesse Arreguin
Legislator
It's important that we continue to demonstrate leadership. We wanna make sure that we adjust targets and implement this program in a way that is setting us up for success and not failure, that we're gonna get these funds out the door to help drivers be able to make that transition towards ZEV, and that we can consider market conditions as we're adjusting and implementing this program. I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Committee Secretary
SB 739, the motion is do passed to the communications and conveyance committee.[Roll call]
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
All right. We'll hold the roll open for members to be able to add on. Thank you. All right. To our next author, thank you for your patience.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
I hope we've been a little bit entertaining for you. Moving on to file item 11, SB 1087.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
I'm here to wish share happy birthday and also, incidentally, to present SB1087
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Before rumors get started, somebody has been saying it's my birthday. I have gotten It's not. It is technically not my birthday today, but it is the early birthday wishes I'm down for. So there we go. We're just we're less than thirty days away. So from now on, I think from now until my birthday, I'm expecting a happy birthday wish every single day. With that, you may begin.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
It is technically not my birthday today, but it is the early birthday wishes I'm down for. So there we go. We're just we're less than thirty days away. So from now on, I think from now until my birthday, I'm expecting a happy birthday wish every single day. With that, you may begin.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
Thank you, madam Chair. So it in eighteen years ago, the legislature enacted and the governor signed SB 375, which was the landmark law in California and in the country that for the first time integrated tran transportation planning investments, land use, air and, criteria air pollution control, and importantly, industry three seventy five climate change and climate objectives under the theory that if regions, could plan and invest for sustainable communities, smart growth, and effective transit systems to support them, that we could deliver substantial climate benefits and meet the state's climate targets.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
So it in eighteen years ago, the legislature enacted and the governor signed SB 375, which was the landmark law in California and in the country that for the first time integrated tran transportation planning investments, land use, air and, criteria air pollution control, and importantly, industry three seventy five climate change and climate objectives under the theory that if regions, could plan and invest for sustainable communities, smart growth, and effective transit systems to support them, that we could deliver substantial climate benefits and meet the state's climate targets.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
I was here, not in this building, but over in the other one testifying in support of it because SB 375 was was based on the Sacramento region's, blueprint for the future project, and I was the Chair of SACOG. And and the bill and the projects throughout the state and all the regions won all every possible national award from business, from housing, from the environmental community, and others, and there was great expectation about how these would work.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
Now the the the policy is still right, but the system that we have built to get there is fraying a bit, and it consumes more resources in the process than in the in achieving the goals. And so SB 1087 is attempt to modernize SB 375 in a way to help to improve our achievements of the sustainability and climate goals by making the process more effective and more aligned with our state and regional goals.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And so SB 1087 is attempt to modernize SB 375 in a way to help to improve our achievements of the sustainability and climate goals by making the process more effective and more aligned with our state and regional goals.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
The this is a comp this is the most in all my years in the legislature, all one and a half of them, this is the most delicately balanced, piece of legislation that I have worked on personally, as we've attempted to bring together over the last now year a a group of a broad group of stakeholders from every segment of interested parties.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
And that's Because there have been several other bills in the past met maybe some have been introduced here, to try to deal with issues with SB 375. And the the road or the class three bikeway is littered with debt legislation, because no it it all all the interests have ganged up on each other, and we've gotten they've not been able to get anything done.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
So our effort this year was to assemble this the broadest possible group of stakeholders in order to craft a a solution to modernization of SB 375 that would win the broadest support. And so I'm I'm I'm thank you very much to the Chair for both the necessary grace and the necessary termination of grace in order to get to an agreement in which most everybody around the table and this is months and months, hours and hundreds of hours of time. Most everyone was able to accomplish 30 or 35% of what they wanted and only had to give up 15% of what they didn't want.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And so I'm I'm I'm thank you very much to the Chair for both the necessary grace and the necessary termination of grace in order to get to an agreement in which most everybody around the table and this is months and months, hours and hundreds of hours of time. Most everyone was able to accomplish 30 or 35% of what they wanted and only had to give up 15% of what they didn't want.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
So you will not see rab ram rabbit enthusiasm that you like excitement about this bill because there are a lot of trade offs that are involved as we try to make sure that this is an effective and efficient process. Thank you. So so I say that just a couple of the key the key highlights here.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
The bill the bill really is intended to focus on implementation. Under current law, regions are expected to produce sustainable community strategies as a connection with a regional transportation program every four years. As a former cog Chair, I've participated in one hundred years of sustainable community strategies by doing four SCSs, in that process. This bill would change that to every eight years. As a as a one side example, SANDAG in San Diego says that in their last, SES RTPF that they spent $40,000,000 on the plan.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
That doesn't deliver any project or implement anything, simply the plan. That's not a sustainable, way to do sustainable communities planning. So the bill, changes that that that that time window to eight years instead of four and requires an implementation progress report in between to hold the process accountable. It also recognizes that since SB 375, the state has made pretty radical changes to our housing policies, including linking SB 375 implementation in time and space to the RHNA regional housing needs allocation process. And this bill expressly includes housing and housing affordability in the goals that are required to be set in the targets.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
It also recognizes that since SB 375, the state has made pretty radical changes to our housing policies, including linking SB 375 implementation in time and space to the RHNA regional housing needs allocation process. And this bill expressly includes housing and housing affordability in the goals that are required to be set in the targets.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
The and and the bill requires CARB to reconvene its regional targets advisory committee to balance all of these goals, as we achieve the greenhouse gas the greenhouse gas emission, targets. And then finally, the the bill, tries to earn the the trust that is needed, by accounting for the existing conditions, some of the electrical v electric vehicle conversation that you already, that you just had, and also to preserve CARB's ability to oversee and to guide the process, but also providing real process accountability so that regions can take action in order to to succeed.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
And then finally, the the bill, tries to earn the the trust that is needed, by accounting for the existing conditions, some of the electrical v electric vehicle conversation that you already, that you just had, and also to preserve CARB's ability to oversee and to guide the process, but also providing real process accountability so that regions can take action in order to to succeed.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
And in doing so, also recognizing that the state has a key role to play and that under SB 375, the regions have made plans, prioritize transportation investments, and sometimes the state does not do its part and align its own investments within those regions to achieve those goals. And we can't regions cannot achieve the goals that the state's not a good neighbor and a good partner in doing so, and this bill seems to maximize seeks to maximize that alignment.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
And so, again, I really wanna thank the the Chair and the staff of this committee. We would not be here today without you, and also all of the stakeholders, whether they are here today in support, whether they're here supportive amended, whether they're here respectful, opposed. We have really, a a a a a lot of folks have really gone the extra mile in order to try to achieve this level of modernization. This is not the be all and end all of every possible thing you can do in SB 375.
