Hearings

Senate Standing Committee on Education

September 10, 2025
  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The Senate Education Committee will come to order in 30 seconds. Good evening. There is one bill on today's agenda, AB 715, authored by Assembly Members Zbur and Addis. This bill was recently amended quite significantly. This is the first time the contents of this bill will be heard.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I would like to apologize to the public for the last-minute nature of this hearing. This is not typically how we operate, but there was significant amendments and work that was being done on this bill. We have been working nonstop since early July to carefully work on the negotiations around the new contents of this bill and have reached out to many, many, many stakeholders across the education space as well as different diversity groups as well.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    While I'm pleased we have reached a compromise on the language in the bill, I am very disappointed that we are up against the deadline to end this year's legislative session. It troubles me that the public was given very little notice about the new language in this bill and that this hearing would take place today.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The topics addressed in AB 715 are incredibly important and timely. Despite the last-minute nature of this hearing, it is critical we proceed this year to ensure protections for Jewish students are in place as soon as possible. This bill also starts to build out the Office of Civil Rights, which is also important.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    All students deserve to be in a safe and respectful school environment at a minimum. I fully recognize the seriousness and emotional undercurrent of the discussion we are about to have. I will maintain decorum during the hearing as is customary, and any individuals who are disruptive may be removed from the hearing. This is our typical practice.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Witnesses are asked to limit their testimony to typically two minutes, but today I'm going to provide three because I recognize this is the first time we'll be having a hearing on this and there's certainly a lot to discuss, to ensure the committee is able to complete today's agenda in a timely fashion and return to the Senate Floor session. Seeing that we actually do have a quorum, I'll go ahead and have our secretary call the roll.

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll call].

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    A quorum has been established, so we will now begin our bill presentation. I believe we are going to have Mr. Assembly Member Zbur present his bill. Assembly Member Zbur, you may begin when you are ready, as well as Assembly Member Addis.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Chair and members. Thank you so much for being here tonight. I want to start out by thanking the chair and the Education Committee staff, the pro tem and his staff for the extensive engagement on this bill over the course of the last couple months.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I am proud today to present AB 715, together with my joint author, Assembly Member Dawn Addis, who's with us this morning. This bill is sponsored by the Jewish Public Affairs Committee of California and is the only priority bill of the Jewish Caucus this year. Jewish students in California are facing hate at crisis proportions.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Jewish students across our state are being harassed, bullied, and intimidated simply because of who they are. Just as examples, in Manhattan Beach, a swastika and anti-semitic slurs were spray-painted on an elementary school playground. In San Francisco Unified School District, teachers were provided materials that justified Hamas's October 7th attack.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    In Tarzana, swastikas were repeatedly painted on a banner outside of an elementary school, and when the parents of those kids actually covered up the swastikas, they were painted even larger and across the entire banner and they were left there until the public complained and local elected officials actually had to cajole the school district into removing the banner.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    In Santa Ana Unified, a curriculum committee debated the so-called 'Jewish Question.' Committee members refused to acknowledge Hamas as a terrorist organization and the administration scheduled public meetings on Jewish holidays to discuss curriculum because they knew that they would be objectionable to the Jewish community. These are not isolated incidents.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    They're becoming more frequent and widespread, and not a week goes by now where I don't hear about more incidents from my constituents. There has been a massive 893% increase in anti-semitic hate crimes in the United States over the past ten years, and California schools are not immune to this.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    When vulnerable communities are facing discrimination and hate that requires targeted and specific solutions, our legislature has always acted quickly and decisively to protect these communities.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    When I served as executive director of Equality California, we worked alongside educators, parents, my colleagues here today, to pass laws that protect LGBTQ plus students from bullying, harassment, discrimination, and to ensure that every child could learn in a safe and supportive environment.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    During my first year in the legislature, I authored AB 5, which gave educators the tools they needed to help foster inclusive classroom environments and appropriately address the unique, the unique challenges that the LGBTQ plus community and all students face.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    AB 715 builds on that kind of work by acknowledging that Jewish students are facing an acute problem while also fighting discrimination for all communities. It indicates that the Jewish community students require and deserve the specific responses that will address the hate that they're experiencing.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I'm proud to say that this landmark bill--very proud to say that this landmark bill does something that is really important for all communities. It creates an Office of Civil Rights, which will include multiple coordinators who will serve and benefit not only the Jewish community, but all communities that we must protect under our anti-discrimination laws.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    These coordinators--one will be in--the anti-semitism coordinator will be created in this bill and the others will be created in another bill--these coordinators will focus on assessing discrimination that is occurring in our schools, providing recommendations to the legislature, the governor, and school districts on how to combat anti-semitism, and they provide our educators and administrators with the tools that they need to uplift all students.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    This bill should not be controversial. This bill is about values that we all share: safety, dignity, and equality, and protecting all of our students. We have a responsibility to make sure that every child in California can attend a school that is safe, respectful, and affirming.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I'd like to thank the Legislative AAPI Caucus, Black Caucus, Latino Caucus, Native American, and LGBTQ Caucuses for their partnership in this effort, the teachers and education experts and education leaders for continuing to hear us and work with us, the Jewish community for their patience and steadfast support, and the Senate Pro Tem and Assembly Speaker for helping us finally address this issue after years of trying, and to the chair and the staff of this committee.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    While this bill will not fix everything overnight or undo the harm that has already been done, it is the first step towards a better prevention and protection for the Jewish community and Jewish kids and other vulnerable communities as well. Now I'll turn over the mic to my joint author, Assembly Member Addis, to provide additional information on what this bill will do.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Chair and members, and I want to say a deep and heartfelt thank you to the staff who worked tirelessly on helping get us in front of your committee, as well as the advocates in the Jewish community and across the State of California who have deep interest in this bill and our witnesses that have traveled from pretty far away.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Each of them have driven at least three hours to get here this evening, and so you're going to hear their testimony, and as you do, I hope you'll be thinking of what it would be like if you were one of them or one of the people that they're talking to you about, but I come to this work as a former teacher.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    I spent the first 21 years of my career in public education as both a teacher and a teacher leader, a CTA member, as well as a site and local executive board member for CTA, and during that time, I fought for teachers and we made huge, huge gains in working conditions as well as wages, but I also taught hundreds and hundreds of students. I taught students with special needs and neurotypical students. I taught students who were English, primary English speakers as well as students who are learning English as an additional language.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    I taught students who came from poverty and very distressed backgrounds, but I also taught students from wealthy and just sort of typical economic backgrounds, and I taught students who were housed, I taught students who weren't housed, and I taught every single grade level from first through fifth when I worked with students with special needs across many subject areas, including math, English, history, social science, and science.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And when I was a special education teacher, I accompanied students when they went into the general education setting for the first time and learned to spread their wings and grow their skills academic, socially, and emotionally, and I tell you all of that because what I know to be true over the 21 years that I spent with children, K12, is that when I walked into a school campus or a school classroom, I was there for one thing and one thing only.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And that one thing was to ensure that students left their time with me having learned, and what we know that the data says about learning is that it only happens and it happens best when students have two things: they have a trusted adult in the classroom and they have a school environment that is safe, supportive, welcoming, and affirming, and that's what happens to make learning become unleashed.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    That is what is needed for children to be allowed to become the best of who they are and to learn the vital knowledge, skills, and empathy for both the workforce and to participate in meaningful ways in our multicultural democracy.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Unfortunately, though, the picture that I have tried to paint for you and the experience in my background around what works has just not been the reality for Jewish students in the past few years. I would say Jewish students have always faced anti-semitism across the course of my career.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    We've always found swastikas on desks or things in hallways. We've always had that happen, and many times when those things happened, we would be told, 'well, you know, students are just joking. It's not that big of a deal,' but these incidents have increased, particularly since October 7th, and students are now facing very dangerous anti-semitic rhetoric, tropes, discrimination, and even physical attacks in our very own California K12 schools.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    So I want to make clear that the incidents you just heard from Assembly Member Zbur--he said it, but I will repeat it--they're not one-off incidents; they're really the reality of what Jewish students across California are facing, and you're going to hear from two witnesses who I'll introduce in just a moment.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And as I said at the top, when you hear firsthand what they have to say, I hope that each of us in this room, myself, all of you, those in the audience, will make a commitment to ourselves that together we will wipe out the hateful anti-semitic behavior that has risen in the places that we inhabit, and most importantly this evening, that has risen in our schools. And so, you know, how are we going to do that? How are we going to approach it?

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    It's with a common sense bill called AB 715, and I'm very honored to joint author this bill with my colleague, Assembly Member Zbur, because all of you know of his heart and his passion for equity and justice for California students. It just emanates so clearly, and it's what has made our partnership in fighting this fight work so well up to this point.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    So AB 715 does a handful of things. Most importantly, it recognizes our need to address anti-semitism in schools, it also provides prevention via an anti-semitism coordinator under the Office of Civil Rights that this bill will create, and it offers pathways to respond when anti-semitism occurs.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    It will also help everyone in the school community access resources about anti-semitism that will be posted on a website and has a handful of other pieces to ensure that classrooms are not subjecting students to unlawful discrimination, and it clarifies and talks about what corrective action might look like.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    So AB 715 is about truly ensuring that every student, Jewish students and others, have the best learning environment that the Golden State has to offer. There is one clarification that I'd like to say about language in the bill.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    It's a technical cleanup that wasn't able to happen before this hearing but that the California Department of Education has added language to allow CDE to notify an LEA in writing of the investigation report within 20 days. I think there was a typo, and so they've asked me to clarify that during my testimony today.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    So in closing, before I turn it over to our witnesses, I just want to say I'm deeply grateful for the collaboration of this committee, for colleagues across the legislature who have spent the better part of two legislative years and umpteen hours to try to get a bill in front of this committee.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    It's an important bill for not just the Jewish community but for every community across the state who has asked us to please create an Office of Civil Rights in California and to please place these coordinators that will be created with this bill and with a sister bill in that office, and so now I'd like to turn this over to our witnesses: Lev Miller Ruderman, a sophomore at San Lorenzo Valley High School in Santa Cruz, and then Rabbi Jacqueline Mates-Muchin, Senior Rabbi at Temple Isaiah in Oakland.

  • Lev Ruderman

    Person

    My name is Lev Miller Ruderman. Last school year, I was a freshman at San Lorenzo Valley High School. My three older siblings also endured anti-semitic incidents in my same school, but nothing prepared me for the horrible experience. Peers who I considered my friends betrayed my trust and sense of safety.

  • Lev Ruderman

    Person

    This was not a spur of the moment incident. A fellow freshman pinned his assault in advance. He used class time and school materials to cut, glue, and color a Nazi flag and a puppet of Adolf Hitler, complete with a glued-on mustache. Not a single student nor the teacher asked why he was crafting these offensive items, nor did anyone tell him it was inappropriate to make such hateful and violent symbols.

  • Lev Ruderman

    Person

    During the break, this student pretended to be friendly by patting me on my shoulder. Little did I know that he used that pat to tape the Nazi flag on my back without my knowing. At least one or more students were taking photos from behind. Others saw it and said nothing. I walked around the school and noticed people snickering, smiling, and laughing, but I didn't know why. No one told me what was taped to my back. By being bystanders, they were complicit in targeting me for being a Jew.

  • Lev Ruderman

    Person

    At last, a teacher asked me about the Nazi flag on my back. I felt sad, confused, and overwhelmed. I stayed home for the rest of my freshman year and took my final exams during summer break after school ended. The school did not seem to take what happened to me seriously.

  • Lev Ruderman

    Person

    There's no outreach to the community, school assembly, or even in-class conversation to call against hate, harassment, and targeting. The school had not even notified the superintendent or the school board. Not even one staff member or peer seemed to care. I wonder if they would have been different if I were from another ethnic or racial minority.

  • Lev Ruderman

    Person

    Knowing that someone purposely wanted to hurt me and invoke the Nazi plan of the Final Solution to annihilate the Jewish people scared me the most. Back at school, I keep looking behind my back and to the side. I worry for my safety and protecting my younger sister. The complicit nature of hate against Jews in our schools needs to change.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    I'm Rabbi Jacqueline Mates-Muchin, Senior Rabbi of Temple Sinai in Oakland, a congregation of 850 households, translating to nearly 3,000 individuals. I'm a native of California and the parent of four children who are either graduates of or current students in the Oakland public school system.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    Anti-semitism in Oakland schools is not new, but it has been emboldened in the last two years. Jewish students are experiencing intimidation and isolation, overt use of classic anti-semitic tropes, and gaslighting, sometimes from teachers and administrators themselves.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    A high school student in my congregation was pulled aside by her teacher during class and asked what she thought of the war in Gaza. She was then told that Israel is committing genocide and that she had a responsibility to know what is happening. She was the only recognizably Jewish student in the class because she wears a Jewish Star and she was the only child to be pulled aside.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    Another congregant, a teacher in the district, was told to use the back door to her office if she wanted to avoid engaging with a colleague under investigation for anti-semitic speech and was told that Jews just have to learn to sit in their discomfort. She has since resigned from the district.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    I was told by a former school board member, one who pushed an early version of the ethnic studies curriculum, that they warned her that the Jews would be coming for her job, and recently, when describing what our students are facing, my concerns were dismissed by Oakland City leadership, being told that there are lots of groups that have trauma.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    Yes, that is true, and hate against each of us manifests itself differently, so we need education and training to understand those differences in order to combat them effectively. Anti-semitism paints Jews as the villains of society. It claims we have evil and selfish intentions, that we control wealth and politics and media, and are thus ultimately responsible for all of the problems in the world, including the oppression of other minorities.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    When this hateful ideology is internalized, consciously or not, children who are targeted, bullied, and intimidated are dismissed as whiny complainers if not blamed for their own victimization, leaving them unprotected by those entrusted to educate them and to keep them safe. My congregation is 150 years old.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    The cornerstone of our sanctuary was laid the same year that the cornerstone was laid for Oakland City Hall. Jews have been and are an integral part of our cities and our state, yet the surge of anti-semitism in our public schools is making Jewish families flee our school districts.

  • Jacqueline Mates-Muchin

    Person

    How can Jews be a part of a system that neither protects us nor values our contributions? If we hope to maintain the diversity and strength that built and sustains California, we must do more to fight anti-semitism. Thank you.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you for your presentation. We will now turn it over to hear from those that are in opposition. If two speakers would like to come forward and we will also give you each three minutes each.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    And through the chair, I hear that the ACLU representative is also outside.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    There--we only have two, we only have two speakers, so if--is it--if they want to respond to technical questions that come up, but--

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    My understanding is that was what they were providing--

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    Do you know, do you have language for that technical question for ACLU?

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    I think they're in the #MeToo line, and as technical questions come up, I'll...yeah.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay, great. Either of you can begin when you're ready.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Excuse me. Good evening, Madam Chair. Seth Bramble, here for the California Teachers Association, respectfully in opposition of Assembly Bill 715. We certainly recognize the hard work that you and that your team put in trying to fix a bill that, while well-intentioned, falls short of addressing its stated intent.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    CTA is deeply committed to schools free from racism, sexism, anti-semitism, and all forms of discrimination, and our track record is unmatched in fighting for equal access to education and defending the religious and gender rights of all students. Every day, hundreds of thousands of educators step into California classrooms with the purpose of fostering safe, inclusive, learning environments.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    In the past several years, a profession that historically has been respected is too often vilified. Educators who buy school supplies and food for students who can't afford them serve as teachers, as counselors, as mandated reporters for students in crisis, are being accused of not supporting students. For an educator, there is no worse charge.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Why would we, why would CTA take the reputational risk of opposing Assembly Bill 715? Because this bill has unintended consequences. First off, the bill codifies into law subjective standards for instruction under the term 'factually accurate' that reinforce a vision of education which emphasizes rote learning of facts over critical thinking and creativity.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    In many subjects, there is no agreed upon set of facts with which to align instruction. This factually accurate requirement would give advocates on multiple sides of controversial issues a new legal tool to disrupt instruction and to threaten educators.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Second, the bill creates an anti-semitism prevention coordinator under the Office of Civil Rights while contemplating an anti-religious hate coordinator to encompass all other religions. Persecution and demonization of any religion is wrong and deserves equal standing.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Singling out certain forms of discrimination while ignoring others like the students with special needs that Assembly Member Addis just referred to that she taught, is unfair and perpetuates inequality. This approach sends a message that some injustices matter more than others, which is unacceptable.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    All of these coordinator positions are proposed to be appointed by the governor and require Senate confirmation, making them inherently political in nature. In policymaking, we often hear: 'don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.' In this instance, when fair and equal treatment of California students and teachers are at stake, that's an insufficient standard.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    So I bring opposition today from the entire school community, from the teachers, from the California Federation of Teachers, from the California Teachers Association, from the administrators, ACSA, from the School Boards Association, CSBA, and from the county superintendents in the state. We're all asking for your no vote, and I thank you for your time.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    Pardon me. I'm not used to jackets. I'm uncomfortable. Didn't want to interrupt your speech. Check. Good afternoon, chairs and members. My name is Gabriel Kahn. I'm a proud Jewish educator, CTA member in Oakland, California. Since I was eight years old, my parents have been residents and synagogue members in Senator Pérez's district until their home and temple burned down in Altadena earlier this year.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    That's all to say I'm a proud product of California public schools and of the districts represented on education committees in both the Senate and the Assembly. First and foremost, I'm here because my Oakland students deserve a critical education that helps them contextualize their experience and examine the underlying forms of power that shape their world, and if I do my job right today by both my students and my Jewish community, you will see how this bill, as it is written, currently jeopardizes not only the study of Palestinian history and ethnic studies, but actually makes Jewish people in California less safe.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    I'll keep my opening remarks to three points: number one, the procedural problems of AB 715, the dangers of how it defines anti-semitism, and finally, how an allegation of inappropriate conduct levied against me might get much scarier under this bill. Democratic participation, procedural problems--let's talk about that for a minute.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    Assembly Bill 715 was not heard in time for normal Assembly Education Committee hearing, so they waived that deadline, held a special committee meeting in May, which I testified at, and at the time, the intent bill said little to nothing, but what it did say was very worrisome, and in response to those concerns, the authors promised a transparent dialogue about the language of the bill moving forward.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    We reached out and they never responded. Here in the Senate, the bill continues to see last-minute rule waivers and gut and amends, not addressing any concerns that the opposition had had and that we had highlighted since the beginning of this process when it was introduced, but rather, find new ways to rewrite the same deeply concerning policies, which I'll get to in a moment.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    Our classrooms and our students deserve more attentive and careful oversight, not last-minute rule waivers and loopholes that fundamentally change our Ed Code. So in process alone, every responsible member of the committee should reject or at least abstain on this 11th hour attempt to change our state's Education Code around discrimination.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    During a very divisive Assembly committee meeting in May, my colleagues and I directly warned educators that our only logical reason, the only logical reason to pull Judaism out from within the class of religions protected against discrimination is to define anti-semitism as something different than religious or ethnic-based discrimination.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    It's the first step in a familiar three-step process. Step one: name anti-semitism separate from religious discrimination, step two: define critiques of the State of Israel as anti-semitic, and step three: prosecute all critiques of the State of Israel. So to the fundamental question: what is this new statute defining as anti-semitism that's not already covered in existing law?

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    The most recent version of the bill subtly refers--defers this question of the definition of anti-semitism to a Biden Administration memo which prioritizes the IHRA, the IHRA definition of anti-semitism that has been repeatedly used to label critiques of Israel as anti-semitic in order to censor them.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    The IHRA, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of anti-semitism has no place in our schools and has been widely condemned as unconstitutional for stifling speech. Even Kenneth Stern, the person who wrote the definition, has said that it has been used as an attack on academic freedom and free speech and will not only harm pro-Palestinian advocates, but also Jewish students and faculty.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    And it begs the question, if the initial author of this definition is warning us against its misuse in school settings, how can we, in good conscience as Californians, pass legislation which uplifts this definition in our schools? Under that definition--

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    You're both 20 seconds overtime, so if you could just wrap up in a little bit?

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    Thank you. I can get to my own personal experience with this bill during question and answers, but I will defer to my concluding statement. Thank you. California students deserve schools that are safe to learn, and that means we cannot censure or exclude Palestinian, Arab, and Muslim students, which this bill has done, and we cannot have our teachers scared to create productive, critical learning environments where our students engage with difficult topics.

  • Gabriel Kahn

    Person

    It is for the respect of the legislative process and for the good policy-making that on such consequential legislation like this that we strongly urge you not to pass this bill out of committee today. Thank you.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you for your presentation. I will now turn it over to our committee members to see if we--oh, actually, apologies. We have people waiting. We will now do #MeToos, and I do want to highlight, typically, we separate #MeToos based off of with those that are in support or opposition, but because we have a number of people, we're going to actually take everybody at once.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I'll defer to the sergeants in terms of, like, how we'll organize this. I recognize there's some folks that are waiting outside and, you know, want to be mindful too, of people that might be standing, but, yeah.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    When you approach the mic, know that you'll identify yourself first and last name, position on the bill, and organization that you're with. We will not be providing any time beyond that, just given the number of folks that we have participating today. Thank you.

  • Theresa Montaño

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Dr. Theresa Montaño. I am a proud member of the California Faculty Association and the chair of the California State University's Council for Ethnic Studies, and I am strongly--we are strongly opposed to AB 715.

  • Tricia Gallagher-Geursten

    Person

    Good evening. Dr. Tricia Gallagher-Geursten, and we are opposed to 715. I represent the California Chapter of the National Association for Multicultural Education, which is the largest multicultural education association worldwide. Thank you.

  • Conrad Crump

    Person

    Good evening, chair and members. My name is Conrad Crump. I'm with Disability Rights California. And while we're not formally opposed to this bill, we do have some major concerns and we've reached out to the author's office. I'm also voicing concerns on behalf of the East Bay Community Law center as well as they have concerns as well. Thank you.

  • Usama Muqaddam

    Person

    Good evening, Madam Chair and members. My name is Usama Muqaddam. On behalf of the California chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations, representing the over 1 million Muslims in California. In strong opposition to this bill. Thank you.

  • Bassem Kara

    Person

    Bassem Al Kara, past President, Twin Rivers Unified School District, Care Action and the over 200 family members massacred in Gaza in strong opposition to this bill.

  • Allyson Tintiangco-Cubales

    Person

    Dr. Allyson Tintiangco-Cubales, distinguished Professor of Ethnic Studies at San Francisco State. And I am directly opposed to AB 715.

  • Lily Call

    Person

    My name is Lily Greenberg Call. I'm a former appointee in the Biden Administration and I was the first and only Jewish appointee to publicly resign from the administration in protest of our President's and the administration's support for Israel's war crimes in Gaza.

  • Lily Call

    Person

    I grew up in San Diego, attended Jewish day school, and I'm a proud Cal Berkeley alum. I'm here as an American Jew who has experienced antisemitism, believes in freedom of speech, democracy, and I strongly oppose this Trumpian authoritarianism, authoritarian censorship bill. Thank you.

  • Debbie Berman

    Person

    My name is Debbie Berman. I'm a California credentialed teacher with 10 years of service in our public schools. As a career educator, I've heard far too many firsthand reports from public school parents and students who have experienced.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I'm sorry, it's name and position and organization only.

  • Debbie Berman

    Person

    Debbie Berman, Jewish Federation of Los Angeles. Also a credentialed teacher in the State of California. I've heard so many first.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    No, we didn't need to just state your position on the bill. If not, we'll have to move to the next person.

  • Debbie Berman

    Person

    For AB 715.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Debbie Berman

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Francesca Mejia

    Person

    My name is Francesca Mejia. I'm a master's and ethnic studies student at San Francisco State University. As a Jewish Chicana, I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Zev Hurwitz

    Person

    Good evening, Senators. My name is Zev Hurwitz. I'm the parent of a Jewish student at a Los Angeles Unified School District campus and I am in strong support of AB 715.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Daryanna. I am a Jewish educator and I strongly say no to this bill.

  • Shen Ramirez

    Person

    Hello. My name is Shen Ramirez. I'm a second year graduate student at San Francisco State University, and I firmly oppose this bill.

  • Lada Kiswani

    Person

    Hello, my name is Lada Kiswani. I'm the Executive Director of the Arab Resource and Organizing Center, Action Iraq Action. I am the daughter of Palestinian refugees who've lost four dozen families in the genocide in Gaza. I'm a mother of a child growing up in the public school system in California.

  • Lada Kiswani

    Person

    I am a member of the California Faculty Association and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Farnaz Gulshani

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Farnaz Gulshani. I'm a former Superintendent, an educator, an Iranian, a Jew who has escaped religious persecution in my lifetime. And I firmly support this bill.

  • Margaret Okuizumi

    Person

    I'm Margaret Okuizumi. I'm a Japanese American watching the Trump Administration trying to erase the history of Japanese internment. I live in the Bay in Sunnyvale in the Bay Area. I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Dina Omar

    Person

    Hello, my name is Dina Omar. I am a faculty Member at UC Berkeley, a parent of a child in Berkeley public schools, and one of a concerned citizen of California and a Democrat. And I strongly. And a Palestinian, a daughter of Palestinian refugees. We too sing America. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Giselle Cunanan

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Dr. Giselle Cunanan. I'm an assistant Professor of Ethnic Studies and Asian American Studies at Sacramento State, daughter of immigrant parents from the Philippines, daughter of a US Navy veteran, grew up in San Diego, member of the California California Faculty Association. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Erica Antonio

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Erica Antonio. I'm a daughter of immigrants from the Philippines. I'm an ethnic studies educator representing Panay Pinoy Educational Partnerships, and I'm a graduate of Asian American Studies from both UC Davis and San Francisco State University. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Scott Steward

    Person

    My name is Scott Steward. I'm from Davis, California. I'm a fourth generation Californian. My grandparents, my great grandparents started Temple Emmanuel in San Francisco. As a Jew, I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Cole Krawitz

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Cole Krawitz. I'm also known by Malka Simba Beniokov Shmuel Vieta. I'm a former lecturer of poetry at the June Jordan Poetry for the People center at UC Berkeley and at Holy Named University.

  • Cole Krawitz

    Person

    I'm an uncle to many kids in the California public education system and a proud anti Zionist Jewish song and ritual leader who is part of the JVP Havara Network and Gaza Freedom Flotilla and where we are supporting thousands of anti Jewish families who deeply believe that Jewish safety is through solidarity and are against the way this legislative body continues to try to weaponize Jewish pain and anti semitism through McCarthyite.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I'm sorry position on the--

  • Cole Krawitz

    Person

    We strongly oppose this bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Nadia Rahman

    Person

    Hello. Good evening. My name is Nadia Rahman. I am here on behalf of the Council of American Islamic Relations, San Francisco Bay Area, and the Arab Resource Organizing Center Action. And I oppose this bill.

  • Mohammed Sheikh

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Mohammed Sheikh. I am the organizing Director of the Arab Resource and Organizer Center Action. As someone who has lost 50 member of my family in Gaza, as someone who has been called antisemitic simply for saying that Israel is committing a genocide and speaking out against it, I oppose this bill.

  • Mohammed Sheikh

    Person

    And I also want to register the opposition of Chinese for affirmative action. Thank you.

  • Reem Shmaui

    Person

    My name is Reem Aladra Shmaui, and I'm an attorney from Davis, California. UCD alum. I'm also a daughter of a Palestinian Nakba survivor. I don't think you'd learn about Nakba with this bill. Thank you very much. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Barry Preisler

    Person

    My name is Barry Preisler. I'm an Emeritus Professor of Political Science from the California State University system or over the last 50 years, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Haiganoush Preisler

    Person

    My name is Haganous Preisler, and my family has experienced genocide and ethnic cleansing. As in California Armenian I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Ian Soroka

    Person

    Ian Soroka, Jewish Californian from Crockett, California. I strongly oppose this. Thank you.

  • Eleanor Gottesman

    Person

    Eleanor Gottesman, a retired pediatrician and a Jewish American, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Richard Keller

    Person

    Richard Keller. I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Satish Chandra

    Person

    My name is Satish Chandra. I'm a parent of Santa Clara School District. I strongly support this bill. I'm not a Jew. Thank you.

  • Li Bin

    Person

    My name is Li Bin. My two kids attend Santa Clara Unified School District. I'm not Jewish. I grew up in Malaysia. But watch in disbelief how Jewish students are harassed and bullied in our schools under the guise of free speech. Vote yes, please. Thank you.

  • Aviv Russ

    Person

    My name is Aviv Russ. I'm from Los Angeles, the son of Jewish immigrants and a concerned father about antisemitism in our schools. I flew here today in support of AB 715, insisting that our public schools remain a place every child may be seen, safe and supported. I urge you to vote yes, please.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    If we could try to close the door, I'd appreciate it. Just so we don't get the echo and the feedback, I think it would be helpful. And we can clearly hear the speaker. If you could please close the door. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Merit. I'm an American citizen and I'm here because I care about all my friends, kids who are suffering. I live in the Bay Area and please vote yes. Thank you.

  • Anna Stepanenko

    Person

    Hello. My name is Anna Stepanenko. My daughters recently graduated from Fremont High School in Sunnyvale where antisemitism is on the rise. My family escaped from antisemitism in Soviet Union. And now our kids experience antisemitism in our beloved California in public schools. We need your help. Our children need your help. Please vote yes. Thank you.

  • Ella Miller

    Person

    Hi, my name is Ella Miller. As a seventh grader I endured extreme antisemitism that forced me to leave the public system. No child should have to suffer as I did. Please support this bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you. That's name, organization and position on the bill, please. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Yes. Mid Lyon Berkeley, California. First generation American child of refugees from the Holocaust. Mother of five went through the Berkeley Unified as I did and eight grandchildren. And I urge you to protect every child in school and vote for for this bill. Thank you.

  • Lisa Lohurst

    Person

    Hello, my name is Lisa Lohurst. I am the daughter in law of two Holocaust survivors and a concerned mom from Danville. I came here today to ask for you to support AB 715. Thank you.

  • Susan Grossman

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Susan Cohen Grossman. I live in Benicia, California. I support the bill and I hope you will too. I'm a concerned Jewish person. I don't have kids. I'm an aunt. Thank you.

  • Lawrence Grossman

    Person

    My name is Lawrence Grossman. I live in Benicia. I am Jewish and I'm particularly frightened by rampant antisemitism in our K12 schools. Unbiased teaching is not censorship. I strongly urge you to support this bill. Thank you.

  • Barbara Nemko

    Person

    I'm Dr. Barbara Nemko. I was the Napa County Superintendent of Schools for 28 years, an educator for 60 years. And the only censorship is in schools of anything that supports anything Israel does. I strongly support this bill. The antisemitism is rampant.

  • Yuval Berenstein

    Person

    Hello. Yuval Berenstein, Associate Regional Director for the Anti Defamation League Central Pacific Region in San Francisco. I have been a victim of antisemitism in our public schools and I strongly support you supporting this bill.

  • Miller Saltzman

    Person

    Good evening, I'm Miller Saltzman with JPAC. I'm here representing the 70 organizations in support of this bill and the yes on AB 750 coalition. I'll read them fast, I promise.

  • Miller Saltzman

    Person

    [Miller reads off all organizations he represents]. Thank you.

  • Seth Morrison

    Person

    Seth Morrison. Excuse me.

  • Seth Morrison

    Person

    Representing a very beautifully diverse coalition of organizations opposing this bill. [He reads off all organizations he represents].

  • Shlomit Blum

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Shlomit Blum from San Jose. A community educator, teacher trainer, founder of Israeli American group fighting antisemitism with an emphasis on education from K to universities. Mother of children who went through every grade in California schools and universities. And if there is one thing that I have.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Can you please name organization and position on the Bill?

  • Shlomit Blum

    Person

    Yeah, definitely. Please vote yes. Do not let importing foreign hate.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    That'll be it. Thank you.

  • Igal Blum

    Person

    Hello, my name is Igal Blum, a scientist working in the Bay Area for 41 years. Please vote yes on AB 715. Our children and grandchildren need your protection against unlawful discrimination while teachers...

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Name and positions on the Bill, please, and organization. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hello, my name is Inette. I'm a high tech entrepreneur, a concerned mom of three kids in the Union School District who now request me to refrain from speaking speaking Hebrew at the fear of being targeted. Please keep our kids safe and support the Bill. Thank you.

  • Barb Windom

    Person

    I'm Barb Windom. I'm mother of two. But I'm here representing over 15,000 California parents, students and teachers of alliance for constructive ethnic studies. ACES strives for unbiased education, inspiring mutual respect, countering racism and discrimination. We're deeply concerned about anti Semitism California's kids are experiencing in the classroom. We strongly support AB 715.

  • Naomi Goldenthal

    Person

    My name is Naomi Goldenthal. I am a high school senior at Los Gatos High School and the President of my school's Jewish Student Union. I have experienced anti Semitism multiple times at school.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just position on the Bill.

  • Naomi Goldenthal

    Person

    I urge you to pass AB 715.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Galit Lipsitz-Goldenthal

    Person

    Thank you. My name is Galit Lipsitz-Goldental. I am the parent of three children in the public school system in Santa Clara County. I'm a volunteer supporting our wonderful teachers there and young students. My children have been affected by Jewish hatred. I urge you to protect all of our children and support this Bill. Thank you.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Again. Name, organization and position on the Bill.

  • Allan Hirsch

    Person

    Thank you. Alan Hirsch, Member, Beth Hoveream in Davis. I'm the social justice chair. Speaking myself. I'm opposed to the Bill also. I'm representing the Sisterhood of Salam Shalom, a national group with my wife is one of the on the National Board and they're also opposed to the Bill. Thank you.

  • Elisa Switzer

    Person

    Hi, my name is Elisa Switzer. I am a Bay Area parent with three children who actually had to remove one of my children from public school due to anti-Semitism, violent antisemitism. I strongly support this Bill knowing firsthand our children...

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    That'll be it thank you.

  • Ofra Pleban

    Person

    I am Ofra Pleban, a legal aid attorney, a resident of Oakland Unified School District. Today the Congress acknowledged a severe antisemitic curriculum in California schools.

  • Ofra Pleban

    Person

    Out of our school. Pass AB 715. Thank you so much.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just position on the Bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Amy Sherman

    Person

    Hello, my name is Amy Sherman. I live in Los Gatos. I'm a parent of two children in Los Gatos public schools. I ask you to please vote yes in support of this Bill. Keep our children safe. Thank you.

  • Nora Talaby

    Person

    Hello. My name is Nora Talaby. I'm a parent, an aunt, a Palestinian American. And I am asking you to oppose AB 715 as censorship does not change racism. But what does is AB 101 Ethnic Studies and understanding one another. Thank you.

  • Rachel Wallace

    Person

    Hello. Rachel Wallace from Jewish Federation Los Angeles. We are the leading organization supporting hundreds of thousands of Jewish community Members across LA and Southern California. We support this Bill and we urge your aye vote. Thank you. AB 715.

  • Ty Gregory

    Person

    Good evening. I'm Ty Gregory, an LGBTQ and Jewish community leader. I serve as the CEO of JCRC, the Jewish Community Relations Council. We're a 75 Member organization.

  • Ty Gregory

    Person

    I'm not going to read you the full list, but for the thousands of calls that we've fielded from parents and students around antisemitic incidents, we must see the passage of the Bill. We urge you to vote yes. Thank you.

  • Julia Mates

    Person

    Julia Mates, Director of Policy and Government affairs at JCRC of the Bay Area. Also a parent. I strongly urge you to please support this Bill. I support this Bill. Thank you.

  • Dina Saba

    Person

    Thank you Senate, Education Committee Members. My name is Deena Saba. I'm a Palestinian American, Orthodox Christian, daughter of a survivor of the 1948 Nakba, an immigrant born a stateless refugee. Founder of the Arab Film Festival. President of the Democrats for Palestinian Rights Bay Area Club, chartered under the Santa Clara County Democratic Party Board Member of the Arab American Cultural center of Silicon Valley and a graduate of the California public school system. I'm a Palestinian whose existence AB 715 discriminates against and seeks to erase. Strongly oppose this Bill.

  • Cindy Burke

    Person

    Cindy Burke, Attorney. Mother. Grandmother. As a mother, my son experienced anti-Semitism in a California public high school. Member of Jewish Americans for Fairness in Education, a project of the Brandeis Center for Civil Rights Under Law. Member of Temple Isaiah of Lafayette. Member of Congregation Netivot Shalom of Berkeley. Member of Mothers Against College Antisemitism.

  • Cindy Burke

    Person

    Member of the Jewish Network of the California UC Berkeley Alumni Association. And I strongly support the Bill. Thank you.

  • Emma Ayanna-Auer

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Emma Ayanna Auer. I'm a Berkeley Public Schools teacher teaching social science and I strongly oppose this Bill. Thank you.

  • Najma Bishlani

    Person

    My name is Najma Bachelani and I am a mom and Member of Democrats for Palestinian Rights as well as JVP. And I urge you to protect all students equally and vote no on this Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Orlie, a Jewish concerned parent from Campbell Union High School District that would like my kids feel included and safe at school. I definitely support this Bill. Thank you.

  • Lisa Dicari

    Person

    Hello. My name is Lisa Dicari. I'm a parent of a high schooler and an educator representing many teachers who wish they could be here but are busy teaching and wish to be supported and not censored. I'm also a representative of Hindus for Human Rights, and we all strongly, strongly oppose this Bill. Thank you.

  • Rina Chimchi

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Rina Chimchi. I'm a mother of two from San Jose and a Member of Bay Area Jewish Coalition. I urge you all to support this Bill to protect Jewish students who are currently being harassed, vilified and ostracized in school. All children.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just position on the Bill.

  • Rina Chimchi

    Person

    Thank you. Please support it.

  • Alina Kaplan

    Person

    I'm Alina Kaplan with ACES Alliance for Constructive Ethnic Studies with 15,000 parents, teachers and community Members. And I'm an immigrant from the former Soviet Union who is horrified by the all too familiar anti-Semitism that we're seeing in classrooms together with the outrageous denials. I'm in strong support of AB 715.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you. Again, name, organization, position on the Bill.

  • Idol Joseph

    Person

    Hello. Hello. My name is Idol Joseph. I have two kids going to the... I'm from Sunnyville, California. I'm a parent of two kids going to public school in the same district where kids were physically assaulted solely for being Israeli. I ask for your help to protect all kids and I urge you to support this Bill. Thank you.

  • Nora Russo

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Nora Russo. I am a proud daughter of two parents who survived the Holocaust in Greece. I am a product of public education from K through the University of California at Berkeley. My child attended California public schools. I am a lawyer who specializes in defending those whose civil rights have been trampled.

  • Nora Russo

    Person

    Any school that does not condemn the deliberate...

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Position on the Bill? Please just state your position on the Bill. If... Please just state. Okay, go ahead. Please escort her out.

  • Daniela Sloan

    Person

    Hi, my name is Daniela Sloan. I'm a student in the Tamil Pius Union High School District where anti-Semitic incidents, discrimination and biased education happens far too often. I strongly support AB 715.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi. I'm a father of three kids in San Jose, they deserve to be protected. Please support this Bill. Thank you.