- Corey Jackson
Legislator
We would not be here today without you, and also all of the stakeholders, whether they are here today in support, whether they're here supportive amended, whether they're here respectful, opposed. We have really, a a a a a lot of folks have really gone the extra mile in order to try to achieve this level of modernization. This is not the be all and end all of every possible thing you can do in SB 375.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
I know everybody around the table in our stakeholder group has much bigger plans that they'd like to pursue, but this bill provides the foundational modernization of f SB 375 to make sure that it is efficient, that allows us to actually achieve those goals and and maximize the likelihood that we will do so. And with that, madam, I'm sure I would like to ask for an aye vote and introduce, the witnesses on the bill today.
- Unidentified SpeakerID Pending
James Corliss, executive director of the Sacramento Area Council of Governments, and Kome Ajise, the executive director of the Southern California Association of Governments.
- Kome Ajise
Person
Good evening, Chair Wilson and members of the committee. My name is Komei Ajise. I'm the executive director of the Southern California Association of Governments, and, we are a proud sponsor of ten eighty seven. And it's great to be here. I also wanna thank Senator Kabaldin for taking on this challenge and leading the effort on on ten eighty seven.
- Kome Ajise
Person
At SCAG, we are charged with what the Senator talked about, preparing SESs, and we've done this from the very beginning. And we know the ins and outs of how this is done. We are not walking away from the need to do SESs. In fact, the March has strengthened the work we do in regional planning and and also strengthen the coordination between land use and transportation. It's done this well.
- Kome Ajise
Person
But over time, we've lost effectiveness. And what we're asking for in in October is the opportunity to modernize, the process. Our last recent SES, which was in 2024, took us four years to prepare and over $20,000,000 to complete to complete. Now in the in the process, we we went back and forth with with our counterparts at CARB, and we did not improve any project in the process. And it took three hundred and nine days to get through it.
- Kome Ajise
Person
Now in in all in all honesty, this was this has just been overlay overlay of process over time. And so we find ourselves in a position where we feel like it is good government to, in fact, work on modernizing October. With the 2035 deadline fast approaching, the state's four largest MPOs get came together and brought together all of these stakeholders that that Senator Kabaldin talked about in an in an attempt to fix what's not working in March and spend less time on technical compliance and more time on implementing strategies and delivering results. In the end, this bill reflects a tremendous amount of work that's gone into collaboration, and we sincerely appreciate all of the time that's been put into it because it's enough or not.
- Unidentified Speaker 039ID Pending
With the 2035 deadline fast approaching, the state's four largest MPOs get came together and brought together all of these stakeholders that that Senator Kabaldin talked about in an in an attempt to fix what's not working in March and spend less time on technical compliance and more time on implementing strategies and delivering results. In the end, this bill reflects a tremendous amount of work that's gone into collaboration, and we sincerely appreciate all of the time that's been put into it because it's enough or not.
- Kome Ajise
Person
And it's brought a lot of stakeholders to the table and including this committee staff, and we appreciate all that effort. Their expertise has really helped to work through all the concerns and hopefully resolve many of the issues in build consensus. So I wanna thank you for this opportunity, and we'll happy we'll be happy to answer any questions. We we humbly ask an aye vote on this bill.
- Unidentified Speaker 039ID Pending
Their expertise has really helped to work through all the concerns and hopefully resolve many of the issues in build consensus. So I wanna thank you for this opportunity, and we'll happy we'll be happy to answer any questions. We we humbly ask an aye vote on this bill.
- James Corless
Person
Good evening, Chair Wilson, committee members. I'm, James Corless, executive director of the Sacramento Area Council of Governments or SACOG, and we're a proud cosponsor of SB 1087. For us at SACOG, the challenge is not just developing a vision for a more sustainable future, but the challenge is actually implementing it. Last November, our board adopted our long range plan, the 2025 blueprint. It's a plan that prepares our region for 600,000 more people, 260,000 more jobs, 278,000 more homes by 2050.
- James Corless
Person
But the adoption of that plan was never intended to be the finish line. It was the starting point for implementation. An example of this implementation that is gonna be facilitated by SB 1087 is a very bottom up program we developed here in this region called Green Means Go. Green Means Go has invested nearly $30,000,000 in backbone infrastructure to unlock infill development in locally designated green zones or infill areas that came directly out of our our last sustainable community strategy.
- James Corless
Person
Those investments are expected to unlock 8,000 infill housing units, approximately 6,000 of which will be affordable homes.
- James Corless
Person
And today in our region, 28 cities and counties have adopted these green zones, aligning local land use decision decisions with our regional vision. Thanks to the legislature's action several years ago, we've used our regional early action pro program, REAP funding to help our cities and counties update zoning, remove barriers to housing production, and advance implementation ready projects. Those implementation efforts are paying off. In 2024, our region saw the highest number of housing production numbers that we've had in two decades.