  • Sam Kramer

    Person

    Hi, my name is Sam Kramer. I'm a Member of the Chabad Synagogue in Sunnyvale. My two grandkids attend school in that city. The harassment and marginalization, which strangely...

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just state your position on the Bill. Thank you. We have many people to get through, and so I want to be respectful of everyone that's been waiting outside that I can't see right now. So that's the reason why we have the parameters around what you all say. So thank you.

  • Maya Ronicki

    Person

    Hello, my name is Maya Ronicki. I'm a parent of four children who are proud products of the public education system of Santa Clara County. Every day I have to deal with another anti-Semitic incident.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please, just. Thank you.

  • Allison Barnes

    Person

    Hello, I'm Alison Barnes, former public school classroom teacher, former CTA chapter President. Please support this Bill.

  • Adriana Lombard

    Person

    Hi, I'm Adriana Lombard, former public school teacher here in California. Please support this Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi. Thank you for being here. My name is Ken. I'm from Contra Costa County. I'm a Jewish father of two. In the public schools, my daughter is feeling increasingly unsafe in the classroom because teaching Free Palestine.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please... state your position on the Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Because my daughter.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    So please just state your position on the Bill. This is not time to...

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Support the Bill because my daughter is being made to feel unsafe in the classroom, which we should not be tolerating.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay, thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    My name is Salita. I'm a mother of three from Palo Alto. I'm here on behalf of hundreds of Jewish students and families who are absolutely terrified. AB 715 is about keeping students.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just state your position on the Bill. I want to make this clear again. Name, organization, position on the Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I'm Jason, father of my daughter at Fremont High School, who's experienced acute anti-Semitism. And I deeply need and support this Bill.

  • Marc Levine

    Person

    Hi, Madam Chair. Hi. Members, I'm former Assembly Member Mark Levine, currently with the Anti Defamation League, co founder of the Legislative Jewish Caucus and a past chair. I am very grateful for all of the hard work that you have done on this Bill. I support the Bill.

  • Marc Levine

    Person

    I was surprised when a teacher at my children's high school said that there were too many Jews.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Mark, you know the rules. Mark, you of all people know the rules. Thank you, Mark.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    We were like somebody would know the rules.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Yuval. I'm a witness of the failure of the school system to face to deal with antisemitism. I strongly support the Bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    My name is Brett and I'm a parent of students in the Berkeley Unified School District where students, Jewish students, are teased about the Holocaust. I strongly urge you to pass this Bill.

  • Doreen Castleman

    Person

    I'm Doreen Castleman. I'm the President of the Jewish Democratic Coalition of the Bay Area. I'm the Vice President of the organization, the Council of Jewish Democrats in Northern California. We are chartered with the California Democrats, Jewish Democrats that are part of our state.

  • Doreen Castleman

    Person

    I'm a retired social worker that worked in the schools and I strongly Please ask you to support this Bill. Thank you.

  • James Castleman

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Dr. James Castleman. I'm a board Member of the Jewish Democratic Coalition of the Bay Area, a concerned parent and strongly support AB 17.

  • Michael Miller

    Person

    Good afternoon. Good evening. Michael Miller here is a private person and a parent who supports civil rights. Thank the authors for the courageous leadership and support this Bill. Thank you.

  • Eleanor Levine

    Person

    Eleanor Levine, proud Jewish grandmother and mother, Professor Emerita, Cal State East Bay, former Member of CFA, present Member of Code Pink, Jewish Voice for Peace. I strongly oppose this Bill. It's bad for us. Thank you.

  • Helen Finkelstein

    Person

    Helen Finkelstein. I'm a retired faculty Member at San Francisco State University. I'm a Member of Jewish Voice for Peace. I strongly oppose this dangerous Bill.

  • Liz Jackson

    Person

    Hi, my name is Liz Jackson. I represent a group called Jewish Parents for Collective Liberation in Berkeley. We represent a couple hundred families who understand that our kids may experience antisemitism and what is, what makes us safer is solidarity. We oppose the weaponization. We oppose this.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please get to the... Thank you.

  • Christina Call

    Person

    Christina Call parent of Berkeley public school students here as a Member of Berkeley Families for Collective Liberation. Oppose.

  • Sabrina Terre

    Person

    Hello, Sabrina Terre. I'm a proud product of the California public high school system and the public University system and a proud auntie and a sister to also people in my family who go to public schools.

  • Sabrina Terre

    Person

    And I also am coming from the Arab Resource and Organizing center in the Bay Area, representing 30 Arab youth all over from the Bay Area and the dozens of families that we serve in our youth program who have been censored. Thank you.

  • Miriam Walden

    Person

    My name is Miriam Walden. I'm an 18 year teacher in the public schools and currently a student at Cal State East Bay. And I oppose this Bill.

  • Yasar Daghbor

    Person

    Hi, my name is Yasar Daghbor and I'm the chair of Palestine American League. I'm a co founder of the Sacramento Regional Coalition for Palestinian Rights. I'm also the former chair of the Arab Emrah Caucus in the Democratic Party. I'm also former Executive board Member and our coalition consists of the following organization...

  • Yasar Daghbor

    Person

    American Muslim for Palestine, Answer Sacramento, Code Pink, Crew Collective, Democratic Socialists of America, Friends of Sebille Sacramento Region, Grandmothers for Peace, Healthcare Workers for Palestine Sacramento, Jewish Voice for Peace Sacramento, Palestine Task Force of the California Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church, Palestine American League, Palestine Israel Working Group of Nevada County, Sacramento Area Peace Action, Sacramento BDS for Human Rights, Sacramento Chapter National Lawyers Guild, Sacramento County Green Party, Sacramento County Peace and Freedom Party, Sacramento Democrats for Justice in Palestine, Students for Justice in Palestine, CSU Sacramento, the Talking Drums News, Unitarian Universalist for Justice in the Middle East Sacramento, United Nations Association Sacramento, UAW Local 2865 Student Workers Union Davis Chapter, Wellstone Progressive Democrats of Sacramento, Women's International League of Peace and Freedom.

  • Yasar Daghbor

    Person

    I'm also the proud father of three Palestinian American children who are proud of their history and they should not...

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state your position on the Bill. I'm fine with you stating organizations...

  • Yasar Daghbor

    Person

    We strongly oppose this awful Bill.

  • Sofia Calderon

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Sofia Calderon. I'm a third year at San Jose State University. I represent today Students for Quality Education at San Jose State, California Faculty Association at San Jose State, and Movimiento Student Chicanx De Aztlan from San Jose State and I urge you to oppose AB 715. Thank you.

  • Oliver Harder

    Person

    Hello, my name is Oliver Harder. I am an advocacy Director at TransTalk at San Jose State. I am an intern with Students for Quality Education at San Jose State under the California Faculty Association. And I'm a Member of Students Against Mass Incarceration and I urge you to vote no on AB 715. Thank you.

  • Katherine Anderson

    Person

    Hello, I'm Katherine Anderson, a master's student at CSU Chico, also with Students for Quality Education and the California Faculty Association and a California resident who knows anti Zionism is not anti Semitism. I strongly oppose this Bill.

  • Sophia Gonzalez

    Person

    Hello, my name is Sophia Gonzalez. I go to SAC State University and I'm with the SQE intern and I'm with the CFA and I strongly disagree and oppose this Bill. Thank you.

  • Aishwarya Kommu

    Person

    Hello, my name is Aishwarya Komu and I am a student at Sacramento State University and I'm a Member of Students for Quality of Education under the leadership of the California Faculty Association. And I strongly oppose AB 715.

  • Armaan Singh

    Person

    Good evening all. I am Armaan Singh, a Sikh American student whose family has also experienced genocide. A student with CSU Sacramento and the Los Rios Community College District here with the California Faculty Association, Students for Quality Education Sacramento, Students for Justice in Palestine, Planned Parenthood Generation Action Committee, the Environmental Student Organization at SAC State and Metcha SAC State and I strongly oppose this Bill and hope we can all respect the democratic process. Thank you very much.

  • Thad Gifford

    Person

    My name is Thad Gifford, I'm a student at Sacramento State University and I'm an intern with Students for Quality Education and I'm also with Students for Justice in Palestine as well as the California Faculty Association and Metcha and I strongly oppose this Bill.

  • Brian Wing

    Person

    My name is Brian Wing, I'm with the Students for Quality Education at Sacramento State University and the California Faculty Association and I strongly oppose this Bill.

  • Luna Lund

    Person

    My name is Luna Lund, I am with California Faculty Association and CFA and myself strongly oppose this Bill.

  • Eun Hae Langes

    Person

    I'm Eun Hae Langes and my Korean name is Pak Eun Hae and I am an former LA Unified School teacher and I am the great a niece of Kim So Woor and I am also representing the Central Coast Coalition for Free Palestine, which includes the following 20 organizations: Arab Student Union, UCSC Critical Race and Ethnic Studies, DSA No Appetite for Apartheid, Indivisible Foreign Affairs, Focus Palestine, Jews Against White Supremacy, Jewish Voices for Peace, South Bay Palestine Justice Coalition, Palestine Solidarity Academy, Panetta Vigil for Human Rights, Resource Center for Non Violence, Salinas Palestine Solidarity, Santa Cruz Jews for a Free Palestine, Santa Cruz San Jose Friends Advocacy Team, Tsim Tsum Collective, Students for Justice in Palestine, UC People's Tribunal for Palestine, UCSC Center for Racial Justice, UCSC Faculty for Justice in Palestine, Green Party Santa Cruz, and I strongly oppose this Bill.

  • Christine Hong

    Person

    Good evening, my name is Christine Hong. I am an ethnic studies educator at UC Santa Cruz where I direct the Center for Racial Justice. I am also a sitting Member on the UC Ethnic Studies Council and I organize with Paro Valley for Ethnic Studies and justice in 90% Latinx Watsonville where we have struggled to get.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay, please, please. Yes. Position. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Nat. I'm speaking on behalf of Pajaro Valley for Ethnic Studies and Justice for the Asian American justice and Innovation Lab and for 18 million rising which organizers the Asian left. I'm also constituent of Don Addis in.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    That'll. That'll be enough. State your position on the bill. I'm applaud by the way she's treated. Please state your position on the bill. If not, we'll be done. Thank you, thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Actions.

  • Karen Perkins

    Person

    Good evening, my name is Karen Perkins, I represent the Mount Diablo Peace and Justice Center. I'm a retired Canadian California teacher who's Jewish and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Jason Mansour

    Person

    Hello, I'm Jason Mansour, I'm a student at Sacramento State University with Students for justice in Palestine. As a first generation Indonesian American.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just state your position on the bill. If you have any other organizations to name, you can do that. But just state your position on the bill.

  • Jason Mansour

    Person

    If not any U. S backed atrocity should be.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just state your position on the bill. Are you going to state your position on the bill?

  • Jason Mansour

    Person

    It's a bill. Thank you very strongly.

  • Arthur Slepien

    Person

    My name is Arthur Slepien, I'm a resident of San Francisco, a proud gay Jew. I'm the President elect of the Bay Area Jewish Community Relations Council and I strongly urge you to support this bill. Thank you.

  • Jonathan Mintzer

    Person

    Good evening. Jonathan Mintzer, Senior Director of Government affairs for the Jewish Community Relations Council. Largest collective voice of Bay Area Jews representing 70 organizations and strong support. Thank you.

  • Cliff Berg

    Person

    Cliff Berg for the Jewish Public Affairs Committee representing over 50 separate different organizations statewide and regional as well as the Simon Wiesenthal Center Museum of Tolerance in strong support of this bill.

  • Naomi Katz

    Person

    Naomi Katz, I'm a 23 year veteran special education teacher at Oakland Unified and a CTA Member and I've witnessed many Jewish families leaving our public schools due to anti.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state your position on the bill.

  • Naomi Katz

    Person

    Please vote yes on the bill. AB 715.

  • Karen Stiller

    Person

    Hello. Karen Stiller, proud public school parent as well as senior Director of Jewish affairs for the Jewish Community Relations Council, Bay Area, representing over 70 Jewish organizations and synagogues in the Bay Area. Thank you and I support the bill.

  • Harriet Gaddesman

    Person

    Hello, my name is Harriet Gaddesman. I am Chairperson for the Countering Anti Semitism Committee for Congregation Bid, Havarim and Davis. I'm on the board of the Jewish Community Relations Commission for the Sacramento Federation. Thank you. Apologies. Sorry. I am also a 30 year veteran teacher and a Member of CTA.

  • Harriet Gaddesman

    Person

    I strongly support this bill and stop anti Semitism. Thank you so much.

  • Jessica Blitzock

    Person

    Good evening. Jessica Blitzock, Director of Community Partnerships for Jewish Community Relations Council, Bay Area. And I support this bill.

  • Nancy Bott

    Person

    Good evening. Nancy Bott, Member of Peninsula Temple Beth El in San Mateo. Please support this bill so my grandchildren and other school aged children can attend school without fear.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I'm David, an Oakland public school teacher and CTA Member asking for support and protection for our community here in support of AB 715.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Rebecca. I work for JCRC Bay Area which represents over 70 Jewish organizations and 110 Members sit on our council. I spent 17 years in California public schools after my grandfather fled Nazi Germany.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please just state your position on the bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I do not feel comfortable sending my two children.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state your position on the bill. Please state your position. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Tal. I'm a proud Israeli American and I experienced anti Semitism at school 10 years ago where no actions were taken to protect me. I strongly support the anti hate bill AB 715. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Thank you. Hi, my name is Michelle and I'm a concerned lesbian Jewish parent who has kids in SFUSD and they've experienced anti Semitism in their schools. I urge you to vote yes on AB 715. Please. Thank you so much.

  • David Mandel

    Person

    Good evening. I'm David Mandel, a retired journalist and a human rights attorney, proud Member of Jewish Voice for Peace Sacramento, A parent of three now adult products of the public school system. Two grandchildren.

  • David Mandel

    Person

    I'm also an elected Member of the Central Committee of the Sacramento and California Democratic Party and and a founder of the newly chartered California Democrats for Justice in Palestine, a part of the Democratic Party. I'm also an Israeli American. I lived in Israel for 10 years. When I was drafted, I refused to serve in the occupied Territories.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please, if you could state any other organizations and your position on the bill.

  • David Mandel

    Person

    Okay, I'm done with the organizations. I'm opposed to this bill because it's enough. Enough of conflating anti Semitism.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you.

  • Marila Nabadilla

    Person

    Hello. My name is Marila Nabadilla. I work for the San Juan School District. I have children in the San Juan School District and I strongly oppose this racist, sectarian, awful, awful bill. Thank you.

  • Jasmine Singh

    Person

    My name is Jasmine Singh. I'm a student at Sacramento State and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Christina Vell

    Person

    My name is Christina Vell and I'm representing APIs for Civic Empowerment and we strongly oppose this bill.

  • Elisa Mamaclay

    Person

    My name is Elisa Mamaclay. I am here representing the philippinex Igniting Engagement for Reimagining Collective Empowerment Coalition and the AAPIS for Civic Empowerment. And we ask you to strongly oppose this bill.

  • Genevieve Kolar

    Person

    My name is Genevieve Kolar. I'm a Jewish descendant of Holocaust victims and survivors. The International Holocaust remembrance alliance and the ADL are two organizations that only serve the interest of Israel.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    That's. That's enough. Your position on the bill. If you're going to state organizations, it's organizations you're representing. What is your position on the bill?

  • Genevieve Kolar

    Person

    They don't represent me either.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    What is your position? Thank you.

  • Danny Portman

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Danny Portman. I live here in Midtown. I have five kids affiliated with Congregation B' Nai Israel. Currently, my wife and myself have been subject to an anti Semitic.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state your position on the bill. Please state your position on the bill.

  • Danny Portman

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    We have 200 people waiting outside, so I want folks to understand why it's important that we make our comments short so everybody is heard. Because we're going to hear from everybody.

  • Michael Harris

    Person

    My name is Michael Harris. I'm a lay leader with Stand With Us, a Los Angeles based organization that works with parents and students combating anti Semitism across the state and the country. I'm also myself an elected Member of the California Democratic Party Central Committee and Stand With Us.

  • Michael Harris

    Person

    Speaking on behalf of Stand With Us and myself, we urge you to support this bill. Thank you.

  • Valerie Rutenberg

    Person

    Hi, my name is Valerie Rutenberg. I'm the stand with U.S. northwest High School educator of students who are experiencing anti Semitism reminiscent of what my parents went through in the Soviet Union. I urge you to support this bill.

  • Nancy Diamond

    Person

    My name is Nancy Diamond and I'm a board Member of a synagogue in the Bay Area and a concerned parent and grandparent. And I urge you to support this bill.

  • Jeffrey Gottesman

    Person

    Hi, my name is Jeff Gottesman. I am here as a concerned community Member and I've come here to respectfully urge you to support this bill. Thank you.

  • Steve Schwartz

    Person

    Steve Schwartz, former school board President. Great relations with teachers. I'm a son of a Holocaust survivor, Auschwitz survivor, son of a teacher. Support AB715. Thank you for your support. And a synagogue board Member.

  • Dena Bloom

    Person

    Hi, my name is Dena Bloom. I am affiliated with Wilshire Boulevard Temple in Los Angeles. 10,000 congregants, 750 kids in their day school program. And as part of that leadership team, we are frequently forced to address concerns and fear.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state your position on the bill.

  • Dena Bloom

    Person

    Hate is okay. I am very much in favor of this bill. Thank you.

  • Elizabeth Friedman

    Person

    Hi, my name is Elizabeth Friedman. I am affiliated with Temple Isaiah in Los Angeles working on combating anti Semitism. I'm in support of this bill. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Jacob. I'm here on behalf of Jewish Family and Children's Services of San Francisco, the Peninsula, Marin and Sonoma counties to express our strong support for this bill.

  • Anna Rogers

    Person

    I'm Anna Rogers. I'm a fourth generation Californian, mother of three girls, all raised in the public schools. And this is not the right thing for this.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state your position on the bill. What is your position on the bill?

  • Anna Rogers

    Person

    Is that it would make it work.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state your position. Either support or oppose. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's enough. Thank you. Well, we're moving on to the next. There's 200 people waiting outside. Thank you.

  • Dana Simas

    Person

    My name is Dana Simas. I urge you to vote no on 715. Don't censor learning on Palestine.

  • Larry Handel

    Person

    My name is Larry Handel. I'm representing Jewish Voice for Peace with 100,000 Members and supporters in California and also the Wellstone Democratic Club in Berkeley, California. Oppose this bill very much.

  • Wendy Greenfield

    Person

    Hello, my name is Wendy Greenfield. I am a lifelong Jewish activist for justice since elementary school. And I organized with the Dolores Huerta Foundation. I was a Member of the California Teachers Association for over 30 years as a public school teacher. And I am presently an organizer with the Jewish Voice for Peace in the South Bay.

  • Wendy Greenfield

    Person

    All three of those organizations strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Marie Hoff

    Person

    My name is Marie Hoff. I'm a Jewish American, Member of JVP and of Temple Beth Israel in Redding, California. And I oppose this bill.

  • Charles Dornfest

    Person

    My name is Charles Dornfest, speaking in support of this bill as a very concerned community Member, parent, grandparent, uncle, grand uncle, and. And speaking on behalf of all those people I'm concerned about.

  • Rita Fabi

    Person

    Hi, my name is Rita Fabi. I'm a parent of children in the Piedmont Unified School District. I strongly urge you to support this bill. As I've seen firsthand that schools do not know how to respond when an anti Semitic incident happens. Thank you.

  • Gail Argon

    Person

    Hi, my name is Gail Argon. I'm a Jewish Israeli American and the parent of a student in the Oakland Unified School District. And I'm deeply concerned about his right to a safe education, Education free from discrimination. And I urge you to support this bill. Thank you.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Again, name, organization and position on the bill. We're trying to get through everybody that wants to speak today.

  • Jb Leibovich

    Person

    Hi, I'm J.B. Leibovich. The Oakland Jewish Alliance strongly supports this bill.

  • Jeff Lipset

    Person

    All right. Jeff Lipset, parent of a child in the Akalani's Union School District. I strongly support this bill.

  • Ezra Barani

    Person

    Hi. Ezra Barani, 15 year science teacher at Oakland Schools, California schools, and I strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Sabrina Fitzsimmons

    Person

    My name is Sabrina Fitzsimmons. I'm not Jewish, but I'm proud to be here today in support of this bill. Thank you.

  • Debbie Brown

    Person

    Hi, I'm Debbie Aza Brown. I'm a Member of local Mosaic Law Congregation, and I strongly urge you to support the bill.

  • Jim Lindbergh

    Person

    Jim Lindbergh, on behalf of the Friends Committee on Legislation of California in opposition to AB 715. Thank you.

  • Shira Gilbert

    Person

    Hi, I'm Shira Gilbert and I'm a board Member at Mosaic Law Congregation here in Sacramento, and I strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Donald Gilbert

    Person

    Madam Chair and Member Don Gilbert. On behalf of my children and grandchildren, and I want to thank everyone who worked hard on this bill. Support it. Thanks.

  • Jocelyn Herman

    Person

    Hello, my name is Jocelyn Herman. I'm Vice Chair of the Jewish Community Relations Council here in Sacramento, and I strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Jeffrey Burdofski

    Person

    Hello, my name is Jeffrey Burdofski. I'm a parent of a small daughter here in Sacramento, and I support this bill.

  • Randy Pollack

    Person

    Randy Pollack, past President of Mosaic Law Congregation, in support.

  • Zach Miller

    Person

    Zach Miller, in support. Thank you.

  • Ardith Scholler

    Person

    I'm Ardith Scholler. I'm a Member of the JCRC here in Sacramento. I'm also a professional Jewish educator. I strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Clary Schumann

    Person

    My name is Clary Schumann. I am on the Executive board of the local Jewish Community Relations Council, and I strongly support the bill.

  • Joe Castler

    Person

    Joe Castler, They Them pronouns. I am on the Sacramento Jewish Community Relations Council. And as a librarian and as someone who grew up in the Sacramento City Unified School District, I strongly support this bill.

  • Ben Murphy

    Person

    Ben Murphy, on behalf of Public Advocates, in respectful opposition. Thank you.

  • Larry Best

    Person

    Hello, my name is Larry Best. I am an Alameda parent and a gay man, and my children have gone through the public school system. I've worked with area who have submitted.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please state organization and position on the bill. So if you're done listing organizations, what is your position on the bill?

  • Larry Best

    Person

    I want to support it, but I can't.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay, then that's okay. Okay.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Musa with the Council on American Islamic Relations, California. And we oppose AB 715's erasure of critical voices in our classrooms. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Gabriel. I'm with the Council on American Islamic Relations, and we oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Jennifer Van

    Person

    Hi, I'm Jennifer Van. I'm with Jewish Voice for Peace in Sacramento. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Alex Day

    Person

    Hello, my name is Alex Day. I'm a teacher at Berkeley High. I'm part of Berkeley Federation of Teachers for Palestine, a rank and file group. And I oppose AB 715.

  • Jamari Calloway

    Person

    Good evening. Jamari Calloway, also at Berkeley High. Also with Berkeley Federation of Tutors for Palestine. And I also strongly oppose AB17. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    My name is Stephanie. I'm a 16 year public high school social studies teacher, UC Berkeley. PLI graduate, 2023. And a Member of Berkeley Federation of Teachers and Teachers for Palestine. This bill will not make Jewish kids safe. Please position on the bill. Please support.

  • Mindy Spat

    Person

    Hello, I'm Mindy Spat. I'm a Jewish grandmother. I'm a Member of Orshalom Jewish community. I'm a volunteer with Faith in Action here. Representing both myself and the Harvey Milk Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual Democratic Club. The club and myself oppose very strongly this bill. Anti Semitism is based in ignorance.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you.

  • Carla Schick

    Person

    Hi, my name is Carla Schick. I'm a Member of Quit Coalition for Liberated Ethnic Studies. CTA retired. And a proud 30 year veteran Jewish and queer teacher and mentor. Whose students thrive with a critical thinking education, including Palestine. Please see your position. Oppose this bill.

  • Lori Wager

    Person

    Good evening. I'm Lori Wager, retired UESF and CTA teacher. Elementary school all the way up to college. Also a Jewish Member of the Jewish community or shalom. Faith in Action. Strongly oppose this bill. Huge mistake.

  • Liz Price

    Person

    My name is Liz Price. I'm the mother of a ninth grader in the California public school system. And I strongly oppose this extremely frightening and dangerous bill.

  • Michael Lyon

    Person

    Michael Lyon, a Jewish teacher who remembers when the church wanted creation science in the schools. Jewish Voice for Peace. American Federation of State, County Municipal Employees. No. 1 censorship. No on this bill.

  • Kathy Burek

    Person

    My name is Kathy Burek. I'm a Member of Jewish Voice for Peace. And a City College of San Francisco faculty union Member where I've taught for 46 years. I strongly support student safety, but I oppose the harm that censorship causes. I oppose the.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Can you state your position please on the bill?

  • Kathy Burek

    Person

    Strongly oppose it.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay, that's good enough. Thank you. Good evening. Yes, again. Name, organization, position on the bill. We have many people waiting outside and we're going to get through everyone. So name organization, position on the bill. Out of respect for everyone. Thank you.

  • Sharon Fritsch

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Sharon Fritsch. I'm from the Chico Palestine Advocacy and Information Network. I oppose the bill. Thank you.

  • Donnie Zastrow

    Person

    Hello. My name is Donnie Zastrow. I'm here with C. Pain, Chico Palestine Action and Informational Network, Resistors Chico, Chico Peace Alliance, and myself as a concerned parent. And we oppose this bill.

  • Kara Hanmetti

    Person

    Hi, my name is Kara Hanmetti, President of Turkish Peace and Justice Committee. We oppose the bill. Thank you.

  • Jusik Palmer

    Person

    And Jusik Palmer, I'm the treasurer of the Jewish Democratic Club for the Greater Sacramento region, and I urge you to vote yes on AB 715. Thank you.

  • Bruce Palmer

    Person

    Bruce Palmer, representing the Jewish Federation of the Greater Sacramento Region in strong support of AB 715. Thank you.

  • Brenda Borge

    Person

    Brenda Borge, active CTA, retired teacher, and I urge support of this bill.

  • Dana Schwartz

    Person

    Hi, I'm Dana Schwartz, a Jewish woman and psychotherapist, a mother, a grandmother of children who attended or are attending California public schools. I also represent the Middle East Peace Committee of Kehla Community Synagogue in Oakland, and we strongly oppose this bill. It will help nothing. Thank you.

  • David Schonholtz

    Person

    I'm David Schonholtz with JCRC Bay Area. I'm a Berkeley resident who is terrified for Jewish students in California. I strongly support this bill. Please.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you. Name, organization, position on the bill again.

  • Jeremy Durazo

    Person

    Hi, I'm Jeremy Durazo. I'm with JCRC Bay Area, and as a parent, I strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Alisa Kang

    Person

    My name is Alisa Kang. I live in Sacramento, California, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Dave Passavoy

    Person

    Dave Passavoy, California taxpayer and voter. I am very pro this bill.

  • Greg Grunwald

    Person

    My name is Greg Grunwald. I'm a counselor here at McClatchy High School, and I support this bill.

  • Nathan Dozert

    Person

    My name is Nathan Dozert. I am an outside vendor for STEM education in schools, work on a number of schools in the area. I oppose this bill. Will not solve what it's.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Ruth Fletcher

    Person

    Hello, my name is Ruth Fletcher. I'm the Board Chair for Jewish Silicon Valley, and I strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Jennifer Rader

    Person

    Hi, my name is Jennifer Rader. I'm an educator in West Contra Costa Unified School District and a Member of Congregation Beth El in Berkeley, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Margie Hutchison

    Person

    Hi, my name is Margie Hutchison. I am a parent of kids who went through the Berkeley public school system and a Member of Kahila Community Synagogue. I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Barbara Wenger

    Person

    Hi. Barbara Wenger, West Contra Costa Unified educator. I strongly oppose the bill.

  • Allison Brauning

    Person

    Allison Brauning, a disappointed Member of the California Teachers Association, and I support this bill.

  • Alain Rivier

    Person

    Alain Rivier from Eureka, California, Chair of the Hubble Progressive Democrats. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Lawrence Abbott

    Person

    Lawrence Abbott, Lathrop, California, Jewish Voice for Peace, in strong opposition to this bill. It's terrible.

  • Derick Lennox

    Person

    Good evening, Chair and Members Derek Lennox, on behalf of the California county superintendents, in respectful opposition.

  • Paula Rainey

    Person

    Paula Rainey, Alameda. Alameda Family and Friends for Collective Liberation and Northern California Seville Ecumenical Organization. I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Dylan Castleton

    Person

    Hi, my name is Dylan Castleton. I'm with Jewish Voice for Peace and Taxpayers Against Genocide. I'm a parent of a junior at Berkeley High School, and my wife and daughter and I all oppose this bill very, very much. Thank you.

  • Monique McDaniel

    Person

    Hello, my name is Monique Mcdaniel. I'm a California Faculty Association Member as well as an ethnic Studies educ at SAC State Folsom Lake College and Sierra Community College, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Ej Price

    Person

    Hello, My name is E.J. Price. I'm a former graduate of Sac State University, and I am a family Member to many teachers, and I strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Martin Putnam

    Person

    My name is Martin Putnam. I'm a lawyer and Chairman of the Gaza Group at Indivisible East Bay. Also proud grandparent of three children, Oakland Public Schools. I strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Olivia Labrasca

    Person

    Hi, my name is Olivia Labrasca. I'm just a person and I oppose this bill.

  • Emily Alma

    Person

    Hi, I'm Emily Alma. I am the granddaughter of Holocaust survivors and a Member of the Chico Palestine Action and Information Network. I oppose this bill and represent many people who do.

  • Sarah Connor

    Person

    Hello, my name is Sarah Connor. I'm a rank and file Member of SEIU 1021, working in the Sacramento City Unified School District, and I'm the Chair of the International Committee of the Democratic Socialists of America Sacramento Chapter. I oppose this bill.

  • Farzad Kilmer

    Person

    Hello, this is Farzad Kilmer, and I have two sons that I'm raising by myself on autism, and one of them is low functioning. The reason I mentioned that is because there was dozens and dozens of people in the line that wanted to vote no, but had to go home because of their family situations.

  • Farzad Kilmer

    Person

    I please ask you to strongly vote no or at least abstain. Thank you so much.

  • Michael Bachelder

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Michael Bachelder. I'm from San Mateo, California, and I'm a Member of Jewish Voice for Peace, and I and JVP strongly oppose this bill.

  • Karis Taylor

    Person

    Hello, my name is Karis Kazako Taylor. I'm a teacher in the Berkeley Unified School District, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Azra Haley

    Person

    My name is Azra Haley with Jewish Voice for Peace, Sacramento, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Candace Youngblood

    Person

    My name is Candace Youngblood, and I'm a public high school teacher, and I strongly oppose this bill. Y' all should be embarrassed of yourselves. Okay, that's enough. Thank you.

  • Lee Howard

    Person

    Hi there. My name is Lee Howard. I'm from Corta Madera, California. I'm a parent in the Larkspur Corta Madera School District. A parent in the Tam Unified School District. I'm a UC Berkeley grad and I support this bill. Thank you.

  • George Landau

    Person

    Good evening. I'm George Landau. I'm 92 plus years old and I've gone through World War II and survived both the German part and the Russian part. I'm a former board Member of the Reed School District and I strongly, strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Rhonda Kravitz

    Person

    Hello. My name is Dr. Rhonda Rios Kravitz. I'm a retired dean from Sacramento City College and a former Professor at Sacramento State. And I am here on behalf of our friends at the University of California Student Association representing over 230,000 undergraduate students across nine UC campuses and Alianza and Sacramento Immigration Coalition.

  • Rhonda Kravitz

    Person

    And we strongly, strongly oppose this bill.

  • Sue Saunders

    Person

    Hi, this is Sue Saunders. I strongly oppose the bill and I'm in Jewish Voice for Peace Sacramento and I'm also associated with Congregation Bene Israel in Sacramento. We strongly oppose the bill. Thank you.

  • Alice Finan

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Alice Finan. I'm from Humboldt County, Blue Lake, California. I am an educator. I was a co Director at Mistwood Educational Center where I'm still on the board. I'm here representing my two teenage children who have and are going through a public high school education. I am representing Humboldt for Palestine, a.

  • Alice Finan

    Person

    Collective dedicated to the total liberation of Palestine. And we all strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Genevieve Arcata

    Person

    Hello. My name is Genevieve Amadouri Arcata, California resident, mother of three Palestinian American children, with family currently enduring criminal apartheid. Worse than criminal apartheid, criminal occupation, settler colonialism in Palestine. I oppose the supremacist censorship and genocide whitewashing bill.

  • Johan Denorthe

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Johan Van Denorthe, a former lecturer, a retired lecturer at Fresno State. I'm a Member of CFA and I oppose this bill. I think it's a bad bill.

  • Carrie Aced

    Person

    Hello. I am Carrie Aced. I drove up from Ventura left at 8 this morning. Because I felt so strongly it was important to be here to share my thoughts. I am an educator and my family are Jewish. Anti Zionist. All of us strongly stand against allowing basically fascist right wing censorship to rewrite our.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please name again. Name and position on the bill. Name, organization, position on the bill. I just want to remind everyone we're trying to get through. Everyone.

  • Carrie Aced

    Person

    We couldn't hear it out there, but thank you.

  • Jess Arrigo

    Person

    Yes, my name is Jess Arrigo. I'm here as an individual. I live in Sacramento County. I'm here as an individual who went to California Public School where I was lied to about the Irish potato.

  • Alana Moakler

    Person

    My name is Alana Moakler. I am a graduate of California Public Schools and a Member of Yolo for Palestinian justice and Woodland for Peace. I'm also here representing someone, Teresa Robinson, who is a credentialed school nurse and a Member of California Teachers Association. She was in line, but due to the delay she had to leave.

  • Alana Moakler

    Person

    And I would like to express both of our strong, strong opposition to AB 715. Thank you.

  • Ranjit Tate

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Ranjit Tate. I'm with Jewish Voice for Peace and with the Alliance of South Asians Taking Action. I'm also a parent and I do not want my children's humanitarian.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please, your position on the bill. There you go. Okay.

  • Basil Ayesh

    Person

    Basil Ayesh. I'm the son of Palestinian Nakba survivors who want my children to have their and current reality honestly discussed in the classroom without fear, censorship, discrimination or the denial of Israel's current genocide. I'm also a Member of Arab Resources and Organizing Committee action and oppose this censorship bill.

  • Sanam Dusamad

    Person

    Hi, my name is Sanam Dusamad, I live in Sacramento. I'm an educator counselor and I oppose this bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you again because we have new folks that are coming in it's name, organization and position on the bill. We're trying to get through everyone I know there's some people that that can't stand for very long that are leaving. So out of respect for them, please name organization, position on the bill.

  • Eva Crisanti

    Person

    Thank you. Eva Crisanti, Marin County Confidential.substack.com I strongly oppose this pro censorship bill. AB 715. Thank you.

  • Mohammed Misalam

    Person

    Mohammed Misalam. I came from Stockton as individual. I oppose no on ABC 715.

  • Seth Schlussel

    Person

    Good evening, Senators. My name is Seth Schlussel with the Anti Defamation League representing Northern California and I strongly support this bill. Thank you.

  • Noah Levitt

    Person

    Hi, my name is Noah Levitt. I'm a Jewish father of four public school kids. My wife is a public school teacher and I oppose this bill.

  • Andrew Youssef

    Person

    Hi, my name is Andrew Youssef. I'm a resident of San Francisco and a Member of the Democratic Socialists of America, San Francisco and I strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Samantha Stringer

    Person

    Hello, my name is Samantha Stringer. I'm a resident of Sacramento, California and I am a Member of Jewish Voices for Peace and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Sam Alpedy

    Person

    Good evening, my name is Sam Alpedy. I'm a Member of the Democratic Socialists of America, San Francisco and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Emily Cody

    Person

    Good evening, I'm Emily Cody. I'm an attorney in San Francisco. I'm a graduate of LAUSD schools and currently a student at the City College of San Francisco. I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, I'm Sarah and I'm a Sacramento resident. I'm also a SAC State alumni and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Amna Kara

    Person

    Hi, my name is Amna Kara and I say no on AP750. I'm from Stockton, by the way.

  • Monica Alvarez

    Person

    Hi, I'm Monica Concha Alvarez. I'm an anthropology major at Sacramento State University and I strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Andrea Castro

    Person

    My name is Andrea De Castro. I'm also an anthropology major at SAC State and I'm part of Students for Justice in Palestine. I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Kaveh Rad

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Kaveh Rad. I live in Oakland. I'm a retired engineer. I'm an Iranian American of both Jewish and Muslim ancestry. I strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Naseem Raad

    Person

    Hello, I'm Naseem Raad. I'm in strong opposition to this bill. Thank you.

  • Casey Southard

    Person

    I'm Casey Southard. I'm a Member of the Yolo County chapter of the Democratic Socialist Association from America and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    My name is M. Plouffe and I am also a Member of the Yolo DSA chapter and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Skyler Blakesley

    Person

    My name is Skyler Blakesley. I'm from Davis, California, Member of Yolo DSA. I oppose this bill.

  • Amira Kot

    Person

    Hi, my name is Dr. Amira Kot. I am an equity and wellness consultant with rida, a nonprofit in Sacramento that serves Middle Eastern refugees fleeing war and genocide. I, as an American, as an Egyptian American, this bill.

  • Manushi Verasingha

    Person

    Thank you. My name is Manushi Verasingha, local business owner and proud Sri Lankan American. As a witness of the long term effects of genocide in Sri Lanka during the Tamil genocide. I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    On behalf of Students for Justice in Palestine at Davis, SAC State, SF State, Dominguez Hill, Stanford, Long Beach, Yale, San Jose, Berkeley, Northridge, usf, Chico State, Occidental, UCLA, San Diego, San Marcos, Irvine, De Anza, Riverside, Santa Cruz, and a Palestinian student myself who did not have these, who did not get any sympathy for my history.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I oppose this bill.

  • Lana Dawood

    Person

    Lana Dawood. And I am a Palestinian student at. Sacramento State and I'm also part of the SJP there and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Leslie Zeiger

    Person

    Leslie Zeiger, Jewish mother with kids in public schools in Santa Clara County, Member of Collective for Inclusive Education. I strongly oppose this censorship education bill.

  • Ronnie Zeiger

    Person

    Hi, I'm Dr. Ronnie Zeiger, parent of kids in Santa Clara County Public Schools, a Member of the Collective for Inclusive Education and a descendant of Holocaust victims And I strongly oppose this bill. It's bad for all of us.