- James Corless
Person
We had more multifamily units built than we've had this century, and one third of all the units in our region were built in these green zones, and that's a tripling over five years since this program began began.
- James Corless
Person
So SB 1087 helps uS Build on that kind of momentum by extending the SES update cycle to eight years, aligning state investments with adopted regional plan, the bill allows us to spend less time on planning and updating our plans and more time delivering housing, infrastructure, and transportation projects. It makes the SCS a stronger project delivery tool, not just a planning document. And with that, I respectfully request your aye vote on SB 1087.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. With that, we'll move to members of the public, for your to register your support for this bill. Name, affiliation, and position.
- Unidentified Speaker 017ID Pending
Good evening. Chris Lee on behalf of the Eastern Contra Costa Transit Authority and the Sonoma County Transportation and Climate Authorities, both in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
Thank you, madam Chair and members. Lauren de Valencia representing the city of Rio Vista in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 021ID Pending
Thank you, Michelle Robalcaba with Nielsen Reximer on behalf of the Yolo County Board of Supervisors in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 035ID Pending
Good evening, Chair Vincenzo Caparelli on behalf of California Association of Council Governments in support.
- Zak Accuardi
Person
Good evening, Chair and members. Kirk Blackburn here on behalf of the San Diego Association of Governments or SANDAG, one of the co sponsors of the bill, in support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 017ID Pending
Good evening, madam Chair and members. Jordan Grimes on behalf of Greenbelt Alliance and the Student Homes Coalition. Strong support today. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 018ID Pending
Sharon Gonzales on behalf of the city of El Cerrito in support.
- Unidentified Speaker 041ID Pending
Good evening, Chair and members. Matthew Baker with claim conservation. They were in a support if amended position. We really appreciate all the time and effort that the the author and the MPOs and all the stakeholders put into this and look forward to continuing the conversation.
- Unidentified Speaker 009ID Pending
Clifton Wilson on behalf of the Placer County Board of Supervisors in support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 016ID Pending
Michael Pimentel with the California Transit Association in support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 011ID Pending
Julie Snyder with Bill cosponsor MTC ABAG, in strong support. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 005ID Pending
Happy birthday, Chair and members. Mark Fucovich on behalf of Streets for All. Support if amended. Would love to get to a support position.
- Unidentified Speaker 008ID Pending
Totally stole my line. Matt Robinson on behalf of the Solano Transportation Authority in support. Okay.
- Unidentified Speaker 042ID Pending
Good evening, madam Chair. Chris Schumona on behalf of the California Trucking Association. Just wanna give a huge thank to the author. Thank you to the author and sponsors for working with us on the freight issues in the bill and with the amendments we are neutral. Thank you.
- Unidentified Speaker 013ID Pending
Damon Conklin with LEAGUE California Cities. We're supportive of the conversation. We appreciate the collaboration, and we'll be, hopefully working with the author as the bill moves forward. Thank you.
- Rebecca Marcus
Person
Good evening, Chair and members. Jeanne Wardwaller for Climate Plan, Cal Bike, The Nature Conservancy, and Wildlife Conservation Network. We are in a supportive amended position. Really appreciate the author and sponsors for the long road we've been on and the Chair and your staff for the bill the amendments on
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
the bill. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Moving on to opposition.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We do have opposition, testimony today. You can come over to the dais and begin at your convenience.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We do have opposition, testimony today. You can come over to the dais and begin at your convenience.
- Ben Turner
Person
Thank you, sir. Thanks for giving voice to the opposition. Good evening, Chair and members. My name is Ben Turner on behalf of Axiom Advisors for the California Building Industry Association. I'd like to start by thanking the Senator and the MPOs and all the stakeholders for their hours of engagement, since the fall, on this bill.
- Ben Turner
Person
However, at this point, the California Building Industry Association remains in opposing unless amended position. CBIA's primary concern is the bill's incorporation of a new 2045 target into the SB 375 framework without a demonstrated road map road map showing how the target can be achieved, while also meeting California's housing obligations. The state has adopted ambitious housing production requirements, and CBIA members believe those obligations must be reconciled with long term climate targets before those targets become embedded in regional planning requirements.
- Ben Turner
Person
At a minimum, stronger language requiring the reconciliation should be added. Second, CBIA remains concerned that the target setting process does not adequately account for all state housing mandates and approved housing planning requirements.
- Ben Turner
Person
Housing elements and related planning obligations are not merely local preferences. They are state directed requirements that should be explicitly required to be fully integrated into climate target setting decisions. Finally, while CBIA appreciates efforts to broaden the factors considered in greenhouse gas reduction planning, they continue to believe the bill does not sufficiently ensure that emerging technologies, changing transportation patterns, and other non VMT strategies receive equal consideration alongside traditional land use and vehicle miles traveled approach approaches.
- Ben Turner
Person
For those reasons, with great respect for the work that has been done so far, we remain opposed unless amended today.
- Sofia Rafikova
Person
Good evening, Chair Wilson, members of the committee. I'm Sofia Rafikova with the Coalition for Clean Air. Wanted to thank the author for working with us, through the stakeholder process, to improve the bill. However, we do have an oppose and less amended position as we still have one major outstanding concern. SB 375 requires MPOs to develop a sustainable community strategies to showcase how the regional meet its regional GG targets.
- Sofia Rafikova
Person
If the region cannot show how it'll meet its targets, the MPO is required to develop an alternative planning strategy, APS instead. While the two plans are fairly similar, there is one key difference. Regions can only apply for SB 1 funding if they have an approved SES. And this vision is very similar to what we currently have in the Clean Air Act, where the federal government can choose to withhold highway dollars if California remains a nonattainment. It is here to ensure that regions are doing their utmost to reduce their climate emissions.
- Sofia Rafikova
Person
By getting rid of this provision, SB 1087 slackens the duties of MPOs to do their part to help our state become more sustainable. With the Trump administration continuously weakening environmental regulations, we need to do more, not less, to to prevent a climate catastrophe. Additionally, SB 1087 focuses on the trade corridor enhancement program and the solutions for congested corridors program as eligible sources of funding.
- Sofia Rafikova
Person
While there have been efforts to clean up both programs, data by Kosta shows that these are the two most polluting programs within SB 1. Giving access to MPOs to these funding sources would push regions further out of compliance, making it harder to get back on track.
- Sofia Rafikova
Person
And finally, amendments to this section have attempted to improve the language by requiring eligible projects to be GHG reducing. We do not believe that this language goes far enough as we have seen polluting projects be marked as reducing GHG due to inaccurate assumptions in the calculations of induced demand. We have provided alternative language to the author's office that would instead define what types of programs regions of with an APS would be eligible to apply to. Thank you for your consideration. Respectfully urge your no vote.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving on to members of the public who would like to register their opposition as well. Please, come to the mic. Now would be an appropriate time, name, affiliation, and position. Seeing it no other, bringing it back to committee members for any questions, comments, or concerns.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. Seeing none, and we have a motion. I'll just note first, I wanna commend the author for taking on such a complicated issue. I know you and your staff have worked directly, well, diligently and directly with stakeholders to strike a balanced path forward. Now one issue that everyone at the table seems to agree on is that SB 375 is not producing the results needed for regions to reach their GHG emission targets through land use, housing, and transportation planning.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Conversations have gone on for years about the right path to institute program reforms to streamline the sustainable community strategy program, also known as SCS. With the amendments made on June 25, this bill reflects agreement between many of the stakeholders at the table. As we heard today, some outstanding issues still remain. I encourage the author to continue to work with the relevant stakeholders to alleviate ongoing concerns. With that though, I will be supporting your bill today.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
You have a motion made by Aguiar-Curry and a second by Rogers. You may now close.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
Madam Chair, thank you so much. The as you can see, we're at that stage where all the the and this is actually a perfect distillation of where we are in the stakeholder conversations where there are folks who would like us to go further different directions. And and the challenge, of course, is that they're the rest of the of the of the delicately negotiated compromises would then collapse.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
And so this is this this is an important first step, and I I actually agree with both of the opposition witnesses. We SB 375 could be could do even more in incorporating state housing requirements into it, but this is the first time that it will be happening at a substantial scale.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
This is a a very big step forward, and SB 375 could be doing more in terms of the GHG issues that that that our our friends at the Coalition for for Clean Air have have also described. But this bill also goes further in terms of achieving those those emission reductions andG reductions as well. So this is this is the this is the important foundation for the future.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
We encourage other members to take on additional legislation next year to improve it even further. And just the only only other thing I would note is that when the bill was first passed, maybe it was the euphoria of the moment.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
We really did believe that virtually every region would be able to craft a sustainable community strategy and meet the CARB target through that. And the majority leader will note since she served on the SECOG board with me, when those targets come out and you're, like, you're one and a half pounds away from the target, like, you're doing everything that you can. The regions are trying.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
It's not that there's a lack of incentives, but we're in a situation today where many regions are not at the SCS stage and may instead be at the alternative planning scenario stage. And so carving out much of California from eligibility for SB 1 isn't an equitable approach at the at this stage.
- Christopher Cabaldon
Legislator
And so it's important that the policies keep driving the the performance. The regions do have the incentives. They need the ability to implement and not simply plan, and that's what this bill will do would urge your aye vote. And thank you so much.
- Committee Secretary
SB 1087, the motion do passed to the Appropriations Committee. [Roll call]
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We'll hold that roll open for members to be able to add on. Moving on to item 13. Item 12 is being presented by a member of this committee. So we will hold that until there's a break and authors. So item 13, SB 1198.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
On that note, I'll go a little faster. I know it's been a long night for everyone. How will oh, madam Chair, can I begin?
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I will be accept accepting the committee amendments that add a ten year washout period to the license suspension penalties for repeat offenses.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Colleagues, a group of us both in the Assembly and the Senate have a package looking to just address the article, the expose that came out on California, the license to kill, and how there's a a lot of gaps that exist in our system where people continue to get away with reckless driving, constant DUIs, and whether it's the DMV, whether there's gaps in how we address these things.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We need to do something, and this is just part of the puzzle here to address the ongoing fatal and serious injury collisions that we're seeing in California. In LA alone, reckless driving increased from by 138% from 2023 to 2024. And right now, you, as a owner of a vehicle, can go and claim your car sooner than its impoundment date by saying that you had no idea that the vehicle was being utilized for reckless driving.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
My my bill right now is looking to limit that ability to three times. After three times, I think it's the responsibility of the owner to preclude or prevent their loved ones from using their their car for continuously, recklessly driving and causing the life of so many other people that, like, my witness here you'll hear from. Through the amendment, we'll make sure that this only counts within a ten year period.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We also wanna make sure that we wanna increase the the time the and then that their license is suspended at a minimum from the first time, increasing the threshold of a a a Sec a Section on the Second offense and then so forth on the three offense still providing some kind of judicial authority when coming down on these consequences.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
We all know what we also wanna make sure if the the owner of the vehicle is claiming that they did not know that the vehicle was being,utilized for reckless driving, that they provide proof, they have to self attest, that they had no idea that that was being used.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
This is just one small step forward to closing this gap, madam Chair, and I'd like to now turn over to my witness in support of the bill.