  • Dominique Williams

    Person

    My name is Dominique Williams. I am a mother, a credentialed history, social science teacher and professional learning provider who's been vilified. I'm a Sacramento State ethnic studies graduate student and organizer. I piloted ethnic studies in the Sacramento City Unified School District and work on AB 2016, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    My name is Monica. I'm a credentialed teacher, part of the. First ethnic Studies master's program, cohort at SAC State, advisor for the grassroots organization Brown Issues, and a constituent of Senator Christopher Cavaldon, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Nicole Romfola

    Person

    My name is Nicole Romfola. I'm a student of the inaugural cohort of Ethnic Studies at California State University, Sacramento, and I strongly oppose the this bill.

  • Robin Denton

    Person

    My name is Robin Kelly Denton. I'm a first generation college student and a graduate student of the Ethnic Studies inaugural program at California State University, Sacramento, and the wife of an educator in the Sacramento City Unified School District, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Zeynep Abdullah

    Person

    Hello, my name is Zeynep Abdullah. I'm an ethnic studies adjunct Professor and a current graduate student in the first ethnic studies master's program at Sacramento State, and I strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Natalie Freestone

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Natalie Freestone. I'm a researcher in microbiology, a student at SAC State, a Member of SJP at SAC State, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Benny Tran

    Person

    Hey, I'm Benny Tran. I'm a student at Sacramento State, Member of Students for Justice in Palestine there, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hello, my name is Dimitri. I am a Jewish Member of California State University chapter of Sacramento Students for Justice for Palestine. I astonishedly refuse and against this Anti Semitic bill.

  • Alyssa Leva

    Person

    Hi, my name is Alyssa Leva, community organizer from Stockton Stands, Empowering Marginalized Asian Communities, Central Valley BIPOC Coalition and Working Class Unity. We strongly oppose this bill.

  • Damaris Leyva

    Person

    Hello, I'm Damaris Leyva with Stockton Stands and I strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Hanina Butawila

    Person

    Hello, my name is Hanina Butawila, I'm with KRSBCC and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Faizia Farouk

    Person

    Hello, I'm Fozia Farouk from the Council on American Islamic Relations, Sacramento Valley, Central California. I'm the policy coordinator there and we strongly oppose this bill.

  • Omar Mohamedi

    Person

    Hello, my name is Omar Mohamedi from the Council of American Islamic Relations, Sacramento Valley in Central California, and we strongly oppose this bill.

  • Riaz Mojadiri

    Person

    Hello, my name is Riaz Mojadiri. I'm also from the Council of Islamic Relations, and we strongly oppose this bill.

  • Deborah Condon

    Person

    Hi, I'm Deborah Condon. I'm a ESL teacher and Member of Jvp, Jewish Voice of Peace. And. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Joseph Kunkel

    Person

    My name is Joseph Kunkel. As a Jewish American undergraduate student at the University of California, Riverside. My grandfather having been a multi time elect for the Jewish chair at the Marin Interfaith Council, being related to those who suffered the ultimate cost of anti Semitism in the Holocaust.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Your position on the bill please?

  • Joseph Kunkel

    Person

    I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Maya Steinhardt

    Person

    Hello, my name is Maya Steinhardt. I'm a special education teacher in Sacramento Unified School District, a CTA NEA Member as well as a Member of Jewish Voice for Peace. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Dean Freeman

    Person

    Hi, my name is Dean Freeman. I am an Israeli American Jew and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Darian Delou

    Person

    I'm Darian Delou. I'm with the Sacramento branch of the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom. I'm a credentialed teacher secondary in California. We strongly oppose this bill.

  • Nikki Jones

    Person

    Hi, I'm Nikki Jones. I'm just a. I was a student of the school system and have a lot of loved ones who both teach and are being taught in it. And we all strongly oppose this bill.

  • David Bridge

    Person

    Hi, I am David Blumenfeld Bridge. I am Professor Emeritus of mathematics. I have taught in Oklahoma, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. I have classroom experience and I know the importance of safety.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please share your position on the bill.

  • David Bridge

    Person

    That being said, I know the importance.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Please share your position on the bill. Please share your position on the bill. Do you have a position to share on AB 715, sir?

  • David Bridge

    Person

    Therefore, strongly support AB 715.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • David Bridge

    Person

    Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Professor Emeritus Oricritz. Hello. There is no room for hate in education. I strongly support the bill.

  • Susan Kitchell

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Susan Kitchell. I'm a San Francisco resident. I am the daughter of two Holocaust survivors and I am coming just shy of 30 years as a CTA Member. I wholeheartedly support this bill, and you should, too.

  • Jonathan Bennoun

    Person

    Good evening. Jonathan Bennoun, concerned community member who have seen multiple people, young and old, attacked in our community, physically and verbally. Please vote yes on this bill. Thank you.

  • Renzan Dallas

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Renzan Dallas. I am an ethnic studies educator through Panay Pinoy Educational Partnerships and a student at San Francisco State University. I strongly oppose AB 715 due to its inaccurate. Complete. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Rosario Macijilis

    Person

    Hi. My name is Rosario Macijilis. I'm a resident of Daly City, California, an arts and culture commissioner of Daly City. I'm a student and staff Member at San Francisco State University, coordinator with Pinoy Panay Educational Partnerships and the Filipino Mental Health Initiative of San Francisco, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Eve Hirschkoff

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Eve Hirschkoff. I'm a member of Jewish Voice for Peace Bay Area and the daughter of Holocaust survivor. I strongly oppose this bill and urge you to vote no. Thank you.

  • Abdoul Draydar

    Person

    Hello, my name is Dr. Abdoul Malik Draydar. I'm a resident of Elk Grove, California, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Maysoon Lisbah

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Maysoon Lisbah. I'm a resident of Elk Grove, California, and a concerned citizen and taxpayer, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Sabeel Khan

    Person

    Hello, my name is Sabeel Khan, and I'm a member of the Muslim community of Sacramento, and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And a reminder for those folks that just came in, we're doing name, organization, position on the bill. We want to make sure we get through everybody that came here to speak.

  • Jorge Pacheco

    Person

    Hi, my name is Jorge Pacheco Jr.

  • Jorge Pacheco

    Person

    I'm a California certified certificated public school teacher specializing in Native studies, and elected trustee of the Santa Clara County Board of Education, a proud member of the Maya American, Korean American, Salvadoran American communities, an incoming PhD in education student at Claremont Graduate University and a future parent of public school students here in California, and President of the California Latino School Board Association, representing school board members all across the state.

  • Jorge Pacheco

    Person

    And on behalf of CLSBA, we strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Maimona Silberta. I am the President of the Santa Clara County Board of Education, speaking in my personal capacity. I'm also a California credentialed special education teacher. And longtime local CTA chapter union leader espoused to a member of the California Teachers Association, an organization that opposes this bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    A proud public school parent delegate for the California School Boards Association, another organization that also opposes this bill and strongly opposing AB 715.

  • Lane Begay

    Person

    Good evening. My name is Lane Begay. I'm an indigenous from the Navajo Nation and I'm a future parent of public school kids and a partner to an educator. And I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Ella Roberts

    Person

    My name is Ella Roberts. I'm about to teach science at the junior high or high school level. I have grandchildren and children and great grandchildren who attended Sac City Unified School District. And my organization is the Peace and Freedom Party Central Committee. And I oppose this bill.

  • Carlos Machado

    Person

    Good evening. Carlos Machado with the California School Board Association CSBA as opposed to SB RAB 715. Thank you.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Hi, my name is Tayeba and I'm talking on behalf of Islamiya Mosque in Concord. Islamic center of North California in Oakland. Jafariya Islamic Society of Quaday in California. Shia Association of Bay Area Shia Itna Ashari Islamic Jamaat of Los Angeles. Zainabiya Islamic Society in Claremont. Institute of Islamic Philosophy and Mystical Thought in Panaruma City.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Masjid Al Fatima in Orangeville. And on behalf of everybody, all the members of those organization, we strongly oppose this bill. Thank you.

  • Tristan Brown

    Person

    Good evening, Madam Chair and members. Tristan Brown with CFT Union of Educators and Classified Professionals here tonight in respectful opposition for slightly different rationale, but dedicated to working with the Legislature to making sure every child feels safe on our campuses. Thank you.

  • Diana Vu

    Person

    Diana Vu, on behalf of the Association of California School Administrators office, also in respectful opposition. Thank you.

  • Eric Paredes

    Person

    Good evening. Eric Paredes with the California Faculty Association on behalf of our 29,000 members who work in the California State University system, in respectful opposition. Thank you.

  • Eric Ellis

    Person

    Hello. Eric Ellis and I strongly oppose this Zionist bill. Thank you.

  • Ben Herman

    Person

    Good evening. Rabbi Ben Herman, Mosaic Law Congregation Thousand families strongly in favor of this bill to fight antisemitism.

  • Anna Bell

    Person

    Hello, I'm Anna Bell. I go to SAC State and I strongly oppose this bill.

  • Ahmed Yunus

    Person

    Hi, my name is Ahmed Yunus. Moved here from Socan three years ago. Saint Lue in Sacramento. Strongly oppose this bill. We are trying to rewrite the history. Let's not do that.

  • David Bocarley

    Person

    Hey, Chair, members. David Bocarley, the Executive Director of JPAC. We are the proud sponsors of this bill and we are proud to be able to say that we have the largest coalition of Jewish organizations to ever support a California bill. We have 70 organizations on in support. I apologize in advance, but because of the late notice,

  • David Bocarley

    Person

    not all of them could be here and I want to make sure they're all named. [David lists all organizations he represents]. Thank you so much. We urge your support.

  • Aubrey Rodriguez

    Person

    Aubrey Rodriguez with ACLU California Action and strong opposition. I just want to I'm here available for technical assistance to answer any questions about first speech and our position. Thank you.

  • Leah Miller Restivo

    Person

    Hello, My name is Leah Pamela Miller Restivo. I'm the granddaughter of Holocaust survivors. I'm representing the Santa Cruz County Jewish Community. I'm a former California public school teacher of children with special needs and former chairperson for the Santa Cruz County Head Start Policy Council.

  • Leah Miller Restivo

    Person

    I'm the mother to five not just religiously but immutably ethnic Jewish children who have all experienced anti Semitism in the California public school system and including Lev Miller Ruderman, right here. And we are in strong support of AB 715. Thank you.

  • Henry Stern

    Legislator

    Henry Stern, Los Angeles, one of your colleagues thanking everyone for this peaceful gathering here today and respectfully supporting the bill.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I'm Jesse. I'm the dad of three Jewish boys in public school. I love them more than anything and I strongly support this bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Alrighty. Are there any other speakers, Mr. Zbur? Okay, it looks like we have gone through the full list. I'm going to go ahead and turn it back now to the members of this committee for discussion and questions. Does anybody have any questions or comments that would like to begin? Senator Choi.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Thank you, Chair. It has been a long night, very, I guess, controversial item. I have a couple of questions, but let me try to limit to one- one- one question and make my comments on that bill.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    We only received a new language for this bill last night at about 6 o' clock and ultimately I wonder if we should be supporting such big changes to this bill when the public has had less than 24 hours to to read the new language and contact the committee in support or opposition.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Can you explain now what the conversations you've had with the opposition since the July 1st amendments and why we are seeing this new version of the bill only two days before the deadline to pass all bills to the Governor?

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    So after the- before the recess when we made the decision to postpone the initial hearing, the Education Committee and the pro tem's office engaged in extensive meetings with all the key stakeholders to obtain their input on the bill.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    The bill did have, you know, we did have a bill in print before and, and we made changes to the bill, but there was extensive dialogue with the Education Committee and the pro tems office by a wide range of stakeholders.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Do you want to add anything?

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    I'll just add that it's not atypical, that this is not an atypical process. We have many bills that are on Shorter timelines at times and this one will continue to go through the process should we have the honor of getting it out of this committee.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    I understand there was big amendments. Can you highlight the major points of amendments for us members and also public need to know.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    So most of what occurred in the bill is actually pulling the bill back in a number of areas. There was a definition of antisemitic learning environment in the prior bill that was removed from the bill. We actually made changes to the bill that actually. Let me get the sheet of paper.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Yeah.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    We had sections in the Bill that had been actually recommended by the education—many of the education stakeholders—originally to put in California Department of Education standards related to how you deal with controversial topics. There had been two portions of the Bill related to that.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    That—those—sections of the Bill were taken out of the Bill and replaced with some standards that were put into the Bill, already existing sections of the law related to how you—some guard posts related to what's our appropriate instructional materials and what's appropriate instruction that's consistent with existing standards and with existing California case law.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    We made—the biggest change was the creation of the Office of Civil Rights, which is before we actually had an Anti-Semitism Coordinator that was part of the Bill. Some of the input that we had was that it's appropriate to focus on discrimination from all communities that are protected under Section 220 of the Education Code.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And so, one of the comments that we had had on the Bill was that we should actually expand those protections. So, the Bill does create an Office of Civil Rights within which an Anti-Discrimination Coordinator is created. There is another bill that will actually create other discrimination prevention coordinators within the Office of Civil Rights.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And so, that is the main big change. But much of the responsibilities of the Anti-Semitism Coordinator were already in the prior version of the Bill, and I can go into detail if you'd be interested in that. But those are, I think, the key, the key areas.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Senator.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Yeah. Before you say anything, let me ask you opposition witnesses. Since we have had less than 24 hours to read this Bill and discuss with the stakeholders, I would like to ask you, opponents, what amendments were taken that address your concerns?

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Can I just respond briefly to some of the comments before I answer?

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I'm sorry. So.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    You can answer to my question, what the.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    For both the support and opposition, unless the Committee Member goes and asks a question directly, I want to avoid doing the back and forth. So, I just want to flag that. So, Senator Choi, do you have a question for the opposition?

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    I ask that question.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Yeah. Since you had less than 24 hours to read this Bill and discuss it with the US stakeholders, I would like to ask you, the opponents, what amendments were taken that address your most concerns?

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    This has been, you know, a tough conversation, certainly. I think we've had a lot of conversation with the Chair of your Committee, with the Pro Tem's office. There were some major changes to, for example, as was mentioned, the definition of an anti-Semitic learning environment.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    There were problematic, very limiting, I would say, comments about how you had to speak about Israel, how you had to speak about Palestine, how you had to speak about the Israel Palestine conflict. And we were very concerned with a lot of that language. It's changed now to language that is also concerning.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    So, it's changed now to this phrase "factually accurate" that we think will also create a lot of problems about what's going on in our schools. The author mentioned that this phrase "factually accurate" is currently in the law.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    To be clear, the State Board of Education, when they're adopting instructional materials, uses that term as one of the criteria when they're evaluating curriculum that they want to adopt. That's a very different phrase than what's in the Bill. What's in the Bill says all instruction will be factually accurate.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    And we're very concerned with what the wide ranging implications are of making that very significant change to how our public schools operate.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    You think about, for example, in an English language arts class, if, you know, if you're trying to analyze fiction with students, but now we have a piece of law that says all instruction must be factually accurate. What are the implications in a performing arts class?

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    There's very widespread implications here for a comment like that, which is truly in a criteria piece that we look at when we're looking at instructional materials and we're changing it to apply to all instruction, which is a huge difference. So, we're very concerned with some of those kinds of changes that have occurred in the language.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Additionally, there is new language that's focused on personal opinion. There's phrases like "advocacy." We're concerned about how those terms are going to be used in this part of the law.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    So, in other words, there was a concern. We had a big concern with controlling what's going to happen in the classroom, how teachers are going to teach, what topics you're going to be discussing, and how you're going to be discussing them, very specifically around Israel, Palestine, Israel Palestine conflict, some of those.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    But now we have a set of concerns based on using different terms in this highly politicized environment. How it's going to be essentially in some school communities allowing folks who are seeking—I'm wondering, when I say advocacy in the classroom, can my identity itself in some communities in California be considered advocacy?

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Like there are areas in this state, in this political climate, where you will see that weaponized, not just against public schools, but certainly directly against educators. So, we have big concerns.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Okay, listening to you, this particular Bill, in fact may open up—and I really struggled with this Bill to make up my mind, either to support or not, because AB 715 had two major concerns. Number one was this particular Bill may open up the flood of floodgate of "me too," so to speak, by different groups.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Why just Jewish group with the anti-Semitism concerns? Number two is that all day long, my phones in my Capitol office and then also district office were ringing off the hoko, you know, last couple days. And interestingly, the opponents and the support group were a little bit different.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    That divided. The support people and opposition in the Capitol area and from my district, a little bit different. Different. So, in fact, I never heard about the anti-Semitism issue until I came to this country from my home country of South Korea.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    And I began to wonder and I still ask around people why this issue exists in this country. And part of the answers were given by the support witnesses in the beginning. I can understand the feelings of Jewish people that are being targeted and discriminated and even children are a part and become the target of attacks.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    So, you will remember that during the COVID period, Asian people were targets for Asian hate. And a lot of people were punched, shot in those bad language slurs, and then I think that the sentiment still lingers.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    And then, also, historically in American history, that I don't know much about, but partially what I know is that such as Chinese immigrants who came here to help, to help lay the railroad, they were discriminated as well. So, now those kind of groups and Asian population now with Asian hate and says what about me? Me too.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    I need the protection. So, the two major concerns really I had. But at a time when anti-Semitism and the other forms of hate are rising across our nation, it is vital that our schools are equipped to respond with both the clarity and the compassion.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Because if we are afraid of solving at least one segment of very prominent target of students, particularly in schools, they just start expressing their hatred without the sensitivities or they experience from schools, early age. So, I was struggling, but I thought why not we start solving one target at a time.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    We may not be able to solve entire issues, but when the issue is up here, maybe we can tackle it and give it a try. So, that's what my thinking is developing right now. AB 715 strengthens our commitment to ensuring that every student feels safe, respected, and free to learn without fear of discrimination.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Even with my accent when I was running, still I have a thick accent because I came at my adult life after my college and military service and I tried to brush up, but my tongue is too thick and I I get discriminated and attacked.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    Even my colleagues a long time ago, school board members, I was going to run for City Council—"Oh, you will not run for City Council with your kind of English," etc., etc. So, this Bill does not diminish anyone's rights.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    It reinforces the protections that already exist and provides educators with the tools and the resources to address incidents proactively. By fostering education awareness and accountability, AB 715 will help prevent ignorance from turning into intolerance. That's what I feel. Our students deserve an environment where they can focus on their future, not fear.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    For these reasons, I'm leaning toward supporting this 715. And if this is effective, then we can expand to other groups of people. I think our general law is already preventing any discrimination, any form based upon the gender, national origin, or sexual orientation or whatever religion. We all know that.

  • Steven Choi

    Legislator

    But that the general law hasn't been that effective still, that the discrimination issue is going on. So, targeting, helping certain specific group with this type of method may prove to be proven to be effective. And so, I think doing some proactive measures is better than doing nothing. So, with that, I'll be supporting this 715 tonight.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    Thank you, Mr. Senator.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you for your comments, Senator Choi. Did I see Senator Gonzalez?

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    Thank you very much. And I do want to thank the Chair and the education consultants and the authors and everyone who came to speak, because I think there were about 500 people, and I think that's what's incredible about this building is that you can have folks from all sides being able to come and speak to their truth.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And I really appreciate that, regardless of agreements or disagreements, I think that's really important. And this is a very, very tough topic. I'll tell you. For me, I'm the Chair of the Latino Caucus here, 38 members strong, and we have been working—gosh, how many meetings have we had?