- Emilia Snyder
Person
Good evening, everyone. My name is Emilia Snyder, Julian Snyder's mother. My precious son, Julian, was only 17 years old when he was killed on 11/16/2024 due to reckless driving that due to reckless driving. That night, Julian was on his way to get his youngest brother, whom had just been involved in a crash caused by another reckless driver. Julian trusted the driver.
- Emilia Snyder
Person
He was a passenger with to get him there safely. Instead, that driver chose to drive 85 miles per hour in a 45 mile per hour zone. The truck lost control, spun, rolled three times, and Julian was ejected. He died at the scene. Our lives changed forever that night.
- Emilia Snyder
Person
Julian's life isn't just a statistic. He was a precious son, a brother, a grandson, a loyal friend, and an amazing loving kid with an entire bright future ahead of him. We have to live with his loss every single day. Every birthday, every holiday, and every family milestone is a reminder that Julian should be here. Reckless driving isn't a mistake or just an accident.
- Emilia Snyder
Person
It's a choice that ends not only the victim's lives, but affects the family's lives forever. The decisions made behind the wheel have lifelong consequences for innocent families. We miss our son's vibrant personality, his sense of humor, his amazing hugs, and all things Julian every second of the day. This tragedy left us facing many layers of pain. What was especially difficult for our family is knowing that after Julian died, the driver was still legally allowed to drive for quite some time.
- Emilia Snyder
Person
We couldn't fathom how someone involved in a car crash, that took my son's life, could continue driving while the case was ongoing. I believe that when a reckless driving collision results in a fatality, there should be immediate and mandatory suspension of the driver's license. I support SB1198 because reckless driving should have meaningful consequences. Accountability sends a clear message that these reckless choices have everlasting lifelong consequences. No law can bring my child back home to me.
- Emilia Snyder
Person
He doesn't get a second chance, but stronger accountability can save others' lives. I ask you to support and please vote yes on SB 1198 in Julian's name. For Connor, Misha, Grace, Drew, Braeden, Chiada, Yui, Louis, and Braun, and many others, you have the ability to save lives taken by reckless drivers. Thank you for the opportunity to speak and your time. Emilia Snyder, Julian's mom.
- Mark Fucsovich
Person
Good evening, Chair and committee. Mark Fucsovich for Streets for All. We learned starting day one that driving is a privilege, not a right. We learned that. We've all heard that.
- Mark Fucsovich
Person
I think it's the very first words in the DMV handbook. Could be wrong about that. But it's the thing that's been repeated over and over again. And yet, what the license to kill series has shown, what families has shown is that that we have not treated that seriously, that that's not been functionally true. That our laws, our justice system, our court system has has really leaned on the opposite side.
- Mark Fucsovich
Person
And this bill begins to fix that problem. It is a multifaceted problem, but this begins to do that work. You know, I if you see me come up here, we, you know, we believe in safer street design. We believe in traffic calming. We believe in automated enforcement.
- Mark Fucsovich
Person
But we also believe that when someone's repeatedly used a vehicle with willful or wanton disregard for the safety of others, there needs to be consequences that match that level of danger. And that's the the legal bar, will for a wanton, and it is a a standard of intent that is hard to actually prove in a court of law. And yet people you can prove that people are putting that are doing that and getting multiple citations for it and still allowed to drive in California.
- Mark Fucsovich
Person
And so it's not a minor mistake. It is the disregard for safety of people and property. And when that behavior is repeated, it's not abstract. It's born in people's lives. It's born by pedestrians, born by people biking. It's born by abuelos and tethas. It's born by workers in the street and in entire communities.
- Mark Fucsovich
Person
This bill is important because it focuses on the driver who've crossed that line, and it creates stronger consequences for repeat wreck reckless driving, authorizing as longer impoundments when a vehicle is used in reckless driving. Yeah. And so this bill is not the whole answer. We still need safer roads, slower streets, better infrastructure, all of that good stuff that you hear me coming up here to testify on all the time. But a license is a privilege to operate a powerful machine in a public space.
- Mark Fucsovich
Person
When someone repeatedly endangers that public space with that privilege, temporary removal from the road is a reasonable and necessary safety measure. For those reasons, I urge your aye vote. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving on to members of the public who would like to add their support to this bill, name, affiliation, and position.
- Christian Nunez
Person
Christian Antonio Nunez on behalf of Streets are for Everyone. Co sponsors, strongly support.
- Francine Mata
Person
Francine Mata, Sacramento Lowrider Commission, California Lowrider Alliance. I, too, lost a nephew due to reckless driving. All in favor.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving on to opposition. I don't believe we have any registered opposition, to testify, but noting if any member of the public would like to stand, or come to the mic in opposition, now would be an appropriate time to do so. Name, affiliation, and position. Seeing none, moving to committee, vice Chair Davies.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Thank you, madam Chair. I wanna say thank you to the Senator for bringing this forward. And miss Schneider, thank you for the courage that's I can tell you have been going on six years now. And in the very beginning, it was hard to make these drivers accountable. And I'm so happy to see the legislation and proud of the members of finally realizing that we can't allow ten, eleven DUIs and have somebody out there.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
And that there has to be accountability and hopefully strong enough accountability that those think twice. So, I thank you so much, Senator. Thank you for your courage. I keep you in your your prayers. And, I'd be honored to be a co author. Thank you. And I move the bill.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
I think we've had a motion we have. We do. But we can have multiple motions. That's okay. Seeing no other members wishing to speak, Thank you to the author.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
You know, we have this whole slew of package of bills recognizing that we got called out. Right? We got called out by CalMatters in their license to kill investigator series and said that the legislature wasn't doing enough, and it laid it out very clearly where are where the gaps were. Made it undeniable. And and we're here today and families like yours, and and we had one testifier early, have come and pleaded for years for us to do something as my vice Chair said.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And it was laid out so clearly that data supported that we had to do something. I appreciate you taking the committee amends and providing that that violation had to have occurred within that ten year period, recognizing that people's lives do change. And sometimes if it's beyond that, it could be truly inadvertent with some types of offenses.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
This is similar as I was noting before today, like, how we kinda went really far with the three strikes and then we had to kinda pull that back a little bit. So we wanna be mindful of that.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
But to some of the testimony, driving is a privilege, not a right. Simple as that. Period. Stop. We have a motion made by Rogers and seconded by Sharp-Collins. I'll give you an opportunity to close.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
Thank you. Yes. I appreciate the amendment. I definitely as I'm inching closer to 40, don't wanna be judged for what I did at 18 years old. I have grown and learned.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
But these are serious actions. And I think, you know, like my my witnesses have mentioned, one is already too much too much. And even with this, we're giving even a little bit of leeway with three ability to claim that you did not know the vehicle belonged to you. 31 other states already require you proof to show that you did not know the vehicle was being utilized for this for for this kind of behavior.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
And in the package, this is the only bill that is addressing reckless driving even though it's a big percentage of the fatalities we're seeing in California.