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I'm laughing because they were about 20 meetings we have had. This is not lost on me that this is not—this is a very difficult subject. It's been a lot of late nights, a lot of pain, a lot of hurt cries between legislators really trying to get it right, and discussions with, of course, our education partners.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I just got off the phone not too long ago with CTA President, David Goldberg, speaking with CFT, talking to CSBA, ensuring that I'm talking to educators in my own family and educators who are texting me left and right because they feel so passionate about this issue.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I want Jewish students to feel as supported as Palestinian students, as Arab students, as Muslim students. I don't know if many people know my family is not just Mexican. They're also of Arab descent as well, and I really take that to heart. I really do. And so, this is why this is, this is hard.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And I can't tell you how deep it feels for so many of us to see the devastation happening in Gaza, to see the devastation and hurt in Israel, and to see your friends that are just pouring their hearts out on all sides. It personally hurts for all of us. I just want to, to start there.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I really appreciate, Senator Choi, your comments, because you had talked about, obviously, components of the Bill, the factual accuracy, which I know still needs some work, I believe. And in working with, I think Chair Perez, who's been doing her very best, a very new member has had to deal with just everything this year—beyond belief.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And then this she's confronted with, to try to get it and strike the right balance, the factual accuracy. And then, also just working with our Diversity Caucus Members, the chairs of the Black Caucus and the API Caucus and the LGBTQ Caucus have been really, really, really, really determined to figure out a way.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    This all started, I will say, and I know we compartmentalize, but it's still very important, with the fact that the Diversity Caucuses want ethnic studies. We absolutely believe in ethnic studies. We want ethnic studies to move forward. It would have put guardrails in which I think could have addressed some of these issues.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    We want our stories told, as Black community members, as Latino community members, as Native community members, as API community members, as a mom right now who is in public—who has a child in public schools—I have to explain to my child a little bit more about Latino history.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    But I also want him to understand what's going on now.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    I want him to understand, you know, that the Supreme Court just basically said that you can racially profile a child because they're brown skin and because they are speaking a different language and they have an accent, as Senator Choi mentioned, which, by the way, we love your accent and we're glad you're here.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    But to his point, too, is we want all of those stories to be told, and we are committed, regardless of what happens today, we are absolutely committed to ensuring that it gets funded and ensuring that our stories are told, too. So, I just want to make that very super clear.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    If I may say, too, that the—in working through many of these, these meetings, which were, again, 20, 30 meetings, we wanted to make sure that we were properly channeling—and excuse me if I'm getting a little emotional, but this, this is hard, right? And I can't even.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    For me, it's hard, but it's very even more difficult, I'm sure, for many of you who've been facing this. So, I don't want to dismiss that. But properly channeling the legislative response away from ethnic studies to antisemitism, and that was agreed upon by the Diversity Caucuses.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And what we have here now is additional discussions that had been made and substantial amendments that were agreed upon by the Diversity Caucuses, a couple of which are making the use of the U.S. national strategy to counter antisemitism report, to make that permissive versus mandatory, and then secondly, remove language that curtailed teacher instruction, that vilifies or ostracizes an individual, which I know is also part of the Ed Coalition's thought process as well.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    So, with all that said, you know, today I will support the Bill. This also is one part of two parts, and I'm going to be very clear in this.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    The second part is the bill that I'm authoring, which is SB 84, myself and the other Diversity Caucus members, which will create coordinators and these other coordinators that are not firmed yet. And we want to make sure that we're getting equal representation as well.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And that includes racial ethnicity, not just perhaps in one bucket, perhaps various buckets, that it also includes LGBTQ discrimination, and it also includes gender discrimination and religious discrimination. That could mean various things. And we're going to ask, as Diversity Caucus members, because this is now something that we have to lift.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    We're going to be asking many of you and our Jewish Caucus colleagues, but our Diversity Caucus colleagues and many in the public, we're going to be asking you for your help in supporting this next step, which will hopefully provide equity in the education space for us to be able to move forward.

  • Lena Gonzalez

    Legislator

    And this is not perfect by any means, but this is something that I feel that will be a next step in supporting our efforts equally. Thank you.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Gonzalez. Senator Eloise Gomez Reyes.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Chair. I also want to begin by thanking the authors, Assemblymembers Zbur and Addis. You've worked very hard and very diligently on this. I want to thank our Chair, who has represented us as a Committee in these negotiations to try to put this Bill in the best light possible, something that we can evaluate.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I also want to thank Mr. Kahn and our friend Mr. Bramble from CTA for bringing the voice of the teachers who are the ones that are asked to—tasked—with a lot of this work.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Rabbi, I want to thank you for being here and for sharing your views, but most especially, I want to thank Lev for taking time because what you shared is very personal. It's something that you have experienced, and it's something that oftentimes we lose in all of this.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I always like to hear from those who have experienced something themselves, because then oftentimes we think, when we're looking at legislation, we think, what is the issue that we're trying to solve? And you helped to identify it. We all have talked about it, but you helped to identify it.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I will share also that I received calls from many in my district, Muslim, Palestinian, who shared the same views that you as a mother, others as parents, have shared that they want their children, their Muslim children, their Palestinian children, their Hindu children, their Latino children, they all want their children.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    And some of the quotes, every child should be seen, safe, and supported. I don't know who said it, but I liked it, so I wrote it down.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I also want to thank our representatives from the Council on American Islamic Relations for being here, from CAIR, for being here, for lending your voice also to an issue that is so important and, and that isn't just a Jewish issue. It is an issue because the bottom line is that we're talking about our children.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    A dear friend of mine, an attorney friend of mine, sent a text when he heard I was going to be voting on this. He said, Eloise, our children are being bullied. And in the end, doesn't matter whose child it is.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    These are California's children, and we have to figure out a way to protect them all and to make them all feel safe and seen and supported. Schools do need to be that safe place where children learn. And that's why my hat's off to all the teachers, because they're the ones that are put at the forefront.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    They're the ones that suffer a whole lot sometimes with everything that's going on. A big issue for me was the newest amendments, and specifically, the amendment that talked about something being factually accurate and aligned with adopted curriculum and standards in existing law. The calls, as soon as that came out, the calls started coming in.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Well, somebody may feel something is factually accurate, but I may view it differently. And I said, no, there are some things that if it's a fact, it's a fact.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    And they said, yes, but the problem is that oftentimes, things become political, and it may be a fact, but when you put the politics in, it's going to be a different opinion depending on where—what your lived experiences are. And that is absolutely true.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I know there is language in here to protect our First Amendment rights and to recognize that there is freedom of speech, and we've got to protect that.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    As our Majority Leader mentioned, the line that was, I mean, there were so many people, a thousand people in line, some of them had to leave because it just took so long. This means this is a very important issue on both sides, or on all sides. Maybe it's not just two sides. This is a very important issue.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    And Madam Chair making sure that everybody was heard, that's our First Amendment right. This is their house, and they get to come here, and they get to share their opinion, and that is what we are here to listen. And our legislation should be in response to that. But differing opinions, without a doubt, are part of the process.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    And we need to have an approach that respects all of those opinions. When I have a question, I will address you, Mr. Kahn, if I may, because when I get on a roll, I just want to finish my thought.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I tell my young staff, I say, you know, if I lose my train of thought, that's much more difficult than if you lose your train of thought.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Please continue. I'm excited for your question.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    We have to look at the full context if we want to really understand the past so that we can make it historically accurate.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    But when we're dealing with specifically political issues that are happening right now, and it doesn't matter if, I mean, there are rabbis, as I've mentioned to some of my colleagues, who feel differently about some of the issues that are happening, some of what's happening internationally. Protection of our children has got to be our number one—absolutely our number one goal in all that we do.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Again, we can talk about anti-Semitism, phone calls that come in, also talk about Islamophobia. And are you addressing that, too? And why aren't you addressing that? And as a Legislator, I have to say, well, you know, that wasn't the Bill that's before us.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Right now, we're dealing with one thing, and as my colleague said, maybe that's one way to deal with it. I'm not sure the best way. I am—I want to go back to what I said earlier, that my biggest concern is that we are requiring teacher—teacher instruction—to be factually accurate and aligned with the adopted curriculum and standards in existing law.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I'm concerned about that phrase, "factually accurate," and I know that it was a phrase that was taken from one of the Teachers Association contract, but I'm still concerned about that. My first question I'd like to ask our CTA representatives, is that phrase, "factually accurate"—it came from a Teachers Association contract. Is it taken out of context?

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Is it accurate? Is it factually accurate? Is it accurate?

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Thank you for the question. Yeah, I think the phrase that you're referring to, and I'm quoting it, "Instruction shall be consistent with accepted standards of professional responsibility rather than advocacy, personal opinion, bias, or partisanship." And before I answer to this question about contracts, I just want to share, we have more than 1,100 local chapters across the state.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    And the fact that one local chapter, even a big one, has bargained language in their school community doesn't mean we should apply that language to every school community across the state. We don't know the context in which that language was bargained more than 15 years ago.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    And yes, yes, it comes from the UTLA contract, but I did let the leadership of the Jewish Caucus know that they should consult with free speech experts, like the ACLU, before placing that kind of language into legislation that's going to have a statewide implication.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    And since we have that kind of expertise here in the room, through the Chair, I would just ask if ACLU California, who's here, because it was kind of a direct ask, if they could just come express free speech opinions about that phrase and whether we should be putting it into law for everyone in the State of California.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I certainly appreciate the ACLU being here, Mr. Bramble, but unless a Member of the Committee has a specific question for them or a technical question from them, then you know, we won't be doing that. So, Senator Gomez Reyes?

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Well, before I, I go there, I would like to ask the authors, in selecting that language, did you look at other Teachers Association contracts? Was that just the biggest one? What was the thought process?

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Sure. And number one, I want to say thank you, Senator, for your thoughtfulness and just agree with your comments that we're here for kids like Lev who have shared his deep experience and hundreds of others, if not thousands, across the State of California that have had very similar experiences.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And I want to say thank you to you for your sensitivity to that. I also want to share that Assemblymember Zbur ran over to the Capitol to vote, so that's why he's left. He's not leaving us. He's taking care of the people of the great State of California.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    So, you know, this Bill has gone through a tremendous process, and it actually—we got here by starting at the beginning of last year's legislative session with the first bill that meant to address this issue.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And then we were asked, worked with teachers' unions, CTA, CFT, many teachers' unions and other organizations across the state that had real input and interest in this topic, as well as our colleagues in the State Legislature. We were asked if we would please change to do a standards bill on ethnic studies, and so, we did that.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And you're familiar with that process. Again, engaging with stakeholders and folks that are interested and passionate and affected by whatever we do in the State Legislature. And so, went through a very, very lengthy process around standards for ethnic studies, getting input from all over the state.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And then we're asked, as Senator Gonzales alluded to, to please move to anti-Semitism. And I want to say I, for one, I'm speaking for myself and many of my colleagues in the Jewish Caucus, I have been a proponent of ethnic studies, and I want to thank the Senator for her strong work in in ethnic studies.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    However, we were asked to change to antisemitism, and so, we then moved to antisemitism. And again, re-engaged with teachers' unions, with ACLU, with numerous groups, obviously the Jewish community, other groups, labor interests across the state, and through that process, got input from many, many different folks.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And when we put this language in, it was actually a replacement for different language that we had in the Bill. We had some language from the California School Boards Association originally around controversial topics, and that was model board policy that school districts across our state had used and have adopted.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    But there was a concern about putting that language into statute.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And so, we removed the controversial topics and came upon the language from UTLA and thought, you know, that would probably be a good substitute and amenable since UTLA is, in my understanding, the largest of the local teachers' unions of the thousand plus across the state, thought that would probably be amenable to CTA, especially knowing that some of UTLA crossover with CTA leadership. Understand the concerns that have been brought up and certainly, you know, as we have done over the last couple of years, always open to continue conversations.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And as I mentioned, when Senator Choi was asking this is the beginning of this process. If we have the honor of earning the votes of this Committee, certainly we're going to be continuing the conversation.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And then, you know, always here. I'm hoping my tenure in the Legislature is longer than this session and that we'll be able to continue that conversation as well.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    I know that there has been conversation about, as we commonly know, as cleanup legislation, where something in a Bill—questions have been brought up about a particular bill. I've had bills pass and then the next year helped put together cleanup legislation. Is this something that you are considering, you and Assemblymember Zbur?

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Yeah, I mean, it's a really important question. I think, again, always open to continuing the conversations. I think this is one piece. I know the Jewish community has some thinking, you know, about perhaps other pieces the Jewish community would like to see in the Bill.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    So, you know, I think it's worth continuing conversation to see what else we, you know, may need to do. I think Senator Choi brought up a very important point that this is just the beginning, that other communities may see a need.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    I think Senator Gonzalez brought up a very important point, that there's a companion Bill that brings in other coordinators and that this is the beginning, this is certainly not the end in terms of how we're going to address discrimination in California schools so that every child, not just Lev, not just Ella, who came and did a Me Too, but every single child from every community in California feels safe.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    And forgive me for pressing. But is this a commitment then, to working on legislation in the coming years and next year that addresses some of the issues that have been brought up regarding the final language, which, as was noted, was just received last night?

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Sure. I mean, I think it's important for us to continue to work together.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And like I say, this is very much the beginning of a conversation of first blush at a bill that has, you know, it's interesting, some are saying they see it for the first time because we've been working on it for two years, but it's absolutely the beginning and not the end.

  • Aubrey Rodriguez

    Person

    If I may, Senator, a comment on that cleanup.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    ACLU, where's the representative? If there is legislation that is brought in, that is worked on next year, is the ACLU prepared to work with the Jewish Caucus and others?

  • Aubrey Rodriguez

    Person

    We're more than prepared. We're eager to work with the Jewish Caucus and the authors. And I mean, we would prefer to work on this next year and address the Bill AB 715.

  • Aubrey Rodriguez

    Person

    But we understand that we have a short amount of time, but we would love to work with Assemblymember Addis and Zbur in the Jewish Caucus on this Bill.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Thank you.

  • Aubrey Rodriguez

    Person

    To address our concerns.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Thank you. I would ask the same thing of CTA, the willingness to work with the Jewish Caucus next year or when this is revisited, to address the very issues that have been brought up that have been discussed through members who have come to speak and also from the dais also.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    What I would say is this. You know, we care deeply about all students, including Jewish students. We care about their experiences and their success in our schools. We condemn anti-Semitism in all forms.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Certainly, we want to work together, but we think that there's a fundamental flaw in the foundation that this Bill is built on, because you have a coordinator who's going to oversee one type of discrimination, and you have other kids.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    We have an equal protection clause in the California Constitution and the Federal Constitution that says all kids, all people, should have equal levels of protection. So, if we establish protections for some kids and we don't establish those same protections for other kids, we have a fundamental flaw.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    That's why we were suggesting a more unified framework that would, for example, ensure that we're lifting up protections for everybody, which would necessarily apply to Jewish students. So, I think there's a foundational flaw. It's not like a tweak here and a tweak there. But we're open to dialogue.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    Again, we care deeply about all students, including Jewish students, and we want to see all kids thrive, support, and feel like they're safe and in an inclusive, supportive environment.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    The second fundamental flaw of the Bill, respectfully, is that although it does not define anti-Semitism, what it does do directly is allude to the place where that definition of anti-Semitism will be brought in from. The Bill mentions that it will use—sorry, give me one second.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It's intimidating to come in front of such prestigious lawmakers as yourself, and it's hard as a teacher, knowing who I'm speaking for when I come here, because last year, before I did my first one, my student said, when I was wondering about whether or not to go, they said, but, Mr. Gibb, if you don't speak for spaces where adults are discussing us, then who will?

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    And I'm here, and I'm trying to ground myself in that, because I've been passed over a couple times for this direct CTA response to something that I think should be an opposition response, because what we saw was a very diverse group of opposition speakers meeting.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I appreciate that, but we are also—there's a, there's a process to doing this, right? And so, when Senator Gomez Reyes, when she's asking a question to make sure, you know, she's getting her question answered, depending off of who we still need to get through the rest of the members of this Committee.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    So, it's not about, you know, who should or should not speak, but rather who the Member has a question for.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I'm just helping to facilitate that conversation, for the very same reason we make it very clear upon what people should say when they come up to speak, because we had over 500 people here today, many of whom actually left. So, it's—and I just want to emphasize that this is how we run every single Committee.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    So, I want to really make that clear, too, so it doesn't feel like that's a personal thing either.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Thank you. No, I hear that. And I will respond directly to the second fundamental flaw, which is this definition of anti-Semitism that is baked into the Bill subtly, is a definition through the Biden memo towards what's called the IHRA definition of antisemitism.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    And in this definition of antisemitism, it protects the State of Israel from certain types of speech, as if, in this case, it were a religion or an ethnicity. But in fact, the State of Israel is neither a religion or an ethnicity.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    And when we say, as Senator Reyes said, that we want to protect them all, when we refer to children, what we are not including in that is the protection of a nation state and critique of that nation state. So, we would be—the opposition would be.

  • Eloise Gómez Reyes

    Legislator

    Right now, we're just talking about a particular Bill, and I recognize there's so much more that's happening internationally, and I alluded to that earlier, but I think we have to recognize that what we want to do is protect the children.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    It's actually.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I'm sorry.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    And I will answer that.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay, we'll go ahead, and she did not have a question for you, and this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. I also want to be clear as somebody that worked on this language and I'll get into this in my comments.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The United States National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism is referenced as a point for the Antisemitism Prevention Coordinator to it says to inform on strategies to prevent and counter antisemitism. It does not have a definition. That was something that, that I was very, very clear and intent on working on pulling out.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I worked with Mr. Bramble directly on this. So, we'll go ahead. Senator Gomez Reyes, if you would like to wrap up your points.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Are there any other questions? I know Senator Cabaldon has a question, but he stepped out. Yes, Senator Cortese.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Yeah. I think Senator Cabaldon had to go back and vote in the Budget Committee. For those who are listening in from the public, that's. We got multiple committees going on, and people are trying to manage that. Fortunately for me, this is the only one I had tonight.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Just want to make some brief comments and explain what my vote will be this evening, like others have done. First of all, I want to acknowledge a young man who spoke.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And I didn't catch your name exactly because you're, you know, kind of facing away from me, but your testimony, much like other students I've Zoomed with and listened to, you know, recently and during the time that, that this Bill has been in draft form, I guess, is, it's compelling. It's frankly nauseating. You're in the righteous position, 100%.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    You need to know that. I think you do know that. I think probably people in support of you have made that clear. I think people here today have tried to make that clear. That's what needs to stop. What happened to you needs to stop.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I'm not clear that this Bill stops that from happening, you know, or has a half a chance of making that end. And we need a Bill that makes it end. But I'll get to that a little bit more.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    You know, I'm very, very committed, you know, to the cause of making sure that there's not bullying of any student, regardless of background or ancestry or creed or faith or whatever. I don't want to make this at all about me, and I won't. But when I grew up my, my generation.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    This was pretty common for Italian Americans and Sicilian Americans. So I want you to know I believe the folks who testify, not just you, and talk about at times on a daily basis, you know, being called out, you know, with slurs and tropes. And I. I've tried not to repeat those words during my life.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Not because they're particularly painful, because I think every time somebody repeats them, even somebody who was a victim of them, it. It just puts it out there one more time. But because we're in a really critical hearing today that's going to result in something that's going to potentially radically, radically change the law and radically disrupt public education.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I do want to share that a little bit. As a Sicilian American kid, I was called a wop on a daily basis in school. That means without papers, despite the fact that I was born in United States Army Hospital here in California. My father was born here in California. My grandfather was born overseas.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    That was common for Italian American kids. And there a whole series of slurs that are worse than that that I won't repeat today. But you could ask the AI or something and they'll tell you exactly what they were, what they still are probably, I don't know. So I've had a taste of that.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    So again, I want to make it very, very clear that even if my experience is only a fraction of what somebody else has experienced or is experiencing now, or what you experience, I know what you're talking about.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    That continued to the point where later in life I had a teacher and I had opportunity to talk to Senator Becker about this earlier, who's just been a tremendous colleague and. And I've felt very heard, very listened to and heard by my colleagues from the Jewish Caucus here in, in the Capitol, and particularly Senator Becker.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And we were talking about things like that, that happen and be.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I was in a classroom where the teacher thought there was nobody of any ethnic ancestry, that it was a white classroom, if you want to put it that way, or an American white classroom, I suppose, would be a way to put it, without any European ancestry of any sensitivity in it.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And when we were talking about oppression, people being put in concentration camps here in the United States of America, including the Japanese, another student who's not Italian American, raised his hand and said, why don't you include the Italians when you talk about folks who were incarcerated during World War II, supposedly for their own protection?

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And the teacher's answer was, while he laughed, while I sat in the back of the room without him knowing I was Italian American was because they liked it. Because they liked it. They liked being put in a place where they were safe and they received three meals of spaghetti a day, quote, unquote.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I had one final exam left in that class. I went to the dean and said, you need to deal with this just like a lot of Jewish students. And I think other students, including Muslim students, have gone to administrators and said, do something about this. And the response was, no, I'm not going to do that.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    You take it up with the teacher yourself if you want to take it up. Which of course, would have been the end of my. Whatever grade I was going to get in the class above an F. So, again, I understand little shards of what's going on here based on my own lived experience.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    I have two nephews who are Jewish. I presided multiple times as President of the Board of Supervisors in Santa Clara County over Holocaust Remembrance Day. I've heard the stories directly from folks, from the survivors as years have gone by, most of whom are no longer with us.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Of course, all of that comes into play in terms of my lived experience. But I also have a son who's a teacher, a son who's an administrator, and a wife who's a school board member and a teacher.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And when I think about what I saw today in terms of the extraordinary tension in this room, all I could think about was no wonder the administrators and the teachers who hardly ever, my colleagues will tell you, hardly ever come in to this Committee room on the same side of an issue, almost never.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And other representatives of public education are coming in saying, in effect, about this Bill, don't do this to us. Because what we're basically doing is taking that, everything you just heard in terms of tension and lack of consensus about how to deal with this.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And there I would defy anybody to tell me there was anything that resembled consensus in that public comment today. And we're shoving that down into our public education system with this Bill and saying, deal with it. That's why some people are saying the Bill might not be good for anybody on any side of the issue.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Again, my colleagues pursuing this Bill, including the authors, Senator Stern was at an iftar with me last year, gave the most moving speech during Ramadan that I've ever heard at an iftar by anybody. I know he's in. I know he's in.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    In good faith, you know, pursuing a remedy to this, to try to help people like this student, but we can't. My position is, and I'm going to stay off the Bill today, that this doesn't have to be perfect, but we can't throw the public education system into an untenable position.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    We have to correct this, but we've got to do it right, and we've got to do it much more quickly than the year and a half we've spent in this Committee room trying to figure this out.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    If this state is really serious about eliminating anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-undocumented American, anti whomever, then we gotta be a lot more aggressive.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And I'd say with anti-Semitism in this issue we ought to be doing is hiring facilitators and investing in a strategy where we actually do hear from the over 100 ethnic groups in this state who are in our public education system, who are going into stores, retail, banks and so forth, and being discriminated against, who are being chased down in the streets in some cases, who are being bullied and say what can.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    What do you need us to do to protect you and put that in a Bill? I don't think that's this Bill. And so I'm going to stay off the Bill. That means abstain today. I appreciate the progress that's been made. There has been progress made. It's come very late. It's come without a lot of transparency, unfortunately.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    It's the way things happen here in the capital sometimes. But the progress, as well-intentioned as it's been, has been a little bit like one step forward, one step back. So we've gone to really focusing on antisemitism instead of ethnic studies.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    But while doing so, every reference to Islamophobia was struck out of the old version of the Bill. Now, if you're on that side of the tension and you're telling people, geez, it feels like we're kind of being erased. That's what they were saying six months ago, those folks who were in opposition today.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And then all of a sudden they're looking at a Bill where they were literally erased. I don't think that was intentional. I don't think anyone here, none of my colleagues in my caucus are about erasing anybody or canceling anybody.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    But it doesn't look good to have a Bill that's so streamlined down that now it doesn't even take into account the climate that we're in that we're trying to resolve in the first place. Apologize. Madam Chair, you've done a terrific job. I hope you. Madam Chair is not here, but she'll, you'll tell her, look, Madam Chair.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Madam Vice Chair, I'll conclude my comments here. But again today, what I saw in the public testimony was one thing that was really, really good engagement in the democratic process at the level we want to see. And it was peaceful.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    Senator Stern, on the other side, people weren't able, in many cases, not a majority, but a significant number of people weren't able to even follow the basic instructions on either side of the issue of etiquette and protocol here in the chambers. That's how much tension there is about this issue.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    People couldn't just say, this is my name, this is my affiliation, and I'm opposed or I support. That's rare. My colleagues will tell you here. It is really rare. You from the public won't know this. It's really rare for people to keep breaking that rule over and over and over again.

  • Dave Cortese

    Legislator

    And it just makes me feel like if this Bill is causing that level of chaos, I really don't feel like I'm ready to push it down into the public education system yet. That's all I'm saying. Madam Vice Chair, I can conclude my comments there, but I'll be in abstention on the vote today. Thank you.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Thank you. Senator Cortese, do we have any other comments? I think we're. I think Senator Cabaldon had more remarks, but he's not here yet. We have some. We're wrapping up various committees and so they've gone to go vote. They'll be back here shortly. In the meantime, I'm just going to share some comments.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    I just want to echo the immense gratitude that we have that I have for all the Members that were able to come and speak. Whether you're in opposition or support of this Bill, that's incredibly important to be informed and to be an engaged part of this process. It is what empowers the people's voice.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    So thank you for being here. And yes, there was tension, you could feel the passion behind it.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    And I think more than ever, as electeds and leaders in our communities, it's so incredibly important that we respect the ability to express ourselves and really protect the First Amendment and our ability to share what we think, what we feel, always in the spirit of civility, respect of other people's opinion.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    We don't have to agree all the time. And that's very, very much the case in many cases. I'm often heard say in my district when I hold my town halls that I represent 1 million people. That's 1 million life experiences, 1 million worldviews. Are we going to agree 100%? Most likely not.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    But I think there are a lot more issues that we do come together and we agree on and learning how to facilitate a conversation and a dialogue about ideas rather than vilifying people. I think it's incredibly important to impart that model, that respect and that philosophy, that idea in our youth, in our students, in our communities.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Senator Cabaldon is back, so I'm going to defer back. And I know you had some comments that you wanted to share.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam Chair. And also let me apologize for being in and out and mostly out during the testimony. I think there's half of our Committee is Members of the Budget Committee as well. And so we've been just adjourned and she's not here as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But I also want to start by really thanking the Chair of this Committee for her, for her work on this. I know she.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    She struggled mightily, both personally with a lot of the issues and the provisions in the original Bill and then trying to put together a Bill that would, that could be passed and that would meet the needs of our students.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I really, really thank Senator Reyes for, for centering our conversation on Levin, on the, on students, the students that we're trying to protect here, because I, I also come from the world of education. And a lot of this debate that we've had this year on this topic has been not so focused on the student.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    It's been focused on our, on our collective, even if we're not on different sides, our collective need to express our rage about what's going on and to, and it's always the case in every generation and almost every issue, to demand then that the public schools in this exact moment in time be the vehicle by which we translate that for our children.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that is, is not the purpose of public schools. The public schools are not, they are not the 2:00 clock in the afternoon or the 9:00 clock in the morning version of CNN. They can't be. And they have a curriculum to instruct based on our state standards. But that's more than just the standards.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so I've struggled with this conversation over the last several months because it's been about so many things, but often not about the violence and the hate that students have been experiencing, but about much larger issues. And that's true for almost everybody that's been in this discussion.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And also because, you know, being both Filipino and gay and in the closet for most of my, my entire educational experience, bullying attacks, sort of taken for granted in the curriculum and on the playground, that my very existence was immoral, that I was going to hell. That wasn't just allowed. That was a sort of official government policy.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's what was taught. So that's led me to two places here.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    One is I'm deeply understanding of what this feels like for individual students and their families and then their younger siblings and everyone else, but also understanding that as this debate has happened over these last few months and hearing one of the authors of the Bill describe how hard it's been to be working on this for two years.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I'm older than two years. And we've been working and struggling with this for a long time in all of our communities.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And so I will just at the top line, I hope folks understand that part of the reaction that some of us have had has been to the notion that we have to go through all these laws and we, we gotta create new frameworks and new policies and new positions.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We need to take everything and upgrade it, because there's no way we could tackle anti-Semitism without all these things. And it may be true, but it also this gets maybe to the Chair of the Latino Caucus, our majority leader's comments as well.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Those are the protections and the structures and the institutions that have been protecting us for all these years. And I'm not angry about it, but it just feels weird to be told that all of that's completely and totally inadequate.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And we need all these, we need all these new things and not an acknowledgment that those have been built and that those institutions and protections have been what we have depended on in many, many, many, many, many communities in California.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So as we've talked about sort of exceptionalizing the approach in this Bill, this has been, this has been that's been one of the frames that I think has been a challenge. And I do have some very serious concerns about the structure of the Bill.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But I want to say first that this is a far superior Bill to what we were grappling with before, which had its challenges.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I also recognize that both that version and this come from a real place of concern about the relationship between what happens on the playground, in the schoolyard, in classrooms, and what we are teaching and how we are teaching, how we're implementing things like ethnic studies.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I won't I don't want to get too much into this issue, but I've worked on ethnic studies since the 80s, I think, yeah, since the 80s at the first institution in California to have ethnic studies.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But we didn't get the job done, not just in implementation and funding, but even in the definition of what it was and what the curriculum was. And I was excited about it. I wasn't obviously a Member of the Senate at the time, but so that our stories could be told.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But I, but I have always believed that was our stories. It was the stories of us in this country, in this state and the wide swath of communities. And so I think I've listened to a lot of the debates about ethnic studies in the last year or two, and they've all they've been about everything but that.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And it hasn't been about our stories getting told. And it partly is about this notion that the news has to drive what the curriculum of the day is.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And if there's not news about the Filipino-American experience or the Hmong experience or women in science in California, if there's not a big news story about it, then we forget to teach and we can't. That's the point of the standards and the curriculum, and that's next phase requirements to make sure that we're all, all seen.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But let me go through a couple of the areas of the Bill that I think remained for me to be significantly problematic and I think to some extent derive from this notion. First and foremost is the issue that everyone else has also raised, which is the teacher instruction shall be factually accurate.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And rather than advocacy, personal opinion, bias or partisanship.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I'm an educator myself, and I understand why this is here and where in many districts, curriculum and particularly teaching has gone off the rails and, you know, with contracted services and other things that don't match what our curriculum is.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And they don't match good pedagogy in the sense of whether the purpose of public schools are to transmit the curriculum, transmit our common culture, and also make sure kids learn the basics of history and math and English and everything else that that is. That is the purpose. And there have been. I think there are plenty of examples in my district and elsewhere where that has, as I say, gone off the rails.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And folks are seeing this, you know, schools as an opportunity for them to make sure kids, every kid, must know about this current event or about this perspective about this issue because it's important to me or because it is, you know, globally significant. That's so I get where this language is motivated from and support that.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I think we, California needs a very, we need a very serious conversation about how to accomplish that goal of making sure that we're not contracting out education.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's purely or mainly or substantially personal opinion, bias, advocacy and partisanship. At the same time, you know, if I am teaching, if I teach US Government and I ask the students to watch Hamilton to spark their interest, to get them excited about the topic, to relate it through music or what have you.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I'm doing that knowing that Hamilton the Musical is not factually accurate in certain ways. It's factually accurate in most of the important ways that will then lead to the discussions and the conversations that will follow, as we might deconstruct how it diverged from particular other accounts of what our history are.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But I need the tool in order to engage the student. If, as I often have used counterfactuals and scenarios and games and simulations where students imagine themselves in a different context.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I teach a class where students imagine themselves to be state Senators and they sit at committees like this, and they are absolutely allowed to venture into and produce factually inaccurate materials, even more factually inaccurate than we sometimes do. They're allowed to do that.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that journey of being exposed to factual inaccuracy and then grappling with it and navigating it and confronting it is absolutely essential. But also the act of imagination, the act of imagining is almost by definition not factually accurate. And the act of learning requires imagination.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So I think this term is highly problematic, or at least this term in this context, that instruction shall be that in a significant way. So I think this is a substantial improvement over the language that the Chair helped to facilitate the changes, too. But I do think for me, it would be really important.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And Senator Reyes, you know, raised this question with Assemblymember Addis. Are we committed to really diving into this next year? And for me, it will be more important than, you know, there's always chances for us to work together and we should keep collaborating.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    We need to know that this is, that if this Bill were to pass, that we were going to take seriously the absolute need and an agreement that we have that we are going to, we're going to evolve this language into something that makes sense from an educational perspective, understanding where it's coming from.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I agree with the motivation, but the execution here has pretty substantial implications, not even about all the political issues, but just about the act of teaching and learning itself. So that to me is fundamental. Also fundamental.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I know the bill's been amended part way to grapple with some of these issues as well is the, you know, I sit on this Committee. So we spent all of our time with the, with the K12 governance structures and what have you, and this stuff matters.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So the original, original version of this Bill, I think we saw, had the assignment of this into the State Board of Education, which doesn't do programs or oversight. It doesn't interact with districts. It's the Department of Education that does that. And you might think that that. Okay, that's just an organizational piece. It's not right.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    The people who have the already have the mailing list of all the school districts that's in the Department of Education, the people who have experience doing program management and oversight and accountability and appeals, that's in the Department of Education.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So it was important that not be in the State Board of Education, whose only job is to make policy, not implement programs, not work with school districts.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I know during the conversations about that, at least, my understanding was that the proponents that said, yeah, but we, we need to make sure that it's seen as important and it'll be a higher profile if it's in the State Board of Education.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I get that, that gets partly to my earlier point that it, you know, it was also high profile and important when we were trying to protect, you know, Trans kids and Latinas and everybody else. So that's not new that we need to, we needed to have that protection.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But we can't just make our education governance and program delivery, you know, match each of our momentary, you know, pieces of legislation there. It has to have a structure to it. So, and the Constitution assigns those responsibilities to the Superintendent of Public Instruction. So I remain very uncomfortable structurally.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    Now it's better, it's not in the State Board of Education, but now it's actually in a whole different agency in the government Operations agency. I chair the budget Subcommitee that oversees that, that agency, and it really should be retitled the Government Operations and Education Committee because there are quite a few of these kinds of functions there.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But it is now, it will now be in an agency that has no interface with school districts whatsoever. And I get folks have concerns, some folks and the sponsors and others have concerns about the Department of Education and its staff and its politics and all of that. I get it. But that's, that's the structure of our government.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That's where this belongs really. And so I think that that is an area, you know, I want to continue to come back to. Because we need. We already have education spread among too many agencies, now too many, like big agencies, and we've been trying to go in the opposite direction. And this spreads this even further. Similarly.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    I know this is an Assembly Bill, I'm a Senator. The use of Senate confirmation at a program managerial level is close to unprecedented and wholly inappropriate. The purpose of Senate confirmation isn't for us to keep an eye on you to make sure that you're doing a good job or that you're not biased.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    If that were our purpose, we would be confirming tens of thousands of people in state government. We typically will confirm a secretary, a Department Director, maybe a deputy secretary. That's it. We don't reach in and start to, you know, we don't reach in and confirm every single program level staffer in a Department.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And that's what we're doing here. And I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer for why we would do that from a constitutional design perspective of why we do Senate confirmation in the first place.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    All I've heard is, you know, we need to make, you know, we need to make sure that they're doing what we want them to do. Well, that is what the budget process is for. That is what the, the, the our legislative, our normal legislative process is for.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But we cannot, we cannot assure that state agencies do the job that they're supposed to do by confirming every single, not just Executive Director, or in this case, the Secretary, the Deputy Secretary, the Assistant Secretary, the Director of Office, Civil Rights and the Anti-Semitism Coordinator.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That is, that's crazy from, from a, from a separation of powers and constitutional time perspective. So this, this remains to me problematic, but it feels like it flows from this notion that we need to be doing something exceptional over, over the, over the norm here.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And then I guess lastly, the last kind of challenge I have with the Bill and its contents, and it's similar, which is in the, in the annual notifications that we, that we send parents and guardians, which are, that, that are, that are intended to be academic.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    That is, here's the, you know, here's the A to G curriculum, here's how you sign up for Advanced Placement, here's what the graduation requirements are, and here's what the CTE courses are. So we're going to add that specifically. We have done this with absolutely nothing else. We're going to specifically notify them about this Bill.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    No, no, not AB 84, nothing else. Just this Bill. Also, from my experience as an educator, state laws and academic senates keep telling, keep telling us to put more and more in our syllabus. You know what happens. Like now you need to put this provision there, now add this version.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    No student ever reads a syllabus anymore because it's so overloaded with all the mandated stuff that we think we're going to help them out with. And that's what we're doing here. We need students to, when they get an academic notification, they need to see the CTE courses, the A to G requirements, the graduation requirements.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    When they get a different notification about what, you know, what school nutrition is, that, that's a different thing. But trying to put, put this one Bill into the academic set of notifications to me feels like either this is going to get lost or it's going to end up like my syllabus and not getting read at all.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    So those are the kind of, the structural problems. I actually feel pretty good because I had a lot more structural objections to the last one. But I do think all of these issues need continued working. We haven't had the chance to do this because of the timing, notwithstanding the tremendous efforts of our Chair in this work.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    And I know the caucus and the diversity caucuses as well. So I guess I'm looking forward to hearing in the close what the level of common commitment that we have is to really addressing some of these issues with factually accurate being the most important one of those before I know how I'm going to vote on it.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But that's going to be very important to me to know that this is not the end as has been said by everybody, but also that it's not the beginning of a kind of a typical sorry, typical education conversation that will go on for 50 years and end up with a statement of principles or something that we're really going to do something in 2026 to make more perfect a Bill that is absolutely important for students like Lev and others.