- Caroline Menjivar
Legislator
I appreciate the support. I welcome the coauthor, madam vice Chair, and I respectfully ask for an aye vote.
- Committee Secretary
SB 1198. Due process amended to the Appropriations Committee.[Roll call]
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
We'll hold that roll open for members to add on. Alrighty. We have an author present. Moving on to item number seven, no, 17.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Yes. 17 SB 1392. Got one so far. Alright. You may begin. Oh, is that okay? Alright.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chair and members. I appreciate the opportunity to present SB 1392, Leno's Law, which we think is a common sense update to California's existing smog exemption statute. And this is a bill that I joined authored with Senator Grove. You may remember there was a predecessor bill last year. I I wanna start off by thanking the Chair and committee staff for working on this.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Again, I wasn't the author last year. I was a co author, but I was quite aware and participated in in some of the kinda heavy lifting and work that was done by this committee and the guidance of the Chair, which is, again, much appreciated. With the chair's support, I wanna continue discussing the committee's proposed amendment on page four of the analysis of the bill as it moves forward to appropriations. We understand what the committee is calling out.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
We think appropriations is probably the best place to deal with that because of of, perhaps, beneficial cost implications in terms of of the movement of the bill.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Last year, this committee heard SB 712, which I was referring to a moment ago. That was a broader bill. It was a broader group of vehicles in a little bit of a different set of smog requirements. SB 1392 is narrower. The bill updates the existing smog exemption by extending it from 1975 to 1980, five years, and by creating a limited exemption for eligible collector motor vehicles from model years '81 through '86, a second five years.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
So there's a five year tranche and then sort of a waterfall one year at a time of another five years not exceeding ten years. That's what's covered in the bill. To qualify, these collector vehicles must be used primarily for display, preservation, educational, or similar purposes, and must either be driven less than a thousand miles or less per year, or be covered by collector's car insurance. So they're very much validated as collector cars. The collector car definition is is in the bill.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
You could see it in the analysis as well, I believe, but you could point to it in the bill. It it is where, in that section 259 of the code, you can see what a collector car is defined to be. So these are not daily drivers. These are not, you know, vehicles that, you know, people are putting a 100,000 miles a year on or anything like that. They're very much described as what we used to call show car vehicles.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Air quality advocates are concerned about the environmental impact of the bill. Based on the Bureau of Automotive Repair annual reports from 2024 and 2025, less than 1% of California's registered vehicles fall within the model year range covered by this bill, so the overall model year range. Only a fraction of those vehicles would qualify as a collector car, under SB 1392.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Between the 1,000 mile cap, the requirement that cars be used primarily for charities, parades, and shows, you know, consistent with, section two fifty nine, SB 1392 will address a small population of usually meticulously maintained vehicles. I'd like to introduce our witnesses, Francine Mata with the Sacramento Lowrider's Card, and to my immediate left, Victor Munoz of SEMA.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
At the appropriate time, I respectfully ask for your aye vote. Thank you.
- Victor Muñoz
Person
Alright. Good evening, Chair Wilson and members. Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. My name is Victor Munoz with the Specialty Equipment Market Association, also known as SEMA. We are proud co sponsors of SB 1392, also known as Leno's Law.
- Victor Muñoz
Person
Thank you to the author, Senator Cortesi and Grove, for their hard work on this bill and 712 before it. SEMA represents 1,500 automotive aftermarket companies here in California. Our members employ fifth a 150,000 Californians fueling the $40 billion aftermarket economy here. The this bill is not about daily drivers. The as the Senator mentioned, the definition of collector vehicles requires them to be used primarily for shows, parades, charitable functions, and historical exhibitions.
- Victor Muñoz
Person
And as you will hear hear soon, they're an integral part of community building and community events as well. SEMA is proud to help keep vehicles legal and emissions compliant. We do a lot of work with our SEMA garage and Diamond Bar here in California, working directly with CARB and EPA to test and certify aftermarket parts. So admission is is first and foremost in what we do.
- Victor Muñoz
Person
SB 712 by Senator Grove last year passed as committee 14 and to 0 last year, And now SB 1392, which is a bit more narrower, helps preserve California's automotive heritage for the next generation of classic car enthusiasts.
- Victor Muñoz
Person
I respectfully urge your support of SB 1392, and I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you.
- Francine Mata
Person
Good evening. My name is Francine Mata, President and Cofounder of the Sacramento Lowrider Commission. Also President and Cofounder of the California Lowrider Alliance, which has 35 cities in it. I probably support SB 1392 because lowriders and classic cars are more than vehicles. For me, there are on wheels and we each one tells a story.
- Francine Mata
Person
I own two personally cars that I love, and it's a form of mental health for me that, you know, I get my time away. It tells our story of our California history, culture, and the generations who built it. Every classic make and model has a story to tell. Our car culture is about family, unity, tradition. It brings together people of every age, culture, and socioeconomic background through a shared passion and respect for automotive history.
- Francine Mata
Person
We've broken barriers by bringing low rider culture and and classic cars to major events like the California Love Exhibit, which we had 200,000 visitors at the California State Fair last year. This past weekend, we partnered with the X Games, never happened, groundbreaking, and we're going to Japan, which is amazing. These events strengthen communities, create partnerships, they support small businesses, artists, and vendors, and contribute to California's economy. SB 1392 helps preserve this important legacy for future generations.
- Francine Mata
Person
So on behalf of the Sacramento Lowrider Commission, the California Lowrider Alliance, and the families we represent statewide, I respectfully ask for your yes vote.
- Francine Mata
Person
Thank you. And I'm also available if you need any questions answered.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving to members of the public who would like to add on and register their support for this bill. Name, affiliation, and position.
- Clifton Wilson
Person
Clifton Wilson on behalf of San Joaquin County Supervisor Robert Rickman in support. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. Moving on now to opposition. You do have opposition witnesses. You may come forward. Thank you.
- Brendan Twohig
Person
Madam Chair and members, Brandon Twohig on behalf of the California Air Pollution Control Officers Association. That's the air pollution control officers from all 35 local air districts respectfully opposed to the bill. Local air districts don't administer the smog check program, but we're supporters because it's an equitable way of achieving emissions reductions essential to meeting federal clean air standards, health health based standards, which is much more difficult now with the federal rollbacks.
- Brendan Twohig
Person
And while we appreciate California's rich automotive heritage, unfortunately, this bill will substantially increase air pollution and harm public health. First, the bill changes the definition of Collector Motor vehicles to remove the requirement that owners actually be collectors.
- Brendan Twohig
Person
On top of that, whether a car is a collector is largely self defined. The bill allows exemptions from the program if an owner obtains collector car insurance and then says to themselves, the vehicle will be used primarily in shows, parades, charitable functions, and historical exhibitions. So with the words primarily and primary and little accountability associated with collector car insurance, it's basically ten years of old cars that could use this as a loophole.
- Brendan Twohig
Person
Hagerty, a major insurer of collector vehicles, says that around 43 million cars in The United States would fit their definition of a collector vehicle. So Hagerty also has a relatively high mileage limit of 7,500 miles a year.
- Brendan Twohig
Person
California Air Resources Board data shows a nineteen eighty two passenger car that passes Smog passes Smog would emit approximately a 123 times the NOx emissions of a twenty twenty five car. If the nineteen eighty two car is driven just 7,500 miles a year, which is the Hagerty limit allowed under this bill, at a 123 times the NOx emissions, It's equivalent of a twenty twenty five car being driven 922,500 miles a year.
- Brendan Twohig
Person
And so just to just to give you an idea too is that while they're only about eighty two hundred nineteen eighty two cars, if they were all on the road in one day and and they may not of course, but just to get
- Brendan Twohig
Person
Yeah. For sure. That that would be the equivalent of over one million twenty twenty five cars. So, we're concerned about tampering and the relaxation of these requirements, and thank you for your indulgence, Madam Chair and members.
- Bill Magavern
Person
Good evening. Bill Magavern with the Coalition for Clean Air in opposition. California still, unfortunately, has by far the worst air pollution in the country. We are way in violation of federal and state health based standards for both smog or ozone and soot or fine particulate matter. Transportation is the largest source by far of that air pollution.
- Bill Magavern
Person
And so smog check is a key program for trying to reduce those pollutants. And, unfortunately, it is the oldest cars that are almost always the most polluting. They did not have the benefit when initially sold of having the kind of emission controls that we have now, and those those controls tend to degrade over time.
- Bill Magavern
Person
So according to CARB data, if you exempt a vehicle in the seventy six to eighty five time period, you'll have emissions of of NOx, oxides of nitrogen, equivalent to adding 30 model year 2020 vehicles. So that's why we're concerned about the the lack of controls and enforcement in this definition of classic car.
- Bill Magavern
Person
It's not that we have any problem with classic cars. It's just that it could open a loophole to allow a lot more pollution into our air that we cannot afford, for health reasons. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving on to members of the public who would like to note their opposition. Name, affiliation, and position.
- Rebecca Marcus
Person
Good evening, Chair and members. Rebecca Marcus in opposition on behalf of the following organizations. The Union of Concerned Scientists, the Natural Resources Defense Council, California Environmental Voters, Families Advocating for Chemical and Toxic Safety, Sierra Club California, the Environmental Protection Information Center, the Regional Asthma Management and Prevention Center, and the San Francisco Bay Physicians for Social Responsibility. Thank you.