  • Christopher Cabaldon

    Legislator

    But we also have to while we're, while we're passing these protections, we also have to make sure that we are getting closer and closer to a more perfect solution. Thanks, Madam Chair.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    Madam Chair, I need to set the record straight.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Senator Cabaldon, do you have a question at all for.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay, I'll, I'll get back to that in just a second, Mr. Bramble, but let me go ahead and see if there's any other Committee Members that have questions or comments. Yes, Senator Ochoa Bogh.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Thank you, Madam, Madam Chair. I'm just going to finalize my, my comments with first of all, feel so blessed to have amazing Committee Members in Senate Ed. Sorry, it's been an emotional day today. A couple of comments, really quick. Thank you for being here and sharing your story.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    I think I want to echo the comments that Senator Reyes mentioned, as far as making the issue at hand that we're trying to address in this Bill very real. And that's your life experiences, which are incredibly important.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    I've been privy for the past couple of years to be part of conversations within Jewish communities in which our students have expressed a lot of heartache about their experiences in school and experiencing anti-Semitism, which is why this Bill is coming before us today and how we're going to address it, which is not very easy to address.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Adults don't have all of the answers. Sometimes we muddle things even worse than actually fixing it, sometimes, because of different weaknesses that humans have. But in that course of conversations, I do understand that there's a need to address what is going on in our schools and why our kids are feeling very unsafe.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    So, with that, I want to commend the author for bringing this measure and trying to work towards a solution.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    I want to commend our Chair, which I had a conversation with her yesterday and today about the process and the meetings and the stakeholders, which I hope, not at this time, but in your closings, it would be helpful if the community members, if the public could understand who the stakeholders were and what committees were being held or commissions or groups that were having these discussions that came up with the final language of this Bill.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    I so appreciate Senator Cabaldon's insight into the process and the history of education. I have the highest respect for Senator Cabaldon and what he shares in this Committee. I feel I'm in a college classroom when I sit here and I listen to his comments because he brings so much insight into, into this process, and so, so grateful.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Even though we're different political parties, I have the highest respect in his comments, and I have a lot of respect for our Chair who has been working diligently in trying to ensure that we have something that is workable with all the stakeholders.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    So, I just want to publicly acknowledge that as the Vice Chair and as a Republican in this Committee, that I respect my colleagues here and the work that they're doing and the insights that they bring into this very delicate discussion.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Having said that, I also want to comment on the fact that, you know, we live in an amazing country and it brings challenges because we have people from all over the world coming here with their life experiences, their worldviews, and trying to accommodate an educational system where we can respect the histories, the perspectives, the angles that people are coming in.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    It's not as easy. It's a philosophy that we have, it's an ideal that we have, but in the reality, it becomes more challenging when it goes through the real life and learning how to be civil and respectful within that is incredibly, in some cases, difficult.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    But we have to strive to do that because we are the United States of America with a variety of people who makes us all who we are, united.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    I do want to also acknowledge the folks that were here that felt compelled to wear masks and the concern that I have with folks wearing masks, on not the fact that you're wearing the mask, but the reasoning behind wearing a mask as we're coming in and being that we are America, wishing be able to express ourselves, be who we are without fear.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Without fear. And I just want to encourage all of us to have and uphold ourselves, the highest level of civility and respect for our differences. We don't have to always agree. We can come to consensus. But it concerns me.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    It concerns me that we don't have the liberties to speak our truth and speak freely and be who we are freely, without judgment. So, I just wanted to share that because it takes away. It takes away from who you are and what you're trying to say. Makes it feel like you're hiding and you shouldn't hide.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    You should be able to be free to express yourself. And in my presence and in my teams and I know many of my colleagues, you should be, and you will be respected for your opinions and for who you are.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Having said that, I will be supporting the Bill today and I will be supporting it for the following reasons. It has changed a lot since the beginning. The first Bill that we saw, I know based on the conversations with our Chair that it's a continued work in progress. You folks ran out of time.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    Now, I've often said if I were carrying a Bill in this manner, as a Republican, it would have been killed or made it into a two or three or four year version. But I know the commitment that our Chair has. I know the commitment of the authors. I am just going to encourage that these conversations continue.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    And I know that they will. I know that they will. And I look forward to seeing a refinement of the concerns that are being addressed here publicly.

  • Rosilicie Ochoa Bogh

    Legislator

    But I do hope that we continue to work towards a more perfect outcome in legislation that will meet the concerns of folks and that don't limit the ability to share our ideas, our perspectives, our worldviews, in a respectful and civil manner. So, with that, I will be supporting the Bill today.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, Senator Ochoa Bogh. I think we had all Members speak. I know I stepped away for a second. Mr. Bramble, you wanted to make some comments, so I wanted to go ahead and give you a quick moment.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    It's a tough conversation, but I think that words are important. I know that in the space of controlling the room, what I heard you say was that you worked with me and with CTA on the inclusion of the strategy document from—I heard it really clearly. I just need to say it really clearly.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Okay. Yeah. And if I, if I said that, then I should have reversed what I said, but please continue.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    And so, this is, you know, this document is, is placed in this language worse than the last version I saw. Like when you're saying prevent antisemitism in a document that's so wide reaching, that talks about housing discrimination and now are schools supposed to solve housing discrimination? I think that's still valid what my brother over here said about conflating anti-Semitism with criticisms of Israel.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    But thirdly, I would just say I've never seen a Bill that references a white paper that's from 2023. If it's enacted next year, it would be a three year old document, the year after that, it would be a four year old document.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    And to make the statement that it doesn't have definitions of anti-Semitism in it is also inaccurate. It has several definitions of anti-Semitism. But what I want to just state very clearly is that in no way did we work with you to try and put that language in here.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    And we have huge objections to that document being in this language.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Yes, and I appreciate that, Mr. Bramble. And so, let me go ahead and correct my comments because I probably stated that in an incorrect order. The speaker had brought up concerns that there was a definition of antisemitism that was included in AB 715.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Previously there was. This was a major concern, I know, for your organization, CTA, and the fact that it equated anti-Semitism with criticisms of Israel. This was a major, major issue that was brought up and that was removed and that language was removed and that we did work directly on that. So, that is what I meant.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I don't know if I may have reversed the way that I made that statement, but that was pulled out of here.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And so, I want to make that very clear because I think there's probably several folks in the room that saw previous language that are here with those concerns specifically about that, and that is no longer in the Bill. Is that a correct acknowledgement?

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And yes, we have flagged that that particular component is concern for CTA, this particular component around the national strategy to counter antisemitism.

  • Seth Bramble

    Person

    I really appreciate the clarification. I just wanted to make it clear where CTA stands on this.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I appreciate it. After going through 500 folks doing public comment, might have gotten a little mixed up there.

  • Unidentified Speaker

    Person

    I just want to clarify. You said that you took it out, but it's still here.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I don't have a question for you at this time. So, I'm going to go ahead and speak now to the overall contents of the Bill. So, no, I'm sorry. This is, this is, this is exactly the reason why we want to try to avoid this kind of back and forth so that we can go through this process appropriately.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    First of all, I want to go ahead and thank the Committee Members for being here. I want to thank everybody that showed up to speak. We had over 500 people participate in today's meetings, many of whom I know traveled very far. And that includes Lev, who came here today to share your personal story.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I want to just thank and acknowledge you because I recognize, as a student and as a young person, it is probably very challenging and intimidating to be in this space while the adults are arguing. I apologize.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But I really do think that it's important, as some of the other Committee Members have mentioned, to really kind of center your story and experience in this conversation, because that's what's most important at the end of the day.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I think everybody here in this room shares that priority and making sure that we're providing not just the best education for our kids, but that you feel seen and valued and safe when you're at school. That's really, really important. A couple of things that I want to note because I do think it's critical.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I recognize that the language for this Bill came out incredibly late, and for that I have many, many frustrations. I want to highlight, unfortunately, as I'm discovering, this is my first year starting here in the Senate, that is not uncommon here in the California Legislature.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    If you saw me run out for a second, that's because there were other Committee Members going on to discuss other very last minute items and whether that is the cap and trade or utility affordability or the budget, I really wish that we would have gotten to a number of these things much sooner.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I have expressed that repeatedly to many folks, my colleagues, leadership. And so, I just want to acknowledge that and the frustration that I have with that, as well as to the partners that have worked with us on this and on the amendments around this legislation.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    It makes me very frustrated that we are in the last week of the legislative cycle. And I think it's important that I acknowledge that because I understand that that with a such a big issue, it might feel as if that was almost done intentionally, and I want to let you know it was not.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And unfortunately, this is common practice, as I'm discovering for a number of other issues that we're working on here in the Legislature. So, just want to make note of that.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I also just want to thank, you know, Assembly Member Zbur and Addis, the entire Jewish Caucus, you know, have been working with us over the past two months.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I want to thank the Education Coalition, CTA, you know, who's here today, so many of our other ED partners who have spoken and, you know, really offered, you know, their insight, their participation, as we've continued to hold these working groups.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Senator Ochoa Bogh asked a little bit earlier about the process that we went through in order to gather feedback on this Bill, and I want to acknowledge when this Bill first came to us, it did need a lot of work.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And that's part of the reason why this Committee was delayed so that we could go through this process of gathering feedback from stakeholders.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And so, our education consultants met with several folks, that includes education unions, that included parents and students, that included many of the diversity caucuses and their staffs, that included many folks from the Jewish community, and really gathered their feedback on the spill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And we had many, many, many debates and many tears that have been shared, as Senator Gonzalez mentioned, around, you know, how we go about creating this legislation.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    It is incredibly, incredibly, you know, challenging to talk about, you know, this issue in this moment because I recognize, unfortunately, as we discuss these issues around antisemitism, that much of it has become conflicted with, you know, what is happening right now in Gaza. And I want to recognize that.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I think, you know, many of you recognize that. That's why so many of you that have reached out to our office have expressed concern with equating criticisms of Israel with antisemitism, and that was why it was such a big priority for us to make sure that that was taken out of the Bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I know many of our education unions have raised that as well. Before I came here to the State Senate, I was mayor of the City of Alhambra. And while I was mayor of the City of Alhambra, we passed a ceasefire resolution.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I made a statement several months ago calling out what was happening in Gaza, the starvation that we've seen, and calling out the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    After that happened, there were many people that reached out that said that I had no right to be able to negotiate this Bill because of the opinions that I had, because I had passed a ceasefire resolution previously.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I share that so that other folks in this room can understand that we can have a diversity of opinions on this issue. I want to make sure that we're resolving anti-Semitism in our schools. That is a real problem. That is a real issue.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I also recognize that what is happening in Gaza is criminal, and it would be absolutely ridiculous if I did not acknowledge that. And I want to share that with you all, because that is my truth, and it would be irresponsible for me to not acknowledge those things.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Now, in working on this Bill, there were a number of major amendments that we had the authors take, and we did not agree on a number of things as well. And I recognize that there's still much work to be done.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But I want to go over a number of the Bill amendments that were made that I think are really significant and also the direction that this Bill is moving. So, the Bill does not directly define antisemitism, and it no longer defines or includes provisions specific to an anti-Semitic learning environment.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This was a big priority to make sure that we were addressing. The Bill no longer prescribes requirements for the adoption of instructional materials regarding Jews, Israel, or the Israel Palestine conflict.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This Bill continues to establish an anti-Semitism prevention coordinator, but that position now will be under the Administration of a new Office of Civil Rights, which is also established by the Bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Now, what's also important and you don't see reflected here, and I wish it was reflected here, but there is separate legislation that is moving, and that is SB 48, which is authored by Senator Gonzalez, which establishes additional discrimination prevention coordinators to address religious, racial, gender, and LGBTQ discrimination.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Now, there's talks about what other coordinators can be established, but we still haven't flushed a lot of that out.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Those are amendments that are going to be made come early next year, but SB 48 is going to be moving forward in the process because we know if we're going to have an Office of Civil Rights, it needs to work on all of the discrimination that our students face in schools and whether that's anti-Semitism, whether that's anti-Black racism, whether that's a discrimination that trans kids face, that our students do deserve to have support.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And right now, unfortunately, as a result of this Federal Administration, we have seen a dramatic rise in discrimination that is happening in the classroom. That is a very real thing. And the numbers have dramatically increased, particularly for Black students, for Jewish students, for trans students.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And that's not just a concern that we have, but that is a stated fact. The role of the Office of Civil Rights and the coordinators is more focused on providing technical assistance to schools to identify, prevent, and address antisemitism and other forms of discrimination and bias.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The Bill does not require the elevation of complaints of certain types of discrimination or create a new complaint process. There were concerns about that, about creating a new complaint process when we know that the UCP process is already backlogged with complaints. This is not creating a new complaint process.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Rather, districts would be better trained on how to navigate the UCP process so that we can ensure that these complaints are getting addressed when we do have situations where discrimination is happening on campus. The Office of Civil Rights and Anti-Semitism Prevention Coordinator established by this Bill would not function for the intake or investigation of complaints.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This office will not be doing investigations. The existing Uniform Complaint Procedures remains as the formal complaint process. There is no change in state law. So, I think a number of those things are important to bring up because they are changes in this Bill that I think address many of the concerns that were raised.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Now, I want to note that the outstanding concerns with this bill's provisions, relative to instruction being factually accurate and consistent with the accepted standards of professional responsibility, still exist. The existing law references "factually accurate" only in regards to the review and adoption of instructional material, but is not applied to supplemental instructional materials or to instruction.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    This bill's provisions relative to standards of professional responsibility derive from portions of an employment contract between a specific school district and its teachers. Standards of professional responsibility are not defined in existing law requirements or publications issued by the Commission of Teacher Credentialing or this Bill.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Further, taking language that was carefully negotiated at the local level and codifying it in state law without the local nuanced risk, confusion, and uncertainty in implementation.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I know that this has been brought up already by several of my other colleagues, Senator Gomez Reyes, Senator Gonzalez, as well as Senator Cabaldon, and it may have been brought up by the others, but it may not have been here to hear it.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    But, you know, just want to reiterate, you know, that we, we do need to have a commitment from you to work on these pieces. I recognize that we were having discussions about this as recently as this past weekend to try to figure out some of that language, you know, along with the folks over at CTA.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I recognize that cleanup language is going to be needed in some of these spaces, as well as, you know, as we go through and we figure out how this Bill is going to operate. I think Senator Cabaldon also raised a couple of other constitutional points that are very relevant as well.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And so, you know, just want to turn it over to you Assembly Members to just speak to that and your commitment to working with the different stakeholders to make sure that we're addressing some of those points and the concerns that are raised by this Committee.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    So, first of all, before I answer that question, I just want to thank Lev and Rabbi Menchin and also want to thank folks at CTA and all of the folks that have been here.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    You know, it is really a very difficult thing for me and Assemblymember Addis and I think every Member of the Jewish Caucus to sort of be at odds with someone who has always been such a strong partner of our Caucus and all the communities that we're all a part of. And so, I just want to thank you.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I've always said that being an educator is one of the highest callings out there. And so, I just want you to know that we are fully, fully committed. And I want to sort of come back to you, Chair, and every one of you.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    We are absolutely committed to continuing to work on this issue of factual accuracy, as Assemblymember Addis said. You know, we took this because it came out of one of the contracts of a local with a major school district and thought that that would be something that would be acceptable.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And we had so little time to sort of engage on that. We did insist, obviously, that there be something that has some teeth to give parents an ability to sort of point to things when there's inappropriate things in the classroom. So, that's all to say we understand the issues. I think you've articulated them very well, Assemblymember Senator Cabaldon.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    You know, this replaced longer provisions related to how you deal with controversial topics that came out of CDE guidance, which originally, we put in the Bill because some of the education union suggested that we look to that as one of the ways in which we address these issues.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And of course, you know, there's a difference between guidance and there's and what we put in statute, and we recognize that. And I think with the, with the, with the march of time, we wanted to make sure that there was something that was—that allowed people to point to something in the document to sort of address the problematic things that are happening in classrooms.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    But we're absolutely committed to working with the Education Committee, with you, and with CTA and CFT and the other education partners to address the issues that you've raised, in addition to some of the others that have been raised here. With that, I'll just say, you know, we made a lot of changes in this document.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I think those are ones that members of the—many members of the Jewish community sort of looked at and I think have understood how hard this has been for everyone.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And I just want to, you know, express again, my appreciation to the Chair, to the education staff, to the Pro Tem, to our respective staffs, to the Jewish Caucus staff, and to all of the stakeholders who have been part of this process. I know it has been arduous.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    It's the hardest bill I've ever worked on in my career here, in my short career here, but it's an important one. And the reason why I think we all are spending so much time on this is because we know that our schools have to be safe and supportive and affirming for every kid.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    For, for every student, for—you've heard the story of Lev. We also had Ella here, who was another, who was in the line with the shorter comments, who had a very similar story, who had to leave school. But for these two stories, there are literally scores and scores of these stories of these kids facing really horrendous conditions in the schools.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And so, I think I would ask you all, and I think you all are looking, you know, focusing on the fact that our highest, our highest goal and objective is really to protect these kids.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And I'm really proud that this Bill not only is focused on protecting Jewish kids, but with the creation of the Office of Civil Rights and the other coordinators that will come out of Senator Gonzalez's and Senator Weber's bills, we're going to be actually increasing the protections for all kids that are protected under Section 220 of this, of this—of the Education Code. That is a really very important thing that you're doing here today.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I, you know, we will be one of the few states that actually has a civil rights office to really look at discrimination across the board, not only for Jewish kids, but for kids of—for Muslim kids—for kids that come from—that are black kids, Latino kids, LGBTQ kids. We focus—we'll focus on discrimination based on gender.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    And that is something that is really a very important part of this Bill. I think you are actually—this Committee and this body will make history doing that. And I just want to raise that up.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    This came out of really the engagement of this Committee with the stakeholders, and I think, you know, CTA raising this issue about making sure that we were protecting all kids. So, with that, I just want to thank you all.

  • Rick Chavez Zbur

    Legislator

    I respectfully ask your aye vote and I want to turn it over to my co-chair—to my coauthor—Assemblymember Addis.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Well, first I'll align myself with what Assemblymember Zbur said in terms of our commitment to come back to this, to get the language right, to keep going on the pieces that numerous of you have raised concerns about and said that you've wanted to work next year, and so, just want to reflect that.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And I want to say thank you to Mr. Kahn and Mr. Bramble and to the rabbi and to Lev for being here. As before we were getting started, Mr. Kahn and I were talking and realized that at least my first teaching job was miles down the street from his first teaching job.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And it was so interesting that so many teachers are here, so much passion for education and for really love of the students of California. That's really why we're all in this room.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And also, what stands out to me as I've as you've shared the last four hours of your life with us, is that every single one of you on the dais has your own story around something that has happened either to you or to a child in your community that we need to fix in the State of California.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And so, I said earlier in our testimony that this is the beginning, at least coming from the Jewish Caucus, this is our beginning with our number one singular priority Bill this year, but certainly not the end, and authentically, Senator Cabaldon, I know exactly what you're talking about, having spent 21 years in the education system and now in the Legislature and government can move too slow and have too much talking at times.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    And so, I want to do that authentically with all of you and with that, we'll respectfully ask for your aye vote and say thank you for spending so much time with us this evening.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you, and I appreciate you all sharing that. I do just want to go back very quickly through and just if you could just acknowledge to just your commitment to make sure that we're working on these issues. I know that just our Committee Members have emphasized that they just want to make sure you know, clean up language.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I don't know what that will be right now. I know that'll be further discussion. So, we'd just love to hear that.

  • Dawn Addis

    Legislator

    Absolutely. You have our commitment. Absolutely.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    Thank you. Thank you both. You know, appreciate the amount of work that has been put into this and the amount of continued work that will go into this as well. It certainly means a lot.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I, I also just want to say something, you know, before we wrap up this discussion, because I think it would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge it.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    I, you know, we are in a time right now where things are so divisive, and I think that is part of what is driving so much of the discrimination we're seeing across the board towards all students of all backgrounds. And it has been an incredibly tough time, not just for students, but I think for everyone.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And, you know, I just, just want to also acknowledge there were some very unfair and targeted attacks, particularly towards our education organizations and our education unions. And, you know, I have appreciated that CTA and others, I think, have stepped up and tried to work in partnership.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And I've also, unfortunately, have seen very targeted attacks towards members of the Jewish Caucus, you know, including some that are in this room today, that have said things that are just, frankly, bizarre and completely untrue. It's—and it is anti-Semitic in so many ways.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And it has just been really alarming, I think, to see all of that. We are in a moment where we really have to come together, and that is so important. I think everybody in this room realizes that. And we're in a really, really scary time.

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    And if we want to do right by our kids and kids like Lev, like, we're really going to have to deliver on that. So, and I just, I want to recognize that. Alrighty, let's go ahead. Do we have a motion?

  • Committee Secretary

    Person

    [Roll Call]

  • Sasha Perez

    Legislator

    The Bill is out. 6-0. And this Committee is adjourned. Thank you.

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Bill AB 715

Educational equity: discrimination: antisemitism prevention.

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Committee Action:Passed

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