- Benjamin Liu
Person
Benjamin Liu, American Lung Association, respectful opposition. Thank you.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Thank you. Moving to members of the committee. Seeing none, we have a motion by let me find where it is. There we go. Sorry.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Wrong page. Davies and Sharp-Collins. So I wanna thank the author, for bringing this forward, this bipartisan measure. As it's noted, it was heard and passed out of this committee, last time, in a bipartisan factor. One thing that was noted, from the proponents of the bill is that California has a vibrant automobile culture.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And one thing that was noted from those in opposition to the bill, it's also home to some of the worst air quality in this country. And so this bill creates a narrow exemption to provide relief from the states required a smog check program to owners of specified collector vehicles.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
And I appreciate the author's work to find a balance between supporting car enthusiasts while maintaining the safeguards in place to protect the public from air pollution, which is why I strongly encourage the mends to be taken in appropriations because it does limit the miles driven as was on display through the opponent's testimony. And so I will, be supporting your bill today. You do enjoy a motion in a second, so I'll give you an opportunity to close.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Alright. Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, this is, as you said, just now in in your remarks, and as I think I said earlier and the witnesses in support said, this is a very narrowly tailored bill. We support the small compliance program. We support the overall program that the Bureau of Automotive Repairs requires on on cars in general.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
1975, for someone like me, doesn't seem that long ago. It doesn't. But in 1975, 1975 was fifty one years ago. 1980, the year that we're trying to take this up to was forty six years ago. If in 1975, that's the last year of exemption currently, we all subtracted forty six years, What we would be told, perhaps, is that we should continue to hold cars that were made in 1929 to the emission standards of 1929.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
It actually makes no sense to hold this 1976 vehicles to the emission standards of 1976. You can go through vehicle sale after vehicle sale after vehicle sale of vehicles that have been modified, and they're getting two times the fuel efficiency now because they were allowed to put in a motor that's based on 2026 technology. They're usually fuel injected. They don't have carburetors anymore.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
It's actually beneficial to have that modified car on the road, but you'd never be able to get a small compliance certificate on that car.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
Why? Because the modification wouldn't be allowed. So this this is, I think, an an appropriate appropriate adjustment or correction, five years. And then this is waterfall, if you will, of one year after. Each of those five years, only up to ten years, we stop.
- Dave Cortese
Legislator
And when we get to that point, it'll be even more years ago. So I just respectfully ask for your aye vote, and and thank you again for all of your support.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Alright. That, bill will hold the, we'll hold the role open for members to be able to add on. Before we move on, I would instead of taking a recess, given the fact that members would kill me if I delayed. I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to item number 12 so we can have a conversation, and that is SB 1156 Caballero to be presented by Assembly Member Ahrens. And I'm gonna pass the gavel to, did she leave? Oh, there she goes.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Sorry. Your green was matching the chair. To Vice Chair Davies. Thanks.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Thank you. I expect that with all of my bills I'm presenting now on. Thank you.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Thank you, Madam Chair and members. Thank you for allowing me to present SB 1156 on behalf of Senator Caballero. This bill uses education and a proven strategy to prevent the dangers and consequences of drunk driving. For over fifty years, California has struggled to reduce impaired driving. We have increased penalties, funded responsible serving, and required post conviction tools like ignition interlock devices.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Yet the data points to a steady and scary trend. UC Berkeley's transportation injure in injury mapping system shows that DUI related deaths remain consistent at an average of twenty five percent of all traffic fatalities every year since 2010. The reason is clear. Our current tools work to penalize after a crash or an arrest. SB 1156 changes that.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Upon appropriation, the bill can use a DMV mailing insert that state law already requires and will inform every driver of the dangers, the consequences, and the newest DUI laws. It extends the same information to digital systems for a digital model of documents drivers rely on, like driver's licenses and vehicle registrations. We know education can reduce harm in public safety setting.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
Friday night live and every fifteen minutes for teens, the alcoholic beverage control department's training on the dangers of overseeing overserving and the national highway traffic safety administrators click it or ticket campaign all point to the same result. Education measurably reduces harmful outcomes.
- Patrick Ahrens
Legislator
November would require every driver each year keeps the remainder constant and current. With me today to testify in support of this approach is Christian Nunez with Streets Are For Everyone.
- Christian Nunez
Person
Brevity is appreciated. Chair Wilson, members of the committee, thank you, and good evening. My name is Christian Nunez. I'm here on behalf of Streets Are For Everyone. We're a nonprofit organization based in Southern California working on road safety issues across the state.
- Christian Nunez
Person
We are also sponsors of the bill. I'd like to start with the number, which is 1,355. That's the number of people dead from DUI in 2023 according to the California Office of Traffic Safety. University of California at Berkeley, in partnership with CHP, reports traffic violence statistics, and they report that one DUI death happens for every one point eight non DUI death over a twenty nine year period. Over the last three decades, California has tried to prevent DUI through educational campaigns.
- Christian Nunez
Person
And I for one can attest to my own contributions to this fight. In high school, I worked with the CHP to help produce in every fifteen minutes PSA for my school to protect my peers from drunk driving. However, it's obvious that message hasn't been loud enough for the rest of California. DUI messaging has become laxed over the years and the thousands of deaths each report is, evidence of that.
- Christian Nunez
Person
SB 1156 will address decreased awareness for DUI to drivers through an expanded educational campaign arriving in the mail alongside registration renewals.
- Christian Nunez
Person
But let's not concern ourselves with numbers alone because at least one person in this room has lost or know someone who has lost a loved one to alcohol impaired driving. I can guarantee it. A smaller reminder it may seem, DUI awareness saves lives, birthdays, graduations, reunions, and memories that are all at stake when drivers drive drunk. On behalf of so many whose lives are impacted by DUI, we respectfully ask for your aye vote for SB 1156.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Thank you. We have our me too's in support of this bill. Alright. I don't believe we have any opposition witnesses. Do we have any opposition me too's?
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Alright. Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the committee. Any questions? Alright. If you'd like to go ahead.
- Committee Secretary
Thank you. SB 1156. The motion is do pass to the Appropriations Committee.
- Laurie Davies
Legislator
Okay. Why don't we go ahead and start from the top if you haven't had an opportunity to vote?
- Committee Secretary
File item 11, SB 1087, Harabedian. SB 1087. Harabedian. Not voting.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Understood. Alright. Item number 24, SCR 129 will not be heard today. I believe we have gone through and dispensed with all the bills. I don't know if there was a call out for each one.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Do we need to call them out? Okay. We'll do the call out for each bill. I believe we've captured all the authors that have determined to be present. Starting with, consent calendar, there were 13 bills on consent.
- Lori Wilson
Legislator
Wonderful. There being no further business of this committee, the meeting is now adjourned.